Ah yessss. Make it bigger and heavier please! "What are you building there?' "Building? I'm just changing the caliber a little." "Uhm, you're building every part there." "Because they don't fit."

I may have said it before but, I think your videos are great, 3/4 of the time I look up old guns I see in war movies and documentary's or whatever it's your videos. They are well made, some history, great explaining function the variety of weapons. It's too bad you can't shoot them, that must be hard for you, just lucky to handle them I guess. I inherited a Remington whitmore model 1878 kind of got interested in old guns after that. I hope you keep doing this for a long time. thanks

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+bitbrace Thanks!

@themainproblem

8 жыл бұрын

+bitbrace He really does a great job with his video series! I find him very easy to watch and listen to. Lots of information and delivered very efficently as well

@AussieJok

8 жыл бұрын

+Thema inproblem I totally agree with you. Now dam these glasses...

@rogerwilco2

8 жыл бұрын

+Forgotten Weapons I agree. I have no interest in guns, but I find the history and mechanical details you explain to be very entertaining. The only comparable channel I know is scolagladiatoria.

@paullytle1904

8 жыл бұрын

+RogerWilco good to see another sword feind

How did they make something so precise such a long time ago? I'd love to see the lathes and tools they used.

@calvingreene90

2 жыл бұрын

Careful work by a master craftsman.

Taurus uses blast shields on their revolving rifles. Simple solution but it works surprisingly well.

Both patents: 1. granted to Samuel Colt 25 February 1836 2. granted to Daniel Leavitt 29 April 1837 were for firearms IMPROVEMENTS. The improvement offered by Colt was the cylinder, mechanically rotating 1 position when hammer was being cocked. The improvement offered by Leavitt was the forward side of the cylinder being arched to prevent chain fire due to gas leakage.

For some strange reason whenever I open a Forgotten Weapons clip, KZread gives me children's education clips in the suggested videos section. I'm talking match the bus colors stuff here. Is anyone else experiencing this? Feels damn weird....

@robertthomas9803

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Suryali Me too.

@DerpingWifi

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Suryali same here

@jmpeters499

8 жыл бұрын

Same!

@favs1205563

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Suryali Same here - children's education clips + some weird islamic news :-D

@robertthomas9803

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Peters LOL! When I view prepper/survival medical videos, it suggests lancing/exploding cyst videos!!!!!!!!!

Were there any notable attempts to have a revolver with an easily removable cylinder that could act as a magazine? It just seems like such an apparent improvement, especially after cartridges were widely available.

@mattrhoton9219

7 жыл бұрын

Revolver Ocelot the Remington 1858 was designed that way

@chrisjones6002

7 жыл бұрын

The 1858 was a cap and ball revolver which would make changing the cylinder to reload much faster than reloading the cylinder. With cartridge revolvers you can reload the chambers pretty quickly making changing the cylinder a less useful idea.

@OldDanTucker

2 жыл бұрын

The Remington new model army was designed that way, but cylinders were expensive so it wasn't often used.

Thanks for this...I have a book on Wesson and Leavitt but I never really understood how they worked until now!

It just looks like a revolver with a glued on stock and bigger barrel

@SckharVawn

8 жыл бұрын

+Pieter Batenburg It's basicaly what the first revolving rifles were. In fact, some models we're just the revolvers with holes behind so you could attach a stock and a detachable barrel so you could remove the shorter one and replace with a longer one.

Revolving yesss! I know I say it all the time, but I love revolving actions whether they look like a revolver or not. If it has a rotary or revolving action I love it because 'Maths'.

Awesome gun. Love the action and breakdown :)

It's around 18:15 in Moscow now. KInda nice of you to upload it now. Will have some quality time in public transportation :D

I'm not going to lie, the pistol itself (as I imagine it, mentally removing the stock and barrel) looks like it would be a pretty interesting one. Aesthetically similar to older single-shot flint and hammerlock pistols, with a low bore axis... Shame about the lack of an integral loading level, though.

I like the breakdown. Simple and elegant solution.

thanks for what you are doing..

Very interesting cylinder rotating system to circumvent other patents. Also keeps cylinder stop (Colt type) from scratching side of cylinder. Is stock detachable or one piece integral with the pistol grips. Would be easy to change barrel lengths if available, and easy to exchange extra loaded cylinder for spent one. Love seeing old firearms I am not familiar with.

