Tucker & Sherrard Texas Confederate Revolver
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The Tucker & Sherrard (and later Sherrard & Clark) is one of the more interesting Texas Confederate revolvers. The company initially was granted a contract with the Texas state government to provide 100 revolvers per month at $50 each, and took a total of $10,000 of investment capital from the state to start up their operation. However, aside from a few initial samples they never managed to deliver any guns to the state.
What appears to have been happening was that they were making guns, but selling them out the back door to private individuals, because the guns would easily bring $100 on the open market thanks to the arms shortages of the Confederacy. In the meantime, the company was delivering a whole series of excuses to Texas about why there were no deliveries - unavailable materials, conscripted workers, and fears of national CSA agents confiscating the guns. Texas finally had enough of this, and dissolved the contract, requiring the company to repay its seed capital with interest. Thanks to the serious inflation plaguing the Confederate currency, though, the repaid amount was only worth about half of its initial value.
This particular Tucker & Sherrard is one of the "low hammer" models, which handles much better than a standard Dragoon pattern revolver. Only three of these are known to exist (serial numbers 52, 54, and 56), and they seem to have been an experiment by the company for purposes unknown.
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The Confederate war department ate my homework.
@merijnheuvelmans6287
3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!
@t4texastom587
2 жыл бұрын
Meaning what?
@jackdundon2261
2 жыл бұрын
In high school a girl actually said her dog peed on her homework
@DafodilWorkshopProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@jackdundon2261 in elementary my dog actually ate my homework
@jackdundon2261
Жыл бұрын
@@DafodilWorkshopProductions in high school a girl said her dog actually PEED on her homework... she was know for the truth, but?
While I find the guns you showcase very interesting it is the history, the stories of those behind the guns, that really makes this channel so fascinating. This is by far my favorite firearms channel on KZread.
I was expecting another Colt "Knock-off", But the back story of war time opportunism really had me "glued"!
the ORIGINAL kickstarter scam
@EthanPDobbins
5 жыл бұрын
There was another that was even worse he did a video on it. Brass frame with a top strap. Terrible workmanship and they only had 15 made by the dead line for 4000 and only half worked. They scammed them for lots of startup $ many times what these guys did
I suspect that the reason why these revolvers used Roman Numerals on the serial numbers for the screw heads was likely due to the fact that marking Arabic numeral (Modern Numbers) onto rounded surfaces such as that, with what appears to have been a file, is very difficult. Whereas the more angular shapes of Roman Numerals are very easy to scratch into surfaces.
$50 in 1865 would be about $780 today.
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
8 жыл бұрын
+JohnLeePedimore -- Well those were confederate dollars, so they'd be worth $0 today at a bank.
@JohnLeePedimore
8 жыл бұрын
Thomas Mobley I hate the bank.They wouldn't take my Chuck E. Cheese tokens either.
@jackandersen1262
4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Mobley and a lot more as a collectible.
@ScottKenny1978
4 жыл бұрын
More like $4500, if you're going off the price of gold. $50 is 2.5oz of gold.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
Remember that the economics of the time would be completely distorted by the embargo and blockades of the southern states by the Union navy.
Quite a story behind this gun! I almost thought they'd wind up having sold under-the-table to Union officers.
I've been enjoying black powder revolvers for a few years and i'm excited to you see covering these unique examples!
Too bad more revolvers of the period weren't fitted with that style of hammer. Something I've always liked about the Le Mat's as well. Perhaps one of the current replica makers will add a Tucker & Sherrard to their line? Thanks Ian!
@shermansparks5542
4 жыл бұрын
I hope so
@453421abcdefg12345
3 жыл бұрын
After this video I am about to make a low spur hammer for my Dragoon!
@korbetthein3072
3 жыл бұрын
@@453421abcdefg12345 How's the project going?
@453421abcdefg12345
3 жыл бұрын
@@korbetthein3072 Well, it all came out OK, but you have to keep the spur a bit higher as it give a poke when you shoot. Good luck!
@rubiconnn
2 жыл бұрын
If there's anything I've noticed about gun design trends is that gun designers are stubborn and only do things that other gun designers have done in the past.
