DH bikes are definitely the best looking MTB’s!

@zensmylie5393

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I disagree

@skymish533

3 жыл бұрын

@@zensmylie5393 @Zen Smylie Agreed they aren't as pretty as hardtails haha

@topspot4834

3 жыл бұрын

I actually think they're the ugliest.

@kaedeschulz5422

3 жыл бұрын

@@topspot4834 Why do you think so?

@TensyWasTaken

3 жыл бұрын

Different taste but IMO downhill bikes do look the best

Its a shame Henry is no longer on the channel. He's so great infront of the camera.

@AndreiDragonulBGS

3 жыл бұрын

what do you mean? he left the gmbn team?

@Bpf1893

3 жыл бұрын

Andrei Christescu Yeah they mentioned it on GMBN tech that he’s no longer on the team.

@The_RC_Dude

3 жыл бұрын

Which video did he say that?

@endurogod5230

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bpf1893 do you know why?

@hokipokist

3 жыл бұрын

@@endurogod5230 I think he and his wife are moving abroad

Henry sounds like a English teacher/poet

@badlarry172

3 жыл бұрын

he's the gmbn poet indeed

@awesometuscaloosa7203

3 жыл бұрын

Yea... we’re gonna miss him for sure...😢

@willkence7745

3 жыл бұрын

Quite a laborious process😂

@dasanoneia4730

3 жыл бұрын

yeah sounds like he missed his calling Author/Poet lol

@stevematthes8156

3 жыл бұрын

A good guy but I don't like him speaking on GMBN. I'm glad he decided to leave.

I love Henry's style of presenting... If anyone knows what I mean, he has a similar style to James May, in a good way.

There's a recent video of Wyn Masters riding an unmodified downhill bike up a famous Alpine climb, passing road bikers as he does it. Having watched Henry's video, I'm even more impressed now.

Funnily enough this is actually exactly something I've been wanting to do for a long time now. Just a shame I don't have the money yet lol

@topspot4834

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure your frame can handle the dual crown ... A lotta them don't.

Yoooo I’m such a massive fan. Thank you for getting me into mtb, it is now my favourite sport/hobby, and it was all due to your videos. Thank you 🙏

@arloridesbikes9921

3 жыл бұрын

and everyone else although Seth got me hooked

@oryan2854

3 жыл бұрын

Arko ye they should definitely do a collab some time

I ride my Enduro-fied DH 90% of the time, and I almost never find myself wishing for anything else. It’s just so incredibly good to ride that the minor drawbacks don’t even cross my mind. And I enjoy all the surprised and confused faces I see on the trails lol.

@austinado16

2 жыл бұрын

Same here! I get, "Wow! That thing is crazy!" a lot.

@adambrookens5459

Жыл бұрын

Wheres the water tho?

@bongobob7079

2 ай бұрын

@@adambrookens5459 Camelbak

I must admit , I'm going to miss Henry on the channel. Good luck in your new life.

@miles9294

3 жыл бұрын

why did he leave

@miles9294

3 жыл бұрын

why did he leave

@DownhillDesireMTB

3 жыл бұрын

because they kept making him ride downhill bikes uphill

I setup my freeride bike like this. Did absolutely everything with it and had no regrets.

@motov8-garage832

3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing the same with my 2014 scott voltage fr10. It's my free ride all around ride bike👍. I take it for rides around town for some street riding then maybe go hit the dirt jumps. But I can still take it to the bike park or down the mountain trails. My favorite bike this far in life.

This is so fantastic, I really would love a DH bike with dropper and light gears 👏👏🔥

@williamspitzschuh8167

Жыл бұрын

It is fun putting 12 speed on a DH

"Love Island 6: Return of the VD" had my in stitches.

Henry certainly had a way with words. Mans was born to be a presenter. I hope he finds what he's looking for going off the grid with his S/O.

