*A quiet **Generater.Systems** , love the dual fuel capabilities, camper is 50 amp but the adapter helps and found it still handles the load. Haven't taken a camping trip yet, that's in a couple of weeks. Will see how well it does over a long weekend.*

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

The maximum power wattage you need

According the the distributor, they are the exact same unit. The only difference is the color of the plastic.

@Redfour5

Жыл бұрын

Beat me to it. So, I'm thinking differences are within a set of acceptable parameters

This guy tripled my knowledge on portable electricity in 15 minutes, bravo!

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

🙏🏾👍🏾👊🏾💯😎Thanks

I hope you guys liked this comparison, I was also surprised by the results I thought the Cummins and Westinghouse would have similar output I have zero affiliations with either brands so my test are none biased. I still think both Gens are Awesome 👍🏾

@chtomlin

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you can assume this based on just 2 units.

@stevemaloney8799

2 жыл бұрын

They are the exact same unit. Westinghouse makes the Onan. My guess is you didn't run the onan in efficiency mode like you did the westinghouse.

@stevemaloney8799

2 жыл бұрын

When in the efficiency mode they won't handle as much load as when in normal operation.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevemaloney8799 I ran both in eco mode

@YukonHawk1

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews My under standing of eco mode is that when there is a call for more power the genny will ramp up until demand is met then kick back down. Correct?

I love this man's due diligence!

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

This is a great comparison for 2 "like" units! Due to price, I would always default to the Westinghouse, if choosing between these two. Our trailer will only be a 30amp rig with 1a/c, so I definitely don't need the inverter coverage above what the generator is rated at. But....it will be interesting in the out years to see if that Onan/Cummins inverter proves to outlast what appears to be the slightly less capable Westinghouse inverter. Have a great weekend all !!

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

Lmao.. Cummings is fucking up using a cheap Chinese clone that is the same as the Westinghouse.

I have been an electrician for over 20 years and therefor have to agree with Randy Hunt’s comment. The fact that the Cummins did NOT shut down on overload or even light the overload light when running beyond its power rating and feeding constant 38.8 amps through a receptacle rated for 30 amps is very dangerous for damaging the generator or RV cables connected to it. I definitely would not want a generator that did not shut down when running in an overload condition. If an RV had a 50 amp plug and I needed more power I would buy a bigger generator. So the Westinghouse is the clear winner in my mind because it’s safety mechanisms are working properly. That being said, it appears that either Cummins or Westinghouse is making both of those generators for both brands. I’d bet whichever one actually makes it turns around and sells it to the other brand so they can put their badge on it because physically both generators are identical in every way

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks You’re right it should have triggered a over load light and shut down

@fourbyfourblazer2

2 жыл бұрын

It could be that particular generator is faulty from the factory and the same could happen to a Westinghouse. I've seen choke issues with the Westinghouse so I'm wondering if there have been choke issues with the Onan.

@travispelfrey8940

2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly correct. Onan does not make that gen. We outsource it to Westinghouse and slap our plastic and stickers on it. All warranty work even gets paid by Westinghouse and failed units get sent to them. That’s why there is a price difference. Onan has to make money somehow. Haha.

@andyo.593

2 жыл бұрын

Either brands do not make their own generators. If you dig inside the generator you will find a Chinese factory stamp. They come from the same Chinese factory and Cummins and Westinghouse just private labels them. The box even says made in China.

@ericnortan9012

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. I'm an electrician also.

Hey thanks for the REAL world test of them two ! Also that screen that controls you rv is to cool!

I just bought a Cummins. They just dropped it off today. Cant wait to go home and check it out. Thanks for rhis video!

Just bought a Cummins. Wasn’t sure if a made the right decision, now im glad I bought one… comes with a 3 year warranty that you don’t have to purchase. Thanks for the video bro

Awesome, exactly what I wanted to see. I was torn between the two before seeing your video

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Happy it helped you 👍🏾

@dab208

Жыл бұрын

these are literally the exact same generators. the onan did not shut off in overload which is not surprising. they are both made in the same chinese factory just different color packaging and decals. we have the westinghouse version, $200 cheaper because of the name. i would be highly concerned with the overload protection NOT protecting the internals on the onan.

