The fact that VW updated the steering wheel in the newer refresh of the jetta/gli but kept the physical buttons instead of putting the haptic ones like the Mk8 golf gives me hope that they got the message that consumers are not liking them.

@TechnoHouseHD

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that’s the case. This has the old engine , and older infotainment. I think they wanted to get rid of some left over parts.

@SNiiPEDoGG

Жыл бұрын

It's just because it's mk7.5 platform... vw may pull itself back into reality, but it won't be the GLI leading the way

@mthlaxer

Жыл бұрын

The new S3 has the new interior but physical buttons so that gives me hope.

@dubsessed9790

Жыл бұрын

@@mthlaxer mmmm new S3.

@dragospahontu

Жыл бұрын

But the glossy buttons look so much better

I have a 2021 GLI, I was initially looking for a GTI but I needed more room. After a year of ownership Im pretty satisfied.

You need to move the gear leaver to the right to get into manual mode where it won't shift. Being in sport it'll revert to auto after about 10-20 seconds

@Icanreadgood1

Жыл бұрын

thats what I was thinking, in my 2017 alltrack thats what I do and It doesnt auto shift. Am I missing something with this new gli? will it actually shift on you with the stick moved into manual shift mode?

@nastynatee88

Жыл бұрын

@@Icanreadgood1 yes it will

@juliocesarmessuti887

Жыл бұрын

this guy does not know how to drive... look he never attack the apex even knowing no ones coming at the curve exit he just talk

@spazysmalls

Жыл бұрын

@@juliocesarmessuti887 lol. Hes only driven most sports cars if not all. He definitely knows how to drive dude, probably didnt feel like going hard in this thing

@Superbustr

3 ай бұрын

It's kinda hard to believe that he doesn't know that to put the car in (override) manual mode, you have to push the gear selector to the right. Like every new Audi and a lot of VW models have the same or similar shift lever.

I had a manual 2019 Jetta and the trunk space actually shocked me. It is, indeed huge. Really practical.

@AH-lw2bj

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 Golf Sportwagen, and had a Jetta rental one time, and was surprised to find I could fit just as much stuff into the trunk as I do in my hatch

@dubsessed9790

Жыл бұрын

I have an S3 now and miss the massive space my GTI had for road trips, you could fold the seats down and pack that sucker to the roof.

@markjohnson2079

Жыл бұрын

I had a 2016! Loved it! (until I traded up to my 2016 S4)

I have the 35th anniversary edition and I’m very happy with it and agree with this review. The Han look tires wore out very quickly and I replaced them with pilot sport 4s and that made the handling and road feel and feed back much better. I get almost 40 mpg at 75 mph as well and it’s a great road trip car/highway car.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

I've gotten 42.5 MPG in my GLI S highway using eco mode and cruise control. Definitely capable of better numbers than advertised.

@CogMarks

Жыл бұрын

The first thing I did when I bought a GTI with those poor quality Hancook tires was to replace them with Continentals that perform well and last.

@infowazz

Жыл бұрын

can i have it?

@bjjbrawler1

10 ай бұрын

Interesting, my 2021 GTI came with Pirelli tires.... theyre ok but I will consider Continentals or Pilots soon....@@CogMarks

@Subpac_ww2

9 ай бұрын

Those Hankooks are junk. Just don't be like me to wait for a 2.0T Honda Accord or Sonata N to blow your doors off...get ahead of yhe competition toss an IS38 Turbo on that GLI and let her rip tater chip. Getting my IS38 and software today not getting walked by a Honda or Hyundai again. Come on VW....make a faster GLI....we're waiting.

This thing is made by Germans. If the power is between 1500-5000 there's no reason to go out of that power band. It is inconceivable for a German.

@coreygolphenee9633

Жыл бұрын

That was the first rule of German car ownership I learned, the graphs are laws over there

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

They say 1,500 to 5000 rpm, but my experience is there isn't any power until 2,000 rpm. My biggest gripe about my mk7 is that the transmission always wants to keep the rpm at 1,500-1,600 rpm. It would be a lot better daily driver if it tried to keep it 1,900-2,000 rpm when cruising.

@jmmyjimmy106

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffk464 I've personally never driven an automatic VW long enough to ever need to do this but you could try disconnecting the battery for about 10-15 minutes and hooking everything back up and trying to get the TCU to better adapt to your driving style. I've always felt like in normal drive mode the DSG cars did like to shift early unless you were heavy footed on the accelerator pedal.

@dragospahontu

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffk464 there's a little bit of laf from 1500

@dragospahontu

Жыл бұрын

@@jmmyjimmy106 exactly

The "hidden" kick-down feature is great in these too. Try it on an open straight first, but pressing the pedal almost-completely down will automatically downshift to the next lowest gear. I have a stock mk6.5 GLI

This car with the 6 speed is actually pretty good. I didn't know how good it was until I traded in my lease for a 2021 Mazda3 Turbo Hatchback. The interior wasn't nearly as nice as the Mazda, but it was such a more fun car. I also factory ordered my GLI with summer tires, so I think I addressed all of your concerns. I disliked the Mazda3 so much I sold it after 5 months and factory ordered a Miata Club with the BBS/Brembo/Recaro package. It's the most fun new car I've ever driven and makes every drive enjoyable.

