5 years from now in cinema: "Somehow.. Sauron returned"

@NJ-e

20 күн бұрын

I Dare u.

@HelloMyFriend_

20 күн бұрын

Hell no. BTW Disney trilogy is not canon no matter how hard they try.

@cameronjones8641

19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂👌🏼. You forgot to add. As a boss bitch💪🏼

@cameronjones8641

19 күн бұрын

​@@HelloMyFriend_Agreed 👍🏼

@darkhighwayman1757

19 күн бұрын

Do not tempt fate

Morgoth (chopped up and drifting in the Endless Void): "Okay, okay, don't panic, Morgy, Sauron knows the plan, we talked about it, he's gonna do the ring thing, he's gonna take over, he's gonna fish me out of this place-" Sauron (bodiless) " Hey." Morgoth: ".....fuuuccckkkkkkkkk...."

@joeramirez5460

22 күн бұрын

I had a good chuckle

@kaievoke

20 күн бұрын

Morgy had me dying

@joeramirez5460

20 күн бұрын

@@kaievoke I would of imagined that Morgoth would of been like Gordon Ramsay "You Fucking Donkey why would you put so much of your essence into a ring for it to be destroyed by a hobbit and a foul looking creature with Multiple personalities!"

@clarencewoodbine6266

19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@chadpeterson5698

18 күн бұрын

@@joeramirez5460 He would also say “If I had my hands and legs, I’d beat your ass into a pulp.”

He drifted off into the East, and now does cold calls selling solar panels

@joelsullivan1248

17 күн бұрын

I saw him working at Starbucks. Can’t knock a guy for just trying to move forward

@tomardans4258

16 күн бұрын

@@joelsullivan1248 that might have been one of the Nazgûl. Many of them work in retail as well. Very bitchy.

@Technotranceism

16 күн бұрын

I thought it was extended car warranty calls 🤷

@rabd3721

5 күн бұрын

He's the one that keeps calling about your car's extended warranty.

@rabd3721

5 күн бұрын

@@Technotranceism Got dangit I literally came here to write that joke!

Sauron would be happy with the way things are going today.

@NeonNijahn

22 күн бұрын

😅

@nathanmeredith

21 күн бұрын

Well duh. Who do you think started the Ukraine war? /s

@nivastudios2258

21 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@Trumptheman72

20 күн бұрын

We don't have Sauron... We have Soros. Both are evil and just won't die!

@evilmoffintop6081

20 күн бұрын

That is a horrifying thought, though yeah, he probably would be

I forgot for a second that Sauron is a fictional character and felt his dark presence. Excellent storytelling!

@Minifutzi_o.O

11 күн бұрын

hug him

Those artworks, the constant deep dark ambient melody in the background, the narration puts you into the story as if you are a part of it. Massive. Well done.

Tolkien wrote he was maimed and became a “spirit of malice” that would gnaw at itself in the dark, but never again could he recover or take shape.

@ZeroOmega-vg8nq

22 күн бұрын

stuck in the retconium with horus lupercal and malal lol

@lewislewis3531

10 күн бұрын

He got beat so bad, he became a cosmic fart

@pancakes8670

2 күн бұрын

A fitting followup to the idea of "Evil destroying itself", the reason Sauron lost in the first place (Gollum and Frodo fighting over the Ring). Whatever remains of Sauron is stuck in a forever war with itself. Nothing left to hate but himself.

I couldn’t imagine a worse fate than being a shrivelled husk, forced to watch the world pass you by, forever.

@julianmarco4185

23 күн бұрын

Allow me to introduce you to something called an Old Folks home.

@wesleyfilms

23 күн бұрын

Imagine being in an old folks home, but it lasts forever 👻

@vezolf4313

22 күн бұрын

Morgoth do this to Hurin. With his power he seated Hurin in stone throne, and show him how his children and his dynasty fall by his manipulation and after that he let him go. Thats how fall of gondolin start

@hackett152332

21 күн бұрын

Joe Biden

@MycketTuff

21 күн бұрын

How are you any different?

A good ending for Sauron would be to lose his malice and his will to dominate all life, as he poured that into the ring and it would be destroyed together with the ring. This would make Sauron probably still vengeful for some time, but he would find himself unable to focus on his old character traits and would have to get used to the existence without them.

