Listen and subscribe to The Money with Katie Show: link.chtbl.com/ltuYlpzQ Huge shout-out to Morning Brew for sponsoring and making this video possible! Do support this community by tapping on the pod link above! On a more *personal* note, I hope you enjoyed this new vid format. I added more personal touches that'd be more fun to watch for you. Some future videos, I'll be doing a *realistic* day in my life as a product manager, a complete desk makeover + tour (bc you know it's a mess here), and a vlog on some of the really cool things I've been up to. Come through the discord community for everyday conversations! discord.gg/colorsofchloe 💖 💖

The: “I’m going into work and feeling like there’s no winning”, hits so hard. I’ve said this exact thing myself. Being a PO has cost me my confidence and I have no trust in my own opinion anymore. My boss said that being a PO feels like you have a target on your back. I really appreciate your content Chloe xx

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

😭😭 i knowwww it's such a hard feeling to overcome. it ebbs and flows. hoping you have an upwards trajectory with your work!!

@utamu777

2 жыл бұрын

This all day. I’m burned out and my confidence has taken severe hits.

@playing1997

Жыл бұрын

What’s a po?

@connection7405

10 ай бұрын

I relate so badly to this... I hate this job 😢

@intotheAnnieverse

10 ай бұрын

purchase order ... jk 🤣@@playing1997

I'm glad you're talking about the less glorified parts of the job :) I think a lot of the stress and overtime pressure comes with any leadership role, and I really like how Kristin emphasized that leadership is not just having power. What a great video Chloe!! Can't wait to see more from you 💖

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

aashna!! i know D: there are def a lot of not glamorous parts of the job and a lot of it is more of an art than a science. i get real peeved when people argue that PMs don't do anything, but it takes a lot of change management that's incredibly exhausting in tech. so glad you enjoyed the video, aashna! appreciate your comment!! 💖

Hey Chloe! After 6 months of applying and countless interviews, I received and accepted an offer for my first product position as an APM at an awesome company. I really wanted to thank you and let you know that your videos helped me tremendously. I'm really looking forward to what else you have in store :)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

OMG TOMMY!! CONGRATSSSSSS!! FIRST APM ROLE!! I am so STOKED for you!! Your team is incredibly lucky to have you. :)

@vasudhasharma9004

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tommy, where do you do a certificate related to Product management?

I love seeing you highlight the ladies in PM. It’s really refreshing and makes me feel I’ve found my people. The most difficult part of being a PM for me is leading with influence without authority. I’m responsible for leading the charge on a product but don’t officially manage the day to day tasks of those I work with. Asserting yourself in this way can be so intimidating when you’re new and/or (frankly) female. I’ve had to learn over the years to lean into my ability and right to say no and prepare myself to defend my reasons behind that no often.

Hey Chloe! As a Product Manager everytime I feel like I'm not doing enough, I watch this video. It makes me feel like I'm not the only one who feels this way. Thanks for uploading this! :D

@radioactiveood

Жыл бұрын

Hi Niharika.. congratulations on your role :) du have any tips and ticks for this role? Ty!

Hello Chloe, thank you for all the videos you have made about PM career paths, that make me feel so related and have the strength to move on with this position. I always think that I have struggled in this position because I don't good enough for this. It is great to know that all the things I have struggled with are the thing all the PMs have

I absolutely think that having passion, a real invested interest in the product, is so important to the role and your mental health. Wishing the best to all of you!

finally a video that tells what I'm actually experiencing and i love that you never gatekeep!!

Congrats on the Morning Brew sponsorship! Been subscribed to them for years and love them! Also thanks for showing the not-so-glamorous aspects of your job! Not enough people do that!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Yay!! I know! Their platform is really helpful. They were *incredible* to work with. And yes haha I think people tend to overglorify a lot of tech and there's not enough reality checks. Don't want people feeling like they've made the worst decision!

I really like your transparency and you talking about how it is in the industry to be a PM especially as a BIPOC female. I liked that you incorporated different opinions and insights on the job. I am rooting for you and I hope you continue to push through your hardships.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

so glad you liked the guest features, juju!! i feel like these product leaders i've included today are incredibly talented and phenomenal. i know my experience is only so small. gotta help get people's stories out there!

