WHAT IS A CORD OF FIREWOOD??? - #94
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In today's video, I'm addressing some confusion that happens quite a bit in the firewood business. Its coming up on that time of year, so I thought it might be a good topic for discussion, and education. Let me know what you think, and if you have ever had similar questions or circumstances.
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Another student at the Forestry College where I earned my Scalers license asked the Instructor what is a face cord? The Instructor sat down , waited for silence and said,, face cord is only a word invented by dishonest firewood sellers to make customers satisfied with less then they paid for. He suggested that would be a good exam question . This is by far the best video out of many l have seen about firewood, thanks.
We just bought our 4 cord for the winter. 2nd year I paid. I always cut it myself but ive gotten lazy. Thanks for the video.
Good video. I burn wood full time...SW Nova Scotia. There's a few swindlers around, but most are honest
Great video! Sound like a reputable company. Thanks for explaining what a true cord is. So many people have no idea. I’ve had sellers try to sell me a cord that was actually alot less than even a face cord. 4’x4’x16-18”
Thanks for all the information. It's 11:13 PM CST
Thank you! Very informative and well explained. This video should be required training for all new firewood sellers. Many people in my area try to claim a level truck bed as a full cord, and unfortunately also price it as that. Often it will even actually be a loosely thrown in, level truck bed, claimed as a full cord!
Good video. There is a lot of confusion with people. I’ve sold firewood and I’ve bought it at times too. There are way too many sellers that either don’t know or don’t care what a full cord is. The next biggest topic of confusion caused by bad or unknowing sellers would be what exactly seasoned firewood is.
Well done, your explanation was on the money. I have been cutting and splitting wood since I was 16 helping my Dad and Uncles at our hunting cabin in NYS. Then I was cutting it to heat my family home, about 4 years ago I had my hip replaced & 62 years young now it's not as easy to get fire wood anymore. So I started ordering some fire wood, it's very hard to find someone who knows what a cord of firewood is.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Thank you for the information
@FirewoodattheFurnace
2 ай бұрын
My pleasure
as a homeowner and a recent buyer of firewood, I found this video most informative.
Good to see it is a standard everywhere.
A face cord here in Tennessee is called a Rick or a third of a cord about 42-43 square feet
@silverstar4289
Жыл бұрын
Yes. that is what is is in Southern Indiana- populated with Appalachia emigrants, of course. Alternative from what I can tell is “face cord”. Have no idea why people would refer to it as a cord.
Yep , some are confused. A standard pickup truck, stacked evenly to the top of the bed is not a full cord. Those different adjectives confuse people. Good video.
Excellent video👍 Hello from New Jersey.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
6 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks!
Out here in the pacific northwest..4'x4'x8'..
I’ve been cutting and stacking firewood since I was 12 yr old which is about 50years. I’ve on occasion purchased firewood and have made it absolutely clear that I wanted a full cord 4’x4’x8’, 128 cubic foot and had them show up with pickup with 2’ side boards lose stack and mounded and advised them that what the brought me was not a full cord, I paid for a full cord and I expected a full cord and to prove it I stacked it with their help and sure as shit it was barely 2/3 of a cord so it it proves that there are those who are taking advantage of most people and there are those selling firewood who don’t understand what a full cord is either.