"if that had an air shock (...) with a ZEB (...)" Dude that's what an enduro bike is thought to be ! 😅

@leomolloy5067

3 жыл бұрын

Legit in the works. There are leaked pics of exactly that. The Nukeproof Giga

@rolux4853

3 жыл бұрын

@@leomolloy5067 is that what the new yellow Nukeproof frame‘s called? The Giga instead of the Mega?

@leomolloy5067

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolux4853 nah that's the mega. There will be a longer travel model called the giga that uses the linkage from the discent.

@RCKING1

3 жыл бұрын

And Norco shore

Swap the cassette, stiffen up suspension to 10% sag, add a MRP ramp control, 165mm cranks, swap the fork for a single crown of the same travel. This is what I do to DH bikes in flat Florida. When I go to real mountains I dial the stiffness and rebound back a bit.

Just what I always wanted to see!

Around 2011, I had a 120mm trailbike and put a 170mm dual crown downhill fork on it with 680mm bars, short stem, 203mm brake rotors, coil shock, and more enduro/downhill tires and it was awesome. I rode it almost daily on a wide variety of trails and it was always good. Here’s to enduro!

As always Henri brings to light very valid points. Top Job!

Glad henrys still here !

I actually put more gears on my dh bike and it works well

Absolutely Rammed full of Henry's hilarious quips, similes and metaphors.... 👏👏👏👏👏 Brilliantly went to town on this script H! A fab final 'hurrah' 🤘

IMHO 140-160mm travel trail/enduro bikes are the best “all rounders”. You can manage a 30mile marathon ride with tons of climbing on it and take it to a DH park the next ride. Much more travel makes it a pig to pedal and way less makes it less capable for downhill.

@NoBrakes23

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. With the right linkage I can ride a 150mm rear travel bike all day, and never reach for the climb switch. Much more than that and I don't like it even with a lockout.

I literally ride a downduro Trek session 8 2014 with 180 travel front and rear, 150mm dropper and an endure drivetrain It’s the Ultimate bike for every situation

I set up my 2013 GT Fury 2.0 very similar. 14-53T cassette with a 36T up front. No dropper post but I will definitely think about one in the future. I'm a heavy rider (260#/117kg) so I swapped in a 600# rear spring, and the yellow heavy springs in the Boxxer forks. I also went with the largest rotors I could find 209mm. The bike does everything I ask it to. I love it. It weighs 38#/17kg. I don't even notice.

Henry coming up with the video ideas that answer the questions we've all had at one point in time

God I love Henry...haven't enjoyed a GMBN video like this in SO long

My only one bike is Giant Glory 2009 with fox40 and marzoochi rocco air shox, it's 26 inch wheel, now I try to change the wheel into 27.5 and surprisingly its fit on my bike 😄, there's a local trail in my place and the track is more enduro than downhill, but I still having fun with my bike. Remember "your bike is the best in the world, just ride it"

Henry, i have the do it all bike for ya. Privateer 161 frame Zeb Ultimate 170mm EXT storia V3 with climb switch Dt Swiss 350 - FR560 Sram GX eagle 10-52 group 220mm disc - Code R 💯 🏁 We call it the " Super Enduro "

This is absolutely fantastic just what I was looking for in a video this is got to be the most informative video I have ever seen on KZread! God bless you thank you for making us

Henry has the most amazing expressions!!! Be safe .

Having been in the sport since the 1970's !!!! My older bones, joints and injury arthritis screams for the mellow trails and super plush long travel of a converted DH rig .

Henry. You will be SORELY missed my friend. Well wishes in all your future endeavors.

Nice vid, thank you Henry and good luck to you!

I started with a Banshee Darkside that was built with a 1x11 and a single crown 180mm fork. I took the 222x70 coil shock off and put a 216x63.5 air shock to reduce the rear travel down to roughly 165mm and give me on-the-trail adjustability. The fork is a DVO Onyx SC which allows for travel reduction in 10mm increments(180-160), I went with 160. The frame has rear dropouts that are mounted on flip chips so I positioned those to take some of the slack out. I took what is considered a park bike/freeride bike and made an all around bike for my riding. If I ever need more I can easily put it back to 180/180 or even get a DVO Onyx DC fork and run 203/180 with the slack flip chip and have a semi-DH bike. I can also drop it down from 157 rear hub with 27.5 to 150 boost and 26" to make a mullet, or throw a lighter 26" wheel on the front to keep the geometry how I have it now but make a smaller and more nimble bike.

