What Makes People Buy? Price & Value Masterclass w/ Ron Baker

If you've been struggling financially to manage your expenses, price of product, or just overall livelihood of your work, then get ready to finally bridge that knowledge gap with the help of Chris Do & Ron Baker, as they discuss the concepts of Ron Baker's book "Implementing Value Pricing: A Radical Business Model for Professional Firms".
With a long & experienced background as a Certified Public Accountant, as well as Chris Do's masterful questions, Ron Baker is able to break down these concepts of price & value simply enough for anyone to understand!
6:25 Subjective theory of value
7:15 High client impact, high prices welcome
8:25 Price justifies the costs
12:21 The power of brand
14:39 Both the buyer and seller profit
16:04 Pricing sends signals
17:32 Determine your market position
21:19 Value is subjective, price is contextual
26:00 Give your customers pricing options
27:29 The value conversation
31:10 Premium prices w/ clear value prop
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  • @felixquansah5214
    @felixquansah5214 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely ranks in the top 3 guest interviews of the future. This man is insanely articulate and when I check all the references he’s making, he’s on a different level. Please bring him back soon. Loved this!!!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    He sure is. We plan on having Ron on again.

  • @Samuel_eldavis

    @Samuel_eldavis

    Жыл бұрын

    Which other ones do you rank in the top 3? Would be interesting to know

  • @KBootsTee

    @KBootsTee

    Жыл бұрын

    Curious… Who are the other top 2?

  • @KBootsTee

    @KBootsTee

    Жыл бұрын

    Yesssssssssss! Incredible, forthright and clear

  • @josephalexander681

    @josephalexander681

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG!!! When are you all having him back?

  • @joshuacunningham7912
    @joshuacunningham7912 Жыл бұрын

    6:25 Subjective theory of value 7:15 High client impact, high prices welcome 8:25 Price justifies the costs 12:21 The power of brand 14:39 Both the buyer and seller profit 16:04 Pricing sends signals 17:32 Determine your market position 21:19 Value is subjective, price is contextual 26:00 Give your customers pricing options 27:29 The value conversation 31:10 Premium prices w/ clear value prop

  • @saraeissa4954

    @saraeissa4954

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Joshua, I'll update the description. Thank you !

  • @EzekJohnson

    @EzekJohnson

    Жыл бұрын

    Powerful. Thank you Joshua.

  • @joshuacunningham7912

    @joshuacunningham7912

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thefutur Right on my friend. I just do this for personal/public notes. I actually haven't finished them yet 😂. I'll respond here when I do.

  • @ivankaradzhov3610

    @ivankaradzhov3610

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @seungjaeyeo8050
    @seungjaeyeo8050 Жыл бұрын

    The relationship between value based service and self esteem/self respect. The first sale you make is the price you put on your own service. WOW. Just wow..... this chat's value is just out the roof. Thank you for sharing this with the world!

  • @lantigre
    @lantigre Жыл бұрын

    Great interview. The best part was Chris taking the time to digest Ron's stories and points, and re-frame or rephrase them to ensure the audience (and possibly himself) understands the knowledge being dropped. Thank you

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome

  • @whatsapchat7443

    @whatsapchat7443

    Жыл бұрын

    TeXtMe DiReCtLy🤙🤙🥶🥶

  • @KBootsTee

    @KBootsTee

    Жыл бұрын

    AGREED!!!! His comments furthered my comprehension and practicality. Soooo good

  • @Adrian_Galilea
    @Adrian_Galilea Жыл бұрын

    Can't believe this video is free. Thanks.

  • @aaronramsden1657
    @aaronramsden1657 Жыл бұрын

    This is by far the most articulate and thorough explanation of value pricing Ive ever heard

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @linadukstaite6046
    @linadukstaite6046 Жыл бұрын

    This man made a massive difference in how we reorganised our business mind in our business today. It is amazing to listen someone like him for free!

  • @GofelipeGraphicDesign
    @GofelipeGraphicDesign Жыл бұрын

    I love the landscaping story and I’ve seen where I was the first two landscapers in many similar situations when I never heard back from the client.

  • @ByGodsGrace99
    @ByGodsGrace99 Жыл бұрын

    Learned more in the first 10 minutes than 4 years of my college marketing courses

  • @lucface

    @lucface

    3 ай бұрын

    Love KZread for that

  • @dylanmartinez925
    @dylanmartinez925 Жыл бұрын

    Ron is a fantastic teacher, this was so helpful. Incredibly coherent and direct, great examples and references. You can tell he's been doing this for a long time. True professional.