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I learned early on (age 16 now 67) what a cord was. A lot of people in my area refer to 1/3 cord as a rick. Having hauled a rock I know it will fill a short box pick up. I wish more people would see this video. Great video by the way.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Allan. Appreciate it
Hello Brad I just found your channel I found it very informative. I heat my house with wood. I’m almost 82 years old and I still drop trees buck and split them up I burn mainly oak,maple, hickory and locust. But the problem is as I have gotten this old it just takes a lot out of me. I really did enjoy your video and I am looking forward to watching all your videos
@FirewoodattheFurnace
8 ай бұрын
Well welcome to the channel. Glad to have you here. There are lots of great people in this community and we all try to help each other. I think it’s awesome that your still doing the work! It’s always nice to do a job that you can see what your efforts resulted in. I hope you enjoy the channel and again, thanks for coming along
Excellent. Thanks
Great vid👍. Here in SW Missouri I deal with the same confusion. The most common term here for a 1/3 of a cord is a “rick”. Most people call and want to order wood by the truckload and then I have to clarify things. I have also noticed that the people who heat with wood and will buy a cord or more they know exactly what they want. It’s the customers who want a rick or 2 for a fire place or a backyard fire pit that aren’t sure. And several times I have showed up to deliver a rick or two and stack it the customers are surprised by how much extra wood is there, which after an explanation of volume means they were cheated in the past. Keep up the good work Brad😆
Very educational as are all of your videos, wished I lived closer as I would be one of your customers!👍👍🇺🇸
@FirewoodattheFurnace
2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Nice to meet you, Brad. I'm new to your channel and appreciate a honest person when it comes to firewood sales. My wife and I are both 67 and cut, split and stack our own firewood, a great team. We mostly get logs that I haul home on my 5x10' trailer, pulled behind my 2001 Grand Cherokee and some rounds from our local Fire Chief that's clearing a large area of his property that has a lot of dead Ash trees. Keeps us busy and in some sort of shape and beats paying those high utility bills. Again, great to meet you and discover a great channel.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
5 ай бұрын
Hello, and welcome to the channel. Glad you found it! Sounds like you and your wife work great together. Ash is awesome firewood and dries quickly. Its great exercise and mental therapy I think. Hope you to continue to enjoy and I wish you all the best.
Great educational video.
Very good, thanks.
Beautiful property ❤
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Ай бұрын
Thank you
Always good to get a good refresher of what a "cord" is. Thanks Brad.
I also always get the customer to understand what they are asking for. It really cuts down on miss understandings
Well done! Nothing like wood heat. Loved seeing all those neatly stacked rows. Cutting firewood is my planet fitness and forest management is my favorite hobby.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
The way i could remember 128 cubic feet was there was also 128 ounces in a gallon. That part itself didn't help much but a quart of beer is 32 ounces. That part is easy to remember. One quart is 1/4 gallon. 32x4=128.
6 cords going out will give u alot of free space for more maple ,ash, or cherry which dries very fast if u split it small
Very informative thanks for spelling it out 😊
Greetings from Dorset (UK). Thanks for clearing up the cord/face cord thing. Never see 'face cords' over here. Fuelwood is often sold by weight. Bet you see the potential problem. Supposed to be sold by volume (cubic metres). Recently we have had legislation passed to say that you can't sell firewood in quantities of less than 2 CuM at higher than 20% moisture. You have to be registered and accredited which costs money and time yearly and directly penalises small producers. I don't sell wood, but I do cut and prep for my own use. I get through about 4 tonnes a year- my only heating. Small house. I don't split. I fell and cut to 5' lengths. I'm cutting derelict hazel coppice and max. stem diameter is about 10". I cut into 11-12" lengths (stoves are smaller over here) and then just cut it into billets with a chainsaw in a brake.
I can honestly say, I learned a lot. Thanks for the info
Great discussion video and appreciated your insight and knowledge on these topics! And thanks for sharing that recent firewood costumers request, that goes along way as you noted and I’ve also heard this from other firewood channels that I have seen about connecting with the client prior and making sure both parties have the discussions / understanding prior to showing up on delivery day! Goes a long way with customer service and I know just from watching your channel over the past few weeks that this is one of your strong points for sure with your business/ hobby :). Appreciate that chat Brad! Thanks again! Cheers! Andrew from NB :)
Thanks for the info! Unfortunately, I just realized that I got burned my first winter burning wood. Pun intended. I'm gathering wood myself now for the winter rather than pay $300 for damp wood in the city.
Excellent info. There’s so much confusion and misinformation on this topic. I too have heard people say that a full cord can fit in a pickup truck. I always say, “my truck is an F350 with an 8 foot bed. I can’t fit a cord in my truck.”
Well done! Great video to share we your customers. Terry
I have been doing exactly what you’re doing and I have been doing it for most of my life and you are so right, explaining first
Enjoyede it!
This is a good clear tutorial. Thanks.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
Great info
Good info.
Great job Brad with the clarity and explanation.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark
How much wood could a dump trailer dump if a dump trailer could dump wood?? Answer: 1.5 cord (loosely piled). Great video!! Very informative. Straightened me out that's for sure.