@bradames3755

Жыл бұрын

@dab208 just because the outside is the same doesn't mean the internals are too.

Great comparison man. Thanks for putting in the work!

I appreciate you taking the time to make this test I was truly torn on making a choice as they look identical Cummins was a clear winner & it made my choice easy God Bless

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

The best comparison review I have seen. Excellent job!

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

I bought the Cummins a few months ago and it’s been fine. About 60hrs on it now , had the a/c running in the trailer last week all day 32 degrees c it was fine . The guy we were camping with had a firman 3000w and that thing keep shutting off and running rough ( probably getting to hot and vapour locking I would imagine) . Remote start is handy, the power switch needs to be on but it doesn’t drain the battery overnight. Worth it I think, but time will tell I guess.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the comment Just remember change the oil regularly and if you can get all the gas out of the system when you store it even better

Great comparison. There is a reason for spending a little more. Similar but not the same.

That Onan is impressive it's only rated at just over 30 running Amps and did 38.6 Amps and still maintained over 100 Volts.

Forget the generators. Maaaaan that's some backyard there! I love it.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂 thanks

YOU FREAKING ROCK!!!!!! Thank you for this....

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

The westinghouse did its job. Its sensed you was drawing current over its run rating a d shut down. The Cummins showed overload and lit up but did not shut down. It fail to shut off and protect your unit against a overlad.

This is a great comparison thanks

Great vid! Great review and comparing. Thanks for sharing.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great video Gavin. I believe I put my comment under someone else comment. But anyway I mention how close in the numbers this two generator where in comparison. On running an rv with a 30 amp outlet I think both would work just great. And if it’s a 50 amp just turning off one ac while using your microwave would probably work. Great job buddy. 👍.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! If you have a 30 amp RV you can’t go wrong with any one of these generators. Thank you for checking out the channel and watching my videos.🙏🏾 I’m gonna have to parallel the two 4500w on a 50 amp RV just to see if I can power everything. Two A/C, microwave, refrigerator all the lights all the TVs washing machine just go crazy with all that power😁🤣

@sae1964

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews why not, let’s see what they do. 😂😂🤣. I saw that champion came out with a 5500 inverter generator already. 🤯. Buddy if l live close I would go give you a hand. I know it’s a lot of work behind what we see. And we appreciate everything you do to get us these videos. 🙏👍

Good to know cause I just bought the Onan

Great video. This answered my question.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you out

Good test, you got my subscription on this one.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Don😎

It may be a good thing that the Westinghouse shut down so that it actually protected it from damaging the internals. For the Cummings not to shut off when overloaded shows it's safety features are not all working properly. Just a thought that you may want to look into to get these questions answered. Westinghouse is a good brand. Maybe a service history from repairs made on these units would help. I don't know just think all possibilities should be considered. Good video.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

It shuts off at 39.9 I tested them three times after

@artpendergraft4989

3 жыл бұрын

They are identical just different color

@stevenkrupp5732

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you may have a point! It didn’t shut of but was only putting out 103-104 volts... pretty low in my book and like you said... might me low enough to be hard on electronics

@memejmoon9716

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews nice review it just have a few questions 😀 I live in Wisconsin we have very cold winters and snow how do you protect your generator from the weather and is it cold and snow proof from your experience? Also, I live in the city I’m trying to figure out how to have a safety plan for when the power goes out for a few days. Back in 1976 the city was shut down for two weeks I was thinking about going with a Delta 2500 and a 2000 gas generator Winston to charge the Delta instead of solar panels due to the snow and bad weather I ccan charge it in my garage. After watching this review maybe just get a bigger unit and put in the woodshed if there’s an emergency what’s your thought? Amazing channel I just subscribed thank you🎉🎉🎉 The champion actually sounded smoother running then the Winston if that’s what it’s called I can’t remember😂

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Hey J Moon thanks for the Sub😎 you can use the Delta and recharge it with the generator but that leaves you with out power when recharging it . The Westinghouse 4500w would need a rain and snow cover I’m working on a video about that should be uploading it soon. If you have space for the larger Generator It would definitely be less of a headache and more power than recharging with solar or the 2k Gen. I would also recommend checking out a dual fuel generator for your backup power Gas/Propane. Let me know what you think 🤔 Thanks 🙏🏾

Great test review. Nice vs video.

