Was This The Most Dangerous Airliner Ever?
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In the late 1940’s and early 1950’s the Soviet Union was in critical need of newer, more modern civil airliners. Existing aircraft like the Lisunov Li-2 (a license-build derivative of the Douglas DC-3) and Ilyushin Il-12 were small, slow, and outdated when compared to their western counterparts. Travelling across the vast expanses of the Soviet Union was measured in days due multiple refueling stops, and often unpredictable weather.
By 1953 plans were underway to solve the Soviet Union's airliner shortfall, but one pioneering aircraft designer named Andrei Tupolev was committed to propelling Soviet civil aviation well into the future. By 1953, the British de Havilland Comet was beginning to prove itself in passenger service. It flew nearly twice as fast as the latest generation of piston powered airliners, and much higher. With its speed and ability to fly above most weather, the Comet was proving to be much more convenient and comfortable. Tupolev was convinced that jet power was exactly what the Soviet Union needed, but Soviet leadership was skeptical. Jet engines were relatively new and unproven. There were lingering questions about long-term reliability, fuel consumption, and whether the resources needed to retrain Soviet pilots could be justified. More modern piston airliners seemed to be a more sensible path forward.
Realizing that Soviet leadership would be unwilling to commit significant time and resources required to develop a jet airliner like the de Havilland Comet, Tupolev proposed an alternative approach. Having just finished designing the jet-powered Tu-16 heavy bomber, Tupolev proposed converting the aircraft into an airliner. Doing so would save significant engineering time, allowing for the airliner to be introduced within just 3 years. It would also be far less expensive, as factories were already configured to manufacture Tu-16 components that could be reused on the airliner, like engines, wings, landing gear and avionics. The approach would allow the new jetliner to enter service in 1956 - years ahead of the Americans. It was an irresistible proposition, but like the British, the Soviets would pay a heavy price for being the first to introduce jet travel.
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The pilot reporting all the details before the crash is a hero.
@Zebred2001
Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! Max respect to that guy!
@vangard9725
Жыл бұрын
He is the superior pilot westoid pilots could never be as good as him
@henryatkinson1479
Жыл бұрын
Truly a testament to the dedication, expertise, and skill of Soviet pilots.
@flakmag1004
Жыл бұрын
@@vangard9725 lol what a dumb vatnik
@Primarch359
Жыл бұрын
My other favorite crash heroism from the soviet union is the water landing on the neva.
The Soviet Union's motto could just be: "Safety is secondary, superiority is priority"
@1234j
Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Though 'apparent superiority (don't read fact-based reports) is priority' is closer to the truth, sigh.
@Quattordici
Жыл бұрын
Da, comrade
@jhfdhgvnbjm75
Жыл бұрын
Or 'why worry about something thats never going to happen...'
@extremegrieferbible
Жыл бұрын
Might aswell be McDonnell Douglas' motto.
@austinhan6998
Жыл бұрын
@@extremegrieferbible and now Boeing
Like many early jets, like the B-47 and B-58, the pilots would often take the handbook landing speed, and add 5 knots for the wife and 3 for each child.
@brianmaitai7685
Ай бұрын
Wow!...you learn something new everyday. On the TUPOLEV TU 22 Blinder A Bomber, Iraqi Airforce pilots would augment the autopilot by tying the fighter type control column with bungee cords!
The 707, briefly mentioned here, was the real advance in jetliners. It was the first aircraft to have flexible wings, which avoided the need for massive reinforcements at the junction of wing and fuselage.
@HorrorFuse
9 ай бұрын
Agreed it did have some flaws but it was a safe aircraft with advanced technology at the time
@ironcito1101
7 ай бұрын
The 707 is basically a modern aircraft. All changes since then have been refinements, such as more efficient and quieter engines, more modern avionics, and so on, but the overall design is mostly the same. Losing the flight engineer was perhaps the most notable change since then.
@WilhelmKarsten
7 ай бұрын
The 707 series is still flying and is expected to remain flying until 2040
@supa3ek
5 ай бұрын
Typical americunts. Think you created everything !!!
@halweilbrenner9926
5 ай бұрын
707 was a terrific plane.
Mustard is back again with another quality content. Always worth the wait.
@Lodestar.
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@usa5893
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@maxstonecro1
Жыл бұрын
True!
@n908qd7
Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is
@firedeamon6118
Жыл бұрын
YAY MUSTARD IS BACK
''The TU-104 is the best aircraft in the world. In 5 minutes it will bring you to your grave'' really got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sandervanderkammen9230
9 ай бұрын
The de Havilland Comet has the worst loss rate of any jet airliner in history
@senorpepper3405
7 күн бұрын
Those square windows@@sandervanderkammen9230
I can imagine these flights, where the plane stalled, to be one of the most horrible things one can experience... this must have been absolutely terrifying.
@jeelsvealnerve1163
Жыл бұрын
Just like the 737Max... or the original 737 before they redesigned the rudder servo valve. We have our colossal failures in aviation, just as the Russians and British do.
