To quote Monty Python... “All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?” “Brought peace.” “Oh. Peace? Shut up!”

@GuitarsRockForever

2 жыл бұрын

But the Roman did take everything from them, their fathers, fathers' fathers, fathers' fathers' fathers ...

@kyomademon453

2 жыл бұрын

@@GuitarsRockForever it's the price for peace, just a small payment in the grand scale

@GuitarsRockForever

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyomademon453 You meant to play alone with Monty Python. Or you must be "Woman" 😉😉😉

@tofuteh2348

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyomademon453 its literally not. If thats the lens in which you look at history with you'll become a facist in no time

@tofuteh2348

2 жыл бұрын

@Questa Semplice Animazione fascists are welcome to buy mh stories 2

" I am a Rome fanboy " as he wears full lorica segmentata. Thanks for the hint

@BPond7

2 жыл бұрын

It takes a trained eye, and years of experience to pick up on the little details. 🤪

@markredacted8547

2 жыл бұрын

He fooled me I thought he was cosplaying the soldiers from the movie gladiator 😛

@TwistedAlphonso1

2 жыл бұрын

Ah damn. I thought he was wearing loincloth

@bashkillszombies

2 жыл бұрын

Most arabic people presently occupying peninsula Italy are though. Maybe one day they'll return it to it's rightful owners. Those with the highest Roman DNA. The English.

@olmeno

2 жыл бұрын

@@bashkillszombies wat

My last coach was a philosophy professor in Chicago. He would have loved the Aristotelian way you defined your terms to move towards rhetoric and away from debate.

A show that I found handled gladiators well was Spartacus. Even though it's heavily stylized, it shows that the gladiators owners did not enjoy fights to the death, because a gladiator's death was loss revenue.

@marseldagistani1989

2 жыл бұрын

Gladiator Owner: Awww Shit, I hope I get compensated for this.

@Vesnicie

2 жыл бұрын

That is so not the reason why Spartacus was a great show. It was all about big burly men in cloth diapers giving each other a bad time.

@marseldagistani1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vesnicie I know. But considering that they were practically runaway slaves the owners would have to be compensated one way or another

@trueromancat7978

2 жыл бұрын

Spartacus was great from the cast and the plot point of view. As far as depicting Romans and particularly- gladiator fights... No comment. But yes, Andy Whitfield was great.

@Rodrigo_Vega

Жыл бұрын

But... professional gladiators are not what first comes to mind when one thinks about the cruelty of the Roman circus. I mean it is kinda brutal for modern standards, but most people would agree that the fact that they were properly equiped and prepared and somewhat even-footed to one another makes it feel somewhat sport-like in it's fairness. I can see how that would be exiting, specially knowing as you mentioned that death or mutilation of those priced fighters is probably bad for business. Most people would take more issue at the cruelty displayed in the truckloads of executions of helpless captives and animals sadistically torn and tortured for the amusement of the crowd. That mostly does seems to be indicative of a rather f*ck*d up people _or_ governance. "Into the Shadows" has an interesting video on the matter. Maybe it was the lead pipes that twisted their minds thusly.

For their time, the Romans were only unusual in that they were more powerful than anyone else. Any in-depth reading of history will demonstrate that slavery, human sacrifice, genocide, gladiatorial fights, etc. were the norm to greater or lesser degrees in most cultures.

@tanthedreamer

2 жыл бұрын

the Greek was even more brutal when it comes to slavery and misogyny lmao

@theempiredidnothingwrong3227

2 жыл бұрын

It depends what qualifies as genocide. Still a hotly debated topic even today. That said it's already actually hard to argue it was the norm for that reason alone. However if we hold it to the general of organized violence with the direct intention of exterminating or otherwise culling another population it's not as common back in the ancient age as you would think. Instance of pillaging do not count because those were acts of basically violent looting and not actual genocide. That said the only people we have records of using organized violence to commit genocide are the Neo Assyrians who debatably invented the concept of organized extermination, Athens in the infamous Melian dialogue, the Isrealites on several occasions but notably during the destruction of the Midianates, Pontus when they killed people specifically of latin decent, an instance in China when General Ran Min order the extermination of an ethnic minority, an instance in Sassianian empire against a religious minority, and we suspect a conflict in southwest American involving the Anasazi resulted in genocide. As you can see all of these instance are in random places and far between on the dating. Meaning no, Genocide was not common back. Infact most empires and kingdoms did not engage in whole sale extermination of a population after achieving military victory. Looting and pillaging did happen. Genocide was rare. It's not until you get to the middle ages that you see more and more instances of Genocide. That said the Romans were infact more brutal then most powers before them (though the Assyrians might have them beat they could get to mongol levels of brutality) the sack of Carthage is an event like non other before it. Julius Caesar essentially did to the Celts the same thing Japan did and to do to the Chinese. Hadrian's actions during the Bar Koba revolt were excessively brutal. So let's not actually try to give these Romans an execuses by saying it was the norm. Because it wasn't the norm. It wasn't even the norm in Roman history. There was no whole sale extermination when they conquered Greece and Syria hell there was non when Pontus fell and you would think there would've been given the fact that Pontus triggered the war with genocide. Trajan didn't commit genocide in Parthia or Dacia. The Germanic wars while brutal were not fought with same brutality as Ceasar's Gallic wars. What you are seeing is indivuals who get into position of power and use their reasources to infact exterminate people. They may have been a cold but rational strategy behind it. As Ceasar was certainly able to successfully control and assimilate Gaul by exterminating tribes that proved resliant something that probably could not be done otherwise. But the fact of the matter is their actions were not the status quo. Keep in mind whole sale extermination was way more difficult on the technology of even the Romans then it is now with machine guns, helicopters,gas, air planes, and trucks. So it took more effort and reasources to actually exterminate an entire population back then. Hence why it wasn't done very often. Like you couldn't even do near the same damage as a bunch of modern religious militants with AK47s and trucks efficiently with legionaries. One could argue the fact genocide becomes easier over time is why it becomes more frequent and why the worlds view of violence as a concept takes a 180.

@demammoet

2 жыл бұрын

@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 you'd think it was easier back then as food was more scarce and shelter less evolved. Hence why the Romans completely exterminated the early Frisians. P.S. Also, Romans took millions of slaves and there no admixture of all these enslaved Germanic people's in Italy. Meaning they didn't even get to breed even among themselves, worked to death. They took slaves as tribute mind you, not just war, so it was a general view of the lower other applied most harshly to non Romans.

