The takeaway is that you shouldn't turn your submission kink into a political ideology.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

this is all linked with redpill shit too. they want this type of wife because they cant deal with modern women making their own decisions and being a human just like them. thats way too much sas than a woman should ever have. thinking for themselves and having their own goals. cant have that. Dammit woman your goals are my goals!! but for you...and me !!

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

These are legit lifestyles though, not some sort of fringe kink thing

@kinghassy334

Жыл бұрын

@@dansheffield4021 the problem is romanticism, it's like one of those "a day in the life of" videos that show you the fun parts of the day. They also neglect a lot of risk involved in your life being completely dependent on one person. There's a reason a lot of people don't choose that life.

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

@@kinghassy334 agreed that a lot of risk is involved.. thats life though. Is the payoff worth it? I guess that all depends on what you value and if you have the financial means to pull it off

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

@@dansheffield4021 i dunno if it's a legit lifestyle if your husband can "take your phone privileges away" like you are a child. it's then a kink. a power kink. it's what the kink community would say " RACK " risk-aware consensual kink - though it's marketed as women having a fun-free life at home with just sunny days and laughing children. at least the kink community understands risks a lot better when they see it and don't just try to say they don't exist or don't just talk about it or something. or try to claim "everyone in 50s lived like this", like they have any idea. probably one of the funniest takes from back in the day time I've seen was from the libertarian community - you see, you didn't need to pay taxes when you didn't have full lawful rights as a woman like no voting etc. of course they wished to be so. its on "womens poll tax repeal movement" on Wikipedia " Before obtaining the right to vote, women were not obliged to pay the tax, but shortly after the Nineteenth Amendment became law, Southern states began examining how poll tax statutes could be applied to women." also you apparently lost your rights as a human if you married "Coverture (sometimes spelled couverture) was a legal doctrine in the English common law in which a married woman's legal existence was considered to be merged with that of her husband, so that she had no independent legal existence of her own. Upon marriage, coverture provided that a woman became a feme covert, whose legal rights and obligations were mostly subsumed by those of her husband. For married women, coverture prevented them from controlling their own assets. An unmarried woman, or feme sole, had the right to own property and make contracts in her own name." "Coverture[Notes 4] prevented women from legally accessing money without their husband's consent and in some cases wages earned by wives belonged to their spouse.[40] " thats the type they want to sexualize? well, be my quest! who am i kidding, they probably want to go even further back to stone age Islam, which never even existed in usa. well, as long as they dont decide anything for others, they can live in their kink fantasy. i would hope they would take voting rights away from themselves, as per their fantasy, just in case.

Every sitcom featuring a trad marriage in the last century: Husband: “I hate you” Wife: “I hate you more” *crowd erupts in laughter*

@granudisimo

Жыл бұрын

Boomer comic strips featuring trad marriages in the same time period: "HAHA look at that, they're both rigging different rooms, unbeknownst to each other, with a murder trap, lol they hate each other because gender norms force them to die before thinking about knowing other people, and have kids just because they have to, isn't that adorable?"

@log7029

Жыл бұрын

Wife: I wish I had never settled down or had children *laugh track* Husband: I hate my life, my job, my family and I’m increasingly suicidal *laugh track*

@granudisimo

Жыл бұрын

@@log7029 In the same sitcom from your head. Husband: *Loses consciousness on the garage while trying to smoke himself to death* Wife Pretending to not know what's going on because wahmen,amirite?: "Oh snap out of it you lazy bum" *dramatic pause with murmur laugh track while he wakes up with a dumb face* "you gotta take out the trash" *loud and long laugh track* Ah, yes, it's feminism's fault that people are morally forced to live with each other "till death do us part" western hierarchies of religion have nothing to do with this, and in fact, I'm so infected with Conservative Brainworms, that I sincerely believe they're totally, somehow, the solution. I'm personally sorry to you for replying with an /S, but you know Americans don't tend to know how to read the room very well.

@jim4506

Жыл бұрын

Just reminds me of that always sunny episode with the canned laughter and they force their Mums to live together even tho they hate each other

@granudisimo

Жыл бұрын

@@jim4506 Conservatism doesn't create families, it creates hostage situations

You can be a feminist AND a housewife. No one is saying you can't.

@catherinelavallee1683

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I am!

@stevenseagull7.7bviews47

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are, look at all the self identifying feminists bashing SAHM's. They've been doing this for decades, long before social media.

@catherinelavallee1683

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenseagull7.7bviews47 who? Where?

@stevenseagull7.7bviews47

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowPrincess87 Holy crap, ok, yes , not saying women shouldn't have a plan b, I'm glad you got out

@stevenseagull7.7bviews47

Жыл бұрын

@@catherinelavallee1683 Starting with this Turkish dude, telling women to basically be a "true" trad and to stfu and not use social media? Look, this guy obviously has some serious screws lose, no one in their right mind would let him near their daughters.

I fell out and laughed when it got around 2:40 and the Trad Wife acted all shocked about the idea of taking a pill for mental health. It's like, you know nothing of the time period you idolize. White suburban housewives were gorked out of their gourd.

@politicsplant

Жыл бұрын

In all fairness, I don’t believe a lot of actual trads are longing for the time of suburban housewifery. At least on a personal level, when I think of what it would mean for me and many women who think like me to be a trad wife, I think of these kinds of things: Small living in a rural community, self-sustainability (gardening, animal husbandry), traditional techniques in the home as opposed to more modern conveniences (churning, canning), in the home education (homeschooling), sewing clothes, etc. Many women were content with this kind of a lifestyle for their whole lives and were not looking for some kind of escape. However I do agree with you that the women in this video and their disdain for modern medicine is very, very stupid. I think that they don’t really know what being a traditional wife actually means. Being a traditional wife doesn’t mean you sit at home all day buying SHEIN dresses and go out to the grocery store at 1pm to get your canned green beans, because those living traditionally can’t actually afford that lifestyle (one income home). It means seeding the green beans, tending them, fertilizing with manure and other items on the land, hand-picking the beans, cleaning them, and spending hours canning them so you and your family have green beans to eat for the next 2 years at little to no actual monetary cost (only hard labor cost) all while taking care of kids.

@edelleaa

Жыл бұрын

@@politicsplant there's no "actual trads" the actual meaning only refers to a woman who prefers to take a traditional or ultra-traditional role in marriage, including the beliefs that a woman's place is in the home and that wives should be submissive to their husbands, it's not one or the other, both can be traditional. but suburban housewifery is exactly what these women here are preaching and fantasizing over.. you can see it in the style of the clothing, hair, house and everything. they are obviously idolizing a certain period of the 50s suburban housewife and not a.. "farm wife" or whatever. i think the type of people you are describing here, wanting to be more self sustained and live a rural peaceful life gardening etc. aren't necessarily "trad wives" at least i wouldn't describe them as such. to me its very different from the ideologies shown here like submitting to male leadership with "your husband is your boss" etc. and this whole meme of the "trad wife" refers to exactly these type of women idolizing a time period they don't even understand.

@kimvarki

Жыл бұрын

@@politicsplant "SHEIN dresses" Lol, that got me.

@Noerd8403

Жыл бұрын

@@politicsplant That is just terrifying. The fact that you put "homeschooling" in the middle like it's the same thing as doing your butter yourself is so telling. The "tradwife" postulate you propose here is ideological, not a "simple" lifestyle. It's conservative in the most extreme sense, the rejection of modernity, the refusal of progress, while hiding behind a false veil of humbleness that this supposed "traditional" (for whom? The term itself is so wrong and misleading) is anything but cutesy reactionary politics.

@ruthantiaobong3502

Жыл бұрын

Right like this b**** is never heard of a champagne mom, or Zany mom.... The stay-at-home mom crowd is famous for abusing substances just to get through their day.

How do these women have time to make these videos? They're neglecting their duties as homemakers and they're giving their individual opinions.

