Earth Gamer: Man my Ping is 140ms Mars Gamer: Man my ping is 22 minutes

@Ajibolaa

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 must be nice playing league on that internet

@timhartherz5652

Ай бұрын

Don't mind the speed, we can work around it by reviving a BBS kind of service, but that lag is insane.

@idehenebenezer802

Ай бұрын

Jesus is returning soon🔥 Repent and turn away from your sins to obtain salvation 🤗

@Maxoverpower

Ай бұрын

Even worse when you consider than "ping" is defined as round trip delay, whereas the 22 minute figure is one-way.

@Fa1seP0sitive

Ай бұрын

I imagine in the future we'll have to have datacenters mirroring data to other datacenters on other planets and seevers will be by planet lmao

This honestly feels like a SciShow video, in a good way. Well explained and easily digestible.

@Mr718Mega

Ай бұрын

Sounds similar also

@idehenebenezer802

Ай бұрын

Jesus is returning soon🔥 Repent and turn away from your sins to obtain salvation 🤗

@Snaily

Ай бұрын

@@idehenebenezer802 What sins?

@NertyLabs

Ай бұрын

@@idehenebenezer802 Amen. Earth is flat dont believe this nonsense space stuff.

@CoreyKearney

Ай бұрын

@@Snaily Don't feed the trolls

Starlink is also one of those examples of inter-satellite communication where they use laser to transmit data between satellites.

@Unbaguettable

Ай бұрын

yup, its pretty insane

@jtjames79

Ай бұрын

Should be entirely possible to turn the entire thing into a giant infrarometer. A telescope the size of the solar system would be cool.

@gus473

Ай бұрын

Am watching this via SpaceX Starlink! For anyone in a remote setting, it's life-changing technology! (And a large cool quotient too!) 😎✌️

@hubertnnn

Ай бұрын

Except their laser communication (most important part of starlink) does not work.

@jtjames79

Ай бұрын

@@hubertnnn Last I checked more than 8000 starlink have laser links. It's standard equipment going forward. They needed them for polar coverage sometime in 23.

Imagine aliens intercept our laser communications and see cat videos. Really shows humanity's obsession for our fur balls.

@chadbizeau5997

Ай бұрын

You mean videos of the life forms they use to spy on us?

@WyattOShea

Ай бұрын

Cats are the best :)

@user-op8fg3ny3j

Ай бұрын

Für

@c.j.hatton

Ай бұрын

No, what if the aliens think that the cats are video calling and that they are the most intelligent creatures on Earth

@acmenipponair

Ай бұрын

And imagine this: They then look at it and say: "damn, we thought the humans were apes. But they are like us - cat people. Let's visit" and that's how we got our alien catgirl girlfriends ;)

Torrenting from Mars is still going to suuuuuck. 😛

@ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao

Ай бұрын

better that torrenting from my dog

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

Why would it be different?

@Quasi-stellar_object

Ай бұрын

It would take longer just for the first click. When you get constant stream of data, it's the same. It is like buffered video on KZread.

@r3dhorse

Ай бұрын

Gonna need a sneaker net.

I was able to download the entire Kessel run in 8 parsecs.

@barbieslegos8885

Ай бұрын

Nice

@TheEGames

Ай бұрын

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time

@zangcheye

Ай бұрын

@@TheEGames True, but it doesn't matter as long as you shoot first.

@jocopowell

Ай бұрын

@@TheEGames Don't tell Hans Solo.

@googlesucks6029

Ай бұрын

@@TheEGames Whooooooossssh

Should have mentioned the data rates of comms with the Voyager probes!!

@_TeXoN_

Ай бұрын

Currently it is 1200 bits/s

@sandmaster4444

Ай бұрын

Jpl says it's 160 bps!!

@jnhkx

Ай бұрын

With 150,103,840 ms roundtrip ping.

@khenricx

Ай бұрын

@@sandmaster4444 160 bytes per second is the same as 1280 bits per second so you are both correct here.