@andoriannationalist3738

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanthedreamer slavery? Every civilized society practices a form of slavery. We do. It’s just debt based, no less cruel. In some ways more cruel because they lie to us all and we are told we are free when we are not. At least other slaves k ew they were property. The romans were only “evil” (subjective) when they imported new romans to take the place of their own children. Traded their children’s birthright away for a couple more years of comfort. The elderly always do this, and why they should have no say or power in our society.

@jeffk464

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, humans going to human

Roman: Dark humor is like independence. The World: Why? Roman: 😂 You wouldn’t get it.

@PAUL14447

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA

@dopaminedrip

2 жыл бұрын

b a s e d

@burbanpoison2494

2 жыл бұрын

*Knock knock* Who's there? *I Crew.* I Crew who?? *I crucified your parents. Get it?*

@LordWyatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@burbanpoison2494 😂👌

@valorwarrior7628

2 жыл бұрын

The Huns: life is just like your empire, it comes and also go The Romans: huh? Okay. The Huns: we shall put an end to it.

“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either - but right through every human heart.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

@wireless-earbuds-brain-tumor

Жыл бұрын

Are you trying to tell me I'm not better than others? RRREEEEEEE

@Goran1138

Жыл бұрын

This is really funny to hear from the famous lier

@granudisimo

Жыл бұрын

Well to be fair that's some prescriptive, well intended load of malarkey that excuses society and blames everything on the individual. It's not that people in the past had lower moral standards than us today; the people is the same, they were just even more susceptible to the whims of rulers than we are today, and thus, in order to survive to a morally bankrupt status quo, you have to adapt and morally bankrupt yourself in one way or another, or at least learn how to accept it and be complacent/not too vocal about your ideals for positive change.

@ivnrik441

Жыл бұрын

@@Goran1138 what do You mean?

@Goran1138

Жыл бұрын

@@ivnrik441 Solzhenitsyn was an imposter, who played a martyr, but in reality he always was a hypocrite lier.

This reminds of a book I read in uni for my ethics class, a haunting quote the rough translation from spanish to english is "In the quest to elevate mankind to the divine, we become demons"

"The combat is based." -Metatron, 2021 Best ever recommendation

@haraldisdead

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I caught that too lmao

@carbonado2432

2 жыл бұрын

can you timestamp it for me, i dont recall.

@haraldisdead

2 жыл бұрын

@@carbonado2432 8:47 . He actually does it again in the next sentence. Took me awhile to find lol

I've heard someone once say that the Romans conquered Europe in self defense.

@toby1061

2 жыл бұрын

I mean maybe not Europe, but they probably got pissed off with Egyptians using some of their people as slaves.

@aurail_a4534

2 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling we heard from the same person

@Balinux

2 жыл бұрын

Those damn Celts!

@lps2013

2 жыл бұрын

Kind off I guess because off their laws on going to war.

@spectre2635

2 жыл бұрын

that may be how the Romans viewed it

You are one person that I believe could be a great philosophy teacher. You break down terms to have a set meaning that is discussed and that's one of the things I appreciate most about your content. I watch everything even if I'm not overly interested in the topic because I know I will learn something. Thank you for the great content

Hello Noble One. I greatly enjoy your content, Sir. It is magnificently well thought out, researched, presented, and thoughtful. Keep it up!

“Hadrian, are we the baddies?”

@Ardjano234

2 жыл бұрын

I love that reference

@RicardoMoralesMassin

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha yess

@prs_81

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.wadderphiltyr1559 nah, he did a lot wrong. Even by his own time's standards.

@AlexanderDiviFilius

2 жыл бұрын

@@prs_81 IVDEA DELENDA EST

@marseldagistani1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderDiviFilius Hadrian to Bar Kokhba: *I'll make the flood look like a fucking Joke!*

They may have had different social conventions back then and there, but reading and hearing about the ancient romans makes me believe they were as human as we are. AND as humans they were capable of great kindness and good as well as terrible atrocities - just like us.

@Kenny-yl9pc

Жыл бұрын

I dont understand why your comment has not more likes. Its absolutley on point. Its eactly the essence of what Metatron tried to convey and I for one wholeheartedly agree with. From the beginning of time of humans to the present we always had the capacity for "good" and "evil". And I believe that we as humans have an intrinsic understanding/feeling for it. Maybe there is a gene for ethics I dont know but for sure do we have a moral compass in us. And we all have the same capacity for good and evil. Thats whats on the one hand frieghtens me and on the other hand is deeply comforting.

@TheMarshmelloKing

Жыл бұрын

Bones of small children have often been found in Roman mines, where slaves of all ages were literally worked to death. And there’s also that time they crucified like 500 innocent slaves, (men, women and children) because one of them killed their master. But yes aside from the other countless examples of such behavior we’re morally no different.

@TheMarshmelloKing

Жыл бұрын

Oh I forgot to mention the TOTAL obliteration of Carthage- it’s entire history, culture, all the standing structures and people, completely obliterated. And let’s not forget Caesar’s mass genocide of the Gauls, just one of several ancient world holocaust equivalents committed by the Romans. Of course there are more examples, but these also seemed important. Not that I believe they were pure evil, but I think we should always remember the endless, endless people who suffered and died under them when remembering their accomplishments too, most of which were only made possible by slave labor.

@teajay8769

Жыл бұрын

Wow dude so deep. You friggin simpleton.

@wedgeantilles8575

11 ай бұрын

@@TheMarshmelloKing Oh, Caesar decided to punish the Gauls after they broke the peace treaties SEVERAL times. HOW DARE HE. Caesar did fight a war in Gaul and in war people die. Especially if the beaten ones do not realize they are beaten - but sign peace treaties just to brake them as soon as they think they can get away with it. After they did this the third time Caesar decided to sent a message. And he was very correct in doing this. As was his behaving in Alesia. Vercingetorix could have capitulated any time. He chose not to. And when food run out it was Vercingetorix who decided to cast out all woman and childrend and let them starve. I guess you blame this on the Romans too, yes? Well, nonsense. It was not the Romans who decided to continue the fight, even though supplies ran out. And after the war Gaul had centuries of peace, something Gaul NEVER had. Because whole tribes were slaughtered / driven off by Germanic invaders. In the end the Roman conquest was the best that could happen to Gaul. I am with you on the destruction of Carthage. The last Punic war was absolutly unneccesary and unprovoked (in fact Carthage did everything it could to fullfill the terms that were established after the second Punic war) and the third Punic war and the destruction of Carthage is a very black point in Romes history. Slaves were used everywhere and NOBODY saw anything wrong with it and called for an ending of slavery. That INCLUDED the slaves themselves.