@Ar-Pharazon21

23 күн бұрын

He essentially was just there. No directed thought or malice. Until dagor dagorath

@masonmag

23 күн бұрын

I had never thought of it like that 👍

@FirstLast_Nba

23 күн бұрын

@pavelslama5543 His malice IS him! His personality, if changed, would be as if he developed amnesia, he would not be himself anymore. It is identical to Satan not being satanic! He would not be him anymore. They are who they are because they HAVE to be who they are. It is the degree of your ego that will or will not allow you to change, and their ego would most definitely NEVER allow that, with or without power. IMHO.

@socrabe

22 күн бұрын

He would pledge his life to find the Entwives

@cameronjones8641

22 күн бұрын

​@@FirstLast_NbaExcellent post and very accurate.

Hold on a second. This makes me wonder... Sauron's ring is not so much a ring of power but a ring of defeat mitigation. In RPG terms, imagine a game in which everytime you die your stats are reset to 1 when you respawn and you have to grind again or wait and slowly recover the stats back through resting. So then, in order to mitigate this you forge a ring and you transfer 60% of all your stats when you're the most powerful you've been. That means when you die again you will reset back to 1 but put the ring back on and you get all those stats you had stored in the ring previously. Allowing to bypass a lot of penalty from defeat

@AxleTrade

5 күн бұрын

Imo it’s more like the journal in project zomboid where, like your description, when you read it you immediately get skill exp boosts and they also return to the same level during your peak. But once it’s gone you’re forever spectating the other players on the server as a ghost that can send an incoherent message once a day to the chat that will be ignored because it’s rolling by so fast.

He is hanging out with his old master Melkor, testing each other with riddles, to see who gets to go hunt for the ‘Imperishable Flame 🔥’ of Illuvatar

I love that this feels like a documentary made in universe.

My own head cannon has always been that Sauron lost the ability to manifest himself in any physical way. He exists in Middle Earth, barely coherent, nearly insensate, lingering forever in quasi unconsciousness.

@black_rabbit_0f_inle805

7 күн бұрын

Thats what Tolkien said.

Off to the void with you. Void being the cold nothingness of space. No stars or anything else, just cold, dark, lifeless void.

@markg.7865

19 күн бұрын

The void is the absence of God, where the lake of fire/hell will be cast.

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

16 күн бұрын

@@markg.7865 The void is just that. A void. Where nothing exist. Lake of fire and or hell would make the void no longer a void.

@dretchlord873

8 күн бұрын

We don't even know what a void would look like. Even black is something but not a void

@Fokko

10 сағат бұрын

@@dretchlord873so black is infinite nothing ⁉️ Whaaaaaaaaat🥴🙄

Poor Sauron. He was a good boy. He just got with the wrong crowd. He was misunderstood.

@NCfrost82

10 күн бұрын

Im pretty sure big S's mom said that.

@fallenberet7955

6 күн бұрын

If disney ever took the IP this is the way they would tell the story

@DoctorFail

6 күн бұрын

Free my boi he didn't do nothin'!

Sauron existing today would explain a lot.

@MycketTuff

21 күн бұрын

Sauron and his master Melkor are merely misunderstood

@-Gut--

20 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@MycketTuffevery JoeBin supporter lol

@antonk.653

18 күн бұрын

@@MycketTuff Yeah, you sound like an average Griffith enjoyer.

@ziephel-6780

17 күн бұрын

It does actually

@Aristocratic13

17 күн бұрын

@@antonk.653FrFr

The Numenorian Soliers who followed their King into the undying lands, but werent actually evil but just following orders, entrapped in earth for eternity until the last day: "Man this blows. ..."

Sauron being a malignant spectre gnawing at itself without the best part of himself from the beginning from which all his strength came must be such a curse indeed... Forever as time went on... All his memory gets older and older and that time that he once was the dark lord is gone. To have lost the war for middle earth must impress upon him forever like a doom worse than death.

Melkor and Sauron sitting there in a dark void... waiting. What could ever possibly go wrong? 😅

@Enerdhil

22 күн бұрын

That's how we get the Dagor Dagorath.

@darkhighwayman1757

19 күн бұрын

I always imagined a far future middle earth with high science and old tales of elves and dwarves. Then scientists find something in a volcanic region of the state of Gondor....

@AeroZephron

19 күн бұрын

@@darkhighwayman1757 "Let him cook." ;)

@Enerdhil

19 күн бұрын

@@darkhighwayman1757 A Palantir perhaps?🤔

@Iflie

18 күн бұрын

Some goth kid with a ouija board.... let's summon Sauron! haha

This video immediately enthralled me just wow this channel never fails to impress, all the love and admiration of the Valar

Imagine Sauron came back today, and the Orcs have access to modern military equipment and an air force.