Love this content! As a new CX PM in digital this is all so helpful. I’ve worked so hard to get into PM and it is so crazy!! Love it, but managing ur day to day is so critical

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hi nancy!! woo cx pm!! so wonderful. it is really crazy and i don't always manage my day perfectly (ahem like today *_*). then i usually just try to make it up by some late night or weekend work. not the best, but i'm working on it!

This video made me subscribe to your channel. I am into product management and I sometimes I felt I was the only one going through the challenges you mentioned. It feels good that I am not the only one going through all these challenges. THANKYOU!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

aww i'm so glad to hear!! hope you're not going through too many of the challenges right now though. keep it up!

Hey Chloe! Love the transparency in all your content. As someone going into tech / product management out of college, one of the things I thought about a lot (and still grapple with) is ethics in tech. Especially since tech has disproportionately large impact on the rest of the world, I'm curious to know how others navigate the various ethical decisions they have to make throughout their career. Although they don't have control of everything, I feel like PMs have more power and responsibility than most to ensure integrity/ethics when it comes to their work. Do you think you could do a video where you interview some of your friends/mentors to speak on the topic? (e.g. which companies / products would people not want to work on? what do you do when someone suggests something unethical? how would a PM evaluate whether or not a feature, product, company, etc. is good or bad for society?)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hiya timothy!! aww glad you enjoy the transparency! ethics is definitely a big question because there are lots of very "predatory" products out there. i know a lot of tech talent don't work at those companies because of a mismatch in values and ethics, but they're definitely hotly debated. those who do have unethical practices are usually those who are talked about and therefore have more visibility, which can be really helpful many times. i think there are a few components to your question: 1. what are your thoughts on joining a company with unethical practices? 2. what are your thoughts on product suggestions that have potentially unethical consequences? the first question is pretty straight-forward - it's mostly a values check. the second question is way more common. i used to work in trust and safety at tiktok, and we would tackle all the ethics questions. we had a digital wellbeing team that made sure we allow tiktok to have great content but not become overly addicted to it, hence why there's the pop up video that tells you to go to take a break when you swipe too long. i think this is a great topic you're bringing up! i may have some of those PMs on my future videos to talk about ethics!

@tim_huang

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih Yay thank you so much for the thoughtful response! Definitely looking forward to more conversations out in the open, but of course everyone will have different values and perspectives. I would love to know how others have navigated conversations about ethics in the workplace, because my biggest fear is saying something is potentially unethical and then getting a target on my back for speaking up 💀 Thank you again for all your amazing content and love how you champion BIPOC people in tech!

I LOVED THIS VIDEO, Chloeee

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Annie!! Awww THANK YOU!! I'm so glad T_T I don't really have a creative background, so it takes a lot of care and craft for me to get the *vibes* down right haha. It's been an artistic journey!! So glad you like it! Motivates me to keep doing better! :D

I could relate to so many of the things you mentioned - constantly filled DMs, back-to-back meetings and ALWAYS feeling behind. Hectic. But it's always good to know you're not the only one experiencing something. It's easy to think you must be doing something wrong when you're in your own bubble. So thanks for sharing. I'm a PM in a fintech by the way.

@somiladayile9094

2 жыл бұрын

@Jeneé Murphy Great transition options. I've come across a few Business analyst who have transitioned into Product Management so I think that's awesome. All the best. Don't let the pressure derail you. If you still feel a sense of conviction to pursue PM after gathering all your information, then go for it. It's always worth pursuing our dreams.

THANK YOU! I have just discovered you but you are like the friend I needed, with good conversation, good quality content,

Great video! Great to see the reality and less glamourous side of Product being explained. It’s super hard, super stressful and often hard to keep motivated and not go crazy 😂

Can't wait to see what you guys will do next! It is so wholesome, informative and encouraging!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

MrT!! haha yes i've always got so many videos lined up. so glad you enjoy this format and vibe!!

As a former project coordinator at an IT company I felt that "...fighting for my importance" Also watching this vid reminded me why I stepped away from this career. the anxiety levels! Especially when the imposter syndrome kicks in. I knew it wouldn't be good for my mental health in the future

Thanks for sharing your perspective, this really adds value for us. I would also urge you to make a video on what kind of business English you use while conversing with your team and cross functional teams, common jargons and terminologies which one should be familiar with in order to get an entry level PM job.

