What was the Uncanny Valley Character that really give you goosebumps?

@CheatOnlyDeath

Жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson, Britany Spears, etc. any celebrity who had plastic surgery on their face.

@cryptopirate3502

Жыл бұрын

Hello Sumsub command! Thank you for another awesome video about digital threads) But I have a question about another digital thread that is going right now. Have you already seen the last video from Business Casula? They expose the violation of KZread rules by KZread itself, in favor of a channel that violates copyright policies. I believe that this case deserves to be known rather by your auditory specifically, because it's about threat to all of us on the platform, creators and viewers.

Honestly I didn't find anything "off" with the fake people you showed in the beginning. I guess I'm a robot 😂😂

@mekkler

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't tell anything usual either. I'm not a robot. Shut up! You can't prove anything!

@simongrande2176

Жыл бұрын

Same

@idontreadorreply

Жыл бұрын

Same

@rocky_1904

Жыл бұрын

Same

@princessjenni77

Жыл бұрын

Same

The AI-generated faces were fine with me. The humanoid robots, though? Definitely creepy. And I'm a photographer so I spend hours looking at faces on a screen.

@generalmadness6832

8 ай бұрын

for me its just the thought of something moving almost human int he distance where you cant quite see it or talk to it but its not moving right. its moving a little too fast and jerky for a human but not so jerky it looks like a robot. its definately flesh being not metal but its not human. it is capable of anything and has no empathy. it would not hesiatate to rip your organs out of yoru body and eat them in front of you

it's insane to me that the algorithm doesn't blow up your videos they are very very good

@myname-mz3lo

Жыл бұрын

when you change host every week its normal youtube isnt recomending you to people . the channel looks unstable . one wrong host change and peope will leave

Am I a robot? None of those pictures you showed at the start startled me. I guess It’s too late for me lol

@MR-cb7pe

11 ай бұрын

Me neither.

Uncanny Valley and "Je ne sais quoi" are 2 sides of the same coin. One is just a positive feeling of attraction, and the other is a negative feeling of possible danger. Uncanny Valley only happens with people and "human like things". Especially with faces, and sometimes also with voices. So things like wax fruit, fake plants and flowers, counterfeit and knock off goods, fake tasting artificial flavors, and fake smelling scents don't give the uncanny valley response. The exception is if these things move in a strange way. The less something is like an "average human" or "ideal human", the more uncanny it is. It can be explained by several responses that male someone feel like someone might be dangerous. 1) Death and disease reminder sensitivity 2) Animal reminder sensitivity, especially of dangerous animals. The most important being yellow eyes, glowing eyes, or animal-like eyes. 3) Paranormal and supernatural reminder sensitivity (for people who are superstitious) 4) Fear of the unknown and strange and unusual, which includes odd movement 5) Ugliness 6) Mixed messages and things that seem deceptive or fake 7) Personal reminder sensitivity 1 - 5 are self explanatory 6) Fake smiles and smiles that are off and facial features that seem out of place are especially uncanny. Botox makes people uncanny because their faces don't move naturally. Some people also look like cartoons, or like they are "wearing a mask" just because they are born different or they have a medical condition. 7) If someone reminds you of someone who you just personally do not like such as a family member who you don't like, this will also give an uncanny valley response. Uncanny Valley associations perpetuates in culture. For example, uncanny valley is used for characters in horror movies, and then people who vaguely remind you of these characters in horror movies can give the uncanny valley response. So even if someone just reminds you of Jack Nicholson in the Shining just because of how they look, that can give an uncanny valley response.

I think a biggest fear is how this will be used against us. We are always sold things as a “fun” new innovation to get our buy-in even if the ultimate use is not in our best interest. Marketing by another name is a form of herding.

The pictures in the beginning looked completely normal to me

13:22 Is it just me who noticed 3/4 of the "untrustworthy" faces on the bottom were POC whereas 3/4 of the "trustworthy" faces on the top were white? Also the top row are all obviously young women (two for sure obviously being little girls). I'm sure there is more variety in the middle but I definitely think there is some human bias going into this. They should trying doing all black AI generated faces vs all white real faces or all adult AI faces vs all children real faces to see if the Ai-generated faces are still considered most trustworthy.

