LOOK MOM I'M FAMOUS!! Thanks for being fair in judging what I had to say c: Totally agree that an amazing solution would just be having more customization, like toggles and sliders.

@GoatOfWar

2 ай бұрын

Fellow Au ra player, Lips, nose and eyes all look different :(

@KnightofZeal

2 ай бұрын

I watched your original vid, and the updated info sqex gave out, and I'm glad that you were right and vindicated.

@-L1K-

2 ай бұрын

Hah, very nice to see you here. My previous YT account is gone but I was in your comments about housing a lil while ago.

"Just change to bunny" Nope, I hate how they changed the female Midlander face 5 eyes so I'm changing to lalafell

dysmorphia fantasia resistance arrives to ffxiv, we are doomed

Now that she mentioned blurry I can't unsee it. Everything is blurred.

@JJBCrimsonKnight

2 ай бұрын

Could be FSR nonsense

Catgirl eyebrows are objectively terrible. Mine are currently modded with a wee bit of facepaint magic, so unfortunately that was the biggest shock to me in the benchmark LOL. I also hate how choosing light hair makes your eyebrows go away. Let me choose my eyebrow color. That's why, with a dozen alts, none of them have white/super light hair!

I think the update has just increased the clarity for these people about how soulless their characters always were.

Ok, the dry lips I agree, but real skin does not shine. If they make it shine it will look like a doll, like the current models look.

@cutecats532

2 ай бұрын

Just add an option for gloss to character creator. But I disagree, I think most lips have some shine even when they're not wet but the benchmark lips, in the opening scene with the close up, look like a very matte lipstick which also can make them look waxy. In character creator they have the tiniest shine at some angles but it's not enough to highlight the shape of them so they look flat.

@waltwhite8126

2 ай бұрын

@@cutecats532 please read my comment again, we agree on the lips.

@JH-pj8nw

2 ай бұрын

Skin does shine if it isn't dry

@waltwhite8126

2 ай бұрын

​@@JH-pj8nw ???

@umbraeros

2 ай бұрын

well its not real its a video game. U can be a furry and have green skin i think we are way past things needing to be real

The eyes have way more soul now. The problem is the sculpting change making it look worse to people.

@kzorander8577

2 ай бұрын

Also people choosing the one angle that doesn't show the dynamic catch lights.

@ZepLive theyr already working on all things related to DawnTrail and Benchmark check the LodeStone post they already know about most of the issues and they are Revamping the Benchmark and the Entire Character Creator for the E.A and Full Launch entirely to fix the issues

They took so much character away from almost all lips. I think if they fix that and blend the lips into the face better so it doesnt look penciled around the edges. And fix the lighting then most people will be good.

I will stand by my character no matter what they end up looking like.

Ugh... ZeplaHQ posting on ZepLIVE again.

@TFB100

2 ай бұрын

so?

@HikingFeral

2 ай бұрын

Why do you care? touch grass

as someone who plays au'ra, I love the new lip glosses, and eyes

didnt they alway have "DEAD" eyes... im not saying she wrong just alway thought these girls all had soulless eyes

@karurosu4121

2 ай бұрын

yeah aura face 1 appeal to many was their dead stare

i didn't check benchmark but now I'm terrified to check the differences...

The shading above the eyes is much darker and larger. The pupils are bigger, causing them to merge into the shadow. The pupils being bigger also makes them seem higher/the eyelids lower. The lighting on the eyes' color is lower. I, personally, am satisfied and would be satisfied with the way my character looks. But his eyes are in fact darker. Big shadows above someone's eyes, and their eyelids being lower, and their eyes going dark are all very common tropes of showing someone being dead behind their eyes. The eye shine being calculated results in it being smaller, and less often appearing makes it even worse. Eye shine is commonly used to indicate liveliness. Artificially added eye shine is FINE. This is ANIME STYLE. Genshin is an excellent example of this, it added so much liveliness. It's not realistic, no, but it is aesthetic and an aesthetic that has been removed. Artificial eye shine should be made toggleable. The perspective that artificial eye shine is unrealistic and people viewing more dynamic lighting on eyes as more lively is also a valid opinion, but it's not the only one.

