What do you think George shared with Gilroy??

@Leftyotism

Жыл бұрын

Spit.

@bonusxp1076

Жыл бұрын

@@Leftyotism I wish I was him.

@Katesloveslave

Жыл бұрын

Probably something like "beware Kennedy. She has fallen to the dark side"

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

@@Leftyotism wow full of insight you are

@Leftyotism

Жыл бұрын

@@bonusxp1076 I know right!

Rogue one reminded us that THERE WAS AN ACTUAL WAR GOING ON.

My entire perception of the Vader/hallway scene from Rogue One changed completely when I realized the Door didn't get stuck when they tried to open it; Vader was holding it with the Force.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Hadn’t thought of that! Yea that’s awesome.

@ericfaz1427

Жыл бұрын

Did he? Or it did jam and he had to "Force" it open.

@pepperVenge

Жыл бұрын

@@ericfaz1427 It's more likely that Vader held it in place. Doors are designed to open. The chances that it just so happened to get stuck at the very moment they were trying to escape are negligible. It's more likely Vader held it in place.

@themadladorian4364

Жыл бұрын

He would've closed it fully then.

@pepperVenge

Жыл бұрын

@@themadladorian4364 Maybe, but I don't believe so. If the intent was to stop the rebels from leaving the room, then the door stopping where it was achieved that.

Rouge one was definitely the best Disney owned era Star Wars movie..The characters were interesting and real..And the story was mature and original..Unlike the sequel trilogy.

@ainzer2903

Жыл бұрын

Remember, TFA released first before Rogue Obet

@tobylerone4285

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t find the characters interesting tbh but that last act is some of the greatest Star Wars ever produced

Yeah it was the one movie i liked from the Disney stuff. Kind of a miracle that director managed to avoid Disney ruining it.

@razorpit

Жыл бұрын

Well, he did lose his job over it. 😂

@Lennis01

Жыл бұрын

I think Rogue One was already in the pipe before Disney took full creative control at Lucasfilm.

@adamduffield7782

5 ай бұрын

Think it was because Kathleen Kennedy was too busy with the sequel trilogy as they were ment to be the main story, Rogue one is just filler

@SnowCount

5 ай бұрын

@@razorpitare you trying to make a joke here?

@razorpit

5 ай бұрын

@@SnowCount I did. Are you the type of person that needs a fart noise or laugh track to cue you when to laugh?

The storyline of ROGUE ONE was pitched to Lucas by John Knoll way back in 2006, so Lucas was already familiar with the premise long before the Disney sale.

The "crawl" at the beginning of the 1977 film, tells us that "It is a period of civil war." It describes the stolen Death Star Plans and how the princess is racing home with them. Rogue One is that story. The "crawl" (above) is the summary of Rogue One. They got incredible and seamless continuity with that strategy. And yes, Rogue One is what filled the Rebellion with the "hope" they needed for SW: A New Hope.

Rogue is my second fav after Empire. A great film that shows how desperate and conflicted the members of the Rebellion are and the value of hope and sacrifice for the greater good.

@r3gret2079

Жыл бұрын

My second fav too. That film is just amazing. One of the most important, if not thee most important event for the rebellion. If they had not gotten those plans, the rebellion would 100% be lost. Plus a whole film with no jedi, sith or lightsabers until the very end is just a treat. It expands the universe so well. And the last act, oh shit the ending. Vader's hallway scene is cinematic gold, but how everyone has a big job to do, they all do it and everything works out perfectly for the rebellion at large, but every single one of our beloved heroes perish. My god such an amazing film!

@kyler980k

Жыл бұрын

I agree empire is the best rogue is 2nd

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

@@r3gret2079 what did you think of Andor?

@r3gret2079

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom oh boy oh booyyyyyyy I loved Andor like it was my child. Cassian was such an interesting character in Rogue One, so the fact that we get to see his backstory is just pie, I love it. The growth even in just s1 of Andor was huge. From a shitty dude who has no qualms with killin people, and who only looks out for himself, to going to prison and learning to work with others and FOR other's benefit. Then to the outs where he realizes this is all bigger than himself, and never will he be happy and safe unless he helps in any way to bring safety and order to wherever he can. Ngl, that whole part in the city, with the big hologram speech, that shit hit me in the feels so damn hard, I was even tearin up at how fuckin amazing that whole scene was.