@DylanRomanov

Жыл бұрын

16:52 screaming 😂

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

WhERZ My SAmmIE AN BEEEER??!

@bece00

Жыл бұрын

Lmaoooooo

@Remedy462

Жыл бұрын

Typical woman, entitled to be a feminist or a misogynist! Grab the stones!

@tatiana4050

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like "women should stay in the kitchen" not "in front of camera"

Boomers: "MY BITCH WIFE" is the height of relationship humor These TikTokers: I'll have what she's having!

@jessicest

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂💕

@erenssister.5535

Жыл бұрын

I swear this is like a kink for these women

Tradwives: I’m going to be a stay-at-home mom and housewife because I want to! Take that, Feminism! Feminism: Okay, that was always allowed.

@aycoded7840

Жыл бұрын

That's what feminism is meant to say, but when people who call themselves feminists say the opposite, actual feminists don't say anything about it, so you're inherently going to get people who don't view feminism as allowing that.

@espeon871

Жыл бұрын

No literally feminism is all abt having options and freedom from patriarchy but they act like individuals who bitch abt them are like omg feminism when those individuals might just dislike them, literally why one shld understand ideologies and theory before judging

@hmm6298

Жыл бұрын

This !!!!

@ATurtleAteMyTrex

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 good thing we are no longer in the 60s

@Regulo1d

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 Thanks for the anecdotal evidence

My grandmother had 11 kids and my grandfather used to blame her for getting pregnant except he also had an ongoing bet with his neighbor to see who can get their wife pregnant first. He died when my mom was 14 and my youngest aunt was 3, after he died my grandmother had to somehow find work to support all the kids, the only jobs she was 'allowed' to have were cleaning work essentially. Luckily the oldest kids left school and started working to support the family. Ya man, the olden days were the best...

@bhavya5692

Жыл бұрын

I hope your grandma is in a better place, imo she was a beast for putting up with that. What an endurance.

@rishabhanand4973

Жыл бұрын

so he blamed his wife for helping him win the bet? wtf. Or was it that his neighbor always got his wife pregnant first so he lost every time?

@Redorgreenful

Жыл бұрын

Your grandfather was a real piece of work.

@vaishnavisingh9244

Жыл бұрын

My grandfather also died early, and my grandmother also had to work odd jobs to support like five kids. Oldest aunt got married off as soon as she hit 18, and oldest uncle had to work 3 jobs to keep everyone fed.

@medusachristo4234

Жыл бұрын

I hate these types of men.

I take care of 2 kids. It's a fucking 12 hour a day job. What are they on!?! There is literally not one thing romantic about being a homemaker.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

yeah unless you wanna just start a daycare and take more kids on its a lot of work!! we have 3 boys the two older are going into 3rd and 5th and the 4 yr old actually goes to a stay at home mom who has 4 yr old girls of her own. so she does bring income while being a stay at home mom.. but you really have to wanna do that

@nebuler1

Жыл бұрын

@@KingJT80 @KingJ There definitely are people with a genius for child care and homemaking even. How many trad husbands don't lift a finger around the house? They may say the wife is doing important work, but when the guy gets home and wants to sit on his ass, he'll act like his work is more important because of money or whatever, while his wife is still on the clock until bed time. This is not my situation, at all, but I know it's all to common. I've heard about so many guys who refuse to even change a diaper. As a guy , I get so much credit for doing things that women have always done, really strange.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

@@nebuler1 Be careful taking care of kids might attract some trad wives who wished their husbands did half as much 😂 But seriously my wife couldn't do it. She can't just sit around and clean the house.. it would drive her crazy nowadays because cleaning up after lil kids is different than when she loved to clean with the music or TV on before we had them. It's like the messes never end and if you tell them something it's like herding cats. I don't see how these trad wives don't go absolutely bonkers But then again the barbiturate use was way up in the 50s along with like 8 martinis before dinner... I bet you these women will come full circle and realize their husbands think of them as a useful garden tool they can stick something in when they're bored....

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind people wanting to be traditional whatever that even means but Everytime I hear someone saying be submissive I feel like I'm being kicked in the gut for some reason lol

@aesfx2616

Жыл бұрын

@@leahflower9924 Why does it matter to you how someone lives their life.

I love the lady in the first video smack-talking antidepressants like 90% of housewives weren't snorting lines 24/7. 16mil women alone were prescribed sedatives and barbiturates due to anxiety and other conditions in the 50s.

@KenzoElysium

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 my point is that pretending it's a modern problem caused by feminism like the person in the video was doing is both wrong and hypocritical.

@82892869hi

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 it was worse back then for both sexes yknow, it’s like criticising modern medicine and wanting to go back to 1950s medicine instead. Saying women in the past had it better when they couldn’t vote, had 0 recourse against abuse etc. is incredibly stupid and out of touch. Btw, casual sex existed back then, single moms too, anxiety as well, etc, don’t fall for right wing bullshit painting it all as “modern degeneracy” and the idyllic past (which doesn’t fucking exist) will solve everything.

@Speedojesus

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 Dude, your entire basis is pretty much just what you "think" about the past, but with what we actually know and with what was on the books in the past in terms of what women could and could not do, most women would probably rather have the freedom and agency they have now rather than being under the whim of a man who controls their life like a parent does a child's whilst being considered a second class citizen in the eye of the law.

@ismth

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 wait why wouldn’t you be able to have freedoms and a responsible partner

@vaishnavisingh9244

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 You do understand where you're coming from right? Even in the past, women WERE overworked and stressed, the type of life you're imagining is only available to the rich. Again, capitalism is the root of the problem. Also, you're very wrong about the statistics, the past was much more loser with doses and hence you had like a very high percentage of women who were fed anxiety medications than not, BUT THAT TOO IS A RICH PERSON THING. There were fewer laws, there were fewer protection laws so if a man abducts you and makes you his wife, then you're legally his. Consent wasn't much of a thing, again the life you're imagining is half fictional which was available only for the rich.

Real life "trad women" in history had to work out for a living. Here in Canada, most women were either working in farms, in textile mills, in bakeries and shops, and some even worked in mines. If you go back further before world war 2, many children were working these jobs as well until the gov freed them with laws banning child labor. This 1950s housewife was only for a minority of middle class professional men. Most people were still working class folk

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

it was for the then-new suburban housewives.

@robertthedevil7598

Жыл бұрын

Yah it was mostly marketing to the burbs, which were growing at the time.

@caitlynharbidge3056

Жыл бұрын

Pro comment! Many times my grandmother reminded my brother and I of her times with my grandpa homesteading in a rural valley. Both knew had to equally make bread, milk cows or chop wood because they had too. My grandmother not only raised 4 of her own children and fostered many more but was at the time the only school teacher for 300kms anyway and ran the farm with my grandfather. There was no such privilege as stay at home mother.

@Chillaxes

Жыл бұрын

Even in the Middle ages women worked out the home

@Biracialbaddie

Жыл бұрын

@@caitlynharbidge3056 right alllll of history woman have been working and they are so obsessed with a the 50s decade and ignore all the rest of history lol 😂

As somebody who was raised by a "stay-at-home" mother and an abusive father, I will say... don't become financially dependent of your partner.

@Dmoriarty1993

Жыл бұрын

Clearly not a model to base things off.

@thatsprettylunchean

Жыл бұрын

@@Dmoriarty1993 Yeah true, traditional marriage is faulty as fuck. Its made for women to fall into the hands of awful human beings.

@FortunaFavored

Жыл бұрын

@@Dmoriarty1993 everyone bases things off of their experience. That’s how life works.

@desireesmith862

Жыл бұрын

Becoming financially dependent isn’t a great idea even if the partner isn’t abusive. Accidents happen, they could pass away or simply loose their job for a while. It simply is not realistic or even optimal to be financially dependent.

