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@Progamermove_2003

Жыл бұрын

All hail Metatron the Mythbuster!

@Progamermove_2003

Жыл бұрын

At 11:10, wouldn't the fat have been decomposed alongwith the rest of the non-skeletal body parts? And how would they determine the weight of the individual gladiators with just their bones and DNA?

@lukutiss1324

Жыл бұрын

@@Progamermove_2003 They may have been able to see the effect of obesity on bone structure. Also, it's entirely possible that gladiators who were successful/wealthy eventually got old and fat. I doubt that any significant number of active gladiators were fat.

@Intranetusa

Жыл бұрын

I think the fat gladiator portion was inspired by the archeological discovery that gladiators had a mostly vegetarian high carb diet with low animal protein, so their diet was completely different than modern day athletes who eat a leaner, high protein, usually animal protein diet. "Some" of the articles about the archeological discoveries (such as the article called 'gladiators diets were carb heavy, fattening, and mostly vegetarian' by Atlasobscura) say they had a high Calorie high Carb diet that may have created a body with a higher percent of body fat than our perception of a lean athelete with 6 pack abs. This may have created additional layers of fat and skin that protected their muscles and vital organs during fights.

@mortache

Жыл бұрын

While the language was really colorful, I think you missed their point about the samurai. They didn’t say bows were obsolete, but more importantly that the bows aren't something a Samurai would carry in a civilian setting. They were talking about when the Samurai became basically civilians (after the Sengoku Judai, ofc) and started to glorify the sword, and bows aren't something you're carrying in civilian settings. Of course a lot of samurai still saw combat, but a warrior elite class wasn’t practical for armies anymore.

I can imagine articles 200 years in the future, claiming: "soldiers were ashamed of pistols, as they were pathetic last resort".

@Dowlphin

9 ай бұрын

And then 300 years from now: *ACTUALLY* they were quite proud of them and often even celebrated them as "sex pistols".

@w.devarien3154

9 ай бұрын

"Infantryman would often place condoms on their rifles to intimidate enemies during desert warfare"

@StephenDelRosario777

7 ай бұрын

*ACTUALLY* Switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading

Emperor Titus: "I will proclaim gladiators Priscus and Verus victors and grant them both their freedom" Domitian: "Are you going to declare a tie because you consider both warriors so brave and honorable that their lives are worth more than a bloody victory?" Emperor Titus: "F*ck no! I am going to declare a tie because they're so fat that their bellies collide before their swords can. They haven't been able to hit each other for half an hour and the public is getting tired!!!" 🤬

@FlagAnthem

Жыл бұрын

Oh we in Italy remember them His holyness Piero Angela used their tsle to teach us about gladiators

@willfakaroni5808

Жыл бұрын

I bet more people would go to see that then an actual gladiator fight

@rcarfang2

Жыл бұрын

@@FlagAnthem what's a tsle?

@jeanlloydbradberry9099

Жыл бұрын

@@rcarfang2 "tale" with a typeau?

@rcarfang2

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanlloydbradberry9099 oh okay. i spent 10 minutes searching for "tsle". I didn't realize that on a keyboard, the "A" and "S" keys were next to each other XD.

Yeah this follows a pattern that's becoming more and more common: try to down play history and the images and even legends behind it in order to make moderns feel better and to take away a gigantic inspiration to people. It boggles the modern critic that there were historical societies with entirely different value systems, different world views, qualities in some ways better than ours, and of course badass stories, armor, training, architecture etc

@williamarthur6644

Жыл бұрын

Subvert the current culture by deconstructing and tearing down their history. Leave them with nothing to be proud of and they will no longer value their own society.

@Grasslander

Жыл бұрын

How true.

@sircole4549

Жыл бұрын

Very true

@accelerationquanta5816

Жыл бұрын

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this.

@CIintB3ASTW0oD

11 ай бұрын

Because they are trying to tear down our culture to elevate theirs. It's as simple as that.

Soon: *ACTUALLY* medieval horses were so small, the knights didn't ride them into battle, but it was the other way around, the horses charged into battle on top of knights.

@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380

Жыл бұрын

😅

I work regularly with horses on a farm, and I can tell you right now that if a horse, let alone an armored horse carrying a shining silver knight in armor with a huge lance, were charging straight at you, most people would run away in fear.

@atimidbirb

Жыл бұрын

Especially a warhorse, that is trained to not be scared of chaos and noise!

@Hollie0981

Жыл бұрын

Preach!! Trynna imagine these keyboard daydreamers getting mowed by a horse at full tilt is giving me life 😂

@t2av159

Жыл бұрын

Warhorse are modern day ponies.

@bogdan3907

Жыл бұрын

Decades ago, in then URSS, a film maker used soldiers from army for figurants against a polish hussars charge, in a historical movie. Despite they knew is not a real charge and cavalry had to stop some meters in front of them, the real soldiers was so scared of charge that they ran away when cavalry was approached. Must be a terrific vision to be a pedestrian and to see a whole group of knights charged against you.

