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Were the crusades unchristian?

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  • @RealCrusadesHistory
    @RealCrusadesHistory4 жыл бұрын

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  • @johnrockwell5834

    @johnrockwell5834

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only the 4th Crusade could qualify.

  • @American-Dragon

    @American-Dragon

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is that pedalboard? What is your main axe?

  • @edwingrove1442

    @edwingrove1442

    4 жыл бұрын

    A historian should consciously make every effort to be objective as far as possible. He should aim at presenting facts with as much accuracy and faithfulness as possible. The second you blatantly stipulate that the activity of crusading was righteous and good you introduce an outlook that is so subjective that you can't tackle the history in a balanced or fair way.

  • @ArmenianBishop

    @ArmenianBishop

    4 жыл бұрын

    This answers an important question helpfully. I'll play it again, to follow it more carefully.

  • @Daniel-ur2dl
    @Daniel-ur2dl4 жыл бұрын

    Modern Christians are secular and have a subjective faith (Protestantism created many variants of Christianity). Today in the safety of their homes they say that the crusaders were violent and sinful, but they do not analyze the context of the time when the crusades took place.

  • @jacobberry5138

    @jacobberry5138

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are only here because of the crusades.

  • @michaelroach4219

    @michaelroach4219

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobberry5138 Imagine what the West be like if Islam conquered Europe.

  • @spartankongcountry6799

    @spartankongcountry6799

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelroach4219 It seems to be happening right now.

  • @alexandrub8786

    @alexandrub8786

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spartankongcountry6799 only the west.

  • @alexandrub8786

    @alexandrub8786

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelroach4219 look at Bosnia and Albania. More at Albania.

  • @DiamondMind
    @DiamondMind4 жыл бұрын

    Christ said to Peter, _"Put your sword back in its place."_ In other words, he just told him to put the sword away; put it back in it's scabbard, not throw it away entirely. This was one way that medieval Christian theologians interpreted using violence for self-defense and just wars.

  • @TheChuckfuc

    @TheChuckfuc

    4 жыл бұрын

    in greek that's what meek meant, sheathed sword.

  • @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    4 жыл бұрын

    Peter was carrying a Sword & Jesus didn’t say to throw it the whole time. Context is everything, he told what he told to Peter because he was suppose to die & it was a losing battle for Peter to fight when surrounded.

  • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Peter only had that sword because jesus told him to get one

  • @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chris Oly context is everything, he said that because 1. Jesus was suppose to be scarified 2. Was Jesus was saying is that you don’t always need a sword to fight because we are surrounded, you’ll lose that battle.

  • @James-uu6xs

    @James-uu6xs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jesus said shall I not take up the cup my father has given me? Jesus needed to be crucified, Simon Peter was getting in the way of that.

  • @antoinelambert938
    @antoinelambert9384 жыл бұрын

    There is a difference between being nice and letting yourself be victimised as there is between wanting peace and being pacifist and so on.

  • @wurttmapper2200

    @wurttmapper2200

    4 жыл бұрын

    And slaughtering civilians. Christ himself didn't defend while in the cross and always thaught to turn the other cheek. According to him, someone is unfair with you, don't do anything. God will punish those who do evil.

  • @danman7584

    @danman7584

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wurttmapper2200 That was how war was fought back then.

  • @wurttmapper2200

    @wurttmapper2200

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@danman7584 Yes, it was. That doesn't mean slaughtering civilians can be consideded Christian.

  • @danman7584

    @danman7584

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wurtt Mapper Not saying it was, just pointing out that the activity wasn’t out of the norm for the era and trying to apply a modern moral paradigm to events that happened nearly a thousand years ago is asinine.

  • @wurttmapper2200

    @wurttmapper2200

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@danman7584 You are actually right, that's why I didn't say it was wrong, I said it was unchristian

  • @hitoshiigarashi5350
    @hitoshiigarashi53504 жыл бұрын

    Jesus doesn't just pick up a whip. He made one!!!!

  • @Pfsif

    @Pfsif

    4 жыл бұрын

    To clean out and to punish the extortion ring being done inside His Fathers hours. By the way he did it twice.

  • @emperorconstantine1.361

    @emperorconstantine1.361

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hitoshi Igarashi amen brother!!

  • @thisisbaxter1354

    @thisisbaxter1354

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JAllanC12 no a physical whip made of cords that can hit you lmaoo

  • @agonsfitness7308

    @agonsfitness7308

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this! He wasn't overcome with anger. He had the presence of mind to sit down and fashion one himself.

  • @cdc9946

    @cdc9946

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jesus was not killing any person nor animals, but cleansing the holy place.

  • @wilfredmckenzie866
    @wilfredmckenzie8664 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this and all of your videos. As a Catholic, it bothers me that there seems to be nothing in between the opinions that either the Crusades were evil and motivated by greed vs the Crusades were perfect and fought only by heroic, saintly men. As usual, the truth is between the extremes, and you hit it pretty consistently. The Crusades had just cause, (at least we can agree that they did by their definition) but, as in any large enterprise, there were some bad men there too with their own motivations. We should not forget either of those facts Thank you for staying impartial as every historian should.

  • @solhamer3502

    @solhamer3502

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not many people can understand nuance that way, unfortunately.

  • @Gustobot3000

    @Gustobot3000

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well said. Thank you my brother Catholic. :)

  • @grandusurslywek5261

    @grandusurslywek5261

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah people should know that there is no extreme good nor evil in every events weather it’s for a good cause

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh, they had just cause by anyone’s standards. Children were being abducted from Europe by the Muslims to form their harems and the Mamluks and janissaries. Christians being captured and bound into slavery by Muslims from Spain to Italy to Eastern Europe.

