The bike that everyone loves and wants but knows they won’t use nearly as much as they should.

@michaprz9680

3 жыл бұрын

So true :)

@Mile-long-list

3 жыл бұрын

Negative. I ride mine daily

@tobylestrange4081

3 жыл бұрын

nah i disagree. i would never want one. Maybe a super-enduro like the giga but that's my limit. i would never want a DH bike

@smashyrashy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mile-long-list how is that negative? Hes telling the truth. You're also one of the only ones who does maybe get a job or something

@smashyrashy

3 жыл бұрын

@@tobylestrange4081 ok youre the only one

downhill bike is the bike that everyone needs, but they probably won't use it if they are uphill nerds. I bought DH bike a month ago as my main bike, and I will never regret it!

@harveyjoneswoodsman5956

3 жыл бұрын

Hell I'm 40 and just grabbed the dh bike i wanted when i was in my 20s it still can shred tho so in happy

Ever since I got into bikes as a kid in the early 90’s DH bikes have always been the ultimate in looks, performance and just dam coolness! Every kid in the UK would’ve killed to have an early DH steed like Peaty or Warner.

@Xangoose1

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly this is spot on. I begged and cried for a DH bike for years as a kid. Parents were having none of it 🤣

@rolux4853

3 жыл бұрын

ROB WARNER DYES HIS HAIR

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

You can buy one now for a few hundred dollars- go have some fun.

What "makes them so specialist from everything else in the market" is that you can only ride them with an uplift 😀 which is ok if thats your preference!

From the recent IFHT video: JUST SAY IT. It looooks like aa Seesssioooon xD

@stevenjam7119

3 жыл бұрын

Best bike add ive seen

@prokopsteiner3900

3 жыл бұрын

Ugha bugha

@socas_nic

3 жыл бұрын

@@prokopsteiner3900 Noo WAY. 😂🤣

i'm piecing together a nukeproof dissent at the moment, & i'm soooo stoked on getting it finished before the local park opens up! it will be my first time riding one

it’s cool that you mentioned the difference in bike setup from a pro VS an amateur. It’s like an F1 car. They are built and designed to function at race pace. Anything slower and they don’t work well.

@gbvtt76

3 жыл бұрын

I don't necessarily agree, for instance, they're used in fest series, rampage, for whip offs, and much other use that doesn't imply going as fast as possible. It depends mainly on how your bike is set up (suspension, tire pressure, position, etc...)

@elithe240guy

3 жыл бұрын

@@gbvtt76 ... exactly... the difference in “setup” to make the bike do what the pro wants...

Loved this video! Just got my first DH bike and obsessed! Rides unlike anything else and is just so rad!

Do a "what is a slopestyle bike" episode next

@samdanin4125

3 жыл бұрын

They’ve already done one I think

@connorcampbell144

3 жыл бұрын

@@samdanin4125 Sort of, Blake did a "Could you use a slopestyle bike out on the trail and a quick rundown of specs"

@connorcampbell144

3 жыл бұрын

@@samdanin4125 But I mean like Doddy could do a more in depth look at them just because they are cool

@rolux4853

3 жыл бұрын

Man I remember my Rocky Mountain Slayer SS (Slopestyle) Wade Simmons Signature Edition. That think was so playful and beautiful looking with Wades custom paintjob and crazy decals (mini Wades jumping from a helicopter, north shore trails etc.) I wish I never sold that bike. It was from 2008, had of course 26“ wheels and you could throw it around like no modern bike of today! I wish I could attach a picture from back then to this comment..

Awesome Video! I'd love to see Videos like this for the other mountainbike types as well!

I just installed a downhill Zee brake on my trail bike in the front replacing a basic 2 piston brake. My front wheel is finally fully capable of instantly locking up, like the bike now has the power to stop immediately, I love it.

@RoScFan

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard of ABS? Locking the wheels does NOT mean faster braking.

@mcspikesky

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoScFan having the power to lock it is also important..