@superstarmusic9043
Жыл бұрын
whats the first song name
@jeomirit
Жыл бұрын
@@jeelsvealnerve1163 and you understand that, but unfortunately others don't and just keep saying that Russia is unsafe
@mandarin1257
10 ай бұрын
A stall doesn't feel that scary. For an average passenger, it would probably just feel like some bad turbulence, not realizing they're going down until the very end. Different story for the pilots, who were acutely aware of the entire situation as it was unfolding. Terrible tragedy... the rules of aviation, both written and unwritten, are in blood. Source: I'm a private pilot.
@dmitrykim3096
9 ай бұрын
People were built differently back then, it was almost normal that disasters happen from time to time and airplanes crash
Might have been a horrible craft, but you’ve gotta admit that it looks incredible. Those integrated jet engines are sleek as hell
@tylerk2533
Жыл бұрын
Big facts the plane is nice looking
@feodorramin7043
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Edax_Royeaux
Жыл бұрын
One engine explosion or engine fire and the wing is toast.
@drabberfrog
Жыл бұрын
How big of a pain in the ass was it to do maintenance on those engines?
@popcornfury9095
Жыл бұрын
"this plane is a beautiful coffin" - Soviet pilots, probably
As with more than a few Soviet airliners, despite its design troubles, the -104 was a seriously beautiful aircraft.
@tagorod
Жыл бұрын
And fast
@kilianortmann9979
Жыл бұрын
Tu-104, Tu-134 and Tu-154 Tupolev really know how to design good looking aircraft.
@hulagu3068
Жыл бұрын
I think its ugly
@nickmurphy4209
Жыл бұрын
I love the sleek look of almost all early jet airlines
@marallenrondez2606
Жыл бұрын
The swept-wing, and integrated engine wing design is always a favorite design for early jet lovers.
Who doesn’t love trying out the first prototype of the first generation of anything
@microcloudhd9231
Жыл бұрын
I do clinical trials and am a member of the Windows insider program so I do that quite a lot lmao
@twistedyogert
Жыл бұрын
It's exciting.
@Edax_Royeaux
Жыл бұрын
HMS Dreadnought was supposedly a very safe posting to be on, since all she accomplished in the war was the sinking of a U-Boat. First all-big guns warship with the new prototype steam turbine engines redefined what it was to be a Battleship and rendered any pre-dreadnoughts before it obsolete.
@CynthiaSchoenbauer
Жыл бұрын
Not me.
@TheLaughingDank
Жыл бұрын
You take the leap, either you land or you don't.
The pilot reporting all the details before the crash is a hero.. Mustard is back again with another quality content. Always worth the wait..
@player1GR
3 ай бұрын
No, it's not any kind of quality content. His explanation is totally incorrect. In fact those crashes were caused by stalls on wingtips (so called "Saber dance"). Planes of that era didn't have a special twist. New planes do have it. So now if a stall is occurred, it starts not on wingtips. But Tu-104 developed stalls on the wingtips, and as wings are very much sweped back, wing loses the lifting force closer to a back of the plane, so the center of lift shifts to the nose of the aircraft. And of course it has nothing to do with being a former bomber aircraft
@maus-chanuwu1244
2 ай бұрын
@@player1GR then do the same stuff as he do instead of crying in comments
Comparing to comet, there were twice as many 104s built. 25 serious accidents happened to the comet, 37 - with 104 which actually makes 104 a more reliable aircraft in terms of serious accidents per airplane
@Frserthegreenengine
7 ай бұрын
Out of the 25 Comet crashes, 13 were fatal and most of them were caused by pilot error. Only 3 were as a result of metal fatigue or the structural problems. Tu-104 fatalities were significantly higher than those of the comet. Also the Soviets did not ground the aircraft unlike the British with the Comet. Instead the Soviets kept them in service and thus sent many innocent passengers to needless deaths. So much for claiming to be for the people, the Soviets didn't care about safety.
@geo.m1639
6 ай бұрын
@@Frserthegreenengine’Pilot error’
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
6 ай бұрын
@@Frserthegreenengine😂pilot eror and bad training
@machirim2805
5 ай бұрын
What the hell does accident rate per airplane have to do with the overall reliability and danger of an aircraft beyond being a mere statistic? The DC-10 had a lower hull loss rate than the Tu-104, yet was just as dangerous as a Tu-104, as both had major design flaws. It really does seem that logical fallacies (and especially whataboutism) are as natural to Russians as vodka.
@annoyingbstard9407
5 ай бұрын
@@Frserthegreenengine. If “numbers killed” is how you like assessing aircraft then the Boing 747 is the most dangerous in history.
One of the worst accidents of TU-104 is the Soviet Navy СССР-42332 in the 80s. It carried on board 50 admirals and high ranking officers of the Soviet Pacific fleet. All passengers were killed. Nearly reduced the whole command line of the Soviet Pacific fleet to nil.
@impaugjuldivmax
Жыл бұрын
dumbest airfly ever.. such a high ranking commanders should never meet together, even on parades
@maikanielsen8101
Жыл бұрын
Ouch
@Phani7
Жыл бұрын
At pushkin
@Project_1143M
Жыл бұрын
That one Admiral who didnt board Hehehehaw
@pegcity4eva
Жыл бұрын
That crash was sure hubris.