I totally agree with what she says about the hair, looks like they ditched the shine to flatten everything and show the texture instead. Personally Im not blown away by the benchmark but will wait to see how my character looks in Dawntrail. Scared.

All of the lifeless/soulless stuff is nonsense to me, as I’m simply not seeing that any more in the new vs the old. I’m not seeing any dead eyes at all. Some of the specific shape things though are a concern like the bunny boy lips and riots will happen if catgirls don’t get their fangs back. Overall the lighting on the skin and lips looks so so much better on the new with less of the weird/harsh shadows of the originals. I do think they should add a few new options/toggles to reflect a few things like lip gloss and eyebrows, etc.

@cutecats532

2 ай бұрын

I turn my character in character creator toward the light so the pictures I took have the eye shine, I wonder if some people either don't know they can do that or just don't like that it's not permanent anymore.

I spend quite a bit of time looking at points of graphical fidelity in video games I mod (like Skyrim) in a vain attempt to make photo realistic gameplay. The new stuff looks much better but I think that the better quality lighting and texture decals make all of the reflective, shiny surfaces more muted. The real problem here seems to be a lack of options in the character creator. Giving people the ability to add gloss/matte and whatever else to different areas would be one of many things they could add to the CC, including more face shapes and the ability to further-diversify the faces (cheeks, chin, jaw, forhead, etc) and parts of the faces (eye lash density/length or eye size/angle, etc). That said, my 3090 and 10900K certainly _FELT_ the difference in the new textures and shading methods, particularly when using the GTAO Quality shading method. Went from 300+fps at 1440p to 120 if I'm lucky lol. It does look a helluva lot better when maxed out though, imo.

I think she was right in the end cuz SE is going to update the benchmark tool and some of the things she and others in the community pointed out were also mentioned by Yoshi P on the recent article.

I wish they just added more options... keep the old ones, and a new ones

thank god Yoshi-P has heard the concerns of the community - and they are gonna completely redo the Benchmark... lol damn must have got someone drunk to do it the first time

Going alongside this in the benchmark I noticed that at certain angles the subsurface scattering really shows on the face even when it shouldn't. Like in the Thanalan scene for the character creator, if you turn the character sideways relative to the sun and zoom in there's a reddish glow like when you hold a flashlight up to your hand. It's hard to notice at first with the clothing on, but with the contrast to the body's skin color it's a bit striking and very unnatural looking. That might be where the glow/uncanny look comes from that people are talking about. I think if they tone down the sss, at least on the face, it might solve a lot of problems. Anyone else notice this? Also, sad and missed opportunity, the bun ears don't have sss :(

the video is showing Aura face 1(not in EN severs so no idea how community call it), if someone try other 3 faces it's much easier to find the differences between now and benchmark. as a Aura 3(or crab horn), the eyes changed so much and when i try the blue eyes with black limbal ring, under the forest lighting, it just feels dead dead.

@junyifang5912

2 ай бұрын

also the eye ring still has a gap to the edge of the iris(not completely close) in the bench same as now 6.5

That new reaper shroud ability looks DOPE

I don't get the soul thing with the eyes. I think the eyes look better, but the other complaints I agree with.

Y'know, you keep going off on 'creative solutions' to fix stuff later, but some of us on console don't have that option lol

i have a fear that with all the people complaining about the removal of jank that ct 3 will add some of it back. her character looks great in the benchmark trailer and she calls it cursed. pupils arent small unless you are in direct sunlight facing the sun or if you have a ring light blasting your face. im just like please keep the dynamic lighting and shading, please dont add that weird forced eye shine back, please dont paint the shadows on the face.

@hkoizumi3134

2 ай бұрын

Imagine when they add Ray Tracing. They will go bunkers even though that is how real light behaves.

@Jade-nn3bn

2 ай бұрын

There are genuine criticisms to be had apart from the lighting. Most of the lips for every race need to be changed especially the lip textures as they have the same issue as au ra scales (patchy, pixelated, and blurry at the edges) and small pupils should be a toggle for au ra.

I like the new lips more. And I like everything about the character. Creator more besides the fact that things got taken away apparently.

