One tip: Once you have assembled a set of bump keys, you should make multiple extra copies of each one prior to filing them down. That way if you mess one up, you still have backups. Also, when I took my bump keys to Home Depot to be reproduced, their digital machine would not make them. The machine apparently recognized what they are. I subsequently went to a small hardware store and had them hand cut with no questions. Keep your original bump keys separate and marked as "originals." Only use the copies. Keep the originals as masters.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

I was able to duplicate mine at Lowe's. One thing it's not going to do though is cut down the tip but you might have to file it

@ashleymarie7452

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker Home Depot had an electronic key cutting machine. It apparently recognized the bitting as being that of a bump key and would not reproduce it.

@AokLocksmiths

Жыл бұрын

Great advice !

@SadisticPicker

2 ай бұрын

Man thats messed up! They shouldve made them regardless of bitting. Like saying sorry you cant have this crow bar as ya might rip open doors…. Better, sorry cant have this pair of bolt cutters because ya might cut locks😳🫣

You know what bro? I LOVE YOU! Locksmith Apprentice.

Thanks for demonstrating this; I have the “standard” shoulder-filed-back bump keys but noticed the bump ring getting pushed off that angle. Awesome to see that the missing link is just some extra filing!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out and I am glad it helps!

Great video I think you missed a very important part to use while bumping if you put a plastic or metal washer on the key first it stops the ring from being split by the key make the rings last much longer 👍🏻

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thank you for sharing this tip

@thecrappylockpicker4696

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker that why were here isn’t it to help people get the best out of lockpicking 👍🏻

@kyleavitt

10 ай бұрын

Can you share the product name or sku?

@thecrappylockpicker4696

10 ай бұрын

@@kyleavitt for what bud ?

This is indeed a handy video! Well explained and straight forward information. Thank you!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it was helpful for you :-)

So not a Jelly donut then?! I’ve never tried bump keys but love the idea - nicely presented

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out. They are fun 😄

Cool video - I invented this technique (and can prove that if anyone really cares) but I would suggest using a larger Dampener -more of a grommet type ring - because then you can turn it while striking the key and you don't need to worry about getting the turning timing right. It also makes sense to have a selection of different width Dampeners so you can be sure to have many combinations to get the correct depth. required for whatever lock you're bumping.

@HelpfulLockPicker

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your tips with this!

@DangerfieldChris

Жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker A pleasure. You're 'helpful' angle rubbed off on me.

Awesome information! Thanks!

Excellent video. I was wondering why I was having trouble with using bump keys with the rings. Very helpful. Thanks!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for checking it out and I'm glad it helped :-)

Great video! Thanks for sharing. Cheers

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 😀

Laborious and advantageous, I see you got that word of the day calendar for Christmas

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Ring or multiple rings are KEY😝🤷🏼. Great demonstration man!

Great video. Thx !!

@HelpfulLockPicker

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

Great video and tip!!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 😀

@Twobarpsi

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker yessir!!

Very neat. I got my "rings" at a local farm store. Wish you had laid the 2 keys on top of each other to better see how much was filed off (don't worry I'll figure it out). Thanks for the video.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out and I wish you luck on your modifications!

@bleach_drink_me

2 жыл бұрын

These look like fuel injector o-rings

This is some awesome thxs for the simple info what bitting is a bump key.? Is it a 9 cut all the way?

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

It is whatever the "maximal depth" of the lock is. Schlage is 9, Kwikset is 7, American Lock is 8 for example

It always looks so easy in the videos. I’ve never had any success close to what’s in this video

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

It could be technique or just the lock. It's certainly something that can be done :-)

@bradt7451

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it but I have a bump hammer similar to yours and it feels cheap and like plastic. It doesn’t have any “oomph” behind it

@bradt9350

3 жыл бұрын

​@@bradt7451 These bump hammers are designed to rebound back out of the way of the key. They work much better for shotgunning as he was demonstrating. Using a screwdriver handle or "dead blow hammer" just make you really work for it... You don't really need a lot of OOMPH, just a sharp quick blow, or a few. TIP OF THE DAY: TRY USING a flexible tension tool inserted through the head or bow of the key instead of using FINGER TENSION, until you are that good. IT FREEs UP THE MOVEMENT of the KEY and allows it to DO ITS THING. You even get twice the pin action... Once going in, and then again on the rebound coming back out of the keyway when shotgunning with a bounce ring... Give it a try. Wait till you see how well that works for you. Cheers and good luck, all

@bradt7451

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradt9350 you sound pretty knowledgeable. I’m very curious now.

@bradt7451

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradt9350 can you PM me? I’m interested in more details

Do you have to file or cut the points on your bump key? Or is it just a standard blank key?

Nice video explaining bumping. So, only standard pin locks?