@markaguilera493

17 күн бұрын

Sounds like Russia.

@z1az285

14 күн бұрын

erik prince

@HowlinWilf13

11 күн бұрын

He's back and he invaded Ukraine. He's getting his ass kicked. Once again. 😁

@z1az285

11 күн бұрын

@@HowlinWilf13 No, try dick Cheney or rumsfeld. there was a cartoon about the four horseman of the apocalypse. the other two were gw bush and wolfowitz

@HowlinWilf13

10 күн бұрын

@@z1az285 No, the only one trying to steal another country's sovereign territory is Sauron putin.

Excellent video! Only one small remark: at the end of the Third Age, what "killed" Sauron (i.e irretrievably damaged his body ) was not the destruction of the One Ring, it was instead the collapse of Barad-Dur that immediately followed.

Man.. you've put this whole franchise into a beautiful perspective for me. Because at the end of the trilogy, the only thing I wondered was: "what happened to Sauron after all this?"

The artwork in this one is fantastic. These just keep getting better and better!

He was reincarnated into our reality as a guy who tends the shoe rental counter at a bowling alley. Probably one in Toledo.

Sauron lives on as a powerless evil fart cloud. Yet though he strives mighty to dealt it no one in Middle Earth ever again smelt it. Mainly because Tolkien never wrote Return of the Shadow.

@tommyrott9213

18 күн бұрын

is it an odorless fart cloud?

@Ryan-gw3yv

17 күн бұрын

If a fart cloud exists where no one can smell it, does it have a scent?

@resonator23

15 күн бұрын

​@@Ryan-gw3yv does a balrog sh!t in the woods?

A surprisingly good video. I expected the usual "he lost his ability to interact with and affect the world", but this was a very indepth and thoughtful analysis

Actually when men die, their fëar first go to the Halls of Mandos for a short time and then go to a place set aside by Eru as a "Gift."

@ryansauchuk7290

18 күн бұрын

The only reason for a constant supply of souls of insanely simple and stupid beings is food. Eru intervened because Melky and S boy were screwing up the harvest

The One Ring was the original Horcrux...

@takeiteasy2232

21 күн бұрын

Voldemort is a Lich in the end...

@invisibleman4827

8 күн бұрын

​@takeiteasy2232 both sauron and voldemort had a similar fate in the end

I like to imagine sauron managing a dmv somewhere on the east coast these days.

Sauron is waiting for Half-Live 3 to have an excuse to return.

In other words, a Hungry Ghost, wandering in the Bardo.

I commend you for not only your reading of the texts in the HoME series, but more importantly your solid COMPRESSION of them. Well done indeed. This video is what is getting me to subscribe. If it's quality is representative of all your content, I'm only sad I didn't find the channel sooner. ❤

From what I hear, he's been hanging around, spending most of his time in the pub at the bar, and getting drunk... And reminiscing about the good old days!! He is making an absolute pain on himself! Yet it must be hard being a former dictator, now exiled, knowing that everyone hates you.... Meanwhile he's plotting his revenge!!!

@yurikendal4868

19 күн бұрын

Hes not capable of plotting

@babystacks

18 күн бұрын

Locked up in the basement of The Winchester

@tobyclayton2597

16 күн бұрын

That might be Saruman. I thought that Sauron was working behind the scenes while the eight remaining wraiths had possessed the top mandarins of each and every leader of the eight most powerful nations. 😂🤔

@black_rabbit_0f_inle805

7 күн бұрын

Im imagining a LOTR inspired Cheers where Sauron is Norm.

Where did this channel come from? It’s amazing; respectful of the source material, informative and sophisticated and the narrators voice is just *chefs kiss*

Great channel! I also like the new narration voice

sauron was probably thrown into a remote part of the galaxy.

came across ur channel about a month ago, watched all ur vids and GET SO FRICKIN HYPE WHENEVER U DROP ANOTHER 1 LETS GO BABY WOOOOOOOO!!!

Love this channel 🖤

So Sauron became Disney...

@999haunted

2 күн бұрын

And Amazon

@ryannn97227

Күн бұрын

I love how Disney is just a meaningless buzzword commented on videos lmao. Just noise. Wyem??

11/10 LOTR lore vid. Thanks for this, it makes the story so much richer

Was "King of Kings" vainglorious though? Was it really? Or was it all part of the plan to allow Sauron to get close to Ar-Pharazôn so he could poison him against the Valar? Seems much more likely to be the latter to me.