@notgreg123

Ай бұрын

​@@jnhkx that's actually accurate lol

We got cat videos on Mars before GTA6

05:59 they did really send a cat video! 😸

@TheDarksideFNothing

Ай бұрын

I feel like there's enough precedent at this point that you're basically obligated for your first transmission to include some kind of cat meme

the latency on mars is still going to be brutal 45 minute ping time simply because of the speed of light

@FirestarterAJ12

Ай бұрын

I love how at this point you just rounded an entire minute of ping 😂

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

Mars has a smaller diameter and thinner atmosphere than Earth so ping times there should also be lower

@acmenipponair

Ай бұрын

@@shanent5793 ... You understand what Speed of Light is and why we can't send data faster than that, right? And that it doesn't depend on the atmosphere or diameter of a planet...

@maximilianstallinger735

Ай бұрын

​@@acmenipponair He probably ment a communication between two points on Mars

@helloitsme4139

Ай бұрын

Someday hopefully if we have a human colony on mars, we could set up and internet cache system, data centre on earth sends (whatever data) to mars to be stored and accessed locally, depending on the population and interests, AI predictive models could pre spool up data. We cant change the speed of light, but we could be sending data packets in the mulit terabit or even petabyte range in the next few decades. having a data transmission that big could almost negate the latency time.

I can't even tell you how happy it makes me to see space and nasa represented outside of their specific channels.

One advantage you have in transmitting electromagnetic waves in a vacuum is that the speed of light c is a constant for all frequencies. That is not true in a material because the phase velocity in a dielectric material will differ with frequency. To send information you need a band of frequencies around the carrier and so in a material (i.e. circuit board) the different phase velocities of the different frequency components will cause dispersion and signal integrity issues.

i hope the alien's are not light-based else they might see the cat attacking the lazer as an threat

@notgreg123

Ай бұрын

I mean it's a beam of light traveling through a very small spacs, it's probably really really hard to intercept that even if you know its coming

@acmenipponair

Ай бұрын

If the aliens would be light-based, they would think the laser beam they got the message from are we. :D

@EhrenLoudermilk

Ай бұрын

Cats would be the ones to start an intergalactic war

@Midori_Hoshi

Ай бұрын

The alien's what? Did you leave out a word?

@notgreg123

Ай бұрын

@@EhrenLoudermilk maybe cats are just using us to become the rulers of the galaxy 👀

For terabytes of data, the good ole pigeon carrier method would do well in the future. Using missles instead of pigeons.

@TheSanpletext

Ай бұрын

"Weekly KZread subscription USB missile incoming. Brace for impact. In 5.. 4.. 3.." 😂

Imagine getting a high def photo of Uranus...

Love that y'all are doing space videos!

I loved this video; so interesting. Riley, we need more of these!

How I imagine the Mars colony internet would work would be that the most popular content on Earth would be curated by an AI every day, then sent to Mars to be stored locally for the entertainment of the people living there. That way, you could still scroll on your phone during your break or downtime without having to wait for the system to ping Earth for it. If you do want anything else, you can still request it, but you'll have to put up with the delay. The system would also work the other way round.

It's been said, I'll say it again. This is sci-show levels of communication and subject matter. Well done. Lets have more of this please.

The ECC on that signal would be a fascinating topic

I genuinely love these videos. I watch them in a curated playlist. LOL

I love this guy, whether its LTT or here, each time makes a video about things ive always wanted to know. + doesnt have an annoying voice

Interesting stuff! Thank you!

this reminds me of a silly story on "the daily WTF", about tourists on a space station. one of them complained about his internet lagging and DEMANDED that the tech FIX it. she said something like, "i can't change the speed of light", and the VIP had NO idea what she meant! the story is called "radio-wtf: space for guests". (KZread almost always blocks direct links to other sites)

Space isn’t really empty around our planet when you think about all the satellites that are flying around us at any given time!!

Techquickie has quickly become my favorite LMG Channel. Riley is the perfect host for this

TLDR: The ISS has like 300 megabits, but it still is like a billion ping.

