Please do some basic research on Catholic teaching and also how to pronounce words correctly before making a public declaration.

I was a Catholic and became fully protestant when I was 14

@tagabulodchastityobedience7292

Жыл бұрын

Weak Catholics become Protestants, strong Protestants becomes Catholics..

@tomrudolsen6235

Жыл бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU 😇😊😉

@maryvalentine9090

Жыл бұрын

I am glad. God bless you as you follow Christ.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@maryvalentine9090 : But he's not following Christ.

@johnsteila6049

Жыл бұрын

I grew up Protestant and converted to Catholicism.

Great video!

I'm a Protestant, but my paternal grandmother is a Catholic

Faith plus works simply means that we must show our faith through love. Love is the most important factor here. We can have faith but if we don't have love we are nothing. We do good works because we believe and because we want to love everyone. Faith is shown when we love God above all. I can say I love God but if I willingly sin I am lying when I say I love god.

@PatrickSteil

Жыл бұрын

Actually it is more than that. To have Faith in our Lord is to Trust our Lord. Trusting Him means we obey Him, pray to Him, worship Him. All these are j necessary live into the New Covenant of Jesus. None of these are optional. They are all required for Salvation. Not in order to earn Salvation but to be in right communion and relationship with our Lord :)

@ung0liant

Жыл бұрын

Love of Christ leads to joy leads to obedience to the law. "He who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." "Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness"

I've always pronounced Catholicism with the C making the S sound. Never heard it said Catholikism before but maybe that's the right way

@kyrptonite1825

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not the c sounds like an s from what I know

@nancymueller8531

Жыл бұрын

Here it is badly mispronounced.

@johnsteila6049

Жыл бұрын

The narrator of this video obviously has terrible pronunciation but I’m sure he means well.

I am glad that this teaching is so simple that even a layman can understand it easily. May God bless you

This didn’t accurately describe a single Catholic doctrine…

@vincentpueyo9114

7 ай бұрын

True

@HandledToaster2

Ай бұрын

This channel is Protestant, and as such are extremely biased against catholicism. When comparing the two he always makes sure the Catholic side seems wrong, from both his words and the way he talks / facial expressions.

@seanmyers351

Ай бұрын

He literally quoted from the catholic sources…lol.

@KamiNoRanger99

11 сағат бұрын

I was a former Catholic, and I’m not sure where you are seeing his error.

The works of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior that work through us due to His grace received after baptism and true belief (repentance and loving obedience to His commands) are not the works of men! They are Christ's works working in and through us due to the salvation received (justification) and being received (sanctification). Faith without such works (of Christ) is dead! In Christ, Andrew

Thank you so much sir.

The word “Catholicism”, is pronounced, Cuth- al-oh-siz,mm.

I’ve never heard Catholicism pronounced that way.

Please Make A Video ; Whats Is The Different Chatolic & Orthodoc Tq

Learning about the Bible & Christianity never made me think that the Catholic church is wrong.

@tomrudolsen6235

Жыл бұрын

IF WE SHALL LOVE OUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS LIKE JESUS TAUGHT US ...WE MUST STOP DOING WRONG TOWARDS LITTLE CHILDREN WITHIN THE SO CALLED CHURCH 😇😉😊😎

@tomrudolsen6235

Жыл бұрын

SO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS WRONG DOING😉😎👍

@stuf159

Жыл бұрын

@@tomrudolsen6235, only delusional people type everything in all caps.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@tomrudolsen6235 : Are you saying that your Church doesn't do the same wrong thing to children too?. Yes, molesting children is very wrong but that don't mean only the Catholic Church do such thing. it happens to others too.

@tomrudolsen6235

Жыл бұрын

LOOK AT THE CATHOLIC ACTIONS, AND THE CATHOLICS WANT TO BE SAVED BY THEIR DOINGS ....THERE IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION HERE 👎🤔🤔😎

i love you man. you look like flint lockwood.

I'm Ex-Catholic, and now Baptist Christian

@KamiNoRanger99

11 сағат бұрын

Same!

It seems appeal to me in broader sense that protestant makes more sense than catholic

Thank you sir.

Can I please address the author of this video directly??

You might want to also explain how Eastern Orthodox beliefs are different from Protestants. They share a lot of the same beliefs as the Catholics, at the ones covered in this video, except for purgatory and papal infallibility.

Born and raised Protestant. Glad I left that false religion and joined Christ’s One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church!

@t0p_phoneix939

9 ай бұрын

Very based and Christ Pilled

@vincentpueyo9114

7 ай бұрын

Amen brother

@dumbboi4783

4 ай бұрын

Hello, based department?

@Mariaa_Hernandezz

2 ай бұрын

Amen 🙏

Catholics believe they must do good works such as taking mass to make it to heaven, whereas the protestants know salvation is a gift of grace and there’s nothing we can do to obtain our salvation/heavenly home.

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

its not that you have to do good works its that since you have faith and love and jesus and love for neighbor you do good works because you love them

@jaycie2213

Жыл бұрын

Faith without work (James 2:17) and Jesus said ''If ye love me, obey my commandments (John 14:15). That tells me that what we ''do'' really matters.

@mrmr7843

Жыл бұрын

A person who is justified by faith will have those good works in their life. These works are an outward show of your faith in Jesus. It’s not the works that save.. you do good works because you are saved and have faith in Christ

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

It's Jesus and the Bible that teaches that we are justify by our good works not by faith alone. James 2:24 New King James Version 24 *You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.* -------The Bible also says that there will be a JUDGEMENT at the end. And Jesus will NOT judge you on how much grace you've saved, or how much faith alone you have in the Bank. He will JUDGE everyone according to their good works or lack off. John 5:22 New King James Version 22 *For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,*

@Dean_the_Great

Жыл бұрын

We don’t affirm a works based salvation. All assumptions

“Sola Scriptura” is pronounced like, So-la Skrip-too-rah” With the accent on the second syllable in Scriptura. FYI

What about subjects that the bible does not teach about. The old testament says men must be circumcised. Jesus does not say if his follows must be. How do we know? Protestants also remove books from the bible (macabees) that encourage the importance of asking for the intervention of the saints.

@lesvosace602

11 ай бұрын

@indigofenrir7236 the episle of james contridicts pauls letter to the romans? Shall we remove pauls letters?

@lesvosace602

11 ай бұрын

@@indigofenrir7236 thank you for correcting that.

@FollowerOfTheLight2782

11 ай бұрын

​@@lesvosace602the Bible has 66 books.

@lesvosace602

11 ай бұрын

@@FollowerOfTheLight2782 73 friend

@FollowerOfTheLight2782

11 ай бұрын

@@lesvosace602 no 66

I never realized how hairy his arms were.

Catholics pray to dead humans to intervene on their behalf with Father God while protestants know that the bible says to the Father through Jesus only. As a former Roman Catholic raised in a Roman Catholic School reading scripture and questioning Roman Catholic apostasy resulted in receiving discipline and strapping. The priest could never answer my simple questions about their catholic traditions versus scripture.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

@MrBeastmania

6 ай бұрын

@@purgatoreanhe just said dead humans(ex Mary)

@purgatorean

6 ай бұрын

@@MrBeastmania yeah, but that didn't address the question. There are no unique protestant doctrines to be found anywhere in the entire Bible. He knows it and we know it. Biblically speaking, it is impossible to be saved without the Sacraments of the Catholic Church.

The Catholics have more traditional pageantry and God sits at the head of the church as the Pope but other than that they pretty much the same Sunday is still the Sabbath saith Constantine

if we were in the 1500s this wouldnt be a question we were all Catholics

@kaboom9081

Ай бұрын

Martin Luther didn't start a new branch of believers, he simply exposed his OWN church for distorting the Gospel for financial gain for 1500 years. There's always been born-again followers of Christ outside the "Italian Roman catholic church" which has nothing to do with the Gospel and everything with traditions.

wow ..no comments

@cato7778

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I had a whole speech planned for this but guess there's no point 😄

I am sorry but this does NOT describes Catholic doctrines accurately.

@kaboom9081

Ай бұрын

Catholicism mixes old testament Mosaic law with the new covenant under Christ so they can keep practicing their religious traditions. This is why Jesus angrily called the Pharisees snakes!

@kaboom9081

Ай бұрын

Probably because catholicism mixes old testament Mosaic law with the new covenant under Christ so they can keep practicing their religious traditions

@KamiNoRanger99

11 сағат бұрын

I am ex catholic and it seems legit to me

It is unacceptable superficial to want to talk concerning the difference between Catholics and Protestants in this manner, for there will not exist one form of the Protestantism but a large variety from established churches to the free churches. But even in the established churches of one type you will find a large variety, for example within the the diverse churches of the lutherian type: compare the Lutherian church of Finland with this one of Alsace! In contrast to the lutherian churches all the protestant churches in the tradition of Jean Calvin (Geneva) are very similiar, this worldwide.

For my Catholic friends: "In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My comforter, my all in all Here in the love of Christ I stand... ...No guilt in life, no fear in death This is the power of Christ in me From life's first cry to final breath Jesus commands my destiny No power of hell, no scheme of man Can ever pluck me from His hand Till He returns or calls me home Here in the power of Christ I'll stand" (excerpt from the hymn, "In Christ Alone")

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the same Christ that said: Matthew 16:18-19 New King James Version 18 *And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not [a]prevail against it.* 19 *And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”* ------ It's more like you believed the Bible alone over Christ Himself.