  • @samuelshook5028
    @samuelshook50284 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Just recently in my English IV class our curriculum is the history of British Literature. So we learn of Rome conquering the Celts then the Anglo Saxon period up utill William the conqueror. Where this gets really interesting is when my English teacher gets to the crusades. She says the knights and foot soldiers thought they were doing Gods work but the Crusades were brutal and the Popes just wanted land. Naturally I cringed and was dumbstruck by her lack of truth and affinity to giving in to misconceptions. So in my notes I wrote what the Crusades were really about and I cant wait for her to review it😂

  • @notbot8830

    @notbot8830

    4 жыл бұрын

    Similarly had a college professor go off on me for saying the crusades were a defensive war

  • @MikeDubya

    @MikeDubya

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let us know what happens!

  • @stormwingmlx5118

    @stormwingmlx5118

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey how did it go then

  • @shanemize3775
    @shanemize37754 жыл бұрын

    Incredibly well said! Judging those of the past by our modern opinions is so insane and maddening to me. It makes no sense at all. I love your videos, my friend. Please keep them coming and God bless you!

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment, glad you got something out of the video!

  • @SaraKhamou-sd1ri

    @SaraKhamou-sd1ri

    2 ай бұрын

    if anyone was in their times they wouldnt have time to ask these questions every nation was fighting for their own existing

  • @inhocsignovinces7713
    @inhocsignovinces77134 жыл бұрын

    A lot of great and accurate points. Great vid! And thank you for pointing out that even though many Christians didnt know how to read during the middle ages they still knew the Bible better than most Christians today. Biblical stories, charachters, commandments, virtues, ethics, laws etc. were all 100% known by pretty much every Christian during the middle ages as almost all of them went to church up to several times a week where they would listen to the priest talk about the Bible. It would be nice if you make a video on that topic as well. it always annoys me so much whenever I hear this bull**** about how Christians didnt know anything about the Bible in the medieval ages. Blasphemy etc. was literally considered amongst the worst things you could possibly commit, so its pretty obvious based on that alone that they knew what the Bible said, lol

  • @inhocsignovinces7713

    @inhocsignovinces7713

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tridentinecrusader9477 Will check it out, subbed. God bless

  • @traditionalfascists3303

    @traditionalfascists3303

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spiritual Devotion - Music Nice Legion profile

  • @joshuavandernoord6912

    @joshuavandernoord6912

    4 жыл бұрын

    The “knowledge” and “understanding” of the Bible you claim the commonfolk had was based solely on what priests told them. As for medieval exegesis there are many obvious flaws. This guy doesn’t know much about Christianity.

  • @inhocsignovinces7713

    @inhocsignovinces7713

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavandernoord6912 Yes. they learned from priests who had dedicated their entire lives studying the Bible. I'd much more like to learn the Bible from a priest who knows what everything means based on theology rather than reading it and interpreting it by myself tbh.

  • @nipoone6109

    @nipoone6109

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavandernoord6912 Yes. Just like you go to a doctor that has spent most of their life studying medicine rather than try to perform an operation on yourself.

  • @mr.s2005
    @mr.s20054 жыл бұрын

    Christianity may be about loving one another but its not about letting someone kill you or being the aggressor. The way I see the Crusades, it was more of a counterattack. If the Muslims hadn't had to concentrate so much on holding the Holy Land from the Crusaders, the history of Europe could have been very different.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @eeeccc3562

    @eeeccc3562

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? Because I remember something about Jesus letting Hinself crucified, turning the other cheek and not taking justice into your hands, as well as not casting stones types of messages.

  • @commonman9782

    @commonman9782

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eeeccc3562 Jesus Crucifixion is unique situation, look at the story of David vs Goliath for example. sometimes violence is unavoidable. Even Jesus used violence when the Temple of God was used as a marketplace.

  • @mightybryan1033

    @mightybryan1033

    Жыл бұрын

    Crusades were solely Catholics, Christians never had a huge Military force in history. The Bible never made Christianity Jesus never said Worship himself. People always put the crusades and corruption of the pope on Christianity but that’s Catholics all the way

  • @Ultima_Fides

    @Ultima_Fides

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@eeeccc3562 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).

  • @arphaksad01
    @arphaksad014 жыл бұрын

    Muslims invaded Spain and other Christian locations. Great discussion. People have an incorrect view that of OT is not the same as in NT. That is not correct. It’s the same God

  • @MrJuanduenas

    @MrJuanduenas

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is the same God, but the relationship between God and Man are different in the NT. The judgements against groups of people in the OT were very much judgments by God for particular transgressions against particular peoples Has little to do with the crusades. However, this is not to say that the crusades where somehow wrong politically.However, it was an act of mainstream Christianity at the time, and mainstream christianity is hardly ever actual Christianity. I feel like this video does little to actually cover historical doctrines around the crusades, because many of them were in fact unsound doctrine. Christiandom was not Christianity, it was a pagan form of christianity.

  • @arphaksad01

    @arphaksad01

    4 жыл бұрын

    Juan Duenas good points

  • @ocdplaylistmaker7032

    @ocdplaylistmaker7032

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrJuanduenas What's actual Christianity?

  • @felixmonagas3972

    @felixmonagas3972

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mehmed Mehdi Europe is Christian

  • @francisferriggi424

    @francisferriggi424

    3 жыл бұрын

    What would you do if someone were in invade your house? Would you not protect your house?