@opmike343

Жыл бұрын

Mazda REALLY needs to knock off the dust from their performance division. Even freaking Hyundai has one now, and it makes no sense for them to not give cars like their Mazda 3 a proper "sports" trim like they used to have with the Mazdaspeed cars. If it weren't for the Miata (I have a '20 Club), they'd be just another car appliance company. Might as well be called Whirlpool.

@2bunphettered788

Жыл бұрын

What did you dislike the most about the Mazda Turbo? 🤔

@yopacific

Жыл бұрын

Miata Is Always The Answer

@haroldstaam

Жыл бұрын

@@opmike343 the hyundai veloster r is no joke. but those mazda 3 are pretty slick too

@darrenmathias9384

Жыл бұрын

@@opmike343 Mazda has made it clear that they have re-positioned themselves as a premium brand rather than a sports brand. Hence they have left the "Zoom Zoom" philosophy behind for new pastures which is working out well for them honestly. They still prioritize the love of driving, but for a different set of drivers than hardcore enthusiasts (save for the Miata of course).

My first VW was a new 1985 GLI. Fast forward to today and we have a 2018 Sportwagen 4Motion. The stock Hancooks had an internal separation at 20k miles and had to be replaced. The trans is programmed to take advantage of the low torque peak, plain and simple. Long live the Mk7 and its buttons and knobs!!!!

I have the golf r, if there’s one mod you do it’s a dsg tune. Moves the shift points around so it’s more practical in drive, but not as aggressive rpm wise as the factory sports mode. Way nicer to drive around town as it’s not trying to sit the engine at 1000-1500rpm all the time.

@moochiezpitt

Жыл бұрын

What tuner is your dsg tune?

@steven44799

Жыл бұрын

@@moochiezpitt APR

@sleepy35th

Жыл бұрын

APR S1 w/ DSG tune GLI 35 here. Can confirm dsg tune should practically come with the car

My review of this review so far "ah didn't take long to find our first problem. Not fully manual." That's because you're driving an automatic and you didn't put it into manual mode. Everyone thinks a $30,000 car is going to read their minds these days. The reason it shifts automatically is to protect itself from you Now go do what you would tell your kids to do and read the instructions first ugh

I’m so glad I came across this review. I changed jobs last year and now commute 115 everyday. This, the N, Sonata N Line, Mazda 3, Toyota Camry V6 have all been in the conversation but the fact you said it’s great for highway miles, and for a bit bigger of a guy, I’m essentially sold.

@ilyaslobodkin3811

5 ай бұрын

Def your best option

Been looking at the Jetta GLI and the Mazda 3. You did a nice job in evaluating the GLI. I appreciate your insights.

I just picked mine up last week. Exactly the one and color you have in the video. To me, this thing is great! I am coming from a 2011 Jetta and what an upgrade for me. I don't drive it like you and I never use the manual shifters because I can't drive a stick. I didn't use this feature in my last Jetta either so it is of no concern to me. I love everything else about the car, but I get why someone like you would be frustrated.

About the redline and shifting, its a common thing with VW. The MK6 GLI redline was 6k. With a tune, it would bump that rev limiter higher but realistically, power dies shortly after 6k because it is a relatively small turbo. VW wants their cars to pull like a freight train right up to their predefined redline to make the car feel more powerful. Sure, it's less fun with a lower redline but it makes it easier to stay within the turbo's powerband. Also, the summer tires are very good on these.

your comparison to other vehicles at the end is the best part

Good job it's suits me at 53,new tires ,tint ,I use 93 octane in mine ,it really runs good for 500$ tune Thx bro

Actually sounds surprisingly good. With a stick this seems like a decent car. E: I thought Jetta and Golf shared the wheelbase, but there's actually 5cm difference. huh.

@spacepxl

Жыл бұрын

It's funny how the soundaktor got so much hate originally for being "fake engine noise" but now, compared to the atrocious fake sounds some other cars put out, it's surprisingly tolerable or even pleasant.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

@@spacepxl I unplugged mine early on.

@dubsessed9790

Жыл бұрын

@@spacepxl their design for the soundaktor was actually pretty clever, as opposed to just using the speakers like some other manufacturers do. The method used to make the sound (vibrating the windshield to act as a subwoofer) is much more natural sounding, though still fake. Its a good implementation of a bad idea, haha

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

@@spacepxl It's not a "fake" noise though. They just insulated the engines really well and the actuator just pipes the sound it. That's in. I actually like it. Gets a sportier sound inside without drawing attention from the outside. I LOATHE noisy exhausts. Sound like lawnmowers but louder and sound like shit.