@bdsmgaming3627

Жыл бұрын

Even if your partner is a sweetheart, it's not ideal to be a housewife because of the current cost of living, you both require to work to afford the rent

There’s nothing wrong with being a housewife… as long as it’s the woman’s decision and truly what she wants in life, and as long as the husband’s willing to take the responsibility of being the single income source. Stay-at-Home mom’s are definitely super important when taking care of children.

@justalostlocal

Жыл бұрын

​@@dde1fy troll better

@enterthenormie3999

Жыл бұрын

Hasan assuming that all house wives get beaten makes me wonder how he treats women.

@Jojo-kj1nb

Жыл бұрын

absolutely!!

@yrasphong

Жыл бұрын

I wish society wouldn't judge a man if he wanted to stay with the kids and have wife work.. society accepts stay at home mom more than a stay at home Dad

@HumanOperatedBotAccount

Жыл бұрын

@@yrasphong my dream job fr. Got to spend the first year of my son's life "working" from home while watching him every day and it was awesome

also, the point that trad wives miss is that the ability for women to work is liberating, not because corporate work is so great, but because being able to make their own money protected them from financial abuse.

@espeon871

Жыл бұрын

Yep, and having independence

It’s ridiculous hearing women who are still at the beginning of their adult lives lecturing people like they’re experts. Wait until you’ve been doing this for twenty years and your husband ignores you, your kids hate you, and you realize that you were always just a servant all along. Or once your husband replaces you with a new model and you find yourself working an entry level job at 40 because you have no work experience.

@DoctorBiobrain

Жыл бұрын

It should be remembered that in olden times housewives had servants to do all the real work. Once we had a proper middleclass, the wives replaced the servants. That wasn’t traditional, that’s something that was created in the 20th century by men who still wanted a servant girl but couldn’t afford one.

@xTheEightBallx

Жыл бұрын

Godamn

@DoctorBiobrain

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 That’s just not true. Before the 20th century regular people had servants and slaves to do housework. You’re thinking of rich people with teams of servants who lived in the mansion, but just read old literature: Most households had a servant girl who didn’t live with them do the chores; as well as treating their children as servants. Back then you either were a servant or had a servant because there weren’t many jobs for women to do. Moreover, people who were poor didn’t have spotless homes or fresh laundry like we do. Our concept of how everyone should live is recent and there’s nothing traditional about it. It’s just based on movies, TV, and advertising created by men, for men.

@ShadowGun625

Жыл бұрын

@@DoctorBiobrain were talking about the 1950's not the 1750's.

@DoctorBiobrain

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 What work load? People didn’t keep their houses like we do now. They weren’t cleaning dishes, ironing clothes, dusting, vacuuming, and all the things we think of as housework. Again, these are all modern ideas. Even rich Europeans were filthy by today’s standards and that’s why disease was so prevalent. If women back then worked then they did WORK, like farming or being a servant. They didn’t stay home cleaning their house all day. And slaves go back to ancient times and they definitely had slaves in Europe during the middle ages. Wikipedia has a page on it if you’re interested. But again, I wasn’t saying everyone had a servant and a slave, but both types of help existed and it wasn’t just the rich.

You can be a feminist and be a stay at home parent, that was always allowed. You do have to be careful about the person you choose to do that with, especially if you are not independently wealthy.

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

That's on the "technically feminist" page. like yeah, I guess murdering people is too if it empowers you. i guess being a female dictatorship that establishes patriarchy which only is good for _you_ is technically feminist too. though it still only empowers you and nobody else. and even you in this very narrow specific condition.

lets go back to tradmen..... when one job could pay for the entire household.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

sugar daddy? Naw, Trad daddy...

@waskowcreationsart9639

Жыл бұрын

Fine, make the rent like it was in the 20th century (15 cents😂)

@tomcruisemiddleteeth

Жыл бұрын

@@KingJT80 TRAD DADDYYYYYYY

@tomcruisemiddleteeth

Жыл бұрын

@@waskowcreationsart9639 fr bro

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

Omg I was thinking if you wanna be a trad wife be a Mennonite or Mormon wife and Hasan mentioned the Amish 😂

If you wanna be a housewife, your best chance is to invent a time machine and go back to a time when a family of four could get by with just one parent working.

@artcooldude6711

Жыл бұрын

do not do this if you want to be treated like a human and not a baby incubator-punching bag with 0 escape

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

OR just advocate for more unions and higher wages. but the conservatives who push this submissive trad wife/red pill shit wont get it. completely brain broken...

@joncook7510

Жыл бұрын

You could manage with less stuff and live in a smaller house.

@be4unvme

Жыл бұрын

You can still live with one worker household. Live frugal like our parents did

@YandereDay

Жыл бұрын

@@joncook7510 that doesn't work so well when two incomes can't get you a house in the first place. Theres a reason so many millennials/gen z are still renting

the "husband as your boss" idea is absolutely terrifying because it's using "well, what about capitalism" to absolve one of the most ancient and exploitative power imbalances.

@tatiana4050

Жыл бұрын

@honestrat03 like isn't person who gives you money more like your customer? She doesn't go to work and she gets paid...

@JohnSmith-qf9cx

Жыл бұрын

@honestrat03 Sorry this is going to sound bad, but who ever has the monopoly on violence usually is in control. Humans phsycologically are more concerned of harm and negative things than optimistic or good things. So as humans we usually submit to the most violent thing. On a societal level, this is why crimes are relatively rare, because the violence of the police deters most people. In a gang, the leader is the most respected for a reason.

@JamesConollyLives5353

Жыл бұрын

The feminist and proletarian struggles are inherently intertwined

@endcaps1917

Жыл бұрын

@Hayden Roberts agreed same with the struggles of all marginalized groups

@hans9725

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesConollyLives5353 yes, inextricably

This notion that stay at home parents isn't work is so damn infuriating. I am a stay at home dad and being a stay at home parent is by far the hardest job I have ever had in my entire life.

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

i guess if you have 10 children, homeschool them, never put them into kindergarten. but some women also enjoy that stuff, so.. otherwise they wouldn't go so much into nursing/teaching/kindergarden/doctor/jobs that require looking after children and dudes. they would just do that at homes, instead of to other people´s kids and hubbies.

@avapilsen

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's the most important, but Idk if it's the hardest lol

@MariaThePotterNut

Жыл бұрын

@@Redmanticore Even if you enjoy your work, work is still work. And also, those types of jobs were the only ones allowed for women for a long time as well, there's a reason you see more women in them, and it's not because their gender means they enjoy it more.

@roka745

Жыл бұрын

Being a sahp is definitely a full time job. Being a stay at home wife/husband (no kids) is not on the same level.

@sway_onthetrail

Жыл бұрын

@@avapilsen Shit it’s harder than any warehouse or construction job I’ve had.

The funniest part is that if they actually wanted to more trad wives out there, they would champoin higher wages XD they purposely ignore the fact that women working nowadays is not only about liberation BUT economic need! They should just say: 'we want to be trad wives, so pay our husbands more!' That would make more sense than this delusional reasoning.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

i mean that was one thing that did happen back in the day. men worked a lot more unions. but even still what would happen when the men/man wasnt around? thats what these women forget. rosie the riveter existed for a reason. these women cant tiktok their way outta bills if the husband dies and leaves her and the kids behind with all of that

@abaque24

Жыл бұрын

@@KingJT80 i agree

@ashkebora7262

Жыл бұрын

As with EVERY conservative, they see the problem... and then do a 180 and RUN away from the real solution back to their masters who are _part_ of the problem. Their incessant _need_ for a boot on their neck is just... ridiculous.

@elmoworld850

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. You can't expect women to give up their dreams to be a homemaker for a husband who doesn't make enough.