  • @user-mr9ob9xd7f
    @user-mr9ob9xd7f4 жыл бұрын

    Attacks on Orthodox Christians were unchristian, but afaik, those were never the goals of crusading, just evil deeds of some soldiers and mercenaries. Edit: Thanks for reminding me about Northern crusades in baltics and russia

  • @yochananandreas3148

    @yochananandreas3148

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tako je brate. :)

  • @javier6926

    @javier6926

    4 жыл бұрын

    Србски Жар not true , some crusades were indeed launched against the orthodox. Not the 4th crusade , which was directed originally against Egypt , but the Germans and the swedes launched many expeditions with papal approval against the Russians.

  • @yochananandreas3148

    @yochananandreas3148

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@javier6926 You have anything specific in mind ?

  • @WendingWayfarer

    @WendingWayfarer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@yochananandreas3148 Yeah wasn't the battle on the ice and the Alexander Nevsky thing all defending against a crusade?

  • @javier6926

    @javier6926

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yochanan Andreas I already said it , the numerous crusades of the swedes and Germans in the Baltic against the Russians.

  • @dom3712
    @dom37124 жыл бұрын

    Well done sir. I've tried to explain this concept to those of my age (early 20s) it is almost impossible for them to grasp. At anyrate I bought a sweater. Keep up the good work and hope you get better.

  • @jacobitewiseman3696

    @jacobitewiseman3696

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because they are pacifistic heretics

  • @danielandres1579
    @danielandres15794 жыл бұрын

    Do a video on the Blessed Maronites and their alliance with the Crusaders 🇱🇧

  • @jacobberry5138

    @jacobberry5138

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. They suffered for Christ. A lot. Their acknowledgement is necessary.

  • @EAbn

    @EAbn

    4 жыл бұрын

    A lot of suffering has happened to our people since the holy wars especially at the had of the ottoman turks

  • @danielandres1579

    @danielandres1579

    4 жыл бұрын

    E. Abn May Turkey perish

  • @solhamer3502

    @solhamer3502

    4 жыл бұрын

    I twice read that as "the Based Maronites". Blessed and Christpilled

  • @geoffreyreeks2422
    @geoffreyreeks24223 жыл бұрын

    Jesus permitted the apostles to carry their sword for their own defense. We know that because Peter used his sword to defend Jesus from the Roman Soldiers when they came to arrest Jesus at the Mount of Olives. After Jesus replaced the ear cut off a Roman Soldier by Peter in that defense, Jesus said "Now is not the time for violence". Note that he said "now". Regards, Geoff. Reeks

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    Simon the Zealot was likely Simon Bar Giora, the man who avenged James the Just’s martyrdom by putting Ananus Ben Ananus to death after he captured Jerusalem.

  • @boulderbite
    @boulderbite4 жыл бұрын

    Matthew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth." Meek translating from "praus" which was defined as a wild horse native horse to Greece that was broken and trained for battle, but these horses were also known to be incredibly gentle. As the world become translated to English, horses were known to be called "meeked" when they were ready for battle.

  • @ecclesiaxxi6210

    @ecclesiaxxi6210

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was interesting informatioin. Thank you for sharing.

  • @brewcity44panthers60

    @brewcity44panthers60

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, informative. Thanks!

  • @janel342

    @janel342

    4 жыл бұрын

    Travis R. I once saw graffiti that said ‘The meek don’t want it’

  • @dusanthemighty741
    @dusanthemighty7414 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for providing us with best Crusades related content! :)

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    thank you!

  • @jeraldbowey6917
    @jeraldbowey69174 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the informative videos. I also thoroughly enjoyed your book.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Really glad to hear it.

  • @KristinkaAranova
    @KristinkaAranova4 жыл бұрын

    either way I love the crusaders

  • @jasonbladzinski5336

    @jasonbladzinski5336

    2 жыл бұрын

    What? Why?

  • @kazumakiryu157

    @kazumakiryu157

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@jasonbladzinski5336they sacrificed themselves out of their love for God and their fellow Christians from Islam. They truly took up their cross.

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jasonbladzinski5336because they fought with their hands and their kings lead from the front. As Achilles says in the film Troy “imagine a king who fights his own battles.” But we don’t have to imagine, we have Frederick Barbarossa and Richard the Lionheart and Bohemond of Antioch. And since I’m a goth I also have Totila Baduila Badua, Theodoric the Great and Pelagius of Asturias.

  • @Roma_eterna
    @Roma_eterna2 жыл бұрын

    I think whenever people cite examples of un-Christian behavior it’s usually incidents such as the 1204 sack of Constantinople or the Albigensian crusade. Instances of Christians turning against Christians. Even I have fallen into that trap. But as ugly and tragic as those events were, I’ve come to understand that, really, that’s human nature. Once we achieve an initial goal against a common enemy, we start turning on each other, Christian or not.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    There does seem to be a pattern with "movements" in general, in which they tend to start off going after something outside and external, but then turn more inward and start attacking things, people, institutions closer to home. A great empire, for example, after winning some great battle against an external enemy, might then enter into a period of internal unrest, rebellion, etc.

  • @louiseyvette2261

    @louiseyvette2261

    Жыл бұрын

    The Albigensian crusade was needed too

  • @enderoctanus

    @enderoctanus

    Ай бұрын

    The Albigensians were Gnostics, not Christians.

  • @tjnlindaoconchuir1312
    @tjnlindaoconchuir13123 жыл бұрын

    There's so many good points made here. Thank you for making this.

  • @a_random_orthodox_Christian
    @a_random_orthodox_Christian4 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for making it

  • @ericandrusca3549
    @ericandrusca35494 жыл бұрын

    "if you think i come to make peace you are wrong. I come with a sword"

  • @josephplunkett1459
    @josephplunkett14594 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Crusades!! Good old authentic videos!

  • @OrkosUA
    @OrkosUA4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for such a good video, do more like these. People are hungry for truth out there...

