"A revolver and a bowie knife, cause everyone needed those" -- Ian whatdaya mean, past tense?

@chickensandwich77

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds almost like something Hicock 45 would say...

I really wish brass would come back into use in firearms. it's just such an attractive metal

@ATruckCampbell

11 ай бұрын

It cant really handle flash powder forces unless it is a small round. That is why brass framed revolvers in the 1800s and their early replicas did not last as long steel frames, because it is simply a weak/soft material. However today, modern replicas are made of brass that has other metals in it that makes it much stronger, so that is a possibility.

@dylanmccallister1888

8 ай бұрын

@@ATruckCampbell what’s funny is the brass framed revolvers I have found to be more expensive Uberti the brass framed 1860 army, which was never a thing in real life, is 100 dollars more than the historically accurate and stronger blued steel frame

A Confederate revolver and ham. I *never* thought there'd be a connection there. You learn something new every day.

@wingracer1614

8 жыл бұрын

+LegoGuy And peanuts. That whole area is peanut central. You can get giant bags of peanuts in just about every local gas station down there.

@zacharyrollick6169

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense to me. I like guns and bacon.

I love the patina on it and the aged brass look. They must have been quite the eye candy back when they were new.

The more I think about it the more I like this trigger style for wartime use. Easily used with gloves, plenty of room to move your finger forward while cocking and easily pressed without the glove bunching up in the trigger guard. I would think you would have a better trigger "feel" as well. Doesn't matter if the trigger is unguarded since it won't fire unless it is cocked first in which case you intend to fire anyway. *BGM.41

Homer: Oh Lisa! There's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield Lisa: Yes, but the records only go back to 1978 when the Hall of Records was mysteriously blown away!

Hell man, you can actually buy Gwaltney brand pork products (in the Southeast, at least) to this very day. Look away, Dixieland. That's cool.

@elementalist1984

4 жыл бұрын

And its delicious

"Which is, by the way, a fantastically excellent name."

@coltonregal1797

4 жыл бұрын

Pembrooke Decatur Gwaltney

Ian, I grew up in the Tidewater region of VA and Gwaltney is still a very active name in pork products.

@wizardofahhhs759

5 жыл бұрын

XtraChrisP P my mother and her side of the family were raised over on Tidewater Drive.

Your knowledge is awesome. Thankyou

Thanks for passing on this amazing information. I think most of us in the percussion revolver world were unaware of guns like this and The Tucker and Sherrard. Thanks again.

Interesting. Having lived in Norfolk Va. for over 30 years, I never knew the name Gwaltney meant more than pork products. They are BTW the best I've ever had for the mass market ham, bacon, sausage etc.

@wizardofahhhs759

5 жыл бұрын

chrome4ks I thought that was interesting too. My mother's side of the family is from Norfolk and as kids me and my two sisters would spend the summer with our grandparents there.

One of 13 in existence and serial number 1? Damn I wouldn't dare touch that for fear of accidentally breaking it lol. On that note, do you have insurance for handling these rare guns?

@wingracer1614

8 жыл бұрын

+David Tan Being a Va native, if I had the money I would not only buy it, I would load it up and shoot the thing. Very light loads though.

I love the history that goes along with each gun. Very impressed with your channel and have been enjoying watching all your videos on guns up to 1900. Great channel, keep up the good work

Another great video! I particularly enjoy these old timey revolver videos, keep up the good work!

Thank you for this video I had no idea that this guy was my ancestor.

You can still buy Gwaltney bacon today.

This is good example of what I really like about this chanel, old pistols are my thing and old revolvers especially. I've read about a lot of these and its really great to see them risen from the ashes. Good video very interesting gun love the history that goes with them.

the period stamps look sharper than the others....making me think he originally had nothing but the letter stamps and later came back with the period stamp. thanks for a great video!

@tillmannfischer

8 жыл бұрын

+Renaissance MarineTV The period is a simple point that is driven into the metal, thus having (in an ideal case) the same force as the other letters on a much smaller surface area. This results in a deeper stamp-image and thus a "sharper" look...

Hey Ian- I just saw you on the Outdoor Channel talking about Flintlocks. Pretty neat!

Hi Ian.Recently stumbled on this channel. Finding it very interesting and I think you present it very well.All the best. Subscribed.

The Civil War through WW I is my main area of study. I appreciate this video Ian, as I've only seen pictures of the Cofer Revolvers.

Very cool revolver and an amazing video as always Ian.:D

Thank you for your videos I enjoy learning the history of the firearms.

Serial no.1... damn!