@waskowcreationsart9639

Жыл бұрын

@@elmoworld850 adding to your statement this wouldn’t be as common today if it still was as big as before why I say that is because of the cost of living vs rent being 15 cents in the 20th century. Everything else being ridiculousness expensive along with shitty wage minimums in most (if not all) states and provinces. Does this make it impossible for the few women who wanna pursue this, no, there’s still many men out there who are capable and wouldn’t mind that sort of thing just not as many as before imo

If your family can afford to do keep one parent home they are lucky, privileged. Capitalism forces both members of a couple to work.

@TechMik3LP

Жыл бұрын

It's quite interesting, WW2 was like the inception of capitalism for many women. Workers got double free, free from landownership on the one hand, "free" to choose the place where they work. The need for workers in WW2, because the men where at the front, pulled women into the factories in the manner. And there is a liberating part about it, but also it's from housewives to wage labor.

@sharper68

Жыл бұрын

@@TechMik3LP I do not object to anyone wanting to work. What I lament is the option that couples once had allowing one of them stay home and take care of domestic concerns as their contribution. The choice of to work or not should be up to each family and the individuals needs For most working people today to get ahead, both of the couple have to work. That has been largely baked in, for low wage earning families this trend is far more acute. Today (unlike the past) that could reasonably be either of the couple, the role is no longer restricted to woman. But the fact is too few people have a real choice to do it if the partners want to get ahead and be economically comfortable.

@TechMik3LP

Жыл бұрын

@@sharper68 i wholeheartedly agree

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

@@TechMik3LP exactly my grandma worked in a factory and smoked cigarettes and grew up in the Bronx I think she was even in a girl gang lol and then when you see photos of her in the 50s all of a sudden she's always home wearing dresses and aprons

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

@@TechMik3LP I guess the 1920s-1940s was a pretty liberating time for women though so before that you could say they were more repressed and then in the 50s they went back to being repressed

So purple hair and working is bad but staying in an abusive marriage because you don’t have your own money to move out is better? As a woman, we respectfully don’t claim them

@unknown_codec_404

Жыл бұрын

Why purple hair

@Steph489

Жыл бұрын

As a woman, I respect them just because they’re submissive. Doesn’t mean they’re in abusive relationship. They just like to be a stay at home mom and wife what’s so wrong with that?

@08Jahna

Жыл бұрын

Seems like the only arguments against tradwives are literally made up points. None of these videos reflected any type of abuse

@TheProletariat321

9 ай бұрын

You can be a housewife without submitting to your husband. Submitting is accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person. Do you think its ok for housewifes to degrade themselves? A relationship should be founded on equality and trust, otherwise its abuse. Why is it neccessary to give up your autonome to do housework. Housework is work, but it is unpaid labour. Society does not value it because it is seen as something women are expected to do, and they dont give a shit how hard it is to take care of a home and even children. But now capitalism has made it impossible for a family to be able to live a normal life with just one persons income. And I do find it very ridiculous for a man to expect his wife to do all the work in the house when he has never washed his dirty socks in his entire life. The Initial commenter made a very real point. For centuries, (white) women have been forced into marriages they could never get out of. It was literally impossible for them to leave, even if that man was abusive. I am not saying that every man was abusing his wife, but when he was, his wifes only choice was to kill him. Women should not be forced to become housewifes, they should not be forced to do something that makes them miserable. If a woman wants to be a housewife, she should do it (not because someone told her to be one, but because that is what would make her happy). But in this capitalist society, there is no such thing as a choice. People are having their lives consumed by work while not being able to do anything that makes them enjoy life, because some companies have stolen the precious recources we need to survive and forced us to work for them and they barely compensate us for making them billions. How can we blame people for getting abortions when having children could make them homeless. You should not be angry at feminism because work is ruining your life, you should be angry at capitalism for forcing you to work like a dog while doing something you hate. If I was a woman, neither being a housewife or an exploited worker would be something I would want (being a housewife isnt really much of a choice now since a working class woman couldnt afford without having a job, and I dont like to cook). Its not my place to judge a housewife for what she wants, cooking is very fun for a lot of people, its really just a preference. But I have a big Problem with the part where these tradfem tiktokers talk about submitting (I have already talked about the Definition of the word in the beginning.

@TheCoralie87

8 ай бұрын

​@@unknown_codec_404 Conservatives seem to hate coloured hair & it's assumed they're a feminist; such as seeing a woman with blue hair & assuming she's a feminist.

Also, if you wanna be a "trad wife" you can still be one. This isn't a competition about which life is better. It's about the freedom to choose.

@m.filmtrip

Жыл бұрын

Except the whole structure of society and economy has changed and it’s very difficult now to raise a family on a single income, afford housing, healthcare etc.

@perryjohnson6461

Жыл бұрын

@@m.filmtrip Exactly!

@rossthomson1958

Жыл бұрын

So the freedom of choosing a $30,000 9-5 job and your children want you back because they miss you, that type of freedom.

@jessilovely

Жыл бұрын

Louder for the trade in the BACK

If they want to be a trad wife then that's fine. But why can't they just respect other women's lifestyles?

@manawa3832

Жыл бұрын

Tried that; doesn't work.

@theinvisiblewoman5709

Жыл бұрын

Respecting women is just too hard especially for those longing for antiquated lifestyles

@Paratet

Жыл бұрын

Because they're conservatives. Anything that doesn't cornform to their lifestyle is an attack on them. For instance, a gay teacher talking about his husband is inherently a sexual thing that kids shouldn't be exposed to. But a straight teacher having wedding photos in her classroom is innocent.

@PED922

Жыл бұрын

It's the other way around... The feminists are the one bashing and destroying them... Go under the comments of that video and see how feminists destroyed her..

@noahchopson7136

Жыл бұрын

The point of traditionalism is to remove agency from women

16:46 every single trad wife content creator is just a contradiction. If you're a trad wife why are you on Tiktok and why is your husband allowing you to be on tiktok.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

GEt IN DAT KiTChEn!!!

@JavHos98

Жыл бұрын

They’re on Tik ton coz home is boring reading bible all day

@jamminit3406

Жыл бұрын

@@RealFemSapien Your role is to be submissive to your husband. If men are to be the leaders then we should hear these thoughts from them directly, not a woman.

@ema.303

Жыл бұрын

@@RealFemSapien thank feminism for that and acknowledge its benefits or just own up to the trad wife and be just like in the 60's when women clearly didnt have these rights

What these trad wives fail to mention is they don't want this (in their mind idealic) lifestyle for all women, just for a small group of them. Just like the 50s and 60s poor women and women of color had to work outside the home, often in shit paying jobs because sex discrimination was legal. Behind the trad wife ideology is a racist and classist caste system, and on some level they all know this. You go to any starbucks now and its primarily women working, who will serve them overpriced sugar water with espresso if all the women are at home having kids? They want other women to work, and thats why they blame feminism and not capitalism. They don't actually oppose the capitalist system of hierarchy and exploitation

@dtb8663

Жыл бұрын

This! Great point. Also, there would be no women they could feel better than if everyone had this lifestyle. A large part of the trad wife phenomenon seems to be feeling more desirable to men than other women.

@semikolondev

Жыл бұрын

Racist classist system hahah x) God, I love Americans you are so far from the rest of the world.

@cutekitty0118

Жыл бұрын

@@semikolondev not american

@zRythemHD

Жыл бұрын

Getting woman out of the workforce is one of the most anti capitalistic things you could do The govt wants woman working for more tax dollars, they could care less about the feminism movement

@zach-rac

Жыл бұрын

This is an excellent point, and very well stated! Then again, I tend to just assume trad wives are racist/sexist/etc....