@bananasstuff3344

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoScFan having the ability to lick it up means more power, and that almost always translates to faster stopping.

@prokopsteiner3900

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananasstuff3344 Power is nothing without modulation. I would sacrifice some power for better modulation, it's difficult not to lock up your wheels with Shimano brakes when bouncing up all over the place on a DH track. Also, consistency is a big factor.

@bananasstuff3344

3 жыл бұрын

@@prokopsteiner3900 yup, very true. I would always prefer modulation too. I have tried some shimano brakes, but only the lower end ones so I don't want to make any blanket statements about the modulation of their brakes, although I definitely found it poor.

I have a downhill bike, it is a 1999 Saracen team Rush that I built up and put a Sram 1 x 10 drivetrain on, with modern components, I have Michelin and Tioga DH tires from the early 2000's on it that are brand new and no signs of wear that were hung up in my garage

I picked up an older (2011 Demo8) DH bike over the winter and have been bringing it back to life. I've always wanted one and now you can pick up decent old ones for reasonable prices. Looking forward to weekend shuttle laps with friends this spring.

I used to have a Kona Stab when I did DH comps. Loved it.

Had 2 loved them, never again unless I move somewhere suited

Super cool video Doddy. Id like to see a video about super enduro bikes and how or if they can suit most riders for DH and bike parks.

These things are basically the Rock Bouncers (Google it) of the bike world. So cool!

@froz3ntree40

3 жыл бұрын

Very true, except they go downhill

Crazy how much enduro bike have caught up too downhill bikes almost just as good downhill and still fun to pedal and play around on love my mega

Could you do this type of video with all the different types of bikes?

Finally an educated video about downhill bikes, Many thanks

26in for life!!! 2001 Schwinn Straight 8 all day!!!

Reminds me of the Buccaneer aircraft. Designed and built to do one job (carrier-based low level bombing) and do it really well. Like a DH bike, a really tough specialist.

Hey guys you should do a new tech video mid 90s themed and review tech from then like it’s new now I think that would be sweet to watch for a special video👍🏻🔥

Nice in depth look Doddy Now this isn’t necessarily another bike to review, more so relating to the age old rider fit conundrum we all face when buying a new/second hand bike. Im referring particularly to Lee McCormacks famous R.A.D system (rider area distance) I know pros like Sam Hill and the like supposedly use this method to fit their bikes, however, i am interested in your take on this method and seeing how it relates to the average everyday rider who is going to be both focusing on efficient pedalling uphill and bombing downhill tech and gnar. Cheers! 🤙

I always have had a dh bike for the last 20yrs It doesn't get the use it used to pre covid but I wouldnt be without it nothing compares to a dh rig that's set up properly

I'd love a downhill bike, but I also know that in reality I have to get to the top of the hill too. So I'll stick with my aging ibis mojo SL with 26inch wheels. I can hit 36 mph+ in my local woods on my fave downhill bits.

Going to point out that 2 piece rotor is called a floating rotor. Designed that way for thermal expansion so it does not warp the rotor when they get over heated. Contact point between the aluminum and steel is very minimal and is more for weight savings than acting as a heatsink.

Still want one. But no DH tracks around here. Asked Brett Tippie for some advice a while back and have my eyes on a Enduro bike. Like the YT Capra.

With my heart I'd buy a DH bike, with my brain I'd buy an enduro bike. I've had an admiration for DH bikes and their all-out no-nonsense character when it comes to speed ever since I read an article about an urban DH race in a metro station. To me, they are the cycling equivalent of Trophy Trucks: speed in the roughest of terrains above all else. Saddly, there are no lift assisted bikeparks in all of my country (as far as I'm concerned) so I really have no use for a DH bike. Maybe one day when my pockets become deep enough to afford having more than one bike.