I like that you defined evil. The way I grew up, I automatically associated evil with going against the Bible, and I actually wondered what does he mean by evil? And then you explained… this is why I love watching your vids: you assume pretty much nothing. People normally assume everything just to get by… we really have no choice.

@johnmarks9994

Жыл бұрын

The Bible is fake anyway.

@goldenfishes3695

Жыл бұрын

More than half of the entire world is automatically evil?

@filmandfirearms

Жыл бұрын

@wargames He said it does a good job, not that it's perfect

@justaguywithafedora54

Жыл бұрын

it's because Romans are evil in Christian perspective

@micahlindley7515

Жыл бұрын

Religion as a whole is important in defining good and evil. Christianity, Buddhism, etc.

I love how completely impartial you are and the detached, dry calm you invariably maintain in all your videos. I would never have guessed you're Italian! I was so surprised when I found that out only bc Shad mentioned it at some point. ;-P ... but that aside, seriously, I like your scientific, logical outlook and diligence. I am absolutely not a fan of Italy, but I'm a fan of the Metatron.

“Mister Spock, you misunderstand us. We can be against him and admire him all at the same time.”

History channels be like: "they we're good people..... u n t i l t h e y w e r e n ' t.."

@legasius9358

2 жыл бұрын

Dramatic music kicks in

@rogeriopenna9014

2 жыл бұрын

History Channel: Coliseum and aqueducts were built by aliens

@legendarymarston9174

2 жыл бұрын

@Gwyn and Gold True to Caesar

@TechnoMinarchistBall

2 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that compared to their contemporaries, they were better than most in some ways and worse in other ways.

@insaneweasel1

2 жыл бұрын

Aliens

I love your videos! Very informative, well thought out and transparent. You do a very good job at laying down the facts in a politically unbiased fashion. Subscribed, keep up the great work!🙌😎💚

Thank you for your historical documentaries. I've learned a lot. More tan I did in school. 👍🏻❤

"You can't make the most powerful empire in history by being nice about it" History Buffs. He was talking about Britain but it applies to all empires including Rome. I don't think they were evil but they weren't angels

@eliharman

2 жыл бұрын

By the same token, you can't make the most powerful empire in history through mindless or excessive brutality. That is also counter-productive. You have to strike a balance somewhere in-between.

@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@eliharman I think that makes sense. You gotta be mean to establish an empire (via conquering everyone else) first, but then you gotta be nice (enough) to maintain the empire to prevent infighting and civil unrest. It's all a balance, as you say, that probably changes over time based on the progress of your empire (rise vs peak vs fall).

@ew-uy6cs

2 жыл бұрын

@@eliharman Thats the reason the mongol empire collapsed so fast and Germany during ww2

@eliharman

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't really matter the domain, optimal behavior is usually somewhere in between the extremes. That's why Aristotle identified virtue as the golden mean between two vices, for e.g., courage is the golden mean between cowardice and foolhardiness. But the exact optimum can vary depending on circumstances. As far as brutality goes, the Romans had to be somewhat brutal to conquer and subjugate other peoples, and they had to continuously threaten brutality to keep them in the fold, and extract tribute. But for the most part, they let subject people govern themselves in the manner to which they were accustomed and keep their culture and religion. Usually, it seems, those subject peoples found the loss of sovereignty and tribute more than offset by the benefits of the pax Romana, or at least offset enough that they didn't wish to try their luck again against the legions. It's like the old Monty python skit... "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?” “Brought peace.” “Oh. Peace? Shut up!”

@andrewharing2637

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you have to make the most powerful Empire in history, though?

Every nation has plenty of skeletons in their closet. The more powerful the nation, the more skeletons there are.

@viperstriker4728

2 жыл бұрын

But some don't bother putting them in the closet when they have guests over, and a couple have so many they just put the guest in the closet instead then told them that was all there was to see.

@turro3212

2 жыл бұрын

Muhrica😎

@jacquelinedavis9948

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be "The older the nation the more skeletons in the closet there are?"

@lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacquelinedavis9948 No, some nations have shit locations and get railed by more powerful nations all the time. Hard to have skeletons in a closet when you take it in the ass all the time.

@Lasershadow

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that sometimes when you conquered a nation you inherited their closet skeletons whether your nation helped make them or not.

i’m really enjoying these types of videos u put out 🤘🏽

"There once was a dream, a dream to purge this rotten world from the barbarians that infest it, a dream called Rome." -Dovahhatty, Unbiased History of Rome Sounds pretty clear to me, the Romans were the good guys.

@insaneweasel1

2 жыл бұрын

I see that you are also a man of culture and refinement.

@nicknaylor9895

2 жыл бұрын

@@insaneweasel1 Indeed, fellow patrician.

@chengkuoklee5734

2 жыл бұрын

If we use beautiful quote as standard then that makes ISIS good guys.

@RJLbwb

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds better in the original Greek.

@nicknaylor9895

2 жыл бұрын

@@chengkuoklee5734 lurk moar, pleb

The first question I ask when someone asks if X historical civilization or country was evil is “by modern standards or by the standards of its day?”

@OutOfNamesToChoose

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely. Sadly, it's an understanding that's all too rare nowadays, in our age of iconoclasm.

@andrewharing2637

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think that pulling down statues of slavers is judging people by modern standards?

@OutOfNamesToChoose

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewharing2637 yes

@DJScootagroov

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewharing2637 yes

@spadegaming6348

2 жыл бұрын

Rome was not black and white bit a shade of grey they did have slaves and some genocide but they also created great advancements in warfare and architecture

How is it possible to have only just come across this gem of a chanell ? Simply amazing content !

@Metatron When Rome and Genocide are mentioned, the first thing I think of is not Carthage, but the Dacians, specifically what was done to them after they had lost the war to Traianus's legions. Not entirely unheard of in its time (or in the ages before and after), but definitely something that would qualify for the term if you ask me. A pity you didn't mention that episode.

@GOF-pk9mg

2 жыл бұрын

The romans got btfo by then prevopusly so they were mad

@Depipro

2 жыл бұрын

@@GOF-pk9mg Yeah, that's usually how that sort of thing happens, roughly speaking.