@Ar-Pharazon21

23 күн бұрын

You are correct

@Enerdhil

22 күн бұрын

"King of Men" and "Lord of the World" are two other titles Sauron gave to himself. I think he was "vainglorious" with the titles because he did not really know how powerful the Numenorians were until they came knocking on his door at Barad-dür.

@nIhIl34

22 күн бұрын

well spotted. Sauron doesn't want to be 'seen' as king of kings, he just wants to be the king of kings; it was psy ops to provoke ar phaeazon to war and then beguile him with skill and bribe him with esoteric power that would help him against the elves he had a cultural rivalry with. Sauron spends lives for his own advancement so the armies were an easy waste, because he can always rely on the vast hordes of orcs he has under his disposal to enforce his will.

@vezolf4313

22 күн бұрын

Why dont read the books 🙄

That was absolutely a joy to watch. So full from both book ends of imagination and written lore. Illustrations and tone bringing it in as a warm scary cup of smoking delicious Elvin tea.

Amazing work

Thank you for this one! keep up the amazing work!

He is at a retirement community in Florida called the villages. He's having fun and meeting new and exciting people.

@zaprowsdower9390

3 күн бұрын

Where he forged a mighty pineapple 🍍.

very nice video. love the sound effects & music in particular

Presentation, narration and visual images are excellent - had me engrossed throughout. :)

This is unbelievably good! My favorite villain of all time. Thank you!

I’ll save you 30 minutes. He’s floating in the void playing solitaire until end of time.

@Enerdhil

22 күн бұрын

No. Just until the Dagor Dagorath. Then he can reunite with his master Morgoth and fight against the Ainur, Elves and Edain.

@markg.7865

19 күн бұрын

​@@EnerdhilIs that before or after the rise of the Empire and destruction of the Death Star......😊

@Enerdhil

19 күн бұрын

@@markg.7865 Yes.😜

@AnnaMarianne

8 сағат бұрын

These 30 minutes were very well spent. I'd been robbed had I not seen this excellent video.

Narrator voice is perfect ❤ Focusing me. Sharping my mind and thoughts❤

Excellent research on this one. You went deep.

Sauron will always be around. He’s immortal. He’s part of Alluvitar’s plan.

Great video. Thanks for posting

This type of content is why I'm subscribed. Thank you for this.

that was really good, thank you, very glad i subbed recently

Absolutely astonishing video ! Thanks a lot!

Fan canon theory: Sauron is the same character as "The Beast" in the movie "Poltergeist." "He knows what frightens you. He has from the beginning..."

A great understanding and background history of the Sauron and the Lord of the rings thank you for your brilliant analysis

This was a masterful documentary, as good as any produced for broadcast television. It was wonderful and spellbinding - thank you 🥰

This is a masterpiece good sir. I can not express how I've fascinated by this work of art. Hats off

I really appreciate the time you put into this.

Great video - it also brings to mind the demise of Saruman (a fellow Maiar), …”about the body of Saruman a grey mist gathered, and rising slowly to a great height like smoke from fire, as a pale shrouded figure it loomed over the hill. For a moment it wavered, looking to the West; but out of the west came a cold wind, and it bent away, and with a sigh dissolved into nothing.”

So well done

dude, those images from the Silmarillion at the beginning of the video were amazing, excellent find/make

Excellent analysis - the ending was *chef's kiss*

Great analysis, thank you! 🙌🏻 I like more the previous voice, but this was fine as well.

I hope a movie is made about Sauron after Tolkien's most bitter relatives have passed.

Best LOTR video ever! Thank you.

Ahh, the story of how SAURON became SAUROFF

@OwnedbyCorgis

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

In other words, Sauron will spend eternity in the Void which is devoid of time. That is worse than hell if you think about it.

I bet Gandalf missed the Leaf of the Halflings when he returned to Valinor, but then again, perhaps Frodo brought some seeds with him 😂

@ryansauchuk7290

18 күн бұрын

The Chad Longbottom vs the Virgin Yavanna

I love to watch these before sleep

The thing is, Melkor and Sauron could return. That was what Sauron was trying to do on Numenor after all - open the gates of night

I think it's been mentioned before, but why did the movie take out the most important part of the story? And that's what happened AFTER the ring was destroyed and all the hobbits rising up and now having the courage to fight against the evil that entered their home?