@Dartania

2 ай бұрын

I agree

Let's be honest...the whole Character creator should get a revamp and update 🤷‍♂️

To be honest i always thought a lot of facial features were a little too exaggerated and I was glad to see many of them be toned down and smoothed out a bit. I agree that the character models could use a bit more gloss in places and that the eyebrows could stand to be a bit more defined, but overall I am very satisfied.

They are scrapping the benchmark and we are getting a new benchmark with the new lighting. Yoshi stated they didn’t update the character creation lighting and that’s the reason why we have an issue with the benchmark and that it was an oversight and apologized.

The shading/coloring/textures around the eyes has less contrast. Having contrast creates an illusion of depth. In other words, the eyes look less flat, which probably makes them seem more lifelike. Human eyes in the real world aren't flat. The illusion of depth tends to produce a more real or lifelike appearance. Granted, I'm simply speculating that this is what Aitherea was noticing in the video. But if it is what she was noticing, I tend to agree.

@hkoizumi3134

2 ай бұрын

This reminds me of that Face on Mars hoax. It's all about the shading and lighting.

Why is your twitch chat being rude? Making fun of the girl because they have different opinions.

Yoshi P came out earlier & said he knows about all of the issues! He said they are going to remake it & he will let us know! He said it has never been updated! They are going to release a newer version before Dawntrail!

In short, once the next expansion hits, everyone will be buying a "Phial of Fantasia" from Mog Station. Feels intentional.

I iz a mad keeper. They taking my fangies! Give back my fangies, nao! 😭

My miqo'te def lost me with the update, au'ras have become my new preferred race with this update. The skin looks blurry with the old patch, the updated version looks more detailed. It's a bit too shiny, though. I def would just want more customization options, because the update so far IS vibing with me, I like most of it, but it's causing so much indecisiveness in me now, because not a single race looks as good as it could be, because the options are abysmal. Just give us more options pls.

Blurriness usually comes from anti-aliasing. Did she try the different (new) options?

Sounds like pretty much everything she was criticising is being addressed, so there ya go lol. Personally I did notice the lighting was flat on my Viera WoL but that was about it. And I'm not too big on "shine" when it comes to skin personally, so that wasn't a big deal to me. In fact whenever that's an option in any char creator I tune it pretty low. That said, I heard the main problems were with characters that had lighter, "fair" skin so that may be why my Viera looked fine to me since she's darker.

I dont understand why Zepla doesnt see the dead eyes, the more round faces. My female highlander really looks quite different. Less compassionate, less kind, more lifeless.

@JoseLopez-us7zo

2 ай бұрын

Less polygons

I play aura and I agree with some And some not. The skin shine is a lil much hair is dull a little and lips could use more shine, But I love everything else being defined.

New cat lips look a lot prettier

I have a 4070ti and the benchmark ran poorly for me. At the end, it said Im only able to run it on high. Somehow I don't trust it.

@JadziaDaxDS9

Ай бұрын

What CPU do you have? Are you running the game on a slow hard drive? How much system RAM?

@AidenCaldwell

Ай бұрын

@@JadziaDaxDS9 Ryzen 5, 6-core, 16gb, two SSDs (the game runs on on the primary SSD, only with WoW for company)

These videos make me feel like I won the lottery lol. My Miqote boi still looks great and I only want to change his hair color.

The current benchmark was basically false advertising done behind YoshiP's back and somebody is definitely getting yelled at by now, he trusted them to check everything before releasing and as he said, they neglected it, now Yoshi has to hold their hand and stand behind them as they work, just be sure the benchmark 2.0 works. I get the mods joke, but things needs to work and look good in the original game in the first place, not everybody likes the extra work they have to do, that nobody else will see. The people that disagree with the issues, don't care about what they play as, they're most likely the type that just choose the default character, slap on some different colors and call it a day and show up only for patch content. Or they're just trolls making fun of other peoples ''ugly characters'' because their character still looks okay, or they haven't noticed yet and when they do, then it'll be too late, lucky you. My character also looked okay, only that now I've got missing fangs, now I have human teeth, the lips are obviously dry, I noticed that right away and the skin does look green/yellow either in the light or the shadow, if I wanted to be Shrek I would of picked green. People like taking pictures, of themselves, of backgrounds etc. They wont be able to not notice, they see their character all the time. When they take something away that you like, THEN you care.

