Mora is smoking that swedish rocks!

@KINGACE9

Жыл бұрын

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I think Mora is about 2-3 years too late with their well over priced items. The next 3-4 years will be about hunting for bargains and not over paying for stuff we don't actually need.

🤦🤦🤦, hell no. For that I can get a full custom in CPM-3V

@gideonstactical

Жыл бұрын

For sure!!! So crazy

@maxlvledc

Жыл бұрын

@gideonstactical I think you called it perfectly in your video. Btw, been a fan for years! Plz keep up the amazing content! 🍻

No way , that steel and that qualify is not even close to that price point. Plus from what I've seen in reviews the old Hickory butcher knife series is as good if not better.

Would never in a million years spend that on a mora. I'd buy the garberg. No way will they get $200 plus for them.

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

don't just get a kansbol or a companion hd, I own the garberg and hate it. Way too heavy, ergos are meh, and the thicker swedge of steel just makes it actually worse at firecraft

@pubplays368

Жыл бұрын

@@escapetherace1943 what a completely different opinion that 99% of others will disagree with.

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

@@pubplays368 99 percent? no. A mora robust is just as tough but costs 3-4x less and weighs less. Or a hultafor gk I hate my garberg xD

@pubplays368

Жыл бұрын

@@escapetherace1943 I can see we disagree completely. If you think a garberg is heavy then you’re probably an ultra light camper (I automatically assume anyone who is an ultra light camper is clueless when it comes to the outdoors). Ergos are definitely a preference thing. The symmetrical handle will conform to the majority of hands quite nicely. A 1/8” thick knife is perfect for a camp knife. Not too thick. Not too flimsy. The garberg is also virtually indestructible for $60 (assuming you get the carbon model, the stainless is still pretty tough too). If you hate the garberg then you’d hate my EDC which is the Esee 5. My opinion may be based on the fact that I teach survival skills to special forces. The garberg and the Esee 5 are tough do it all knives for any environment. It just sounds like you want a slicey kitchen knife or carver. Nothing wrong with that 👍

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

@@pubplays368 you couldn't be more wrong. A 9 ounce knife is a chore to use, especially in a prolonged survival scenario. That's a lotta weight when you are starving, tired, and need to make kindling nonstop. A morakniv heavy duty weighs half and is tougher while being cheaper. Same for the mora robust, the bahco 2449 or the hultafors gk. Those 3 knives are quite literally indestructible and between 14-25 dollars, and they weigh less. Full tang offers literally nothing in respect to these knives (the hulta is a 3/4 wide tang anyway). I would argue that literally whatever knife you have on you is fine regardless and that if you are batoning at all you probably don't have actual survival skills. Batoning isn't necessary in any environment to secure kindling. I used to use the garberg and I just use a mora classic most of the time. Once my skill got better I realized batoning was useless and unnecessary to make fires. Batonners are the mall-ninjas of the bushcraft/survival community

Mora is off their rocker with this one... 🤦‍♂️

Just the latest proof that there is more money than there is sense in the world.

I think Mora had too many magic mushrooms before dreaming up that price

Most good folders or autos are $300. I'll buy one.

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

Premium, not "good". Good to me: Rat-1 or 2 $30-40, Buck 110 or 112 slim lite $30-40. Autos are a different animal but one of my favorite edc's is Benchmade Mini-Reflex 2550 $190-200. I really like my premium knives but, I have no nostalgia with Mora and the equation doesn't work for me. (Price>material >quality of manufacturing) I would much rather have a Bark River in 3v for the price but, thats just me.

The “upgrade” though I can’t see this as being anymore durable than the current design, does not justify the significant increase in price. Ash is an ok hardwood but there is nothing special about it. Though I am certainly not a steel snob (I edc a traditional Buck 110 on my belt) the blade material isn’t anything to write home about. I am having a hard time locating the added value in this knife. You would be better off buying a Mora knife blank for about 13 bucks, picking a nice piece of hardwood and build your own. Buy some leather and maybe a small leather working kit and make your own sheath. Plenty of KZread videos on how to do it. You’ll have way more fun and feel a heck of a lot better about the money you just spent.