Never owned one. I know I guy who works in Moab in the summer. His “xc” bike in the early 00s was a DH bike with around 200mm travel and was like 40lbs. His “big bike” was somehow bigger and heavier than that. He could ride uphill faster than anyone else I knew at the time on his “xc” bike when the rest of us were on actual xc bikes.

It be interesting to test old vs new I got the perfect candidate for the old school 03 trek diesel

That Brendog special though. Sweet bike.

That is a phat bike man

Having spec'd out a lot of bikes, the first thing to acknowledge is the rider, their goals, and abilities. I saw one of the Lacondeguay's hang mid-pack in a WC XC race on a rigid SS in jeans and a t-shirt- for the first two laps...My 2003 Turner DHR got turned into my daughter's first full bore DH bike, and would still fill that role for any small, light rider for at least their first 2-3 years of lift service. Show me a top 50% e.t. and you get a better bike- that's the rule. Turned out, XC was genuinely her thing, so the DHR is available again; don't spend stupid money on 'new' you don't need.

I totally agree with Doddy on this one, D/H riders are the fastest coolest bikers on the hill. Still running 26x 2.30, Z1 BAM Bombers, low saddle, wide bars, gripshift 7 speed. Catch me if you can. Dave Hemmings is the only pro to pass me xxx

Doddy, could I use an eccentric BB to compensate for short chainstays? I'm in between L and XL sizes on a bike I'm interested to buy but I'm worried the short 435mm chainstays will put my weight too far back on the bike. I wonder if a ~6mm shift forward using an EBB would be noticable and comparable to a 441mm chainstay?

Only thing I'd like to have is the forks, with limited steering lock one reason to reducing damaged anyone that's race motor cycle on hard surface will know this, oh and bottom bash plate !

So will we get Neil saying that the Enduro bike is the best and Rich doing the CX and obviously Martin with a Trials. I mean today its Doddy and the coolest bike is DH and yesterday was Blakes love of the Hardtail. I don't mind great videos just wondering.

I didn't knew DH bikes can have a straight tube. Sweet. That means I can put newer DH forks on my old school frame?

Hi doddy I have an 06? Cove peeler dh I'm working on, is there anything you could tell me about cove and the peeler, I paid £280 for the frome and fox 5th Element coil shock, and an extra £180 for marzocchi 888r v2 forks, before I put anymore money into it I'd just like to know what you think about the peeler?

I watch a lot of the Megavalanche and Mountain of hell videos. Are they the same bikes as you're showing us? If not what kind of bike would I need to run those races and not end up in the rear ? Watching these videos it looks like they do sit down at different times. These races are about 16 to 18 miles. The bike you're showing would it let you make it down the track / race? A question not related to the bike ( well it might be ) but some riders have problems with arm and hand / grip fatigue. What could or you should do to cut down or eliminate that fatigue?

XC bike please Doddy 🙏

Guys build your own style bike it's the best ever lol mine is the only one in the UK RACE edition all hand built it rides like a dream haha

Would the Norco Shore be considered a DH bike. Weight was never considered, and with a simple adjustment to the shock it has 190 rear travel, and it has a 63 degree head angle and a longer wheelbase than some DH bikes. I know I would consider it a downhill bike because when I got it and put DVO emerald dual crown forks on it and an eagle drivetrain and 210 dropper my goal was a DH bike that could crawl to the top if needed.

It is a proven fact that if you have a double crown fork it makes you 10% faster

@gbvtt76

3 жыл бұрын

same as if you put flames stickers on your car you gain 5 hp !

@tonio3240

2 жыл бұрын

@@gbvtt76 lmao

Why not talk about Trials Bikes. I absolute love trials bikes as the skills I learn from it help me a great deal on mtb riding also.

Hey man ,in 2015 I got a bike from Poland ,brand ns bikes i can't find anything about it anymore ,?can you check ? Is amodel 2015 ns bikes ,,soda Evo.

I'm surprised someone hasn't picked up an old dirt bike like a yz 125 or something and gutted it for a downhill bike. You could rig up some kind of pedal system prbly. I dunno.