$115,000 for a revolver you probably can't shoot... I wish I had one.
Ian, I just now stumbled across this video (I try to get caught up on older ones in between the new uploads). This is fascinating! I love hearing about the history and provenance of these firearms, and the Civil War / cap and ball is one area I especially enjoy. Thanks for the great work!!!
I always wonder on guns like this when they say it's like one of only three known surviving copies, where did the others go? How many are in someones collection and they think it's just some regular cap and ball revolver, or any firearm really, or how many are sitting forgotten in some box up in the attic, ect. Not realizing that it's something a little unique.
The reason the cylinder is 1/4 inch shorter than the Colt is because they figured out they could make a stronger and easier gun without having to cut out the area that Colt had to allow the loader to load the bullets in the gun. 1?4 inch is all it took to allow clearance for a .44 caliber ball to be placed into the cylinder chamber and then loaded with the lever.
My dad grew up behind where their factory had been. In the 1920's he and other kids would scavage pistol parts from there. He said there were enough parts thrown out to make hundreds of pistols. Interesting stuff.
@salame2693
5 жыл бұрын
Did him or anyone make their own makeshift guns?
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
5 жыл бұрын
Fred P..... I am interested in visiting this site. Can you help?
@salame2693
5 жыл бұрын
@@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 I mean it was almost a hundred years ago I doubt there's anything left
"...Crockett, not Davy Crockett, Different Crockett." His Name was Different Crockett? :P
@elektro3000
8 жыл бұрын
+Skyliner04s Was he a friend of Not Sure?
@JohnLeePedimore
8 жыл бұрын
+Skyliner04s Sonny Crockett?You gotta carry weapons cause you always carry CASH.
@Lazyguy22
6 жыл бұрын
Different, Different Crockett! Nothing to do with the wild frontier...
@MrYfrank14
3 жыл бұрын
his father was Mr. A. Different Crockett
I’m not so much a weapons buff as I am a history buff and I LOVE your channel. You have incredible knowledge
thanks for these videos Ian, i live in the uk and as you probably know large calibre hand guns are banned, so your videos are an absolute treat to me, thank you so much!!!
@sandervanduren2779
7 жыл бұрын
rav ravensdale what does the government in the U.K. consider large caliber? Is there a cutoff, or is it just what they deem too large?
@casey8898
5 жыл бұрын
I too am curious. Especially now a days.
@453421abcdefg12345
3 жыл бұрын
There is no calibre restriction at all on these firearms in the UK, they can be possessed without a permit without problem.
@davidcruz8667
2 жыл бұрын
What? No 50 Nitro Express equalizers? What does that mean, would a 45 caliber Colt 1911 be unobtainable? Savages!
very pretty gun. Fantastic shape for something that old
Ian: "I think story behind these is quite interesting..." Me: upvotes
@MrDmitriRavenoff
3 жыл бұрын
I upvote when any of Ian's videos start.
I love the meaty detail ramrods and the mechanics add to the old pieces, beautiful.
What an amazing history!
Amazing presentation. I really would love to know the sources of all your information, especially about rare guns.
@ForgottenWeapons
8 жыл бұрын
+Padi 5Star Books. Lots of books.
@dougdukes1039
8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons You could do a video or a list of all the books you have.... I like to know more about the reference material myself.... nice job.
@viktorvaughn9927
8 жыл бұрын
+Doug Dukes he's done a lot of book reviews, check out the playlist
@dougdukes1039
8 жыл бұрын
+Viktor Vaughn Thanks for the suggestion. It took me a bit to find his book reviews, but there are quite a few there. Sure this is not all he has.... but it is a great start. Thanks again.
@0BRAINS0
2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons do you know much of Sam Houston? I am one of his descendants, by way of Andrew Jackson Houston. I know that my part of the family moved to Baltimore way back because of the whole "confederacy thing" with Sam Houston Jr.
Great looking gun,& really great story!!! This is definitely one of my favorite channels....... Keep up the good work!!!
Excellent report. Really interesting.
The perils of "States Rights" during conflict. I've read that near the end of the Civil War, Lee couldn't get supplies for the Army of Northern Virginia because other states were hoarding them. Interesting vid, Ian!