@laurynasjagelo5075

3 жыл бұрын

With some proper lighter wheels and clever drivetrain choice and bit of fitness, probably would pedal as good as most enduros around.

@ericgodfrey5751

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurynasjagelo5075 Even with the DH hubs and gravity casing tires it pedals pretty well. Climb switch on the shock helps a ton. I currently only ride once a week but I ride the bike to and from my riding spot, total of about 14 miles each ride on a bike that weighs 37lbs

@ericgodfrey5751

3 жыл бұрын

I've always been one to turn a certain type of bike into one that is as most all around as it can be. I used to ride a 24 inch "dirt jumper"... it was really just a 24" BMX. Three quarter axles, 48 spoke wheels, chrome-moly frame, no suspension, jerry-rigged front brake, Maxxis 2.4 Holy Rollers on very rocky Arizona desert trails.

Pretty good you did this. Some downhill bikes are cheaper than a basic full suspension trail or enduro.

@jackkelly324

3 жыл бұрын

yeah especially second hand in the UK

@jonathanoxlade4252

2 жыл бұрын

Because truth is the only thing you need on a downhill bike is a single speed and good brakes and good plush suspension that can handle red bull rider and a frame that is strong 💪 that's all I need In a bike infact trail bike and enjuro bikes are scary even yho enjuro can handle most downhill hills wouldn't trust it for anything else you won't see redbull riders use it down sketch mountains fast because the enjuro bike would snap like a toothpick I would definitely want a strong frame for that stuff

I did something like this 20 years ago with my downhill. To solve the seat height problem, I used a long seat post for peddaling and climbing. Then once I got to the top I pulled my second short seat post out of my camelbak and installed it for the descent. Modern droppers solved that problem for sure.

yes it can be your only bike. i have a v10 santa cruz with 12 gears n dropper post and more mods and is a beast going up and going down. everyone tough i was crazy for doing my set up on a dh bike. but i can honestly said i love it. and it works great going up and going down. many riders will be surprise how well it climbs. good video

Had a 2004 VPFree I built up an agressive trail rig. This was before companies offered Enduro bikes. 40+ lbs aside, the bike was a blast to run on all mountain trails

this was exactly what I was doing with my orange 223 back in the days. I am amazed my knees lasted through that

Interesting look at what can be done. Top vid Henry. 👍

#comments Way to cement your GMBN legacy Henry. Great video. Gonna miss ya dude! All the best. 🤟🏻

Love island 6 return of the vid is class!! Henry you’re a star

I feel the problem of wobbling all around can be solve by finding a rear shock or a double crown shock that has a lock system. What I do is I put a lot of air in the shock for climbing and then release some of the air in the top of the mountain and ride like nothing happened. I always wanted to see a video talking about a downhill bike with a big cassette in the rear and this opens so many ideas in how to upgrade my bike

This video is hilarious. I love all your 1-liners henry

On the other hand, I had a 2005 specialized bighit years ago with full downhill spec and triple clamp fork. It was the original mullet 26/24 wheeled bike and it climbed amazingly well. My theory is the 24 inch rear wheel made the gearing effectively like a much lower gear and helped with torque multiplication going uphill.

I pedal up with my Demo's 11-26 cassette and 36t chainring. Figure it's more of a workout.

I have an old 2006 yeti asx with an old 178mm dual crown u-turn boxxer which is soooo good for enduro. It may not be the best fork out there for downhill but the ability to change the travel from 178mm to 133mm with a turn of a knob makes such a huge difference. I plan on giving it a more capable drivetrain than a 2x9 but as it is the bike is decent for uphill and amazing for downhill

London to Brighton night marathon, DH 2003 DeVinci Ollie :) 888RC 200mm fork, 6Way damper, wide tyres - no problem :)

Good luck Henry, happy travels!

