Where is Mike Bibby ranked among point guards of his generation? Should he have made at least 1 all star?

@Thecheese86

Жыл бұрын

Can you do Dexter Strickland UNC? Always wondered what happened to this dude...was nice!!!

@6elato33_7

Жыл бұрын

Definitely should have made all star 🌟 at least 1time

@theveteran8546

Жыл бұрын

Not sure where to rank him but he has to be above Francis and Star-bury and he should’ve made 1 Allstar game the year the kings lost to the lakers conference finals .

@evanj2carter571

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The comp was crazy in his area though.

@pineapplegritz7281

Жыл бұрын

Sheeesh didn't even realize Bibby was never an All-star. I'd put him top 30ish. Damn, I was compared him when I was in high school. Too bad I decided to go join the Army. Lol that's my stunted growth

His growth wasn’t stunted he just played during an era when his position ridiculously deep. Especially in the west. Definitely an all time underrated.

@ThaTruth223

Жыл бұрын

and got hurt way too much in his prime years

@blacknetsmed

Жыл бұрын

Nostalgia definitely affects people's perception of players. Bibby was about effective as he could possibly be as a basketball player.

@malcolmpuhawan3695

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@lne9070

Жыл бұрын

Just like Mike Conley

@justingoldman3026

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with this. Bibby was a terrific player, universally respected. But the guards in the west during his peak years were insane....Kobe, Steve Nash, Tony Parker, Tracy McGrady, Steve Francis, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton for the early part of the decade, Marbury - Later on CP3 & DWill...And the East had AI, Vince Carter, Jason Kidd again, Young Tmac, Gilbert Arenas, Wade... So I agree, his growth wasn't really stunted...he just played at a time, as you said, when the position was just insanely deep.

Damn didn't know Bibby never made an Allstar team. I feel like his name still holds a lot of weight in the basketball community. Just like his body post retirement 😂 dudes more jacked now than when he played

@BigSleeveLess

Жыл бұрын

SON I'm going get him tested for roids🤣🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't believe how big he got physically

@kurtyoung1011

Жыл бұрын

@@BigSleeveLess nah it’s not the roids he’s pissed the nba snubbed him he’s about to launch Adam Silver into the stratosphere 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@BigJordan92708

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtyoung1011 if not roids, its definitely TRT, Fathertime doesn’t work like that lol.

@kurtyoung1011

Жыл бұрын

@@BigJordan92708 true but he was in the nba training like a nba player so maybe since he’s been out he has free time to change his physique it’s possible with PEDS Father Time can be graceful to some but there is speculation you’re correct about that

@BigSleeveLess

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtyoung1011 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

His growth wasn't stunted. He had a great career, and he was a dependable and effective PG

@Culley91

Жыл бұрын

Facts was jus in unfortunate situations…..like cmon a year later the heat win and he was gone by then…..and the kings not pulling through on the lakers trade to pair him with Kobe

@supremkai1298

Жыл бұрын

@@Culley91 that is being stunted. He was stunted by the business of the NBA. How about u guys look up what being stunted means. He could have won a at least 1 or 2 championships either with Bron, Kobe or Webber. That is the definition of being stunted.

@supremkai1298

Жыл бұрын

yet he could have won a chip with Bron,Kobe or Webber. That is being stunted dumbass. Stunted by the business effects of the NBA. He could have been a Tony Parker/ Chauncey billups esc point guard if he won at least one chip. Now he isn't even a hall of famer. THATS THE VERY DEFINITION OF BEING STUNTED.

@Culley91

Жыл бұрын

@@supremkai1298 I know it’s being stunted but it’s kinda unfair when it out of someone’s full control…..especially a guy that was healthy and could contribute and wanted to be ina winning situation

@aubsta1

Жыл бұрын

@@supremkai1298 I'd argue that "failing" to win a championship in a team sport (emphasis on Team) is not the defintion of stunted growth. He controlled what he could, and grew into a very successful player. Conversely, winning the the ultimate prize (if that's what a trophy is ) as a part of the team doesn't mean that you've had a successful career and reached your potential.

Bibby was solid. He played like a "coaches kid" which really hurt him in the fan fare.

One of the most underrated PG’s in the 2000’s

Mike Bibby was underrated during his career. Thanks for the video 🏀

@jonathanwashington9199

Жыл бұрын

Mike Bibby Was Originally Drafted By The Vancouver Grizzlies

One of my favorite PG in the 2000's. His "I got cojones" celebration were epic. 😷🤣😂

Those Sacramento Kings teams from 2000-2004 were the teams I rooted for if it wasn’t my hometown Knicks. I modeled a lot of my early game after Mike Bibby. I don’t think he gets recognized enough for how good he was in his prime years. Teams would kill for a solid leader at the point like him in today’s NBA.

