Clay Davis is Namond from a different universe in the multiverse. He changed his name after he shifted dimensions.

My favorite season by far is two. Sure a lot of fans didn’t care for it. But season four and through five as well, the storyline of that group of boys is what made the show so great. Possibly the greatest tv show of all time. I’ve never seen anyone with a theory of Naimond Brice becoming the next Clay Davis. It’s brilliant! Great work man.

@sidd_not_vicious2609

Ай бұрын

same here. season two was such a good season and it gets overlooked . it is great

One thing that a lot of people I believe missed, it is the fact that Bunny called him Eddie Haskell, I think, bunny, even realized that Namond was going to grow up, and even on the right path was going to keep that slick tongue

Namond is also shown cheating in order to win the puzzle building competition in S4, by hiding unused pieces in order to declare his team the winner. Namond is willing to do anything to win, including deception. I'm very active on The Wire subreddit and I'm a major proponent of the Namond is Clay theory. Glad to see a lot of my points made it into this video!

@JakeKoenig

Ай бұрын

Namond was way too lazy and stupid to be Clay Davis. Say what you want about Clay, but he was smart and hustled his ass off, albeit in a very crooked manner.

Season 4 is the best, just finished it. Those final episodes are devastating.

That’s interesting. I thought that as Michael was obviously the new Omar, Dukie the new Bubs, etc, Namond was the show acknowledging the exceptions: he seemed clearly poised to be the new D (kid thrust into street life by family ties but doomed because he didn’t have the heart for it) but was spared the cycle not by “just pulling himself up by his bootstraps” or government programs or academic solutions, but by having genuine parental figures who went all in on raising and guiding him. I’m not saying he’s not being poised to “be somebody” (although I’d think if anything he’d be the new Carcetti) but I didn’t think the show was indulging in its usual cynicism with Namond, instead bringing him forward as a bit of light in the darkness.

@ottav69

8 ай бұрын

Yeah that sounds much more uplifting...which means it was probably never the shows intention to make you think that.

@blazaybla22

8 ай бұрын

@@ottav69I completely disagree. The Wire wasn’t just nonstop bleakness - it allowed its characters and audience to take joy in small victories. Anything from Michael and Namond getting back at that corrupt cop to Cutty being able to open the gym and help so many young men to Cheese finally getting his at the end. The point is that these things don’t bring systemic change but by having character, courage and realistic goals, you as an individual can still make a difference, if only to one person or in a small way. Bunny had the ambition to completely upend how policing and drug dealing affected the Baltimore community with Hamsterdam, and he didn’t succeed at that but he did finally succeed at finding one young man with promise and guiding him to reach his potential. I personally think taking a cynical view towards Namond’s arc makes the show seem entirely nihilistic, which I don’t think it is, and to me it’s not much less one-dimensional than shows where every character gets a happy ending - in other words, in my mind, that blanket pessimism wouldn’t really be that much less simplistic than anything in more overly optimistic narratives, and I certainly think we can all agree that The Wire is not simplistic.

@rudy_4ier

8 ай бұрын

@@blazaybla22 yeah the whole "The Wire is about bleakness and nothing else" is a very childish adage often perpetuated by those who want to sound more mature and socially aware than they actually are. it completely misses the point of the breadth and authenticity of the series.

State Senator Namond Brice (D-MD)

I disagree. Most of the parallels are quite clear, whereas this one has only very circumstantial evidence. I think his story line very clearly is meant to illustrate that all of the children could've done great things if they were given the right opportunities and enviroment. I'd like to remain hopeful about this one. Naymond and Bubbles are simply the lucky ones, I think.

The idea of Namond becoming the next Clay Davis is plausible, but I think it's more likely that he'll grow up to be middle class and work for a firm - the street isn't in him, notwithstanding his roots. And Donut will likely become an entrepreneur, of sorts. ("Donut, drive me away from these ignorant bitches" - one of my favorite lines of the many, many great lines in the show).

At least as of the time I worked in the Baltimore foster care system, one well known statistic is that approximately 1 in 4 kids who grow up in this sort of environment “make it”, in terms of society’s standards of success. Another stat is that such kids have an exponentially greater chance if at least one stable adult - be it relative, friend, teacher, etc - takes an active nurturing interest in such a kid. This season had 4 main child characters, and 1 of them “made it out” of the streets. One of the countless examples of how The Wire writers knew what they were doing.

@TribalScan.

2 ай бұрын

1 in 4 does not always equate to every 4 there is 1. Not to mention, it's a stat that can be juked at anytime to please the masses. The Wire also showed that authorities are willing to juke stats when the suit fits

@JakeKoenig

Ай бұрын

Nobody made it out. Namond ended up like all the rest. He was dumb, lazy, and weak. No way in hell he became successful.

