The designer who made the glass slippers is SRULI RECHT 💫💫

@mikeass964

2 жыл бұрын

Brother could have at least given me a warning for the guy getting his skin taken off

@BlissFoster

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was pretty rough. I gave 2 trigger warnings: one at the beginning of the video and another one 30 seconds before the clip 💫💫

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster Brother you do know Avant Garde's meaning is an art and philosophical term about being at the forefront of a movement. There's no made up definition for Avant Garde specifically in fashion. It's the advanced guard literally, they guard a new and complexly challenging movement. I don't want to say your video is declassified but I can say you should have left the words Avant Garde out of it before you knew what it was.

he do be giving knowledge

@unkanny587

2 жыл бұрын

he do knowledgeable tings

@MADOUT_VPS

2 жыл бұрын

Do be ? Nigga cut that out n speak right tf

@aureliogj7966

2 жыл бұрын

Try that again with grammar

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

Except he butchured the whole meaning of Avant Garde

@calicojakk9974

4 ай бұрын

@@daseapickleofjustice7231He did say he’s open to being corrected. Bestow some knowledge on us.

I think the Avant Garde that is propelled by the likes of Yohji, Rei, Ann and Rick are leaning more into Anti fashion as well. So anti fashion combined with avant garde create a style language that is blind by age, class, gender , trends and every element that the “regular” fashion stands for. I love Avant Garde and Anti Fashion! thats why i personally dm-ed you behind the reason of your interest in Avant Garde because I also wanted to know discern why I love it myself ✨🖤

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping we would get some words from our resident AG expert!! Everyone should check out Karl’s channel, excellent content 🦾

@inkarlcerating

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster omg Bliss thank you ☺️😭

@rosevanstaden4562

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. The cross grain perspective, anarchy against the societal norms, the expression of the “under dog” “ the miss understood “ child of fashion standing up and expressing in the weird way that makes us question; what is a garment’s purpose (and more).

Avant- garde is about eternity something you would look at from the future and still see that it’s forward thinking and can be worn at any time into the future regardless of societal acceptance. It’s novel in the way it is presented it is about the designer thought process that lead them to this creation of intellect. Avant-garde DOES NOT CARE ABOUT TRENDS and what sells but rather the designer’s way of showing the world what is in their minds, the imagination. That’s why it’s futuristic and timeless, by imagination is not bound by time.

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Great thoughts, Sahim! Thank you for sharing 🦾

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

I believe avant-garde fights for the quality of life, and thru the creative process by which we use it to influence others. I believe Avant-Garde should be defined precisely, based on those who have started it, led it and for what purposes? We cannot leave it open to interpretation because the way nutty people are acting now? They could adopt it and turn it into something that has no place in any society. Therefore it is people like this why Avant-Garde took off in the first place! To question authority.

@shahdnone7281

Жыл бұрын

agree, but by your definition avant grade would be something almost impossible to reach

@kristiewintle3717

Жыл бұрын

I printed this comment out for my classroom wall. This comment + this video has given my students a clear understanding of what avant-garde in fashion means. Many thanks.

The word, at it's core refers to those warriors who go first in an army during war. It only got applied to art around the early 1800s and made it's way into fashion for the same reason - like the artists who were doing things that were not done before at the sake of creativity, and those warriors "brave" enough to challenge the opposing army which we could call popular art / fashion.

@mattbray_studio

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i'm really surprised he didn't mention the etymology of the word, as i have always found that the easiest way to understand what it means for artists

@karigrandii

2 жыл бұрын

Damn that really describes avant garde perfectly. Brave soldiers.

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

He butchured the idea of the word with a made up definition. Avant Garde is not at all tied to fashion specifically

@destineelopez2430

Жыл бұрын

Wow! That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing!! :D

Martin Margiela : “doesn’t care much if the proportions seem strange to the eye, if the way he puts his pieces together . . . look unlike what women wear today. That’s the point of being avant-garde, isn’t it? To disturb in some way.”