Quantum Entanglement ❤

happy to see the concept of "tight beam" communication from The Expanse become reallity

can't wait for the first Civilization game played between a Martian and an Earthling

This shows how slow light actually is , in grand scheme of universe, light is too slow to be meaningful

the future of space internet is going to be a massive data server that sits in space that then communicates long distance over starlink-esque systems to other servers so you can do massive data dumps as it makes its way to the next server imo, since having a direct call every time for a specific piece of data is dumb you need to have mass storage instead basically cloning everything on earths internet and then dumping it again on server on mars and vis-versa allowing for what will look like near instant communication when in fact you will still be between 3-30 minutes of delay in actual data. additionally you will need to develop some sort of mini nuclear reactor to deal with the power issue. aside from this you will also need to develop some sort of live communications network between earth and mars that fixes the delay not sure what this will look like probably something with quantum computing and physics cause it probably isnt possible other wise.

dos melhores techquickies dos ultimos tempos!

3:00, i thought that was my Fold going. Heart skipped a beat.

IR can go through clouds, if I'm not mistaken. Also dust. That makes it a very compelling candidate for the task. It makes me hopeful that scientists will find more and more ways to make this faster. My big concerns are any potential for atmospheric or gravitational lensing, but I know these issues could easily be conquered.

@Ryzza5

Ай бұрын

Remember when laptops used iR data transfer before WiFi?

@garystinten9339

Ай бұрын

And oops. My hand was in front of the remote control when changing channels on tv..

hope you guys more nana tech in the future!!!

Man, wouldn’t it be crazy if there were patents for quantum entanglement communication devices that you could view on Google patents

2:57 Hurry back, Riley!

Good job my friend.

Absolutely whiffed the opportunity to say "We're comin' for Uranus"

I’ve been wondering this for so long

great info....

This explains why we do not receive radio transmissions of other civilizations in space. They also made swift transition to lasers and directional aspect of lasers makes it almost impossible to receive by a chance.

@Blackbirdone11

Ай бұрын

Not really. Even at lightspeed the Radius we can listen to or send is sooooooo small. Imagine our galaxy is the earth and now you are on a beach and the area we cover is smaller then a grain of sand. There would be no way that someone is that close. So someone would needed to send a signal thousand years or even longer ago so we hear or see a signal today. And ttthats only our Galaxy. Now imagine billions of billions of other earths in space. Even if there would be someone he needed to be in our Galaxy and that really close (in space meaussures)

@Montrala

Ай бұрын

@@Blackbirdone11 I know all of that 4D puzzle of space and time. But moving to lasers it makes receiving signal exponentially less probable. So going back to Fermi’s question, everyone is where and when they are supposed to be, but we will just never receive anything.

dang....i never thought of that... im curious how much cosmic radiation and comsic rays actually effect band width... fantastic idea for a video...👍

Please bring more Mazda, Lotus, Noble, and Gordon Murray to the game!

Haircut looks nice, suits you

More like this!

Yeyy... we're doing space

The frequency does not limit the amount of data that can be sent over RF. The modulation and channel width are the factors there. A 20Mhz wide channel with 1024 QAM is the same regardless of frequency. The frequency changes the propagation characteristics of the wave, low frequency passes through matter better than high frequency up to a point, eventually the higher frequency can pass between atoms, but that's a whole different thing...

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

A 20MHz wide channel will alias itself at frequencies below 10MHz making the signal unusable, so there is some dependence on frequency. Lower frequencies passing through matter also limits the signal to noise ratio, effectively reducing the throughput.

@garystinten9339

Ай бұрын

And wouldn't the signal dissipate over distance..?

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

@@garystinten9339 yes, the beam divergence is limited by diffraction, so for a given aperture size a higher frequency will have lower divergence, which will also improve SNR

Here before the bots to watch a video on a question I never asked myself.

@richardduerr1948

Ай бұрын

Hmm, this bot seems self aware... We've gone too far with AI. Time for the Butlerian Jihad

@DerBlaueRabe42

Ай бұрын

I did. I played too much KSP.