No one is stopping a woman living ”traditionally”. That is still a thing you can do. NOW however there are also other types of life styles for the women who don’t want to live like that. Is it so hard to fathom that not every person enjoyed that life and that’s why people campaigned so hard to change the system? Edit: Everyone commenting that ”economy/ capitalism stops you” while it is true, your view is very American dystopia right now. In my country woman can be a house wife even if her husband has somewhat average job. Yes they’ll live frugally but not uncomfortably. American economy seems insane right now, best of luck to you all

@jordanpetersonsthiccgrandm5892

Жыл бұрын

Capitalism makes it pretty much impossible though. You need two incomes to even survive.

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

I hate to bash that blonde woman but she looks disturbed when she talks like in stepford wives

@JesusHammer

Жыл бұрын

Unless your husband makes over 100k a year in a not huge city, no you actually can't live this life. That's why the only people you see doing it are people living in the midwest with their small business tycoon husband or Abigail Shapiro

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

Economic conditions actually DO stop you from living traditionally.

@Name-ru3di

Жыл бұрын

But that's the problem they find it hard to believe because they found their purpose it must be like that for everyone involved. Knowing how my grandparents lived it was far from that ideal. Yet having two brain cells I'm sure they don't have to concern themselves with it.

Your husband should be your husband, not your BOSS. ☠️

Just picture these women 10 years from now getting called into the study by their husband. “I’m sorry Melinda but your fellatio quotient has really been falling behind and the company honestly has been needing to downsize. We’re unfortunately gonna have to let you go, if you could clean out your nightstand we’ll just have the divorce papers delivered to you. Effective immediately all of your job will be the responsibility of Beth, the woman I’ve been having an affair with. We wish you the best in all your future endeavors.”

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

thats if he hasnt turned her into a baby receptacle. then hes really fucked or he could have gotten beth pregnant and gave her the position

@kontankarite

Жыл бұрын

...brutal

@doeeyes2

Жыл бұрын

Scathing! I love it!

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

The FQ in Q2 has not been meeting our goals.

@margicates553

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Im 100% convinced being a “trad wife” is a kink for these women. This shit feels unreal.

@bisexualmajima

Жыл бұрын

Literally it's just breeding kink mixed with an aesthetic

@LunnarIgnis

Жыл бұрын

Bem, na verdade é bem suave. Limpar a casa, ficar explorando receitas e tentar cuidar ao máximo da pessoa que você ama. É algo prazeroso de fazer.

@jaclo3112

Жыл бұрын

I grew up on a trad fundy christian churches with real trad wives. And as in thr past, these trad communities are riddled with domestic violence, poverty, rape, paedophilia, adultery (esp the men). Which is a feature of patriarchal, male headship cultures, not a bug. The women have broken bodies from being constantly pregnant and popping out 6-12 kids. Theh also can't cook. I don't know why but being unable to cook is a major feature of real life trad wives.

@Justsomeguy42069

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, 100% women get off on this.

@xenia4817

Жыл бұрын

I can understand it to an certain extent. I love the idea of having a family and loving husband. I love to take care of people I love but I will never put my husband above myself. We‘re all a equal party and I still want financial safety and education without being dependent on another human being.

It’s so funny and frustrating how some people are so close to realizing the problem is capitalism but end up directing that blame at feminism or brown people instead.

@obvv7714

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 did you even watch the video?

@espeon871

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 it makes people constantly work so they cant do what they want for eg cuz profit> anything bruv watch the vid

Trad-wife love apparently is a completely transactional relationship.

@99alexisagc

Жыл бұрын

Thats literally every marriage 🤦🏻‍♂️

@charliemarkovic4301

Жыл бұрын

That’s pretty much every relationship.

@82892869hi

Жыл бұрын

@@charliemarkovic4301 I’m sad for you and the guy above you, maybe one day you’ll find true love and be less bitter

@charliemarkovic4301

Жыл бұрын

@@82892869hi yes you are a pretty sad sort of clown.

@hwago123

Жыл бұрын

@@99alexisagc and even moreso in the rest of the world...

Why can’t triad wife truely do what they preach, and stay at the house and be quiet. If I wanted to hear this, I would ask her husband.

@kevray

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@avapilsen

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Using their own logic, they should not be on YT. They should also have many children and no tattoos. They should be showing much less skin too....

@medusachristo4234

Жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣👌Yup

yooo being submissive in relationships in this day in age is gonna get you shit on by the dudes that hate women they dont want you to work or to stay at home they just want to treat you like shit no matter what you do…

@hwago123

Жыл бұрын

not necessarily.

@claude2571

Жыл бұрын

Being a "submissive woman" is itself a derogatory role. People have always hated women. And forcing people you hate into submission so they can lap up your piss is nothing new

In my experience, lawyers are married to other lawyers, dentists are married to other dentists.

“your quarterly wife review came back, and you spent an alarming amount of time off task…”

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

"can you explain this tiktok account?"

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

i have to change to a 20 years younger employee, there is nothing i can do....

@hellenmuka7207

Жыл бұрын

Me: (quiet quitting)

The first clip is actually so funny, so much contradiction, mixed messaging, misinformed arguments, its fucking amazing

@JavHos98

Жыл бұрын

The actual and only message in that clip is that feminism has failed women! Don’t need to analyze every bit of it!

@JavHos98

Жыл бұрын

@Jean Sanchez thank you for explaining me what Hassan said for 20 minutes in this video!

@Deadrum

Жыл бұрын

@@JavHos98 it’s hilarious that you clearly needed it explained to you lmao. ‘How dare you analyze past the utter base level 1 idea this video poorly presents!’

@JavHos98

Жыл бұрын

@Jean Sanchez no I just played this video on high volume for my neighbors to listen 😊😐

@JavHos98

Жыл бұрын

@@Deadrum some people just wanna show that they know better than u even if you guys are on the same page!

Ummm... The main narrative that comes from traditional house wives of the 50s and 60s is how completely miserable, beaten down, and alone they were.... But sure.

I hate the shaming of "birth control" pills, which are often used for reasons other than birth control. Personally I and many women and teen girls take the pill to regulate our cycle and the side effects of an irregular cycle. "Birth control won't fix hormones" but it literally fixed mine. Also the idea that every feminist is on the pill and irresponsibly having sex with a bunch of people all the time and incapable of meaningful and committed relationships is so narrow minded and just incorrect.

@readtheroom831

Жыл бұрын

Agree 👏🏼👏🏼

@TheCoralie87

8 ай бұрын

💯 Perhaps some of it is wanting to control women.

"You get to sit in a cubicle all day" is the least relatable statement I've ever heard.

@cubicpsychotic5616

Жыл бұрын

I wish we still had cubicles. An entire space all to yourself? Sign me up

@Treebeard1992

Жыл бұрын

@@cubicpsychotic5616 you mean I can make $50-70k a year sitting in an office for 8 hours a day?? Damn dude I thought $25k for absolutely back breaking labor was the best I could hope for!

@SuicidalKamikaze

Жыл бұрын

@@Treebeard1992 genuinely. Like damn I want a job like that, I’d sell my soul to a boring cubicle for the ability to be secure financially

@TheCoralie87

8 ай бұрын

Yes; thought that all work is white collar.

She sounds like the sort of person who gets "really" into things. It's like a hobby addiction. Her first hobby was lifting but it's too masculine. Her new hobby is being a SAHM.

@Romanticoutlaw

Жыл бұрын

my autismdar was pinging hard. At least my own special interest of writing bad borderlands fanfiction isn't about shaming other people into doing it too lol

@JasmineTea127

Жыл бұрын

She also gives me horse girl vibes lamo

@doeeyes2

Жыл бұрын

And revolves her entire life around her partner. Quote" "i lost 20 lbs after my breakup with my boyfriend"

@lopoa126

Жыл бұрын

@@doeeyes2 the Tiktok trend where girls think it is a W to show "his gf vs his ex" when they are clearly showing how much the guy impacted them 🤣

@davishropshire5361

Жыл бұрын

She’s lost

“Your boss wants to sleep with you in a good way.” Wtf you mean in a good way? There is no difference between being an employee giving forced sexual favours to your boss and your husband forcing sex because both are people who are in control of your income.