Interesting video Bliss. Surprised you used Sontag's Against Interpretation however as you engage exactly in what she was arguing against - a focus on complicated hermeneutics rather than viewing the art (in this case fashion) simply by how it appears and how it functions. Western philosophy's (particularly Postmodernism's) need to compartmentalise everything under unique terms is a constant thorn in the side of all creative practices. I think Yohji Yamamoto's work provides us with a good example - Yohji is avant-garde in the purest sense. His work is not about exterior references or providing the viewer/the analyst with layers to interpret. His work is pragmatic and for the wearer - it is about the form of his clothes and how they functions when worn. Can't get more "inaccessible" than that.

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Strong agree! Susan definitely argues against what I do. A big part of why I picked up that essay is because I hoped to learn from her. I have a lot of respect for Susan‘s writings. I’m hoping that reading more of her work will make me better at what I do 💫💫

@jcg_001

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster 100% with you! It's only beneficial to read broadly and from opposing perspectives. I think Kant's Critique of Judgement (specifically the concept of the Sublime and the four moments) could potentionally be used to argue for the purpose of the avant garde fashion as well. Derrida (Deconstructionism) could be another option too - especially given Alison Gills' book Deconstruction Fashion: The Making of Unfinished, Decomposing and Re-assembled Clothes (1998) providing a precident for his ideas being applied to fashion.

@ldc9474

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster The last syllable of Susan Sontag is pronounced tag and it rhymes with rag, it does NOT rhyme with log.

@iantrowell9123

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcg_001 Gill's essay is a journal article in Fashion Theory (volume 2, number 1) - I don't think it exists as a book but I could be wrong. I'd agree, it's a very important piece, though its main task is dispelling the lazy use of deconstruction to simply apply to its literal translation in fashion - taking things apart or not finishing them. She starts to reclaim a potentially more useful application, using Margiela's inside out and construction exposed garments. I need to give it another read!

@jcg_001

2 жыл бұрын

@@iantrowell9123 @Ian Trowell I put book as a simplification, felt it was only a minor misnomer - should have gone something more nebulous like "text". Yeah I mentioned it since I feel it's a good starting point for defining what can be deconstruction within fashion.

i love the setup before. but this one with the chair and background is just ✨✨

Wow, this is probably the most useful explanation of what avant garde is that I've ever come across, the clear distinction between content and form

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

That's because it is a faulty explanation, there is no one definition but Avant Garde is supposed to mean the birth of a new movement within art or philosophy and those who lead it

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

Look deeper into it. There is a lot more to this movement, it's much deeper and you have to really study the definition of what this movement was, is still today. Avant-garde thru the art scene has not only influenced the masses, but it has also influenced them to think deeper and that deepness has led them to help make real societal change over the years. The advanced arts have always been the forefront of societies progress.

This was brilliant! So glad I've found your channel, I love how you explore fashion in an in-depth analytical way, you're also easy to follow (coming from someone with ADHD so you really are!) Hope you're having a good summer.

Nah thank you Bliss, I appreciate this as I am doing some research to deepen the actual knowledge behind where I want to take my brand and how I'll push my own boundaries to come out with something that I can define as amazing to me. Avant-Garde is definitely the route I want to go down but I know all this can not be done in one day and I will have to put these puzzle pieces together.

This video was linked to in my fashion design degree as a conversation around defining Avant-Garde! Such an interesting watch, thank you

@BlissFoster

10 күн бұрын

Awesome! May I ask what school? I want to thank them 🦾

Your channel has inspired me to think more deeply about both fashion and art altogether, especially as a physical manifestation of philosophical ideas- thanks Bliss

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad it as useful for you 💫💫

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

That's a great topic to think about as dialectical materialism is the most important philosophy of our time. I recommend Plato and Hegel as good reads

Bliss has me sitting here watching his videos like lectures

Such a good video, not long ago I mentioned avant-garde to someone and they asked me what it meant, I was like ahhh to be honest I don't even know

In my youth when I first started to develop my love for fashion, I was drawn to the idea of Avant Garde as inexplicably different. I would try to scrible on fashion figures and look at it as Avant Garde. Overtime as I start to expand my knowledge on fashion, My definition of Avant Garde has change. For me it's all about defying the norm. Innovation's are one of the most common form of Avant Garde but it can also be applicable to those who deconstruct and forms satirical crticism. I love how the video say something about how Avant Garde changes over time. That's usually the goal of Avant Garde artist, to push change and perspective. When something Avant Garde is considered a norm over time, it's a success for those artist.