Have I said it before? I love your stuff. Rare and unusual guns that I can never own. I wish I could collect a few of the most unusual. Unfortunately my taste is very, very expensive. Every gun I see that I find interesting is in the five figure range (usually the high end). Your doing Rock Island a solid. I'll just look-e-loo and wish...... Thank You for the show.

Great stuff. Any chance of doing a video on the Browning M2 .50 cal?

I pity that so many interesting guns were turned down due to some patents :(

@codemiesterbeats

5 жыл бұрын

I know, I was wondering why they didnt argue that they were improving the design? Because to my knowledge you can "use" a patent so long as you are modifying it to basically make it better.

@goldendash1527

4 жыл бұрын

@@codemiesterbeats thats not a arguement you can make with US beurocrats

I wonder if a revolving rifle using a Nagant gas seal would be popular today for anyone who likes revolving rifles but doesn't like the fact they can't hold it like a rifle.

Woah cool! I knew revolver rifles were and oddity, but I didn't know this particular one was rarer still. I think that I remember seeing a picture of a relative carrying one of these dating from around the Civil War and always thought that it was unusual. Hmn, though if I recall they picked their's up in France, so perhaps it was just a similar design (or a knock off... it did have a much fancier stock)?

I always wondered about building a shield to protect your hand from the flash of a revolving rifle, guess my question was answered hahaha. Would it be feasible to make a revolving rifle with a shield now? Or to make the barrel have a machined area to slide the cylinder into rather than the other way around?

this revolving rifle is so awesome.. it just looks like someone took a pepperbox pistol and attatched a barrel and a stock to it. kind of funny ^-^

Are you thinking about making a video on the Henry rifle? If you find it during some auction of course. It's one of those guns that have a massive history surrounding them.

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+NagencaTV Yep, I will sooner or later. There is pretty much always at least one of them in each auction.

Damn those patents :)

Great video! Any chance you could do a video on the Collier revolver?

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+RobertoDonatti NExt time I'm in England, yes.

I,wonder why no one came up with a mechanism that rotated the cylinder when the trigger was released to get around the patent.

did they ever make a nagant revolver into a rifle and would that protect your hand

I recall seeing a original or repro Buntline having a loop on the gun or shoulder stock for your non trigger finger, just to keep your hand from being in front of the cylinder. Years ago at Dixie Gun Works.

would it be theoretically reliable to carry multiple spare cylinders pre loaded and change them out like a spare magazine?

I like it! Simple and elegant. Is there a revolver handgun that this rifle was made after? The Dragoon? I'll look it up anyways.

Why don't they use the metal sheild on cartridge firing revolving rifles

Chainfire is when gasses from the first cartridge ignite the second one in the cylinder right..?

@MadnerKami

8 жыл бұрын

+Peter Timowreef More or less, yes. Due to the open nature of the revolver cylinder and the volatile nature of black powder, sparks and explosion-flame of the fired cartridge could ignite the black powder in nearby cartridges. +Forgotten Weapons What really gets me is, that this seems easily preventable precisely by a handguard which is designed in a way to seal off the chambers you don't want to fire.

i just realise having a hollow tube under the barrel that slightly larger than the cylinder will protect your hand in case of chain fire, and that double serve as a fore grip. All the projectiles will follow the tube fly outward, left your hand unharmed. Now if someone try that out in real life

That makes for fast cylinder swaps.

I wonder if revolver carbines would have been more successful with a Nagant style action.

@TeaAndBullets

8 жыл бұрын

Most definitely would have been, that is the main reason it failed.

@fatcat2040

8 жыл бұрын

+ch0k1ngh4z4rd The Nagant revolver relied on the cartridge case as well as the forward movement of the cylinder to create the seal. That is why Nagant ammo is so strange-looking. Doing the same thing (a forward-moving cylinder) for a black powder firearm wouldn't work as well. However, I am sure the problems would have been reduced.

@TeaAndBullets

8 жыл бұрын

Scott Harmon Couldn't a shotgun shell work like the Nagant casing?

@royperkins3851

6 жыл бұрын

ch0k1ngh4z4rd by the time nagant came along lever action guns made revolving rifles redundant! A henry,Spencer, or Winchester was far superior to a revolving rifle, the only one that was even close to a workable design wasn't produced until the 20th century And it wasn't a commercial success!