I agree with everything that you and your network said. 100%. (Not to mention I've noticed compared to my friends who are SWEs it takes a lot longer for you to get direct reports under you in PM roles so you sometimes feel like you're falling behind.) Generally, PMs have basically all the responsibility to piece everything together for a successful launch but none of the authority to demand results. I probably spend like 40%+ of my day negotiating different elements, arguing what is and is not MVP, when we or another team can deliver something by, etc. The remainder is literally spent looking at decks/documentation, creating documentation, or keeping an eye out to ensure my team doesn't get blindsided by a sudden change in another team's timeline, a sudden drop in prioritization, architecture shifts, etc. My mentor told me the role of a PM is basically you are like oil. You make sure everything runs smoothly and you fit yourself into every nook and cranny that is important.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

omg yesss!! it's so much harder for PMs to get promoted too and there's far less management positions. from the groups of professionals i've seen, most PMs are pretty qualified to go into management (vs the SWE masses tbh). i've had a lot of swe friends who went into management super early and it made me feel horrrribbbllleee. D: "arguing what is and what is not MVP" - literally story of my life LOL. it's like "is this a now thing or a later thing?" and that decision changes and it sucks xD if you know any mandarin at all, i think it's appropriate to say 加油 (add oil!)

@jason4584

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih lol. No Mandarian for me. Though it's nice to hear about others who have the same struggles and validation. The other most important thing my mentor told me that she said separates really good pms from okay ones was: "There will be days when you will literally know nothing. It's okay to not know everything. Become comfortable not knowing everything (She told me a lot of people are terrified of taking ANY action because they aren't 100% confident and by the time they are the opportunity for action and value has passed). When those moments happen (and they will happen), just breathe, be fluid, and be willing to learn or find out the answer." I've been trucking along now for several years using this as my guide post and professional mantra for my pm career and its somehow works every time. Lol.

Loved the new content &how you blended PM and personal updates, guest contributions and beautiful design elements overlays 💖 Agree with schedules being hectic in product 🥺 Also Oatly (barista edition) is my go to for iced lattes sooo creamy!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

alex!! aww so glad. i'm glad you enjoy the blended content format. i really wanted to try something more personal and fun to watch instead of an info dump. even though it was a longer video, i hope it felt short and sweet! pm schedules are so hectic. x_x it takes me so much effort to figure out when i can take time off ahh. and YES I LOVE OATLY ICED MATCHA LATTES. seriously my favorite thing on earth right now.

@alexandrammr

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih yesss, I actually enjoyed the length since it was really varied ☺️ on the time off, I agree and sometimes when you take time off and come back it's even more stressful with what is waiting for you when you're back. More people should subscribe to the Oatly matcha lattes fandom 🍵❤️

Love this Video! Thank you for being open & sharing your insights!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

so glad you enjoy the video, truc!

Hey Chloe! Awesome video and great hair

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Hi veeny! Aww I’m so glad to hear!! You’re truly reppin’ us out there haha. I’m soooo happy that this community is your safe space for stem girlies. I’m really trying to build that on all my platforms, so am totally open to ideas you have in making the community better!

Omg thanks so much for making this video! I feel that this paints a realistic picture of PMs! I have cried a handful of times, worked late until 11 in the evening, and been chewed out for a PRD that wasn’t good enough (even though I spent a lot of time on it)…you really have to have tough skin as a PM.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

:( girllll i def feel ya on that. it happens pretty often, but we kinda just have to roll with the punches. it takes a lot of thick skin for sure!!

Another amazing video, Chloe. Really insightful, honest, transparent and helpful. Lots of work goes in to these videos, so appreciate you busting your a$$ to produce content for us, when you're already manic in the day job. Well the day&night job more specifically. You're awesome, and love your content!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! So glad you enjoyed! And yes these videos take a lotttt of time to craft together. Thank you for sharing your appreciation for them!! 😊😊

Love the transparency and human toll of “sweet jobs”

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

i know!! i mean it still can be sweet if you operate it well, but for the most part, i think this role is pretty stressful x_x

This video was EXTREMELY helpful! Thanks Chloe

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

so glad to hear it, keenan!! :D

Just jumped from TPM (after 3 years as SWE) to Senior PM starting 4/13 - love this and your channel!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

oooohhh congrats!!! :D that's so awesome! excited for you to start!

thanks for all of the PM details. nice to see my favorite internet co-worker is holding up well despite the occasional stress. and the blonde coloring came out very nice :)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hahah yasss favorite internet CHLO-WORKER!! :D and i know! the blonde is such a new color on me. trying to rock it the best i can with white and beige outfits. my hair stylist said i gotta dress *chic*. forgot how much changing your hair color also changes your wardrobe.