Great video! Thank you Just some details here: all soviet passenger's pilots those days were former army pilots. And this is very important detail about why engineers couldn't understand why such situations happen with the plane. And why they were blamed by Tupolev for incidents and crashes. That planes had blackboxes but very basic; every time on inspection after crash there were no any voice recording. So black box constructors were blamed for failed device as well. But again, nothing was wrong with black box: just pilots when they fought for the plane they did it in total silence. Like they tought and did in the army. So that heroic captain (Garold Dmitrievich Kuznetsov) did was completely uncomon. He commented every step and result. He fought with his crew for the plane til the end. His last words before crash on black box recording were "..we are dying! Goodbye!"
@irisiris143
Жыл бұрын
omg wow ok thank you for this
@DiggerDeeper01
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I was enraptured and felt so bad reading this and want to salute these men, but the last sentence slapped me in the fucking face. It just reads like "Ohp, I'm die. Thank you forever." and I just lost it.
@i.o.inoagenta
7 ай бұрын
@@DiggerDeeper01not sure if i understood it in the right way. But if you’re skeptical about last words - you can find confirmation on wiki en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Aeroflot_Tu-104_Kanash_crash or related videos with recorded audio from the box. Google voice translate can help with russian audio
@Junimeek
3 ай бұрын
@@DiggerDeeper01 i wonder how many people reading this are actually going to know who you're referencing here lmao
Often in the summer, the family flew Tu-104 from Vladivostok to Khabarovsk and then to Moscow on Il-62. Comfort corresponded to that era.
I love how much the CG renders have evolved over time on this channel. They were always nice looking, even with the models on the desk aesthetic of the older videos, but seeing the fully rendered vehicles in an outdoor and realistic looking setting I'm surprised I'm still watching a series on KZread sometimes.
@solsoman102
Жыл бұрын
haha wow you just reminded me of the old model on table thing they used to do it's what made me fall in love with the channel but over time i forgot that their tenders weren't always this great
@Fisher_007
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that they are rendered with a real-time engine (Unreal Engine) so one day we might have interactive versions. That would be so cool!
@DataC0llect0r
Жыл бұрын
I was about to say something like this. CG looks amazing
@cuccklord
Жыл бұрын
szfhdg
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
Жыл бұрын
are they blender animations or what softwares does he use ?
When I was 4 years old I flew by TU-104 from Moskow to Sverdlovsk. From the comfort point of view it was very fine journey.
@gedgjoumk5449
Жыл бұрын
Your family must be rich
@leonidpopkov7623
Жыл бұрын
@@gedgjoumk5449 Not at all) Flights in USSR were cheap. One of rare good things in that undead state.
@gedgjoumk5449
Жыл бұрын
@@leonidpopkov7623 how much usd in today's value I wonder...
@angusclark8330
Жыл бұрын
The only Soviet airliner that wasn't furnished like your Grandma's house was the Tu144. Most had Cadillac upholstery, deep carpets, curtains and library standard reading lights. You might die in a field, but you would be comfortable till the thump.
@angusclark8330
Жыл бұрын
@@gedgjoumk5449In the 70s, a flight from Moscow to Central Asia would cost 30 Roubles. Moscow to Khabarovsk was 40. Moscow to Vladivostok was 50. Hideously underpriced to some eyes, but the overriding priorities in the Soviet Union were national connectivity and accessibility.Even Solzhenitsyn, no fan of the Soviets, remarked on the cheap availability of air transport. Subsidized to Hell and back, but Whoop de Doo, so's Amtrak.
a beautiful plane that probably should have stayed in an aviation museum from the moment it was first built
@sandervanderkammen9230
5 ай бұрын
Much better plane than the de Havilland Comet
@Robonoob_per
5 ай бұрын
The is way better that any aircraft ever like the f15 doesn’t even have as many kills
@jimtaylor294
4 ай бұрын
@@Robonoob_perTrue, true 😆👌 .
My dad flew on board of TU-104 several times in 60s. He told me that the airliner was really comfortable and the catering was great with black caviar and cognac
@restojon1
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic! What an experience that must have been! The Soviet era was so fascinating from both an engineering and social history standpoint. с уважением кому папа (я учу русский excuse me if my Russian is wrong)
@daymenleo6895
Жыл бұрын
it's a shame airlines don't bring back the caviar and COG' nac
@dannydaw59
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Soviet Govt kept the crashes a secret from the flying public.
@restojon1
Жыл бұрын
@Константин Родчанин большой спасибо 🙏
@vladilenkalatschev4915
Жыл бұрын
@@restojon1 flying in 50s-60s was really something special on both sides either East and West.
I've been watching Mustard for years now, and every time I see a new video I'm blown away by every aspect of it. Honestly, from the intriguing topic, to the life-like 3-D models, to the smooth narration, you guys just amaze me. Seriously the most underrated channel on YT. Thank you for providing this content, and yes I've joined Nebula I just can't comment on there!
@MustardChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I know it's cliche to say, but I'm so glad there's an audience out there that appreciates it :)
@mui6151
Жыл бұрын
From all of us who have seen your videos there is indeed an audience
@TastyPurpleGum
Жыл бұрын
@Poorschedriver I couldn't have said it better
@Fetherko
Жыл бұрын
The audio is clear and he has a great voice.
The TU104 carried over 90 million passengers in it's career.
Boeing: hold my door
@WilhelmKarsten
Ай бұрын
Boeing makes the safest aircraft in the world
@combie7482
Ай бұрын
@@WilhelmKarsten737 max loose doors 💀 united airlines 777 gear wheel flies off 💀
@WilhelmKarsten
Ай бұрын
@@combie7482 It happens all the time to Airbus aircraft... the news media doesn't cover it. Recently a brand new A321 Neo lost its engine leaving debris all over the runway, no media outlets covered the story.
@combie7482
Ай бұрын
@@WilhelmKarsten man news is biased these days
@ilzuab8467
29 күн бұрын
@@WilhelmKarstenYeah the news doesnt cover it, because everyone is out to get americans and no news would ever cover for them. Seriously, how would you even believe that?
My parents and I flew on a Comet from New York to London 1959. First Jet airliner for us. It was really a great experience. We went on to a different flight to Paris. We heard that the same plane (Comet) went on to Stockholm and exploded in the air. Something to do with the cabin pressure system. Our next flights were on the DC8 and 707.
@kjetilkjernsmo8499
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I can't find any such accidents in the Aviation Safety Network database. Neither in 1959, not enroute to Stockholm.
@therealtony2009
Жыл бұрын
@@kjetilkjernsmo8499 ooh
@MeTube3
Жыл бұрын
By 1958 the on service Comet fleet were replaced by Comet 4 which was modified to prevent the pressure hull structural failures that affect the earlier versions.
@semsemeini7905
Жыл бұрын
I think it was coming from Rome.
@kjetilkjernsmo8499
Жыл бұрын
@@pa.d5688 Ah, OK, I thought it was a Comet we were talking about, not a Tu-104.
I flew on one in 1976, from then-Leningrad to Moscow. No individual air outlets, loud engine moan, and I watched in fascination on approach as the flaps wound out on long, long exposed jackscrews. As well, at Leningrad were a flock of recently-retired TU-114s on the tarmac, all those multiple layers of props glinting in the sun...good memories!
@tonyunderwood9678
Жыл бұрын
Exposed jackscrews on the flaps reminds me of the DC-10... sitting in the right spot, you can see the jackscrews working. :-)
@chrisamies2141
Жыл бұрын
I flew on one the same year, can't remember which route (we went to Moscow, then-Leningrad, Kiev and Yalta), but going by what you've said it may have been the same.
@superstarmusic9043
Жыл бұрын
whats the first song name
Fantastic video about a plane I didn't know of from a channel I hadn't seen before. Brilliantly put together video of a really high quality. Well done.
Nice song, we sang it in the 60s. However, I had to fly the Tu-104 Lelingrad-Moscow several times in the mid-70s. This is considered a short route and was served by this aircraft. It has already been removed from long-distance routes. The plane seemed rather archaic to me until I had to fly from Moscow to Central Asia on an IL-18. This was a real vibration stand, although it had the most comfortable seats of anything I had to fly on.
As an aerospace(aeronautical) engineering student I confess that I did shorten the wings of a G550 in order to turn it into a EMB-145, albeit just on the sim ofc. If I were to test it, surely it will stall.
I love the almost photorealistic graphics in between, the choice of music, the type of information you provide and how you provide it coupled with real pictures an videos, as well as simple graphics, superb!
@superstarmusic9043
Жыл бұрын
whats the first song name
@BobBasshead
Жыл бұрын
Very well presented.
Boeing, "hold my beer"!
@sandervanderkammen9230
3 ай бұрын
Boeing makes the safest aircraft in the world.
@hyper.rsa.5414
18 күн бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230🚬 🌿
@AdventureswithJames6110
10 күн бұрын
Sometimes
Excellent documentary, no wastage and straight to the point. Thank you.
This should deserve to be on television 10 times more then any other documentry I really love your content!
@williamyoung9401
Жыл бұрын
"Why you wouldn't want to fly the new Boeing 737-Max. Did I say 737-Max? I meant a 'Soviet' airliner...yeah..."
@heidirabenau511
Жыл бұрын
@@williamyoung9401 *Boeing moves head office to Moscow*
I remember plane spotting at Heathrow as a kid in the 60s, when ATC change from the two main runways to one of the shorter, no longer existing, cross runways. An Aeroflot TU104 came in fast and had to deploy parachutes to stop. A very unusual sight at Heathrow.
I love how he starts his videos with get access to thousands of high quality shows and series. My man doesn't realize that the content he provides is the reason I signed up for curiosity stream. Keep it up.
Beautiful looking aircraft, especially the Glass nose cone/ cockpit and wing design.
Maintenance must’ve been a pain but wing integrated engines look so sleek like on this and the De Havilland Comet
@hurri7720
Жыл бұрын
Still a very bad design as every engine "explosion" would have been more dangerous to the plane, the fuselage. No wonder it's not used.