Mora will lose some credibility over this series, who will paythe asking price? Not me anyway.

@clintwestwood3539

Жыл бұрын

They are actually selling pretty well from what Mora’s is saying on instagram and Twitter. Looks like a win on their part.

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

P.T. Barnum said it best. Theres a sucker born every minute. No one with more than three brain cells would pay Bark River/ L.T. Wright prices for these knives. Collector's on the other hand...

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

@@clintwestwood3539 id like to see the quarterly sales reports in a year or so. After the initial release sales, I'd be willing to bet they "flatline". Just my opinion.

@clintwestwood3539

Жыл бұрын

@@charlessalmond7076 I don’t see the problem in that, they can always change the price, that happens for so many brand in different industries. Nike, for example, starts at 300/350$ easily, but they will set the price around 100/125$ after a few months. If they stop selling and they have more product, they can always lower the price and sell it, what’s the problem? No one forces you to buy one.

@clintwestwood3539

Жыл бұрын

@@charlessalmond7076 I agree that it’s overpriced, I’m the first saying that if they do 50% on each single knife from the line, I’ll probably end up buying them all. At that price, it’s not for me, not because it’s too steep, but because I can get a fully custom knives from North Europe or Slavs that are both geniuses as far as bladesmithing comes. However, now, I just don’t understand this crusade so many of you portray for no reason. If they are at that price after the release, it means that it’s selling; you can see so many reviews already which means that people are interested in the products. Calling them “idiots” or “buffoons” like so many of you do and comparing them to BRKT or LTWK saying that the latter are just straight up better, I mean, are they? Lt wright are good quality, but they are also overpriced for the steel and treatment you get (which is soft for every single steel, but they said that they tried to run some batches harder and people complained because they go full Neanderthal and beat with rocks on their tools). We want to talk about Mike Stewart from Bark River? The guy is a crook like his father before him, selling O1 marked as Cruwear at 500$ when it was a 100$ product, when exposed he tried to shut down everything and publicly (on bladeforum, bushcraftusa and Twitter public platforms) threatened to physically harm and sue who was exposing him. Or do we want to talk about the 61 hrc Magnacut that has burnt edges and oxidise because of the bad treatment, then he says that it’s because the steel is not stainless, however Spyderco is replacing H1 and LC200N for Magnacut because stain proof, but you have to do a correct treatment? You see, it’s not all black and white. I’d rather support Mora or LTWK rather than Bark River, so it’s already a flawed argument to compare them to begin with. If they ain’t selling, they will lower the price. If they ain’t lowering the price, it means that they reached their target and I’m happy for them. If they lower it or discount it for some pieces, at 50% I’ll buy them immediately because they are a good company, with a wonderful warranty and I know that they pieces are quality. They are just not “custom” premium quality. Can they compare with BRKT? If you value ethics, yeah, they obliterate Bark Rivers. Can they compare with LTWK? It depends, but they are close, closer than you think.

Damn i love the look of that ash cooking knife they are calling the "Rambo" but no way would i pay that price. I'll be looking for a more reasonably priced alternative.

I'd rather have 20 of Basic 511. A friend of mine is a survival instructor and he once bought a whole box of them to use in school, and the picture of full box of Moras had never left my mind since.

@chriskp

Жыл бұрын

I picked up a bunch at a good price and besides the ones I have given away to people, I still just use the one. Could be handy to have a few, but I treat mine like it stole money from me and it’s still going strong.

Not at that price point

Their timing is not great... and the material choice makes me wonder if they have supply issues.

I've learned that a whopping 40% of morakniv knives are Sweden exclusives and aren't exported, while the remainder --- I had the Wit and Lok, you just have to handle them to know the huge difference however The steel is still recycled Swedish stainless, most likely AISI 420 But I got a response from morakniv directly breaking down the why for the price, it's full tang versus 3/4 and a black full grain leather versus plastic, also the handle is white ash certified and treated versus rubber, and a black blade versus not. They said the knife spends more time at every station which combining all of this added up the price, less robots and more hand work and lastly the obvious profit

@gideonstactical

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the breakdown. Still they are wildly overpriced. $120usd max and that is being generous. They don’t even come close to blades like the Brisa Trooper, Joker Ember or Bushlore, and HELLE knives are bigger, better materials at the same prices.