Hey Ian! Great videos man! I was wondering if you would ever want to do a video of a overview of all the guns in your collection? Love the vids man keep it up.
Love this channel because I can geek out.
Cool history! I enjoy these. Thanks.
Thanks for the interesting history !
Gorgeous gun. Gotta love the brass components on late 19th, early 20th century revolvers and pistols. Especially old Mausers.
My guess on the relief cut not being done is it is better all around when you think about it. It means you have simpler production which in turn provides a faster turn out rate (very needed during the time), it is not really needed due to the shorter cylinder, by doing it this way the cylinder reduction is more weight off than a relief cut. I also imagine the lack of materials played a factor into why the cylinder is shorter as well. Very good and detailed video
If this didn't use black powder, I would want one. The smooth design is gorgeous
I love your stories.
Someone needs to start making replicas of these; Uberti... Pietta... Get Going !
@zacharyrollick6169
4 жыл бұрын
At the very least, just a hammer will do.
Thanks Ian. I have lived near Lancaster all my life I wonder where the old works was.
You post great videos thank you
If they went to the extreme of marking sn's on screws they were probably having major problems with parts interchangability.
@matthewmudgett7413
6 жыл бұрын
Your explanation makes pretty good sense. However, except for that bit, the guns seem pretty expertly made- I can't pick out another part that looks hand-fitted. Though now that you've pointed it out to me, I almost can't believe those screws aren't hand-fitted, either. There must be a weird answer as to why that's the case. This is the thing I love about artifacts like this, you can never know the full story, but you can speculate endlessly
Great video as always, thanks! A little bit of my own research, seems a lot (or all!) of the Confederate firearms featured in this auction come from the merger of two Civil War museums, one of which was the previous/current owner of PGT Beauregard's LeMat. Hopefully it goes to another museum, it'd be a shame to see a relatively important historical artifact like that end up in a private collection!
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
8 жыл бұрын
+Mind Zye -- It would be great to see that end up in my private collection.
Great Story. Thanks Ian. And yes this Pistol is remarkable for its age.
Very interesting as always.:D
I feel like if you pull that thing out in a bad neighborhood, you'd get instant respect. That thing just looks like it means business.
Excellent history.
This was a pretty cool video. I like revolvers :)
Thanks.. They are my 2nd favorite revolver . Have you done the Texas Pattersons? They are my favorite.
Those exposed screw heads look like they might cause some pain under recoil.
Very beautiful gun.
Really Interesting! Basically a Dragoon with a Le Mat hammer spur
Gorgeous pistol.
5:26 you've scared me :c great video
Southern firearms manufacturer doing it's part to end slavery.
No cutout at the loading area probably for strength reasons. the more metal you take away the weaker the gun.
Good stuff.
Now that's history.
Very interesting history
That low hammer looks an awful lot like a Newman slip hammer for a Colt Single Action Army. I wonder if these provided any inspiration for it?
Muito linda. Pena que não tenha tradução nem legenda, pois, aqui ainda é Brasil.
Could someone tell me what this type of gun might fetch at auction? Thank in advance!
Ian, the audio is *really* quiet for me. Quality is good, and the gun is interesting, but I really had to crank up the volume to be able to understand you there.
@jdarksword
8 жыл бұрын
Same, I've noticed that for all of his recent James D vids
@Osok21
8 жыл бұрын
+Holtz Back in my day, you had to get up off the couch and walk over to your computer to crank up the volume.
@holtz3943
8 жыл бұрын
Phillip F Back in my day, you didn't have volume adjustment on the computer. It was MIDI bleeps at full volume or *nothing*!
@jasondoe2596
8 жыл бұрын
+Phillip F It's a potential problem for those watching on mobile devices (like I did - the volume was sufficiently high, but only barely, and I had to turn it all the way up).
@rogerwilco2
8 жыл бұрын
+Holtz I think he posted on another video that he was having some problems with his audio during this session of recordings that he only noticed afterwards. I think he said something like 20 videos are having audio issues.
Be fair; John McClannahan Crocket only served as Lieutenant-Governor for two years. He had to line his pockets while he could.
I am very interested in the history of Reb revolvers !