@x-ray3443
Жыл бұрын
@@hurri7720 That and you cant really use high bypass turbofans with that design
@filledwithvariousknowledge2747
Жыл бұрын
@@x-ray3443 A key advantage from that embedded design was no engine drag
@x-ray3443
Жыл бұрын
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 but dont non highbypass turbofans drink fuel?
It is a hella gorgeous aircraft for sure regardless of it's reputation
@BrianGriffinW
Жыл бұрын
Soviet designs were so awesome
@pal6636
Жыл бұрын
...and that's why aircraft are referred to as "she "
@jaybee9269
Жыл бұрын
So true.
@midcenturymodern9330
Жыл бұрын
That is like saying "what a beautiful gravestone." 😄
@planemod8399
Жыл бұрын
@@pal6636 boats
This was very interesting, the pilot who radioed back as he was experiencing that event, I salute him 🫡 !!
10:50 Should write a version of this song for the 737Max...
@sandervanderkammen9230
Жыл бұрын
The Max is a much safer than the Tu-104 or the Comet
@clarenceghammjr1326
3 ай бұрын
Present day makes this post even funnier, today united airlines said Boeing is not in there future 😂😂😂😂
@sandervanderkammen9230
3 ай бұрын
@@clarenceghammjr1326 *United is so badly managed it might not have a future..* *Boeing reported it has 1,456 new orders in 2023 with 150 new 737 Max orders from Alaska Airlines!!!!*
@sandervanderkammen9230
3 ай бұрын
@@clarenceghammjr1326 *Stupid people who watch the mainstream Media often forget that Boeings 737 is the most successful aircraft in history with over 11,000 sold and orders for 15,000.* *1/3rd of all the people in the air right now are onboard a 737... more than 2,000 in the air as you read this, one takes-off or lands every 3 seconds.*
Every few months the world becomes a better place due to your videos.
@saml7610
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that's negated by all the, well... *Gestures at the world*
The last TU-104 was put out of service in 1981 (by that time, it had been out of civil aviation for many years) after its crash resulted in deaths of top brass of the Soviet Pacific Fleet's
@canerguener8664
9 ай бұрын
Think it was mid 80s. Or it was a similar plane
@skeetrix5577
6 ай бұрын
there's a video on KZread, shit I don't remember the creator name but it explained that crash in great detail. it is narrated by a Russian native speaker and was a great channel. It pisses me off I can't remember his channel name
@imaginationplay3382
5 ай бұрын
The channel is paper skies
@legatvsdecimvs3406
3 ай бұрын
Tu-104 was flying until 1986. That crash was caused by idiots not securing cargo in the back of the plane, it resulted in a "nose up" stall on take-off from a sudden shift in the center of gravity. Something similar happened to a US Military chartered Boeing 747 in Afghanistan in 2013. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5qk2s9pdJecmbQ.html
@NickNameRU
2 ай бұрын
@@skeetrix5577 I think, its chanel "Skyship Eng".
These films are incredibly well-made and researched. The narrator's voice is engaging and interesting. Thank you so much for bringing these to us.
Top marks for this video, interesting, new to me; but best of all great graphics, narration, timing, and story telling. ONe of the best videos I have seen in 3 years. thank you
I'm from a post Soviet county and I've actually heard some people using phrase going to the TU 104 as an euphemism for going to toilet, so I guess it didn't have all that great reputation here as well 😂
@EmWe972
Жыл бұрын
where you from?
@RpMTarTar
Жыл бұрын
@@EmWe972 Idk, maybe she/he is from Georgia, just assuming from the end of the last name.
@indridcold8433
Жыл бұрын
The Canadians have a term when we mess up, "screwing the pooch." As attractive as that may sound to some, for the majority of us it means we messed up because we meant to make sweet love to our partners instead, unless, of course, your partner is a pooch. I guess then that is good for that microminority.
@peepa47
Жыл бұрын
post soviet is a vague term
@machupikachu1085
Жыл бұрын
@@indridcold8433 LOL I forgot about that term! My cousin earned the nickname 'Dogger' because he was always screwing the pooch.
I love the B-29 Navigation/Bombadier window on that beast. Beautiful aircraft.
@shaider1982
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if that was deliberate: Tupolev had the job of reverse engineering B29's that landed in the USSR Theses became the Tu4 Bull
@SMGJohn
Жыл бұрын
Soviets liked having the navigator in the nose, a tradition they kept for a long time.
@RatPfink66
Жыл бұрын
@@SMGJohn he was probably having to shoot the stars and other stuff
@angusclark8330
Жыл бұрын
@@shaider1982 Landing fields in the Soviet Union were often just that: fields. The navigator/ co- pilot would have to assess ground conditions before okaying a landing attrmpt. ANT was just keeping up the practise of his youth.
Thanks for making the great video! I really enjoy watching your content. The qualities are high af.
Exquisite pictures and beautiful retro graphics and composition. A lot of work, I guess. Congratulations, Sir!
Excellent video and content, as always. Thank you for such consistently high quality of content. I remember these aeroplanes! Cheers from England.