Love your videos and watching you get better and better at making them, YOU ARE GOING TO GO MEGA!

loved it, the explaination and damn casual way of telling such an intense movement !!

So I was thinking lately and there are 2 linguistic points, it is fair that we should follow the pre-established meaning of words to correctly express notions behind them, but what about the second point in which the language is defined not by the dictionary, but by the usage of people in communication, that's a whole different perspective as if we remember the one who create dictionaries base their decisions about words meaning on the one they have already heard or found in literature, not the one that already exists. So taking into account the dynamics of the word meaning may be useful not to set borders too strict.

Hi Bliss, luv ur videos! Could you include all the fashion designers you mention in your videos in the description? I’d love to learn more about them and it’d really help me find out more. Thanks!

amazing depth! looking forward to more!

Love your thoughts on this topic. I also like to add Alexander McQueen his house speak to issues using unconventional understanding of garments expressed as art exposing the good the bad the ugly and yes very much in sync with the zeitgeist of the time

I've learnt so much from this channel. Gracias

I grew up in Cambridge, MA and live around the corner from that MIT building glad to see it in here 🔥💯

Every art piece has a concept, even when the concept is being conceptless. Art is always a reaction.

@martincanart7418

2 жыл бұрын

I'm intrigued. If I take videos of things that I find visually appealing but don't have a concept behind me taking the videos. Do you mean that I'm driven by unconscious concepts?

@karigrandii

2 жыл бұрын

Its your reaction to the beauty of the material world you observe. You capture it for it’s beauty. Just filming random footage would again be purposefully random/meaningless that again is then the meaning.

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

Avant-garde is far more profound than that. It is a powerful tool that only few know how to access to reach the masses.

as someone who was randomly recommended this video out of no where while knowing nothing about fashion this was interesting and fairly easy to follow!! i guess i'll be getting into fashion now l m a o

Never really cared about fashion, but this is interesting. Thanks for the vid!

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad it was useful for you! There’s so much more to fashion than just “SIX HOT TRENDS FOR SPRING” etc. if you want to have your mind blown, go check out my video on Margiela’s Spring 1990 runway show. Absolutely wild stuff

@thesaviorofsouls5210

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster will do!

I'm so glad I found your channel!

Thanks. Just wow. This just solved the prolonged mystery in my head

This is a difficult subject, so thanks for kicking it off. I think form and content mapped across from fine art and applied to fashion is tricky to conceptualise. It crosses over with the form and function dichotomy, so maybe a discussion from avant-gardism in architecture could be useful. I need to go away and give it more thought. For example, wearability is possibly a function (with warmth, decency etc if we are talking about classical functions of clothing). Fashion is a function - an articulation of differences if we want to use the definition evolved from Saussare's functionalism via Barthes, Baudrillard, etc. I need to watch your film on anti-fashion, that might help me!

So freaking cool. None of art is disconnected or in a vacuum

i honestly hope you never stop making videos

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t stop if I tried 🦾

@Bill-jb6um

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster BLESS

Brilliant video, glad i found this channel

thank you for all of this amazing video

It really helps to understand avant-garde art as pushing the art FORM (or all art) forward. It’s not about the art itself, more about the progress or newness of the art pushing the boundaries.

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

Avant-garde is much, much more profound than that. Few have the ability to access it as a powerful tool to reach societies consciousness.

Could listen to you for hours

I think I've finally wrapped my head around the concept! Took me a hot minute there. I think after watching the terminology video as a 101 this makes more sense. I feel like I wasn't quite latching on to the relation between avant garde, and time.

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

It's really more about the concept of future, how to read that future, to see it when you know you see it. It's like swaying society but only for the future.