My mom drives a 2016 GLI 6-speed that she got after she was bored of her Panamera GTS with a PDK. She enjoys it a lot. The MK7s look good in white.

so i watched him hit the upshift and say "it just did it"

@zaytv125

Жыл бұрын

Right 😂

Agree with the DSG frustrations. My father has one of these with a DSG and the same tires and the auto upshifting and refusing downshifts regardless of having headroom kills most of the potential fun of this vehicle. I have a Mk7 GTI and it also had similar frustrations with auto upshifting, but the GTIs tuning was a bit more willing to let you downshift closer to redline and not auto upshift until you were similarly close to redline. I did get an APR DSG tune though which allows for full control and it will hang onto the gear without auto upshifting and just bang off the limiter if you let it. It's almost a necessary upgrade for anyone with a DSG GLI or GTI as far as I'm concerned and if my dad's wasn't a lease, it would've been done already. Same with upgraded tires. The stock tires on this car neuter the fun as you mentioned. I have PS4S on mine and with that combo with the DSG tune (along with a stage 1 performance tune) it completely changes the car.

@kevinm8715

Жыл бұрын

That DSG issue sounds like some serious BS. I had a 2013 Jetta TDi with the DSG and it didn't have this problem. Of course there was also no point in trying to hold the gear above 3200rpm, because there was zero power left at that point. 🙂

@Krauser1226

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinm8715 yeah, again the GTI, at least my Mk7 DSG model (which has the 6 speed mind you, not the newer 7 speed) was much less intrusive than the GLI's is, likely because of the tuning and intention from VW on the average buyer of this car wanting a more cushy commuter compared to the GTI. The stock GTI DSG tuning would auto upshift, but it would only actually do it into redline which, generally speaking, was fine. I almost always shifted before that anyway because, especially with the 2.0T, going right into redline wasn't offering much more power anyway. With the GLI, it's too aggressive and, most annoyingly, downshifting was VERY limited because you'd have to wait for the revs to fall much to low before it'd let you actually downshift. Again, the stock DSG map for the GTI was never that aggressive and allowed much more control, so perhaps it's a specific choice either for the GLI or the newer 7 speed DSG boxes, one or the other. A simple TCU tune fixes this immediately regardless, so I'd just factor that into the price of the vehicle and forget the stock tune even existed, but I get that's not really an option for people who are leasing or want to not worry about retaining their warranty should an issue arise.

@dragospahontu

Жыл бұрын

Do you lose the warranty?

@Krauser1226

Жыл бұрын

@@dragospahontu with ECU and TCU modifications, especially full tunes, they'll throw a TD1 flag which tells VW when scanned that the cars been modified. Technically, they can't deny warranty work for things unrelated to the tune itself (give the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act a search for reference) but they absolutely CAN deny warranty work related to your engine and it's associated components if a failure occurs and you're tuned if they say the tune did it. I didn't tune my car until my warranty was up for that reason and because I just didn't want to deal with the headache if something happened on my only daily that I relied on for commuting.

@dragospahontu

Жыл бұрын

@@Krauser1226 good to know

Same issue I had with my 2020 GTI DSG until I tuned it up with EQT. Auto Up-Shift and Kick-Down is enabled from factory. Same with not being able to downshift to 2nd or 1st if you're high on the RPM range.

Luv the desk

I just recently put Continental All Season Tires on my 2019 Ford Flex that originally came with Hancook Tires H26 Oprima 20".

Seems like a great daily and road trip car, especially if you get a good set of tires and of course get the manual

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

Funny how giving a car a manual can make even the most mundane car fun to drive. I don’t mind DCT and automatics but most car companies just suck at tuning them other than BMW.

@mistamaog

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho It's hard to make machines predict exactly what you want them to do. I'd rather just control it myself and not have to complain about weird programming or downshifting issues.

@JustinConley

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho it depends on the car. My Mk6 Golf TDI with the DSG is preferable to the manual, I test drove both - and I prefer a manual always. It was not even a contest with the diesel.

@juice7661

Ай бұрын

@@postalpancho Theres A LOT!!! of rev hang on the jettas

I'm not in the market for the GLI or any of its competition, but I've been eyeing the S5 GMT and am now convinced to buy one.

Thanks for finalizing my decision.

Nice review

@robertseidl6798

Жыл бұрын

@TheSmokingTire【 𝟰𝟰𝟯 】𝟱𝟴𝟰-𝟲𝟰𝟬𝟭 new inventory?

Finding one of these with a 6M is nearly impossible. Not to mention some dealers are asking for markups on a vehicle that is not even a limited production like a Civic Type R. It's a shame VW doesn't allow you to dealer order these things to your spec and color. If anyone knows a way around this, here in FL no dealer is playing ball. Great video and review as always Matt!