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman9576 ай бұрын

    You are doing valuable work and doing it well.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @OwassoYankeyGardenRailway
    @OwassoYankeyGardenRailway4 жыл бұрын

    Good discussion. I just subscribed. I read a Rodney Stark’s book many years ago and basically came to the same conclusions.

  • @pedrolizama4993
    @pedrolizama49933 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for clearing up the misconceptions about Christianity and the Crusades.

  • @IblewuponyourfaceIII
    @IblewuponyourfaceIII4 жыл бұрын

    Luke 22:36 KJV) “...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” - Jesus (Luke 14:31 KJV) “Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?” - Jesus (Luke 11:21 KJV) “When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:” - Jesus

  • @m_d1905
    @m_d19054 жыл бұрын

    This is a time period that I have been interested in since childhood. Even then I knew it was not a black and white situation. Thank you for your well researched videos. You don't leave out the bad or good at all. Thank you, thank you.

  • @theshortskid9466
    @theshortskid94664 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the education. ♥️🙏

  • @aaronherman6396
    @aaronherman63964 жыл бұрын

    Great lecture! Respectfully...

  • @bansheemuse4794
    @bansheemuse47944 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed your book and will you be writing another?

  • @tinamvin5359
    @tinamvin53594 жыл бұрын

    Honestly thought you’d be full of it, but as a practicing Christian, you go the intent correct. Christ came to separate families, to turn the world upside down.

  • @klausmascarenhas3873

    @klausmascarenhas3873

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @kenmartin861

    @kenmartin861

    4 жыл бұрын

    A practicing what???

  • @solhamer3502

    @solhamer3502

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because the world was and is corrupt, and needs shaking up to unseat the wicked. Because families are made up of good and bad people, and if blood ties mean more to you than faith in God, you may follow the evil doings of your family members. Jesus was and is completely right. It may be hard for us to read his words or understand, but we need to give him chance and we'll see that his ways are higher than ours.

  • @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    @IblewuponyourfaceIII

    4 жыл бұрын

    klaus Mascarenhas because what Jesus is saying that there will be good within the the family who believe in him & Morality & those who are immoral. So they will fight themselves causing division based on morality & those who believe in him or not

  • @jasonbladzinski5336

    @jasonbladzinski5336

    2 жыл бұрын

    How is separating families a good thing?

  • @bigcheese6159
    @bigcheese61594 жыл бұрын

    If you get attacked you have every right to protect yourself. If anything at all, the Crusades were as Christian as it gets.

  • @bigcheese6159

    @bigcheese6159

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Casey McCullen The Templar Knight of Justice Amen

  • @Sir_knight_trooper

    @Sir_knight_trooper

    4 жыл бұрын

    Amen brother

  • @samueldimuccio4092

    @samueldimuccio4092

    4 жыл бұрын

    The sword in Matthew 10:34 is the bible

  • @samueldimuccio4092

    @samueldimuccio4092

    4 жыл бұрын

    also, luke 22:36 had to happen because things still had to be fulfilled

  • @onetwothreefourfive12345
    @onetwothreefourfive123454 жыл бұрын

    Great vid

  • @Templar_PL
    @Templar_PL4 жыл бұрын

    I fully agree. You use clear justfication and its a simple manual how to talk with enemies of the crusades and Church as a whole

  • @hypolyxa7207
    @hypolyxa72074 жыл бұрын

    I was just thinking, are there any worthwhile movies out there about the Crusade? I'm in such a movie mood as of late. Thank you for another good video, and for keeping up your work.

  • @mike7652

    @mike7652

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arn the Knight Templar is absolutely epic.

  • @Nomansland77

    @Nomansland77

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arn the templar a swedish guy joins the crusades. Advice don't watch the second one though as they end up going full kingdom of heaven tier mode in the second but the First is probably the only Crusader movie i know of at the moment. Of the crusades that shows them in a Positive light and supports Christianity Culturally.

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mike7652this is exactly the movie I was going to suggest!

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Nomansland77are you a Norman cousin?! I’m so sick of the way the culture has vilified my gothic and Norman ancestors, yet the Vikings who killed people in churches are lionized?! I don’t hate the Vikings or anything, but Totila (King of the Goths and {at least according to my great grandmother, and my genetic testing has shown she was spot on about us being Goths-she called us “Theodoric’s people, from the lineage of Totila”}my direct ancestor) would designate all the churches of all denominations as places of refuge for those not wanting to be involved in a siege he was about to lay, or a battle about to be fought. Procopius’ works show that a man who was in the court of Justinian and idolized Belisarius had the upmost respect and admiration for the Gothic kings, the same could not be said for his opinion on the Byzantine court of Justinian. But the goths are blamed for the fall of the Roman Empire somehow, when in fact they tried to SAVE the western Roman Empire! And the Normans get it just as bad, with the few portrayed positively often being depicted as somehow distant from their Norman ethnicity. It’s patently absurd.

  • @athensarfaras1466
    @athensarfaras14664 жыл бұрын

    Speak that truth brotha!

  • @nathanielrourke8886
    @nathanielrourke88864 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @paultunnell1191
    @paultunnell11914 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @offcenterconcepthaus
    @offcenterconcepthaus4 жыл бұрын

    Agree on the ubiquitous "BUT TEH CUSAAAADES!!?" trope. Attacking other civilizations or annihilating their cities is only moral if you use B-29s & napalm or a fission bomb. ;-)

  • @cosuinofdeath

    @cosuinofdeath

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alyosha Moab

  • @offcenterconcepthaus

    @offcenterconcepthaus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cosuinofdeath Exactly -- burning one person at the stake is a travesty -- torching Dresden or Japan's people by the thousands is "just tactics." ;-)

  • @kenmartin861

    @kenmartin861

    4 жыл бұрын

    The end justify the means.