Lots of great videos on Confederate and Texas guns. Would still like a book review or at least a listing of where all this information came from. Your library must be amazing.

another weird sidenote about the peanut king: field, Virginia (found on www.roadsideamerica.com: "The most prized artifact in the small Isle of Wight County Museum is the world's oldest edible cured ham. The ham was cured in 1902 by a local pork processor, Pembroke D. Gwaltney Jr. Then the ham was misplaced and forgotten. When it was rediscovered, decades later, Pembroke knew he had a ham worth its weight in gold. He outfitted the ham with a brass collar, called it his "pet ham," and showed it to customers as proof of his ability to preserve meat without refrigeration. It made his company famous enough to eventually merge into the pork behemoth Smithfield Foods. The ham outlasted its tireless promoter and, in 1985, it was donated to the museum by one of Pembroke's grandchildren. One of the jobs of the curator of the Isle of Wight County Museum is to keep the ham edible by keeping it free of bugs and mold. The ham -- which now somewhat resembles a shriveled human arm -- shares a special climate-controlled case with two other famous hams, one of them said to be the world's largest. Despite its great age, the ham is still younger than another food item displayed in the museum: the world's oldest peanut. It was picked and dated "1890" by Pembroke's father, P.D. Gwaltney Sr., known in his time as "The Peanut King." Unlike the ham, however, the museum makes no claim that it is edible."

@elementalist1984

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'll have to take their word on that ham. I wouldn't risk it

@thishonestgrifter

3 жыл бұрын

@@elementalist1984 Man I don't even like ham, to begin with, this kinda makes me sick.

@voiceofraisin3778

3 жыл бұрын

@@thishonestgrifter On the other hand Steve1989MRE probably has the place staked out and his knife and fork in a quick draw holster

@thishonestgrifter

3 жыл бұрын

@@voiceofraisin3778 Yeah I'm sure he does.

@zacharyrollick6169

3 жыл бұрын

The forbidden lunch meat.

Looks like colt took some design cues from this un with the 1873 saa especially for the frame.

Have you encountered any of the Savage "Figure 8" revolvers Ian? I would love to see you go over one, next to the Starr DA I think they're one of the most interesting Civil War designs.

To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day

I understand most older revolvers have pretty simple rudimentary sights, but these don't appear to even be functional, is that correct?

I love ure vids bro. Hard to watch cos I live in UK, whadayado? Keep it up 👍

I saw this and read "coffer." Like they were used by accountants or something.

There is also a meat packing company based in Smithfield VA named Gwaltney.

"Has interest in one industry and then gets totally involved in another" sounds like Ian lol

Hello Ian, really amazing video. I am quite interested in confederate revolvers and I didn't know anything about this one so now I have research "homework" :) This one kind of reminds me of the Spiller and Burr (which is also copy of Whitney) so the question here is to what degree the mechanics match of these two guns ? Also apart from all the videos you did on confederate guns can you recommend really interesting and rare confederate weapon(s) ?

I was hoping you would show the details of the side plate. This was unique to this revolver at the time. I can see the joint in front and rear secured by 2 screws, but I cannot see the joint at the top at all,

If Rock Island has one, do you think you could take a look at a Griswold and Gunnison revolver? I've heard the early models were actually fairly good quality revolvers.

gees that looks like an extremely light trigger!

That piece looks like it has seen a lot of life.

Fantastically excellent. Because that's much more excellent than just excellent. It's excellenter! The excellentest!

There's a removable sideplate on the left side of the gun that I cant't quite figure out as I can make a seam or joint right in front of the trigger but can't see the other one. Does that seam follow the curve of the recoil shield?

Really like seeing the Confederate guns. Thanks for the great videos (as is normal)

How amazingly devastating it would be to bring modern firearms back to older times when they're GENERATIONS ahead of what's being used. Imagine giving a Union or Confederate soldier an AKM and teaching him how to use it. Keep it on semi auto, and wait until they see each other in line formation, possibly even 2-3 per column. As soon as they're in sight, aim, and start calmly firing one round at a time, left to right. 7.62x39 would EASILY punch through 2-3 people! If they've got a line 30 wide, and 2 deep, then at least 60 dead or wounded could be had with one magazine, all that it would take is the enemy not routing, and the shooter to not miss. Utter devastation. Then again, even simply having a repeating bolt action would be devastating, even an M1886 Lebel, which was considered on its way to being outdated even by WWI standards, considering it couldn't be loaded with a clip of any kind, only one round at a time. Being smokeless and using FMJ bullets, it'd easily be the most accurate rifle of the American Civil War, and also and have the most penetration, even though it was only invented, what, 21 years after the war ended? A couple decades after that and you have the Chauchau, which when kept nice and clean, seems to be fairly reliable! Just a few of those advanced firearms could be enough to tip the war quite quickly in anyone's favour, until you start getting into situations like Gettysburg I guess. Wasn't that just an insane battle in powder smoke that resulted in LOTS of melee combat, even a lot of friendly fire? I'm not too familiar with the details of the US Civil War.