I had a bit of fun finding a dropper for my Free-ride come only ride... (2010 Giant Faith... way more of a bike than I will ever need, Totems are a little harsh though) I ended up with a very low spec Zoom Tequila 100mm witch used almost all the insertion depth when set to my riding height.... Basically there was no 150mm solution under $600 that didn't need modification of max travel to hit the correct top height without passing it. I have about 20mm free in the frame and a shock bolt that denies internal cabling. (I can still gain that 20mm manually at the top of a decent downhill at the loss of full height extension.. but that's fine if there's no big uphills needing me to stop and manually raise the unit back to the full position. What we need is a truely telescopic system. I even semi designed one (on paper) using a light internal spring. An internal oil ram to lock it in place, with a spring pressured reservoir to assist the lightweight internal... which could be done with air/nitrogen)

thanks for the video!! I have been tooling this idea for my own dissent!! wireless dropper maybe, as the 2020 doesn't have internal housing on the left of the frame. gave me a few good ideas! cheers

I ride one like this 😅 11 - 32t cassette 38t chainring 10 speed fox 40s front canecreek db rear had a dropper but removed it as stack height was way too much Keeps up and beats my mates on short travel enduro / trail bikes daily :)

Interesting video mate!

I have an idea, fox used to make a 36 with adjustable travel on the fly, from 100mm 130 and 160. If they made a dh fork do that, they could drop the travel from 200mm down to like 180 or 160, or even lower, and that would make the head tube steeper and a hell of a lot better for climbing

@rolux4853

3 жыл бұрын

Rock Shox has also done it with dual position air (or U-Turn on their Coil Forks, which was infinitely adjustable. On my old Pike it’s 95-140mm). I think they even brought Dual Position Air back on the E-Bike version of the ZEB, to steepen the headangle for these sick assisted climbs.

@TylerDavis-gh1dy

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolux4853 yeah I think more fork manufacturers should offer this on their forks, it sounds like a simple way to make an enduro bike with dh geo and still be able to climb fire roads or whatever with ease

@NoBrakes23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolux4853 I'm still running that 95-140 coil pike on my 5" bike. Normally, I never bother with lockouts or UTurn, but when I'm going up a loooong fire road, it sure is nice.

@rolux4853

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoBrakes23 yeah I still have that fork on my Kona Hardtail. I service it every few years and it works absolutely amazing! People can talk crap about the motion control damping all they want, it’s super easy to service, has very few parts that could break and functions really well. But these people talking crap about it, mostly don’t even dare to adjust the pressure on their fork, better let the bikeshop do this highly skilled task...

There are enduro bikes available, that ride like DH bikes - > Nicolai G1.

@mclurebailey6652

3 жыл бұрын

also that specialized enduro and pivot firebird 29

@danielmeyer3015

3 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s a sick bike

@mtbboy1993

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was about to say something about that, you beat me to it. I have one, I love it. 👌Very stable, well balanced, planted. Great fit and geometry. And chainstay length, seat stay length is adjustable, it's approved for dual crown fork. I still am able to climb as good and actually on tehhnical terrain it's even easier than my too small and lighter trail bike. My G1 is 17.80 kg according to my scale with summer setup and 18.70 with studded tyres and heavy Exposure Sixpack light. The bike has a ext Storia V3 which has a climb switch, but I don't need to use it,thete is alot of support but yet supple initial stroke. I am 86kg fully kitted with current gear,use a 400 spring. My review wp.me/p60aTF-2Rq

@mtbboy1993

3 жыл бұрын

No problem with dropper post insertion length. 👌I have Bike Yoke Divine 185mm on mine.

@sail3353

3 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain Flatline Unlimited as well I got one

Sounds like an enduro bike with a dh fork is the way to go. Single crown forks are light but they are far more flexible than dual crown forks.