  • @jewberggoldstein7112

    @jewberggoldstein7112

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@offcenterconcepthaus based

  • @offcenterconcepthaus

    @offcenterconcepthaus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dalis918 No, I mean that there's an enormous amount of pearl-clutching about war in the past -- Crusades, Canaan, and so on. When by modern standards, in time of war -- we do the same for justifiable reasons.

  • @Adam18W
    @Adam18W Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video.

  • @chrismusix5669
    @chrismusix56693 жыл бұрын

    "For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." ~Romans 13:4

  • @Carlos101010101
    @Carlos1010101014 жыл бұрын

    "The Virtue of War: Reclaiming the Classic Christian Traditions East and West" by Alexander FC Webster and Darrell Cole is a great read on the subject. It traces the development of Just War Theory from the first century, through schisms and into the Protestant era.

  • @Carlos101010101

    @Carlos101010101

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Lazarus Zoolander I found it to be an objective study of the subject. It traced the development of Augustine's Just War Theory back to Scripture and the arguments, pro and con, put forth by various Apostolic Fathers. From Augustine on, it traces the theory's development in the East, West and Protestant spheres of Christendom. It does it all very handily and in just under 250 pages!

  • @sagetheartist2615
    @sagetheartist26153 жыл бұрын

    As a Roman Catholic I agree with you

  • @jacksnhawker5165
    @jacksnhawker51654 жыл бұрын

    This type of explanation has always made the most sense to me. But there are many attempts, both nieve and malicious, to make the Chruch into something it is not. Usually so some group or powerfull individual can justify their shortcomings.

  • @delgande

    @delgande

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is protestants and atheists that spread lies

  • @demetripapachristopoulos3295
    @demetripapachristopoulos32953 жыл бұрын

    Exactly right. Your video is right on.

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro75653 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @horseface31
    @horseface314 жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @vitoandolini1234
    @vitoandolini12344 жыл бұрын

    Big fan of your work!! Can I get some citations for Jesus praising soldiers etc

  • @mitchconner6831
    @mitchconner68312 ай бұрын

    Many people try to use scripture to justify pacifism (or cowardice, depending on how you look at it) Kind of like how some people have tried to use scripture to justify violence. Christianity is definitely not a pacifist religion. Great video 👍

  • @wildtwindad
    @wildtwindad4 жыл бұрын

    The crusades were a result of the caliphates expansion north and westwards. If the Holy Roman Empire turned medieval Europe had not united then they would have been steamrolled. Also Europe was lucky that the Khan's troops were turned back also.

  • @walter1383

    @walter1383

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just of note about the Mongols, it's actually not likely that they could have pushed further into Europe had they tried it. They had some earlier victories such as the Battle of Liegnitz and continued to raid Poland for the next few decades, but even without the politics distracting them back east, they were in capable of maintaining any ground beyond Russia. That far west and Europe was a completely different environment from the steppes, far more forests and hillier, not the best pasture for horses and intense castleization across the entire continent. They were really good at taking a fortified city isolated out on the steppes, but multiple fortresses each within a day's march reinforcement distance from each other in a terrain of hilly forests? Nah they couldn't hold that.

  • @wildtwindad

    @wildtwindad

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@walter1383 logistically I see where you are coming from. Yet the Khan's armies waltzed through Russia in the depths of winter and defeated the Teutonic Knights with ease. I believe the seige techniques developed to crush the Qin would brush aside the Castles. The fortifications of Europe would not stand upto the use of gunpowder and canon. As far as the terrain, they are the only invader to succeed in Afghanistan. If one can beat them, forests are only a slight distraction. Thoughts?

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @lorenwegele4250
    @lorenwegele42504 жыл бұрын

    I agree completely. I'm Lutheran, but I'm from one of the biblically stricter branches, not one of the more humanistic branches.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @thumbstruck
    @thumbstruck4 жыл бұрын

    Faults will be found in the present culture in future times. It is difficult to put oneself in another's place - especially considering cultural divides and levels of expertise and knowledge / ignorance. People know different things at different time periods.

  • @TheChuckfuc
    @TheChuckfuc4 жыл бұрын

    tancred in my opinion is the ideal crusader. honest, brave, intelligent, strong, great warrior and merciful.

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    You would love my ancestor Totila. He’s almost a Proto-Bohemond type, but super merciful to those he defeated and regarded incredibly highly in the primary sources written by Procopius.

  • @Thomas-dw1nb
    @Thomas-dw1nb4 жыл бұрын

    I think this was a fair analysis...

  • @ItsChevnotJeff
    @ItsChevnotJeff Жыл бұрын

    Strength is not to use it, but to show that you could, yet still chooses not to"

  • @royalbryant762
    @royalbryant7624 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explanation please use inquisitive to look in lost tribe

  • @magatism
    @magatism4 жыл бұрын

    "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” - Luke 19:27. Why didn't Jesus say" Father, forgive them" or " Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate". At the last supper Jesus said, "He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.." - Luke 22:36 And two days later at Getsamane... "When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “Lord, should we strike with our swords?” - Luke 22:46 His followers were carrying swords and Peter even used it. Jesus chastised him, not for violence but for trying to deny him what was orophecised.

  • @commonman9782

    @commonman9782

    Жыл бұрын

    "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” - Luke 19:27. on judgment day, if you don't believe in Jesus, Jesus will not save you and will be separated from Him forever.

  • @magatism

    @magatism

    Жыл бұрын

    @@commonman9782 Diesn't work that way, Jesus whipped the moneychangers, God destroyed the King of Tyre. They did not wait for Judgement day. God will send the rejected souls against you and you may end up paying the price of your folly.