@Terror1Void

Жыл бұрын

I got one coming to me in OKC this month. I didn't order it, it was already allocated to the dealer here.

try adjust it in the DCC regarding the manual gear changing

I have a 2022 SE, needed something to pile the miles on for kids travel baseball. For the price, it's really good at long hauls. 40+ mpg and I got a 8 year 80 thousand mile warranty for 31 bucks a month extra that covered everything even maintenence. The only downside is the back seat, I might have to trade it in for an atlas or 2022 Passat as my 13 year old is 6 foot tall and my 10 year old is almost as tall. My precious Passat was like a limo compared to this in legroom. Overall it's a solid highway mile eater, over 10 thousand miles since Feb, but if you can deal with analog guages and a couple extra bucks a month go with the passat, and if you can afford to, the Atlas is real nice.

It's good to hear they have normal button controls. It's too bad about the DSG shifting like that! I never heard of that and imagine the 2022, etc also does the same thing? I'm sure an aftermarket chip flash might take care of that but would probably void the warranty. Would have to go with the 6 speed manual. Sounds and looks great though.

I own a 2016 Jetta GLI. In some ways, I’d like to upgrade to the Mk7, but on the other hand, I’m very satisfied with the Mk6. I like the way it looks, it’s quick enough in most scenarios, it has most of the features I want, and it’s paid for. I’ve done a few upgrades it - short throw shifter, Mk7 GTI wheels, and made some coding changes with OBD11.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

GLIs until the MK7 got less everything compared to the GTI. However, I do like the MK6 style (I had a MK6 2.5 SE) but the MK7 is definitely nice. If you're happy with the MK6, stick with it!

I know that there's lots of comparison cars that get left out of these reviews, but I'm curious how the Kia Forte GT (FWD, 200-ish hp, heated/cooled seats, good sounding exhaust, huge trunk) stacks up against the main rivals.

Older jetta 2.0 dsg. Put on Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 UHP summer tires, transformed the handling, and they have great tread wear.

Interesting to see Matt rocking the new SKX GMT!

Gotta move the shifter to the right for the transmission to not shift on its own.

Zack! I see that pan to the garbage cans right as Matt says "Unchanged from the 2022 GLI".

You shouldn't have to, but most frustrations can be fixed by the aftermarket (trans tune, wheels and tires etc) as for the powerband, in my mk7 GTI I feel like the car pulls harder when I shift from 3rd to 4th if I'm going flat out in a straight line (shifting at roughly 6-6500 rpm) so I get why it *encourages* upshifting but I still didn't like it

@user-ql1tt7cm1d

Жыл бұрын

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I have a 2019 base Golf Sportwagen 4Motion DSG, with a Unitronic Stage 1 tune. I always drive in manual mode, using the shifter because I have no paddles. It does auto-upshift, but only at the 6700 RPM redline. It's never auto-upshifted on me in manual mode before redline, and I can downshift in to any gear, even when the downshift is within a few hundred RPM of redline. It's the first car I've had where I can smoothly shift down to 1st gear around a tight corner, without stopping. It's an amazing drivetrain for the money. I hope VW hasn't ruined the manual DSG experience :(

I’m pretty sure when you put it in the sport mode which slides the shifter to the left should keep the gear in whichever one you selected but maybe they changed it for the 2023 GLI but it works like that for other DSG models to my knowledge

The turbos in these cars run out of boost past 6000 rpm. The torque curve is literally a triangle with peak torque really low.

@MrWhitePerson

Жыл бұрын

that diesel powerband on the model that's supposed to be sporty hmmmm

There is no power at 6500, the little IS20 is out of steam by then, so you should shift at 6k with the stock turbo. That said, trans tunes allow you to delete auto-upshift if so desired, and ups the shift points by 500 even in drive mode. Leave it in manual mode if you want to drive spirited (push lever to the right when in drive) and now you are in full manual mode and it will only shift per paddles (yes auto-upshift still there unless you tune it out). Stock tires are miserable, with a set of good summers (I run PS4s) the car really wakes up and is a roomier more relaxed alternative to a GTI.

I would love to see your opinion on the 6 speed manual to this. I own one as well but added a holy shift kit for a better feel.

Great hot takes. Love my GLI 35 but 34k is steep. Sad they got rid of the base models. I got my GLI 35 Manual new for about 24 before tax title and license. I think its a great car for under 30 but over 30 is another battle. From a mod standpoint the EA888 motor is bullet proof up to about 500HP. recommended first mods. Pull out the snowguard in the air intake for better flow, Better tires, and a tune.

The best part of this video is @13:06. That Sierra though. K2XX perfection.

This guy is litterally the only one roasting this car.