@mtbboy1993

3 жыл бұрын

That's why Morc 36 exist, modified fox 36 to be dual crown. I know Mrp did a 180mm dual crown enduro fork, some run lowered dh forks like fox 40 or Boxxer, Formula

@James-dn1hu

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t think the new 38 and zeb are too far off in terms of stiffness

@rupedog

3 жыл бұрын

New zeb is stiffer than boxxer

@peteo3436

3 жыл бұрын

@@rupedog There you go. It seems to me that dual crown is a better solution from an engineering. perspective so that larger bottom of the steerer must have a huge effect. Must

You should get a shock with a climb switch so it would be easyer to climb and get an headtube and changer cap so it can become an small bit steeper for those steep climbs . Great video

You really should do a video where you take a road bike and see how well it MTBs, it would be hysterical!

I was pondering exactly this - especially if you fitted a larger gear range, nice one GMBN... especially as the Dissent is so much cheaper than a Mega right now! Although by the time you upgrade the gears and rear shock...

Really amazing awesome 🤣🥰 This is real creativity

Cool video Henry! 👍😎

Brilliant....such funny and clever scripting....miss that turn of phrase... 'stepping on a plate-full of blanc mang'😂😂😂😂

Did this in 2013 and it worked great (with 2013 DH geometry!).

Put 160mm cranks, they will allow you to use a longer (dropper) post. Put 28mm front chainring, it will allow you to climb easier. Both of these improved the enjoyment of my capra

Soo good comparison. I´ll definetely buy a DH bike and try those changes. Talking with other friends and channels seems like everyone at least has tried the casette switch and air shock pumping its rebound to super fast with interesting results. However, the climbing effort keeps being too taxing to make it an everyday happy selection.

All this exacting stuff is very informative to the regular biker guy, however . . . . I have a hard tail Trek Gary Fisher for my every day/ride to work bike and it is so inadequate to try to pretend it is an mountain bike. But I love my Commencal Meta TR 29 for everything else, including climbing up those steep logging roads and even up the rooty trails. It even has a rear shock switch (which I and Pink Bike never used). Do I need anything else? Not really unless I was going to take the lift up Whistler and scream over large jumps which would bottom out my shocks and break my shoulders/back. Just remember, these wonderful informative videos are really advertisements to separate us from our hard earned money. And I too am going to miss you Henry.

Running polygon xquareone dh8. All carbon frame, and upgraded to carbon rims and bars. 14.5kg with 2.8" tires. With enough insert room for dropper. bout to put oneup 210mm dropper! Still good climber.

I just bought a 2021 kona process 153 29. compared to my old bike, an 05 giant reign 2, the slacker headtube angle is very noticeable and makes it hard to go up some technical/steeper hills. it has a longer wheelbase and you can feel that in the trails. it goes down hills great, but it feels goofy climbing.

Yeah having one of each bike I tend to use the enduro more than the dh unless it's uplift day less weight more gears lock outs just make a better pedal up machine 😁

Miss Henry already. Also, should have tried putting Trail casing tires on the DH bike to lighten it up.

downhill bikes are so awesome for everything! and you can do arm curls with it when your stopped at a stoplight in town for the chicks!!

I’m not a bike park guy……I like the pain and the climb, the reward of doing it under my own power and brisk, but controlled downhill. I have an all purpose AM bike with 130mm and it’s nearly as light as my XC bike. I’m not flying off stuff…..bad landings mean long recovery times if you follow my drift.

I have an old specialized status and that works fine as an enduro bike, even though it's still a 26er and is marketed as a cheaper alternative to the demo. Feels fun, and I don't mind the extra squish.

Duuude you've got some world class narrating skills. Please make a carreer

I laced a pair of xc rims onto DH hubs ,put continental mountain king wet tissue tyres on .It made a noticeable difference to the rotational mass and drag .I take my wheels off to put my bike in my car anyway .So it's no hassle.2 pairs of wheels gets definitely makes my bike more of an all rounder .I have to take the wheels off my bike to put it in my car so it's no hassle .