@RadRicardo446

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same and was surprised so few people pointed it out. One other thing I noticed is that everyone on the top row is smiling. But it is interesting to see what the AI defines as a trustworthy face.

@AJBlueJay

Жыл бұрын

It's simple. The more a face resembles a normal human baby, the more neotenous and 'innocent" it looks, so less threatening and more trustworthy. So a house cat or a Pomeranian is cute because the eyes are more round and they it remind us of human babies, but a wolf or lion is scary because it doesn't remind us of a hunan baby, and they have predator eyes. The less a face looks like a baby, the less neotenous and "innocent" it looks, so "more dangerous" and less trustworthy. Top 4 faces are very neotenous, generically attractive, and also smiling. All 4 are also females. Women are more neotenous than men. Bottom 4 faces are low neoteny, ugly, and look angry or unfriendly. 3 out of 4 are men. The controversial part to talk about is "race". Babies frequently have lighter finer hair, lighter eyes, and lighter skin, and these darken with age and puberty. Black babies are usually born a shade or two lighter than their eventual skin color. So "lighter" is more like a baby, and seems more innocent. But too light skin, and then it looks unhealthy to people and reminds them of disease, anemia, corpses, and death. While a so called "healthy tan" just hides signs of illness such as anemia or jaundice better. This is why white skin is a trope of evil characters such as ghosts, vampires, zombies. But racial biases of course also depend highly on the individual racial biases of who you ask. Very light eyes are rare, so less like the "average human", unless if you live somewhere where they are very common. Very light eyes only look good on neotenous faces, and look better with tan or brown skin. On adult men without neotenous faces, very light eyes can quickly look like wolf eyes or predator eyes. Especially yellow and amber eyes, which is another movie trope of evil characters. Green depends on how light it is and whether it looks more yellow or more bluish. So Damion Poitier's eyes look "more scary" and less neotenous than Tyra Banks' eyes, which don't "look scary". This is also why makeup looks less uncanny on women than on men, even if the makeup is obvious. Women's faces are just more neotenous on average then men, and women typically use makeup to look younger and more neotenous. And to be clear, how someone's face looks has almost nothing to do with whether they choose to do good or bad things.

Those age progressed pictures of missing people have always creeped me out because they're made up of bits and pieces of several real faces. My brain sees real eyes and other features but knows that something is way off.

I failed the first test. Guess I'm a robot.

Another topic I would like to see you make a video about is how Google and Co. monopolize the internet / the information on it. Just look at how few of the allegedly millions of search results your search engine really shows you when you search for the word car or pizza, for example. The whole thing is already having a massive impact, with traffic to small and medium-sized websites being almost completely cut off now.

Very good in-depth discussion of the Uncanny Valley. My belief is the the UV will eventually be filled in. Partially be cause the technologies will improve, and partially because people will become more used to the non-human features. I did not notice anything 'different' about the AI portraits. So it has already begun.

I thought they all looked pretty normal

@Sumsubcom

Жыл бұрын

Based on Kimberly Brink's research, I would venture to guess that you are 9 y.o or even younger 😀

@Django0324

Жыл бұрын

Nope. I'm glad I've maintained my youthfulness though. XD

@mjmulenga3

Жыл бұрын

Just started watching, the first ones look normal to me. 😢

@b07x

Жыл бұрын

@@mjmulenga3 Same 😂

A good example of how to avoid the Uncanny Valley is Arcane.

Great vid. I could happily listen to Emily read the phone book... Looking forward to next installment. God bless you.

How do we know Emily isn't ai 🤔 would she even really know 🤔 Do android sheep dream ?

Great video as always

How is this video only at 9k views? Deserves x1000 more

What comes to my mind is the story of this man who married his "doll", so I can well imagine that people will lose their disgust for these new forms of life / robots at some point.

This just made me realized, I get this uncanny valley feeling when I see people with partial facial paralysis.