This makes me want to watch The Wire again. I've probably watched it 6 to 8 times and still know I'll enjoy another rewatch.

Bunny reached out for Namond. Carver tried with Randy, but the system fu¢ked that up. Daniels tried to reach out for the Kevin Johnson (hopper who lost an eye courtesy of Prez wailing on him).

@VanirTraditionalist

8 ай бұрын

Daniels also tried to help Wallace

@Tiabliaj1989

8 ай бұрын

Cutty reached out for Michael Lee, but Mike had been hurt and didn't trust that easy. Prez tried for Dukie but the school wouldn't let him (and likely his 3 gun-related incidents would prevent adoption).

@mingus445_gaming

3 ай бұрын

@@Tiabliaj1989 damn, I forgot he had 3... wth is wrong with bro

@Tiabliaj1989

3 ай бұрын

@@mingus445_gaming IIRC first one was the cry for help to get off the force, second was firing a shot into the floor of the unit building, third was shooting the undercover...could technically call it four if we include the kid he half-blinded with a pistol-whip. And the answer is he wasn't made to be a street cop he belonged behind a desk 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ But Valchek had higher ambitions for his son in law

@mingus445_gaming

3 ай бұрын

@@Tiabliaj1989 then maybe don't join the police force? stop showing up? don't join a junior paramilitary organization if you dont want to be in the field

I can definitely see it, I also always thought he could be bound for life as a Stringer, later Stringer as we see em, more educated and all that. But who knows.

7:33 Wow those two quotes! Had no idea.

Sheeeeeeeet. I definitely see it.

Some say the city of Baltimore is a character on the show, but the main theme seems to be how people dedicate their lives to making the world a better place, be it in the courts, police dept, docks, city hall, the press or the school system. And in each case those individuals who want to make a change, bring reform, have their goals eaten away till they too are just more cogs in the system. This cycle repeats endlessly. So no matter which direction Namond chooses, he will either wind up frustrated if he tries to become a reformer in his chosen field or successful if he uses his street smarts to play the system for himself.

This is an interesting theory. I tend to think that the show had a throughline that the game is the game; that is that there are always roles to fill and they will always be filled. You can play or you can get played. There are several times when characters even reference how they feel that the game is played. So ultimately while the show certainly depicts some characters heading down some paths, I think it is important to realize that the show doesn't seem to have the concept of a destiny for them. Just that people sort of get shoehorned in by process and/or circumstance. What they do with it is what makes them good, or bad. Sometimes the same character goes from one end to the other and maybe back again. Look at Carcetti or Daniels as examples of characters who at times have been on either side of breaking out and refusing to play; often to their detrement.

The only confirmed characters fufilling the roles of previous characters Are Michael=Omar and dukie=Bubbles Randy's path is ambiguous some believe he could be the new bodie,Prop joe,or Marlo? Namond's path hints at politics(Clay,Royce,Carcetti) but could also branch out to education like Colvin his adopted father/Mentor

@t.a6159

8 ай бұрын

randy= prop joe

@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942

8 ай бұрын

There’s also the fact that Randy has the same last name as cheese so if he is related to them then he’d be prop joes only relative and would inherit his home and businesses

@flex2timez

8 ай бұрын

@@t.a6159naw Randy is goin to Marlo…. What happen to him is goin to make him violet and fighting to clear his name

@Pantsinabucket

8 ай бұрын

@@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942randy’s probably only inheriting Cheese’s property at best (and that’s if it isn’t all stolen by the time he finds out about it). Meanwhile Prop Joe definitely has a sibling that is probably alive (considering cheese is his nephew and fairly young), making them his direct heir if Joe has no kids of his own.

@monadreher2428

8 ай бұрын

Namond is definitely not going to become the next Clay Davis. The point of the shared dialogue between him and Clay Davis is just to illustrate how a high ranking political figure like Davis has the same mind set as a fourteen year old drug dealer. It's a parallel that's all. The series does this with multiple characters. Bodie and McNulty have one as do Stringer and Colvin. Randy is definitely going to become an enforcer somewhere down the line. Kenard I would say is definitely the next possible Marlo. They are both psychopaths and have no problem backstabbing those close to them if they feel like they can do so.

Although I didn't like the namond character. I was glad he got out of that life and got a good ending. He was lucky he met someone who cared about him and brought him in. Sometimes in life all you need is a good role model, the rest will fall in place (I can confirm that from personal experience). Bless you all, have a good day reader.

Love this. Never made the connection but it makes alot of sense

Man that was a bar, failing upwards. Great channel.