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess

2 жыл бұрын

They also mass murdered the Gauls by starving them to death when they retreated to a city fortified called alesia, the Gauls suffered various attacks from Romans and they were getting captured as slaves. The romans were in fact evil, they set out to conquer territories and enslave people, that's undeniably evil from a Human morality standpoint The romans were successful because they focused their society in a unified militaristic empire, while the other populations, specially in Europe, cared more about Nature and their animist cosmology, and living in tribes. But when the other civilizations like the celts and later the Germanic tribes united, they gave romans a good run, and the Germanic people's destroyed Rome The reason Rome was successful is because they adopted the tech from the people's they met that were superior to theirs, like the chainmail and gladius sword used by the Gauls, and the spatha sword from the Germanics. The legions in Europe were comprised by the very population and race they were trying to conquer, they were made of soldiers of Germanic backgrounds too, that's why they were strong enough to take on the Germanic warriors

@wlodek7422

2 жыл бұрын

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess As far as i know, other nations didnt live in peace while caring about nature. They didn't keep so good records on that, but we know from Greeks and Romans that they too were attacking them throught years.

@Leo-ok3uj

Жыл бұрын

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess Under your words, then germany was genocided by the british in WW1 with the blockade

The last time I heard "context" so many times in a KZread video, I was on the Scholagladiatoria channel. 🤣

In the eyes of their enemies yes they were. In their own eyes ofcourse not. It just depends on the perspective, an enemy civilization like the Sassanid and Parthian empires would have seen Rome as evil because they were constantly fighting them. But like all cultures there are negatives and positives they brought with their empire.

@amansion2954

2 жыл бұрын

True

@jamestown8398

2 жыл бұрын

I don't even think their enemies would have always seen them as evil. I'm sure some saw them as worthy opponents, or as just another nation in the world.

@FloodExterminator

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Calling a civilization or a country as evil is pretty much propaganda. A recent example is WW2. Every single side (Allies and Axis) called the other side "Evil".

@frankinstineone23

2 жыл бұрын

This is true for all nations in all time periods

@MrDkgio

2 жыл бұрын

Well there’s the roads, plumbing, it’s safe to walk the streets at night and don’t forget the wine……

I studied roman law at university. As a whole, and to be short, I was absolutely fascinated of the spirit behind - it's a constant search for aequitas / fairness, especially in ius gentium. Even in old law they made a step over the border and into humanity: We all know Hammurabi's "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth", which sounds cruel, but in the context of time it is a hindering of exaggeration - meaning ONLY an eye for an eye; the romans went further then: "Si membrum rupsit, ni cum eo pacit, talio esto" - first oncoming not to pay back with the same (law of the 12 tables). This spirit, vivid in their laws, spread over the globe, and for many of it, nothing better could be found until today. If one adds all the other benefits known - Rome was sort of a gift for mankind.

@myhandlehasbeenmishandled

11 ай бұрын

Hold up. You can study Roman law in an university?

@Michalosnup

11 ай бұрын

@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled I study law, and we have one year of roman law mandatory, because it's basis for continental law.

@morganhale3434

11 ай бұрын

The term "Eye for an eye" in Hammurabi's code, as told to me by an Egyptian Copt, just means in ancient Semitic and modern Arab cultures: just recompense for injuries occurred. In other words, if you owe me $30 then you pay me $30 or whatever a court of law requires you to surrender for injuries upon my person. Usually, your life, freedom, or money depending on the laws of those peoples.

@alonsoACR

11 ай бұрын

For those wondering, that Latin phrase translates to: If a body part is damaged, and doesn't reconcile with it, let there be retaliation AKA Lex Talionis

love your content bro!

*01:17** The lack of ROME: Total War here deeply saddens me, Metatron.*

@Marinealver

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, we need more streams

@wfr1108

2 жыл бұрын

ik, i noticed that too :(

Mate, you are one seriously interesting dude. What I would give to spend a week in conversation with you.

@metatronyt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Aswaguespack

2 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt I second that! 👍🏻

@mrwhat5094

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck settle down I'd be grateful for just five minutes. Greedy bastard. I'd get a brutal headache talking to one person for a week straight anyway.

@Aswaguespack

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrwhat5094 😂😂😂

@wasabi-in-my-eye3134

2 жыл бұрын

I'll bring beer and milk.

Keep up the excellent videos & thank you for the Roman history mini documentaries.

I like how this guy answers questions. Its sad that most people don't have the patience for the right perspective.

Compared with Mongols, Roman's "evil" was just a cute kitty cat.

@limp_dickens

2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of Mongolians would consider that a huge compliment.

@chengkuoklee5734

2 жыл бұрын

@@limp_dickens that's why non-steppe nations don't miss Mongol's rule. Even Syria and Iran respect Greek and Roman but none will miss Mongol. For me is simple, "evil" or not depends how they missed by future conquered generations.

@patriciaeddy7629

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, real cute kitty,but extremely deadly.

@chengkuoklee5734

2 жыл бұрын

@@patriciaeddy7629 compared with Mongols, Roman has remarkable restraint. People tend to confused between respect and admiration of power projection. Mongols doesn't received any respect but admiration of power projection, that's why the conquered don't miss them. The Jawanese and Vietnamese laughed at Mongols failure to invade; China Mid Autumn Festival became significant of driving out Mongols from China starting Ming Dynasty. Mongol's over-specialisation for warfare became it's evolution bottleneck that caused its demise. Without soft power as glue to bind hard power together, eventually it broke down. When there is nothing to conquer, it started to devour itself and almost impossible to rise again from ashes.

@skylarkesselring6075

2 жыл бұрын

Mongols were absolutely brutal during conquest but ruled much less cruelly than Rome

"Romans were brutal at times" Oh no, you mean how exactly every single other ancient and medieval civilization has been throughout Human history, as far back as the Mesopotamian era, were? Say it ain't so. The idea of an Empire being evil is an easily romanticized concept, ideal for entertainment...but when people use entertainment as a substitute for actual history, I hang my head in disappointment.

@mariuspoenariu7021

2 жыл бұрын

too often "entertaiment history" recplaces real history nowadays, what a disgusting world

@tommske

2 жыл бұрын

except for the assyrians, they were really nice

@aramhalamech4204

2 жыл бұрын

I think every empire is evil by default. If we go by the modern concept of the nation state as the standard of how a people should be able to live multicultural empires are morally repugnant because they go against it.

@tommske

2 жыл бұрын

@@aramhalamech4204 i disagree, empires have been a very stable form of government throughout history. you cant moralise history through a contemporary lens.

@aramhalamech4204

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommske They are stable because they opress. That's evil by default.

I came to check this with the thought of, ”Wow, that’s a loaded question, how is he planning to answer that?” The intro alone makes this pretty credible.

What many fail to realize, like you said, is that we tend to look at people in the past with modern sensibilities.

Well done, mate. An excellent review of the entire question from all angles.