The Avant-Garde is about fighting for and maintaining freedom, while defining who we are thru meaningful art that speaks to the masses! Before one tries to explain what it is, it is equally important to talk about how it started, what the original meanings meant, and what it was meant to do. Avant-Garde is the Vanguard (French) of an Army. The part of the army that goes first into battle. Progressive artists in the beginning adopted this term to define themselves as going into battle, to be bold and create art that would, could influence, even change thinking of the masses. To move people, or at least open doors to open thinking about societies fairness and inclusiveness. To break free of the old outdated stagnate thinking that suppressed peoples views and freedoms pre-1960's. The 1960's counter culture movements are a great example of this. The arts HEAVILY influenced this movement, as vise versa the movement influenced artists. Over the years there have been many, many artists in literature, music, film, even fashion, as well as visual and performing arts who have experimented in finding ways to help society break free, to help create a more open free'r society, to advance a more inclusive society, not only here in the states but around the world. Whether its the early expressionists of Monet, or Andy Warhol and the Velvet Underground, or todays Ice Cube, Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift, these artists are a HUGE part of the art movement. Lately extremists have coined it "woke" but there is nothing wrong with being woke. Being consciously awake is actually a good thing. It benefits everyone. And who knows? Maybe it is possible that the next movement could be woke-ism! Perhaps under the heading of pop as there are numerous sub-movements going on right now? And we cannot forget the fact that all of this is art driven. It's why modern art museums exist beyond old art museums. We can enjoy and learn from the past, the present or both! There have been many movements under the avant-garde in the last 100+ years and the latest, and the biggest movement of today (that basically umbrella's the entire movement) is Pop Culture! It is called pop culture because it is 'popular'. All of these movements in the past that have tried to create popular culture has now collectively developed in the past 60, 70 years and grown into one true pop, and it has at one time or another touched all of our lives. It is a culture where we as artists, our job is to move people into an open direction, to examine the world closer as we create its beauty. We can only do this thru constant experimentation in our quest to define who we are as people and how we coincide with each other, as well as life here on earth. This is vital for human survival and our freedoms.

I believe the Margiela collection could arguably lose wearability when you view it through the lens of the fact that the garment itself (devoid of its print alteration), the plain simple dresses, should in theory be considered articles of clothing too "low brow" for the buyers of the goods and would be unseemly in many social contexts due to this fact. This is especially important given the context of the period it was made in, and the lack of prestige low-brow fashion aesthetics were given during the period.

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a great point

bliss Foster ... For PRESIDENT. LOL He is just so awesome, him and Kelly Stamps!

Maybe there should be a word that we could use for things that arent avant-garde because they don’t sacrifice anything to push boundaries; but are still bringing something new to the fashion scene

What is Avant-Garde? I've always taken it to mean the intentional breaking of convention at it's core. The reasons for, or methods of the breaking of conventions are what is of most interest to me in this area, since I personally don't enjoy breaking convention for the sake of it, although I very much enjoy discovering new ways of doing things. The Avant-Garde is not the paradigm shift, but precedes it. After a paradigm shift what was considered conventional has changed and therefore, to my way of thinking, that necessarily affects what can be considered Avant-Garde from that new paradigm. At least that's my point of view after studying the photography and painting side of art history for a little while.

great explanation of Avant-Garde!

great video! thanks!

thank you for this Bliss

i just wish fashion ™️ wasn’t so fucking expensive

Am i the only one who like how bliss Foster sounds? His voice is mesmerizing.

there's so much history and terminology in fashion ugh

My thought on avant-garde, which translates in literal fashion from the French as "advance guard," is that many designers can be seen as having an avant-garde moment. I refer to Madame Vionnet's introduction of cutting on the bias; Dior's 1947 "New Look;" Chanel's "Little Black Dress" in the 1920's, and her 1953 suits: four-pocket jacket with metal buttons and matching skirt; etc. They each gained an image of being "the wonderful 'next new major thing' that no one else had thought about, yet, but should have." However, they are not in any way perceived as avant-garde designers. It seems that designers only achieve that attribution over time in an authentic manner by remaining outside of (or ahead of) the current's mainstream, collection after collection and year upon year. This "outside" quality allows the designer to keep the same look year after year, if she or he wishes. Paradoxically, this "keeping-the-same-silhouette-forever" ability plays into the definition of avant-garde. This is not something the "inside" designers could do, as they are expected to continually innovate and evolve. Avante-garde fashion has the capacity to startle the viewer upon first sight, which might be another aspect of its definition.