@Operator-qg7gz

3 жыл бұрын

my guess only for standard pin locks

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

You can bump locks with security pins it is just harder.

that donut makes it that much easier

@HelpfulLockPicker

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing

I have a key blank mate, but no idea how to cut keys. I watched your video on the MACS, So know you have a key cutter, is there anyway of making a bump key without having access to a key cutting machine? Cheers in advance.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can hand file them Look up a video on that topic. I think "Darl Arts Lock Picking" (DALP) did one

rubber fruity circles, fun for party pranks, snack pranks and breakfast cereal lover pranks!!! figured i would go the less controversial route, maybe toy car replacement tires

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, thanks for checking it out :-) and I look forward to hearing from you once your locks come in

@j.gabriel8573

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker i think you will like what i am gonna send you. i will also enclose a prepaid envelope, i bought a master lock 19 and i dont think you have picked one. it' of course, the collectable kind that are about the size of a 12 oz soda can. i wanted to let you have the first whack at it and once you pick it, you can end it back to me prepaid shipping so i can give it a go after you have had a successful few picks and ready to send it back. its suppose to ship out on the 15th and hopefully within a couple weeks after that, i will be hearing something from allpadlocks. there was a slight hang up on my initial order. i was selecting by brand, and chose american locks but for some reason going after 6 pin; it had shown up as 5 pin master locks, but after clearing up the the error; the invoice was submitted on the 5th and since they are being built by american lock to the pin cuts were customize and not factory set, will take 3-4 weeks, plenty of time to see something else to put in there. should be getting time for that 2nd shot on the vaccine, hope it goes well. be safe and take care.

I would like to thank you for showing us both of the methods you mentioned in the video, the bump key with the ring and the bump key without the ring and I would like to thank very truly much for telling us that we can use whatever method is best for us, the method with the ring or the method without the ring. I am not sure what I will use, but I'm leaning toward the rubber ring method, but I may go without. It all depends on all of the factors concerned with the totality of circumstances at the time.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thank you for the kind words and I am glad that seeing both methods help :-)

Hi HLP! I am a newbie question..I bought a set of bump keys from Sparrows, but how do I identify which lock model they belong to? Some do have some numbers printed on them while others do not. How do I know which bump key to use on which lock? Is there a table or site somewhere or a video that explains how to identify locks and their key ways???

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

If the key fits the lock I would give it a try. Are they not labeled KW1, SC1, etc? I haven't looked at mine in a long time

@MrSF247

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPickerI purchased the same set. There were two "sets" in the pack I bought. One is on a dog tag-style key ring/chain. None of them are labeled, though I can see the classic Kwikset and Schlage style in there. The other loose keys in the pack are labeled AR1, AR4, WK2 (5), WK2 (6), WR4, L1010, 1045, Y2, Y4, and 3 with just numbers (4, 8, 9) that look like Schlages, and a smaller one labeled "10" that looks to have a Schlage-style warding. I'm not familiar with most of these keys, though.

@josephsteffen2378

9 ай бұрын

Google keyway types. Etsy seems to have a look lot of information on everything. Remember, most lock mechanism cylinders that are mass produced aren't too secure. Especially the lowest price ones. Yir tougher to pick locks are going to have different keyways and harder to find blanks. I recall that the 1979 Porsche had a huge key, almost like a wrench. Mercedes 5xx series of the same period were similar. Regardless of turning the cylinder, almost all newer vehicles have a fob "interrogator". They "immobilize" the vehicle and enable other security measures. All of those security features are becoming less expensive, more common and more complex.

@pouncerminned863

9 ай бұрын

@@josephsteffen2378 yea I asked over a year ago since then I e been able to identify key ways and the profiles

Thank you - I found some on eBay, 100ct for 5 bucks.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for checking it out I'm glad you're able to find them

Ok this was slightly helpful. I need to file my bump keys. But they still didn't work without the bump ring. I tried both. I didn't wanna damage the kwikset lock. I definitely damaged pins trying as it doesn't like to lock and turn the cylinder to the right unless you wiggle or lift the rear pins with the key.

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you are getting closer

Can you do it with couple of different locks ?

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Do you need to have a certain amount of teeth on your key and can you open any lock with that key or do you need to match the brand of the key and lock? Thanks!

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

You need the key to match the keyway

If you know someone with a pinball machine,they can give you a couple of these rubber rings. They are used on the post in a pinball machine .

@HelpfulLockPicker

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing

it dont have to just be o-rings there is tons of regular plumbing or car rubber o-rings you can get in single or pack of just a couple that are basically the same thing

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for sharing

@Rap_Rat

2 жыл бұрын

fuel injector o-rings

I hope that ring wasn't used for its other purpose before you bumped with it!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, it was new out of the bag!