@sky0kast0

Ай бұрын

And my uncle was part of the team

@KingLarbear

Ай бұрын

This is funny

@sigma_799

Ай бұрын

so that means you have nothing better to do

Me to myself when i clicked the video: "You know, I have been asking myself what are the download speeds in space?"

@jenniferjones2863

Ай бұрын

Lol

Can you share the link to the full video of that cat clip you have used?

thats false. there is no down in space.

@Joeseanag24

Ай бұрын

Alright I got a solution, Inload and Outload, Argument invalidated ┐⁠(⁠‘⁠～⁠`⁠;⁠)⁠┌

@The01Director

Ай бұрын

We are still solving for dark matter. In or out might be inaccurate. Maybe before and after?

@coreywy

Ай бұрын

The enemy's gate is down

@AntimatePcCustom

Ай бұрын

In space we call it left and right load 😎

@dragonking972

Ай бұрын

Or up

Space lasers. I knew it. Is a tinfoil hat enough?

You can increase transfer speeds by also using a meshed network. If you had a base on Mars, you could split the packet into 3 (for instance), send it to a satellite each then to the base where it gets reconstructed.

Good to know interplanetary communications have a higher bandwidth than Windstream VDSL

i hope fictional concepts such as "sub-space communication" can one day be a reality....

Cool !

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Using this network, the ping would be approximately 0.00333564604 milliseconds per kilometer. So ping to earth, when you would be on Mars (if the distance would be 225,000,000 kilometers), would amount to 750,000 milliseconds (750 seconds, so 12.5 minutes).

The video loaded like hell. The first 10 seconds it was all choppy and sounded like robot sex. I had to rewind it 😂😂😂😂😂

Even though it's a common misconception @ 1:41, throughput is actually a function of bandwidth, not frequency.

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

If the center frequency is lower than half the bandwidth it will cause aliasing and degrade the signal. In practice it's easier to work with a signal where the bandwidth is only a small fraction of the frequency, so you can have a better signal to noise ratio and higher throughput for the same bandwidth at higher frequencies. Complex encodings needed at low frequencies also have higher latency which will increase the bandwidth-delay product, limiting throughput for protocols like TCP

@acmenipponair

Ай бұрын

@@shanent5793 Yes, that's for example the reason why shortwave radio was only used for voice communication, and not music: because listening to music in Shortwave sucks... that's like listening to an MP3 in 32 kbs. AM is the minimum of frequency you need for listenable sound quality. That's also the reason why when they started HD TV, they scrapped the lower FM TV frequencies in favor of higher bands: because lowband TV channels wouldn't be able to carry HD signals.

so, basically those furball are our actual overlord?

To the Moon!

Bro spent so much time yapping about DSOC, he didn't even answer the original question. What is the download speed on the ISS?

@bartekjankowski8000

Ай бұрын

He kind of did 5:15

@AlamoOriginal

Ай бұрын

You expect this kind of relative question in a such condensed subject as fucking LASER telecomunications for satelites light years away with asteroids and stuffs is rather dumb, you can make it out depending on distance which is probably what he said either between 1mbp/s to roughly gigabit speed if its closer like a satelite orbiting moon

@uss-dh7909

Ай бұрын

@@AlamoOriginal What moon? The Moon (Luna), Phobos, Demos, Io, Titan? Lots of moons out there.

@AlamoOriginal

Ай бұрын

@@uss-dh7909 the Lunar moon of us obviously

@alyssa6791

26 күн бұрын

LTT channels are just click bait like this

Like a gameboy color infrared link on steroids or an infrared TV remote

I wonder how much scrap value that Cali antenna will fetch? 😅

It’s impressive to think we can communicate with Mars in my opinion. I get terrible cell reception and Radio stations all the time so space Agencies must be incredibly patient.

what about x-rays??? or possibly gamma rays??? my electromagnetic scale is a little rusty...but im curious if that would be applicable

@DavidCase-ov5uo

11 күн бұрын

What about ultraviolet lasers which are shorter wavelength than red? Used in blue ray players as you get more data onto the disc.