I love the content brother. Keep it coming.

Thank you for this video!

Nice RV Gav, good test and sharing that info

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy Appreciate you watching 🙏🏾👍🏾

Good testing session, glad to of watched your channel.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome

If Cummins Onan made a dual fuel in the model, I would buy it. Hard to pass up the ability to use LP while camping. Thanks for the video.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@kylearaiza8808

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy the Westinghouse Lp adapter it it fits the onan. Run it on LP or gas. Or buy the 9500

@bschena

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylearaiza8808 Link to that?

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

While I agree that dual fuel/propane is better for emergency power since you can store propane indefinitely vs gas which expires in 9months to 1 year and maybe 2 years if it's non ethanol/has sta-bil. But my issue is the cost. You only get about 55-60%of the total energy output per gallon of propane vs. gas, which makes it a lot more expensive to run. Yes, propane is slightly cheaper than gas, but the loss in energy output makes it still a good amount more expensive. Basically I would only run propane as a back up energy source and use gas as much as I could.

@BKD70

3 ай бұрын

I just don't understand this love for Dual Fuel/Propane. Yeah, no issues with storage, I get that. But Propane makes less power, you burn more of it, and is such a hassle to refuel/refill when the tank goes empty... definitely not worth the extra hassle in my opinion. I'll take gas any day. All you have to do is drain the carb bowl if you're not going to use it for a while... it's not difficult. Use a good stabilizer, fill the tank full, and drain the carb bowl, and you're set for storage.

You have the best generator videos on KZread brother ! You are great at doing this.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching buddy trying my best 👍🏾

Your RV is nicer then mine, your grass is greener then mine and you are younger then I am...good thing I'm not a hater... ;) good video thanks for the comparison

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Thanks Jeff

Great video Gavin, thank you sir.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Well done....great review!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks TC

I had both. And the big difference other then cost is the Cummins actually ran out of the box. I had all kids of trouble with the Westinghouse. I fixed the Westinghouse by returning it.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I shouldn’t laugh but that’s so funny! 😆 I didn’t expect you too say ( I fixed the Westinghouse by returning it.) Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

@jerrygaona6162

10 ай бұрын

The "Cummins/Onan" generators had the same problem out of the box, since they are made by Westinghouse. I have had to repair or replace several P4500i generators

Nice job on the comparison. I think you're right the Cummins unit does a better job. The Westinghouse unit dropped out too quickly. The line voltage on the Cummins sagged to 103v, but that's OK. The amps will climb and could pop a breaker, but you shouldn't damaging anything. Any device that is damaged due to low line voltage is a pretty bad product anyway. I've been designing eletronic systems for more than 25 years and I've seen some pretty bad stuff go into production, but generally most EEs do a good job of protecting their device designs against low voltages at the circuit level.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Thanks 🙏🏾 Most people see 104v voltage drop and panic but it’s okay like you said the amps will increase and trip the breaker to protect the circuit from damage That’s why I always use a good surge protector with low voltage protection just in case

@brianallen0826

2 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert, but I thought you want a generator to shut off as fast as possible in a overload situation

@BKD70

3 ай бұрын

I'd rather see the gen cut off rather than have it try to carry that overload and ultimately overheat a component and let the magic smoke out of something expensive like the inverter or even the PMA (Permanent Magnet Alternator.. the component that actually produces the electricity). Holding that severe overload is a false benefit that could cost you big.

@livinganewdream3682

3 ай бұрын

@@BKD70 Only if they have designed in sufficient engineering design margin. I design electronics for a living and typically we report user specs that are 20% under the max load designed use. That means, If I tell you it can do 4500w, then the unit was designed 20% over that to account for tolerances in components during manufacturing. So, the number published to the user is the real use number. No need for you to add in your own margin.

WOW! THANKS BROTHER GREAT TEST, GREAT VIDEO. 💚

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

Gotta do more than one test. The Amperage was higher for the draw on the Westinghouse

That is amazing. Onan must use better electronics. Gavin thank you!! Great video. 👍

Looks like I’ll be buying the Onan

Good test! Thank you!