@ChadKakashi

Жыл бұрын

God of Latin himself has graced this comment section.

I always found it fascinating that amidst all the blood and gore of the colloseum, the Roman public found it distasteful when Giraffes were slaughtered as part of the games...

@randomdude2026

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Giraffes can't fight back really. So maybe that is the point.

@brotherjongrey9375

2 жыл бұрын

"All the blood and gore" Is the problem there. Gladiator events were NOT generally Bloody or Gory. Think modern NFL. Tons of Money and training went into each guy, popular gladiators put butts in seats... which was the bottom line, then as now. It makes NO SENSE for them to die or be injured regularly and all the sense in the world to keep them healthy. It was a sport, based on combat... like boxing, or MMA and just like boxing or MMA the rules exsist to keep fighters in fighting shape

@Alamyst2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@brotherjongrey9375 Gladiators yes. Captured slaves, bloody as it gets. Rome slew 10k captured enemy in a single game. One day.

@damionverine7159

2 жыл бұрын

People today will eat cows but abhor the eating of dogs. Or in some places eating cow is a sacrilege. It's all about culture.

@i_likemen5614

2 жыл бұрын

Must be them vegans

Just discovered you and subscribed. We need more like you. Like Joe Friday used to say, "Just the facts, Ma'am", Great videos. Thanks for the effort. All of your topics need to be discussed by the masses, not censored, because they aren't woke enough.

26:16 Saying that slaves in the Roman Empire had no rights and their masters could do anything they wanted to them is a little bit exaggerated. In case of sexual abuse its true, but still they were able to, for instance, complain about their masters in court. Also since the times of Antonini (sorry, don't remember which one of them) killing your own slave was considered a homicide.

@utpalninjajedi

2 жыл бұрын

Not until later in the Roman empire, but even then it was extremely difficult to prove.

@yungjoemighty879

2 жыл бұрын

Stop defending slavery

@brutusthebear9050

2 жыл бұрын

@@yungjoemighty879 I think one can contextualize slavery, though. Classical slavery and chattel slavery are far different. Both bad, but just as one wouldn't put indentured servitude as equal to chattel slavery, I think its important to differentiate classical slavery. Compared to our modern conception of slavery, the slavery of the classical Era was rather tame. In many ways, it has little relation to what we think of as slavery.

@xxxxxx5868

2 жыл бұрын

@@yungjoemighty879 Stop judging 2000+ year old societies by modern standards

@jacquelinedavis9948

2 жыл бұрын

@@yungjoemighty879 Stop being an idiot and read a book while touching grass.

Thank you so much Metatron for sharing my book with other Noble Ones! I really can't thank you and this community enough. The topic of this video is a very interesting one as well and I really like the perspective you bring. My personal feelings towards the Romans have, generally speaking, been a bit more on the hostile side, I must have been a Germanic tribesmen in a past life, but I do understand the historical context and times they were living in. My general dislike probably comes from the fact that when I was learning ancient history there were many cultures I became very interested in and wanted to see where they would go only for them to be conquered by Rome and so I developed a disdain for them. But that's just my perspective and experience and I still find their armor and tactics interesting as always and like to understand ancient people as best as I can well keeping in mind the times they were living in. Again that you so much for everything and I hope that everyone enjoys my book.

@n8pls543

2 жыл бұрын

It's always worth noting that the Romans were not a monolithic society and much of their success came from the way they absorbed other societies and tactics. The Gauls contributed many metalworking advancements to the Romans, the Carthaginians introduced a great many military tactics, etc. So in a way it's fascinating to see a flourishing example of a heavily multicultural empire that would later have emperors from Dalmatia (Diocletian), and an Arab (Elagabalus).

@stephenrusso6019

Жыл бұрын

@@n8pls543 Romans started as Latins, then it was any Italian, then anyone under the eagle ,which Roman became more than just a people. I don't think something like that can be done so well again.

@Namisya_3

6 ай бұрын

(sorry for my english) I think like many say it's just because roman empire was "famous" somehow that we are asking this question only for them, for example germanic people did orrible things in England and invaded it, as far as I know sometimes even more brutal than romans to conquere it and sometimes I ask myself what England would it be without the latin influence but ALSO without the saxon influence. Also there are places in the mediterranean that during their history, were heavly invaded by: romans, africans, middle east people, french, north europe countries and so on. And this is only for Europe area, you can imagine the same for all other parts of the world. It's not a justification, just saying this because maybe we focus only on what was more renown.

I've been watching all your videos and I just want to say as someone that does a lot of their own research, every time you speak you're doing this whole world a great service. Thank you and keep speaking the truth

Once again, excellent analysis and explanation. Very interesting.

I agree with you, that we should look at, study and judge history, if we need too, in context of their time. Enjoy your vids.

"It wasn't just the Romans that had public executions. After all, Joan of Arc was burned alive by the Roman Catholi--- wait a minute..."

@thekingshussar1808

2 жыл бұрын

Joan of Arc's trial and execution was a plot of the English Church Court, not the main Roman Catholic Church itself. The English did not want her especially from their loss of the Hundred Years War. The Roman Catholic Church later investigated her trial in the 20th century and revoked the penalties

@mrwhat5094

2 жыл бұрын

@@thekingshussar1808 yes but you could argue English culture by that time was allready yoked from the busom of Rome's occupation.

@MarzoVarea

2 жыл бұрын

@@thekingshussar1808 Joan of Arc was exonerated by Rome already in 1456. She was recognized a Blessed in 1909 and a Saint in 1920.

@frankheilingbrunner7852

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the Church didn't do anything to Joan of Arc. It had this neat trick by which heretics would be "handed over to the secular arm"-the "secular arm" being the local king, who was king because the Church had acknowledged and consecrated him, and who knew full well what the Church wanted of him.

@ThrashTillDeth85

2 жыл бұрын

@@thekingshussar1808 It was also of course done by people that were sympathetic to the English crown and of course didn't like someone their side was fighting against

Because of those Star Wars movies, people got the mentality that Authority=Bad while Resistance=Good. As I grew older I just realize that it was not always like that.

@Leo-ok3uj

Жыл бұрын

I would say that Star Wars is more a consequence of the idea of “authority bad, resistance good” than the cause

@globeparasite9381

Жыл бұрын

@@Leo-ok3uj yes because every faction is inspired by the second world war hence the sides

@Orinslayer

Жыл бұрын

The death star itself is analogous to WW2. Turning everyone against you by your want to be feared. Turns out if you take the long slow route to conquering people, they don't care nearly as much as when you decide to destroy them all forthright at the same time.