Ah Chloe your channel is the best! 😍 I love how you don’t glorify PM life and really just lay out the facts :D I’m currently searching for my first full time PM role (in Germany where it’s still earlyish but also quite competitive) and it’s not easy. But I’m sticking with it and your video showed me that I’m doing it for the right reasons (but also gave me a big reality check haha). Thank you for your great content 🌞✨

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Katharina!! So glad you enjoy them!! I’m super glad these videos help anchor your “why” when pursuing this path. Love that for you!! Thanks for sharing where you’re at as well!! And lmk if there’s other types of videos you’d like to see :)

@katharinaalf

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih aww thank you for your lovely reply! I'd love to see a video about saying 'no' as a PM. Like to feature requests, stakeholders, etc. because I feel like that's a big part of the job :D And one about 'What to do in the first 30 days in a company as a PM' :)

this was spot on about PM life! love the vid thx Chloe!

I am so happy that I came across your channel. I took a leap of faith by enrolling in a product management certification class. The transparency you’ve provided; the good and the bad has assured me even more that I made the right decision. Continue on with your success and know that you’re absolutely killing it! :)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

ollie!! so glad this is helping you make the right decision! and really appreciate your comment here!! ahh so happy for you embarking on this new journey too!

Thank you Chloe for this video! I love this content helping us interested in PM

Thank you Chloe for the video it has definitely fired me up!!

Jaclyn is a badass PM; always a great joy to work with her. Really surprised to see her show up on your channel, but it's really great to know that great PMs are connected to each other.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

omg!! i'm definitely showing her your comment. i absolutely LOVE jaclyn.

Glad to know it's not just me. I had one 'mental breakdown' moments as PM. It often feels like you are holding the whole world on your shoulders. Fortunately I love uplifting people, teaching people and resolving issues. At the end of the day, if someone loves those things...it will still be hella hard, but rewarding. Awesome vid Chloe! Side Note: Iced Matcha with Oat Milk Creamer (I used an Oatmeal Cookie and a Vanilla) is dope and no extra sweetening ☺️

I'm in a PM role right now I don't think it's ever possible to feel "good enough". The complexity just keeps adding on but i've learned to kinda take a breath and realize that I'll never be on top of every detail. As long as I can get a gauge on what really matters to the directors/VPs and focus my weight on that to drive it, I haven't had any problems

@eo8430

Жыл бұрын

Hi there. So I'm trying to figure out who bears more responsibility between a po and a scrum master. And which is less hectic. Your thoughts? With your experience ...could you please throw some light on this?

I love your channel so much!!! Keep it up please!!!!! 🎉🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🥰😍

I'm a software engineer who doesn't want to be a PM, but I wanted a glimpse into what our PMs go through. So glad I found this channel 😊 I also watch Mayuko so that probably had something to do with it

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

haha yes mayuko's community definitely comes over quite a bit! i appreciate every single one of you :)

You're killing it Chloe! Slay

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

thank you bokchoy

The hair color looks really good on you!

As a PM myself I love your efforts to make your private life more enjoyable. I think I need to convince myself that there is also life outside of “Product”.

It’s true! This role is brutal… I dream of retiring even if I’m only 4 years in. 😫

@fraffeetan9395

2 жыл бұрын

4 years in omg I salute you sir 💯 stay strong

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

same cid. same. 😂😂

@vegahw

2 жыл бұрын

@@fraffeetan9395 Thank you! It’s rough out here for sure, especially as a woman.

@tanvia.d5331

Жыл бұрын

Same here 😢

Content quality / minute superbly high - thanks Chloe.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

aww thanks aakash! glad you appreciate the production quality!

YASSSS, CHLOE. I like problem-solving i really love you hi from Mexico. I could relate a lot to you! please upload more videos like this :) I thought I was the only one feeling like this

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

will definitely do my best!!

@jessicalopez2162

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih thank you for replying. You're an amazing person

Love the video! I’d really like to hear more about your thoughts/challenges with work life balance as a PM and any tips or reality checks you’d have in that department!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hi emma! so glad you enjoy the video! and oo so basically productivity tips for work? or like ways to prioritize my to do list in my work week? lmk if you have more specific questions so i can craft the best video for ya!