@johnsteila6049

Жыл бұрын

If you go into any Catholic Church, anywhere in the world. You will find the image of Christ in the center. There are people who hate God’s Church, that will make up lies against it. The truth is there, if you care to find it.

@CH3353N1NJ45

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsteila6049 And yet my main sticking point is the amount of things you put between man and the Cross. Well here's a harsh truth, the LORD in all his infinite ways and means requires no outside assistance.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@CH3353N1NJ45 : Christ gave us a Church. Without the Church you wouldn't have known that there was Christ 2000yrs ago.

@johnsteila6049

Жыл бұрын

@@CH3353N1NJ45 Well, your point doesn’t stick because there is no evidence to support it.:/

Going to heaven is kind of like being successful with LFC (Lake Forest College) women. Although it may appear like it, it has absolutely nothing to do with merit!

@kyrptonite1825

2 жыл бұрын

Catholics believe that our grace isn’t merited by anything, faith or works. It is a free gift, given to us by God, won by Christ the Lord. Like in the medieval work, Dante, it basically says God stood by us, we were a slave to our sin, but God left no stone unturned, trying to get us into heaven. And He delivered us. Catholics believe that you must be Baptized, to be saved, this is not a work, but a Gift that washes away sins, gives the Holy Spirit, and is the way to be born again, accepted into the Church, the Family of God. We also believe you must have faith, we must cooperate with God, and not mortally (gravely) sin, live a life free from sin, and if we do sin, repent and go to Confession, and we will be forgiven.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@kyrptonite1825going to confession does not take way sin.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@kyrptonite1825the thief on the Cross wasn't baptized more than likely, yet he went to heaven with Jesus.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : (going to confession does not take way sin.) ----- Yeah, it does..... repenting will NOT give you forgiveness either..... Clearly, you're pretending to repent.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : (the thief on the Cross wasn't baptized more than likely, yet he went to heaven with Jesus.) ----- Yes, he was. It's called Baptism of Desire: ----- The Thief expressed sorrow for his sins. He also expressed a desire to be with Jesus in His kingdom. So the good thief had a conversion of heart, and persevered in faith and good works to the end of his life, and Christ rewarded him with eternal salvation. Second, the Church has taught for 2,000 years that there are three ways to be baptized: *by water, by desire and by blood.* In this case, the good thief had a baptism of desire (by expressing his desire to be with Christ, even though it was presumably too late for a water baptism; this is also the reason why we can believe infants who die before baptism can go to heaven, based on the parents desire to baptize them, but for some intervening cause that prevented it). Martyrs who were not baptized in water and the Spirit, but martyred for Christ, are baptized by blood (i.e., the Holy Innocents). So water baptism is a normative, but not an absolute necessity for salvation. ----- Jesus says to him that he will be in paradise. It should also be noted that when Jesus uses the word "paradise," He did not mean heaven. Paradise, from the Hebrew "sheol" meant the realm of the righteous dead. This was the place of the dead who were destined for heaven, but who were captive until the Lord's resurrection. Hence, the good thief was destined for heaven because of his desire to be with Jesus.

Brothers. The church is the body of Chirst. Lets focus on Jesus, with biblical theology and not following groups. JESUS deserves all the glory. Not the pope, nor Martin luther but only God ❤

Neither Protestants nor Catholics are right. Yes, the Pope is not infallible, but how can you love your neighbor if you aren't helping those in need, which is the definition of good works?

So frustrating to watch so many people dragged into hell by the R.C. church. If you're Catholic, please take the time to read the book of Romans. You won't believe the freedom of Jesus that is taught there. You do not need the Catholic church to explain this book to you. Take charge and grab the grace and salvation that only Jesus offers you.

@richardkramer4076

Жыл бұрын

Your ignorance on Romans is palpable, and I beg to differ with you on needing help to understand Romans. Competent bible scholars say that Romans DOES NOT say what Protestants think it says. You should listen to them....I give two references later. BTW, who gave you the authority to determine who goes to hell? That decision is for God alone. You might want to take the time to read my more detailed response in this thread on why Luther got it horribly wrong, starting his own false, unauthorized man-made traditions of sola scriptura and sola fide. Both are easily refuted in the bible for anyone with any skill at all of interpreting the bible. And it is symptomatic of Protestant arrogance to think that all of Christianity got it wrong for 1500 years until Luther "enlightened" everyone. Common sense alone should tell someone how foolish that is. The bible actually warns that Paul is difficult to understand and Peter accurately predicts the coming Protestant confusion. You might want to take the time to heed 2 Peter 3:15-16, where he warns that "Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given to him (in context, speaking of how to obtain salvation), speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction." Mental instability was a hallmark of Martin Luther, and he led millions to his false teachings. Let me recommend two books to read from scholars with PhDs...former Protestant pastor Dr. John Bergsma wrote "Stunned by Scripture: How the Bible Made Me Catholic." Another great book for exposing Protestant errors is a book by Patrick Madrid, called "Surprised by Truth...11 Converts Give the Biblical and Historical Reasons for Becoming Catholic." It is so full of excellent information on the truth about the RCC, and how 11 staunch Protestants overcame the propaganda they were taught about the RCC to realize they were wrong. It takes intellectual honesty to thoroughly examine opposing viewpoints from competent sources, and these examples saw the truth of the RCC, and not the propaganda you see in this video.

@pcwillis7866

Жыл бұрын

i’ve read it and i’m still catholic🙂.

@vincentpueyo9114

7 ай бұрын

​@@pcwillis7866same

Is this view botting

Catholics or protestants? My andwer is Jesus

My whole family is Catholic... but soon I am going to be the first Anabaptist ever. I have had many doubts about Catholic dogmas... but through Bible reading I have found answers... God be with you! Saludos from Chile! 🇨🇱

@thecatechumen

9 ай бұрын

Don’t leave the Church that Jesus Christ established

@TheMegalion

9 ай бұрын

@@thecatechumen The one that killed many innocent people??? No thanks.

@sethvernon6828

8 ай бұрын

@@thecatechumen Jesus didn't establish any organization. Jesus only brought grace to those that believe in Him. Faith in an organization means you serve more than one master.

@salachenkoforley7382

8 ай бұрын

@@sethvernon6828 : Yeah He did. ------Have you actually READ the Bible?. Are you one of 'em people that only read the bits that you want and leave the rest?. Matthew 16:18-19 Modern English Version 18 And *I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church,* and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” ------It says right there in the Matthew 16 that Jesus founded ONE, just ONE CHURCH. Jesus did NOT gave you the Bible either. Ephesians 5:22-32 Modern English Version Wives and Husbands 22 Wives, be submissive to your own husbands as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, *just as Christ is the head and Savior of the church, which is His body.* 24 But as the church submits to Christ, so also let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, *just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it,* 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 and that *He might present to Himself a glorious church,* not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing, but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 In this way men ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, *just as the Lord cares for the church.* 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh.”[a] 32 This is a great mystery, but *I am speaking about Christ and the church.* ------Paul says that Christ loved His church more than your understanding of the gospels. -----Did I mention that Paul was referring to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church?. 1 Timothy 3:15 Modern English Version 15 but if I am delayed, you might know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, *which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.* -----Paul also says that The Catholic Church is the Church of the LIVING GOD, the PILLAR and FOUNDATION of the truth. YOU CANNOT ARGUED WITH THE BIBLE THAT YOU BELIEVED TO BE THE WORD OF GOD now, Can you?.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

The Mass of Catholic is not a voodoo thing that men created. It was Jesus Himself established the church. Remember he gave the keys and authority to Saint Peter. so he and Saint Paul established the church Rome. Saint Peter was the first Pope, meaning The Authority. The center of all christianity. That is why the Vatican is in Rome. The problem with Protestants is it was established by a mere human: Martin Luther, not Jesus. Protestant doesnt have any center of authority, so what happened? they crumbled into pieces. they become shattered into different branches. In the end, the Catholic Church remained strong withstanding brutal attacks for 2000 years. And true to Jesus' word, it will withstand Hell.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Amen brother.

This is so ridiculously partial. “Roman Catholic tradition” (instead of oral tradition) “doctrine of purgatory” “worship of Mary” all misnomers. There is no doctrine of purgatory in Catholicism. They don’t worship Mary (adoration and worship are not the same). The Catholic Church organized the various letters and gospels in circulation in the 2nd century AD into the Bible, based largely upon oral tradition and the supposed guidance of the Holy Spirit. Where in the Bible does it talk about the Trinity? Where in the Bible does it say that scripture is inerrant? (Especially when you can find discrepancies through the text? …in Romans 10, Paul quotes Isaiah 65, but if you look at Isaiah 65 he is mistaken (or the text changed somehow)). Anyway, this oversimplifies differences in a way that makes Catholicism seem insane. Believe this guy at your own risk.