Becoming a great presenter Emily, keep it up, especially when lighthearted and having fun with it. I feel like I am there. Very elegant, as is Bradley. A pleasure to watch you two. Always love the writing on Sumsub.

The woman in the picture looked more normal than the narrator. 🤣

The "Jibarro" episode from love death and robots and that facebook meta guy definitely give me uncanny valley nightmare fuel.

@heya2325

Жыл бұрын

jibarro was trippy

Don't know enough for uncanny valley but i know a dunkey voiceover when i hear one.

That's why Arcane feels so good and realistic at the same time without being weird...

I don't think they look weird.. knowing they don't exist is probably weirder than their appearance

You can't use "this person does not exist" for UV bc they're pics made by morphing existing pictures of real people. There was a whole thing about these images years ago and how some of them actually look exactly like real people who do exist.

This is great!

Didn't expect that Dunkey voice cameo 🤣😂

So many good insights, thank you. Emily, can you PLEASE learn to use a few more of your facial muscles to bring a more gentle human feel to an otherwise flawless presentation.

@0:18 I am a robot. I see nothing wrong with this

The presenter looked more robotic than the pictures. Why was one shoulder so much higher than the other? And wax figures freak me out. Also well sculpted statues of people.

Bruh the dunkey clip 💀

Is Emily a CGI character? Or is she a female version of the CGI character, "Bradley?"

I'm watching this video with headphones on. I stopped watching at 2:40 because of the annoying background "music" - Its constant clinking and clunking are absolutely annoying.

I dont get much uncanny valley from the robots especially the hiroshi guy ones, i usually feel it with those criminals description drawings tho

So, what’s off with the first picture? I mean, I obviously know, just asking for my... robot friend

The editing in this video is much more snappy than Emily’s other videos. Nice job!

Oooh interesting.

8:00-8:11 - but if the expressions are just being mirrored, then they're not a true reflection of the emotions of the person you're talking to, are they?

Emily is so adorable 😍

I chose the bottom row… there was something seriously cheesy and fake about the top row. Plus some people have an instinct for these things. Some humans will always recognise real humans over Aí. The eyes give it away most of the time. Do the eyes match the smile? Some Aí images have a wide grin but very cold or bland looking eyes and this always makes me feel really creeped out.

Jokes on you I don't trust anyone anymore ,not even myself ,😃

I have unresolved trauma from my parents playing that Dire Straits music video about 15 years ago hated it

Wait a minute why is the white cloth on your chair

I really don't find robots or human-like creatures scary or off, it's more just interesting to me to see the human species create a creature that is not flesh and bones.

As a director and filmmaker, I can say that I don't like all of this animation, we saw what evil these animations can do on StarWars

@Sumsubcom

Жыл бұрын

May the Forse be with you 🤖

Am I an oddball? Uncanny valley doesn’t seem to affect me at all. Androids, CGI none of it bothers me 😅

I knew Emily was a robot.She cant be real

Look at Emily’s hands. Is she an AI?

at 13:17, does race and gender not mean more than how the network generated?

Thanks for calling me a robot man

Not interested in CGI, am interested in the ability to transfer from wetware to hardware. Could sorely use a new spine.

Let me guess, cause corpses. Saved myself 10 mins

W VID

Girl : It’s clear that there’s something off… Me : Not at all … Theory = crap Checkmate.

skinwalkers

the computer generated faces look way more real than some of the women I see walking about nowadays...