@EgoStranger

2 жыл бұрын

Pleas tell me what is it

@EgoStranger

2 жыл бұрын

Never mind

Can u make a video on how to hand file

@HelpfulLockPicker

11 ай бұрын

I did make one. There are better videos out there on it but it is something that is fun to learn

how do you tell if you need to turn the key clockwise or counter clockwise?

@HelpfulLockPicker

Жыл бұрын

If it is a deadbolt you turn away from the frame. You just sort of know after enough locks

They are also called o rings, available in thousands of sizes. From hardware store or bearing supplier.

@zagreus5773

8 ай бұрын

That's not an O-ring 😂

Will this work on Best cylinders?

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

I will start off by saying I have never tried. However, they can be raked. If you have the correct key cut the correct way there is no reason why you couldn't but it doesn't mean it would be easy. But the way sfic locks are designed that can prove challenging

@josephwright5921

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker i find the double ball picks work well on Best cylinders

Amazon prime under 10 bucks. No pun intended.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Doesn't bumping a lock damage it as it's more aggressive than raking?

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

It can definitely be a bit more rough however I have not personally broken a lock doing one. One thing that always makes me nervous is you never know if a lock has thin Master wafees which could flip and cause a problem

@roysammons2445

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker That's a very good point.

that's nuts

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@kyleavitt

10 ай бұрын

Technically it’s not nuts

They are also pretty good to put on the HUK tubular picks to give the needles more tension.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing this tip!

@BrettSucks

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker Yer welcome.

What are the depth for a bump key???

That is an ELASTRATOR livestock castration band

Being from Saskatchewan, or Cattle Country, these are readily available and inexpensive. I bought a bag two years ago and still have 90 left.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I dont go through too many myself

How hard are you hitting it?

@HelpfulLockPicker

Жыл бұрын

There is not much force needed

Farmers can get them at the veterinary office or at most farm supply stores

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing :-)

A guy I work with uses a small spring, swears by it and never seen it not work.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Only could buy a pack of a 100. Not sure that I need 100 bump keys but hey! I got some spare rings😂

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

How about "0" rings for the hardware store?

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see why it wouldn't work the principal would be the same

@Rachel_M_

3 жыл бұрын

We call them o rings too. We use them on our racking systems in the warehouse to stop the divider arms coming out of the horizontals.

@justindunlap1235

3 жыл бұрын

The castration bands have a stiffer sturdier rubber and bounce back differently.

@jamkpa

3 жыл бұрын

@@justindunlap1235 Thanks!

Can anyone show me the differences between KW-10 & KW1 up close

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

If you me an email I can send you some pictures. One is 5 pin and the other is 6 pin for one

Oh my gosh so much cheaper to buy him that way

I take full credit lol.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I prefer the orange ones.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing. What do you like more about them?

@BrettSucks

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker The colour 🤣

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrettSucks lol

That is a LiveSaver gummi candy sir.

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Es un empaque

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Gracias

Mmm donuts

@josephwright5921

3 жыл бұрын

What’s up, Homer?

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for checking out my Donuts

Also, _not_ using a ring will ensure that you bang up the keyway and shorten the life of your keys significantly.

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

O rings

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for shairng

Castration rings

I wish I knew about these rings before I met my ex Mrs

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@randommadness1021

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker 🤣🤣 if you want a little more sharing, I'll give you her phone number?

Dang! Castration rings???? I am sure the sheep 🐑🐑🐑 would like locksmiths to use the all up!

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

thank you for sharing

You got his idea from scam school guy

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your thoughts

"Machine Gun" Bumping

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 😀

You can call me drunk but this bump ring is like a way to get a newie beyond belief to be able to bump a lock that anyone is watching this video knows how to bump a lock Edit I'm sorry I may be drunk and little things bother me it just seems like this goes without saying I'm sorry You get a like anyway

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@Vinlaell

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelpfulLockPicker haha you said the same thing the last time I said something drunk But I love you and I love lock picking

@bradt9350

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vinlaell Standard Defensive Response... 2 to the body

Lol if you know their real name those rings are really cheap. 👀🙌

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Looks Like an erectile disfunction device which i (i mean someone i knew) used a few years back.

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Dangerous in the wrong hands this. Someone used this to break into our home and made a video of inside it then when I was unaware and fought off guard I was shown the video because they were trying to get whatever they could on me to try and use against me this person is married to my aunty and she knew about it and covered up for him.

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

People are not supposed to use this on locks in use or ones they don't own

Bro I just heard a s*x pin lock 💀

Not a new technique... Here's a video from 6 years ago. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pHie15ubcqnccZc.html

@HelpfulLockPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@DangerfieldChris

Жыл бұрын

I have videos of me doing this on KZread 15 years ago. I don't think HLP was suggesting it was new - but it's new to people who haven't previously seen it.

"What is this" C'mon, it's obviously a lifesaver candy... How bout a real challenge! (didn't actually watch the video)

@HelpfulLockPicker

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being honest