@KevinJohnson-cv2no

Жыл бұрын

It's not because of Star Wars, people will always associate power with negative stigmas simply because most people don't have power and are prey to those who do have it.

I Recently started watching your videos and I enjoy your content immensely. Not only do I learn a lot but you also check if your content is based on facts. I also send you kudos for the mentioning of inconsistency of good and evil in real life and morality throughout history. After years of learning about cultures and historical events and a lot of political history I realized this and I always say that there exist no evil or good people, only people that act against the morals or laws of their time. And these changed. Once cannibalism was completely okay in a variety of cultures until it was seen as disgusting (I guess this realization came along with more food supply, but it's only a guess and theory here, I would have to dive into that more). I don't know why but I felt happy that there is a person speaking out loud what I think since years. 😊

Thanks for the excellent video. SPQR

SUCH a good video babes! Super well researched! 💖 always proud of you!

@metatronyt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you pie!!! You're adorable

@seferino

2 жыл бұрын

Noble one says hello

@meep3035

2 жыл бұрын

Metatron you guys are so cute, im sorry it had to be said

@nickd.9955

2 жыл бұрын

Haha what a simp

@Omar26011

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickd.9955 haha what a virgin

_”There is only one good - knowledge - and one evil - ignorance.”_ *- Socrates*

@dumbcat

2 жыл бұрын

there have been many very good but ignorant people. there have been many knowledgeable but wicked people.

@rogeriopimentafilho5169

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, man, but Socrates never said such a shit.

@ScorpSolifugid

2 жыл бұрын

- Tzeentch

@TechnoMinarchistBall

2 жыл бұрын

@@dumbcat Socrates had a very specific idea of what Knowledge and Ignorance were.

@aguilareal6903

2 жыл бұрын

Was not Socrates that pedophile who was sentenced to death for molesting the youth?

Your videos are sooo interesting thank you

Well articulated argument Raffaele. I really enjoy your thought process and how you develop your reasoning. I agree with your logic. As Spock would say: :"Your logic is sound, we would be wise to listen." I would just add a quote that I think is appropriate for anyone pointing fingers at other civilisations while overlooking their own civilisations dirt.."One man is capable of doing what ALL men are capable of doing."

The fact that people ask this question only shows that people have lost the ability to discern nuance. People and their nations are not wholly one or the other. They are a blend of good and bad with varying degrees of both.

@EbonyPhoenix

2 жыл бұрын

sometimes you have to ask a question to get a conversation.

Sometimes evil is the voice in your head telling you that everything you do is good.

@Vlad_Tepes_III

2 жыл бұрын

@Questa Semplice Animazione I'm sure everyone has had one sometime or the other.

@minutemansam1214

2 жыл бұрын

@Questa Semplice Animazione "Do people unironically have a voice in their head?" Yes, most people do, in fact, have a literal voice in their head that verbalizes thoughts. Not having one is quite strange. While not a 'disorder', lacking an inner monologue is not the norm.

Super interesting topic. Reminds me of the similar question I’ve asked myself, we’re the Assyrians evil? Or were the *insert great power here* evil? I think you put it perfectly by asking the follow up question are humans evil? Well done my friend i think you hit every point here.

@thomasdaywalt7735

11 ай бұрын

That's the problem of using words like that if you don't use them properly they lose their true value in meaning and basically a deflation of the word

I'm really enjoying your educational and inspirational videos; thank you. Just a note at 14.25, I think it should be "exacerbated" rather than, "exasperated".

Yet another fantastic topic, glad to see the channel booming

I think you make a lot of sense. I've learned some today, thank you! Have a beautiful day! Much love! 🤗

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

My takeaway from this video is that instead of seeings the Roman empire as evil, we should study and understand their actions through the context of their time and circumstances. And to not cast judgement on them hypocritically. They were as human as we are today. Every bit of study in the ancient world will serve us well into the future. "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

Ahhh, that good old problem of evil. It's been there since the beginning of time. Loved the vid.

@vklnew9824

2 жыл бұрын

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@cristyano6449

2 жыл бұрын

Nice profile picture

The empire is evil *shows picture of the first order*

@leiziru9642

2 жыл бұрын

Vader: *confused breathing

@jarongreen5480

2 жыл бұрын

Technically speaking the first order was made up of the Imperial remnant and they used the same equipment and similar star ships so it is close enough I feel.

@azariyelvarro6271

2 жыл бұрын

From my point of view the Jedi are evil!

@Godstud

2 жыл бұрын

Fascist Jedis and their oppressive theocracy were evil!

@Usual_User

2 жыл бұрын

Its literally a copy and paste...

To have a deep understanding of Sun Tzu is impressive. Ive read rhe Art of War 3 times and still struggle to understand it sometimes. Though, I definitely still have learned a lot from it.

Hmmm was a good analysis, taken into everyone considerations and is not biased.Overall a good video.

The first image of the Romans I saw was in church on the 14 Stations of the Cross at elementary school age. I wondered who those people were, being so mean to a nice guy like Jesus. And during that time "sword and sandal" movies were popular and recommended at Catholic school. Since then I've been fascinated and repulsed at the same time by the Romans.

@SeasideDetective2

Жыл бұрын

Western civilization as a whole has a real love/hate relationship with the Romans. We vilified their culture for a thousand years, then spent the next 500 years glorifying them. During the twentieth century the pendulum slowly swung back toward condemnation, partly because the cult of fascism was inspired by ancient Rome. I think it's very misguided and dangerous to fetishize any culture, whether Roman or American or whatever. Judge people as individuals instead.

@ipercalisse579

Жыл бұрын

Romans werent actually mean to Jesus. Romans did actually try to save him. They didnt want to kill an innocent man, he looked nut, mentally disabled, but not guilty of any crime or conspirancy. What Pilato did was to finally leave the destiny of the man to his tribe, and WANTED to kill him. Now Pilato, like any other governer back then, didnt want to cause riots and inner conflicts thruough the cities of Palestines, and Jesus was already making things complicated as he was claimed to be the son of God and king of Jersualem, but the Romans werent interested in that stuff. They just wanted peace and stability in the province, and if a man had to be killed in order for the mob to be quiet, than it was ok, i presume.

I have watched a bunch of your videos and I love the way you express yourself. Let me tell you: "You have earned another subcriber !!" Keep the superb work !!

@metatronyt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and welcome!

Great Vid and Great Explanation! Metatron!

I really appreciate the thumbnail made for this video.