@r3gret2079

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom plus the show really helps expand the galaxy. These are the huge stories goin on in the background that we never see, until Rogue and Andor, even Mando. A whole series with not a jedi, sith or lightsaber anywhere is a fuckin treat.

I loved Rogue One! To me it's the best Star Wars movie. My only gripe is that the trailer had Jyn atop the Scarif tower on a gantry...and up pops a Tie Fighter. It made the Tie look huge and menacing, but it was cut from the film. A New Hope, Empire And Jedi all have a special place in my heart. I was a little lad when my Mum took me and my brother to see it in 1977. My imagination exploded when the mile long Star Destroyer entered the screen with John William's sublime music.👍

@anthonyscheibmeir2444

Жыл бұрын

There reshot a ton of the ending and I read years ago that the whole scene involving that tie fighter wasn’t working on a technical Level but I don’t know

@HansLemurson

10 ай бұрын

Andor at least got to show us the fear and menace of even individual TIE fighters.

First, for a longtime, there was the famed three Musketeers, legendary swordsmen, well renowned. But then there was a new person who would become the fourth Musketeer, d'Artagnan. Rogue One is D'Artagnan. No longer a trilogy, for me, it is now a quadrilogy. Rogue One is phenomenal. Andor season 1 is phenomenal as well.

Gareth Edwards conceived of and directed Rogue One. He created a gritty war film version. Disney got cold feet and bought in Gilroy to do reshoots. I'm not saying Gilroy did a bad job, because he didn't, but Gareth Edwards doesn't get enough credit.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

True. Would love to see what it would have been before Gilroy

Not just the vader scene but i got CHILLS when i heard(and then saw) "This is gold leader" and seeing what happened to Red 5 to allow Luke to give that call sign in ANH. Rogue One is what gives me hope that Star Wars Outlaws some hope.

@andrewshaughnessy5828

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it explains why Luke has such a low number despite being a late addition to the squadron. It was also nice to see Gold squadron playing such a crucial role by crippling the ISD.

I’ve said a million times, now Gilroy needs to make another standalone between Empire and RotJ based on the line: “Many Bothans died bringing us this information”. So that story can be filled in. Would be so freaking cool. …I know there are supposedly two different versions between Legends and Canon and in one version [SPOILER>>>>], …I decided to delete the details because it’s not important :) The story would still be amazing to see on screen, which version they go with.

@lucabestea6844

Жыл бұрын

That gap was already filled with the Star Wars comics.

If I had to guess those other comments would be about using Tarkin. Disney was probably really pushing for using that technology and getting people more comfortable with seeing it on screen for the Mando show season 2 Luke stuff. If you think about it, having Tarkin just be a presence off screen kinda like a boss everybody is worried about disappointing wouldn't have drastically changed the film. Since George was on set with the actor back in 1977 he might not have felt great about seeing him used in a Star Wars film posthumously. Just my 2 cents

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great thought, hadn’t considered that.

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

Жыл бұрын

it actually probably was very uncanny considering rogue one tarken almost looks like a demonic version of peter cushing

I was fortunate enough to watch the original Star Wars as a kid on its opening day back in 1977. Besides ESB, Rogue One is the only movie that has really captured the feelings of awe and excitement I had when I was young. ROTJ the was fine, but the Ewoks and puppeteering in Jabba's den were kind of silly at that point and a pretty obvious marketing ploy for merchandise. ANH, ESB, and Rogue One simply told a story with a great mixture of tension, drama, challenges, and sprinkles of humor. Visually, Rogue One also captured the aesthetics of the original films and improved them with gorgeous CGI during the space battles; unlike the prequels, which were just an orgy of CGI effects. The only complaint I can imagine Lucas had about Rogue One was them killing off the entire cast, considering how much the final trilogy liked throwing in easter eggs ad nauseum.