thank you for so much info

hi Bliss! thank you so much for your content and knowledge 💗 i was wondering if you could explain the difference between Avant-Garde and Camp?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ellie 💫💫 you’re very welcome! Camp is an aesthetic, avant-garde is a design philosophy. Camp is really over the top, cheesy-almost-on-purpose type stuff. Things like Rupaul’s Drag Race are camp. Avant-Garde is an artist that’s trying to create a totally new kind of art. There’s a lot more to it, but that’s the quick version 💫💫

Goood morning erryone hope y’all have a blessed productive week🖤

@taariqjoyce486

3 жыл бұрын

Have a based productive week 🤝

@D3athW1ng

3 жыл бұрын

You too !!

@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5653

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I really like Yohji Yamamoto as an example of how avant garde can shift over time. Many of Yamamoto's silhouettes, color choices etc have become entwined into mainstream fashion. It's not that his work suddenly becomes "less good," it's that if the work takes off and becomes entrenched in the norm, it's no longer outside of bounds. It created the new boundary. But then again, some avant garde stays that way if no one attempts to recreate it or build on any specific theme. Like I don't know how to make slippers you can't wear not avant garde, or a "condom" made of leather that can't be used. The concept itself is kind of peak subjectivity really, being bent to the will of time, context, etc

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Great thoughts, thanks so much for taking the time to write a nuanced response 🦾

@nicozepeda5250

3 жыл бұрын

*Like I don't know how to make slippers you can't wear not avant garde, or a "condom" made of leather that can't be used.* i didnt get this line could u explain with different words? thxx

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

And that is the whole point of avant-garde. To introduce leather condom and glass slippers, things that aren't practical in society, but that is not the goal of what is considered right or wrong. The goal is to 'challenge' things like condoms and slippers as being 'practical', this assumption societies tend to embrace. It is about questioning authoritative ideas. Why does the color green have to be called 'green'? Why can't it be called pink or red, or something totally different? Why are airplanes called airplanes? Why can't we call them metal fliers or something like that? Why are slippers and condoms considered normal in their present state? Why can't we change our minds on that? The avant-garde movement was about moving society away from stagnate ideas. To challenge norms is to challenge everything we use in our vocabulary, our ways of life and that gets to the heart of what avant-garde is really about overall. Questioning society! And on bigger social and economic issues like inequality, economic imbalance, racism, a headless society, abuse of those who are different, (because they are) who are often put into categories like a woman in a kitchen, gay people into a closet, people of color as servants, the list goes on. Avant-garde is about life, the fight for the quality of it. To question things that were thought of as normal, avant-garde explores those perceived notions to try and change them into something more cohesive. Avant-garde artists have always been the forefront of that movement and will continue to be.

Very interesting video. I only would like to add that there should be designers or trends that follow, however many years later, to be considered Avant-Garde. Maybe there's a need for a word for fashion outliers? Designers who stay true to their vision (e.g. Yamamoto in this video) but doesn't inspire others. Who function like "musicians musicians", not inspirations but neccessary palate cleansers, if you will.

I loved this!!!

Love the video, was wondering who makes that sweater or how I can find it, it’s 🔥

@BlissFoster

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a Fall Winter 2015 Helmut Lang Cashmere Hoodie 💫💫

Great commentary Ur favorite designer's favorite critic :)

loved this video

I agree with you. I think that Avant-Garde evolves along side an evolving culture.