Could you make a video about the Roman assimilation of Iberia? Specifically the Lusitanians, the Gallaeci, the Celtici and the Conii (Cynetes)? Pre-Roman and Early Roman history of Portugal is barelly known

@heretohear1847

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, honestly its rarely talked about how iberians and french people are probably more of the cloth of the original people than Italian settlers, specifically french people, so much vocabulary is straight up gaulish, very interesting

@liviuganea4108

2 жыл бұрын

Iberia was a state in the Caucases.

Hey Metatron, do you think you could make a video about the Sicilian king and German emperor Federico secondo, maybe about his fathers campaign in Sicily ? Federico/Friedrich is probably one of the coolest characters in the history of the Middle Ages. And congrats on half a million subs. 👊🏻

I *love* hearing you read Latin!!!

You should do more of this, but try to get sources from the Neighboring civilizations that talk about how evil they were. For example, if you do one for the Samurai you could bring up the Imjin War and see if the Koreans and Chinese thought that they were evil. Could also do one for the Crusaders, but that might be controversial!

MetaTron, you did a FANTASTIC job with this, I can't imagine it being done in a fairer and more accurate/sophisticated manner. You answered this otherwise 'superstitious' question in a very Mature & Scientific way, which should be fit for any type of receiver with an open mind. Salus!

As always, it all comes down to Context, Context, and especially Context.

1:17 - Rome: Total War! Had to include that one! Haha. Seriously though, I felt like a Roman General in that game, it was awesome and very atmospheric.

Another example of the the vagueries of evil is the philosophical "emotivist" view. Some philosophers, such as A J. Ayer, for example, equate morality with a preferred emotional reaction and the only objectivity we have is that people consistently reacted the same way to an action or idea

The Romans in the Barbarians series have the diplomatic skills of orcs.

@happyslapsgiving5421

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that part was very clumsy. I mean, these guys are sent there to *make friends* with this tribe, and what do they do? They boss people around and then they start awkwardly shouting "ROMA VICTRIX" to the wrong crowd. It's like they were asking to get slaughtered. Historically, that's not what happened, but I guess the Austrian production needed to make it look like the Germanic tribes were innocent, good and pure by modern day standards and the Romans were just terrible.

@bravomike4734

2 жыл бұрын

@@happyslapsgiving5421 Oh, Austrian production. That makes sense.

@rogeriopenna9014

2 жыл бұрын

@@happyslapsgiving5421 the germanic tribes just follow an OLD romantic cliche of the noble savage. I think the term was coined in the 18th century, mainly for the native of the New World, possibly for African tribes too... basically, civilization has corrupting influences, while uncivilized people are pure, brave, truthful, etc It's much older however. Sometimes has different concepts, but similar. I think Gaius Julius Caesar himself write that the Gaul or Germanic barbarians fought bravely, unlike Romans, who had been softened by civilisation. Something like that. A weird complaint since it were Romans conquering the world...

@happyslapsgiving5421

2 жыл бұрын

@Viktor Samoja Frankly, that's just based assumptions. Source?

@obiologo

2 жыл бұрын

Romans were terrible diplomats. This is because a diplomat saw himself as a representation of the Roman state, and because of that, they were not very polite and political when they came to negotiate with representatives of other states, or even kings.

"Any nation that thinks it can achieve peace solely through peacful means will soon be occupied by another nation" Fidel Castro

@frankheilingbrunner7852

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen the same sentiment put even more bluntly: "People who beat their swords into plowshares will end up doing the plowing for the people who still have swords."

@Palora01

2 жыл бұрын

Except that doesn't mean go out and invade before you are invaded. It means mantain an army.

@frankheilingbrunner7852

2 жыл бұрын

@@Palora01 Quite true. The Romans sometimes applied "Si vis pacem, para bellum" a little too ... proactively.

@Cyricist001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Palora01 Except those that invaded will end up with more land, gold and manpower, so anyone that remains passive will lose in the long run. When survival is at stake, all is fair game.

@schreckpmc

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Fidel Castro. He’s my normal go to for wise advice.

Metatron, I absolutely love your work. I really appreciate the amount of work and sincerity you commit to helping the public learn. In that spirit, and in that of Socrates, I humbly ask you to reread Plato's relevant dialogues on questions of morality, as well as Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, and Politics, with patience. Then please consider taking a looking a look at the Late Antique philosophy which coincided with the Empire, such as Sallust, Celsus, Iamblichus, and Julian. I believe this could help you, and the rest of us as well. You're a giant, Metatron, and I consider you one of my mentors. Best regards.

Ciao Metatron ^^ Un video splendido! Grazie per la cura che ci metti in ogni produzione.

Just going by the title here - The Romans were very much a mixed bag, just as with any other nationality. On average, they wanted the same things we want. To live their lives with as much joy as possible, to have their needs met, and for the most part, to be left alone. It's not until you get into the politics that things begin to change.

"They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace." ~Tacitus, Agricola, Chapter 30.

@gennarosavastano9424

2 жыл бұрын

Cute

@JoRosieQueen68

2 жыл бұрын

Describes the Russian Empire and the later USSR perfectly :))

@Timeflyer2

2 жыл бұрын

And, this could be said of Spain in the New World, Britain’s Empire, Australia and the Aborigines, and the United States with the Native Americans and our later interference in Central and South America - the list goes on.

@gennarosavastano9424

2 жыл бұрын

@@Timeflyer2 virtually every single race, culture and civilization with little exceptions, all did same thing.

@mrwhat5094

2 жыл бұрын

@@gennarosavastano9424not only is that mislabeling but also an understatement. The word your really looking for is accurate.

The thing I love most about you, from the very first time I saw you, was your correct pronunciation. 'Yulius Kaiser'. My heart skipped a beat. People study Latin and think to themselves 'I am superior' and still say 'Joolius Seezar' and 'Sissero' and it makes me cringe. Not once have you made me cringe, and I love that. Thank you.

sir, you are such a wonderful teacher. Thank you.

when judging th past i have this to say: were romans good at war? of course not, they had no tanks no airforce and would get smashed by any modern military. judging the past with modern standards is like claiming the romans lacked tanks, it is ridiculous. they should be judged in context

@inserisciunnome

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a great way to put It. Will definitely recicle this One!

@Bickdickrandy

2 жыл бұрын

Straight facccsssss

@szarekhthesilent2047

2 жыл бұрын

They did lack tanks though.

@inserisciunnome

2 жыл бұрын

@Andree De haan slaves weren't Just casually yeeted at Lions y'know. And people are told of how he killed in Battle a fuckton of Gauls, but you omit that he made many Counsuls After conquering the region. Genocide isn't "Killing alotta people", that Is a massacre, a Genocide Is targeting and wipingn or otherwise mistreating a specific group of people based on ethnic origin, wich the Romans didn't do. You're an enemy? You die. Simple as. Stop misusing the term, It makes It loose weight.