@emmablue7669

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih productivity tips and any suggestions you have for setting boundaries around work while still being a high performer! Thanks for the reply 🥰

Thanks for sharing the unpretty parts of working in tech and consulting Chloe. I’m working towards a PM role and a lot of times I lose confidence and feel like I should just quit before I mess up bigtime. This makes me feel less alone.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

aww jan!! i'm so sorry to hear about how work is going right now. it's honestly super hard and i hope that the company you're at has a culture of being allowed to make mistakes but learning from them fast. it should be okay to fail as long as we learn. it's so hard to predict how people will react to product. heck, i barely even know how people would react to my youtube videos. hope you're able to build a strong product intuition every day!

Omg!! So interesting that you worked on Facebook Groups. I run multiple communities on Facebook and being a community manager has been a huge part of my life ❤️

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

awww amazing!! love hearing it!! thanks for running so many wonderful online communities :)

This is really helpful :) ty

im preparing for my first entry role as a product designer and watching this video about the role of managers is like my way of thinking 10 steps ahead haha :)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

ayyeee let's go julie!! 👏👏 winner mentality haha

6:07 immediately recognised the Singaporean accent hehe Thanks for this video. I'm in a completely unrelated field (healthcare) but still love your vids!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah amazing! Yes the SG accent!!

Good to see someone really showing the other sides.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

yeah - there are definitely lots of different types of experiences

Aww good thing I found this video. I just got contacted by a fintech company out of the blue to interview me for a PM position. I have no experience with product before, having worked in sales and marketing for the past few years. I'm at the "I'm confused but sure let's go for it" stage in the interview process since they just made me do a product case design. Thank you for sharing what PM work is like! I don't know the outcome of the interview yet but it made me interested to pursue it even if ! don't know much about it.

@samnur6957

Жыл бұрын

what happened?

@eo8430

Жыл бұрын

Did you get the job?

@eo8430

Жыл бұрын

And what was the product case design discussed at the interview?

Thanks for the video! I have a question. Is it true that PM don't have to code, but what tech skills/topics do they need to learn in order to understand a conversation with tech people?

Yes to a video focused on a look into example PM interview questions!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Haha omg that will be a beast of a video to produce, but it’s on my list! The interviews are def pretty complicated. Not sure how to best pack the information into a 10 min video 😩😩 will figure out how to best package this all for y’all!

Hi Chloe I absolutely love your videos. Do you have any resources or thoughts on UX Analysts? I am interested in pm but want to keep my options open since I’m a new grad. Please let me know! :)

This helped me a lot, thanks

Waiting for your Day in your Work Life !! I am motivated by your content, I stumbled upon your page going through each of your video, and regret why didn't I find you earlier :( I am new to this family, Hoping to learn and contribute some ! *Happy Vibes*

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

it's coming out tomorrow, supraja!! i'm editing it right now!!! :D and aww thanks for finding my channel. i'm a budding creator, so hope the youtube algorithm will share my videos out to people like you!

always such great qual content... thanks for all the effort chlo! appreciate it even tho i'm not a pm XD

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

stella!! haha omg glad to know that non-pms like the content too. would love to hear what else you're interested in seeing on my channel too! i wanted to expand beyond career videos around product as well!

@fireystella

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih i'm a sweeee (weee~, or not, lol).. ur vibes are like the older cool + cute (woo!) sister in tech who works hard and tries hard to find balance~ while trying to build a successful career i enjoy the career vids but I also enjoy the non-career vlogging/bf/chill day content too! maybe you have a good way of allowing us in to the ups n downs of ur life? :o

Loooooove the money with Katie show!!! Get after that financial freedom ladies! You are getting some cool sponsors!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

YAY!! I'M SO GLAD!! us ladies gotta SECURE THAT BAGGGG

Chloe, I love your content! I am a budding KZreadr too and your content is super inspiring!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

yay i'm so glad!!

Awesome video as always Chloe! It's cool you're trying diff hair color...I personally like your natural hair color...just a thought. ☺️ Thank you for your amazing vidoes & honesty! 🥳🙌👏🙏💛

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

yeahhh i think i'm still not used to it haha. it'll go back to light brown very soon since my roots are quickly growing out!

@mariamas.3312

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. :)

Love this video, Chlooo ❤️

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

thank you fraffee!! are you also a PM / aspiring PM? :o

@fraffeetan9395

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih Worked in a product team up until recently and was an aspiring PM back then :D Now I'm back in the Community team in our tech startup.