@harrambou9468

Жыл бұрын

The prequel trilogy may have overused its CGI but it still looks great for the most part

@julianmonroe8740

Жыл бұрын

What was your opinion on Andor?

@ed209inCA

Жыл бұрын

@@julianmonroe8740 I really wanted to like it and thought it had tons of potential, but the pacing was just too slow. It fit the Rogue One look and did have some great characters to work with. Plus, it was well done in a lot of aspects. In the end, though, it didn't knock it out of the park the way I was hoping it would. Still worth watching, and definitely miles ahead of garbage like Obi-Wan and Book of Boba Fett. I'm hoping the 2nd season picks up the pace and brings out more action sequences. The TIE Fighter visuals were epic, so I hope they include more space battles as well.

@julianmonroe8740

Жыл бұрын

@@ed209inCA You're right, the pacing was pretty slow so it definitely could use more action, but I think the prison episodes were just absolutely amazing and how they painted the picture of Mon Mothma and the secretive beginnings of the Rebels was really good

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

@@julianmonroe8740 great question

Rogue One and Andor are a seamless transition to the original three films.. the sequels don’t really exude a common theme from the original series and even go as far as to contradict each other in my opinion. I’ve only watched the sequels once each and there is a reason for that. Whereas I love the animated series as well as Rogue One / Andor.

What made it so good was the fact it was a tragedy yet the Rebellion got the plans Ended in a balance. Dark and Light.

The only thing I have against rouge 1 is that it makes Vader and Leia’s conversation in the first scene of Star Wars seem silly. She is denying being part of the rebellion and Vader is arguing with her as if he didn’t just fight in entire hallway full of people on her ship and she is saying “nope, that wasn’t me”

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Yea I get that. But I can look past it because of how good the rest was

@jimmypeach8838

Жыл бұрын

You're right... but still worth putting in that scene even if doesn't match up perfectly cause was written many years ago not thinking it would have to match up...

@MuddywatermultimediaGroup

8 ай бұрын

that argument with her and vader is hillarious to me now, but in my opinion Rogue One explains why he was so pissed off when he got board her ship.

Rogue One is actually my favorite movie of all time and it put a big fat smile on my face when i heard George himself loved it too!

@peterkrochmalni673

Жыл бұрын

Or did he?

@jerseyhellyeah8173

Жыл бұрын

@@peterkrochmalni673 why should he not.

@peterkrochmalni673

Жыл бұрын

@@jerseyhellyeah8173 do you honestly believe he would’ve allowed every single main character to die? After all, he vetoed the idea of killing off Han Solo.

@jerseyhellyeah8173

Жыл бұрын

@@peterkrochmalni673 No. But thats also not Lucas film. he watched it, he did not made it. The characters all die because they dont or wont apear in the next movies. And the next movie would be A New Hope wich is Georges original movie. Rouge One is a build up for A New Hope and the fact that he loved it, is literally perfect.

@peterkrochmalni673

Жыл бұрын

@@jerseyhellyeah8173 “because they don’t appear in the next movie” is literally bullshit.

I was one of the first 4000 people in 1977 to see the First. And then the next two,right there on opening night. Rouge one was by far the best ground pounding beach warfare scifi film I've seen. Everything there was as brutally real and honest as that kind of fight would be. Far as I'm concerned,the original three and Rouge 1 stand together as the foundation of all of it. And I love all the other films as well,but if any of you out there,were there in 77,you know... It was so in the face surprise,and a magical times,to witness it blow up the world in wonder. And what I love the most....where the generation coming up now has taken the love. What you're going to get to experience I just hope I get to see it with you all. I hope it's the last thing I see,lol...cause I'm taking it all with me,ha!!!

@xansolskjr8628

Жыл бұрын

Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.

Rogue 1 was more of an origional than the last crappy incomplete of DISNEY starwars stories.

It amuses me that since Rogue One came out with the Vader fest at the end of it, how much that conflicts with his lightsabre fight in Star Wars with Obi-Wan, and their slow movement was described as "well, they are old Jedi". Something like it was retconed with Vader for their fights as Vader was very wary, that Obi Wan is the man who cut his legs off and he wasn't taking any chances...