What cap is it you are wearing?

It's a shame that a lot of other bikes don't have the same adjustability, at the mo it's only the specialized Stumpy EVO and I can't bare to buy the Audi of MTB world

Does this bike come already assembled?

More videos on DH bikes for gmbn there's not that many videos on DH bikes or DH bike builds

I think a beefy enduro rig with a dual crown fork at 180/190 would be the perfect one bike

So, is the whole point of a downhill bike to get down the side of the mountain as quick as possible?

Do a "What is a dirt jump bike" video

Doddy is it a good idea to buy a downhill bike and change the drivetrain to 1x12 and add a dropper post and make it an Do it all mtb?

@Mile-long-list

3 жыл бұрын

100%! That's what I've done for years. Awesome for a cruise too so comfy and always able to shred

@mkhitarkhodaverdian7159

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mile-long-list does it climb well?

@smashyrashy

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion mountain bikes dont need to have more than a single chainring at the front its just extra weight and more that can go wrong. Single speed for life

@florianspatz7964

3 жыл бұрын

I’d say 95% of the time a superenduro like the giga is more than enough, and it still pedals well.

@ifthisisyou5125

3 жыл бұрын

It will still pedal like a downhill bike, it is not designed to have a great pedal platform, but rather for the best suspension feel. Die seat tube angle will also be horrible and the bike is quite hefty. I would rather get an enduro bike, if you actually want to pedal the bike.

Video on dirt jump bike.

downhill bike with a martello tyre?

Can you install an xtr or xt groupset on a DH bike so that they can pedal better? Or could you install a twin crown suspension fork on the lightest enduro bike to make it more DH capable?

@Flyinpixel

3 жыл бұрын

You can both things. I am telling you from personal experience

@bananasstuff3344

3 жыл бұрын

You could put a big cassette on a dh bike, but it would still be heavy, the angles would be bad for climbing or pedalling, and the suspension would bob whenever you pedalled. You could put a double crown fork on an enduro bike, but I wouldnt recommend it unless the manufacturer says that it is OK.

@shafhamid83

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananasstuff3344 I can imagine putting a bigger cassette on a DH bike would get you better gearing but due to the geometry & weight of the bike it would still not pedal well. The reason I ask all this is because GMBN did a series in the past describing different types of bikes. I think what they wanted to show is if you could have one do it all bike, what would it be or could there be a most capable MTB out there?. Also VitalMTB did a "downduro" project where they installed a dual crown fork on a long travel enduro bike (180mm). So possibilities are there but they will all be compromised of course

@shafhamid83

3 жыл бұрын

@@Flyinpixel did they work good? I can imagine each would be heavily compromised though

@Flyinpixel

3 жыл бұрын

@@shafhamid83 They work absolutely same, but you have to remove the lower chain guide part (which make the tension on the chain). Btw GMBN made video about this, they put 12 speed shimano groupset and droper post on dh bike.

They should market ebikes as uphill bikes.

I guess I am in an odd minority in that I started mtb on a DH bike and, 17 years later, I only recently got my first “pedal bike” (a Nomad). I still think of DH bikes as being the purest mtb, with everything else being a compromise made to get you to otherwise unreachable goods. In my mind, an Xc is to a DH what Nordic skiing is to alpine skiing,; related but not really the same sport.

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

Waaaay back in the days before 'mountain bikes' even existed, it was careening down hills that made me love bikes.....and skiing!

Can I try one?

I am almost 63 years old, with no experience of DH biking (ever). Just got myself a 2016 Cove Shocker bike, want to compete in MEGAVALANCHE 2023 (on my 65th birthday). any advice would be very useful, Part from (Are you out of your mind) thanks

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

Increased life and health insurance would be your best upgrade.