Very nice job sir! I like the GLI. I would get the manual. We owned 3 Audis a month or two ago. The 2 dealers here in Austin are 6 or 7 months behind on available appointments. With my wife’s Tiguan I can pull into the express service lane with no appointment. Though it’s mechanically much the same as my son’s A3 having the DSG service done at a VW dealer is around $3-400. For the A3 it is $1500. I traded my TTS for a Tacoma. Also my daily A3. It is frustrating to be driving around in an semi-expensive luxury car that is under warranty but won’t get repaired until next year. If I buy a replacement for the A3 it will be a GLI with the manual. I am not a cloth seat fan and I love heated seats because I have had 5 spinal surgeries so I drive around with them on no matter the ambient temp. Those 2 things take the Civic si off of my list. Also locally here in central Texas dealers are charging between $5-7500 over MSRP for the Si. We have 3 VW dealers. If I order a car they will sell it to me for MSRP. The Elantra just doesn’t do it for me visually. I don’t love the look of the Jetta but I don’t find it offensive.

@omariwest9068

Жыл бұрын

Agreed re: service costs vs. what you actually get in terms of features and performance. I love my '21 Autobahn 6MT - and yeah the heated and coooled leatehr seats are a must here in CA as well.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

I have a GLI S (didn't want the LED dash or sunroof in the Autobahn) and the cloth seats are better than you'd think. I've had three back procedures myself and the seat heater is quite nice.

@biodot88

Жыл бұрын

Manual in Austin traffic?

@rreichar1

Жыл бұрын

@@biodot88 I had a manual 2017 GTI SE as may daily for several years in Austin. My job involved lots of driving to different locations all over the city. I never wished for an automatic.

@joelbaker2172

Жыл бұрын

I just service my A3 at VW, longer waits, but better service for half the price.

Whoever in the automotive industry genius thought glossy black piano finish belongs on the steering wheel deserves jail time

Cant beat a Seiko. Love that orange dial.

Love mine,tires are trash , also I just keep in sport automatic, new tires and a good tune , she's great ,and a great everyday use.

I have a 2015 GLI and I still love it!

I had a 2012. Bought it without a test drive, so my biggest surprise (not a deal breaker, but kind of bewildering) was that there were no shift “farts” on the DCT, although the Golf had them. Same engine and transmission. So, my observation is that the GLI isn’t simply a GTI with a trunk, and is for a far less sporty crowd. I hate to say, but the changes seemed more cosmetic than performance oriented.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

Up until the MK7, the GLI and GTI did not fully share engine and transmission.

I drove one of these yesterday, and I loved it. Here at the end of 2023, this car is the only available fun sedan. The Elantra N is nowhere to be found because the 2024 is coming out early next year. The K5 GT and the Sonata N-line are not as fun as this car. They are bigger, and the power they have easily overwhelms the front tires. As someone who has owned mostly manual cars over the last 65 cars, and my 61 years - if you want control over gearbox - BUY THE Manual!

My mom's CRV hybrid has those tires. Very performance oriented.

Hey Matt. I was curious what you think of the new Integra compared with the GLI. As the Integra is what I'm leaning to and the GLI is also on my list. Big thanks for the video. Couldn't have been better timed for me lol

@xpogosam9690

Жыл бұрын

He and Zach discussed that on the podcast (most recent crew show #755) Or at least they discussed alternatives to the GLI.

@Marchsadness10

Жыл бұрын

@@xpogosam9690 very cool ty

@coreygolphenee9633

Жыл бұрын

Gotta say that integra looks quite good in person much better than I thought it would

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

More like Civic SI

@darrenmathias9384

Жыл бұрын

@ Cory Bernieri The Integra is more "tossable", has shorter gearing so you have to (or get to, depending on what kind of enthusiast you are) shift more often at legal speeds, its engine rewards chasing the redline because it keeps pulling all the way like a Honda engine should and has a more premium interior and lower cost of ownership compared to VWs. But the GLI is more quiet on the highway, feels more refined and planted like its made for Autobahns, thus the better road trip car. It is marginally quicker, if that matters to you. These data points should give you an idea of which car is the better pick for you.

these frustrations only seem to matter on a beautiful windy road which is where all these tests take place. i may be naive and just not have fun roads to drive (south florida), but i never need a gear to hold at redline for me to finish a corner. my last car was a jaguar xe v6 supercharged that would bounce off the redline in manual sport but that was never necessary or even fun tbh.

Good, solid review. No canyons in New York!

I liked my ‘19 Jetta GLI 35th anniversary (6spd) but it was lacking driving pleasure in my opinion. I bought it new and traded up 2yrs later with 24k miles on it to a used, 16k mile Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport. I did get 5k more than what I paid new for trade on my GLI and had a difference of 4K to the Giulia. Love my Giulia and it has been absolutely amazing.

@vincenzosciortino4411

Жыл бұрын

Also the GLI had god awful uncomfortable seats that killed my back in 30-40m of driving. I am in my 20s and not an old man 👴🏻

@MeltingRubberZ28

Жыл бұрын

I have the car mentioned and I love it. FBO IS38 right now. This thing is a blast.