Both generators are identical (except for cosmetics) and made in either China or Vietnam. Have to allow for manufacturing differences. Lets use a car as an example. 2 cars with the exact same specs and options. Yet one will outperform the other. Why? Maybe torque settings were a little higher on one. Or one used parts from Mexico vs Canada vs USA. To me, both generators are winners but I'm not crazy how the voltage dipped on the Cummins brand and kept running. Leads me to think that it was not adjusted properly at the factory. I'd worry that low of a voltage can damage whatever appliances or devices are being used, especially anything with a motor. However, I would never use the genny to that high output. Have to keep in mind that this is a demonstration which, by the way, was excellent!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Well said you are correct that both Gens are identical but settings on both could be changed by either manufacturer

So thorough!!!

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏾

Great comparison

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏾

Right before you started up the microwave for the Westinghouse, your RV was pulling 23.6 amps. When you started up the microwave on the Onan it was only pulling 22.3 amps. That's an extra amp that may have put the Westinghouse over the load and couldn't handle the surge. Good comparison but I'd like to see if done maybe 3 times to see if it behaved the same way.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I did it twice after recording, you think I wouldn’t make sure the Westinghouse overloaded the exactly the same time Cummins ran it every single time. Thanks for watching

@tubemember21

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews Crazy results. I guess the extra money pays for some slightly better electronics! Great videos.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I can show you an overload on the Cummins but I wanted the test equal fridge two a/c and microwave for one minute

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I liked your question you pay very close attention my friend. I think the companies like Honda Cummins Generac Yamaha underrated their Generators so they out perform other’s brands

@YukonHawk1

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews It's all about the marketing.

Great vid Gavin!

The fact that the breaker on the Onan did not trip scares the hell out of me. I will take safety over amount of power anytime. I think I'll be buying Westinghouse.

Excellent test. Thanks

Awesome job! I know which one I'm buying

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome 👏

Gavin, when you do the wave check, let's see what it looks like under load Thanks

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

No problem. Thanks for tip, I will do that next time

Load was a bit higher (about 2 Amps) on the Westinghouse than on the Cummins. Also, voltage dropped more on the Westinghouse than the Cummins. Leads me to believe the SurgeGuard unit disconnected power from the Westinghouse vs the Westinghouse faulting into overload protection (never saw an overload condition on the Westinghouse). Both units are the same. Conditions were almost the same (battery charging had reduced by the time the Cummins was hooked up). The variable is the SurgeGuard unit which would drop the connection vs allow a sub 105V connection to remain active from shore power. The Westinghouse dropped below that threshold, the Cummins did not. Now, that said, Westinghouse support sucks. Campingworld/Cummins support should be much better. You get what you pay for.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent comment my friend but the Surge Guard did not drop power I ran this test three time and same result on each test the W.H 38.8 amps C.O 40 amps.

@stevebastin9982

2 жыл бұрын

Big microwave but you can set the power level on it

@stevebastin9982

2 жыл бұрын

Again no DB levels

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

No the voltage drop was the same, if you're referring to the moment that the gen overloaded and it dropped down significantly that's nothing because it shut down. The Westinghouse house shut down properly instead of maintaining a low 103v. I know I would rather have my gen power off vs running things at a 103v which is potentially harmful to your electronics.

I have worked on both, they are the same, different color. Onan for some reason does seem to work better

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I did this test three times 38.8 to 39.9 shut off but both were perfect. If you prefer blue vs gray and the customer service that’s the real decision here.

@artpendergraft4989

3 жыл бұрын

The customer service should be better with the onan but I wouldn’t bank on it. Good small engine technicians are getting hard to find.

I enjoyed the comparison, but I really do thing that the 2 gensets are identical. Perhaps the Westinghouse had a circuit breaker that was a little weaker? Cannot believe the Cummins held at 38 amps as long as it did on a 30 amp breaker. That should be concerning. Where is the protection? In any case, I bought a Cummins some time back just because of the dealer network if something goes wrong. Great job on the video!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏾

You nailed it. Onan is same engine but has better inverter .