Your analysis are always great 👍

I think he's giving namond wayy too much credit. I think namond would end up either 1) a regular joe citizen 2) end up being a half in/half out of the game type charecter looking for easy money, only finding trouble

Clay Davis’s words to Avon are in Season 3 (Episode 5) not Season 1.

I think they both just say the same line in the same episodes to mirror dialogue like they always do

Oh my that is dark. Love it!

Id love a video about Herc.

My guess is Namond would go to college and have a good paying career, but that could be anything. He might want to be an architect.

Maybe not Namond being Davis so much, but I really love the idea of him hiring Donut later on as his driver, if the city hasn't revoked his license by then.

This was good! his earing is a police badge isn't it?

While Clay is possible, I think he would be a better version of Clay. Bunk or maybe LT. Daniels are also possible. Or better yet he might be be involved in the school system working in programs like the one Bunny was in that saved him.

@flyingdutchman2442

Ай бұрын

Why not Royce or Carcetti?

Love this. I thought the same thing

I hope he becomes the man he wants to be. Sky's the limit with the proper EDUCATION!

One of the most interesting developments in the whole show was Royce actually exploring the Hamsterdam model as a solution to the drug problem. That model has seen some success in European countries at least in terms of overall societal harm reduction. It can never work here in America because it's just not hypocritical enough. We love us some hypocrisy here in America.

Isn't it also possible he ends up as Bunk given that Michael gave him a similar 'go home school boy' treatment the tough guys gave him and that he ends up with Colvin?

Loved how Wee Bay checked the hell out of Namonds mother......made my day

Dukie is a prime examples of what good nature gets you in society

9:50 Cleans his whole ack up?? Then it's settled, Namond becomes the next Shorty Boyd

@PriCEGotBeats

8 ай бұрын

Words from Slim Charles to Cutty, i believe. Wait i think it was Avon, gotta rewatch.

@alpsarilar5717

8 ай бұрын

@@PriCEGotBeats lol yep, Avon. That Eggy Mule scene is classic 😆

Shiiit, "do what you feel" is copy an paste phrase from the street. "I'll take anybody's money if dey givin it away" speaks to mentality. They said it the exact same way in two completely different forums.

He told me that because he wouldn't cut his hair/ pony tail, they ruined his character. But I believe he would of done great after the show, possibly politics

That quote that Namond and Clay said made me agree more with your theory, when I initially disagreed.

I see Namond 'getting out' like Poot or a little better socioeconomically. But he's too passive and afraid to become a Clay Davis. If he can't run a street corner drug operation he's not going to be able to manage a state-wide political campaign. And while he does have passionate interests like the puzzle challenge or debating, that does not put him on a track to knuckle down and do four years of college as a start to a traditional career. He doesn't need to go full college boy, but at the end of the show he knows nothing about politics, law, and community organizing and you don't just pick that up sitting around playing video games (which we know he likes).

Have to go back now🤔 been quite awhile since seeing those kids…. 😉

Although interesting I don't really buy into this theory. If Bunny Colvin is your foster father I'd like to think that he'd drill integrity into your core being

Kennard is the next Weebey or Chris Partlow or the cowardly crooked cop. I'd like to see a video on Kennard. Naymond isn't built for the streets like a gangster or a cop, but is is built to play in them, like Clay Davis. Naymond is a loud mouth & a peacock, the perfect street politician or pimp (most pimps aren't violent or built to be gangsters & they'd be awesome politicians).

@CounterCultureCantCount

Ай бұрын

Kennard is Bird.

Hell I'll take anybody's money if they're given it away - namond brice and clay davis

What if Namond ended up becoming like Carver or Bunk?

Namond is definitely the next Clay David. The parallel is clear.

I thought about Nay becoming Bunk too

Namonds the next poot working footlocker

He could also become a Royce/Carcetti

Nah, Clay Davis is a reach. Writers don’t do things like this by accident. Namond is re-living Bunk’s life story INTENTIONALLY. It is far more likely that, with the introduction of Namond, they wanted viewers to see how the circumstances of Street life can have multiple outcomes for those who don’t wish to be a direct part of “the game”. Clay and Bunk are both examples of this, but this is BUNK’s origin story, make no mistake.

@JakeKoenig

Ай бұрын

Bunk's IQ is about 50 points higher than Namond's. So no, Namond was never going to be Bunk. You have to be somewhat intelligent AND have a strong work ethic to be a murder police. Namond's genetics swung and missed on both.

I figured Royce or any politician

Daniels and Slim Charles both end the show as their own bosses, from underlings.

This video made me sad, because I thought that this kid had a happy ending.

Namond becomes Mikes clean bank. So Bug can get money in the future.

Namond is Clay. Michael is Omar. Bodie is D'Angelo. Dukie is Bubbles.