  • @jonathangonza
    @jonathangonza Жыл бұрын

    It's always super valuable when a person that deals with money and other people's money speaks, lots of valuable information is able to be extracted.

  • @JacquiMwangi
    @JacquiMwangi Жыл бұрын

    I have the Ron Baker headache. This guy is amazing and I can't wait to read his books

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    the medicine for this is to read his book. ;)

  • @mamotivated
    @mamotivated Жыл бұрын

    The KZread algorithm is recognizing the value of your channel. This got recommended to me.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    excellent!

  • @DeconTheMonkey
    @DeconTheMonkey3 ай бұрын

    The conversation and information in this is amazing. Can’t believe this is freely available for the public! Gonna take notes after my first listen.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    3 ай бұрын

    We are here to help.

  • @dtopping5961
    @dtopping5961 Жыл бұрын

    I’m only half way through and had to stop - to process what he just said. This information is en point. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate him speaking of the “solve the problem” issue only getting the customer to the status quo. We work so hard to bring more and all the business books get repetitive. This interview is so good. I’m taking a break and turning it back on in just a minute.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for commenting

  • @jameslay6505
    @jameslay6505 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of those interviews I'm gonna have to watch maybe 5 times over taking notes each time. Even on my first run I keep replaying lines because there's so much meaning packed in such few words.

  • @BushaBandulu

    @BushaBandulu

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @yv_shh
    @yv_shh Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love how Chris is asking questions just like a student? He really applies what he teaches - Learn - Unlearn and that's why I respect him as my Guru. Love you Chris ❤️

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @ms.mcghee6286
    @ms.mcghee6286 Жыл бұрын

    This video is solid gold. Well articulated by both host and guest. So many gemstones in this content for those holding a genuine interest in sales, particularly getting better at sales. Thank you for letting me feel as though my time was well spent in watching. Cheers!

  • @humanvoice369
    @humanvoice369 Жыл бұрын

    Bam! That's a world class business class on KZread 💫 What a wonderful man!! Great to see people like this when the world is going the greedy and unimaginative free economy way. We need the youth to take notes from people like him. 👏👏

  • @olamideelegbe7009
    @olamideelegbe7009 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best interviews I have come across. Really learnt a lot.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @Jphilipson
    @Jphilipson Жыл бұрын

    This guy is explaining the opposite of everything I've ever heard from every "successful" photographer in the photojournalism industry and it makes way more sense then all of the seminars I went to which explained how to break down your operating costs to justify your price.

  • @KBootsTee
    @KBootsTee Жыл бұрын

    THRILLED to have stumbled on this. Intuitively I have been contemplating idea of subscription for my practice/business. Now I realize the true power of it and how strongly it aligns with my mandate, beliefs and mission. More pondering and reading to do !!!!! I feel incredibly INSPIRED. Thank you to both of you! 🙏🏼

  • @AljaMr

    @AljaMr

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how did you implemwnt the subscription? I also love the idea…

  • @SWOOPNEBULA
    @SWOOPNEBULA5 ай бұрын

    This was amazing shout out The Futur and much love to Ron.

  • @HavenatLee
    @HavenatLee3 ай бұрын

    Yes, favorite interview so far! Great job, Chris!

  • @ThaoTrangPhotography
    @ThaoTrangPhotography Жыл бұрын

    I love this interview with Ron and Chris. IDK if it’s just me but I always like Chris doing the interview instead of allowing others to host it lol. Anyways, this was the best video ever! Watched all the way through and never got bored.

  • @krmorantte
    @krmorantte Жыл бұрын

    As someone who is just starting in the branding industry, this channel is gold mine! 🔥

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏

  • @DABlinxz
    @DABlinxz Жыл бұрын

    10 minutes into this and I've already learned so much. This is pure gold. 🥇

  • @luciaiglesias1456
    @luciaiglesias1456 Жыл бұрын

    So much business wisdom! Thank you for another value-packed video, huge admiration

  • @sewkingwet
    @sewkingwet4 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic video, this is SOOOO AWESOME! Service based businesses need to know this!