  • @commonman9782

    @commonman9782

    Жыл бұрын

    @@magatism it's a parable for Jews who rejects Jesus as The Messiah, The King of The Jews

  • @salvadornunezcuevas4427
    @salvadornunezcuevas44274 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video, only I like to remark a fact: Just because something is ancient or benerated as sacred, it doesnt mean that it must be keept as it has been since its foundation, after all, the great things that all of us enjoy now comes from great mistakes and errors committed in the past.

  • @cosuinofdeath
    @cosuinofdeath4 жыл бұрын

    In times of peace prepare for war

  • @stuckmannen3876
    @stuckmannen38764 жыл бұрын

    We are not called to pacifists ✝️

  • @tubi333
    @tubi3333 жыл бұрын

    I‘m still figuring out why the bot suppresses my comment. First I thought that the words „kill“ and „murder“ would trigger it (talking about bible translations), but it was of no effect when I abbreviated them. I have no clue at the moment where the problem is.

  • @barrybarlowe5640
    @barrybarlowe56403 жыл бұрын

    First, Ten Commandments: Thou shalt not 'kill' should actually been Thou shalt not "Murder". Second Christ never held any military person as sinful because of his duty. He restrained his Apostles from harming the soldiers of the Priests, because it could have interfered with his own destiny and intent. Jesus used force in the Temple in Jerusalem. Christianity condemns selfish acts rather than violence, but stresses that only through Jesus' sacrifice is ANYONE justified before their Creator. Christians aren't pacifists, though they should be more restrained from engaging in violence for self-benefit.

  • @emanuilgoshev350
    @emanuilgoshev3502 жыл бұрын

    I as a protestant, always find the crusades as justified, only the sack of Constantinople I cannot overlook

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yet, that was a complicated situation. The Byzantines themselves played a crucial hand in that whole episode.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @jamiecharles8334
    @jamiecharles83342 жыл бұрын

    Ive watched so many of your videos I can’t read the word “crusades” anywhere without pronouncing it like you do 😂

  • @London_miss234
    @London_miss2344 жыл бұрын

    The Crusades started as a religious war. By the Fourth Crusade the Venetians and their armies attacked Orthodox Christians. More fodder for other religions.

  • @justchilling704

    @justchilling704

    4 жыл бұрын

    englishgal234 They started off actually as something nine religious however religion was used as a motivation.

  • @jacobberry5138

    @jacobberry5138

    4 жыл бұрын

    The first Crusade was expelling an oppossing conquest of faith. It was coalition of Christians fighting the religion of peace during their tour of peace. The last thing anyone wants is Christians coming together for a common cause, because things get done.

  • @justchilling704

    @justchilling704

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jacob Berry I mean I don’t have an issue with them reclaiming lost land, I just don’t like the idea of attacking civilians.

  • @kles44

    @kles44

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing Is The Deposed emperor of Byzantium Alexius IV Angelos himself approached the crusaders and asked them to return him to his throne (as he had been deposed). He promised the crusaders troops and money for their crusade in return for the restoration. The crusaders then sailed to Constantinople and restored Alexious IV Angelos to his throne Angelos however could not raise the sum he promised and in the end the people revolted against him and he ended up being killed. Now I'm not claiming the 4th crusade was just but rather the story is more complicated than people give it credit for. I remember watching a documentary about the crusades that gave a 30 second explanation of the 4th crusade and did not mention at all the events leading to the attack on Constantinople. The truth is, in a perfect world, had the emperor been able to deliver then Constantinople likely would have been left alone.

  • @user-bz5pm7rr7x

    @user-bz5pm7rr7x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Patz13 in the 6th century there was no separation of Christianity. Christianity was (almost) united.East-West schism came in 1054.

  • @gussetma1945
    @gussetma19454 жыл бұрын

    They marched around the wall of Jerusalem just a Joshua had marched around Jericho.

  • @berwynsigns4115
    @berwynsigns41153 жыл бұрын

    Just wish we hadn't done what we did to our Orthobros

  • @monkeynumbernine
    @monkeynumbernine4 жыл бұрын

    The crusades were necessary! We (Christians) must be educated on this, and be *GRATEFUL* for the crusades. We actually need crusades now...

  • @jasonbladzinski5336

    @jasonbladzinski5336

    2 жыл бұрын

    How and why were they necessary?

  • @user-rv4wn5qk7q

    @user-rv4wn5qk7q

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasonbladzinski5336 Check the channel videos and you will understand bruh

  • @nazwus

    @nazwus

    Жыл бұрын

    Why we need crusades now? Where?

  • @belugabeluga8944

    @belugabeluga8944

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@nazwusspiritual Crusades

  • @karolinaq9359
    @karolinaq93594 жыл бұрын

    Hello, have watched the Vikings? I am wondering if that scene - season 2 I think - where the princess is punished for having a child out of wedlock is legit. Can you comment on some of the discrepancies you see in current cinema and actual customs at that time?

  • @EilanJ
    @EilanJ3 жыл бұрын

    It's funny to notice that we are now much more literate, but know biblical stories much less than medieval people.

  • @hokumdog
    @hokumdog4 жыл бұрын

    The Holy Bible may preach peace, but when it is Christendom itself that is threatened, then it is every Christians duty to defend ALL that is holy. His holiness the pope has called a crusade to reclaim the holy lands from the infidel, who would deny Christian pilgrims their right to visit the holy places. It is time for the armies of Christendom to put aside their differences and unite under one banner, the sign of the cross! And give back God’s children what is rightfully theirs, or die trying...