@iillestrs2153

Жыл бұрын

My family has had season tickets for 28 years to the kings, im still slightly dumbfounded they retired peja’s jersey, but not Bibby. He hit so many big shots and as much as us in sac loved j will, bibby turned the team into legit contenders. He also was basically the last to leave the team from that era

@raymondsmith2040

Жыл бұрын

He would always have a job in today's NBA. He was a very good scorer (though not ball-dominant), savvy, and didn't rely on crazy athleticism like alot of his peers did.

@amunraadeabraham5303

Жыл бұрын

@@iillestrs2153 Webber was cold. An Stojakovic. They were 20+ scorers.

@Eastsiderep40

Жыл бұрын

Probably because he doesn’t have any rings, he didn’t make any all stars, no all NBA’s. Just being fans of the game, we know Mike Bibby could ball. But without all the accolades you’re just another forgotten player.

@hisexcellency916

Жыл бұрын

@@amunraadeabraham5303 Don’t forget about Turkalou

He was a Sr in hs when I was a freshman. He dropped 30 a gave usually sitting out the 4th because of blow outs. He had NBA range in HS back then it was common. At U of A those teams were deep.

@user-nv2mr6nn7c

Жыл бұрын

Matador I see.

@iamalive.1255

Жыл бұрын

That's cool I'm Matador also except I graduated in 1988. He was in fourth grade when I graduated so I missed him LOL.

I've said it on other threads. I was a Jason Williams fan and Bibby fan. But you have to look back on history and give credit where it's due. Look at how much greater Bibby made those Kings teams. And that 08 Atlanta playoff series with Boston was fun as hell to me.

A lot people dont know his Pops was Henry Bibby he played with Dr J's 76ers back in the late 70's.

@erwinhouser7704

Жыл бұрын

And the Knicks

@MrOneanddone91

Жыл бұрын

Yeahp he played with Kobe's dad too

Bibby was as solid as they came…jumper was lethal and was a knock down shooter…his college run in Arizona was even more elite…salute to Bibby definitely a all-star point in my book 🫡‼️

This isn't a stunted growth, this is what having every advantage given to you looks like.

@stuntedgrowth

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@KobaniacMinded

Жыл бұрын

Alot of players had advantages Ewing jr., Seth curry, Austin rivers, etc. None of which was CLOSE to bibby he had game

@benchwarmerss9165

Жыл бұрын

@@KobaniacMinded crazy enough he was never done .. even with the Knicks … I’m half way thru the video but I’m sure it’s coming 😂😂 stunt number 3 : going to the Knicks …. As a Knicks fan we had nothing to do with that . Better blame atl

@KobaniacMinded

Жыл бұрын

@@benchwarmerss9165 😆 🤣 😂 Knicks got a way of totally dismantling the rest of a players talent

@benchwarmerss9165

Жыл бұрын

@@KobaniacMinded truth be told who have we had went on to be a mega star? They barely helped teams and people were like the Knicks gave him up!!! Even Knicks fans .. people like Channing Frye and iman shumpert for example . Iman could ball but he wasn’t no kobe

Mike Bibby was a early Steff Curry back in the day one of the best point guards that I have ever seen play along with Bobby Jackson both of them have heart that you really don't see with today's players much respect Bibby. Go Kings!

The Kings were the squad I watched and emulated in my hooping days in high school I wore number 10 because of him and Hardaway Sr. Great video I couldn’t agree more on what stunted his growth I can tell you actually watched his game in real time . Salute to you bro🐐

Man one of my favorite point guards although I never knew about him until after he finished playing because when he was I was in my early elementary years

@LonokeCountyResearch501

Жыл бұрын

You had to be there to watch him at Arizona then hit the league 🔥‼️

My cousin stole my Mike Bibby jersey when we was teens & I still don't mess with him til this day 🤷🏾‍♂️

I think if the Kings weren’t cheated in 2002 , Bibby would’ve arrived . He was playing better than most guards in those playoff but he got shafted. After that year it just wasn’t the same….. it was his time to shine and he was cheated out of it.

Bobby Jackson was also nice for those 2002-03 Sacramento Kings.