  • @10xAds
    @10xAds11 ай бұрын

    Amazing podcast .. and the man is genius especially.. love the idea when he said u just don't solve the problem as it brings the customer back to point A .. but help him to achieve his dream ... .. excellent podcast

  • @jerryoverton7037
    @jerryoverton7037 Жыл бұрын

    I don't agree with everything expressed, but (as usual) The Futur has put out great content. It's not just the high quality of the guests, but the equally high quality of the interviewing. Hats off to Chris for carefully preparing thoughtful questions and being willing to shut the hell up while the guest answers. Great stuff.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jerry.

  • @alexandrfedorov5722
    @alexandrfedorov572211 ай бұрын

    Value of this video is amazing. Thank you so much!

  • @ideegeniali
    @ideegeniali Жыл бұрын

    Clarity, competence and value/concepts per minute in this interview is insane! Thank you very much!

  • @luanf
    @luanf Жыл бұрын

    I don't listen to podcasts and definetely don't watch them. But this. This one is probably the most valuable interview I've watched in a long while. I instantly got a copy of his book and will do the same for the next one. Thanks Chris for bringing this person to my knowledge. I, like you, try to always go deeper in the knowledge tree and find the real OGs when it comes to sales, marketing and applied psychology so this was super insightful and helpful.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Luna, you might reconsider podcasts. I find them to be great.

  • @d1o2n4

    @d1o2n4

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah podcast are great especially when you’re doing more tedious tasks like painting a fence or cleaning the house. Decent pair of headphones, juicy podcast and you barely notice the work plus constantly learning.

  • @Itsthegreatwalt
    @Itsthegreatwalt Жыл бұрын

    This is the best conversation I’ve ever heard about pricing. So many takeaways

  • @olenievart
    @olenievart4 ай бұрын

    I just love this content here, man. We before in Ukraine and some still in BC, as everywhere else, still tend to think that the product’s value depends on actual hourly labour price involved and a number of another self explanatory ingredients. Whereas what’s the author is saying, in the opposite, is a customer based subjective theory of validating products pricing. Great job.

  • @kyanareneemayfield2834
    @kyanareneemayfield2834 Жыл бұрын

    Was literally just looking up all of Ron Baker's stuff when this came out. Thank you

  • @christianacker3543
    @christianacker35432 ай бұрын

    BRAVO! I wish every design student would learn this. I wish every high school student would learn this. I wish every voter would learn this. Thanks for these interviews, Chris Do.

  • @titofly00
    @titofly00 Жыл бұрын

    I've had heard this interview like 3 times now, it's so amazing to listen to both of you. thanks!

  • @jameskelly8620
    @jameskelly8620 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! You really scratched my itch! Wow thank you one of the best!

  • @CardizoneSemblance
    @CardizoneSemblance Жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this channel but the KZread algorithm gods smiled upon me today. I don't own a business or freelance but this video was mind-blowing. That example of the landscapers was insightful dive into the art of value propositioning.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the Futur

  • @uhurudenis
    @uhurudenis Жыл бұрын

    Your videos have helped me so much in running my business.

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @fernwehtwl
    @fernwehtwl Жыл бұрын

    i love this guest! he's so funny and very smart. I respect him

  • @bh3mediavideos
    @bh3mediavideos Жыл бұрын

    I truly believe this video, just profoundly changed my life! I never heard of Ron Baker until now. His brake down of Value….will forever change how I do business and everyday life. Thank you!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @ayushkumarchandra
    @ayushkumarchandra8 ай бұрын

    Can't thank The Futur enough for this. I always used to give 3 price options to the buyers but never thought it can be improved so much. Definitely gonna buy the book.

  • @zsanettkovacs6234
    @zsanettkovacs6234 Жыл бұрын

    Watched this 3 times already. So much value! Thank you

  • @CooleyHairGal33
    @CooleyHairGal33 Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely one of the best discussion on innovative pricing!! Thank you Chris.

  • @bmejia220
    @bmejia220 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome insights from this man Ron. Thank you Chris for bringing him on. Next I’m diving into all his books, priceless value I think!