@ciapak6590

3 жыл бұрын

@@floydblandston108 Dear Floyd, being type one diabetes over 50 years and war zoon photographer for 28 years, that Insurance already expired. My advice for one like you "enjoy life"

Once Warner finishes his retro build you could pit it against a modern dh bike 🤔

I used to run my saddle on my down hill bike extremely low. but that is mostly because I have exceptionally short legs and just need to get it out of the way so when the saddle is less than 10mm from the rear wheel when the suspension is fully compressed is it where I want it to be. but on the statement you put out about the down hill bikes being the coolest bikes do I have to disagree. I used to agree with you until roughly half a decade ago. around that time did I transition from thinking that downhill bikes were the coolest to thinking that the enduro bikes are the coolest. I think they look cooler and the fact that they are nearly as capable down hill whilst still being able to pedal up hill makes them even cooler. but a DH bike is still a close second.

I‘d like to try a downhill bike from rental but here in Germany and Austria it will have the front brake on the left and I ride my bikes the other way round. How is that in Britain? Would a rental bike be front brake on the right? When you buy brakes over there, do they come with the shorter hose on the right?

@-TheRealChris

3 жыл бұрын

Britain is right hand front brake (moto style) same as Australia, surely the rental place will swap them for you? especially since the levers can run either way up so no bleeding is required, and integral gear changers are usually on the clamp bit of the lever so wouldn't be issue either.

@chrisridesbicycles

3 жыл бұрын

@@-TheRealChris I think SRAM had swappable levers (do they still have them?) Shimano has dedicated left and right levers so you have to bleed them.

@itarry4

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisridesbicycles Yhea the shop will swap them, it'll probably take them a few minutes. I'd at least ring. It'd be madness to come here to try a DH from somewhere you have so many mountains. DH bikes, unless you live in about 2 places in Britain, are total over kill these days. Phone local shops and ask. Try shops that hire to tourists as well. If a shop gets a lot of Brits hiring bikes they'll probably already have them set up for them anyway.

@chrisridesbicycles

3 жыл бұрын

@@itarry4 Good point. I will ask in Sölden this summer

Just wowwwwwwwwww

Can you talk about Enduro next, and how it compares to DH ones. Most of us can’t afford To own both bikes so just curious what’s the best one to own

@tomasstraka5244

3 жыл бұрын

if you only ride park and nothing else, then you can go with DH... if you actually pedal sometimes, go for enduro

@harveyjoneswoodsman5956

3 жыл бұрын

Lol most of us can't afford anything gmbn gets lol

@Monyx92

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ve my eye on an enduro/ all mountain but you can easily fall in the rabbit hole with this sport, way too many bikes to choose from, the main GMBN channel posted a video comparing the DH vs Enduro, and essentially proved that nowadays the enduros are so capable that you don’t need a DH anymore, so it’s confusing having this video out glorifying DH again..

@harveyjoneswoodsman5956

3 жыл бұрын

@@Monyx92 regardless ill still enjoy bombing down on my old school dh lol

@bananasstuff3344

3 жыл бұрын

@@Monyx92 different channels, but yeah. I'd get an enduro 99% of the time. Capable, but you could pedal.

whats everyones dream bike brand mines nukeproof

@devourdutty2862

3 жыл бұрын

nukeproof mega to be exact

Trail and enduro are my favorite categories, but the downhill bike means business.

I got a down hill bag and once you feel it go down the hill there's know going back

for me there is a mistakes in this video, and it's considering that downhill = downhill racing. A huge part of the riders that own a DH bike don't even race, we can ride bike park, freeride lines, or even huge jump lines, which doesn't mean going down the mountain as fast as possible, other than that it's pretty complet

@falk.r.h8963

2 жыл бұрын

true but the bikes are designed to go fast even if you dont

@GMBN, one thing I've been wondering about for a while now, is why people flip their bike sideways when jumping (even downhill racers)… it does look cool of course, but is there an actual benefit for throwing your bike sideways?

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

It slows you down, so you can position yourself appropriately for where you're landing and what comes after it.