where cybersecurity

There are many factual errors in this video. "android" doesnt mean human like. it specifically means male like. this is an understandable conflation as humans are generally assumed male in colonized societies. male is taken for granted as the default. during the talk of mirror neurons, they are said to be responsible for perceptions of empathy. but the description and theory involves sympathy, which is completely different. a cursory internet search will bring up "empathy", but its a misunderstanding of actual research. sympathy is "reading" other people/the room/... empathy is direct understanding of what someone else has experienced from ones own personal experience. ending the talk of mirror neurons with the "theory" of autism spectrum is ableist. its been a thoroughly disproven theory for decades. Its a common ableist stereotype that autists dont have empathy. this goes back even past the "theory" of autistic children being changlings that were switched with the "real" children as babies by trolls or ferlies. one of the common conditions that presents with autism, that is to say, not necessarily an inherent feature of autism itself, is hyposynaptogenesis. that is, its one of the common neurodivergences and disorders that presents with the condition of under generating synapses, not mirror neurons. this leads to not being able to process different types of data in the typical way to adapt and conform to a given societies expectations. the less frequent the neuron patterns fire, the quicker the "burnout" from sensory and social stimulation. that is to say, they not only empathize quite a lot, but they sympathize and empathize too much, because of not being able to suitably classify their readings of others and experiencing things differently, their brains often automatically think of too many possibilities that dont seem to quite fit what they take as the appropriate social context. its too much information that most people simply assume correctly, almost as if by accident. but autists often cant assume in the way we typically think of as making assumptions. long story short -- too late, its not that they have less empathy, but that they present less confabulation. It wasnt very accurate to go with how wax figures arent an example, or AI generated faces as an example of the Uncanny Valley. the uncanny valley relates to how humans develop artificial human likenesses, and not how other AI generate human likenesses. so wax figures absolutely apply and theres been discussion for ages about how so many people find them so disturbing for this very reason, and people also discuss how AI generated images dont promote the unease like the uncanny valley, so even if you personally think it does, it doesnt really apply here. a much more relevant comparison would be something like the AI assisted deep fakes used in media and film, like the newer star wars movies and shows. there was a HLOT of talk about how the Leia face from the end of Rogue One, was not only inappropriate, but incredibly creepy. the Luke face as well, from the mandalorian also spun much discussion. and since you invoked a sense of the the uncanny valley as relating to humans natural classification system as being able to distinguish dead things from the living, and the Leia face was used to animate a womxn known to be DED, that seems like a strangely missed point, instead bringing up movie monsters portrayed by living humans with basic makeup, even including a one of he most celebrated depictions of dracula, an icon not only NOT usually described as disturbing, but as an alluring and hypnotic sex symbol. so, WTAF?

@fivetimesyo

Жыл бұрын

You misspelled woman.

@NixinVictus

Жыл бұрын

@@fivetimesyo nope

@fivetimesyo

Жыл бұрын

@@NixinVictus no, you really did. You put an x in it.

@NixinVictus

Жыл бұрын

@@fivetimesyo lol, its an older 80s-90s reference to women that werent historically included as women. that is to say, trans women, non-binary women, and black, indigenous, and other women of colour. trust, its a whole thing with its own rabbit hole. im an older radfem from an older genration, where if you said you were a woman, that was good enough (because we believed womxn)

Drawrings

Right they all look normal if they didn’t scammers wouldn’t use them .

guys pls upload hacking stuff

Emily is pleasantly symmetrical. Almost fashion model level actually, eho agrees?

@jc-px8ox

Жыл бұрын

a bit unnerving

I hated the polar express movie. so creepy

Bad explanation about uncanny valley, the photos shown generated by AI was so perfect even experts agree that you need to be an expert to notice any difference. You'll see weird things when you focus on hair mostly, but the face is totally fine.

Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen

what is worse than uncanney valley is clicking a video of a youtuber you chose to subscribe to and seing new hosts all the time .... i didnt subscribe to these people ... bye . you had a good channel with some originality and now its the same as any other channel

@SK-uu2fg

Жыл бұрын

So you subscribe to a channel solely based on the hosts and not the content theyre trying to share? If you havent noticed, this is a channel about cybersecurity, not a cult of personality. If you want to use your subscription powers to be an inflated fangirl, feel free to subscribe to justin bieber's channel.

@reesewitty3341

Жыл бұрын

You must be gay to prefer Bradley over Emily

@brwntwn123

Жыл бұрын

@@SK-uu2fg That's literally what everyone uses KZread for lmao. No one's gonna watch pewdiepie for his content but for pewdiepie himself.

"We understand they are wax figures and are not afraid of them." 🥲 I didn't get that memo.