@RedPandaNinja6886

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 The inherent comparison to sleeping with a boss automatically sets the undertone that the wife in this scenario has reduced ability to consent though inbalanced power. It is such a weird comparison for her to make that speaks volumes. Tradfem rhetoric has so much emphasis on submission to your husband that it’s almost inevitable that women are having sex that they may not want all the time just because it’s their “duty” to please and submit to their husbands. It’s gross. You can love someone and not want to have sex with them sometimes but husbands in this dynamic inherently benefit from a structure in which they have control of their wife.

@kinghassy334

Жыл бұрын

@@septcinq1931 she's the one comparing it to a boss, she clearly doesn't see it as just husband and wife but also as a boss employee

Trad relationship is like D/s kink in a lot of ways. Can be very gratifying when consent, communication, and respect is involved. Can be extremely traumatic and damaging when those things are not involved

@TheCosmicFailure

Жыл бұрын

The thing is that most husbands dont respect these women.

@espeon871

Жыл бұрын

Its like kink but bad

A misconception that being a housewife means submission and lack of agency. My grandma was an actual '50s housewife (who also had the choice to work outside the home). She most definitely wasn't the perpetual doormat these women aspire to be. She choose to be a homemaker and could kick literal ass if needed.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

no youre right. these women wanna be the doormat and even back then quite a few were. but this is exactly what these redpill tiktok'r want. is these types of women. they dont appreciate themselves enough so they'll just have a man tell them what they are to them.

@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife

Жыл бұрын

Cool grandma

@rpedits4507

5 ай бұрын

Based Granny

When I was a kid, our next door neighbor was a housewife. I distinctly remember my mom and I talking to her on the sidewalk one afternoon, and then the sudden fear on her face when she realized that her husband was on his way home and she was behind on cooking dinner. After that, my mom constantly stressed the importance of never being financially reliant on a man. As a woman, you need your own money in case you ever need to leave a situation with a bad partner.

@hahajustforfun9805

Жыл бұрын

Just because it happened to her doesn’t mean it would happen to you

@gwop827

7 ай бұрын

@@hahajustforfun9805 It shouldn't be happening at all...

@FRANKONATOR123

3 ай бұрын

@@gwop827 why?

@gwop827

3 ай бұрын

@@FRANKONATOR123 are you ok in the head?

@FRANKONATOR123

3 ай бұрын

@@gwop827 yeah, are you??

This is what happens when you can't even imagine a different way of organizing society.

@mcslender2965

Жыл бұрын

What not reading theory does to a mf

@claude2571

Жыл бұрын

Oh god this is so important. They realize default settings are failing them so they go back to like, windows 7 with 3 trillion vulnerabilities to viruses

Feminism definition: A range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes. Feminism definition according to tradwives: blue hair and septum ring

@cdhsjsa2294

Жыл бұрын

Lmao people know what the definition is and feminism is stupid simply because of equality because in reality men and women aren’t equal. Definitions Equal- being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.

setting aside the fear of becoming financially dependent on my partner and also never wanting children, then becoming a stay at home partner sounds awesome tbh. but the reality is very few families are able to rely on a single parents income in 2022.. so these tiktoks just feel like a weird flex lol

@seanceknowles2911

Жыл бұрын

We can only do it because we are minimalistic, not like a trend or anything, like genuinely.

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

If we take it as a good faith argument against society, I actually think they have a really good point

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

@@dansheffield4021 like what?

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

@@princegobi5992 focusing on home life and family instead of working for the man... to me it seems kind of obvious that that is part of the critique from their perspective, at least in the first video

@MariaThePotterNut

Жыл бұрын

It sounds boring to be stuck around the house all day. Do laundry once a week, sweep every few days, windows twice a month, water the garden, dinner ready when partner comes home, what else do you do with your life? Like not having to work and having all your needs paid for by someone else, who you (hopefully) love and who is happy to support you emotionally as well as monetarily, that sounds great! But what you're "supposed" to do for the trade off sounds pretty awful.

I'm a SAHM and the last thing I would call myself is submissive. If you're husband is an actual good person you don't have to bow to his every whim and treat him like a God for him to support you to stay home. I'm still a feminist because feminism is about women doing whatever they want and not only existing in relation to men. I do not "work for my husband" like that dingbat in the back of the car said.

@davidaraujo57558

Жыл бұрын

That's not what being submissive is. You're not a slave you're a wife. Men wants wives not "partners"

@PartnershipsForYou

Жыл бұрын

@Adrian Mendoza Wrong.

@dedederp2693

Жыл бұрын

She’ll understand the day her superficial attitude gets to her husband and he back hands her, she’s in the honey moon phase. As a woman in my late twenties I typically don’t listen to other women my age on their opinion of life, I listen to women in their 40s, 50s, 60s and older, the ones with stories about how they spent months planning to leave their husbands with their children at one point. It’s easy to talk about life when you haven’t really lived that long.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

@@davidaraujo57558 dont ever get married if you think thats going to work. as a married man i will tell you thats not how you should view it. unless you just want that dingbat in the back of the car. she'll happily accept it.

@haleydarko2989

Жыл бұрын

@@davidaraujo57558 I never said wives were slaves...very interesting that you'd make that connection on your own.

TradWife: I have to work AND clean the house 😮‍💨 Single people: Yes. Yes we do.

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

Taking care of a house with a partner and kids is not the same as taking care of yourself

@readtheroom831

Жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

1. lots of women were majorly depressed back then 2. colored hair first became popular in the 50's lmao

like here’s the takeaway though: domestic labour should be compensated.

@nuudelz3711

Жыл бұрын

UBI would help with this. It would give families the option.

@JazzySaint

Жыл бұрын

Are there countries/companies/etc. that have done this? The closest thing I can think of is South Korea - according to a Blomberg article, families will eventually get paid $740 USD/month if they have a newborn baby... but apparently, the government is doing that because the birth rates are so low there. I think it's a great idea, just curious what it would look like!

@rehman1833

Жыл бұрын

By who? We should try to remove the Market from personal relationships. Domestic labour should be equally shared

@bhavya5692

Жыл бұрын

And respected.

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

the husbands already compensate the wife for her domestic labor or do you want 2 incomes for the stay at home wife? and zero for the man, since the money goes to wife?

It's mad weird how the lady was like you need to work for the guy you want like a lawyer or dentist! Most people don't go around choosing their mate like that! Lol

@dedederp2693

Жыл бұрын

It’s psychotic actually, and it’s actually fairly sad for her husband because he is not a dynamic figure in her eyes, just a collection of superficial qualities she can easily quantify.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

@@dedederp2693 imagine her having to climb on top of him because its time to service him like a car dealership.

@marty5182

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what world you live in but a majority of women, 100% do choose their mate based on money/job title.

@jerredjones9900

Жыл бұрын

@@marty5182 Thats a pretty incel take my guy. Good to know that 0 people who are not making 100k plus are married or in a relationship lol

@TrueHimbo

Жыл бұрын

@@marty5182 just because you put a percentage next to your insane statistic, it doesn’t make it true

Most women don't really have the privilege to choose to be a housewife 😬

@pr23487

Жыл бұрын

Yet they blame women and feminists for this issuen

Hear me out here... A world where both parents could work less than what is now average and still support a family, thereby providing them the time and finances to manage affairs at home such as laundry, relationships, and hobbies. Is that too much to ask?

Reject tradwife embrace dommy mommy gf

@keylanoslokj1806

Жыл бұрын

No

@PartnershipsForYou

Жыл бұрын

Uhhh hello, based department? He’s loose again.

@xh3NNIN9x

Жыл бұрын

Is this some niche porn category?

@chetmanley1885

Жыл бұрын

Throw in a weekly pegging and you've got a deal.