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

I think this was inevitable… every depiction of Vader in comics, novels and all of the lore, make the fight scene against Obi Wan seem slow. I concede that it breaks continuity, but in this case it is needed. Even compare it to the later fights in Empire and ROTJ

@TheGamerZapocalypse

Жыл бұрын

It's more than that...They had not seen each other for a very long time, and they used to be friends and Master/Apprentice. It was a reluctant fight. The subtleties of the entire scene, underlying gravitas and the pacing is what make it such a fantastic scene. Sadly, it's the very thing that also cannot be noticed by many today and viewed instead only as "dated" and "typical of the time it was made" in their ignorance.

Perhaps George Lucas said that there are storytelling advantages of making background stories for Rogue One characters in a tv show! And that is how Andor idea came to be in the very beginning

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Great thought.

Rogue One was like Saving Private Ryan meets the best Star Wars scenes of IV, V & VI. When they said, "Raise the bar", it went high.👍

I really appreciate Rogue One and the atmosphere surrounding it. The only problem I have with the story, as a Star Wars fan from early 1978 when I was about 7 years old, is that over the decades I never really imagined how the first Death Star plans were acquired. In my opinion Rogue One and Andor succeed because they are original stories, told without politics and personal agendas at the forefront. The Empire is clearly portrayed as being the military machine that it is and not being prepared for a small yet capable Rebellion. I wonder if George might of had some issues with the portrayal of Darth Vader in the corridor. He also might not have agreed with showing Jyn and Cassian on the shore as the blast grows in size. I think that the portrayal of Darth Vader in his castle makes Darth Vader look like he's just doing a lot of standing around (And I understand the scene, but I'm not going to get into that here), that Darth Vader scene in the castle really kind of seems thrown in more for effect than it is part of the story.

You should do these videos too: 1. What if George Lucas never sold Star Wars? 2. What if the so called 'fans' never told Lucas that he did a terrible job on the Prequels? 3. What if Lucas believed that it was the story, not just the special effects, that sold Star Wars? 4. What if Lucas had decided to film the Prequels around 1987 to 1993? 5. What if Lucas hadn't changed his story for the Prequels to include Qui-Gon Jin, Jar Jar Binks and mediclorians? 6. What if Darth Vader wasn't Anakin Skywalker? 7. What if Luke and Leia weren't brother and sister? 8. By doing the Prequels earlier, what if Lucas had decided to film Episodes 7-9 between 1997 to 2003? 9. And by doing /\ that /\, what if Lucas had decided to use 'Heir To The Empire' as the storyline for Episodes 7-9? Imagine having Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher reprise their roles in 1997? 10. What if everyone stops blaming Disney for doing what 'any' production/film company would have done had 'they' bought the rights to Star Wars? The bottom line is simple: if you can raise the money, then do a 'reboot' of the entire Star Wars universe story (and therefore eliminate ALL of the plot holes), then may I suggest that you move on and just don't watch the films produced through Disney.

what an underrated channel. you deserve a lot more subs!

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I appreciate the kind words.

That ending scene is the best indeed!

Love this channel!!

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much…. A lot more on the way, just getting started.

Rogue One and Andor are the only good things in StarWars right now, nothing more to say here. I hope this awesome writer, well, writes more and more and more for StarWars, Tony Gilroy rules.

I really liked Rogue One, one of my favourites

I would think Lucas shared how he envisioned the plot of rogue one to be, and how it differed from Gilroy’s.

Without doubt Rogue 1 was the best starwars to date. I don't really catch feeling watching movies yet Rogue 1 is the only movie ever to force a lump in my throat and have to fight myself from letting a tear spill out of my eye as I watched Jynn and casian await their fate in their final scene. The only 1 where every hero dies and the darkness of it all was so gritty. I must of watched it 20 times. I'm so glad to hear George loved it. What saddens me is I don't think you can surpass Rogue 1. Watching it gave me a sense of this is the end. Sure Andor was great mandalorion was great han solo was useless. What has impressed me are some of these starwars gameplay scenes on KZread lately the cut scenes are incredible as good as some movie scenes. Jynn ersos character was one of my favourite female characters compared to the cheese Other female characters. Long live lucas films

what's cool about the hallway scene in Rogue One is I could see that having been made by George if he never sold.