My 2020 gli w 8k miles is supposed to be mine next week. So excited. Big upgrade over my 2012 malibu😂

A DSG tune resolves all of those shifting qualms, and after 6500rpm, it's not within the full power range, it starts to taper off.

Loving that ssk005! just seem like great bang for the buck

I have a 2020 dsg model and the transmission is my biggest complaint. Will be getting the APR DSG reflash on the 2023 model once they become more available. Been waiting 4+ months for my order. The tires are trash. I threw them out the first year I owned my car. They don't help out the great suspension setup. Put some pilot sport 4s on and the car corners as it should.

speculation, but newer vehicles don't let you go above a certain rpm because the engine isn't broken in yet. Some cars don't let you go above 4k rpm until 1 or 2k miles on the odometer

Jettas work best on Maxxis Victra Sport 5 tyres. I have them on my BMW 330i M Sport M Performance sedan. They are awesome and really reasonable in price.

It's odd for VW to sportify the Jetta with the GLI treatment, but the auto appears to be sporty in name only. Very odd indeed, but great informative video!

A little disappointed that they ditched the base spec GLI. I had a 2020 GLI S w/ 5-Speed Manual and it was an excellent value for the money. As someone that had a long commute at the time, it returned really great fuel mileage and was comfortable over long trips. When I wanted to drive it aggressively it was a lot of fun with the manual trans. I bought a set of OEM take-off Golf R wheels and put some Conti Extreme Contact Sports on it, that really solved the issues with the cheap all-seasons that it came with. I still think with the only-Autobahn trim for this year, it still offers great value but would have liked to see a cheaper option for those that didn't mind a more basic trim.

@francescomaimone8865

Жыл бұрын

Glad you finally said to get the manual version if folks want the manual driving experience. No automatics can truly replicate the manual driving experience, which is a very personal one that varies by person.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

I didn't want the GLI Autobahn because of LED screen and sunroof. Thanks to explosives overseas I get headaches too easily and the sunroof adds weight for a function I don't like. I would have just preferred the GLI S had leather seat option and that little extra in suspension system the Autobahn gets over the S. But, I'm still very satisfied with my purchase (had it since last November after waiting 6 months for factory order).

Matt, I normally like your videos but this one you were off base. I'm looking at this car as a daily driver, not as an HPDE track car.

15:32 I don't mind that. I don't have kids. I put my dog in the back with a seat cover with flaps that cover the doors as well. The doors in the rear don't need to be as "nice" and saves money for the person behind the steering wheel.

It’s weird because my gti has the steering wheel buttons that you can actually press but they’re also sliding haptics. Never had a single complaint or accidental button press in 15,000 miles.

I’m intrigued by these as a cheap daily driver that’s semi fun to drive never even sat in one just always loved the look

@lucasschmitz4588

Жыл бұрын

Vw golfs and jettas especially now are great dailys plus with a few upgrades and a tune they can be rather fast aswell

@MrWhitePerson

Жыл бұрын

30k is cheap?

@lucasschmitz4588

Жыл бұрын

@@MrWhitePerson for bramd new yes considering a 2018 golf gti is 23k aont bad either

@nathanstuart2215

6 ай бұрын

hmitz4588

@nathanstuart2215

6 ай бұрын

​I AGREE it's not cheap. I think it will be like that. I don't see them selling them for less money. I might buy it. I don't want to become a slave to the bank.

We have a 2019 GLI in black with a touch over 40,000 miles and have had no issues. We love the car still and enjoy driving it.

@christophcollier

Жыл бұрын

How do you put 40k miles in 3 years?

@tgrainwater

Жыл бұрын

@@christophcollier By commuting to work five days a week.

@christophcollier

Жыл бұрын

@@tgrainwater I might not have a point of reference but would that be a 30 miles each way?

@tgrainwater

Жыл бұрын

@@christophcollier Sounds about right; it’s also our vehicle of choice for most road trips. We like the car. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I drive a minimum of 120 miles a day 5 days a week. The ending of your video definitely has me looking at the other cars you compared to at the end of your video. Nice review.

Shoulda moved shifter to the right so paddles dont auto ip n downshift

@marcdinsmore8690

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Sport mode is sport auto, not manual mode.

Seems like a good competitor to my Mazda6 with the Turbo. The DSG is probably much more responsive

This power drops off in these cars above 5500 rpm. In stock form there is no reason to rev over 6k so I don't see the problem with the dsg shifting at 6300 automatically. This can also all be disabled with a tune.

They changed the DSG programming in 2018 when they went to the 7 speed. The 2017 GTI sport I had allowed full manual control plus would hold revs to redline, it was wonderful especially with sticky tires and a rear swaybar! As mentioned, there are transmission tunes available to fix this. But man its inexcusable why they would ruin the experience.