  • @leemartin7579
    @leemartin7579 Жыл бұрын

    The value contained within this video cannot be overstated. Thank you!!!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @sub.owen.create
    @sub.owen.create9 ай бұрын

    This is an absolutely epic conversation… Gold 🙏

  • @Amish6Stringer
    @Amish6Stringer Жыл бұрын

    Did you make this video SPECIFICALLY FOR ME?! This is amazing. Thank you so much for this. Bought the book. Rethinking everything. THANK YOU

  • @JamieGAdaire
    @JamieGAdaire Жыл бұрын

    If Ron doesn’t, he ought to be doing voiceovers. He has an excellent tone and he’s consistent.

  • @jolenerobbertse8129
    @jolenerobbertse8129 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of my absolute favorite videos on your channel! Thank you so much for the content you produce and put out!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @tuikigeorge
    @tuikigeorge Жыл бұрын

    Wow... This is the best interview on the channel. Has changed my business model completely.

  • @NetKnowHow1
    @NetKnowHow1 Жыл бұрын

    I loved this pod cast. Labour theory of value. Intrinsic value? The subjective theory of value. Utility of customer value. I am trying to price an offer that brings a prospect B to B leads for product sales.

  • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
    @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena8 ай бұрын

    It's not everyday i see someone using a Blue Yeti mic. They are great mics honestly

  • @notebeansstationery
    @notebeansstationery Жыл бұрын

    so much valuable content, thank you for sharing on value pricing, subscription modeling, and reshifting a mindset on an exchange of value! The best thing i’ve heard was from my brother when i was trying to price my art prints i sell at events. I initially wanted to sell it for 10$ becuase i also was charging for my costs, and when i asked him how much he would pay, he told me $20-40. The best thing he said was: “If i wanted to buy a nice paper like this, i would go to home depot or staples and buy it myself. I would pay for this piece for the art and the value it has.” This changed my perspective forever!

  • @carmelgrace6402
    @carmelgrace640211 ай бұрын

    Thank you ! What a great interview. Mr. Baker , what a great orator , just so intersting and knowledeable

  • @Ah_Mariee
    @Ah_Mariee Жыл бұрын

    I just kept taking notes and outlining things for further research. This was a pricing masterclass!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    We think so too.

  • @harryreafor
    @harryreafor Жыл бұрын

    By far one of the best interviews here in the Futur!

  • @BeIndigoDesign
    @BeIndigoDesign Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic interview! Please get him back on to talk more about actually implementing a subscription model for creative services. Mind blown!

  • @KGohill007
    @KGohill007 Жыл бұрын

    Another banger. Loving it. This put my mind into hyperspace. +points for reading list. +points for podcast. +points for think-tank 👍👍👍

  • @Vladyyy
    @Vladyyy Жыл бұрын

    I have no doubt the editor of this values our time

  • @blurbing511
    @blurbing511 Жыл бұрын

    Another high-value video. Thanks, TheFutur team!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome

  • @pouchbae
    @pouchbae Жыл бұрын

    This was amazing! Jam-packed with so many gems! Thank you

  • @renehundertpfund5221
    @renehundertpfund5221 Жыл бұрын

    Such an amazing interview - incredible value - thanks so much for this gold nugget!

  • @KRUChY_80
    @KRUChY_80 Жыл бұрын

    my mind just go BUUUUUM - so many pitches, ideas, mind hacks... WOOOWW

  • @BossLadyJay
    @BossLadyJay11 ай бұрын

    I have not thoroughly enjoyed or found value in a lot of KZread videos lately, but this was top-tier! Thank you 🤗

  • @infinaneek
    @infinaneek Жыл бұрын

    One of the best interviews yet. Thank you!

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Nb61777
    @Nb617773 ай бұрын

    6:50 this is great, something also missed here is basic economics principle of supply and demand! If a product has minimal supply and much demand, doesn’t matter how much utility it has, it’s over priced BUT PEOPLE WILL BUY! Same thing for a very saturated market, product can provide significant value but if there is more supply than demand, the product will be underpriced for its utility!

  • @didelphissaksia786
    @didelphissaksia786 Жыл бұрын

    Again a video of this channel of Guru's which has helped me to advance in my understanding. ❤ Thanx SO much!

  • @Leonmiller407
    @Leonmiller407 Жыл бұрын

    So much value in this interview thank you for doing it. You’ve got my brain working

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @Truestratusx
    @Truestratusx Жыл бұрын

    Very insightful. Had to reshare it.

  • @baptistemiramon
    @baptistemiramonАй бұрын

    Incredible interview! Thank you.