Great video, very informative on the explanation of a true cord. Just showed a bunch of guys at work and were all very impressed.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
Good video. Very helpful. Thank you!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. Thanks for watching
Why am I just finding this channel?! Shout out from college park maryland
@FirewoodattheFurnace
6 ай бұрын
Welcome! Glad you found us. Hope you enjoy
Really good explanation Brad. A lot of people don’t have a clue about what a cord is. I can’t believe you need to have a permit to sell firewood. Just another revenue stream for the government, smh. I left upstate NY and moved south 42 years ago. I was glad to get away from a lot of that government control. Unfortunately I think it’s creeping towards NC.
Awesome video ! Very true there is so many people that really have no idea what a cord is, I don't deliver much people just come pick it up, and they think they can put a cord on a half ton truck, until I tell them they probably won't get it all on in 2 trips, you really have to do just as you did so they understand, Great Job !
Thanks for this video Brad. I almost didn't click on it because I know what a cord is, and I know what a face cord is. Of course, that was before I watched your video and found out I have been wrong for 20 years. I was sure that a face cord was 1/2 of a cord. So all these years I have been getting a cord delivered and thought the guys was being generous because after filling 2 face cord holders, I always had some extra. Ha Ha, joke was on me. I am about to order firewood and have called around to get prices here in Northern New Jersey. You mention in your video that you like the chance to educate your customers and try not to embarrass them. I think I will have to make sure whoever I get the wood from is educated and will try not to embarrass them! You have a great style and I appreciate the content. Subscribed.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad it helped and welcome to the channel. Hope you continue to enjoy and thanks for the comments!
I've noticed in our area people selling "facecords" of wood which measure 4' x 8' x 12", which is 75% of a facecord. I've been sharing that information on my channel. A facecord of wood stacked loosely required approximately 60 cubic feet of space.
You're absolutely right about the title bringing in new subscribers. I just found this video, and though I already knew most of the information, I'm now a subscriber!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan and welcome!
Well done again Brad a great show about firewood sizes it is confusing to the general publiv
I live in Central Kentucky and buy my firewood from an Amish pallet mill. The wood is hickory, red oak and yellow poplar. The poplar is nice in the mix because it gets the oak and hickory going good when burning. $20 a half cord stacked as tight as you want in my 2x4x8 truck bed. So that's $40 a cord and no bark on the 4x4 or 4x6 cut off end pieces 6 in. to 24 in. long. No chainsaw cutting or splitting.
@kanyunbros9315
Ай бұрын
I let it cure for two years before burning.
great video.i like how clean the wood yard is kept
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
Well i am a newbie and i learned a lot thank you for taking the time to explain things your yard is impressive very tidy and well organised.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and I’m glad it was helpful to you!
Great video Brad. Very informative for everyone!!!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Thank you for information about the difference in all the cords of wood, I knew some but not all those different names. Great video!!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
Great explanation.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
This is my first year getting an inventory together to season and hopefully start selling next year. Can't thank you enough for the video! You're on a roll. I've already used your video to make racks with pallets. Can get twice as much wood stacked for about 1/4 of the price (when comparing it to the metal racks I've bought on Amazon). I'm also going to build a bundle making frame soon from your other video I've taken notes on. You help out your viewers more than you know! Btw, congrats on the 5k subscribers! 🙂
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. That’s what I love about this community. Helping people out is what I strive to do. Thanks for watching and letting me know. This keeps me going!
Dear Mr. Woodsman, just a bit interested because I live in a forest surrounded by trees and wood. So my fireplace can get it's tummy full anytime. Enjoy you video, Thank you very much, if no one else has ever mentioned it, have to tell ya. O.k. about the pickup load, I was always told that is a cord. Thanks again, now 40 + 40 = 80 so in my mind that is almost 2/3 of a cord, dear sir? but not half. because 80 + 40 more and your right about at 120 only 8 cubic feet shy of the Ag. Dept. required measure, just a comment. Still I subscribed and hope the little math fraction is not insulting, was not meant to be. Retired school teacher lady.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
3 ай бұрын
Welcome!