@scrutch666

Жыл бұрын

Really loved my 2018 gti dsg but when i came to the redlight in manual mode and even in some situations in auto mode i had this hick ups and it was not smooth in downshifting at low speeds before coming to a halt. Maybe it was my input failure but that was something i never really got used to.

@Chris-qe6qr

Жыл бұрын

Because of emission regulations I imagine

@RCSonicjet

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense. We had a 2020 Jetta SEL with the 8 speed and traded the lease in early for a smoking deal on a 22 Taos SEL with the 7 speed DSG and Matt here has fully articulated my feelings on the DSG. Simply makes zero sense in the car to use anything but S or D. I actually prefer the 8 speed slush's manual mode. Had way more freedom.

@MaxiimTribe

Жыл бұрын

nothing a tune cant fix and if you're not tuning there are probably better options for you

@etonthompson5175

Жыл бұрын

Transmission tunes could void the warranty.

Attempt number 5 (I think) of identifying Matt's watch of the day : Seiko SSK005 , new-ish GMT model for the 5 sports line , this exact model features an eye catching orange dial. I personally have been thinking of getting this exact watch.

@rpitneyjr

Жыл бұрын

I wish he would say what he's wearing in these.

@negahplz1156

Жыл бұрын

Same!

@anonymoussoap8310

Жыл бұрын

@@rpitneyjr He said on the watchandlisten podcast that people on the TST podcast complain when they talked about watches on there. So that's probably why.

@rpitneyjr

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymoussoap8310 Bummer!

I would buy a CPO Volvo S60 for that price. It may not have the sporty intent however the double wishbone front suspension makes it a fluid handling sedan.

Nice to see the focus on how it drives after all it’s a car not a living room

The discontinued GLI-S base package with the 6-speed manual at $27,500 was the bargain. The car does everything really well.

I'd be interested in hearing your review of this car in a 6 speed manual. I didn't think the DSG would be such a disappointment to you. Although many GTi owners seem to to think highly of them. I have an MKV GLI in 6 spd and with the right mods, this car has a lot of potential. It actually transforms the car from being a regular family sedan with some sporty character into a budget like Audi A4 in my opinion. This car makes good power with a software tune and a turbo back exhaust. Throw on a set of KW coilovers and a nice set of 18/19" wheels with good rubber and it's becomes a very fun car to drive.

@dubsessed9790

Жыл бұрын

Little closer to a budget A3, but fair point.

@_dmfd

Жыл бұрын

The DSG is great for a consumer level dual clutch. The issues are mainly with the weird shift points, and clunky creeping but all DCTs feel clunky. Ford & Hyundai have dry DCT systems and they are horrible. The DSG is better forsure but overall the Mk7 MQB platform is disappointing and feels super cheap for $35k

@JT-fq2bl

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai have both wet & dry DCT.

@_dmfd

Жыл бұрын

@@JT-fq2bl yes their new 8spd is waaaaaaaay better than their 7spd dry DCT. I've had both.

@SonOfTheDawn515

Жыл бұрын

I like the DSG with paddles in the MK7. I love sticks but my back injuries/problems plus a move to a hilly state with snow pushed me over. It's more efficient and is quite responsive. No complaints.

I'm work in the auto inspection field and if the glass goes past the front seats, it's generally considered panoramic. I agree, doesn't make sense.

The first thing I always do with my vdubs are new tires! 👍

that 5 gmt looks damn good with that orange dia

I could've sworn in my GTI Autobahn that as long as you were in sport or the custom setting with sport drivetrain it wouldn't auto upshift while in manual. I wonder if something changed since then? I had a 2016 gti

@eddieru

Жыл бұрын

i think they changed it in the 2018 gli when they went with the 7 speed. is your car a 7 speed dsg? the 6 speed in my mk6 gli doesn’t auto you shift

Lol 5.7 seconds 0-60 DSG. I'd love to see that. I haven't found anyone on KZread getting less than 6.5 with summer tires and launch control. The average is prob higher than that. When you hear these low 0--60, just add a second and that's what you really get. and I mean best case scenario with summers on. That goes for almost any car tho. I'm not knocking on the car tho. I just ordered one for a 4 year lease. 2024 GLI DSG black. Planning to wrap the red bumper vents in black. I cross shopped with the Subaru WRX auto, but didn't like the CVT among other things. And the Acura TLX A Spec. The Acura is fantastic inside and out. Only negatives is it's not too fast, about same as GLI, difficult to use infotainment system, and lack of rear headroom (anyone over 5'8 will have their head rubbing the ceiling). But I went with the GLI cuz it was better value. Cheaper, much better on gas, cheaper insurance, and just as fun to drive, if not more.

@deus555

3 ай бұрын

It's a fun car to drive with great brakes but the launch control is garbage. It revs up to 6500, tires spin, screech and squeal like crazy before it starts to move.. It needs all wheel drive.

Did you put the car in manual before shifting? Or did you just shift? At Audi, if you simply shift, the car is still in semi-automatic. It will also shift back to D when you stop. To get rid of this, you can use the M mode instead.