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @thegoodlydragon7452
    @thegoodlydragon74524 жыл бұрын

    It’s not okay to start fights, but it is okay, even honorable to finish them.

  • @corporateshill7473
    @corporateshill74734 жыл бұрын

    Discuss excommunicated crusaders, please.

  • @constantinkelleher5444
    @constantinkelleher54444 жыл бұрын

    Didn't Thomus Aquinas create the just war theory?

  • @Tyler_W

    @Tyler_W

    4 жыл бұрын

    Certainly the one who populrized it in western thought.

  • @constantinkelleher5444

    @constantinkelleher5444

    4 жыл бұрын

    0k thanks

  • @emmanuelt8405
    @emmanuelt84054 жыл бұрын

    I am a Protestant Christian and I believe the Crusades were just and moral to an extent. I will admit when I say to an extent I really don’t know much of the crusades and want to learn more.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @emmanuelt8405

    @emmanuelt8405

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samy7013 We have not forgotten that however, I believe there are still good aspects of the Crusade.

  • @shawnbra9095
    @shawnbra90954 жыл бұрын

    Since you know this history pretty well would you discuss whether or not the west attacked the Eastern Christians. Orthodoxy always say this and was even bought up in the comments section here can you shed some light on this issue did it happen or not

  • @tr1084

    @tr1084

    4 жыл бұрын

    It went both ways. See the Massacre of the Latins in 1182.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @magatism
    @magatism4 жыл бұрын

    "Thou shalt not bear fruit again " Jesus cursed the fig tree to it's death. At the Last Supper Jesus asked his people to sell their shirts and buy a sword. Two days later at Gethsemane, Peter drew a sword from his clothes and slashed the servants ear. what was Peter, the rock of faith doing with a sword, importantly didn't Jesus know.

  • @fullfist

    @fullfist

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show Peter was carrying around a sword.

  • @magatism

    @magatism

    4 жыл бұрын

    fullfist He obeyed Jesus, literally.

  • @matthewrivera9314

    @matthewrivera9314

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@magatism I ask people that all the time.

  • @acekoala457

    @acekoala457

    4 жыл бұрын

    Peter was a Zealot. Guy probably had a sword to begin with.

  • @magatism

    @magatism

    4 жыл бұрын

    Acekoala45 - When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" - Luke 22:49 More than one carried.

  • @Bj0rn100
    @Bj0rn1004 жыл бұрын

    Hello I'am a Catholic and for a long time I agreed with the crusades, but as my Faith grew up I started seeing them as wrong and violent. But I saw this video and the question got back but in the opposite way, and I have a question, in Mathew 26,52: Jesus then said, 'Put your sword back, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.'. Right after Saint Peter cut an opposer ear. So is Jesus saying that we must not draw our swords or is this some metaphor that I'am not getting? Thank you for the video, God Bless you all! VIVA CRISTO REY!

  • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not theologian but I do remember that Peter had that sword because jesus had told him to arm himself in preparation for some upcoming event. This muddy's the extent to which that quote is true

  • @williamwiegand4340

    @williamwiegand4340

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was always taught Jesus most likely told them to buy swords to defend themselves from people who would persecute them. Jesus was kinda like the main punching bag for everyone who didn't like his teachings, so once he was gone then his followers would most likely be the next targets. The men who came to arrest Jesus are written as not being too violent when they came to arrest him and only there to take Jesus, not anyone else. Peter drew a sword first and attacked one of the guards, drawing first blood. Jesus knew that Peter was not a soldier and didn't want him throwing his life away by relying on a sword to end any conflict.

  • @Bj0rn100

    @Bj0rn100

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 okok thanks! God bless you!

  • @Bj0rn100

    @Bj0rn100

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@williamwiegand4340 Thank you! God bless you!

  • @yng7147

    @yng7147

    4 жыл бұрын

    William Wiegand amen

  • @ludoka58leo
    @ludoka58leo3 ай бұрын

    NON NOBIS DOMINE, NON NOBIS, SED NOMINI TUO DA GLORIAM

  • @ChristianAuditore14
    @ChristianAuditore14 Жыл бұрын

    Yes and no, the crusades themselves didn't but some acts of the crusaders were.

  • @FreshPrince0fMiami
    @FreshPrince0fMiami2 жыл бұрын

    Only thing is Jesus didn’t leave a religion but he did leave a Church

  • @ashyslashy5818
    @ashyslashy58184 жыл бұрын

    defend all that is holy

  • @BunnySconce
    @BunnySconce2 жыл бұрын

    Well argued. I didn't necessarily agree with you at the outset.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey that's great to hear! I'm always willing to have my mind changed as well.

  • @VitorEmanuelOliver
    @VitorEmanuelOliver4 жыл бұрын

    I think that the crusades were necessary and justified considering that Muslims took over and raided Christian lands for centuries. But if they conflicted with Christian teachings, it’s up for the particular view of each person on Christianity, the field is open for interpretation, today there are many schools of thought. I won’t say that because someone’s belief in Christianity is influenced by humanism therefore it’s wrong. It doesn’t change the fact that the crusades has a justified reason to exist.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the thing we have to recognize though is that these more modern interpretations of Christianity belong to our own age. It's absurd to look back to the Crusades era and say they were behaving in an "unchristian" manner when in fact, during that time, they were behaving in a manner that was inherently Christian with a tradition going back to the founding of the religion.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @ch2507d
    @ch2507d4 жыл бұрын

    Slightly off topic: why is the origin of our faith in church of Holy Sepulchre in such a disorder and mess,so many denominations squabling about petty issues? We even have a gatekey holder who is not Christian. Are we so idiotic that we cant agree even on our origin of faith? One God,One Son,One Holy Spirit. Why is it not a clean and pure place and not such dangly kichy mess? Unite Christians!!!!!