I have delivery in PA scheduled. They’ve told me our 4 x 8 rack is a half cord!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
5 ай бұрын
A 4x8 rack could be half a cord if the pieces are cut 24” long
New here to your channel and subscribed. Greetings from an old Wood Tick in North Michigan. I been cutting, splitting, stacking, burning my entire 67 years. I only cut for myself at 18" to 22". I have seen folks happy with receiving face chords as skinny as 8". I hope folks listen to what you are saying.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Welcome and I hope you continue to enjoy!
Great info 😊
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
I like your clear communication with your customers, God bless you and your family.😀
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I just found your channel and I am impressed with your knowledge of what a common mistake customer's make, I'm doing my research on the firewood business and I am hoping to get started on my own journey very soon.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks James and best of luck to you!
Very informative Thank You, I've been getting ripped for years.
Hey brad, great video that goes into detail around the confusion in the firewood world. Especially on the buyers side. Had some of those same experiences when customers were ordering. Good stuff and take care
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
I've had some confusion in my deliveries also. People order a cord, meaning 1/3 cord of a wood. Have a Safe Day
Brad your true on your words . Back in my wood days we delivered 3 full cords in a tandem dump truck patch and round off to it. We cut into 2 lenght 12” for the cook house stove and 16” for heating stove . Your very true about a pick - up take a cord off wood . It’s can be done went dry , BUT BUT you got to put high sideboard on the pick - up . My wet yellow birch a full cord might take it 1 ton or 3500 . Good luck on your axle weight on the license road . Here there highway inspection will be on to you for weight on your truck from 3500 and up , plus weight license on your trailer . Here we pay for weight to haul onto your axle . We call it’s axle weight , so went we haul max axle weight we paid for it’s to haul . A lot put minus weight on trailer about its less money , but if the highway inspection weight your load it’s will cost you $$$ in weight over your permit . Back in the wood a big timber use to take 1 1/4 tons pick back out to the landing .it’s a load with no B s..t down off a mtns . Take cord and 1/4 at 8’x 4” long put a cable around the centre, pull it’s tight up behind the jack and drive it’s straight down a mtns . See if your nerve as steel in the mtns off Newfoundland ca. Brad your right A CORD in USA and CANADA are the SAME . 8’ long , 4 ‘ height and 4’ wide . How you want to cut its up , you can pick a # 12 “ , 16” , 24 “ and so on . Brad great video, if your buddy take 10 full cords , you will make a hole into the wood yard for sure . Be careful and god bless to you and the family .
Gotta say you have the neatest wood yard👍🏻. I enjoy your videos. 🇺🇸👏🏻
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry I appreciate it
Newbie tonight...Excellent video..thank you for posting.!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Welcome! Hope you enjoy. Great community here
My area deals in Rick's very interesting
Great video
@FirewoodattheFurnace
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video Brad, glad to subscribe.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
4 ай бұрын
Thank you and Welcome!
Appreciate it man ima use this info to be smarter
Great that there are people like you (that know and tell the truth about what a full Cord of wood is) ..keep up the good work !!!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
Great stuff top info. In the uk no one uses these measurements and we seem to cut to average of 10” logs.
New subscriber today to your channel. Great information keep up the good work. Fixing to go back into your archives and watch the rest of the videos. Be safe my friend.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
5 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for all the info. My son is about to embark on a firewood business and has priced out all of the equipment and the pay out including maintenance, storage, security, etc. Your videos are priceless!! Hope to see more. Thanks again!!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that and best of luck to your son!
@stevenbrown5210
8 ай бұрын
Tell him to buy everything with cash!
good job on explaining the difference lengths, in the suburbs of Levias Ky most suppliers have 12 16 and 24 in. the price for face cord is the same, a lot more labor in a 12 in verses 24 in. cords.