@jonf.3532

Жыл бұрын

“All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equipped for every good work.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭ I would think that “God-breathed” or “inspired by God” is pretty clear it would be inerrant… You’re correct in that there are certain inconsistencies that mostly come from translations, though the inconsistencies NEVER mask or take away from the true gospel. I would recommend listening to Frank Turek as he covers the inerrancy of the Bible quite well. With love, and God bless!

@SK-fd8kw

Жыл бұрын

@@jonf.3532 Thank you for the thoughtful response. I have never found Turek persuasive. Respectfully, you are using a letter that Paul wrote to Timothy before the Bible existed to argue that the particular scriptures that the Catholic Church curated into the canonical scriptures over the course of the subsequent 100 years are inerrant.

@SK-fd8kw

Жыл бұрын

@@indigofenrir7236 I'm not a Catholic, you presumptuous parrot.

@SK-fd8kw

Жыл бұрын

You cannot argue that something that is purported to have been written by Paul of Tarsus (it's pretty clear that Paul did not write 2 Tim, btw) in a letter to one of his congregations 100 years before the Catholic Church determined which gospels, letters, and other lit would constitute the new testament is supporting the inerrancy of the new testament. The new testament is riddled with errors, which you overlook. Many of the things you take for granted as being "Christian" are not found in the bible. You read your desired eschatology and soteriology into the texts.

@SK-fd8kw

Жыл бұрын

@@indigofenrir7236 all you’re doing here is surfacing your own presumptions. You have learned biased and rather bigoted stories about early Christian history and are parroting them. There’s no point in arguing with a person like you. I cited some examples of problems in the NT text and you simply assume that they cannot be errors because you believe God somehow wrote or assured the NT is errant. If everything you utter reflects that assumption you cannot notice the errors. Was Jesus born in Bethlehem or Nazareth? In Matthew, when it’s said that Jesus was from Nazareth in fulfillment of the scripture, what passage from scripture is being referred to? Scholars have searched the entire Old Testament and cannot find any reference to the promised messiah being from Nazareth. There are other examples like this, but you’ve never thought about them or noticed them because you assume that the gospels must be inerrant. Your faith is misplaced - if you are a thoughtful person, you eventually will start to notice these problems with your scriptural assumptions and you will start I have doubts about everything, becoming agnostic or atheist. Your journey has merely begun.

Rome Sweet Home

Excellent! Protestants-1 Catholics-0. Game over!

@Healthfocus101

Жыл бұрын

With what reasons

so you can have faith and be a murderer but still be saved LOL who would believe this??

@lambandwolf1

Жыл бұрын

Protestants 😂

When the Catholic Church has to rewrite the Bible, and continue to say they are the original and one true church, this is a mighty large red flag. Christ’s church are the Body of Christ, not a denomination. Right out if the gate, Catholic doctrine is so grossly incorrect.

@johngedicks6535

Жыл бұрын

re-write the Bible? interesting... I'm not sure that it was the CAtholics that re-wrote the Bible.

@kellyanne7225

Жыл бұрын

@@johngedicks6535 Hello, John! Meaning that the book of Revelation 22:18 warned strongly, with an eternal curse, against anyone who added or took away from His Book. The Catholics, Mormons, and JWs all took God’s word, plagiarized some of it, twisted some of it, took some of it away, and also added their own version calling it the Bible. The catholics added the Apocrypha much later (as it was missing in the OT scripts and completely rejected when the OT was canonized). This is such a blatant abuse of God’s sacred, precious Word from all three religions. But they’re false, so of course, misuse should be expected.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

But the Apostles who wrote the New Testament are All Catholics.... and Christianity did not fall from heaven and landed in the Bible, It is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, Hence the reason why the Old Testament is part of the Christian Bible that the Catholic Gave you. (Christ’s church are the Body of Christ, not a denomination.) ------ Jesus founded ONE church on the Rock of Peter in Matthew 16:18-19 Matthew 16:18-19 New International Version 18 And *I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” ------ The question I must ask is : How can you called yourselves the Body of Christ when you're REJECTING the Church He founded?.

@johngedicks6535

Жыл бұрын

@@kellyanne7225 I'm not exactly sure what to say about the adding things to the Bible. I'm rpetty sure the Catholics were the first people to arrange the Bible in the order we have now and all the following Bible's that protestants have stem from ours. Also the Catholic Church spacifically condemnned the apocrypha very spacifically and said NOT to add them to the Bible and rebuked any Catholic who did so. I know that the Protestants do label some things as "Apocrypha" which the Catholic Church does not consider as Apocrypha so that may be a misunderstanding. I am curious to which books do you say that the Catholics added which were of the Apocrypha? Also I would just like to bring up the fact that it was Martin Luther who changed the bible by adding words and removing entire books from the Bible. He is the original person to break off from the church and found protestantism so I am wondering what you would have to say about that...?

@kellyanne7225

Жыл бұрын

@@salachenkoforley7382 I find it amusing that you’re using all of the buzz phrases that Catholics use to support their claims. You think you’re the first Catholic I’ve come across with these arguments? Not even close, my friend! The Catholic Church claims to have given us the scripture, but this can’t possibly be true because the Bible doesn’t support ANY Catholic doctrine. The Apostles were not Catholic and there is zero proof of this. You are repeating what you have been told, not what you have researched. The scripture in Matthew said THIS rock, not Peter, YOU are the rock. Peter got a new name which wasn’t unusual in biblical history especially with the patriarchs, but Jesus used metaphors constantly and there is no reason to think otherwise in this verse. A metaphor is obvious, while “Peter the Pope” is outrageous. The loosed and bound in heaven verse was referring to all of the disciples as they were all given the power to forgive sins when they were sent out. Jesus was speaking to all of His disciples at that time, not just Peter. Look closer at the context. Catholics get so focused on words that you fail to see the rest of the verse. The Catholic Church is also famous for twisting scripture, taking it out of context, and taking credit that doesn’t belong to them, such as claiming scripture was theirs and they gave it. Scripture belongs to God, and to God alone. The Bible was completed in 70 AD and since then the Catholic Church has added to it at the Council of Trent, brought in pagan worship of just about everything but Christ, and made claims to scripture that aren’t there, just to name only a few atrocities. I’m having a dialogue with another person as he is trying to convince me that Mary’s children were Joseph’s and not hers. When this didn’t work, he changed his story entirely to “siblings meant cousins”. He can’t, you can’t, prove Catholic dogma is true. Your teachings came long after the Bible was completed and your teachings went against the scripture you supposedly gave.

As a former atheist God led me to be a protestant. The catholic faith seems way too performative, superficial and greedy, not to mention corrupt. No, thanks.

@KamiNoRanger99

11 сағат бұрын

Ex catholic here, yes you are pretty accurate. I do think there may be some Catholics who are genuinely saved, but if they start reading the Bible, they’ll see there are many false teachings in Catholicism. It’s tough because we worship the same triune God. My grandma was a devout Catholic, but she always appeared to love God very much, so I hope she was saved but the truth is I won’t know til I die myself (or get raptured if that’s a thing). Wherever she is now, I have to trust God in His judgment. Same goes for my other grandparents regarding their salvation and eternity. I’d love for them to be in heaven but I just don’t know if they are. On a lighter note, I love hearing from former atheists or those of other beliefs who got saved!

Sola Gratia, grace untamed, Unearned and free, in love proclaimed, No works of ours can merit grace, It's God's gift, we can't erase. By faith alone, we're justified, In Christ alone, our hope resides, Through grace alone, we're sanctified, By Scripture's truth, our souls abide. Sola Fide, our trust complete, In Christ's atonement, our souls meet, Not by deeds, but faith sincere, Salvation's promise drawing near.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

IS JESUS ORTHODOX? PROTESTANT ? OR CATHOLIC ? ....NEITHER ...BUT HE IS THE WAY TO THE ONLY TRUE GOD ! 😉

You got quite a bit wrong

I’m a Protestant but it is clear you have no idea of the actual teachings of the Catholic Church. Why not try to bring people together instead of bringing falsehoods that don’t do any good to anyone?

Unless Jesus is revealed to you directly by God (Matthew 16:17) you will remain under the bondage of man-made religion. Catholicism mixes old testament Mosaic law with the new covenant under Christ so they can keep practicing their religious traditions. This is why Jesus angrily called the Pharisees YOU SNAKES! They valued their laws/traditions more than a personal relationship with Christ.

Both are on the smooth road to hell. We must trust, believe and receive salvation by Jesus shed blood ONLY!!! All other is anti-Christ.