Is frame strength an issue with all Whitney pattern guns, or is it more of a materials issue in the confederacy?

Ian: If you'd like to add this to your collection of Confederate revolvers... Me: Ah yes my Confederate revolver collection... That is most certainly A thing, that I defiantly have... Yes!

Ian, your videos from auctions are a bit too quiet. It is very noticeable when using speakers. Can you please do something about it if you can? Thank you. Btw, keep up the good work, love your videos.

@adrienperie6119

8 жыл бұрын

+ViCopat You can boost the volume, but to hear him properly you end up with quite a bit of noise.

@SNOUPS4

8 жыл бұрын

+ViCopat I second these statements :)

@lv2943

8 жыл бұрын

Just adding my own two cents, I have to turn my KZread and speaker volume much higher than usual for Ian's latest batch of videos.

@sergeantbigmac

8 жыл бұрын

+ViCopat Hes been having issues with audio the past couple batches of auction house videos. I hope he gets it sorted out.

Thanks

Do you have a Griswold on display.

Why are there no Whitneyville reproductions?

Interesting firearm! Is it in .44 caliber?

Several of these revolvers blew up because of the relatively weak brass frame.

I wonder if that's the same gwaltney who makes hotdogs and bologna. Probably not but an interesting crossover.

@wizardofahhhs759

5 жыл бұрын

Joseph King Yes it is.

@josephking9768

5 жыл бұрын

@@wizardofahhhs759 ahhh

If I had to start off at the bottom, then I would make ten brass hammer forged castings at a time. Lose two in casting, two or three more in forging and machining. Ending with five or six sellable hand guns. $23 x 6 = A humble gun maker!

Was someone driving nails with this, or is that a design which has worn away?

As an aside, when you made the association of the name Gwaltney to ham production I immediately had a thought and, yep, P. D. Gwaltney's company still exists although it looks like it ceased being a family concern under P. D. Gwaltney III. www.gwaltneyfoods.com/history/

the gunsmith is Emmett Brown!!! he needed to go back to 1885

I notice a trend for sights from around this period to be small, was there a reason for that or was it just stylistic preference?

@BigWheel.

Жыл бұрын

Accuracy was probably not that great so aiming was more about pointing the barrel where it needed to be, that's my guess anyways.

Go to bed once in awhile. lol

That thing is beautiful. One of the more attractive guns of the era.

Muito linda. Pena que os comentários não sejam dublados ou legendados.

An interesting cul-de-sac in the history of guns.

Ok .. trying to sign up on Patreon with facebook ... I click on the link .. nuffin' What am I doing wrong?

That trigger looks like it would easy to fire whilst wearing gloves. Was that the reason for the trigger or was it just a different way of doing things.

@sergeantbigmac

8 жыл бұрын

+fastmongrel Mostly it saves space because a trigger guard isnt *really* needed in a single action revolver.

were the brass frames used due to a lack of superior materials?

@SuperFunkmachine

8 жыл бұрын

+Christopher MacLennan Brass is easier to work than steel so brass guns could be made faster than steel.

Gwaltney bacon too.

I suspect that is an assembly number rather than a serial number.

Any shotgun videos planned?

Looks like someone used that gun as a hammer. The brass frame(above the trigger) & the bottom of the grip have what appears to be nail head marks.

*looks at bag of Virginia peanuts right next to my monitor* Hmmm...

We can design and manufacture a pistol. But no apostrophe stamp!....DOH! 😎

@a.lampman2165

8 жыл бұрын

+DREKOR Sounds about right. I personally would have left out the S altogether, but to each their own.

Looking at the left side of the gun, and the butt of the grip, it looks like someone used this gun as a hammer at some point :(

@CyLonFPV

8 жыл бұрын

+crazyfvck I was thinking the same thing when i saw all the divots on the cylinder

@crazyfvck

8 жыл бұрын

Cy Lon Yeah. I guess I can't blame the person.. After cartridge guns made this revolver obsolete, it essentially became a useless hunk of metal that was just laying around. They at least tried to make it useful in some way.

@CyLonFPV

8 жыл бұрын

The closer I look at it the more it looks like it was horseshoe nails that made the impressions. I would really love to know the history behind this piece. Yep someone probably bought it at auction after the civil war as a whitney pattern revolver for 5 bucks. if they only know how much it would be worth 150 years later. lol

@crazyfvck

8 жыл бұрын

Cy Lon Indeed. If only some of these guns could talk.. And I think the same thing everytime Ian does a video on Khyber pass pistols, or Chinese mystery pistols.. They probably sell at auction for 100 times what they originally went for :)

150k for this gun? wow

Covfefe revolver?