@brianlash154

7 ай бұрын

@gideonstactical yes these knives are overpriced still

Only 20x OG Mora MSRP? Dude who they think we are, the poor brigade? I want to pay at least 25x MSRP. I wanna be a STAR 💫 💯💯💯

@roycolglazier1061

Жыл бұрын

Laffin' me arse off...! 😂👍❤️

OVER PRICED $24 HD mora IS ALL U NEED! THAT'S WHY THEY ARE GREAT!!!

Maybe if they were better steel like 3v elmax cruwear s35 or something like that i might would consider it but never ever ever ever on basic 14c28n or they’re carbon version

Ya nope. They did everything that people wanted, except for a reasonable price, which is what they are best know for lol. It’s almost as if they don’t want it to be successful so they can go back to just doing what they always have done. I’ve noticed though that the quality has dropped a bit in their cheaper models as well. Specifically in the sharpening department. I’ve seen a bunch of wonky grind on tips and such.

It is too expensive, I can buy here in Spain a Joker trampero, Campero, canadiense, etc... For 80 euros

My $20 Mora works just fine. I don't baton it except for making pencil sized kindling. Great bushcraft blades. This is ridiculous for an ash wood handle. "SREW YOU GUYS I'M GOING HOME"!!!

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

But, are you taking your ball?!?

@GolAcheron-fc4ug

7 ай бұрын

Eric cartman 🤣

Not for that price.

I'll stick with the 10 to 15 dollar Moras they are just fine. 511 or Robust yeah that's why I get Mora blades because I can beat them to shit and if I lose one or give it away it's cheap to replace. If I'm gonna spend the ash series type of money on a knife I'd get something like Benchmade model 162 but I already have one

The whole point of that series is being "green" basically recycled material low carbon footprint etc... and as everything green its basically the same but with an huge price increase 🤷🏻‍♂️...

Lol, do they not know about BPS knives.

It's a nice knife but not for two hundred bucks.

Mora has left their lane, and have made some seriously poor production/marketing decisions. They’ve discovered that the bush- and wood-crafter folk are serious about their tools, and will to pay for quality. However, we all have one or several Moras because, while providing above the bar quality for the genre of blades they’ve does for decades, they’ve made their popularity and name on the basis of providing quantity. Heck, I’ve got several higher end scandis and crafting full flats, and yet I popped my Companion HD on my pocket yesterday, while overhauling my home stump set of three batons, and all three of these out of the wooden granite that is Osage orange. They’re great. However, few of the serious users of our genre of blades will toss their whole wallet at these new Moras over other makers’ offerings at the same price. Thanks for PSA clip, brother!

Swedes jumping on the unjustified inflation gouging bandwagon with this one, losing some respect for Mora.

Buy a garberg or HD and save the money. No way I'm paying that for 14c28n

@gideonstactical

Жыл бұрын

Not sure it is even that steel.

Mora thinks like this, if you want a cheap good knife buy our cheap knives. You want to pay some extra to get a premium, put down some extra cash.

Mora does not understand there own company and why people like those knives.

Seems pretty expensive for the materials that are being used!

They're out of their mind

I'll stick with the regular mora $15, How is the mora bushcraft or garberg in your opinion?. thanks brother good video

The Ash wood series are nice knives but way overpriced for what they are. Recycled stainless, timber handles and an unnecessary coating on the blade. I won’t be buying them unless they come down in price, a lot.

They should base the ash series on the garberg

As someone who lives in a desert I despise wood handles, they shrink , expand , and crack with desert conditions. Esse in my opinion need to work on getting the thickness of the handles thicker anyway, good knife, shite handle.

These are going to sell like turd sandwiches

I think I'd take the ESEE warranty for that price.