Where's the quick bits? I'm starving!!!

OMG!!! Space lasers!!!

I am curious what level of power these lasers need for that kind of range.

Right 💯😅

Can we transmit doom on these soon? I mostly just want to hear the that doom was running on a satellite

For Earth to Mars transmission, do they suffer an outage if the moon or sun is in between for a period? For both the old and new system? Interesting topic. Thanks for the video!

@psycho_ch7281

Ай бұрын

Nah, they would simple use a satellite orbiting earth or even the moon to re-send the signal.

@joseph7988

Ай бұрын

@@psycho_ch7281 "You're call has been redirected to the moon. Please hang up and dial again."

@Otis151

Ай бұрын

@@psycho_ch7281 thanks!

@neptunium_239

Ай бұрын

They use a satellite to relay the laser.

@DougEllison

Ай бұрын

Yes. This is called solar conjunction. For about ~2-3 weeks the angle between the Sun and Mars as seen from Earth is too small to reliably send commands up to our Mars spacecraft - so they're given a couple of weeks of low level activity instructions in advance, and left alone for that time. ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/ho6rmZaJe9LHmrg.html )

Australian radio telescopes are not within bowl-shaped mountainous regions... rather tehy are just in the middle of a large area where there are restrictions on what radio communication is allowed. basically: the government just designates an area several hundred kilometres wide and says "nope" to people using certain tech.

@samuelhulme8347

28 күн бұрын

It’s just like an invisible, legal bowl shaped mountain.

Me with orange cats 😻

I think the Space Station internet should be pretty decent with all the satellites we’ve been pumping into orbit

How to test the speed of quantum comms.. Send a quantum command to a craft near Mars and get the response back by Radio . If the response comes back in half the expected time, then the quantum speed would be faster than light.

the ending shouuld have been :"We are coming for Uranus"

well same as fiber/radio but with longer start delay. just like this segway.

Should have said we're coming for Uranus 😂

Better than mine thet for sure...

We need satellites in the Orbit of Mars who communicates with laser and can also send multiple waves to Mars.

I'll be 63 in a couple months and spent today under my travel trailer fixing water damage, which I will continue to do until it is all fixed. Laying in gravel is more fun than our stunning 2.02 Mbps download speed today.

Can anyone send those 3 radio dishes to rainbolt and let him guess which one is from which place?

..even gigabits per second. Alright.. movie night is good for the moon.

@AlamoOriginal

Ай бұрын

Or how about projecting it to the moon and stream netflix on it eh? 😂

LMG has been having sponsors by Odoo for some times now. Has someone actually tried Odoo? is it any good?

Talking about DSN while sponsored by Odoo... Captain Sisko wants a word

I one day hope top get my DSOC as well 🗿

Apollo 11 could transmit live TV audio and video without any issues. Even today, a reporter in China delays to respond to the anchor, but not the astronauts. Starting with the fact that Nixon could speak loud and clear (no delays by phone) with the astronauts, isn't it easier to use a modem?

Actually radio waves do not move atathe speed of light. They are slightly slower so over a short time the lasers would outstrip them for data transmission.

Was the video game graphic they were playing with the dinosaur jumping over cactuses from Cyberpunk 2077?

@samuelhulme8347

28 күн бұрын

It’s looks more like a 3D version of Chrome’s built in dinosaur game.

Ain't no way a breakthrough happened on my 27th birthday that's wild

0:56 Australia and Spain are big places, WHERE are these dishes located, the USA got a specific state.

More thematic like that would be werry informativ

Light breaks up with space, and not to mention atmosphere of planets

Or, quantum entanglement. If we can ever figure that out for real.

Since radio wave is technically a form a light, is wifi then technically a form of optical networking? 🤔

@gamecubeplayer

Ай бұрын

it could technically be but it's only half dublex

@samuelhulme8347

28 күн бұрын

@@gamecubeplayer”dubplex” …