@oksanarose6879

Жыл бұрын

slay 💅🏻

Women in the 1950's sacrificed a lot just so that Republican women could say Nan that's actually lit.

You want to be a trad wife, be a trad wife. You want to promote it, go ahead but don't complain about feminism when your beef is really with capitalism.

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

True, but it also annoys me that a lot of leftists identify with women (i.e., second income) in the workplace as "freedom"

@raskov75

Жыл бұрын

@@dansheffield4021 Are you ok? There was a time when that option _did not exist_ . Making sure women _can_ work those jobs for whatever reason they want does increase their freedom. This isn't hard.

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

@@raskov75 is you ok? Women were encouraged to work en masse making the job market more competitive, wages lower, divorce rates higher, children neglected etc.... work is not freedom unless the product belongs to you

@dansheffield4021

Жыл бұрын

@@raskov75 it goes beyond women being able to work to women MUST work

@raskov75

Жыл бұрын

@@dansheffield4021 Women have always worked, a; and b, yes being further inculcated into the capitalist machine is less than ideal but welcome to earth, know what I mean? So they might as well have greater freedom within the broken frame we have. Was it better before? Tell me them having no say was preferable, if you have the balls. Jesus christ. Give my regards to TikTok.

The most perfect trad wife I know. The sweetest, most beautiful, skilled, smart woman was left by her perfect husband for his older, mediocre looking secretary two weeks after she had their third baby. I was shocked. So no, being a trad wife may not be all that.

@rossthomson1958

Жыл бұрын

You choose a unique situation and said “well it happened to someone I know so that must mean it will happen to everyone else, now woman don’t choose were you want to be just get a 9-5 and become a slave to your employer”

@katzensindweich3505

Жыл бұрын

@@rossthomson1958 No. Just be careful and don't become dependent on a husband. The mentioned example was the norm in the 70s.

@rossthomson1958

Жыл бұрын

@@katzensindweich3505 what’s wrong with being dependent on a husband and putting your family first over a 9-5

@katzensindweich3505

Жыл бұрын

@@rossthomson1958 You do it then. Who is stopping you? You will see how much fun it is to have to ask for an allowance.

@rossthomson1958

Жыл бұрын

@@katzensindweich3505 I’m not a woman😂 I think trad wife’s care more about their kids life than the potential of working a boring 9-5 earning poor pay.

imagine thinking that 50s were better xD

@liveandletdie7187

Жыл бұрын

I honestly think they were.. This nonsense that women go through now is utterly disgusting.. I did both the stay at home stuff and working and I can truly say that staying home is the most awesome fing thing ever.. I have to clean but I dont cook. My husband is at home 2 days a week and he makes good money.. I sit around all day and spend it. I am not sexually active so I dont have to do anything dirty to get money.. I just text my husband and say "I need 300 dollars" of course he will say he has bills to pay so I just cuss him out on the next text and soon enough he sends me money😄f work and f liberation... I am living the good life

@trollnerd

Жыл бұрын

It's easy to pick a time period and idealize it especially when you never actually had to live in it. One day these times will be idealized by someone who thinks we're better off now than they are.

@adityashah9480

Жыл бұрын

@@liveandletdie7187 lets be real here being a trad wife in 2022 is not equal to being a trad wife in 1950, and the thing is cost of living is a lot more now (thanks to capitalism) than it was back then so most house holds need to have both parents working, and these tiktoks instead of addressing these issues are blaming everything on feminism

@rfb5206

Жыл бұрын

@@liveandletdie7187 Having a rich husband makes it easy

@burger9788

Жыл бұрын

@@adityashah9480 When will this stupid gender war end. It just brings out the worst in people

also, love how they never show most of these 'husbands' are a good 20 to 25 years their senior and have a few on the side.

@medusachristo4234

Жыл бұрын

FemSapien"s husband Is older than her. So you nailed It

Jokes on them. I'm a housewife WITH purple hair. Lol, and a husband who loves me and has no problem doing housework too. Damn you feminism! Forcing me to have a husband that respects me as a person!

@ithinkiknowme6450

Жыл бұрын

This ❤

My grandmother was a ideal 60s house wife. She married an older man at 21. Barely finished her regular education. Worked a typing job for $2 an hour. And got mocked by her husband for being over weight her whole life. Btw she’s 4’8 and a very small woman. My grandpa made her sign a contract not to “have any more kids after 2”. Got angry when they had two more and then bemoaned years later that they did have more. She doesn’t know how to function in the modern world. She’s never done her own taxes (not that my grandpa did them well either). She was the care taker for her blind and dying husband for two years and then left with his crumbled estate and poor finical choices. She technically stopped working regular jobs after her 2nd kid but worked a desk job for my grandpas newspaper and kept working on any other job like running rentals house (sanding, cleaning and fixing them) until today at the age of 78. I don’t think anyone should follow her example of life just because they can idealize the lack of personhood she’s lived her whole life with. She loved her husband. She loves her kids but damn it not so simple as getting to stay home and do nothing for the rest of your days. Family rant over. I can always point to her as. Look 👀 that’s what you want. That’s the outcome. And hers is practically ideal to many other women of her era.

If it’s all about getting the housework done, why can’t it be a stay at home husband then? Who cares who’s doing it, as long as it’s getting done. Most people today can’t afford to be a stay at home parent anyway.

@bhavya5692

Жыл бұрын

Because misogyny, it's really bad.

The internalized misogyny in these tiktoks is just mindboggling

“Your boss wants to sleep with you…. In a good way!” 🤨

"There is nothing stopping them from doing this themselves" But see, that's the problem. That's not what its about. They want EVERYONE to be forced to go back to this. They can't stand when people are happy outside of classical/traditional/conservative values and beliefs.

the stepford wife one had me screaming. even the original 75 movie (and 72 book by Ira Levin) was against the fakeness of the lives of tradwives. So much for individualistic expression.

I've always found it interesting when people respond to idea of women wantinh to work with "working sucks, is that really what you want??". It's like responding to men wanting fair treatment during custody trials with "children suck, they waste your money and time, is that really what you want??". Its not about the challenges of being a parent or working, its about fairness.

@bhavya5692

Жыл бұрын

And so shitty to say that father's can't love or raise their children just like a mom.

If staying home was so wonderful, men would have taken that role hundreds of years ago. Why would those in power willingly do a less desirable job?

Basically read "The Yellow Wallpaper" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman for a more round about idea of what women of the past were going through. Those women were beyond miserable, suffering, and desired freedom from their roles. These tradfems have no idea what the horrors of the times for women truly were, and are misplacing their anger about capitalism.

Trad fem shit is wild. I'm a part-time Union prop builder, full-time house husband and my partner is a full time mental health therapist. I make all home cooked meals, do all the home repairs and take care of sick kids, it's fucking hard work and super stressful and when I do have to leave out of town for my paid job it feels like a mini vaca.

@williamleerobles3526

Жыл бұрын

Yo a fellow iatse member, I'm a 720 local.

@larkinpaul

Жыл бұрын

@@williamleerobles3526 Hell Yeah Brother! IATSE local 52 out of NYC.

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

yeah its a lotta work. me and the wife both work full time iam751 here and shes a self employed LPN and has been for 20 years. and we have 3 boys 10 8 and 4 if i do half the work does this make me a....Trad daddy?

@larkinpaul

Жыл бұрын

@Trøüt bro chill, I was just making the point that many trad fems downplay the stress and romanticize being a stay at home parent or partner.

@wecx2375

Жыл бұрын

Nah, it's not hard work. You are just lazy.

Execute people who use the term “hubby”

I have just never understood how they magically blame feminism for this "sudden and unexpected" change in the landscape of women.