@mgene8093

Жыл бұрын

The bench squad for the early 2000 kings was nasty

@darnelldarden9429

Жыл бұрын

Bobby Jackson was a problem for real

@darnelldarden9429

Жыл бұрын

@@mgene8093 Jackson and Turkoglu was nice off the bench

@BigSleeveLess

Жыл бұрын

FACTS Bobby Jackson was nice there and backing up Chris Paul in New Orleans

Damn that’s crazy that he never made an all star team but the one word I would use to describe Bibby is Pro! He went about his business n showed up n did his job

I got to meet him last year it was an honor 🎖 🥇 I told him that they got robbed in that 2002 western conference finals he should have a ring also I told him like how he and the hawks pushed the Celtics to 7 games and was happy when he came to NYC

The Kings GM Really Hurt Bibby With Not Trading Him To CLE With LBJ Or LA With Kobe. They Could’ve Made Those Move As A Thank You Gesture To Bibby For His Hardwork To The Franchise.

@velcapitan

Жыл бұрын

Loser franchise makes loser moves.

Mike looks like he just got out the pen these days.

We (he) were (was) robbed of a Chip...by the Lakers, League and refs.

@robertmoore4424

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man he definitely was

@NewGoldie

Жыл бұрын

Idk why yall assume you beat the Nets that year.

@GerryHutchings

Жыл бұрын

@@NewGoldie Cause nobody could beat the Kings around that time. Thats why the Lakers needed help

@TheOlmonroe1

Ай бұрын

They had one shot at home Game 7 and couldn't get the job done. The refs didn't shoot 14-30 from the free throw line or go 1-15 from 3 which they led the NBA in both categories that season.

Bibby was great, but to me Rod Strickland is a better guard never named an All-Star

@antoni.guzman

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

Honestly he was basically what mike conley was during his prime years. A solid to sometimes star level point guard that just couldn’t make the list due to the over crowded talent at his position. The only difference is mike got a nod due to what I’d assume is pity because that year wasn’t his best in comparison to the past ones.

@mistermann3225

Жыл бұрын

This comparison is so spot-on. Liked Mike Conley too. Followed his career since Ohio State.

Been waiting for this SG video for a minute! I became a fan during his 2nd year at Arizona. He was such a solid PG. Kings should've been in the Finals that year when the refs gave them that series.

@aceassn716

Жыл бұрын

Exactly only 40free throws in game 7

@goodfellabeats

Жыл бұрын

@@aceassn716 They shot about the same amount of FT's in game 7. About 30 each. But game 7 should've never happened because the refs gave Lakers game 6.

@darnelldarden9429

Жыл бұрын

Refs definitely saved Shaq and Kobe

@iamalive.1255

Жыл бұрын

Kings should have won it all that year they got robbed.

Forces beyond his control. He maximized his talent . Was a lunch pail pro . Others were quicker bigger stronger genetically . He didn't stunt his own growth. Other than the kings team he rarely had the surrounding super talent . Coaches dream really. Growth maximized really. Man knew his limitations and his skills . What others are or do is beyond one's control. Mike was total success at being MIKE. A pros pro.

Mike Bibby super underrated‼️‼️‼️

I always mention Bibby when folks talk about how this new era is so great. Bibby would be a top guard today, and he never made the All Star team in his era. The guard position was just too deep for him to get the nod each year. He certainly didn't have stunted growth, he had a very good career and is remembered like an All Star.

Mike will always be an all-time great. He was such a joy to watch because he was a great floor general and made basketball seem effortless. He played with such fluid efficiency.

I'm from BC (British Columbia, Canada) and I followed Bibby in his early career with the Vancouver Grizzlies so I'm "In the know" about his career more than most others. I'm probably an expert at this point.

The guy who reminds me of Mike Bibby in present day is Jalen Brunson. Similar body type, not particularly special at one thing but is good at alot of things and has a scoring mentality when necessary.

@colleenbaldridge6743

Жыл бұрын

Nah bibby a solid 6’2, Brunson is 5’10 on a good day. But I see what you mean as far as all around players

he had the unfortunate luck of being on the kings after their collapse. but even after they fell from being championship contenders they were still a playoff team because of Bibby. if he would of asked for a trade sooner or signed with a good team he definitely would of been appreciated more.

There’s always a few guys I give the all star nod to even though they never were recognized for it by the league. Lamar Odom for a bit, Strickland, Camby, Ibaka. The games been a joke for a bit now so probably better off not playing.

@kennyk9579

Жыл бұрын

Andre Miller is another one

@Culley91

Жыл бұрын

Nick van exel

@SwagMasterSexiness

Жыл бұрын

Jr smith was all star caliber before traded to Cleveland

Great video. I am sure Mike would be appreciated that he is remembered.