Love you, Bliss🐇

From the art lecture i took, avant garde is the french word describing the soldiers up front pushing the boundary, so it implies the idea of challenging old ideas and looking for new forms in the art context. Hence, i believe avant garde is a relative concept along the flow of time. When Saint Laurent brought up the idea of Ready to Wear during the era when everyone is making bespoke suits, that was considered avant garde. Yohji brought up collections in monotone when Paris was all about the glamour and colours, that was avant garde as well. Now? Not so much. Not saying that the designers are trapped in their signature style after they saw the path to success, instead, ‘avant garde’ is just a label for people to easily understand the rebellious ideas that challenged the norms and were against the contemporary values. If i say so myself, man like Yohji, who said making clothes is like walking in a dark alley, is now doing a collab with supreme, now thats avant garde. Jk

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I like this approach. Personally, I prefer the term to be more specific, BUT I feel like any definition we use needs to have a clear way for it to be used. And that’s what you’ve laid out here. I appreciate the nuanced comment, Laurese 🦾 Keep it up 💫💫

@daseapickleofjustice7231

Жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster I wish you to represent art well and then you cannot say you need a specific definition for an idea, escape the Anglo box of discourse

@hughdismuke4703

Жыл бұрын

Avant-garde is about change and there are few who know how to use it effectively.

Thanks for sharing ✅👌

Actually had to watch the video twice

I'm going to need a more specific id on that Helmut hoodie!!

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Fall Winter 2015 I believe 💫💫 cashmere hoodie

Is there any designer piece that you think has outstanding balance of wearability, form, and content?

Great vid

Surprised Carol Christian Poell was not mentioned. The drips, prosthetics, material use, dyeing practice, and more make the label’s work a no-brainer for avant-garde.

the plane dresses reminded me of Gaga’s living dress from the monster ball tour

Ok just had to say if this is the depth of comments on youtube (and the video of course) I'm dashing to the Patreon lol

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Ayyyyy 🙏🙏 that means a ton to me, Grace. Thank you

right time

this video is so cool and interesting

many thanks my dear sir, the watching of this video has heightened my capacity to converse with others in a most pretentious manner.

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

indubitably 💫 💫

'oh hi i didnt see you there' lmao

Normalize wearing armor 💜

I was thinking about this recently: will an artist/ designer label themselves as 'avant-garde'? Any designer is considered avant-garde is because WE do so. In fact, to be truly avant-garde, one must not label themselves at all. Because once you do that, you are putting yourself in a box - which would go against the very idea of avant-garde. Sooo to be really truly avant-garde is to try not be avant-garde at all? Any other category of fashion, like streetwear, couture, etc. will always have certain rules or criteria to be considered that. And even it looks visually changes over the years, the core idea will remain the same. But avant-garde has to change with time. Even it's very core ideas perhaps.

@gpu213

Жыл бұрын

kind of yea, I don't think you have to be completely unaware of your own impact, that would be intentional naivete in my opinion. I mean when vivienne westwood introduced punk looks, she was well aware it was new and innovative idea, and therefore in retrospect, she could consider her work avant garde. But I get what your saying, calling yourself a couturier or a streetwear designer is saying you do things a certain way, and therefore giving yourself expectations (which you may match or fail to match) whereas calling yourself avant garde is like saying, "the only rule is there are no rules"

Bliss, i'm following you for like 2 years and even more. You always share new ideas and inspirations. Most of the time, you force me to think the opposite side of the current. I love your content and have respect for your dedicated research. I mean it.

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Encouragement means a lot to me, Hakan, thank you for saying so. I’m so glad you’ve found all this useful 💫💫

You look like the joker from the newest movie I just noticed that wow, YOURE SO COOL

While Avant Garde is the only way, fashion can still, innovatively progress with the cultural Zeitgeist,it can never be the answer to anything. Avant Garde is about finding new ways, so Avant Garde is simply the definition of the exact question we have to ask ourselves, in order to find the way, that reflects our vision.

I have been thinking about my definition of avant-garde since i watched this video. Just now i think i hit the nail on the head for my interpretation. I define avant-garde as experimental and new with an ability to break norms. This would bring the problem of how designers such as Johji could stay avant-garde. As by my idea of avant-garde it is a concept that should be different everytime new “norms” are formed. So maybe avant-garde is the point from where on a designer introduces a new aesthetic against the norm of the time

I would like to know Where is from the video of the man runing from a drone minute 6 :26