Protestant was born in the 1500 AD out of protest against the Catholic. The Catholic Church can be traced back to Jesus who gave the first Pope keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, thus established his Church. The authority of the Catholic Church put together through the Bible. The Protestant effect are now responsible for the thousands of different denominations that have different interpretation of the Bibble.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was Jewish! He was never Roman Catholic. The most important about the Protestant Reformation was to bring the basic gospel into the hands of the ordinary people in their own language and remember only the Elite spoke and read Latin at that time and Jesus died for all not only for the rich who tried to buy their way into Heaven by indulgances. Thanks to the Reformers access to Bibles in many languages became available over time. Surely that was not a bad thing and brought democracy to ordinary Christians. Jesus never told a man to run the Church on earth as he gave that job to the Holy Spirit his true Vicar on Earth. Please please read your Roman Bible. Btw most Bibles say roughly the same thing as I have many different versions including a Catholic version and didn't see much difference between it and the KJV and NIV and others. God bless you Vena and do read up about the Reformation it might surprise you.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

Do you agree with buying indulgances then? Jesus gave up His life freely and shed His Blood and you can't charge for the free gift of salvation. I pray God will open your eyes to the truth as the RCC has led so many sincere people of faith astray. The RCC didn't write the Bible orginally they only translated it and the Jews wrote the Old Testament. The Reformers had to protest against the power and corruption of the Vatican in 1517 as they were selling salvation for the highest price through indulgances. I will agree that some protestants are very liberal in relation to abortion, but we as Evangelicals do not condone abortion at any stage nor gay marriage nor euthensia I can assure you. Yes the Church was known as the catholic (universal) Church, but they made errors along the way and the refoemwrs we're just trying to correct those errors but the RCC just wouldn't listen to them so they had to go according to their conscience and the Word of God and sadly it led to a split. Many were killed for this too. Dear Catholic I also was deceived by the RCC until I start reading the Bible and I said you must be born again John 3:3/7.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : (Jesus was Jewish! He was never Roman Catholic.) ----- But Jesus FOUNDED the Catholic Church. The Church belongs to Him. And if you're NOT a Catholic then you're AGAINST His Church. Matthew 12:30 30 *He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.* ---- Protestantism CLEARLY proved these words of Jesus. You're SCATTERED all over the place because you're AGAINST HIM and His Church. (The most important about the Protestant Reformation was to bring the basic gospel into the hands of the ordinary people in their own language) ----- Actually, Protestantism means *PROTESTING AGAINST THE CHURCH THAT CHRIST GAVE US* . It Changes and INVENTED False doctrines that neither Jesus or Apostles Preached. 1. Sola Scriptura, 2. Sola Fide, 3.The Sinner's Prayer. 4. Once Saved, Always Saved, 5. Born again--- meaning asking Jesus into your heart to be your personal Lord and Savior and 6. Your 16th century form of worship. YOU CANNOT FIND THESE FALSE DOCTRINES IN THE SAME BIBLE THAT YOU'RE USING TO DEFEND PROTESTANTISM.... Isn't that ironic?. ----- As a result of Protestantism, it gave birth to at least 51,000 different denominations of Protestant Churches around the world today. How can you say that you're following the Bible when you disagree with what the Mormons, The Baptists, The Southern Baptist, The Black Baptist, The SDAs, The Baptist SDAs, The JWs etc etc.... (Jesus never told a man to run the Church on earth as he gave that job to the Holy Spirit his true Vicar on Earth. ) ----- And again, you're SHOWING your ignorance and arrogance of Scriptures. Jesus NEVER Told anyone to WRITE a Bible, whos' authority that GAVE you the Bible?.

@wanderingoutlaw2083

Жыл бұрын

Stfu your church doesn't have authority read your Bible

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@wanderingoutlaw2083 : (Stfu your church doesn't have authority read your Bible) ----- Where in the Bible does it say "READ THE BIBLE"?. ----- Did Jesus said to read the Bible or you're telling us to read the Bible?. ----- Who should we listen to Jesus or you and your 16th century FALSE BELIEFS?. ----- And the Bible does say that my CHURCH IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. Matthew 18:15-17 Modern English Version The Brother Who Sins 15 “Now if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, then take with you one or two others, that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 *If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.* ------ My Church has the FINAL AUTHORITY in any matter regarding Christianity.

I was Catholic but today I am becoming Protestant

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

also catholics worships idols such as statue of Mary, and other saints.

if you love God and love your neibghbor than you are going to heaven

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

You must be born again and repent and be baptized

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger that too. but loving God is loving Jesus as they are the same person

@ym8468

Жыл бұрын

@@spiddyman0079 yea but someone would love God when they are born again, so the most crucial is being born again

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : Born again is Baptism: John 3:3-5 King James Version 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.* 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.*

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@salachenkoforley7382 yes, but you have to repent first.

roman catholism teaches Jesus' finished work on the cross is not enough to save us sinners

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

They believe they will become gods, put Mary equal status to GOD, and teach Muslims will be saved.

@johngedicks6535

Жыл бұрын

I'm sad you believe that. That is very not true (obviously speaking as a Catholic myself lol). WE do not believe that we will become gods. No where in our teaching is that ever said. Also we do NOT put Mary equal to the status of God. WE simple venerate and adore her. VEry different thatn WORSHIP her. That would go against the 1 commandment directly. And about the Muslims, we cannot say whether anybody will either go to heaven or hell for that is up to them and God alone

@AvaNoe

Жыл бұрын

@@johngedicks6535 I’m sad YOU partake of a group that teaches/believes this nonsense. I’m only sharing what your CCC teaches. Catechism teaches one can become a god: CCC 460, “For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.” “The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.” Mary is prayed to according to CCC 2679; she sits at the right hand of Christ (Pope Pius X, 1835-1914, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14); is Advocate, Helper, (CCC 969); the mother of the members of Christ (CCC 963); Queen over all things (CCC 966); brings eternal life by her intercession (CCC 969) and the list goes on. Lastly, your CCC teaches that the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day,” (CCC 841).

@johngedicks6535

Жыл бұрын

@@AvaNoe (Catechism teaches one can become a god: CCC 460) This does sound very interesting but in context it is talking about the nature of Christ. It states that, because Christ becaem man, he made the nature of man and the nature of God the same. NOT you and me as individuals but our nature. Also that quote which you stated which is in the CCC is by St. Thomas Aquinas and he meant it in the context which i have laid out. (About Mary) Everything you said right there is true and I do not deny it. But notice NOWHERE in the CCC does it say that we "worship" her. That is one fo the things Protestants misunderstand about Catholics. We do not worship her but Venerate her. "she sits at the right hand of Christ" This statement does not place her at the level of God in anyway but shows that Christ puts her in a honorable position. "The Mother of the Members of Christ" We Clearly see that Christ makes her the mother of the whole Church when Jesus is on the Cross. "When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, her said to his mother,'Woman, behold your son!' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold, your mother!'..." (John 19:26-27). When Jesus said that He was making Mary the mother of the entire Church and putting the Church members in her care. (About the Muslims) I dont knwo enough about this topic so I cant say much. I do know though that if a person lives a good and holy life to the best of their abilities that Christ may have mercy on them. but again we really cannot say whether someone will either go to heaven or hell.

@Drew32296

Жыл бұрын

@@johngedicks6535 so why do you guys pray to her? That’s idolatry. Pray to the Father ONLY in the name of Jesus. Mary also isn’t sinless

5:47 Sounds like something the Devil would Want you to Bealeve

I’ll make it simple the difference between Protestants and Catholic Catholics loves and honor the mother of GOD..while Protestants believe she’s nobody.. I’m glad I’m Catholic..

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

Amen. I just don't understand how Protestants bragged about loving Jesus and at the same time Belittling His mother.... I find that very INSULTING....

@trevorbilliot2625

Жыл бұрын

Catholics worship the mother of God while Christians worship God. God alone is worthy of worship. Mary was a great woman of faith but she wasn't sinless

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorbilliot2625 : IF Catholics worship Mary like you Falsely believed then that would be a violation of the 1st commandment, Which we don't. ----- Mary is a CREATION OF GOD and therefore should not be worship. She is the mother of God. ----- Just because we prayed to Mary and the Saints don't mean that we worship them. Prayers to Mary is to Honor, Veneration, Repetition and Devotions. ----- Not every prayer is a form of worship like Protestants believed. Your form of worship is NOT worship at all. It was invented in the 16th century by Martin Luther and the Reformers, and believe me, you CANNOT find it in the Bible. Reading the Bible, singing a few hymns and a 3hour sermon is NOT a Christian worship. That is a Protestant invention of a worship. ----- The ONLY true and Biblical form of worship of the Judea Christian God is the Celebration of the Mass. It requires a Priest and an Altar. I believed you have NEITHER.

@trevorbilliot2625

Жыл бұрын

@@salachenkoforley7382 If Mary is sinless then she is worthy of your worship. If you believe that Mary was sinless yet still hold that you don't worship her, that's a contradiction. Mary is definitely a creation of God and she was just an ordinary, repentant girl before she was chosen to bear Jesus. Having sin to repent of. We know from Ephesians 2:3 that we all were once by nature children of wrath and we have no reason to think Mary was an exception to this. The NT goes to great lengths to explain the sinlessness of Christ so I'd expect if anyone else were sinless it would also go to great lengths to explain their sinlessness considering the entire rest of humanity is sinful but we get no such detail for anyone. Any simple explanation is that no one else was sinless. John 14:13-14 "Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it." We are meant to pray to Jesus and to God through Jesus because and only because Jesus has the authority to grant what we ask. Mary does not have that authority. Nowhere are we told to pray to her and nowhere are we told that she has the ability to answer our prayers. Currently, she is an identical situation as with all the other saints in heaven, in God's presence. I don't know how you think Christians worship but singing, reading the Word and hearing it taught is not the full extent of worship. We present our bodies as living sacrifices and seek to do HIs will, not our own, in all areas of life. Community, Church, Discipleship, Work, Parenting, Education... All areas of life are able to be performed in the Spirit and as acts of worship because we are empowered by the Holy Spirit. We are fanatic about our minds being renewed so that we can be transformed from our sinful ways and conformed to the image of Christ. We seek to do what is good and acceptable and perfect. That is our spiritual worship. I wouldn't bother claiming that the only true form of worship is the celebration of the Catholic Mass unless you have a verse. There are plenty of verses that show how worship is to be conducted and nowhere do we see that physical Catholic church as a necessary component in any one of them. Worship to God only requires a mediator between us who is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5) but even if it did require a priest and an altar, Jesus is our priest (Hebrews 3:1, 4:14-15, 5:5, 6:20, 7:15-17, 7:21-24, 7:26, all of chapter 8, just all of the book of Hebrews really) and the cross is our altar to which I can kneel, repent and be healed (1 Peter 2:24) Keep in mind I'm not a "Protestant," I'm a Christian. I'm not Catholic either because Catholics aren't Christians. The sad truth is that the early Catholic church used to be awesome but slowly over time it drifted until Luther's time when it preached something very contrary to the gospel and that led to the Protestant Reformation. Genuine Christians have been stuck being attacked from all sides. We've been attacked in the OT and the NT, by worldly people and by wolves in sheep's clothing. But we have a comfort: “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you."