Notice how when they talk about career, they list retail, customer service etc. You can have a better job then that! God damn

I feel like people still make their own breakfast in 2022. In fact I'm watching this while making breakfast right now. Very first point and she's already lost me

Here’s something, I wish my wife could be a stay at home mom. Idk how I’m going to pay for daycare. It would be nice if only one spouse made enough to buy house, cars, and kids through school? Maybe fix the ducking economy and pay people

Someone on Twitter also shared the rates of barbituate use in those times, as well as how a majority of lobotomised patients were women. So there's that.

I love watching judgy sahm tiktoks stitched by divorce lawyers talking about how financially dangerous it is to have no income/work experience after 20yrs of marriage when many of these women eventually seek divorce Also the tradfem's seem to target feminists's criticism of their dependent lifestyles as a way to shift their focus from how tradmen inherently look down on them and their contributions, they're heavy in denial about how any kind of equality has been achieved

I keep trying to get away from all these weird dating/relationship extremes but they keep popping up. it's crazy how these ideas are growing

I’ve never seen an older housewife on the tradwife tag on Tiktok. Where are they if that lifestyle is so good? It’s always a bunch of 20 year old white women married to some poor guy in the military or something lol

1:45 Her going "that sounds kinda gross actually" at the thought of having sex with many different men is the female equivalent of men going "all men are insatiable beasts that just want sex". I mean, it applies to me (sadly), but I know plenty of men who are the opposite of this. I always assumed that even those timid guys secretly hold that fantasy in their mind to fuck as many women as possible, until I heard them say it explicitly that they don't. It's easy to think when you conform to the stereotypes that everyone is like you are. Also 1:53 "totally wrecks your hormones": just use a condom if you're not in a relationship for god's sakes, it's not difficult. That pill ain't protecting you from stds.

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

The women at Woodstock 50+ years ago seemed to enjoy themselves so to each his/her own lol

@Sara-sn5gd

Жыл бұрын

Oh god, I hate the fear mongering about the pill. Yes it can have a lot of negative effects that you should be informed about. Yes it will not work for everyone. But for me who has wrecked hormones to begin with us a godsent!

I think I would rather die than have a tradwife. Imagine marrying with someone who doesn't want to give you any advice or teach you anything, they just wait on you all day. oof. these guys don't want a wife, they want a mommy.

I'll never understand what's so difficult about just striving for & living ones preffered lifestyle without blaming &/or belittling others choices. If these particular "tradwives", are truly happy why are they on social media trying to prove it -- which is a contradiction in itself. Nonetheless, if that's what makes them feel content, cool. C'est la vie. Edit: corrected to say understand*.

@luisjayson

Жыл бұрын

The same reason feminist are on tick tock talking about it, to promote a movement. Let people be. If they want to be strong and independent feminist cool, if they want to be housewife cool also.

@theinvisiblewoman5709

Жыл бұрын

When you aren’t happy with your lifestyle options you have to tear down others to make yours seem better. It’s clear she coasted off her looks not her mind (not just because her TikTok’s are stupid) so she limited herself to what her appearance could provide. Women who have more to offer than their body aren’t wailing 24/7 about how terrible modern relationships are they are wailing 24/7 about capitalism

@Froggy77100

Жыл бұрын

@@luisjayson I can understand it's their way of promoting their movement. What I stated I didn't understand was their feeling it was necessary to blame &/or belittle others choices in order to do so. I think you may have missed my last two sentences because you basically repeated them.

@luisjayson

Жыл бұрын

@@Froggy77100 the irony in your message. Not even worth debating have a good day

@Froggy77100

Жыл бұрын

@@luisjayson Same to you.

My wife HAS TO stay at home because child care is just too expensive. It's pointless to use a daycare when it would cost half your salary.

i love the bit with the "we have pills for depression jsut take those!!" joke....babe.........those women were heavily medicated......they know what prescription drugs for depression are.......babe..........they couldn't handle life without them

I was a stay at home wife, no kids for about 6 months and I thought I was going to go crazy. I was in school and my husband started making enough so I could just focus on only my studies. I got a job not for the income but because I needed to challenge my mind beyond dishes, laundry and school work.

Why aren't they pregnant? Why aren't they cooking? Why aren't they cleaning?

My grandma (an actual 50s wife) would hate these chicks. She pushed all of her kids to go to university & get good jobs... She was raising 9 kids (every time she went to get her tubes tied she was pregnant lol and got sick from the pill), going to get her degree in teaching, teaching part time, and helping my grandpa on their ranch.. First vid is full of it too- she tried ‘diet pills’ (aka literal speed) and stayed up for 3 days and re-floored their whole house.

My moms a “trad wife” she complains all the time “I feel like my only purpose in life is to be a maid!” And my dad says “ people only want me for my money” well as much I love them…. My dads the only one who made money when I was a kid, who else was I supposed to go to? And mom… you don’t have a job so what else are you supposed to do..?

the first lady is saying that working sucks but feminism isn't forcing women to do these things it's giving women the choice to do these things.

From a person who comes from a place of "traditional marriages" n knows what happens when these don't work out as you want them to, i wanna say these people come from a place of pure privilege that a lot of women especially in the East do not enjoy.

abby shapiro-core

Turns out you can't get married today. You HAVE to be single and have cats. I'm learning a lot today

@KuroInu1213

Жыл бұрын

damn cuz I really wanted a dog😔

@smaakjeks

Жыл бұрын

@@KuroInu1213 No dog for you!

@janel.8921

Жыл бұрын

My single niece has a cat, a dog, and a bearded dragon.

This is so funny when I see these videos or whatever because they are mainly showing white families. Black women in those times regularly worked outside the home and both parents worked FAAAAAR from their homes. It was nearly impossible for black women to be stay at home mothers due to low wages for black people so every time I see these women yapping about not working and going back, I have to put myself in the shoes of black women back then that it was still pretty much the same except I would have to leave my children and my home to help raise their children and take care of their fucking homes. No thanks, I’m okay where I’m at.

@Redmanticore

Жыл бұрын

"Black parents worked FAAAAAR from their homes. " are you saying black men stayed with their families and worked for their families? why that isn't happening anymore? are you saying black families suffered the most from feminism? curious. black single parenting has exploded compared to 50s... i am dead serious when i say black families had it better with conservativism than today..

@annhilator55

Жыл бұрын

​@redmanticore maybe its something to do with the number of black men in prison instead of "yeah I'm sure the time when neither the mother or the father were at home was better"

@sweetb2750

Жыл бұрын

@@Redmanticore yea your response tells me that you do not have the capacity to actually have an in-depth conversation on why black conservatism is a joke. I recommend watching F.D Signifier if you really have good intentions on not spewing diarrhea of the mouth.

My sister is a tradwife because she _chose_ to be. She went to college, was successful in her art career, and still does commissions sometimes; she could've had a real career supporting herself. She chose to become a tradwife, she was not forced by her husband. And she would NEVER try to force this lifestyle on others. She knows that this lifestyle isn't for everyone, but its the one she chose. She wasn't pressured by my parents, her husband, her church, anyone.

@et9120

Жыл бұрын

Your sensible viewpoint isn't welcome here, because he has to cater to his viewers opinions otherwise his channel and income will be cancelled.

@Lichenroc

Жыл бұрын

@@et9120 Nah this viewpoint is definitely welcomed here and I think Hasan is against this tradwife thing since it's being politicized and being glorified as being better than modern feminism. Plus conservatives are conservatives for a reason they plan on changing modern liberal societies to match their social conservative worldview which not everyone wants or supports.

It is easier to be beaten by your spouse than imagine the end of capitalism

What's funny about the first video to me is that both my wife and I work full-time jobs, but I am the one who does most of the cooking and cleaning. The reason is that I enjoy cooking and cleaning and she is a preschool teacher, while I work in software, so her job is much more demanding. But we entered marriage with the mindset that it is a partnership and we need to work together.

Is this the communist guy too Afraid to fight that Nazi guy?