Great selection -- Bibby was a Classic! Would like to see a Jordan Farmar (UCLA; Lakers) next! 🙏🏾

I always look forward to your videos and you never disappoint. Keep doing your thing

Stoked to be here this early your vids are like therapy for me at work bro please keep the content coming!!!! 🔥

Dude he had a great career! Starting from Vancouver grizzlies. He killed it in Sacramento kings run. He had no stunt growth dude

When he was a senior, I got to watch him at shadow mountain. I was in eight grade.

Mike is a prime example of being lost in the sauce. He definitely should've been an All-Star.

That Mike Bibby/Bobby Jackson combo in Sacramento was one of the best

Mike Bibby was a nice, efficient, underrated pg in an era of the late 1990's and early 2000's where there were flashier and more spectacular pgs such as Allan Iverson and Jason Kidd.

Bibby was primarily a spot-up shooter. The Princeton style offense didn't require a PG to drive and dish or play much pick and roll, so his assist numbers weren't as high as they could have been (and Divac's assist numbers were high because everybody passes the ball in this kind of scheme and he was a perfect center for it). Bibby's remembered because he was insanely clutch.

You mean Rod Strickland? He was the best guard to not make an all star team

@aaronhutchinson885

Жыл бұрын

Exactly....

@TheOutspokenIntrovert23

Жыл бұрын

Right!

Do Emeka Okafor next. Always felt like he underachieved

I feel like if the kings weren't screwed in 02 the trajectory of mikes career would change

Great video Mike was a stud!!!!

Beautiful work j.c. keep at it

@stuntedgrowth

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Allstar or not his kings jersey was and will always be 🔥

Thank you so much for making this video. I've been waiting for this one. Another very underrated player that I would love to see a video on is Shareef Abdur-Rahim. I am from Vancouver and those two along with Big Country that you already made a video about were our "Big 3". Abdur-Rahim made 1 all star team but looking at his stats, I truly believe had he been on some better teams that he would have been much bigger than he was.

As a kings fan I have to say this mana growth wasn’t stunted. He spent his best years being a team player instead of caring about his numbers. And like you said. The league had the best guard play ever at that time

Damn, this feature made me think about Andre Miller for some reason.

Noticed Bibby in the McDonald's ALL American game and Shaheen was giving him the work. As you stated, a very unspectacular career but consistent. Would love to see something on Kareem Reid of Arkansas or Conrad McCrae of Syracuse.

@juliandavis8964

Жыл бұрын

shaheen was 3 yrs older. he shouldve

@alturrick

Жыл бұрын

@@juliandavis89641 yr/7m, your math ain't mathing.

@juliandavis8964

Жыл бұрын

@@alturrick what does 1 yr 7m have to do with what I said? 😒

@velcapitan

Жыл бұрын

So Sad

The early 2000’s Kings were incredible to watch. It’s terrible how inept that franchise has become

@raymondsmith2040

Жыл бұрын

They were way before their time too. The way you see offense run today is how they ran it back then. Bibby coming off screens with Divac/Webber handling the ball up top was almost unheard of. Now it's routine.

I enjoyed this video a great deal!!! Bibby was one of my favorites back then! Mostly because he was a Professional ❗️😎👍🏽👍🏽

I went to Shadow because of Bibby. I wanted to be a Wildcat because of him. Dude is legend in my eyes.

@iamalive.1255

Жыл бұрын

SMHS class of 1988 here.

I can't wait to see you do a video for Mike Conley when he retires. He falls into the same category as Mike Conley. Ironically, their both named Mike.

Bibby was a true point guard!! He could hoop!!!!

Mike Bibby terrified me during 2002 as a Lakers fan

Mike Bibby got one of the best Jordan PE Collections no question

I remember mike Bibby played for the Knicks one season when amare and melo was there

I love that period in NBA, from the mid 90's to mid 2000's

Bibby career wasn't stunted. He was unathletic, inconsistent shooter, slow footed on defense and was always a product of the teammates he had. He was a 2nd tier player in the NBA maybe even 3rd tier. Typical serviceable guard. He wasn't gonna perform better than he did.

@stuntedgrowth

Жыл бұрын

He was drafted 2nd overall and expected to be one of the elite point guards. I see what you're saying though

@Manny-nm8dh

Жыл бұрын

From the neck up makes up for all those other shortcomings. He wad a floor general not a iso player.

@ProdbyGrimeyred

Жыл бұрын

@@stuntedgrowth we know by watching if dudes gonna fulfill their potential, barring injuries. Mike was solid without a doubt. He was just one of them players that was always there. Meaning ok, he can play but what's next? Is there another for him to got to.

@ProdbyGrimeyred

Жыл бұрын

@@Manny-nm8dh we talking overall basketball skill not iso skills. Yes he was a floor general but that was it. Nothing he did was to be prepared for. He was never a threat. Teams didn't prepare for Bibby.