Only issue with Rogue One was the end with beach scene with palm trees felt strange like star wars at a resort and off lol... change that look and all good

Rogue One is the only Disney Star Wars film I've seen more than twice. The best SW they've made. Nothing else can match it. So far I've only watched just over half of Andor season 1, I like it. Might have a slow pace but i think it works. I'm happy to hear that George loved Rogue One.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Yes keep watching Andor, the pace is slower but I think that it is fantastic.

I’m thinking that Lucas probably share the same thoughts that I had I both love and hate well I wouldn’t say hate. Rogue one I know the point sells it well that not everybody always survives and that’s what makes it such a realistic movie. However, it would’ve been nice if one of the main characters were able to make it off the planet, so there would’ve been a bit of continuation or someone to tell a story or history, or with some experience.

If George Lucas buys Star Wars back, I hope he hires Tony Gilroy in the future.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

I really don’t think that will happen. Disney won’t sell, even if they are losing money, pride won’t let them.

@seanmolloy4123

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom”Twice the pride. Double The Fall” -Count Dooku

@ethenallen1388

4 ай бұрын

I really don't think that Star Wars has a future.

@magical_pixie_horse7346

4 ай бұрын

@@ethenallen1388 At this point, you might be right.😮‍💨

I think what George had other things to talk about, was how it started to go away from the lightsabers and Jedi, the whole the main part of Star Wars and some it’s themes. I mean Rogué One was rhe closest to the original type of Star Wars but there was some moments that wasn’t like the usual. These scenes are very prevalent in Andor, as it goes fully through with more adult, darker stuff.

George should have never ever never sold out. Never.

Lucas probably wasn't 100% happy with how Disney pushed to use the CGI tech to get people used to it, between Tarkin & Leia, it wasn't there just yet although seeing Leia def drove home where the movie was ending & just how close they came to certain peril. The fact that just months right after the movie was released we had really good deep fakes that looked even better made by kids.... Disney could of taken more time to develop the tech before utilizing it. However we know KK was pushing for all these back to back releases at that time.

I was 11 when I first saw Star Wars, right in the pocket...Rogue One is the only one that captures the sense of what Star Wars was for me then...

I will die on this hill - The original 6 movies are better than any other show or movie released afterwards. Episode III is my second favorite Star Wars movie. Anyone who thinks the prequels were bad is overshadowing the entire sequel trilogy with the tiny clips of JarJar that exist. He did not have much screen time across all 3 movies and he was basically non existant in the third. Also Boga was pretty cool.

1:27 YES! So have I! I and George Lucas have the same taste! Or, in better wording, I LOVE George's ideas on the *ORIGINAL Star Wars Series! A fan! And Rogue One feels like it's part of it, especially near the ending!! (Wow! Darth Vader, so FIERCE!!!)

Rogue One... the last really good SW-movie... Love it...

Loved Rogue One...as for Andor, that show is TOP TIER television in ANY genre. When you can deliver action through dialogue alone, then you know you are wztching rarified air of television. Let's not forget the casting...this first year of Andor was precision crafted and it fired on all cylinders. When a show engrosses you to rewatch it and you are still finding gems on every rewatch, then you know its beyond special. When a show makes you watch hours and hours of KZread content just to see the reaction of others, you darned well know this is top tier. I haven't spent this much time on the internet gobbling up stuff on a film or series since The Matrix.

@RictusHolloweye

Жыл бұрын

A few times I've looked up Stellan Skarsgard's "What is my sacrifice?!" speech on youtube. I just can't get tired of it.

@redwoodtrees7068

9 ай бұрын

Andor 9/10 - rogue one , 6,6.5 /10 ( super overrated) edit : jsut before people lose their minds - 6/10 is still good. it's just not very good or great.

Yep... not a surprise at all. Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie to come out during my lifetime. Gareth Edwards has an upcoming film which I'm going to check out.

Lets be real here Lucas probably hated the kiss scene on the beach, too much sand.