  • @James_Bee

    @James_Bee

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry. It's coming. Wheat and tares.

  • @tacticalpants8681
    @tacticalpants86814 жыл бұрын

    Simple answer. No.

  • @royalbryant762
    @royalbryant7624 жыл бұрын

    Love history fan of norse celtic northen European & biblical history l have historically look in to asia minor & Phoenician who who spoke and wrote in paleo hebrew. Blessing God the tribes or nation look in standards of tribe ? Not push any religious sect of christanity love history unstand the past and own family beginning debryan/debrionne/ norman .rollo willian bastared had standard of wolf. So did the benjamites and looked up blessing of tribe dead ringer of my family preset charaters ! I believe made connection europen and hebrews. Please look up manasseh, Ephraim and USA ,great Britain standard. Coat of arms and bessing of tribes please keep open mind the symbolism and blessing. Are unreal !!

  • @chukwukanwanonenyi9778
    @chukwukanwanonenyi97782 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insight. All we pray for is peace and tolerance. More especially the 'religion of peace' needs peace.

  • @Thor-Orion

    @Thor-Orion

    5 ай бұрын

    This is a comedy set about Christianity being the real religion of Peace. Very funny stuff.

  • @ryanpotochnik1374
    @ryanpotochnik13744 жыл бұрын

    something. Corse they were in godly and un Christian they killed and slaughtered all in the name of gos..I'm a god fearing Christian and been in a private Christian school this guy will try so hard to say it was not when it was.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should get a refund for that private school education.

  • @markmello1366
    @markmello13663 жыл бұрын

    If the crusades were a real holy war ordained by God, why didn’t he bless them in war the way he did with the ancient isrealites?

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spain? Sicily? Baltic?

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?

  • @59spadesofalife52

    @59spadesofalife52

    10 ай бұрын

    It almost felt like he did there is almost no way the crusades should have succeeded they were vastly outnumbered and many were starving to death to say they weren’t blessed in some way is in my opinion not correct

  • @barccy
    @barccy4 жыл бұрын

    What do you think of : 1. "Those who live by the sword die by the sword"? 2. Matthew 5 : 38-40 "Do not resist evil, ... turn the other cheek,... render your cloak also"?

  • @davidmiller4078
    @davidmiller40782 ай бұрын

    NO

  • @British-Patriot

    @British-Patriot

    Ай бұрын

    Completely justified.

  • @WarDankEagle
    @WarDankEagle4 жыл бұрын

    Don't agree with you entirely, but greatly respect your willingness to share your views.

  • @richorichards4655
    @richorichards46553 жыл бұрын

    "How did you build your religion?" "Just war"

  • @jonathanhayes3607
    @jonathanhayes36074 жыл бұрын

    What you say is correct, but I think you're not being charitable enough to what this argument is putting forward. It's easy to defend the IDEA of crusade as a "just war" or even a "holy war," but this does not address the atrocities that modern people frequently and rightfully take issue with about the crusades. In particular, I'm thinking of the indiscriminate killing and raping that took place when the first crusade captured Jerusalem, among other instances. THIS is un-Christian.

  • @RealCrusadesHistory

    @RealCrusadesHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    The question is what actually happened at Jerusalem? We know that there was some sort of massacre, but we don't know to what extent, and we don't know who participated in it. The primary source accounts use Old Testament imagery, some of it plucked directly from scripture, to describe the events, and clearly a lot of this exaggerated imagery is mere poetic license. For example, there weren't really rivers of blood running through the streets, that's hyperbolic. Conversely, the Muslim sources are fairly banal in their description of what happened, making it sound like any other capture of a city. It's only much later that the events at Jerusalem were inflated by the Muslims into some grandiose atrocity. Many historians today are pointing out that in general the idea of what happened at Jerusalem in 1099 has been inflated, and the violence of the sack was probably far more limited than is popularly imagined. What we do know is that the crusaders had to take the city by force after the defenders refused to surrender. This involved violence, but this was part of warfare. Holy war did involve violence, and for the Christians of the time, they did not view the events at Jerusalem as unchristian, they saw it as justified in light of their losses suffered by the Muslims fighting against them, and the unjust occupation of the Holy Land. I understand we might disagree with them, but we do have to take their perspective on this seriously.

  • @lukasjhdewaal8212

    @lukasjhdewaal8212

    4 жыл бұрын

    The voilence that resulted when a city was captured at the time is regrettable, but you would be a fool to think that the Muslims were innocent. Sacking cities was attrocious, unchristian, and normal at the time. If you ever cared to read the accounts of the fall of Constantinople, you'd understand why davout Christians would call for a crusade. Conversely, if you denounce sacking cities as unchristian, shouldn't the air raids and the atomic bomb be unchristian as well?

  • @kles44

    @kles44

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing is modern people dont have a leg to stand on because in our world atrocities still occur as part of warfare. For example in our own lifetimes the Iraq war led to the deaths of several hundred thousand people. The 20th century alone stands out in the annals of human history as a truly violent century even compared to prior centuries. The modern man can not honestly claim moral superiority over people from 1000 years ago considering the conduct that still occurs.

  • @jonathanhayes3607

    @jonathanhayes3607

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RealCrusadesHistory Hey, thanks for informing me. That makes a lot of sense. I love your channel, so keep up the great work!

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo75574 жыл бұрын

    Definitely not. If you have to ask, you're not a real Christian.

  • @samy7013

    @samy7013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder: Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Let’s also not forget that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians.

  • @ashyslashy5818
    @ashyslashy58184 жыл бұрын

    defend all that is holy