The first airplane I ever flew was the Tu-124 - a scaled-down and reengined 104. It was 1975 or 76, I was 8 years old and the main impression was - just how small the thing was, especially inside. Much smaller than a regular city bus. And, in retrospect, it wasn't much safer than the 104 - the 124s were grounded and written off along with the remaining 104s, in 1979-1980.
@DavidAndersonKirk
Жыл бұрын
You were a pilot at 8 years old! No wonder these things crashed a lot
@jmi5969
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidAndersonKirk That's why I already considered retiring then...
Then during the rise of jet airliners, Boeing said "hold my beer" and nailed it on their first try with the Boeing 707
The videos you are making are marvellous! Keep going like that.
I watched Russian TV film about this aircraft where they mentioned that pilots reported many times weak responsiveness of the elevators and official reports after the first crash, which mentioned this dangerous tendency to pitch-up, but Tupolev himself ignored pilot's complains and the report and said that pilots just don't know how to fly. Probably because this aircraft was a favourite one of Krushchev and authorities just didn't want to take responsibility to ground this airplane - direct results of autocracy and totalitarianism. If they haven't ignored pilot's reports, they would have avoided future catastrophes and deaths. Another issue for this plane was it's challenging landing, pilots should descend in steps rather than smoothly following glissade. All in all Tu-104 scored the worst reliable Soviet airliner with 37 airplanes lost out of 201 produced. The last catastrophe happened in 1981 (being dismissed from Aeroflot, Tu-104 still has been in use for army). In this catastrophe high-ranking Soviet military personnel of Pacific fleet had died.
@slavsh
Жыл бұрын
@TacticalMoonstone Thank you for letting me know.
@angusclark8330
Жыл бұрын
@@tacticalmoonstone9468 He also noted that the cause of the accident was unsecured rolls of printing paper that were being, in essence, internally smuggled to the Far East, each weighing half a metric tonne. When the plane pitched up to take off, the paper rolls rolled to the back of the (tail) cargo compartment, destroying the plane's balance irrecoverably. No pilot on this earth or the next could have saved it. The irony that the cream of Soviet Naval Defense had died because of their bourgeois (and possibly capitalist) greed seems to have evaporated from the official report.
@matthewmosier8439
Жыл бұрын
@@angusclark8330 Interesting info. Capitalism doesn't have anything more to do with greed than Socialism does. One can be greedy in either system.
@slesru
Жыл бұрын
"direct results of autocracy and totalitarianism. " I guess communist are responsible for boeing 737max ? ;-)
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewmosier8439 Indeed. Boeing 737 Max, anyone?
It's amazing that the Tu-104 and the Tu-114 and -116 are based of of Soviet bombers yet have had such importance to aviation in so many regards.. well done Mustard!
@hurri7720
Жыл бұрын
All civilian aviation with jet engines was based on bombers. Perhaps not the British but they failed perhaps due to that.
@aoki6332
Жыл бұрын
@@hurri7720 not really only the jet engine came from bombers its just that most company that made plane where making civilian and Military plane the same why lockheed martin make missile for the air force and booster (and a lot of other stuff but you get the idea) for the nasa
@theq4602
Жыл бұрын
I;d love to see a passenger jet based on the TU-22
@cuccklord
Жыл бұрын
hi
@machupikachu1085
Жыл бұрын
@@aoki6332 the boeing 707 was designed from a bomber.
Awesome informational videos !! Keep it up !! Thank you
I flew a Tu-104. Huge engines power, comfortable interior and loud noise inside. As it took off, thunder was heard on the ground!
@irisiris143
Жыл бұрын
:0
@Blue-jn1ph
Жыл бұрын
Sure, that happened
"Gander International Airport, once one of the most important in the world." On September 11, 2001, it definitely was the most important airport!
In the 1950s when I was a kid growing up in the States I built plastic airplane models like lost of boys and the TU 104 was one of my favorites. I still like the way it looks.
10:48 folk song had next line after 'the grave': "you had to go by train"
Mustard needs his own documentary special on one of the major streaming services. Each episode is so well done, informative and entertaining to watch.
@sailintothesun3421
Жыл бұрын
I think the 'execs' would meddle in the creative process. They would probably find his dedication to making his videos so visually appealing wasteful
@tihspidtherekciltilc5469
Жыл бұрын
No.
@MONARCH1985
Жыл бұрын
Yeah if he released videos that are exclusive. Still waiting on the B-2 video that was supposed to release two months ago
@BR69843
Жыл бұрын
@@MONARCH1985 Did you note the point made at the end of this video about the Spirit video?
@MONARCH1985
Жыл бұрын
@@BR69843 no I didn’t watch it
My family hosted a Russian exchange student in the 1990s, and his dad had a fairly lofty position in Aeroflot. He brought us some gifts, including some literature from Aeroflot boasting of their new navigation system that had an instrument in the aircraft pointing to the location of a radio beacon on the ground. Well, my dad's a pilot, and he chuckled that the Russians were praising their equivalent of an automatic direction finder (ADF), which was a fairly old technology in the U.S.A. by the 1990s.