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorbilliot2625 : (If Mary is sinless then she is worthy of your worship. If you believe that Mary was sinless yet still hold that you don't worship her, that's a contradiction.) ---- One of the best part of being a Protestant like yourself is that you can make up any FAIRYTALE and called it Christianity. Nor Jesus or the Apostles that He appointed EVER preached worshipping anyone who is sinless. Adam and Eve were also Sinless before they fall into to sin. If you wanna worship them too, then that's fine by me. (Having sin to repent of.) ----- Mary cannot sin according to the Bible: Job 14:4 New King James Version 4 *Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? No one!* ------ The Bible says that No one can bring a clean thing out of the UNCLEAN. If Mary was a sinner then Jesus would also be born a sinner. Luke 1:28 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: *Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.* ----- "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you." These are the words spoken by God and delivered to us by the angel Gabriel (who is a messenger of God). Thus, when Catholics recite this verse while praying the Rosary, they are uttering the words of God. ----- also, the phrase *"full of grace"* is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene." This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of grace from a past event. Mary is not just "highly favored." She has been perfected in grace by God. "Full of grace" is only used to describe one other person - Jesus Christ in John 1:14. John 1:14 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father,) *full of grace and truth.* ----- I have no idea why you quoted Ephesians 2:3 in support of your FALSE Biblical misunderstanding. Ephesians 2:3 New English Translation 3 among whom all of us also formerly lived out our lives in the cravings of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath even as the rest… (The NT goes to great lengths to explain the sinlessness of Christ so I'd expect if anyone else were sinless it would also go to great lengths to explain their sinlessness considering the entire rest of humanity is sinful but we get no such detail for anyone.) 😂😂😂 ------ If you believed Jesus is/was sinless then His mother would have to be too given that He came into the world through Her.

i am a roman catholic and i rarely go to confession. i belive it is a good thing to go tho. Jesus is the only way to God. love your God and love your neighbor. also you forgot to mention that roman catholics believe that the bread we eat and wine we drink ( hopefully we continue this after covid) are actually the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

Well sadly they are not. Jesus only died once

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger why does it matter if he only died once?

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

i am paraphrasing but i believe that it says that if you do not eat of this flesh or drink of this blood you will not have eternal life.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@spiddyman0079 ?

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger not eternal life but no life within you! Amen!

I know many Catholics and try to tell them they are being duped but they won't hear it! They won't look at God's word to see for themselves.

@Drew32296

Жыл бұрын

The spirit of antichrist keeps them out of God’s word. Sad

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

@@Drew32296 Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

@the-hollywood-dog-says-6072

7 ай бұрын

@@purgatorean Sacraments and worship of Mary is a small start.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

@@the-hollywood-dog-says-6072 Got anything from the Bible?

And speaking of SALVATION: We hope for Salvation: It is NOT guaranteed like Protestants FALSELY BELIEVED: Just because Jesus died on the Cross for our sins don't mean that your sins are forgiven right away so that you can keep on sinning until you die. 1 Corinthians 3:15 English Standard Version 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though *he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.* ------ if works are unnecessary for salvation as many Protestants believe, then why is a man saved (not just rewarded) through fire by a judgment of his works? Matthew 10:22 English Standard Version 22 and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. *But the one who endures to the end will be saved.* Matthew 24:13 English Standard Version 13 *But the one who endures to the end will be saved.* Mark 13:13 English Standard Version 13 And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. *But the one who endures to the end will be saved.* ------ Jesus taught that we must endure to the very end to be saved. If this is true, then how can Protestants believe in the erroneous teaching of "Once saved, always saved?" If salvation occurred at a specific point in time when we accepted Jesus as personal Lord and Savior, there would be no need to endure to the end. We would already be saved. Matthew 25:31-46 English Standard Version The Final Judgment 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” ------ Jesus' teaching on the separation of the sheep from the goats is based on the works that were done during their lives, not just on their acceptance of Christ as Savior. In fact, this teaching even demonstrates that those who are ultimately saved do not necessarily have to know Christ. Also, we don’t accept Christ; He accepts us. God first makes the decision to accept us before we could ever accept Him. Luke 14:14 English Standard Version 14 *and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you.* *For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”* ------ Jesus says we are repaid for the works we have done at the resurrection of the just. Our works lead to salvation. Hebrews 9:12 English Standard Version 12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, *thus securing an eternal redemption.* ------- Christ's sacrifice secured our redemption, but redemption is not the same thing as salvation. We participate in and hope for salvation. Our hope in salvation is a guarantee if we are faithful to Christ to the end. But if we lose hope and fail to persevere, we can lose our salvation. Thus, by our own choosing (not by God's doing), salvation is not a certainty. While many Protestant churches believe in the theology of "once saved, always saved," such a novel theory is not found in Scripture and has never been taught by the Church. Romans 10:1 English Standard Version 10 Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they *may be saved.* ------- Paul prays that the Jews "may be saved." Why pray if it's guaranteed? Further, why pray unless you can mediate? Romans 8:24 English Standard Version 24 *For in this hope we were saved.* Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? ------- this "hope" of salvation that Paul writes about is unnecessary if salvation is guaranteed. If salvation is assured, then why hope? Galatians 5:5 English Standard Version 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves *eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.* ------- for through the Spirit by faith we wait for the "hope" (not the certainty) of righteousness. Philippians 3:11 New King James Version 11 if, by any means, *I may attain* to the resurrection from the dead. ------ Paul shares Christ's sufferings so that "if possible" he may attain resurrection. Paul does not view his own resurrection as a certainty. Colossians 1:5 Lexham English Bible 5 because *of the hope reserved for you in heaven,* which you have heard about beforehand in the word of truth, the gospel, ------ Paul refers to the "hope" (not guarantee) that Christ laid up for us in heaven. 1 Thessalonians 5:8 Lexham English Bible 8 But because[a] we are of the day, we must be sober, by putting on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet *the hope of salvation,* ------- we must put on the helmet of "hope" (not of certainty) of salvation. 2 Thessalonians 2:16 Lexham English Bible 16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal encouragement and *good hope by grace,* ------ the Lord Jesus and God our Father who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good "hope" through grace. Titus 1:2 Lexham English Bible 2 *in the hope of eternal life* which God, who does not lie, promised before eternal ages, ------- Paul says that he is in the "hope" (not the certainty) of eternal life. Paul knows that his hope is a guarantee if he perseveres, but his ability to choose sin over God makes his attainment of eternal life less than an absolute certainty until it is actually achieved.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

You know very very little about Protestants. No, they don't believe in once saved always saved.

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : I know you don't know almost nothing about Protestantism. This FALSE doctrine of "Once Saved, Always Saved" was INVENTED by John Calvin in the 16th century and people still believed this fairytale after all these years.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@salachenkoforley7382 I don't agree with everything John Calvin said actually.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@salachenkoforley7382 I am not Protestant but born again and an evangelical

@salachenkoforley7382

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnetteMurphyger : ( I don't agree with everything John Calvin said actually.) ----- Just because you don't agreed with John Calvins' False teachings don't mean Once Saved, Always Saved doesn't exist, I am dealing with a Pastor online in a different blog about "Once Saved, Always Saved" and how UNBIBLICAL it is. ----- He's ignoring me now given that I totally demolished his Once Saved, Always Saved fairytales from the Bible and History.

Catholics have history! Jesus gave the rights ! And thus the rights are practiced . Simple very simple . Listen to the master , the one and only . If he said it is so , it is so .

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to disappoint you, but Jesus was actually Jewish.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

What rights?

@bc9629

Жыл бұрын

Like the rights Jesus Christ gave to apostle Peter !

@bc9629

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You and your band weren't there !

@AnnetteMurphyger

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The Master was Jewish actually

The bible never said that it alone was sufficient. That's just Protestant man-made tradition.