@szarekhthesilent2047

2 жыл бұрын

@Andree De haan Celts made a living of capturing and selling germanic people to romans. The would also occasionally peel their captured enemies skin, bleed them out, break their legs and bury them in a crack in the ground, sacrifice and mutilate slaves when they were under the weather attack each other for gain (...). not a great counterexample of nonbarbaric behaviour. At least the romans only did it sometimes.

Thank you for such a scholarly analysis of the question, not to mention a quality history lesson. The breadth of your research and varied, seemingly unrelated historical facts that you used to help explain your opinion were enlightening (eg. the word “genocide” being defined in 1948 by a Polish, Jewish lawyer; the difference in the application of the law between citizens & slaves etc.).

I love your channel. I had to subscribe

If I may offer a piece of advice... please state your biases upfront. We all have biases and I don't fault you for having your point of view, I just think it's fair to the viewer to state them straight away. I REALLY enjoyed this video BTW

Oddly enough, I was just listening to Simon on the question Were the Romans Psychopaths? He mentioned many of the things you mentioned, including context. One thing he got into as well was the LEADED WATER. He explores this as a possible influence, and ameliorates it as well, depending on circumstance. Very interesting to me, Flint Mi being a short drive from here, and knowing it's not the only town with this problem today.

@sit-insforsithis1568

Жыл бұрын

What is flint mi

@CG-eh6oe

Жыл бұрын

Leaded water is probably a myth. Lead reacts with the lime in water, resulting in a thick patina on the inside of the tube; the fresh water wont have conteact with lead.

@JNC7

11 ай бұрын

@@sit-insforsithis1568 Flint, Michigan

A brilliant, informed and compassionate discussion of a very thorny subject. On a side issue, there is no doubt that during the long Pax Romana the level of general literacy for ‘the common people’ was at a hight not to be regained in Europe till the mid 19th century... it was due to the number of common but literate citizens that we have such a wealth of (often quite rude!) Roman graffiti..... Even Brian’s knowledge of Latin, whilst not perfect was still pretty impressive!

@ronimausanti9625

Жыл бұрын

Whaat, Roman literacy was around 50 60%? Because that's how it was in the mid 19th century as you mentioned. Literacy in the Roman Empire was faar lower as they didn't have any public schools, they had the far more primitive private schools and tutors. Public schools is a product of the age of enlightenment and tax reforms, it's waay ahead the Roman society at every level. Also, it's hard to generalize an entire population for graffitis in Pompeii, besides, there are over a thousand runic inscriptions written by the laity(non-clergy), including gay sex even, but that doesn't prove the population was "largely literate", it just proves that there might be some more literacy than originally thought. Originally thought being 3-10%. Without public schools you can't produce a literate society, I'm sorry.

I’m a Rome fanboy too but at the end of the day I think Carthage was a genocide as much as Troy. Scipio fully intended to completely destroy the Carthaginian culture and way of life through death and destruction, I think its enough to consider a genocide. Not hating on good ol Cornelius or anything just my opinion.

@krushervimose4599

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention Carthaginians sacrificed their own children.

@bruschetta7711

2 жыл бұрын

@@krushervimose4599 that's not to take in account, killing an entire civilization/culture/whatever of bad people is still a genocide

@krushervimose4599

2 жыл бұрын

@@bruschetta7711 Righteous genocide?

@bruschetta7711

2 жыл бұрын

@@krushervimose4599 i guess?

@pougetguillaume4632

2 жыл бұрын

@@krushervimose4599 righteous genocide is like positive stoning Neither of these combinations of words work no matter how you look at it.

ciao paisan, salve... with all my heart i feel yours is the absolute greatest of channels in terms of honest, true and factual dissemination of accurate; history, statistics, sociology, media, the human condition, language, point of fact social/civil impact of all possible subject matter and on and on. amico mio, i, without hesitation can honestly say that you are one of the most intelligent men to have ever graced us with wisdom and knowledge. all this and best of all you make it all fun. make no mistake i am including television, film, radio and literature along with youtube/patreon when i say this. please never ever stop. it would be a blow against mankind if you did and i mean that sincerely. plus, on a personal level, since my mamma e pappa have passed you are about one of the only people i get to speak sicilian with. you're the best at what you do and i'm always looking forward to what's next no matter what it is because it will be the benchmark of subject matter... alore, paisan ti saluti. ciao ciao.

Compassion is something we have always had a choice to show. Evil? No they were not. Cruel? Oh yes..They were.

@chengkuoklee5734

2 жыл бұрын

Compare with Mongols, they are way way better. If Roman are evil, then what makes Mongols?

@HMN134

2 жыл бұрын

@@chengkuoklee5734 Demons from hell?

@TheLostArchangel666

2 жыл бұрын

@@chengkuoklee5734 Twice wrong doesn't make once right.

@SRosenberg203

2 жыл бұрын

@@chengkuoklee5734 So you're saying it's acceptable to murder someone, as long as you can point to someone worse and say "Well look at him! He murdered 5 people!"

@ronimausanti9625

Жыл бұрын

@@SRosenberg203 Whataboutery seems to permeate this comment section heavily.

No Reject Nihilism. Embrace Rome!

@kleonymos5726

2 жыл бұрын

Ave!

@noblechief4023

2 жыл бұрын

Ave

@inserisciunnome

2 жыл бұрын

Ave!

@magisterrleth3129

2 жыл бұрын

True to Ceasar? Or is that not appropriate here?

@andredeketeleastutecomplex

2 жыл бұрын

Let it burn in hell, with all other empires!

you make excellent videos.

Rome, from 270 BC to 1453 AD is the literal definition of Lawful Natural

"Rome was the light".-Maximus

@stepanpytlik4021

2 жыл бұрын

*is*

@PAUL14447

2 жыл бұрын

Ave

@szarekhthesilent2047

2 жыл бұрын

"Rome is shining brightest" Nero.

@rodrigoyago3157

2 жыл бұрын

"And yet you have never been there."

@burbanpoison2494

2 жыл бұрын

"remember that time I killed Commodus, flipped a switch, and made a herd of post-fascist livestock magically transform into a self-governing republic that doesn't tolerate corruption because.... Um, because Commodus got stabbed. Oh, also, I fucked the emperor's daughter supposedly so no shit I like Rome." -the same guy, whose name is Russell.