@bschena

2 жыл бұрын

Citation needed. That would be important, if true.

Good video lots of information thanks. Just a question do you run soft starts on your ac’s.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I do!

Thank you for that

Thanks for the video I have a 18 wheeler an I'm looking for a remote start 4500

@djwilson48625

Жыл бұрын

Champion 4650watt is a great unit.

I’d buy another Westinghouse any day over that copy. I’ve had one for a year not this model but the 3600 open frame, I’ve started it on the first pull every time even in -20f weather to keep my electric heaters running with the furnace on in the winter, never had an issue, honestly for testing wise those are not designed to run a dual ac coach. I’ve never blown a circuit on my with 3600 running watts in my 28 foot travel trailer. Run the air and microwave all at the same time. Plus it’s more efficient if you stay in a camper to always have the refrigerator run on propane. A 30 pound tank takes care of my fridge and cooking for nearly a month. Good review tho I enjoyed it

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 🙏🏾

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

These are the kind of comments I really enjoy reading, offer something to the community. humble and polite Thanks 🙏🏾

@brianallen0826

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 28ft travel trailer with a 15k ac unit, I need to get an inverter generator, as I have a 10500,7500 troybilt but it's too loud and too heavy to use as a power source for camping. I am thinking of getting a softstart installed, but one of these gens may work well

The Westinghouse is actually the winner here since it protected the connected loads from a significant voltage drop of 12.5% (nominal voltage was 120 volts while the Onan dropped to 105 volts, Percentage of decrease = |120 - 105|/120 = 15/120 = 0.125 = 12.5% ). The NEC (National Electrical Code) allows for a maximum of a 3% voltage drop ( as per NEC 210.19(A)(1) for branch circuits, NEC 215.2(A)(4) for feeder circuits & a maximum of 1.5% drop on sensitive electronic equipment as per NEC 647.4(D)) on any circuit, so the Onan fell well outside of this requirement.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!! I would have to agree with you. Thanks for watching 👍🏾

Great video! I think I’ve made my decision

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for watching Subscribe and share

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Which one did you pick?

@Josh-vg8cx

3 жыл бұрын

Went with Cummins. Just ran it for 3 days over the weekend and very impressed. Only thing is my surge protector was reading open neutral. Any ideas? Guess it’s normal for some. My buddy’s Firmin was reading open ground.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@Josh-vg8cx all generator comes with a open neutral you solve that problem by buying a bonding plug Thanks for watching

Thanks Gavin

Both are well known name, and if your a history buff then you are aware that Westinghouse name is a piece of historical Americana. To this day and history they made everything from industrial broilers to typerwriters and contributed in both world wars. Then there is Cummins and mostly everyone has heard of that brand. Both are great name as far as products go. I was going to pickup a champion 4650 but today I'm ordering the Westinghouse 4500 instead. Plus from various sources the Westinghouse was reported to being the quietest. For my purposes I can sacrifice a little power for more stealth.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Erik! I liked the history info and thanks for watching.

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

Is Westinghouse really a known name when it comes to generators? I mean I haven't seen their generators before the past few years. I know Westinghouse has been around for over a century and they have made many household appliances, I even had a shitty low budget 32lcd 720p TV from them in 2006 lol. Paid $800 for it and that was considered a STEAL for that size in 2006! Wild. I just feel like their generators are just like any other cheap chinese knockoff brand and considering they are identical to Cummings confirms that. I just can't believe Cummings is willing to put their name on a cheap clone engine like that. Their diesel motors are know for their longevity.

@randybobandy9828

6 ай бұрын

@jesusisimmanuel735 yes it's just Cummins label

I have a Yamaha 2000 and a generac iq 2000 with a generac parallel kit ( plug 🔌 style ) and from watching your videos I’m assuming they should work just fine?? Both are inverter generators. Excuse my ignorance and thanks for your help.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yessir you’re good to go. As long as both generators are inverter generators and are parallel capable you’re good to go. It doesn’t have to be the exact same generators as long as they close in specs parallel capable you’re OK with a parallel kit👍🏾

Thanks for making this video and all of your others . I have learned much from you and now feel good about my purchase of the Onan over the Westinghouse . I am buying 2 to hook up for my 50 amp RV , do you think the Westinghouse Parallel kit is the same as the Onan ? Good savings on the Westinghouse brand if it works !