@omnione12

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I'm not sure where you are going with this, but Corinthians 12:9 "His grace was sufficient" / Ephesians 2:8-10 No matter what works you do, its all in vain if you don't accept Jesus. Thats all the bible ask you to actually do. You cannot put a random sinner in a position of Christ to speak on your behalf or pass judgment on you, basically you are saying that God values the Catholics opinion on the same level as the son he sent to die for your sins. But lets entertain the other ignored things that are not in the Bible - There is no purgatory, only heaven or hell That's just Catholic man-made tradition - Baptism, catholic believe if they sprinkle water they have the right to allow passage to heaven without a persons accep byv ting Jesus -That's just Catholic man-made tradition - Praying to subordinate figures as if they had authority over life and death- Mary was not your savior nor a person of authority - That's just Catholic man-made tradition - Sin forgiveness - You need to chant some approved line from the church to be forgiving of sin- Hail Mary .... That's just Catholic man-made tradition I can keep going. I aint protestant, but Catholics are riddled in holes and lives in a very dark world. Be careful about the path you take, you may never get a chance to correct it

@bridgefin

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@@omnione12 You: basically you are saying that God values the Catholics opinion on the same level as the son he sent to die for your sins. Me: The ONLY thing I said was; "The bible never said that it alone was sufficient. That's just Protestant man-made tradition." Nothing you said rebutted that claim. Man's opinion is useless is it is not God's truth whether they are Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Seventh Day Adventist. You: - There is no purgatory, only heaven or hell That's just Catholic man-made tradition Me: The canon of the bible is also Catholic Tradition. If Catholic tradition is wrong on the canon then you have no bible. And if it is right on the canon by what reasoning is it automatically wrong on doctrines? You: - Baptism, catholic believe if they sprinkle water they have the right to allow passage to heaven without a persons accep byv ting Jesus Me: That is wrong and a lie. You: - Praying to subordinate figures as if they had authority over life and death- Mary was not your savior nor a person of authority - That's just Catholic man-made tradition Me: Also a lie. You: - Sin forgiveness - You need to chant some approved line from the church to be forgiving of sin- Hail Mary .... That's just Catholic man-made tradition Me: Another lie. You: I can keep going. I aint protestant, but Catholics are riddled in holes and lives in a very dark world. Me: You sure have a lot to say for someone who does not understand Catholicism. I make it a point to never debate aspects of nuclear fusion since I know nothing about it. I suggest you do the same with Catholicism or else, learn the topic and THEN debate it.

@salachenkoforley7382

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@@omnione12 : (Corinthians 12:9 "His grace was sufficient") ----- But It is the GRACE of God alone that we are SAVED. It was His Grace that His Only Son died for our sins. (Ephesians 2:8-10 No matter what works you do, its all in vain if you don't accept Jesus. Thats all the bible ask you to actually do. ) ------ NO!, This is you NOT understanding Scriptures here: There are TWO types of Works in this Ephesians 2:8-10 that you quoted: Ephesians 2:8-10 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 *not by works,* so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, *created in Christ Jesus to do good works,* which God prepared in advance for us to do. ----- verse 9 says that we're NOT saved by works so that no one can boast: Paul was REFERRING to the "WORKS OF THE LAW" which was the requirement for Salvation in the Old Covenant. It is Now SUPERCEEDED by the New Covenant in the Body, Blood and Divinity of Christ by doing "GOOD WORKS/WORK IN GRACE" as stated in verse 10. *created in Christ Jesus to do good works,* ( basically you are saying that God values the Catholics opinion on the same level as the son he sent to die for your sins. ) ------ But the Catholic Church does NOT belong to Catholics, *IT BELONGS TO GOD HIMSELF.* Matthew 16:18-19 New International Version 18 And *I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 *I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”* 1 Timothy 3:15 New International Version 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, *which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.* ------ It says right there in your Bible that The Catholic Church is the Church of the Living God, The PILLAR and FOUNDATION of the TRUTH. Most certainly not your 21st century interpretation of the Bible. And Jesus FOUNDED ONE CHURCH NOT Churches. (But lets entertain the other ignored things that are not in the Bible) ----- What a great idea: Why don't we start with : *WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT EVERYTHING CHRISTIANITY MUST BE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE OR IT'S NOT CHRISTIANITY?.* This is you and Protestants ADDING your False beliefs to the Bible. You're ALREADY ignored this False Protestant presupposition of "Sola Scriptura or Bible alone". ( There is no purgatory, only heaven or hell That's just Catholic man-made tradition) ------ Please see my POST on Purgatory on this blog: (- Baptism, catholic believe if they sprinkle water they have the right to allow passage to heaven without a persons accep byv ting Jesus -That's just Catholic man-made tradition) ------ NO!. Jesus HIMSELF INSTITUTED Baptism Not the Catholic Church. John 3:3-5 New International Version 3 Jesus replied, *“Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”* 4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!” 5 Jesus answered, *“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.* ------ Jesus said Unless a Man is Born again of Water and the Spirit, he CANNOT enter the Kingdom of heaven.... and Born again means Baptism -- NOT that asking Jesus to come into your heart to be your personal Lord and Savoir that Protestants cooked up in the 16th century without any Biblical proof. 1 Peter 3:21 New King James Version 21 *There is also an antitype which now saves us-baptism* (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, ----- Peter says that Baptism NOW Saves us.... may be not you cause you don't believe in the Bible or Peter. ------ And as for The Sprinkling Baptism. Paul was Baptized "SPRINKLE" not immersion. There were No Hot-tubs for Baptism at the time. Acts 22: 12-13, 12 “A man named Ananias came to see me. He was a devout observer of the law and highly respected by all the Jews living there. 13 He stood beside me and said, *‘Brother Saul, receive your sight!’* And at that very moment I was able to see him. 16 And now what are you waiting for? *Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away,* calling on his name.’ (- Praying to subordinate figures as if they had authority over life and death- Mary was not your savior nor a person of authority - That's just Catholic man-made tradition) ------ We pray to Mary and the Saints in their Honor, Veneration and Intercession, most certainly NOT worship as all Protestants accused us of. James 5:16 New International Version 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. *The prayer of a righteous person* (a Saint) is powerful and effective. Proverbs 15:8 New Century Version 8 The Lord hates the sacrifice that the wicked offer, but *he likes the prayers of honest people.* (a saint) Proverbs 15:29 New English Translation 29 The Lord is far from the wicked, but *he hears the prayer of the righteous.* (the saints) 1 Timothy 2:1-3 New English Translation Prayer for All People 2 First of all, then, *I urge that requests, prayers, intercessions, and thanks be offered on behalf of all people,* 2 even for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. 3 *Such prayer for all is good and welcomed before God our Savior,* Revelation 5:8 New English Translation 8 and when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders threw themselves to the ground[a] before the Lamb. Each[b] of them had a harp and golden bowls full of incense *(which are the prayers of the saints).* ------ the prayers of the saints (on heaven and earth) are presented to God by the angels and saints in heaven. This shows that the saints intercede on our behalf before God, and it also demonstrates that our prayers on earth are united with their prayers in heaven. Revelation 8:3-4 New English Translation 3 Another angel holding a golden censer came and was stationed at the altar. A large amount of incense was given to him to offer up, *with the prayers of all the saints,* on the golden altar that is before the throne. 4 The smoke coming from the incense, along *with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand.* ------ in heaven an angel mingles incense with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne of God, and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God. These prayers “rise up” before God and elicit various kinds of earthly activity. God responds to his children’s requests, whether made by his children on earth or in heaven. (- Sin forgiveness - You need to chant some approved line from the church to be forgiving of sin- Hail Mary .... That's just Catholic man-made tradition) ------ Just because Jesus died for our sins don't mean that we're Home free..... We too must denied ourselves, pick up our crosses and follow Him. Think of the Hail Marys as a fine. (I can keep going. I aint protestant, but Catholics are riddled in holes and lives in a very dark world. ) ------ Please do, I beg of you...... The Catholic Church GAVE the world Christianity. It's didn't fall from heaven and landed in your Bible.

SIMPLE: Catholic was founded by Jesus. Protestant was founded by Martin Luther. the Catholic Church has been under attacked for 2000 years since it was established by Saint Peter and Jesus. and true to itself, it withstanded everything through the test of time. Even Adolph Hitler failed to destroy it. and where is he now? It will endure everything yet it will remain the original church Jesus established. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