You have a sweet voice and seem so genuine.

Hey Chloe, you have knowledge about different tech companies, would you like to share the different toolset these companies are using, like what do they use for management, what do they use to write PRD, what do they use to communicate and have meetings? I love your videos a lot!

I’m in college majoring in Accounting but want to do PM. Are there internships I could do to allow me to get a better chance at gaining the first job after college?

Great video!

thank you!!! 🥰

Hey Chloe! - I discovered you in my KZread recommended a few weeks ago and I’m a new fan of your content! I’ve noticed you have a lot of incredible mentors. I would love a video on how to find mentors in tech and specifically product!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

welcome to my channel! :D ah yes i get this question quite a bit but haven't found the best way to share the information. will def do a mentor video! thanks for dropping the suggestion!

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️being a Data Engineer, I see there’s a lot for me to experience in tech❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Chloe thank you so much for making these videos! They are so helpful! I loved that you mentioned the writing part - we PMs do write a lotttttt 😂 I was wondering whether you could make a video on best practices in writing PRDs / Briefs, and readouts? That would be so helpful!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

PMs write SOOOO much!! oh yeah i do get a lot of questions around briefs and PRDs. i'm not too sure how to put that into a 10 min youtube video o_o might not end up being a video on this channel. D: but will figure out the best way to share!

@kiraugai8127

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih 😭🙌🏼 thank you for thinking about this!!!!!!!!! Appreciate you! You’ve helped me through some dark times and inspired me to make some changes 💕♥️

Hi Chloe, I am a PO for nearly 3 years now and I'm planning to apply for a remote position in developing countries like Canada, US, UK,... My question is, should I become a certified PO (with PSPO, CSPO, POPM,...)? Thank you very much and hope you can make a short video on this.

@eo8430

Жыл бұрын

Hi....was wondering which to pick so i did some research on the top most recognised certs. CSPO seems to be quite popular with employers on many job platforms. The Scrum Alliance certs are globally accepted. However you have to renew and upgrade after a couple years. So you might wanna go for others if you do not want this stress. My 2 cents.

great video! does the product manager ultimately decide what gets built?

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

it's definitely an art, but the pm owns the product roadmap and is responsible for moving the team towards a product vision

Actually would love the pm interview video🥺, but take ur time tho 💜💜

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

i know!! haha this is the golden video for sure. it will be a beast of a video for me to put together D: thank you for your patience!

Thank you !

please continue your product podcast!!

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

like the one on spotify?? or do you mean continue this format with guests? :o

Could you share your work hours as a PM in big tech ( daily/ weekly); looking for something of the format 40 hrs a week usually, 80 when we are on a sprint/ release and 60 on high work weeks. (Just starting my first official PM role, kinda nervous :c)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Just posted my day in the life video on this channel!! Hope that's helpful!!

whats the best tech job if you want a chill job? Is it devops?

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

Ooof I have no idea. I think it’s a combination of your role, your personality, the company, and your team.

I just started as a PO and I’m stressed because I don’t understand what I need to be doing a lot of a time. But being a PM sounds like hell😅

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

haha omg it definitely is quite a lot of work, but once you have the hang of your product, you'll have a much easier time knowing the most needle-moving things to do.

😱 --> my actual face when I saw my comment on your Insta got featured in this video. I ran to show my husband like "Chloe shows my comment in her video" and he laughed and said "No way". #FanGirlMoment 😂

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

OMG YESSSS HALLOOOOO

what is the best university degree for this occupation?

I have no interest in becoming a PM but I really enjoy watching your videos about this position. To be honest, there's no amount of money that would make me work after hours. I'd rather take a pay cut and have a life because life is too short to spend working overtime.

What is the job title of a non-executive Product Manager role that we could experience it for a few years before being promoted to Product Manager?

i don’t have a PM on my team and i’ve always been curious what they do, thanks for making me realize my manager is basically a pm and a software engineer lol. his life must be busy

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

his life must certainly be very busy haha

Have been a product manager for almost 3 years and I still have this imposter syndrome every.single.time.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

the struggle is SO REAL!

i personally think that getting into product management is way easier than any kind of engineering career. and there's not even much competition, there's not even an Instagram category for a product manager YET.

Is this intensity more in relation to working at larger scale tech companies like discord, spotify or tiktok?