@GeneratorReviews

27 күн бұрын

Thanks 😊

Garvin have you seen these yet maybe you can be the first to review one ALP GENERATOR 1000 W - ORANGE / GRAY Propane Generator

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s the propane only generator in a 1000w nice 👍🏾

I don't know if you had the eco mode on the Westinghouse if that made any difference? I would be concerned that the unit ran in an overload condition without shutting down.

damn thats a big as RV!!!

Gavin, when you get a chance, could you do a video on the Cummins 4500 high elevation kit? It has four additional jets for different elevations. Thanks.

I'm not sure how anyone would come to the conclusion that one was better than the other when the difference in performance was about 2-3%. This would certainly be within margins of error and product variation from unit to unit. With equivalent warranties, it would be nice to know how said warranties would be handled (though I suspect they go to the same place for work/customer service).

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

I mean they are identical units and were probably built right next to each other in the same factory. Price is what I would be more concerned with vs warranty. Part wouldn't matter because you could use parts from either unit.

I wish the Onan came with a diesel option and fuel connectivity to the RV’s diesel fuel tank.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great point.

Hi Gavin looking for a generator for the house and or for camping. It’s become overwhelming with what’s out there you’re the man that seen most of them .what do you recommend 3600 to 4000. What’s your best bang for the buck model you would recommend duo fuel , remote start. Great videos by the way definitely a fan.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I would definitely recommend you watching my next duel fuel comparison video coming up 4500 DF Generator

Great video. Would you be able to do a review on the Generac IQ3500? Looks like an amazing generator but hard to get

@utubetjc

3 жыл бұрын

Also interested in his comprehensive analysis. I bought one last month and very pleased so far. My genny collection includes: Honda EU2000i, Generac iQ2000, iQ3500, Westinghouse WPro 8500 and iGen 2500.

Curious results as Westinghouse (I believe) makes the Cummings inverter. They look exactly the same.

@MrThisIsMeToo

2 жыл бұрын

They are exactly the same, down to every nut and bolt. Just the paint is different. There are videos on KZread of people who work and repair these generators everyday stating such.

I agree with Randy Hunt. That is not necessarily a win for Cummins. From this test I would buy the Westinghouse.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree also the Westinghouse held the voltage in the safe zone and protected the load by tripping the breaker. Thanks for watching Rick

Great video Gavin👍🏼

@GeneratorReviews

6 ай бұрын

Thanks 😊

I appreciate the O-scope test of their sine wave output. For reference: At 13:03 for the Westinghouse igen4500, and at 13:25 for the Onan Cummins P4500I. They both claim

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think the one I use has this feature

Same exact machines. Safety switch just activated faster. 2 other machines would in all probability react different as well.

@djwilson48625

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. A good follow up video would be a de-casing and proving what we know, and that is that they are the same machine. Even better yet, 2 of the same "brand" side by side.

I'll take the Westinghouse because it shut down and protected against low voltage.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

The Westinghouse is an Excellent choice.👍🏾

Same items, what comparison? What brand preference?

I don't know if its a better inverter or the Onan allows for the generator to run out of spec more. The Westinghouse kicked off at 38 amps, which it is suppose to. I would be interested in seeing if they each have the same inverter. I also don't think the Cummins makes a dual fuel version, which to me is a must have. That's a nice RV :-)

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

After retesting several times the Onan kicks off at 40 amps I had to test it after and it would kick off at 40 amps every time and the Westinghouse at 38.8 amps Thanks buddy 👍🏾

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

That extra 1.2 amps will make a difference

@randybobandy9828

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the Onan ran at a higher amp but at the cost of undervolting @104v. I wouldn't want that. NEC states that 114v is the lowest acceptable voltage, and 108v is the lowest you can get down to before potential damage. Idk it might not matter since most of the time nobody will be running their generator at 100%+ for a extended period of time but imo I would rather my generator power off before running at such a low voltage for more than a few seconds .