And *PURGATORY is VERY BIBLICAL:* This is why ONLY the Catholic Church can interpret Scriptures into it's proper contexts. ----- Purgatory is NOT a Catholic Teaching: It came from the Old Testament according to the Jews: ------ Here are some examples of ritual prayer and penitent mourning for the dead for specific periods of time. The Jewish understanding of these practices was that the prayers freed the souls from their painful state of purification, and expedited their journey to God. Genesis 50:10 New King James Version 10 Then they came to the threshing floor of Atad, which is beyond the Jordan, and *they mourned there with a great and very solemn lamentation.* *He observed seven days of mourning for his father.* Numbers 20:29 New International Version 29 and when the whole community learned that *Aaron had died, all the Israelites mourned for him thirty days.* Deuteronomy 34:8 New International Version 8 *The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was over.* ------ Baruch asks the Lord to hear the prayers of the dead of Israel. Prayers for the dead are unnecessary in heaven and unnecessary in hell. These dead are in purgatory. Baruch 3:4 Good News Translation 4 O Lord Almighty, God of Israel, hear our prayer. *We are no better off than the dead.* *Our ancestors sinned against you, the Lord their God.* *They refused to obey you, and we are suffering the consequences of their sin.* ------- God, through the blood of His covenant, will set those free from the waterless pit, a spiritual abode of suffering which the Church calls purgatory. Zechariah 9:11 Lexham English Bible 11 As for you also, because of the blood of your covenant, *I will release your prisoners from the waterless pit.* ------ The prayers for the dead help free them from sin and help them to the reward of heaven. Those in heaven have no sin, and those in hell can no longer be freed from sin. They are in purgatory. Luther was particularly troubled with these verses because he rejected the age-old teaching of purgatory. As a result, he removed Maccabees from the canon of the Bible. 2 Maccabees 12:43-45 Good News Translation 43 *He also took up a collection from all his men, totaling about four pounds of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering.* *Judas did this noble thing because he believed in the resurrection of the dead.* 44 *If he had not believed that the dead would be raised, it would have been foolish and useless to pray for them.* 45 In his firm and devout conviction that all of God's faithful people would receive a wonderful reward, *Judas made provision for a sin offering to set free from their sin those who had died.* ------ when the Master comes (at the end of time), some will receive light or heavy beatings but will live. This state is not heaven or hell, because in heaven there are no beatings, and in hell we will no longer live with the Master Luke 12:47-48 International Standard Version 47 *That servant who knew what his master wanted but didn’t prepare himself or do what was wanted will receive a severe beating.* 48 But *the servant who did things that deserved a beating without knowing it will receive a light beating.* Much will be required from everyone to whom much has been given. But even more will be demanded from the one to whom much has been entrusted.” ------- in this story, we see that the dead rich man is suffering but still feels compassion for his brothers and wants to warn them of his place of suffering. But there is no suffering in heaven or compassion in hell because compassion is a grace from God and those in hell are deprived from God's graces for all eternity. So where is the rich man? He is in purgatory. Luke 16:19-31 International Standard Version The Rich Man and Lazarus 19 “Once there was a rich man who used to dress in purple and fine linen and live in great luxury every day. 20 A beggar named Lazarus, who was covered with sores, was brought to his gate. 21 He was always trying to satisfy his hunger with what fell[a] from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs used to come and lick his sores. 22 “One day, the beggar died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In the afterlife, where he was in constant torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus by his side. 24 So he shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me! Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water to cool off my tongue, because I am suffering in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham said, ‘My child, remember that during your lifetime you received blessings,[ while Lazarus received hardships.[d] But now he is being comforted here, while you suffer. 26 Besides all this, a wide chasm has been fixed between us, so that those who want to cross from this side to you cannot do so, nor can they cross from your side to us.’ 27 “The rich mansaid, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house- 28 because I have five brothers-to warn them, so that they won’t end up in this place of torture, too.’ 29 “Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets. They should listen to them!’ 30 “But the rich man[g] replied, ‘No, father Abraham! But if someone from the dead went to them, they would repent.’ 31 “Then Abraham[h] told him, ‘If your brothers[i] do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even if someone were to rise from the dead.’” ------ every knee bends to Jesus, in heaven, on earth, and "under the earth" which is the realm of the righteous dead, or purgatory. Philippians 2:10 Lexham English Bible 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven and of those on earth and of *those under the earth,* ------- works are judged after death and tested by fire. Some works are lost, but the person is still saved. Paul is referring to the state of purgation called purgatory. The venial sins (bad works) that were committed are burned up after death, but the person is still brought to salvation. This state after death cannot be heaven (no one with venial sins is present) or hell (there is no forgiveness and salvation). 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 Lexham English Bible 10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But each one must direct his attention to how he is building upon it. 11 For no one is able to lay another foundation than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds upon the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13 the work of each one will become evident. *For the day will reveal it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the work of each one, of what sort it is.* 14 *If anyone’s work that he has built upon it remains, he will receive a reward.* 15 *If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but so as through fire.* ------ for gold is tested in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of humiliation. Sirach 2:5 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 5 *For gold and silver are tried in the fire, but acceptable men in the furnace of humiliation.* ------- when Paul writes about God revealing the quality of each man's work by fire and purifying him, this purification relates to his sins (not just his good works). Protestants, in attempting to disprove the reality of purgatory, argue that Paul was only writing about rewarding good works, and not punishing sins (because punishing and purifying a man from sins would be admitting that there is a purgatory). 1 Corinthians 3:13 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 13 *Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is.* ------ the dead are disciplined and tested by fire to receive their heavenly reward. This is the fire of purgatory. Wisdom 3:5-6 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 5 Afflicted in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded: because God hath tried them, and found them worthy of himself. 6 *As gold in the furnace he hath proved them, and as a victim of a holocaust he hath received them, and in time there shall be respect had to them.*

@AnnetteMurphyger

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No, there is only heaven or hell no in-between

@salachenkoforley7382

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@@AnnetteMurphyger : 😂😂😪😪: Yes ofcourse. please show evidence in support of your argument. I'm NOT holding my breathe over this. ----- And you believed in the Blessed Trinity, yet there's nowhere in the Bible where you would find the word "Trinity". Hypocrite!.

@salachenkoforley7382

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@@indigofenrir7236 : Jesus did died for our sins, the problem is, you believed that if you rob a bank kill a few folks on your out and your sins will be forgiven before you get home an count the money. -----You believed that everytime you committed a crime/sin, Jesus is right there to forgive you. That is OUTRAGES and illogic. It only encourage people like yourself to commit more sins because of this false understanding of the death of Jesus. ----The Bible does explained the necessity of Purgatory before heaven. Jesus even gave a parable with regards to Purgatory (The Richman and Lazarus). If you don't agree with it, then you shouldn't read the Bible.

The Error of the Protestant Lie: "But as for the cowardly and unbelieving, and abominable and murderers, and fornicators and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their portion shall be in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Revelation 21:8, ignored by all liars. See Rev 21:27 also. It is a foregone conclusion that Jesus Christ founded only one Church. 1) Why then, do Protestants ignore this fact and continue to splinter the Body of Christ? 2) There is no Protestant who can trace his or her church back any farther than the Protestant revolt of the early 16th century. Where is the verse which authorized them to break from the true Church in the first place? 3) No Protestant can show that their church was founded by Jesus Christ, yet Scripture says there is only one Church, the one founded by GOD (Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18). 4) They deny that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ founded, yet they cannot name the Church which He did found in its stead. Isn't it strange that Scripture has said that GOD's Church will last forever (Isaiah 2:2,59:21, Matthew 28:20, Ephesians 3:21), and yet Protestants refuse to name it? If Scripture can be believed at all, why then do they refuse to name GOD's one and only Church? 5) They cannot name the person who founded the Catholic Church while at the same time they deny that it was Jesus Christ. That is strange also, since every Church on earth was founded by a person with a name. Every single one of the tens of thousands of Protestant sects can be traced back to a human person with a name, as its founder. Why is it that Protestants refuse to name the founder of the Catholic Church? Isn't that the epitome of arrogance as I touched upon in a previous segment? 6) Why do Protestants spread the lie that the Catholic Church apostatized soon after the last Apostle died, and therefore the Church of today is not the one that Jesus Christ founded? This lie flies in the face of Matthew 16:18, as Protestants must then have to admit that the 'gates of hell' did indeed prevail, that the Bible was in error, and that all of the verses I have previously listed that promise the perpetualty of Christ's Church must be in error as well. This so-called "great apostasy" lie is then magnified a hundredfold since no Protestant can produce genuine historical documents which record such a "monumental, universe shaking event". Every writer who was alive at the time had to have witnessed that supposed "profound event", and those who have lived ever since (up until the time that the lie was invented by Protestantism), did not write about it either. What with the "greatest event since the crucifixion" at hand, why didn't they? It is because it never happened, that's why. Simply put, "No lie is of the truth", 1John @, so therefore no lie can be proven. Scripture does say that people within Christ's Church will apostatize, but not the Church itself. For you see, it is impossible, since Christ is the Head, and the Church is His Body. How could the Body of Christ rebel against, and leave His Head? They are inseparable forever. "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23 Okay Protestants, explain those verses? Is Christ really the Savior of His Body, or did He desert it as Protestantism would have us believe? Is Holy Scripture in error yet again according to Protestant false charges? Are we to believe the Protestant lie, or the truth of the Word of GOD? Do you recall the story of the wheat and the chaff, where the weeds will co-exist with the righteous up until the very end, and then they will be separated out and burned (Matthew 13:24-30)? "For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized." 1Corinthians 11:18-19. From those two verses we have a perfect example of the apostasy of individuals within the Church, those who cause divisions and factions. Now from what I have shown in many places in this writing, just who is the cause of divisions and factions? It is none other than Protestantism. Protestantism has already created over 36,000 divisions and factions, and which number is still increasing unceasingly every week to this very day. Who are the 'genuine among you'? They are the faithful of the one and only Church that Jesus Christ founded and which is still with us after almost 2000 years of persecution. Read Acts 5:38-39 for the reason why this longevity. For those who continue to spread the lie of the so-called, and non-existent, "great apostasy", please re-read Revelation 21:8, and endeavor to explain Ephesians 5:23-24? 7) How many verses have I shown in this writing that Protestants ignore? Isn't it a lie to say that you follow Scripture literally to the word, and yet ignore so many Scriptural verses? 8) Why do Protestants take the whole Bible literally except for John chapter 6, which they call symbolic? One chapter in the whole Bible is symbolic? How can that be true? 9) How can Protestants say that Sola Scriptura has been in use from day one, when for over 1400 years almost no one had a Bible, and even if they did, the great majority of the masses were illiterate anyhow? 10) Since Protestants believe that "all Scripture is inspired (2Tim @)", then why aren't the gospels of Peter, Philip, Nicodemus, Bartholomew, Andrew, Thomas, etc, in their Bible? 11) Where in Holy Scripture did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith is to be solely based on a book? How about the same question except for using the Apostles instead of Jesus? 12) Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth when the Bible clearly says it is the Church (1Tim @)? Please give me the name of that Church? 13) Why do Protestants reject Apostolic Tradition when the Bible clearly says, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold the teachings that you have learned, whether by word or by letter of ours." 2Thessalonians @, yet another verse ignored, and taught against by Protestantism. 14) Why do Protestants deny that the Bible came from the Catholic Church when they cannot name a truthful and provable alternate source, and where there are literally hundreds of genuine historical documents which prove them to be wrong in their denial? 15) Protestants deny that Peter was given primacy in Matthew 16:18. Nothing in Scripture is done without a purpose. For what purpose then, did Jesus change Simon's name to Peter? 16) Why do Protestants deny that the Papacy is Scriptural, when in fact, it is very Scriptural? 17) Why is it that Protestants can never supply genuine historical documents to "prove" their false charges? Is it because the lie can never be proven, but the truth can be? It is simple, if you have no truth, then you have no proof. Catholics can, and do, supply genuine historical documents to prove what they teach. Why then do Protestants refuse to read them? Romans 1:18, 2:8 18) Why do Protestants deny the unbroken line of succession of Popes down through the centuries from St. Peter to the present Pope, when the Catholic Church has given free access for anyone to research genuine historical documents to prove it to be true, but Protestants refuse to read them? Anyone can go to a secular encyclopedia and see the same succession of Popes. 19) Why do Protestants deny that the Catholic Church has existed from the first century, when hundreds of genuine historical documents, written by scores of Holy men and women, are freely available to prove them wrong in their denial? However, Protestants simply refuse to read them. As explained earlier, Protestants teach that history ended with Acts 28:30 and did not begin again until Luther came along. 20) I saved the worst Protestant lie as the last one on this list. When asked who founded the Catholic Church, there are some who answer correctly that it is Jesus Christ who founded it, but they quickly add that the Catholic Church fell into apostasy and is not the same Church today as the one founded by Jesus. Of course they have no documented proof of this world shaking event as to the who caused it and when and where it happened. By making this false charge they may have condemned themselves because they have just called Jesus Christ a liar. You see there are verses in Holy Scripture which they either choose to ignore or do not understand, and the verses show that Jesus in fact did promise that His Church would last for all time and so did St Paul:😢