@deanospimoniful

2 ай бұрын

Touch grass

This is a long video to say - "DLSS is now on and people don't realise what it's side effects are".

The eyes have the same texture as skin

people in this game complain about the stupidest shit

These changes in the faces and the rest feels like what just happened in Pokemon go not long ago. The character models look atrocious now, to the point that I have not logged in to the game since a couple of days after the changes, since I can't stand the change. I hope this is not the same for XIV, I would be very sad...

i really expect the light eyebrows and face paint to be relics of the lighting that yoshi p mentioned in his lodestone post. most of these types of issues will resolve with the benchmark 2.0.

They just need to overhaul character character

I already left because I didnt like the changes they made to my class now they could ruin my characters appearance as well. Hope im wrong

As a man, this video to me is something from another planet, I can't see half of the problems that they are talking about and they are so certain and afirmative about them. They are in another matrix.

All this drama about lips, eyes, skin, really goes to show how different the audience in FFXIV is from other MMOs like WoW.

@JoseLopez-us7zo

2 ай бұрын

I like to stare at my WOL a lot also glamour is the endgame

@Carlos-qg2me

2 ай бұрын

@@JoseLopez-us7zo its your endgame*

always has been

I dont get it, im new to ff14. But didnt Yoshi P said the Benchmark isnt finished and didnt represent the look ingame. So why is everybody still complaining insteed of waiting how it actually will look like and then decide ?

Took 14 minutes for zepla to say just use mods

au’ra wins the benchmark

I am surprised no one trolled yet by flipping images and calling people out on their BS.

For a character creation that is SUPER out of date compared to games from even 5 years ago these changes look good for a 10 plus year old game. I understand the attachment to your character, but some of the nit picking is a little ridiculous lol

Xiv players really will complain about anything huh? There is literally nothing wrong here...

I'm sorry, but this Aitherea girl comes off unhinged. I get the complaints with the lip detail, but everything else is subjective or needed better lighting. With a graphics update, minor details are guaranteed to change. This is a case where people are just used to flaws of the old system. The skin looks better now

2 views after 1 minute? Zepla fell off

@HikingFeral

2 ай бұрын

Nothing screams incel like talking about a streamer falling off

@RadPanther

2 ай бұрын

​@@HikingFeral r/Wooooosh

@Zaffie-

2 ай бұрын

​@@HikingFeral Nothing screams out of touch and unintelligent like completely misinterpreting a popular meme comment copypasta and defaulting to calling anyone who slights you an incel.

@LordFinkenstein

2 ай бұрын

​@@HikingFeralNot the first time I've seen you have a really bad take in Zepla's comments.

Dude people need to chill out. 1-2 days and they will get used to it. They are completely ignoring the fact that the current models are ugly and horrible as the nitpick the new ones because the line of the nose is 1 degree different. Hopefully they stop listening to the community. The community isn't better artists than the developers. They'll be happy in the long run. Btw she at one point mixed up which comparison was the benchmark and which was 6.58...and started ranting cluelessly about how bad the "benchmark" was.

@trollobvious8841

2 ай бұрын

It's a good thing JP doesn't listen to westerners if your take is to undermine everyone else's criticisms then say "square enix shouldnt listen to the community because it urks me how receptive they are to the feedback".

@lushen952

2 ай бұрын

@@trollobvious8841 ??? Their feedback was basically "these bugs are only in the benchmark and won't be in DT and that the lighting sucked and that's the cause of 99% of complaints" It's just PR. They're not listening to players they're padding the crying baby on the back.

@Zaffie-

2 ай бұрын

@@lushen952 Yapping

This isn't an upgrade, this is a compatibility update for xbox release.

@JadziaDaxDS9

Ай бұрын

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Damn, Aitherea is really boring to listen to. I'm sorry but its true.

23:41 i don't think they should add that, cuz it a race feature if you really don't like it i think you should play some race else.. cuz you basically said i hate this race. by said like this should be a optional