@rupertsmith5815

Ай бұрын

I honestly doubt he would become clay He might get into politics but I don’t see him becoming the slimy clay . Because unlike Davis he is a good guy that cares about others he just acted tuff and with Colvin raising him I don’t see it .

This is VERY incisive Ranter; I can see Namond's moral weakness leaving him open to corruption.

Do videos on madmen

I love Clay Davis. You have to afford at least a grudging respect to someone who's unapologetic about who they are, even when that person is a World-class scumbag.

What if the police in the wire were hunting the soprano crew ……. Show would have been one episode…… Consider making a video about the difference between police / fbi in the two shows…..😂

i would like to think he became a much better person than that.

Bro the subreddit gonna downvote you into oblivion they hate this theory LMAO

sheeeeeeeeeeeit

SHOCKING Hidden Plot Twist🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think im gonna shit in my pants🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’m thinking McNulty.

Will watch in a bit. That's one part of The Wire or maybe Wire Fandom that I'm not a fan of, which is the idea that such and such is just another version of this other guy or thing. I don't think that's often the case in reality. Things are unique, people are individuals. Times change.

@armyofninjas9055

8 ай бұрын

The game doesn't change. It just gets more fierce. ;)

@benjaminholm2311

8 ай бұрын

@armyofninjas9055 LOL but it does. The getting more fierce is change.

@SupportGamin2024

8 ай бұрын

The point of the show is that the younger generation becomes what the previous generation was but worse Michael=Omar(Stick up kid) Duke=Bubbles(dope fiend) You might not like it but that's CLEARLY what the show intended.

@benjaminholm2311

8 ай бұрын

@SupportGaming2023 Yeah I just disagree with it. Or at least think it gets overdone.

@monadreher2428

8 ай бұрын

​@@benjaminholm2311I mean it's another aspect of reality that the show puts on display. A person can get clean and change their life around but unfortunately there will *always* be another addict. I don't think *every* character falls into this pattern (I personally think Namond is going to be a regular degular, maybe a public speaker or something like that but definitely not the next Clay Davis) but the pattern definitely does exist. People change within "the game", not the roles. The roles will always exist just like "the game" itself.

namond prob became a police, or a lawyer.

You can’t compare Namond to Clay Davis because Davis was no dove. Everything about Namond just screamed weakness. His apex is supposedly when he is giving a speech on AIDS in Africa, now there are plenty of iniquities befalling Africans from starvation to drug cartels to lack of water and energy, racism and overall medical care and to fixate on AIDS well I don’t know. Now remember that Bunny told him that if Namond mentioned the name Bunny to anyone that he would have his balls removed well just look at Namond’s expression in that last scene with his car stealing friend. If Namond was going to be a character on the show then the best case scenario and I’m reaching here would be another Mcnulty. They both have kinky hair with negligible Irish Ancestry. He probably ends up being a graphic artist or a child psychologist.

i wish i could be a cop

Why wouldn't namond become the next colvin?

Didnt really feel sorry for Namond especially the way he treated Dukie. Glad Michael slapped him out at the gym because Namond needed to be humbled.

Would love to see Naet turn into a future Bunk

Shiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeet.

This is one of the few times I'm going to disagree with you. I do not see the Clay Davis theory coming to fruition. Bunk possibly. But even with the pessimism of The Wire, Namond gets free of Baltimore altogether in my mind.

I’m came to this conclusion on my own before watching this video which is not the case with most of your vids but.. HEAR ME OUT, Randy is the next Marlo. No family, no friends, scar on his face, labeled a snitch so now he stops at nothing to build his street reputation to show that he’s no punk, grows up cold with no heart, and take his previous entrepreneurial passion into the drug game. Murder will come easy to him the same way as it was with Marlo. It’s all there!

I don’t think he’s ruthless enough to be Clay Davies. He was mean at times, but Clay wouldn’t care about a child getting beaten like Namond did. I agree he could be like Bunk I wouldn’t say he had it easier than the others in the beginning. Randy at least had a foster mother who was a good person and was raising him well. Something Namond definitely didn’t have, but he at had the happiest ending of the 4. (Side note, Weebay feeling proud when Bunny tells him that Namond has the potential to be something in life is one of my favourite scenes in The Wire)

Namond most likely ended up in prison, homeless, or dead, just like the majority of his demographic in Baltimore. He obviously didn't have a very high IQ, and he was lazy in almost every scene. So that's a bad combo. He also avoided responsibility whenever possible, and his moral compass was completely broken. So yeah, his future was bleak.

@rupertsmith5815

Ай бұрын

What ? No dude Calvin took him in and he was doing great in his academic studies. Why would he suddenly end up dead or in prison When he left the life behind ?

We no longer build things in this country. Inc kids