@stevenknapp2850

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Actually if you wanna go the route it’s the Jewish religion that should be right because Jesus wasn’t catholic. So your argument has no grounding.

@biblealone9201

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@@stevenknapp2850 Sorry Jesus grafted the gentiles in and formed a new Church the Catholic Church😎

@stevenknapp2850

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@@biblealone9201 The pride and ceremonial heresies run deep just as they did with the Pharisees. Just saying I love all of you guys but don’t you think it’s off what Jesus spoke against you continue to do? Like call a man father. Repetitive prayer. Only being able to confess sin to a holy man and not to God himself. When did Jesus say hey take it up with my Mom she’ll let me know? Again I’m not trying to be rude I legitimately want to learn more. Paul also warned of people teaching false doctrines so can it be it was false to begin with?

@biblealone9201

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenknapp2850 Call no man teacher. Third, a careful examination of the context of Matthew 23 shows that Jesus didn’t intend for his words here to be understood literally. The whole passage reads, "But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ" (Matt. 23:8-10). The first problem is that although Jesus seems to prohibit the use of the term "teacher," in Matthew 28:19-20, Christ himself appointed certain men to be teachers in his Church: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." Paul speaks of his commission as a teacher: "For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle . . . a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth" (1 Tim. 2:7); "For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher" (2 Tim. 1:11). He also reminds us that the Church has an office of teacher: "God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers" (1 Cor. 12:28); and "his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers" (Eph. 4:11). There is no doubt that Paul was not violating Christ’s teaching in Matthew 23 by referring so often to others as "teachers." Fundamentalists themselves slip up on this point by calling all sorts of people "doctor," for example, medical doctors, as well as professors and scientists who have Ph.D. degrees (i.e., doctorates). What they fail to realize is that "doctor" is simply the Latin word for "teacher." Even "Mister" and "Mistress" ("Mrs.") are forms of the word "master," also mentioned by Jesus. So if his words in Matthew 23 were meant to be taken literally, Fundamentalists would be just as guilty for using the word "teacher" and "doctor" and "mister" as Catholics for saying "father." But clearly, that would be a misunderstanding of Christ’s words. i.) If you look at Matthew 23: 1-24, it is obviously the overall thrust of the passage is about assuming positions of authority in the Church to aggrandize one's self or stroke one's ego (the scribes and Pharisees occupying "Moses's seat" and then expecting people to call them "Rabbi", "Father", etc but doing nothing to "lift a finger" to alleviate the burden they bind on people's consciences / the obligations they impose. It is a discourse on SERVANT leadership ("The Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give His life as a ransom for many") NOT a fastidious rant about religious forms of address or ecclesiastic titles. ii.) IF the typical Protestant interpretation of Matthew 23: 9 is correct, then it makes St. Paul a sinner and invalidates the divine inspiration of his epistles, "I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I BECAME YOUR FATHER IN CHRIST JESUS through the gospel. Therefore, I urge you, be imitators of me." cf. I Corinthians 4: 14-16 Obviously St. Paul is not referring to biological paternity, but a spiritual one "through the Gospel". By preaching the Gospel to the Corinthians in his ministry, he became a FATHER to them, by their becoming "beloved children" of God. Besides this passage, Ephesians 3: 14-15 is also good, "For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom ALL FATHERHOOD in heaven and on earth is named,...". In other words, human 'fatherhood' (whether biological or spiritual) PARTICIPATES IN God's Fatherhood. At Matthew 23: 9, Jesus Christ is admonishing the scribes and Pharisees who had gotten such an inflated sense of ego that they believed, because they sat on "Moses's seat" deciding matters by interpreting Tanakh / the "Old Testament" and applying it to specific cases brought to them by the People of God, that they were CHANGING clear prescriptions laid down in Torah (e. g. setting aside the commandment to 'Honor father and mother" by a child claiming the support they were obligated to give to their parents they would give to "God" because they decided it was a higher purpose, etc) and substituting their man made rules, AS IF they themselves were the "Father" / YHWH. The passage is not about a literalist use of a title or form of address ("father") but about servant leadership. And when their fastidious Protestant interpretation so OBVIOUSLY contradicts I Corinthians 4: 14-16 where the Apostles St. Paul calls himself "father" by analogy to those to whom he preached the Gospel, you can be sure their interpretation is wrong because it sets two separate passages of divinely inspired sacred Scripture at odds with one another🤣

@biblealone9201

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenknapp2850 repetitious prayer Jesus warned about was the type of prayer described in 1 Kings 18:26-28: Quote: “And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.” The pagans would call upon the name of their gods over and over until they got the god to respond. If their god responded, it made the shaman or holy man a big shot, capable of calling the gods down from heaven. That's the "vain" part. The "repetitious" part is not the problem. Jesus prayed the same prayer three times in the Garden. The angels in heaven endlessly repeat "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is THE LORD GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME." Now that's repetitious prayer, but it's pleasing to God. Just like the Rosary. Keep on prayin'! Here is a list of some in each category that you can check in your Bible. (V) 1King 18:25-29, (U) Isa 6:3, (U) Dan 3:52-90, (V) *Mt 6:7, (U) Mt *26:44, (U) *Lk 6:12, (U) Lk 18:1,9-14,*21:36, (U)*Col 1:9, (U) 1Thes 3:10,5:17, (U) *Jam 5:16, (U) **Rev 4:8 I Thessalonians 5:16-18 NKJV Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.😂

I was Roman Catholic, and when i started to take my faoth seriously and actually _read_ the bible, i noticed too many contractions between Catholic practices and the bibles teachings. As a result i became and agnostic atheist since i found no consistency in God. After seeking spirituality and finding my way to Christianity (not Catholicism) I later realised that Catholicism and Christianity arent the same.

@hatchluke

7 ай бұрын

So are you Christian now, or remain atheist? Curious.

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

Lot of strawman arguments here...

One is Biblical and one is demonic. ✝️🙏🏼

@Xnniea

11 ай бұрын

As a non catholic im here to tell you catholicsm is not demonic it cannot be demonic because it still wprships God and catholics go to heaven too

@purgatorean

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible for you to show just one single Protestant doctrine from the Bible that is different than what the Catholic Church teaches in the Bible?

This is so false