Take it or Leavitt, long guns like that are pretty cool.

So having watched many of the revolving rifles vids. Sounds like colt abused the shit out of patent law to prevent anyone else from creating a revolving rifle that would be commercially viable.

I still don't get why it was impossible to make some sort of shield in case of chain fire. They could make it a bit longer with the diameter of the cylinder, which could be held by the supporting hand, without any fear of this hand being struck by chain fire.

Loading took sold separately.

that cylinder looks kinda baller...

What did these early designers do to solve the cylinder barrel gap..?

It looks as if the stock is removable as well ?

What do you do with a revolving rifle? You Leavitt.

I have a pistol by this company, but is missing its hammer, hammer screw and cylinder. It is a smaller caliber than this rifle. Maybe a 32. Not much info on them.

I have one of the revolvers that msf got sued for how rare are they

My man.

I'm just going to ask a gun making compony to make my own.

Did Nagant ever made a revolver rifle??

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+TaurusSI Yes. I have some photos and an article on ForgottenWeapons.coom, but haven't done a video. The most common variant is an 8mm one made for the Mexican mounted police.

@RedXlV

8 жыл бұрын

+Forgotten Weapons That was actually a Pieper, but it used the same gas-seal mechanism. I think they licensed the patent from Nagant for it.

@TaurusSI

8 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons So I've seen the pictures of the Nagant carabine. Its a good looking rifle. Its a shame none of the modern kits, i've seen, don't look like it.

Can someone explain "chain fire" please?

@biteme1167

8 жыл бұрын

+MrWalkerklondyke Chain fire can be stopped by greasing the bullet after loading. I have used Crisco shortening and filled the remainder of the hole with it. Makes for an interesting contrast on the cylinder. Also using slightly larger bullets makes for a tight seal as some lead is shaved from the bullet when loading insuring a gas tight seal. Never had a chain fire using that method and not greasing the cylinder. Hope you found this useful.

The Outlaw from call of duty bo4 irl

Those patents made mo fos to powerful

On the rifle that is .

That looks more like a carbine than a rifle

Des Génies ...

It sounds like they needed a more nuanced patent system.

Sadly I can't watch any of InRange videos because they are not allowed in my country. It is there a reason for it? Czech Republic.

@CurtisEFlush5962

8 жыл бұрын

Because Merica.

@Giloup92

8 жыл бұрын

Install a VPN.

@Darelumga

8 жыл бұрын

+TireFuri Same here in Germany. BUT Are you watching over a Smartphone / Tablet? or a PC? On my (Android-) smartphone with the KZread-App the "InRange-Videos" are select- but not playable. Because you have to Pay to watch the videos. On my PC the Videos aren´t even shown. You can watch them free on full30.com, +Atistic Fingoloid said. Works on Smartphone/Tablet, too!

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+TireFuri For some reason, and I don't know why, KZread does not offer PPV video on the Czech Republic. It you look in the video descriptions, you will find links to Full30.com, where you can see them for free.

too bad that Colt had the best patents, if they expired earlier it would be more interesting in handguns and rifles creation. as alvayes great video and very interesting gun. rotating lug used to revolve the cylinder? i wonder what the Colt said about that! and the blackpowder pistol grip with added ctock loocks similar to what was used in Lugers Parabellum pistol.

Pretty weapon, really. If you want to have this one ? LOL Let me guess $10-15K ? Another cool thing you can do on this site, is guess auction prices

Ian your a fountain of knowledge brother me and you would be in conversation for day's l would love to meet you

Take it or Leavitt

That is one goofy gun. Let's take the most inconvenient pistol and attach a few feet of crap to it even though you still have to grip it like a pistol...

@crazyfvck

8 жыл бұрын

+k0vert I have a Uberti replica of a Remington revolving rifle. It is actually very comfortable to hold both hands back, and have the rest of the gun out front. In the case of my particular gun, there is actually a nice spur that comes off of the bottom of the trigger guard, which helps to keep your offhand from slipping forward.

@k0vert

8 жыл бұрын

crazyfvck Huh. Interesting. I reckon I don't have the experience with these types of things to make an informed opinion, but when you first look at it, you can't deny it does seem pretty awkward.

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