Can a gun like still be fired? Would doing so (assuming no damage was incurred) negatively affect the value?
So much can be learned from this period of US history, although studying it now a days is looked down upon by many. Very interesting the lessons that can be learned by an army trying to make do with nothing
never discount the greed of war profiteers.
I don't know why but i find this a beautiful pistol, can't put my finger on it but it looks very good while all the pistols from that era look very similar ..... still ... in a peculiar way to me it sticks out.
There's probably about 60 of these, handed downand now owned by descendants, sitting in prvate ownership, with people who have no idea what they are...
Can you imagine the currency inflating by 50% in a single year. That has got to hurt.
Seeing someone choose to wear an old RAF jumper still surprises me.
Extremely interesting and odd history behind these guns haha.
the index notch on the cylinder is of center, I have not seen that on a colt style revolver before.
@BogeyTheBear
3 жыл бұрын
Have you _seen_ a Colt revolver, then? The bolt is offset to one side of the hammer, so it rises out of the frame off-center.
They should add this gun in rdr 2 online
@LuziannaBoy
4 жыл бұрын
Oh man If they did I would buy a pair so fast, when I seen they added the LeMat I couldn't buy a pair fast enough. I have yet to buy any other set of revolvers since they're release.
Hi there. Have you ever reviewed a sten gun?
Ian has a modern Southern uniform on.
March of 2016 auction??? Am I late?? Can I still buy a gun? No?! Well fine then! 😡🤬
Sounds like they weren't very much for the Confederate cause. The story with the employees almost gives me Schindler vibes. Maybe employing people to help keep people non-supportive of the Confederacy from going and dying for a cause they deemed unworthy. Probably not, but it's fun to think about it that way.
how does shooting gualities of this compare to 1860 army version for example
11:50 Oh god... i hope that does not recoil much...
That’s neat!
History is fun :)
3300.00 per gun in 1860s must have been class 3
I bet that will sell for a pretty penny :-o
Jesus it sold for $115,000. Wish my pockets were that deep. Lmao
One of their corporate financeers wasn't a guy named Drumft was it?
I feel like there's a Civil War-era Ocean's 11 in this story
Seed Capital ~ *Inducement.*
One of the few men that can pull of that style of facial hair👌🏻
Hey, where's the big hat? Because....Texas. 🤔😁
Why not add the price sold at auction to the description? I would love to know.
@BogeyTheBear
Жыл бұрын
One if the many shifting rules KZread put out about gun videos was a prohibition of posting the prices of any firearms. The oldest videos on this channel used to give the auction sale price, but they had to be removed later on.
2ndDragoon good job👍
4:45 someone in the background says Gahhhh!
Cant help but think that they were selling these for hard currency
What did it sell for?
*Sonny* Crockett, right?
50 dollars a revolver weren't colts and Remington like 20 to 30 bucks a revolver
I thought the reason the Tucker and Sherrard revolvers weren’t being was because the company was selling the guns to the union. But I was wrong.
Started watching your vids wen you were building the CETME L. but now watch all the forgotten weapons. Big Cap and ball fan so Love your Confederate oddballs. Still aint Built a CETME L, Maybe soon.
Something tells me that if the state had been more flexable on the 50 deflated dollar price.. they would have had their revolvers
It's like a Colt
Id pay for a remake of this revolver, but tweaked to use actual bullets
what is that top revolver on the sign?
@ForgottenWeapons
8 жыл бұрын
+znbrtn General Beauregard's LeMat.
@znbrtn
8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons thanks for the reply! it looks like a gorgeous gun. very pleasing shape.
@TheLastPariah89
8 жыл бұрын
+znbrtn Go watch yesterdays video.
@arnomaas6452
8 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons Thanks Ian for that yesterday's video on the LeMats ! I never expected to see a video and a proper description on such a rare and beautiful firearm ever .
i want to replicate that gun, looks awesome and i really want to fire it. however germany dose not make that easy to do...
@CAESARbonds
2 жыл бұрын
Only single fire percussion guns are allowed in Germany. A revolver even an old one is illegal
@lbochtler
2 жыл бұрын
@@CAESARbonds tis a sad state of affairs