@ProdbyGrimeyred

Жыл бұрын

@@mezzb well let's see. Who would be considered tier 1? Lebron/Kawhi/Luka/KD/Kyrie/Giannis/Curry/Embiid/Joker/Dame. Is Tatum and Ja on that line? I'm not taking Tatum or Ja before anybody I mentioned

This is definitely the one right here!! Literally my All Time favorite PG

Hey buddy love the videos keep up the good work I am from New Jersey I remember the guy from Jersey City Terry dehere played at Seton hall I think you should do story on him??

As a mavericks fan. Those mavs vs kings playoff series were a beautiful thing to watch. So much fun and so frustrating

Very solid and clutch PG…he had a good post up game for a guard on top of being a solid shooter and floor spacer too. He wasn’t Chris Paul or DWill but he was a good consolation prize at point for Hawks fans after the Marvin Williams pick lol

Great video about my favorite player of all time, yes it’s because I’m a kings fan favorite player on my favorite team, mike would beat all those guys too and still no nod for all star or anything, great video man keep up the great work

I remember him. He was so good in clutch moments, and really was on the door of a championship if not for the Lakers. A few questionable calls cost his team a trip to the finals.

Great video! I saw him in his best years with the Kings. Those teams just could r get past the Lakers. You had him, Webber, Divac, Stojakavic and Doug Christie. Decent squad.

I remember watching this guy play he was an amazing ball player

Mike Bobby was solid all around

Mike Bibby was a PROBLEM. He gave Shaq and Kobe hell and all they could handle in the playoffs. His mid range jumper off that pick and roll was damn near automatic, he was so good

I always compared Bibby to Kidd. They had a very similar style with their skills as a PGs. At least that’s how I seen it 🔥🔥

He was our All Star.... Sacramento Legend still in the city fuckn with the People... Bibby a Real One🤙🏿

That point God roll call was crazy ‼️

I always LOVED Mike Bibby! Aside from the Celtics & Larry Bird, the only other games I watched were the Sac Kings in the Vlade & Bibby years

Bibby was definitely one of the more underrated 2000 PGs. A couple of good stories would be Jimmer Fredette and Raymond Felton.

damn that was a dope time! we were spoiled and didnt even know it.

UA was a Jordan brand school back then those 13 lows 🔥

Killer as a freshman at Arizona ice in his. Veins all i ever remember him for 🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯😭😭

Still have my XXL kings Bibby jersey from the early aughts, just a dress now but at the time it was 🔥 lol. Would love to see one on Joe Smith. 🙏

My favorite player growing up

How about a Stunted on Deron Williams? It's long overdue bruh.

@stuntedgrowth You gotta do one on Joe Johnson 🧐🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️

His steady hand took the Kings to another level.

As a life long Kings fan, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Bibby.

The Kings got screwed against the Lakers. He would be thought of way different if not for that. I believe everything Tim Donaghy said about the league instructions to refs on certain matchups

@iamalive.1255

Жыл бұрын

Kings got robbed in 2002 the way the Suns got robbed in 2007.

I remember Shaheen Hollaway St Patrick's Elizabeth,NJ (New Coach at Seton Hall) killing Bibby in High School and at the McDonald's All American game💯‼️ Salute to Bibby. He was tough, I forgot he played in ATL & Miami?? I remember his pops, Henry Bibby who played for my sixers.

He was soo good . He would take a 20 foot jumper and you can see him say " woooohooooo" I remember.

Bibby Really doesn’t get his credit frfr bc Bibby had the work if you thought it was game out there he would give you the business ‼️‼️‼️

he ws cold...he was clutch too

He stood out enough in my opinion as being a solid point guard, he could run the team, create for his teammates, shoot at an elite clip, play off ball, and hit clutch shots. The west was just stacked with good point guards but Bibby should’ve made an all star team at least once.

Bibby was a beast

Well at least he has one of the arguably best Jordan collections in the history of humanity lol.. Mike was nice.. I loved his game.

I think he wasn't a All-star PG even at his best. He was more scoring guard on a good passing team. Most PGs in that ERA ran the show 8+ asst consistently..Bibby, was a jump shooting guard playing in a great system for his skill set while he was with the kings. He would be better in this era. He wasn't ever really a traditional PG. Big shot taker/maker. His time with the Grizzlies, although they were a terrible team. His numbers weren't crazy. The best PG to not make the allstar team is Rod Strickland, the current labelled PGS in this era, is the best era. Appreciate the video. I remember Bibby more for his MJ PEs than his ability to be an All-star level player

The 2002 Kings should've popped champagne that year 🥂