I LOVE "ROGUE ONE". I LOVE the radio dramatization as well but I separate them as two different versions, given that certain details differ.

Rogue One and A New Hope watched back to back as a pair of movies is unequalled in cinema.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

There are some bulbs in the road but overall great.

I love Rogue One, my only criticism is that we didn't see any of the many Bothans who allegedly died to secure the plans.

I had temporarily written Star Wars off bcz of the 8 and 9 sequels, boycotted Solo story bcz of it, which is a film I now quite enjoy. I tried again with Rogue One in theaters, and left the theater in awe, excitement, sadness, wonder, still thinking about what I experienced.

I like Rogue 1, and Andor. World and Character building is incredible.

andor gets really going after ep4， can't wait for a season 2

The thing with Roque One was simple. It fit.😊

Lucas portrayed Vadar as someone feared in the Galaxy. This one scene set that tone. After this, EVERYONE knew why people were terrified of Lord Vadar. Fantastic scene. 🍻

I love Rogue One. Actually own it!

R1 was the first movie since Empire that made me “feel” like I was watching a Star Wars movie. I saw SW in ‘77 as a 9 year old. Saw Empire 3 years later. Something, the force maybe, kept me away from theatrical showings of any SW movies until R1. For myself, these 3 are the only movies that are actually good. There are elements of the prequels to like, more to not and nothing at all to appreciate regarding the sequels. I stopped episode 8 at the midway point and quit on episode 9 after seeing the trailer.

Out of all the SW movies and tv shows made by Disney, Rogue One is the only one that feels like it was made by George himself, also i like that the movie feels like it took inspiration from The Force Unleashed games

Been a Star Wars fan for over 40 years. I hated Rogue One and Andor. But I really liked Solo and the Ben Kenobi series. But I always liked things others are not fans of or don't necessarily know, like Kevin Smith movies, the original 1974 Gone in 60 Seconds, The Car, The Wraith, Corvette Summer, The Blair Witch. Underdogs have been my favorites.

R1 is probably the only Disney Star Wars film I consider canon, though I still prefer the EU. Also it does make in Ep4 when Leia claims she was on a diplomatic mission to Vader funny. It's like, Vader knows you're lying because he watched your ship and crew flee the crime scene.

Rogue One is what every disney Star Wars could have been, but wasn't.

Gilroy probably would have been better placed for helming the whole Star Wars Lucas Film venture than Kennedy.

Rogue one was great. Andor is the best of all the Star Wars shows. Love Mandalorian season one and two, especially.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly my feeling as well.

What happened to the Bothen spies?

@bradevans7935

Жыл бұрын

The 'Many Bothans died...' quote was from "Return of the Jedi" - it relates to the plans for the second Death Star and it's location above Endor. I'd suggest that Disney needs to make a "Rogue Two" (for lack of a better working title) to settle the question. We might even learn what the Bothans are, since they haven't appeared in the current canon.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Maybe some of andor season two can lay the foundation for that.

"Rogue" was a beautiful film: the set pieces, the tone, the story, and the fact that it led into just mere minutes prior the events of "A New Hope". Honestly, the ONLY 2 films I even acknowledge to this day are "Rogue" and "Empire".

Rogue one is the best SW for maturity, darkness and with depth.

Maybe how the ending does not fit the beginning of A New Hope

I really would have liked it if they would have kept the original concept for Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus. Keep the actors for the voice, but use the aliens for the scenes. Other than that all good.

Star Wars should have concluded with George Lucas' Revenge of the Sith. It was fun-- in the moment--to see if Disney could sucessfully add to Lucas' story; but what we got is just...weird? It looks like SW, sounds like SW, but overall is much weaker. Timothy Zahn was much more sucessful in the 90's with his additions.

Rogue One is probably the best Thing Disney has done with Star Wars.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

I might argue for Andor, but 1a & 1b

You can tell this channel has a lot of Rogue One fans, because they're all spelling it correctly in the comments.