Thank you

The westing house had the lights on as well as 2 ac refrigerator and microwave. Cummings did not have lights added into the load. I did enjoy watching the comparison but not level playing field for westinghouse. ???try again with cummings and the lights added to the load??? Thanks for the video.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

What lights??? If you’re talking about the Rv lights I always have them on. Rewatch the video and look for the light reflection in the appliance like the microwave the table top the kitchen counter top you’ll see the reflection I always have my lights on

what is the make and model of the power monitoring unit you are using?

Noticed the Cummins voltage dropped down to 103 volts under max load. If I’m correct under 114 volts is bad for your circuits. I feel it should have tripped as well.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yep it should have tripped the circuit

Great video! When you turn these on with the remote start to they start in eco mode? I've read reviews of them starting in eco then not automatically kicking over to normal power when it sees load. Has that been your experience when using remote start and eco mode?

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

So both generators have Manuel Eco switches so if you leave Eco switch on it’s gonna start in that mode The champion 4500 has automatic Eco mode so it always goes to eco-mode when remote start But the Westinghouse and the Cummins you can actually pick which one you want it started in

So if I’m understanding what happened, it was that your SurgeGuard shut off power to the RV when the Westinghouse voltage dropped below the 103v threshold whereas the Onan never dropped below 103v during the full one minute test with the microwave running. Is that a fair assessment of what occurred. In essence the Westinghouse produced less voltage when placed under full load, while the Onan produced just a bit more voltage under the same conditions.

@BKD70

3 ай бұрын

Great point! I'd rather see the gen cut off at that overload rather than try to pull that severe overload and end up frying the inverter or the generator itself.

I appreciate the video but I'm not sure I agree the Onan is a "clear winner". Personally I feel the Westinghouse is the winner in this case. The Onan continued to power in a low voltage condition, around 105. This is well outside the states specifications. The Westinghouse disconnected the load and went into overload once the load exceeded the rated specs. This is exactly what should happen.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you! It was just really close but I know you guys love a good Battle and someone gotta Win. 38.9 to 39.9 but the top end low voltage was low. Thanks for watching buddy 👍🏾

I think you should have tested the Westinghouse again after the fridge was already a little cool and the ACs were a little warm so they were kind of warmed up

Great video glad to see that the onan is worth the extra little bit. I got the 9500DF onan Cummins to run my house as a back up and it’s great to run the well AC and everything I need fridge and freezers. Thinking about another one for other things like the 4500I

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏾

Love your video. Curious, what elevation were you at when running these tests? Looking at these but trying to see if they will be enough when elevation is at about 6,500 feet. For a 5th wheel with 2 AVs and typical electric goodies.

@Moneyhan1

Жыл бұрын

2 ACs

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

I’m in Texas so not much elevation almost at sea level

Westinghouse makes the Onan generator for Onan. They just change the color of the plastic and slap Onan stickers on it. Onan just charges more for the Onan name

Is operating above rated work load really a good thing? I'd go for Cummings just based on customer service reviews but would rather have it shutoff sooner if overloaded.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

The generator might be under rated that’s very common with most of the big name brands like Honda Yamaha Generac Cummins they always give a little bit more power than they’re rated

You're the Best...☺

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏾

Are any of these Dual Fuel? If so can I connect them to a Natural Gas with some sort of adaptor? Thanks for the advise

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

They are gas Generators the one you thinking about is tri fuel

As a mobile detailer I would love to see a air compressor and a vacuum together on one of these generator....please thanks

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I can make it happen 👍🏾

@cebasmb8250

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews I'd really appreciate that i do mobile detail I'm using a generator oh man it's loud....

Westinghouse overload protection kicked in whereas the onan didn't. I'm my view, the failure of overload protection to react to your abusive load make onan defective by design. I would expect the onan is going to need service repairs more frequently comparing the two models.

2 questions. What did you plug into the gen in the front? You plugged in the power for the RV then another plug? What’s the difference between eco mode and should it run on that all the time?

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

The plug was a ground bonding plug

@lobosdenbbqco.3918

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews great advice. I ordered one on Amazon, plugged it into my igen4500DF Westinghouse and the power surge open ground light turned off. Thanks for your help.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@lobosdenbbqco.3918 Nice 👍🏾