@hicknopunk
Жыл бұрын
Our 90s Russian student was a tax free, vodka smuggler 🤣
@UWKS911
Жыл бұрын
At that time they've been using VOR, DME and RSBN (Soviet short range navigation system). And INS which was synchronized with RSBN. And of course ADF as you've stated earlier. ADF was the only navigation tool probably on some really small aircrafts.
@DrWhom
Жыл бұрын
@@UWKS911 I hope your facts are sturdier than your grammar. "At that time they've been using" - you mean: would have been
@UWKS911
Жыл бұрын
@@DrWhom sorry, English is not my native language. My Russian grammar is better)
@jonnyd2008
Жыл бұрын
@@DrWhom “they’ve would have been”? If you’re going to correct someone (who’s first language isn’t English) at least get it right. “They would have been” Smug twat.
Fascinating glimpse into the strategic innovation of using existing technology to propel Soviet civil aviation into the jet age. A brilliant move by Tupolev, with both risks and rewards that shaped aviation history.
10:58 got me laughing so hard lmao especially since i speak russian as my parents immigrated from the soviet union to canada
Safe or unsafe , Soviet engineering always fascinates me.
@angela20377
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@ikr9358
Жыл бұрын
It's kind of like "Here's the bare minimum of money and resources, build something that'll at least look good for a year or two."
@kristoffer3000
Жыл бұрын
@@ikr9358 And last for 50.
@ourfarmhouseinspain
Жыл бұрын
They certainly had some interesting, if impractical, designs. Corruption, overreaching ideas, poor research and development, political interference all combined to dilute all of them.
@SPARTS3000
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes just ask the Polish!
I remember seeing Aeroflot '104s landing at Gatwick in the 1970s and were the only civilian aircraft I'd seen that used a parachute to slow down.
@Anodum
5 ай бұрын
The 104 is based on a military aircraft; when it was created, reverse to turbines had not yet been mastered. Issue 104 ceased in 1960.
@arthurennimore-empties6709
4 ай бұрын
The French built Caravelle had a parachute that could be deployed to slow the aircraft down upon landing.
@lzbhcvm6747
4 ай бұрын
Russian propaganda planes are never good
@legatvsdecimvs3406
3 ай бұрын
The Tu-104 RD-3 turbojet engines were designed in the 1940's, engine thrust reversers only appeared on Soviet aircraft in the 1960's. The engine nacelles on the Tu-104 could not be modified for those(or was too much of a headache). Using a parachute shortened the landing from around 3,000 meters to around 1,600 meters without stressing the air brakes and landing gear brakes. It was also safer in some weather conditions and short runways.
love aeroflot, last time i flew with one they had the absolute nicest brand new plane's with the best service and food, plus they gave you an actual metal fork haha love it. oh and the pilot was absolute world class, no heavy touchdown or anything when landing. smooth as butter.
@GooseGumlizzard
2 ай бұрын
and the flight attendants were hot
Nice to see you back. Was getting worried.
There is actually one of them placed near my house in my town as a local landmark. Its feels great to finally know the story of this plane after walking by it almost everyday since childhood.
These graphics in combination with this quality and style of video is an absolute masterpiece every single time. Very impressive, I wish I could watch one every week
Fascinating piece of equipment
In Soviet Union Komrade, only one way flights authorized and no guarantee of arriving at destination.
@sandervanderkammen9230
7 ай бұрын
That's the de Havilland Comet's motto.
@BarometricQuad
7 ай бұрын
we have several destinations to choose from in Soviet : 1. Ocean 2. Empty field 3. The forest
@sandervanderkammen9230
7 ай бұрын
@@BarometricQuad The Comet could sprinkle you over all of those destinations...
@BarometricQuad
7 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 yes
I love those documentaries , the animation and the stories told are always so interesting to follow something you see very rarely in KZread
I absolutely love the graphics and 1950s period style imagery. This is a really high end video. I'm very very impressed!
It might be the most dangerous, but it's certainly one of the most beautiful.
@sandervanderkammen9230
7 ай бұрын
Actually it is a very safe aircraft compared to the British de Havilland Comet... The Comet has the highest loss rate and fatalities statistics, 1 out of every 3 Comets built crashed or were destroyed in accidents.
@Crustaceannationrepresentative
6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230Soviet bot 💀
@sandervanderkammen9230
6 ай бұрын
@@Crustaceannationrepresentative Just the facts here lad, just the facts.
You guys produce GREAT videos.
I modeled this plane for the last episode of The Queen's Gambit. It was only on screen for about a few seconds though.
The Paper Skies video about the Soviet Navy's Tu-104 accident was excellent, and it's great to see an overview of the plane in general. Great video as always!
@brianwong7285
Жыл бұрын
10:41 There it is on that list.
@arifbayusatrio1028
Жыл бұрын
@@brianwong7285 good eye
@player1GR
3 ай бұрын
Not that great, it's a very weak video with bad explanation. In reality those crashes were caused by stalls on wingtips (so called "Saber dance"). Planes of that era didn't have a special twist. New planes do have it. So now if a stall is occurred, it starts not on wingtips. But Tu-104 developed stalls on the wingtips, and as wings are very much sweped back, wing loses the lifting force closer to a back of the plane, so the center of lift shifts to the nose of the aircraft. And of course it has nothing to do with being a former bomber aircraft
Sweet! Your style is awesome!