I loved Rogue One. It is the only film so far that does not openly violate the events of the original trilogy or makes the original characters look bad. My own gripes with it are the following: 1. It contradicts the Radio Drama - considered one of the tiers of canon up until Disney came along - with regards to how Princess Leia got access to the Death Star plans. 2. The scene at the end with Leia was too flat. Too sterile. Instead of answering the question "What does all this mean?" with just "hope", she should have said "A New Hope". or 'A New Hope for us". It would have cemented the connection with Episode 4 perfectly. 3. Leia should have been walking and running with the crew as she did in Empire Strikes Back, being active and issuing orders. More energy to highlight the moment!. "Captain Antilles! get us out of here! Set course for Tattooine, maximum speed, Hurry!". And that's it

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Dig this comment, right on.

Honestly the only thing that really made me like and gave action to the Rogue one was that darth vader hallway scene

ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT AND So did my 12 year old son

Even with my fellow SAG Mexican comrade leading the casting, Andor, Season 1 felt like a British melodrama. Virtually everyone was sporting English, Scottish and Irish accents, no matter what the status, plus all the highlands imagery. A tell-tale sign of where this show was shot. In classic SW, the Empire or Coruscant hierarchy sported the English accent and this made the class distinction clearer to us. Listen to Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando to get my meaning.

Rogue One is genius and the only thing Disney produced that felt like the OT 🔥

As if the guy who wrote Rogue One was gonna tell us if Lucas didn't like it... We'll probably never know what his real opinion is anyway because I'm guessing they included a clause in the sale forbidding Lucas from bad mouthing Disney.

Rogue One was the last Star Wars movie made.

The only sense I can make of why Rogue One is so well liked is because kinda sorta feels like ANH / the OT, being set in that period, but where our heroes come from darker or murkier backgrounds and who all die in the end. So I guess that's also where comparisons to Empire come from. But like with Andor I'm skeptical of the success. Like with Solo, that move mostly got reshot after Gareth Edwards was fired. We know Solo was also reshot & consequently lost money, but apparently Rogue One at least broke even, if not made a decent profit. Basically I think Rogue One is fine, but I wouldn't put it up to OT or PT level, let alone the best next to Empire or surpassing it. It's not a film i enjoy rewatching much or at all.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Fair. I haven’t rewatched it as much at the OT, but more than the PT

@justmike3018

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom Time, the Filoni shows, and the Disney trilogy have done a lot for the Prequels' perception. But FWIW I never hated Jar Jar or the in-universe politics the PT delve into.

Unless there is video recorded evidence of George Lucas saying he liked or what he liked about it and what he hated about it I am calling BS and won’t believe a word coming out of Tony Kilroy. I hated rogue one. I hate that it violates continuity with A New Hope because Darth Vader describes a totally different event on how Leia got the plans. And I hate that all of the characters died in the end because that gives me less insensitive to ever want to watch it ever again. There was no reason to have them ALL die it just comes off as convoluted. As you said Darth Vader’s scene was the only thing worth watching (however it does break continuity on how he acts in A New Hope, as good as the scene is it still violates continuity), without the Vader scene the movie would’ve surely bombed because the characters were not interesting enough to even carry the film. It was a mistake on Disney’s part to allow them to kill off the characters because now they can never profit off of these characters in toy sales. Nor can disney profit off of these characters with any sequels. Mismanagement. I found the movie terrible and an unworthy addition to Star Wars canon, and since it is a Disney Star Wars movie automatically makes it Not Canon to George Lucas’s Star Wars. We already know what George Lucas thinks of the Disney Star Wars and that includes rogue one: “Disney Star Wars is not my Star Wars.” - George Lucas.

I just realized. If Vader was holding the door with force, if he’d have closed it all the way the rebels would’ve never retrieved the plans for the Death Star and Yavin 4 would’ve been blown away along with Leia and the rebel base. Empire wins the war with the closing of a single door.

I find the whole premise of a weak spot being designed into the Death Star to be ridiculous.

Rouge One is very much Star Wars, and that’s all we ask. No tributes to the past, no Easter eggs no empty box theory ( JJ!).

I think George's other comments were about what a fine ass Jyn Erso has.

Rogue one was awesome.

Rogue One is great and although I have quibbles with Fett and a few things, Andor is also more than worthwhile.

The Vader scene was the best part.