Love your channel. Keep it up.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Ron
great information new into the fire wood business i am a owner of UPPER END landscape martha's vineyard i climb for alot of my jobs and do full removals ash, oak , etc thank you for showing me proper ways to sell my wood i am saving to buck up!!!! e
Thanks for the video. I often heard the term 'cord of wood' and did ask once. The explanation I received was so many feet of 4" x 2" (Aussie talk; not 2 x 4 for you Yanks); I could never visualize that. Your explanation 8' x 4' x4' finally painted the picture for me - thanks again.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
If you have side boards. And you stack it above cab. You can most definitely get a cord of wood in a pickup truck.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
4 ай бұрын
Yes, if you go high enough you can. That would be a heavy load
Hey Brad. Love your videos. I re subscribed as I was already a subscriber , who knows. Nice content as always.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
A standard size pickup bed, slightly mounded is appx a face cord. If you really mound it, you can fit a half a cord. I like to pick up my own wood, and that's what I get when I throw a measured face cord in there. (I don't have anywhere for a vendor to dump off a load here, and rather than waste his time- and clog up the road- while we transfer the wood to MY truck, or haul it out back 1 cart at a time, it's just easier to go get it) I believe "Rick" is another term for face cord. More common in the South and parts of the midwest. Sometimes the confusion goes both ways. I ordered a face cord of mixed premium hardwood for grilling from a guy advertising green/fresh cut firewood, with a list of available species. Cherry, hickory, and sugar maple is what I asked for. He turned out to be a tree service with a nice side gig. He shows up to my house with a dump truck! One of those small ones they use to haul mulch and stuff. By the time we emptied it out, my pickup was piled 3-4 feet above the roof, and squatting hard, lol. He said that's a face cord- and charged me as such. I ended up filling TWO 1 facecord woodhaven racks! (one of which I had to order because of this, lol) So, sometimes it works out. And yes, I DO keep a sharp eye out for his ad on marketplace, lol. ( it was seriously nice quality wood- I'd gladly buy again even if I knew I would get a measured face.)
Great video Brad! I had an idea but definitely learned something today! Watch for the big yellow trucks & the air horn as I ride by! Lol I try to say hi when I see ya out there working!
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Lol 👋🏻
Great video.Learned something today lol
@FirewoodattheFurnace
5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
New subscriber here. I have been searching for a channel like this for some time. Thank you.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Welcome and thanks for being here!
Good video🇺🇸
@FirewoodattheFurnace
8 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
spot on! a tigyht stack full cord is 128 cubic ft minus rot and air space which is 90 cubic ft solid wood, a loose tossed cord is 180 cubic ft. Thanks
Good explanation Brad.. I used both my truck and trailer as a full cord as if they wanted to look up how much they are getting they will have a better idea.. Congratulations on the 6 cord sale..😁👍
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
The way I was taught was a face cord was 4'x8'x16", a full cord was 4'x8'x4' and a bush cord was wood bought in log form and it was 4'x8'x4' but it was still in log for and you would lose approximately 15% of the volume when you cut and split it. So a logging truck is the person selling bush cords. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you for the information. I'm new and am just starting to learn about how much wood helps to keep our home warm and how much we need to heat our home in the winter to offset the cost of gas.
@FirewoodattheFurnace
Жыл бұрын
Hello and welcome. Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the EXCELLENT presentation on what a cord of wood is. I have always thought it was a single row. Also size was confusing. This is my first year cutting wood and I just realized too that I need seasoned wood. Never burned wood before, but we are replacing an old stove, which was dangerous, by design, and having the chimney lined with steel. I'm a chick, age 68 and even looking at a wood splitter, Ariens 27 ton, 8 horse. Thanks for clarity and I subscribed. I am going to buy my seasoned wood from a guy everyone around here thinks is expensive, but I'll be able to determine that he knows what the heck he is doing and in the end, I will likely save my body and my house, but getting dryer, proper wood,
I worked in the logging industry in cutting down timber, sawing lumber and cut and sell firewood including the slab waste from the lumber. I did this for 35 years.
@philkillen5016
Жыл бұрын
Where did you work at. I'm trying to get someone to drop off a tractor trailer load of logs at my house. I live in south jersey. It seems like they are only up north.
Also by having wood staked in measured sections it takes the guess work out of knowing how much is being loaded. I have a truck that easily hold 1/3 thrown in loose. However , if i stack it tight and 2ft high i can get 60 cubic ft in my truck bed. Nice video brad.
Around here I rarely see face cords sold. It's generally a full or a half cord. Some guys will make a box out of pallets and split and stack it neatly in the box and call it a half cord. That way the air can get at it through the gaps in the pallet and its very roughly 4x4x4 which is a half cord. Most pallets are 48x40 so the respectable guys will stack it over the top to make up for the lost 8 inches