The story of The Comet is sad, so innovative in many ways, but is was the 707 "Water Wagon" that won the day. I think the West adapted military designs too. If you were to travel on a V-Bomber to New York with Joan Collins and David Frost strapped in next to you then you were basically replicating the Concorde experience (in essentials, anyway)
Another great video. I really enjoy how you mix aviation history with aircraft design. Secondly, you are a great story teller!
7:18 "Pilots were so afraid of Stalin--I mean stalling"
When I saw the glazed nose I assumed it was a converted bomber. 3:57 Ah, there you go.
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
It seems they kept the look down nose windows just in case they wanted to use them for military purposes in difficult situations some time in the future.
@sandervanderkammen9230
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 *Please name a single British company that still makes commercial jet aircraft in the U.K.?*
@sandervanderkammen9230
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 *Please name a single British company that still makes commercial jet aircraft in the U.K.?*
Something not mentioned - downward angled wings underneath the fuselage is a big no-no. Its induces a tendency to roll as the fuselage becomes like an inverted pendulum. Wings underneath should angle up - check any airliner flying today - and wings above the fuselage should angle down (eg C-17)
Another high quality educating video, thanks to you I know more about the history of planes than I could ever imagine!
Mustard releasing a new video is just a good day. I am ao glad we can have this quality content here on KZread. Thank you for a fun and detailed history on the first Tupolev passenger jetliner! (:
I love the easter egg at 2:42, good work!
I think I would've felt safer on this than a Comet, if I had a choice 😂.
@jimtaylor294
4 ай бұрын
...and you'd be right. The Comet C outlasted the TU-104 (didn't leave all military service until 1997, and the Nimrod subvariant lasted until the 2010's), had a robust safety record, and the manufacturer & Airlines actually made fixing issues a priority (unlike the USSR) 😏 .
@sandervanderkammen9230
4 ай бұрын
@@jimtaylor294 *The Comet was grounded in 1980 due to metal fatigue damage.* *The Nimrod although similar looking is not a Comet.*
@sandervanderkammen9230
4 ай бұрын
@@jimtaylor294 *Comet 1 was so unsafe it was permanently grounded in 1954 and its airworthiness certification was revoked.*
I absolutely adore these videos. I’m studying media and IT and just rendering out a simple animation took my (really good) computer over a night. I can’t imagine the amount of time that goes into these, including the research, scripting, planning, editing and so on. I’m incredibly flabbergasted at how you can keep making these and I watch every single one. So good.
@interpl6089
Жыл бұрын
What's a Really good Computer? In Different Parts of the World, It Still Means a Different Thing.
@xr.spedtech
Жыл бұрын
Do your Raytracing on your GPU Cores either through cuda or through Frag or pixel shaders ...
Comet- 13 crashes out of 114 built. Tu-104- 16 crashes out of 201 built. Tu-104 was slightly better. It also formed the basis of other variants. So, Tu-104 was more successful.
@tomwalsh6774
Жыл бұрын
16 crashes that we know about
@muslimcel4581
Жыл бұрын
Tu 104 more safe then Boeing 737 max
@RushmoorFizzbomb
Жыл бұрын
The video states that 20% ofTU-104 s were destroyed by accidents. This would be over 40 destroyed. So who is right?
Your video's are just beautiful!
I’ve always love the Comets design. The engines being in the wing just made it look so sleek, but I get it, it’s a pain in the butt to get to the engines to work on. Still looked pretty cool. But the square windows were a bad idea lol.
@sandervanderkammen9230
11 ай бұрын
The engine placement on the Comet was also one of its fatal flaws directly responsible for several accidents and fatal crashes. It's a bad design which is why no one copied it.
@sandervanderkammen9230
11 ай бұрын
Square windows theory has been completely debunked, wreckage recovered from the sea confirmed that the passenger windows were not related to the catastrophic in-flight structural failures.
Always immediately click on a new Mustard video whenever I see one. I love the high quality.
Fantastic work - very informative! I love learning about the early jet airliners - those who designed and flew them were pioneers in many ways. Just a quick note - on the map of the Tu-104's first transatlantic voyage to the United States, you have Gander, Newfoundland, mislabeled as Goose Bay AB (also in the province of Newfoundland in Labrador, but on the mainland portion, called Labrador, some 600 kilometers away). Cheers!
You've got some amazing visuals
Flew in one from Moscow to Leningrad in July 1969. In order to save fuel, the plane was towed to the head of the runway before takeoff.
Amazing. I was unaware of this history with the 104. Cool video.
Yaaaaay, you're back with a new one. I always get a little bit excited. Your videos are sooooo good.
Looks so beautiful
Damn good looking aircraft.
Well about re-designing, Tu-134 is actually seriously re-designed Tu-104 (actuly it's redesign of redesign - Tu-104 was converted into Tu-124 (less capacity and already safer) which was converted into Tu-134). And Tu-134 is hella good.
Nothing is better than seeing a brand new Mustard video on your recommended after a long day.
The fascinating thing about this era is how fast aviation technology evolved