Rogue One was f*cking awesome. I thought we were going to have awesome movie after awesome movie. 😂

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

Right?!? Maybe one day 🤞

yes- this scene shows why Darth Vader is feared...

rogue one was cool bcos they added a lot of easter eggs in it and it did stay pretty true to the extended universe and concept art, but because they added so much stuff never seen or mentioned in rogue one it felt a bit inorganic, ik that theres always the argument that every single thing unique to rogue one blew up but thats just not super plausible. i think rogue one was a rlly good movie and very entertaining aside from some small nuances and nitpicks but most of those things go away if you were to remove star wars from the title of the movie and everything associated with star wars. yes a lot of the context would be lost and there would be no extrinsic reason to care abt the story other than its the grunt misfit underdogs taking on a very big enemy. i had the same problem with halo reach, similar story and everybody dies in the end. trying to stop some huge force from their goal. but all in all because of how much stuff had to be retconned out of the story for rogue one to have PLAUSIBLY taken place literally moments before the mainline story kicked off i think of it as a good movie and poor star wars installment. good fanservice, much pandering, overall very cool to see, just felt like a lot of the old stuff thrown in was fanservice and a lot of the more ig logical things were thrown aside for merchandising and whatnot

The Vader hallway scene in Rogue One is what a villain is supposed to be. Terrifying, virtually invincible, and merciless. Adam Driver is a great guy and a good actor, but he never for a second gave me that feeling.

@SIPEROTH

Жыл бұрын

Is not just that. By putting him in that costume they just made him like "we have Darth Vader at home" kind of thing. Just a cheap copy instead of being a true new sith character. The whole first movie was just a rehash plot of the old movies done worse as well. Zero originality. I went to the cinema expecting a new plot the continuation of the saga after the death of Vader and the fall of the Empire but instead i just got some rehash with a Vader wanna be along with some feminist bull and some Mary sue new main character. My disappointment was immerse. All i could think is that they had no idea what they were doing.

@redwoodtrees7068

9 ай бұрын

vader has no place in rogue one - it was cheap fan service.

Rogue One fits perfectly in George Lucas trilogy

I enjoyed rogue one. The Vader scene just made the whole movie for me though. Rest of it was pretty good too. The Vader scene could've almost been out of a horror film. I think that should be the way the sith are portrayed. Evil to the core as evil can get. To the point of being almost disturbing. They are after the most powerful force wielders in the galaxy. They are evil to the core. They are powerful enough to command and control legions, being they have no restraints, which means their evils truly have no bounds. They should make one with a sith lord whose lair is like a house of horrors. Like something out of Silent Hill. The stuff that nightmares are made of. It would be awesome.

I hope it was about him (George Lucas) getting dizzy watching it because I haven't been able to enjoy Rogue One due to the extreme and constant camera shake. I stabilized a fraction of the movie to see how bad it was and it was too extreme (the video can be seen on my channel for those curious about it). The first time I watched the movie I really liked the story, but I ended up quite dizzy and with a huge headache because of the visuals and I haven't been able to re-watch it which is a shame. I do wish they release a version removing the added camera shake and stabilizing most of the movie for us people with sensitivity towards that constant movement.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

I will check it out. How did you feel about the camera shake in Kenobi? I found it worse there than in Rogue One

@MonsterHobbieShow

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom I haven't watched that one , somehow I dont find the story interesting nor appealing.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsterHobbieShow Didn't miss much honestly

The only true crime of Rogue One. It was so good they thought they could repeat its success with Andor.

@TheForceFandom

Жыл бұрын

You liked Rogue One but not Andor?

@PhoutianPhill

Жыл бұрын

@@TheForceFandom yes. Andor had too much padding to inflate its episodes. Could've easily been only 6-8 episodes.

Rogue One was excellent. Seen it half a dozen times now, and it gets better each time. Love it. 3rd act was totally OT. Hasn't been ANYTHING as good in Star Wars, since.

Definitely a good movie, it’s the best of the movies outside 70’s trilogy

People like the part that does NOT feature Disney SW characters. Not the best endorsement. Good SW is iconic. Disney original SW characters are gone tomorrow.

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