@chloeshih

5 ай бұрын

i think this is too hard to generalize - it was actually insanely stressful working at a startup as well. some people say 1 year at a startup is like 5 years at a big tech company. it truly depends on whether you're on a growth team that has high visibility and running on little resources. working on something 0->1 and having to prove impact within the same half is also very stressful. really depends on your project, visibility, manager, and how you've been onboarded or set up for success!

💯 % accurate

The comment ‘you always have to be on’ is 💯 % accurate….Husband is a PM and I am like how does he do it…I am so exhausted…I wanted to be a PM like him but now I have given up on it

@chloeshih

7 ай бұрын

o god it is seriously such an exhausting role. really makes me think of why i didn't choose a more chill path x_x i swear PMs love the pain haha

Oatly is great, but I am a fan of doing lactaid milk (same great taste of milk, no lactose, lasts longer than regular milk, cheaper than oatly), but if you like the taste then there you go. (chats to help with the algo, good luck)

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

i love lactaid milk too!! both are veryyyy yummy and thank you so much for the chat haha you're awesome!

I'm an incoming APM and to be quite honest, I still feel really lost about what I'm supposed to do.

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

you'll get there, dongho!! make sure you have a great relationship with your manager. they're the ones who are supposed to guide you when you're unsure of what to do. it takes a while to build that product intuition and steer the team in the right direction!

Maybe fast paced, outsourced, B2B type sector such as software is the source of burnout. Slow paced, in-house, B2C type sector such as appliances aka white goods may offer much better work life balance for PMs. For example people in marketing agencies are complaining 80+ work hours but in-house marketers say that they are working 45 hours or less except product launch times or deadlines. I want to advance through product management. I think I should go for health, appliances or automotive rather than software, defense industry or FMCG in order to maintain better work life balance. What do you think Chloe? 🤔

i’m an incoming RPM at Meta and ngl this video just straight up stressed me out🥺😭😭 i feel like i’m gonna fail and be sad and stressed all day

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

omg jade! noo i think you'll be just fine. if you made it through the RPM interviews, you're in good hands. Meta program is beyond amazing and will definitely give you the right support to ease you into the role. Programs like that help a lot of PMs to become top-tier in the industry!

@jadeclarke4116

2 жыл бұрын

@@chloeshih Ok great! I love your content so much and I really value how you feel and what you say. I’ve also been chasing this dream for 2 years and failure isn’t an option at this point. Love you Chloe❤️

Can you do a video reacting to the apprentice one championship edition ? 😅

Can you make a video about PMM and how that extra M makes a huge difference in the job?

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

This is a *very* good question. I actually have a few PMM friends that will want to share more about their paths too. It’s similar but different roles! That extra M changes a lot haha

I remember you talking about how a work life balance is important to you and that’s why you switched jobs along with other reasons. But it seems that you’re still working a lot. Would you mind explaining how it’s changed or it is always stressful as a PM no matter where you work?

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hiya! great question - i'm still very busy, but it's definitely a different type of busy at discord right now. i'm posting a "realistic day in my life" tomorrow on my channel. hope that'll give you more insight to where i spend my time!

Not sure if you'll see this, but I need human, or a hypothetical older sibling figure to help me out haha. I've been researching for a while and its just awesome but stressing on how many careers there is to choose from. I'm 22 and basically took a gap year but only need a few classes left to graduate from community college with a Fine Arts degree. I want to study and be a graphic designer because I love designing and being creative, talking with people and solve problems. I can easily put myself into others shoes as well. But I'm afraid that once I graduate with graphic design, I wont be able to get a job right away or even get paid well enough. So I'm kinda turning towards business, specifically marketing and brand/product marketing or managing. Not sure if it's a good idea and I'm afraid of losing time AND money, with little benefits. I even considered nursing the first year of college, but I just feel like I dont belong there. Any comments are welcomed. I just want to talk or possibly vent to someone who'll understand or give their own strong and honest opinions. Thanks everyone who read! ♡

@chloeshih

2 жыл бұрын

hey aizawa! feel free to join my discord server to ask your questions. we have a good forum for that. link in the description!

Hi! Can you do a video on the first 90 days of being a PM? Especially if you're new to a leadership role. ❤ Or maybe a video of online communication difficulties? I find myself stressed when my stakeholders are short online but I know they're just busy lol. It comes across like they're mad!