A good presentation. It's TRUE that most Confederate revolvers dont function. The Cofer is indeed rare .

@BigWheel.

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why they lost the war. Can't win a war if your guns never worked.

I know this will sound dumb .I know nothing about guns . What is the idea of some guns have trigger guards and some have that assembly that is on that gun ? What is the thinking behind this . I have been meaning to ask this for ages .

@diptastik5651

8 жыл бұрын

Dana Herron Thank you

@diptastik5651

8 жыл бұрын

sergeantbigmac Thank you

8 жыл бұрын

Anthony Hings welcome. ian is a good teacher. been around weapons all my life, but I never knew how ignorant I truly was. I've learned enough that I think I can design a workable safe firearm.

I may have missed it, but what caliber is it?

I came here just for the "Cofer" word but I see it is only a black powder revolver similar to the rest. Here's the cartridge: www.todocoleccion.net/militaria-armas-fuego/reproduccion-cartucho-36-cofer-revolver-inerte~x68891217 The revolver itself: www.cowanauctions.com/lot/extremely-rare-confederate-cofer-type-ii-percussion-cartridge-revolver-179113/

I only butler had been Lincolns VP, the the southern planter class wpuld TRULY have been ground to dust and reconcstruction would have been done correctly. Instead we got an actual traitor in Johnson.

Why only Confederate guns, I can´t remember seeing any Union army guns on auction

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+Exploatores Confederate arms are much scarcer than Union ones, and this auction includes a particularly impressive group of Confederate guns - so I'm taking the opportunity to look at most of them.

@rahbaralhaq

8 жыл бұрын

Most Union guns are anything but forgotten.

@exploatores

8 жыл бұрын

Rik Raptor they are intresting as the diffrence bettwien those inventors who are half forgoten and those who are almost household names.

@ZGryphon

8 жыл бұрын

+Exploatores Note the sign behind Ian advertising that part of this auction is, in fact, specifically a collection of Confederate revolvers.

@asteroidrules

8 жыл бұрын

+TheRealColBosch He also covered the Starrs.

He is another Confederate revolver! This one is not from Texas... *Demolition Ranch has left the chat*

I’m not a fan of that exposed trigger. Give me a trigger guard please. Good looking gun otherwise.

Hey we are related lol

Is it wrong to say this but at this point colts were the worst designed revolvers not quality but design

@harryjoe860

8 жыл бұрын

Only once brass cartridges came around it was a bad design to convert. In black powder it is fine.

Regional. It's a regional auction. You forgot to say the word "Regional" before "auction". As a day two subscriber I am absolutely sickened by this lack of accuracy you're diving into these days. Are you trying to get rid of the old crowd in favor of a new, younger one with all this madness and decadence ? A shameful display !

@xxxdiabolikxxx

8 жыл бұрын

"A shameful display"? Really? One word is enough discount the amount research and effort to make the video? Go fuck yourself. Ian keep up the good work!

@elbrak

8 жыл бұрын

+xxxdiabolikxxx settle down, its pretty obvious that its a joke.

@rahbaralhaq

8 жыл бұрын

+xxxdiabolikxxx You need to re-tune your sarcasm sensors...

@xxxdiabolikxxx

8 жыл бұрын

+Rik Raptor Sarcasm escapes me sometimes on KZread. I may have overreacted...

@ForgottenWeapons

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrien Perié It's not actually a regional auction. :)

To hell with the gun. Bring back the war.

@BurnTheNuance

8 жыл бұрын

Fucking a brotha! the south will rise again!

@a.lampman2165

8 жыл бұрын

+BurnThePope0514 If the South rises again, it's getting stomped into the shit and mud again. Sorry.

@truebornsonofliberty554

8 жыл бұрын

+Phoenix Reignition sorry, but it's no longer about north vs south. And it's NOT about race. It's now about defeating the true enemies of America, the filthy liberals. This will be the right, physically destroying the left.

@truebornsonofliberty554

8 жыл бұрын

+Phoenix Reignition your assumptions are as wrong as you are. I just told you it's not race based. Oh, and I'm Jewish. Ideological wars have been necessarily fought for thousands of years. That we need to cleanse our country of those that actively support the usurpation of our country isn't surprising nor is it controversial. Just necessary.

@a.lampman2165

8 жыл бұрын

M85FSLUVR "Oh, and I'm Jewish." Everything is starting to make sense. Typical: Our Greatest Ally wants America to tear itself apart.

The Confederate Revolvers playlist is getting pretty long.

@andrew-ripley1747

8 жыл бұрын

Because standardization!

​@ForgottenWeapons >>> 👍👍