@kmuck8677

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Matt would know this by now and if he said manual mode he means manual mode.

I’ve always liked the GLI!

Take the car into ESC sport mode and you can rev it pretty much the way you want, but with the E888 there's no real point to redlining it - all this engine makes over 6,000 rpm is noise. This car lives between 2000-5500 rpm - same for every other similar turbo engine. I don't know why this person got so exercised about it.

@scorber23

5 ай бұрын

I know .. I never see anyone reviewing this car 'know' about the ESC Sport setting (traction control) < also the mode demanded to engage Launch Control

Anyone hate the seats ? I had a 2019 gli and really loved the car. I hated the seats on long trips

hope to see a Toyota GR Corolla review soon!

unfortunatly even though it sucks that this is a new car, a 500$ DSG specific tune will really fix every single complaint that was mentioned. (i mean while ur at the tuner you might as well be putting on a stage 1 flash ecu at the same time lol

Oh the reason the paddle shifter auto upshift before redline is because theyr no point in going to redline; the engine makes less power closer to redline so you get the best performance at 6200rpms and below(remember peak torque is 1500rpms and ~~~peak hp is ab 4800-5800rpms! U get the fastest accelleration shiting at about 6k. Also the engine itself has a lot of desighn features of that of a diesel engine(which makes power down low which is part of why its so torquey down low and also why its tcu is tuned to shift low in normal driving because of epa fuel standards

I own this car and love it. Slide the gear shifter to the right and use that as opposed to the paddles it will automatically downshift but never automatically upshift. I have never even used the paddles because I knew how bad they were in the Fusion I had before it and I just don’t trust paddles. Definitely needed better tires they slip all the time especially when it’s wet even if you’re not trying to get on it. Other than that ZERO complaints. The automatic transmission definitely sticks a gear higher than I would like but when you step on it she doesn’t hesitate to get nasty. Everyone complains about the “plastic” but it’s not like it’s cheap or shitty every person that’s looked at the interior thought it looks cool as shit. The thing you don’t get is the ambient lighting inside. The colors are dope as hell man!

Hankook tires suck honestly. Slapped DWS06+ tires and its like a different car! Biggest question is...what are the dealer markups on these, at 32k this is a great freaking car! Think about it, there is nothing at this price point that offers this much options. No honda or toyota sub 35k offers a DSG, a diff, cooled seats and memory seats, and 250ish horsepower.

@ADHski

Жыл бұрын

even better at 23k in 2019 ;)

being in a gear higher would drive me crazy better to get a elantra or Kona N or get this in manual

I looked into buying a Jetta GLI to replace my 2018 GTI. I bout an Audi A3 instead. I’m happy with my decision.

To fix the gearbox problem shifting early, couldn’t you just get a DSG tune?

@scorber23

5 ай бұрын

Yes. Many amazing TCU tunes make this DSG even faster/crisper and allows for full manual mode, auto shifting disengaged with 7k+ redline shifting + temp control ect. IE Integrated Engineering has an amazing ECU and TCU tune for this Mk7 EA888

I agree re: canyon performance. I’m no stunt guy but have been driving the mountains in and around Mendocino County CA for work - and they are wonderful roads for canyon driving. I have the ‘21 Autobahn 6MT so have full control over shifting and that’s sweet! However the tires don’t even give you ability to do 7/10ths (at least with my skill level) - you definitely feel the tires struggling around tight turn-in’s on any kind of sharp gradient. So my plan - wear out these hankooks over the next year or so (thankfully I’m mostly a city/highway driver) and then get good tires and a stage 1 tune. Otherwise this is a very pleasant car to drive and haul people in. I paid just under $30k - so a full set of tires and a tune gets me up to about $32k; which to me is a good bargain! BTW - I think the Elantra looks hideous, does not have ventilated seats (necessary for CA IMHO), and no sunroof! - dealbreaker for me. I can basically spend 2k and exceed Elantra power and torque and still come out cheaper.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

You won’t be faster than an Elantra N buddy, not even close. I say this as someone who hates those over rated turds. They ugly as hell and have poop reliability but the Elantra N is fast as hell for a 4cyl. The GLI is simply out classed in performance at this time. Hopefully VW will bump that HP significantly to make this car relevant again.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

Honestly this cars gears are long as hell. Wonder if you can just get a larger final drive, that would completely transform the performance without sacrificing any reliability.

@omariwest9068

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho - with stage 1 GLI makes 298 while Elantra is 276. Thé thing that makes Elantra faster is DSG does not auto-up shift like GLI - but since I have a manual it’s a non-issue. GLI manual + tune beats Elantra manual.

@carado1984

Жыл бұрын

Elantra can be tuned with the same 2k.

@omariwest9068

Жыл бұрын

@@carado1984 - true but then it’s still more expensive and has fewer creature comforts. Plus it’s hideous-looking….