@Joram0611

3 жыл бұрын

​@@floydblandston108, you mean it slows you down mid air? Whenever I see people do it here on KZread, it feels like they're going to miss the timing to put the bike straight again and land with the pedal sticking into the ground :)

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joram0611 - think of the physics; anything that disrupts the inertia, reduces the speed, which in this case also allows for more precise positioning. The classic example would be Steve Peat vs. 'Big Air' Minaar. Petey rarely flew high or far, using handling and traction to maintain momentum, while Greg was 'faster', but choppier.

@Joram0611

3 жыл бұрын

​@@floydblandston108, thanks! I get what you're saying, but it 'feels' inefficient to see racers slowing down in mid air somehow :) With all the jumping videos that GMBN has done, I haven't seen one that really explains the technique behind it… would be quite interesting to see someday!

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joram0611 - Brian Lopes wrote an excellent book on riding skills that covers what you're looking for.

#askGMBNtech just wanted to ask if crankbrothers pedal attachment will fit on to shimano mtb cleat shoes and vise versa? thankss in advancee♥️💯👌

@th_js

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@Zedia949

3 жыл бұрын

Shimano and crankbrothers have different cleats and clapping system they only work with same brand system. Shimano is only shimano and crankbrothers is only crankbrothers

@Dieterbe

3 жыл бұрын

What if you swap the cleats to match the pedals, can you still use the same shoes ?

@th_js

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dieterbe Yes.

Doddy is a traile bike more like a downhill bike more similar than over bikes out

"mega chunky tyres" - why aren't downhill bikes just straight on fatbikes? Wouldn't that makes them even better at gliding over roots and rocks and all that?

@lacusstrap8784

3 жыл бұрын

Rolling speed...

@RoScFan

3 жыл бұрын

@@lacusstrap8784 Meaning?

@vomErsten

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoScFan Fat tire is a slower tire because of friction with the ground.

@lacusstrap8784

3 жыл бұрын

@@vomErsten YES DUDE

2:29 what bike is that?? 59 degrees thats pure madness!

@-TheRealChris

3 жыл бұрын

Don't know, but the Grim Donut is 57 degrees

@tiagoreis2906

3 жыл бұрын

@@-TheRealChris damn thats ugly af xD

Hey Doddy, just remind me again... what is the point of a downhill bike? Thanks!

DJ is Redbull and, DH is Mercedes if you get what I mean

I really want to feature a downhill bike on my channel

Looks like a session

@Doddy , or someone else, plase tell me what hat you (he) are wearing, i have a cap fetish :)

It went together easily in less than an hour. kzread.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

Want one but can't afford one...

Fucking hell doddy give Neil a valve cap it seems to be missing

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

Presta valves don't need caps...and they add weight! : D

@smashyrashy

3 жыл бұрын

@@floydblandston108 they stop dust and dirt....and grow up : O

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

@@smashyrashy - you think I'm kiddding?

Eeee

I always wondered why mountain bikers don't label the downhill fork clamps as triple clamps as we do in moto. The crown is actually on the fork legs. Up high is three clamps, two on the fork stanchions and one for the bars, where as the "crown" bridges the lowers. Just my two cents. Cheers!

Hardtail downhill bikes? 🤔🤔

@floydblandston108

3 жыл бұрын

Go find some old WC footage from the 80's! : )

Slopestyle bike

@bfoster6103

3 жыл бұрын

@@connorcampbell144 autocorrect😂

@connorcampbell144

3 жыл бұрын

@@bfoster6103 Sorry

Buy a big wheel 85cc MX bike and take the motor out.

No brakes is what makes the very best of the downhillers.

Imagine being the one dislike 😡😡

This is not a downhill bike. It has Vittoria tires.

#first

@connorcampbell144

3 жыл бұрын

First to what??? Flex your the first to watch like and comment on this video???? How old are you??? Grow up

@jeffv.akaonsjeffke9865

2 жыл бұрын

Well done LOL I hardly make it first.

Third

imagine getting pinned by GMBN Tech .