I guess their trying to keep up with the price of groceries and gas and etc all normal in these bizarro times🤦🏻‍♂️

I think it’s a great offering from mora. It doesn’t ruin any of their credibility with me. It’s not like you can’t still buy their budget knives lol. People WILL buy this, regardless of price.

@yankee23a

Жыл бұрын

Seriously ?.....seems you have had one to many of those magic mushrooms you have in your profile picture 😅

@chriskp

Жыл бұрын

@@yankee23ayikes

Mora has made Companion HD and they may not come up with anything else. 💁🏻‍♂️

@bjornanderson3645

Жыл бұрын

The robust is the same knife but cheaper, and there chisel knife is best for hard work.

Poor mora , joker for the win still

Closet queens?

Very excited for these new Moras, I'm sure they'll show up for ~ESEE prices in stores

someone getting fired

Let's be angry at morakniv to want to use local workers instead of third world slaves and local resources instead of a bunch of petrochemicals and foreign steel. If it's so simple and cheap to produce such knifes, why don't YOU start making some mora ashwood serie clones and sheath in your own shed. Let's see what price tag you come up with. It's a correct price for the value.

@gideonstactical

5 ай бұрын

Wow you sound pissed, tons of other companies can produce better Knives sourcing everything out of Europe, or the United States at half the cost. Are you telling me they make the Mora Garberg over in China? It makes no sense that I can get a Garberg with better steel and a leather sheath for under 100 bucks. So you are telling me those handles cost the company $180 to source and fashion? Then they are doing something wrong. Looking forward to your reply 👍😉

Not at that price

Their basic knives are a steal of a price, so I'm fine with paying more of a premium for their more premium products.

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

Their premium price is not priced to quality of materials. Their selling their name, and people will buy it.

@kyleduddleston4123

Жыл бұрын

@@charlessalmond7076 I understand the materials they are using may not justify the price for some, but I'm simply comparing build quality to their cheaper items, not comparing other offerings with similar materials. A brand name can mean a world of difference in quality and durability, especially in the knife industry. I put quite a bit of stock behind Mora as a brand.

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleduddleston4123 I completely understand. I just spent 160 on a 1095 knife. Tops. I just think they went about 15-20% too high with their msrp on these. Mora does have a great reputation though, they'll sell.

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleduddleston4123 I personally have purchased 6 Mora's. 2 of 6 were screwed up. I know their supposed to be a great company but thats where I'm coming from on q.c..

Just buy a mora blank and make your own.

It will be interesting to see if very many people buy them at those extreme prices. I bet they come down before too long.

Good Morning Mora 😂

Lasst das den Markt entscheiden

Mora IS F. O. S.

Some people will buy them and love them. To each their own. We all love mora and appreciate the extreme value for the quality blades they offer. I’ve seen worse blades on market for that price and higher. I don’t think we should bash them for this. Every other company does this and the market soaks it up

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

Its not a matter of bashing. Its simply pointing out they've lost their freaking minds. Any knife costing this much with this type of materials (average) needs to be dogged on. Things don't change if you simply accept the status quo.

Ouch that’s expensive

56-58HRC recycled soft ass steel. some Chinese company is going to recycle them. go woke, go broke💁

Oh, hell to the NO.

Well many people will pay A LOT for American made or whatever else so why complain here ???!!!

people have too much money

This fool just did a review on a knife without reviewing the knife 🤦‍♂️

@gideonstactical

Жыл бұрын

Not a review, just a news report is all I did 👍

@e.johnson5649

Жыл бұрын

It's a KZread short. MEANT as a KZread short. It's just an announcement. He even says if you want to see the full rundown there's a video for it.

@M0N0T0N0US

Жыл бұрын

@@e.johnson5649 okay clown, maybe you should go watch it then...

@charlessalmond7076

Жыл бұрын

@@e.johnson5649 some fools can watch a whole video and not absorb much.

They look great it looks like a Esee or Tops or a Ontario knife

If im paying 149 dollars I'm buying a TOPS or CONDOR or some other brand knife that is a survival kit knife