@greylithwolf

23 күн бұрын

Cause casuals don't give a fuck about Hobbits.

@dynjarren5454

22 күн бұрын

Not seeing Tom Bombadil is still a big let down but it is what it is

@bewmdogg

22 күн бұрын

@@dynjarren5454 Bombadil had no real plot expansion and would have changed the tone of the films. Having said that it would have been interesting to see what Jackson would have done if he kept him in. But yeah not really needed.

@FirstLast_Nba

21 күн бұрын

@@OOL-UV2 I'm sure he did, But that is the excuse THEY all use! Because the real hero of any story is not the one who does everything by himself - Hollywood Cape Crap - but it is the man who inspires and gives courage to all other men to rise up and fight against the Evil of oppression. And that can never be allowed in Hollywood.

@FirstLast_Nba

21 күн бұрын

@@OOL-UV2 I'm sure he did! But that is the excuse (They) all use. Because the real hero in any story is not the man does everything by himself - Hollywood Cape C**p - but the man who inspires and gives courage to the rest of men to rise up and together fight the Evil of oppression. Hollywood will NEVER allow THAT message to EVER happen. That's why the most important part of the story was ripped out, and instead we got the most pathetic and *** ending ever.

Fantastic work, good fellow! I am going to spend all day going down the "rabbit hole" that is your channel. Thank you!

Really great work!

Sauron's Dark Soul was forever cast away, I think.

I really love your channel. Thank you for your work.

You my friend, are one of the best narrator's I have ever heard. I coud listen to anything being narrated with your voice.

This channels needs to be a podcast format too!! Its great!!!!

Melkor's voice can be heard often. Everyting Tolkien wrote, is true, and myth at the same time. Would your u want things to to different?

After Númenor sank, Sauron's ëala carried the One Ring all the way back to Barad-dür. At least, that is what Tolkien said happened.🙄

One question that I still have, is how the ring got to Barad Dur after the fall of Numenor. Sauron's bodily form was destroyed, it was his spirit that escaped. Did that carry the ring?

How lucky that Mt Doom didn't become dormant in the third age! ;)

His dark spirit still persists to this day. His cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate permeates our world. The earth will disgorge the ring someday and the black nimbus will stretch forth again

When the Ring, Sauron's horcrux, is destroyed, it should weaken him enough that he could be taken care of permanently.

There’s one way to defeat Melkor with a single utterance. Speak this secret word and he shall be utterly defeated: *_Smellkor_*

It's worth noting that there's a Battle of Armageddon analogue that's prophesied in the Silmarillion. In "Dagor Dagorath" Morgoth is able to escape from the Void and wreaks havoc before making one last stand against the Valar. It's unclear whether Sauron is able to rejoin his old master for this final battle, but it certainly can't be ruled out.

I’ve always felt like death isn’t a punishment if anything it can be a way to escape consequences. I like the idea that evil dies in every way that matters but is still alive enough to know it.

I think a good author could write a follow up with Sauron as the protagonist seeking redemption.

Great job as always! The narrator has a wonderful voice.

Very well done!

He’s now Sauroff

These are really, really spectacular. I hope you cover every single topic forwards and backwards

@Enerdhil

22 күн бұрын

It covers most of the important things you need to know in order to answer the question in the title.

@cmoneill

22 күн бұрын

@@Enerdhil what?

@Enerdhil

22 күн бұрын

@@cmoneill I assumed you had just started watching the video and wanted to reassure you that "every single topic forwards and backwards" was covered.

@cmoneill

22 күн бұрын

@@Enerdhil ah, thank you. No, I meant that I wish for him to continue covering all of the topics related to middle earth in future videos

If only a movie could be forged that truly encompassed the essence of Sauron. What a grip upon our mortal realm it would hold.

Fantastic story telling and summary of Sauron. I feel like i just lived his life

Tiny fanfiction idea(not saying it's good): Years later in the middle earth world, in a modern setting, a mining company is searching for a a precsicousss metal known as... sauronium... it has strange properties... cold in fire, giving strange sensations to who ever touches it or even being near it. There's a problem, it's extremly rare, the mining company is known as Blackrock, it has a monolpoly in extracting it, considering how rare it is, it's as if they are being guided by some evil spirit. So using modern technology the smal metal bits from the one ring that melted are being refound and refined, but why?

He is waiting on Peter Jackson to make LOTR 4

@benjaminharris7091

15 күн бұрын

I wonder if he has an agent? I’m currently looking for new clients. Have him call me!

Excellent analysis!