  • @GoddessKhepraEl
    @GoddessKhepraEl Жыл бұрын

    Stellar masterclass and interview! I listened twice back to back to get the takeaway notes and double check uh earring them right. This is exactly what I needed as I have been at a stall in my service and if I’d be launching the subscription box I’ve contemplated

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear

  • @pburt3650
    @pburt3650 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant podcast! Thank you!

  • @brandonshabazz255
    @brandonshabazz255 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible. I literally need to listen again and take notes.

  • @BiNDiViSUAL
    @BiNDiViSUAL Жыл бұрын

    There were so many greens in this interview, great interview. Chris, Thank you for interviewing Ron

  • @lydiaoe5227
    @lydiaoe5227 Жыл бұрын

    I am 100% in with the part about understanding the clients needs & context and giving the client options. The subscription part then suddenly makes a complete turn here. When your clients are mostly public authorities and are required to obtain at least 3 tenders from 3 different firms; proposing a subscription, would be asking the decision-making person to do sth that would make them lose their job. Consequently, it is contradicting to understanding the clients context.

  • @catsinpajamas

    @catsinpajamas

    Жыл бұрын

    Subscription models are a fad and people are already sick of them. I predict there will be a big backlash.

  • @BeYourOwnDoctor
    @BeYourOwnDoctor Жыл бұрын

    Mind blowing concepts. A masterful podcast. Thank you for posting. Dr Jackson

  • @ezrabagus535
    @ezrabagus535 Жыл бұрын

    Wow this is super insightful and anwer if not all, most of my question regarding my business. After this I will reinvent what I do with my practice, and really be mindful about what customer wants and needs. Just wanted to speak that out to the world, thank you for the knowledge Ron and Chris :)

  • @niallcochrane3331
    @niallcochrane3331 Жыл бұрын

    The landscaper story was invaluable knowledge.

  • @pandaccj9811
    @pandaccj9811 Жыл бұрын

    I can listen to both of them the whole day without feeling bored. Pack with value. Thanks, Chris and Ron

  • @thefutur

    @thefutur

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome and Thank you

  • @roberttomsiii3728

    @roberttomsiii3728

    Жыл бұрын

    I second this motion.

  • @Rog.Tiks._
    @Rog.Tiks._ Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your content. It's priceless as usual!

  • @1dream921
    @1dream921 Жыл бұрын

    This was extremely valuable!

  • @michaelwalling9030
    @michaelwalling9030 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding discussion. So much to digest here.

  • @vivianeaires3335
    @vivianeaires3335 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic episode. Thank You, Chris!💜

  • @SoumiSenguptaBDS
    @SoumiSenguptaBDS Жыл бұрын

    Mic drop ....both of you illuminated these concepts beautifully.

  • @Arun198601
    @Arun198601 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this session so much...I wrote a blog post based on it for my industry. Tweaked the content but since the learning is transferable across industry...amazing stuff! Keep it coming!

  • @slycer10
    @slycer10 Жыл бұрын

    This is next level stuff. Awesome interview, great answers and fantastic stories packed with insights 😀👍

  • @lovingbeing4294
    @lovingbeing4294 Жыл бұрын

    GOLDEN INTERVIEW, TRUTH spoken ❤

  • @notlmpng
    @notlmpng Жыл бұрын

    Watching this in South Africa. What an interview! Found the book on Perlego and I'll read it religiously.

  • @SolowSports
    @SolowSports Жыл бұрын

    This is soo great. Had to watch it multiple times to soak it all in. Thanks!

  • @fuadimunzir
    @fuadimunzir Жыл бұрын

    This podcast have so many insight 🥰

  • @davidlakvold8380
    @davidlakvold8380 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thank you for discussing the subjective nature of value. Excellent interview.

  • @TheTobs50
    @TheTobs5011 ай бұрын

    Excellent interview. Very much outside my own frame of reference and set of interests, but very informative and full of practical insights.

  • @Summitapparel
    @Summitapparel Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this! So helpful!! 🙌🏼

  • @samptest2778
    @samptest2778 Жыл бұрын

    Love this podcast and it is my first time listening to your podcast and I think I am going to be your loyal follower

  • @legalcoffee5315
    @legalcoffee5315 Жыл бұрын

    Extremely insightful - thank you

  • @sir_afk
    @sir_afk Жыл бұрын

    Woah... That was awesome. 👌So insightful. Loved this. Thanks for sharing.