IMNSHO While these are great bikes, they really cannot be quiver killers. I'd say the ultimate QK would be 150mm front and rear travel, 65-66 degree head angle, 74-77 degree seat tube, and about 30 pounds. Once you get 1 degree outside of these numbers, and more than 4 pounds either way difference, handling in a particular trail type suffer. So, a steeper angled and lighter bike becomes less fun once the trails get rougher or steeper. And a degree slacker and above 35 pounds, climbing and smooth trails become more taxing. All depends on what you like to ride. I started back in the 90's and really got into it in the XC/AM/DH days. And it seems we are getting closer to those days again. With the AM still falling into two categories XC/Trail and Trail/Enduro.

I am in the process of toning down my DH bike, it is a Rose " the Unchained". Next stage is a RS Zeb and a smaller chainring up front ( 32 --> 28), also chaincing 26 inch wheels to 27.5 inch. Up back I have 11-46 teeth and a dropper is already installed.

That specialized ebike with the duel crown fork is probably the answer

HQ!! We'll miss ya bud! 🤙 Good argument, but I think I'd just go with the enduro bike with bigger rotors and heavier casings.

Had the good fortune to see the new super enduro offering from Nukeproof. I think Henry's head might expload.

I own a commencal supreme sx, basically a supreme dh v4.2 wich fits a dropper... imo it's just the best bike on the planet!!

"Love Island 6 - Return of the VD" 🤣🤣🤣

Sorry buddy, I did that years ago with my Demo8 in 2011. Still, Awesome for the new riders good man.

He's back!

One thing has to be added. There is a big difference between racing and riding for fun. I prefer more travel "overbiked" approach because nobody is timing my runs. Its the same with XC bikes, they are very efficient super lightweight but so uncomfortable and not practical for average MTBer.

Tried it on my Gambler. The only real problem is the seat tube sadly. I'm sure there are DH bikes out there with straight seat tubes and good insertion depths.

Now exist enduro bikes really amazing, this bikes are the best of the both worlds.

We’re gonna miss you Henry 🙌🏽

This is a very interesting perspective

I agree with you about how badly some enduro bikes climb. One that I had some experience with was the Santa Cruz High Tower LT. It was a terribly in efficient climber, you can see why the dropped that model as soon as they could.

We need to see a DH bike Everest attempt 🏔

Canfield One - I'm still riding my 2012 , 8" front and rear

If you can pedal it, it's perfectly fine, I went from riding xc on a cheap big box store 120mm travel, to riding dh on a mondraker summum and a polygon xquarone dh9 and honestly i still go for my 30-40 mile xc rides nearly everyday and I manage just fine and fine the extra challenge of a 36t chainring and 24-11t cassette quite fun

DH bike has been my only bike for years, yea its slow on the uphills but i'm slow on the uphills no matter what mtb i'm riding and its just so excellent on the downhills the good far outweighs the bad for me.

For a while my only bike was a Specialized Demo. I had to mosey up every trail, but I never encountered an obstacle I wasn't willing to try and I was able to bomb down anything with reckless abandon.

Cleaning the lens with you shirt will do that to your video :) Anyway cool video very informative. Cheers

I would put a 180mm singlecrown and light tubless enduro tyres. Maybe an air shock and play with all the possibilities it has to change the characteristics.

I have a pivot Phoenix that I converted to an Enduro with 180 travel and it's such an amazing bike. And in comparison to my friends Enduro bikes its farely light with its 14kg. The biggest difference imo is that true Enduros are a bit more efficient then mine but they aren't as good down hill

@bertusbob

2 жыл бұрын

Pivot Phoenix DH Bike with a Singlecrown and AXS Dropper for Enduro?: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6mGprCrpdCqqLA.html

"Love Island 6 ; Return of the VD" 😂😂😂

So in the end, what differences it from a enduro bike, if you swap every component towards enduro options? Geo only? Isn't something like Pole then nearly the same?