@BlissFoster

Жыл бұрын

Sruli Recht is the designer 💫💫

Do you think a very commercially successful designer can still manage to be avant-garde and be hugely commercial at the same time or one thing excludes the other? Michele in Gucci has managed to bring fashion forward elements mixed with modern day cultural influences in an already famous and commercially successful brand, mixing it with the brand's heritage especially in accessories which is what is really pushing its sells and success in my opinion, but what about new up and coming independent designers with a strong artistic, aspirational and somewhat philosophical approach to fashion? Can they maintain elitarism and combine it with the need for commercial success aka money? Similarly to what McQueen did

You’re work is amazing 🤩 ... Where are you’re pants from?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Those are JW Anderson! I love em! Btw the brands I’m wearing are always listed at the beginning of each episode 💫💫

Anyone know what I can search to find more about the twin/double dress piece at the beginning of the video?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Guo Pei 💫💫

@lokwinsk

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlissFoster thank you very much 💖

How long did u take to groe your hair from ur profile pic short hair? Did you perm and how u style them?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been growing it out for about a year, getting little trims as I go. No perm, my hair just curls up at this length 💫💫

Hi Bliss, I have a small question, where is the thumbnail art from? Thanks!

@BlissFoster

2 жыл бұрын

Fredrik Tjærandsen 🦾

Bruh, I love your Balmain Hair Couture wig! It looks so good on you!

@Sonmmmxuan

3 жыл бұрын

I miss you 😭😭😭

To be honest, I feel like a case can be made for "bringing ideas that are outside of fashion into fashion" as a definition of avant-garde. Because in a way, what most designers do is recycle pre-existing ideas into new ones (amazingly so, by the way). But by leaning into the fields of architecture, art, technology, avant-garde fashion takes inspiration from something else, and brings a new narrative. In this regard, I think the gender-bending fashion of now is only partly avant-garde, because it brings ideas of philosophy (queer philosophy) into fashion, but it's already something that was existing in fashion, be it the garçonnes of the 1920s, or the gender neutral work clothes (like a lab coat). And a new idea that's neither art, nor architecture nor anything else, truly new, can also be seen as "outside of fashion". Now fight me :)

ure amazing

do one for archive !!

@BlissFoster

2 жыл бұрын

I have an episode about this! 😊 just search KZread for “Bliss Foster archive” and it’ll come up 💫💫

5:05 - What is this? Can someone Identify the white frame/ Square turning thing?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

A-COLD-WALL 💫💫

which year is the margiela show and what is the name of the airplane dress？

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

Margiela Spring 1996. I’m not sure I understand your other question, could you try rephrasing it? My understanding is it’s just called the airplane dress 💫💫

Can someone please spell the name / help me find the designer referenced with the glass shoe at the 6:50 mark ??

@BlissFoster

Жыл бұрын

Sruli Recht 💫💫

@abrahamlange7306

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

I know it when I see it.

how can we join the server :)?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

The private discord is a perk to joining the Patreon. I keep the price as low as I can so anyone who wants the benefits of the community can join up. The link is in the description 💫💫

So by definition, what would be the complete opposite of avant grade? As in what would be the art form that would describe something that is trying to not only say a message but tell a story

@amulyajain725

3 жыл бұрын

Avant garde is literally expression of a story

@God.EmperorBran

3 жыл бұрын

@@amulyajain725 well no, its expression of art or art form like fencing.

I'm not sure you need to flip the definition to make it work for fashion. I think as it applies to this topic "content" is roughly akin to "the point of..." (e.g. telling a story about a dying father, or a jacket being warm and attractive) and form is roughly akin to "presentation" (e.g. the film was edited to be non-linear, the jacket was made to be worn by three people and the show was on brighton pier as a commentary on the tourism industry).

Who is the maker at 3:06 ?

@BlissFoster

2 жыл бұрын

UNDERCOVER by Jun Takahashi 💫💫

True, that avant-garde is tied to it’s current time. Avant-garde 50 years ago may not be avant-garde 50 years from now or even today. But the point is not that, atleast, for me, the point is that it pushed the artform forward

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May I ask what is the name of the art piece in 1:46?

@BlissFoster

3 жыл бұрын

“Play-Doh” by Jeff Koons or maybe you were referring to “Composition with Portrait” by Victor Brauner? 💫💫

@williamman7304

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! I was wondering that “Play-Doh” sculpture belongs to who. Now I know. Appreciate!