@bleflar9183

Жыл бұрын

@@bogdan3907 Man, we should really start using shock cavalery again in the modern military

The gladiator thing may have come from some findings of food remnants found at sites and in bodies discovered. I remember reading an article on this, and the picture of fat-packed linebackers ducking it out. Then I met a friend of mine at work a few years back. The girl is hardcore into weightlifting and eats ridiculous amounts of carbs. Everyone teases her about her eating, but the simple fact is? SHE’S NOT FAT! She’s in excellent shape, trim, toned, and it’s because her strength training causes her body to almost continuously burn calories. Simple science would suggest Gladiators ate the foods they did to keep up energy as they practiced daily to fight for their lives when it was their time.

@staC-wh6ik

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Yet some people can't tell the difference between a strong dude with still quite some body fat, and an obese guy.

@Ulexcool

Жыл бұрын

The past is not the present.

@freman007

Жыл бұрын

And actual "Strongmen" don't look like bodybuilders either. A thick, muscular, waist supports the back and allows greater exertion in the upper body. Having some fat provides fuel for the muscles. Dieted down to 4% body fat as (male) bodybuilders do for competition is not healthy and cuts into their stamina.

@gameragodzilla

Жыл бұрын

Hell, it’s often a problem for soldiers who retire from the military to suddenly gain a lot of weight, since their extremely active lifestyle in the military requires a massive amount of calories and food, but once they are back in civilian life, they’re still used to their old diet despite no longer being as active, resulting in weight gain. If you’re constantly physically active, like gladiators would be, a lot of these super fattening foods would’ve been required to get the necessary energy. Though I can imagine if gladiators retired, they’d run into the same problem.

@neurotic3015

Жыл бұрын

Please tell that woman I’m extremely interested romantically and if she’s ever desperate enough, I am here.

I watched a knight charge through a car door during a demonstration. Lance went straight through both sides of the door and broke. Imagine being a person holding up a shield against that...even the Imperial Roman army would be like wtf.

@HanSolo__

11 ай бұрын

Winged Hussars doing multiple charges with multiple replaced pikes after every broken one. Squires waiting for their masters with fresh pikes, swords, horses, and loaded pistols.

@SG-1-GRC

11 ай бұрын

Even the mock lances used in the demonstration tourneys in Leeds Armouries tilt yard can be dangerous and the participants have to be very careful despite how flimsy they are. Agree a knight charging at you with a lance was a formidable deterrent.

@HanSolo__

10 ай бұрын

It makes two holes in a car just like AK does.

@geechyguy3441

10 ай бұрын

The Imperial Roman army died out long before knight charges began though.

@chuckyxii10

9 ай бұрын

yeah and the same would happen to a knight's armor from a pike.

Reading "side weapon" and thinking "Wow, they must have been ashamed of it" is such a logic leap... Truly, author of this piece of art is a game journo of historical articles.

Everyone, we have to appreciate Metatron for the suffering he endures for our entertainment 😢

@m0-m0597

Жыл бұрын

i appreciate no suffering

@Vicus_of_Utrecht

Жыл бұрын

Dear God should know mine as a thermodynamicist oh ffs, 80% of science is just trash, it's sad. And everything "settled science" about C02 is fundamentally wrong. But I'm silenced. And the VERY SAME silencers claim a boy can menstrate. I will only obliquely name the cabal here- never, ever, ever, allowed to be criticize.

@machetey

Жыл бұрын

And education!!!!

@ChadKakashi

Жыл бұрын

These articles are dime a dozen and are produced daily. They’re just mouse traps on the internet. You’re not missing much by not reading them.

@Loxley81

Жыл бұрын

So Metatron is pretty much a gladiator: Suffering and fighting through harshness to entertain us. 😎👍

Regarding the samurai, I seem to recall hearing that they were very practical warriors. They studied bows as a means of "keep danger over there". They studied swords as a matter of "if I need to use this, my life is literally on a blades edge". They wouldn't be ashamed of a backup weapon. It's a back up weapon because it's your last line of defense before dying.

@KWillo

Жыл бұрын

​@@lucabaki interesting enough, the samurai used rifles Alot after trading with Europeans.

@synthwolfe8906

Жыл бұрын

@@KWillo as I said, practical. But rifles were expensive, both to trade for and to make. By that point, you could arm a small army with bows OR outfit a single unit with rifles for about the same cost. It simply wouldn't make sense to say "we have guns? Cool, burn the bows, retrain the bowmen". Especially when you also factor in reload time. A company of archers could get off 2-3 volleys in the time it would take to reload the rifle. Likely more if you allow free fire, though that'd be less effective than a wave of arrows.

@h0m3st4r

Жыл бұрын

Of course, in most ancient cultures around the world-including Japan-the sword was a backup weapon, much like how pistols are backup weapons for modern armies.

@KWillo

Жыл бұрын

@@synthwolfe8906 Don't fret, I actually liked your initial comment in regards to bows used by the samurai.Though, the Samurai were downright scary regardless of waht weapons they possessed.The Infamous Ronin Miyamoto musashi killed a man with a carved piece of wood.

@synthwolfe8906

Жыл бұрын

@@KWillo lol no worries. And yeah, they were scary. It's lead to countless myths about them, but honestly the truth is far scarier than any myth. Honestly, I've studied European history far more, but I read a lot on Japanese history back in the day.

I'm reading The Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi right now. I don't know much about Samurai or Japanese history, but just from what I read I get the impression that they were NOT ashamed of the katana.

@BadGamesHere

Жыл бұрын

Good book, I tried reading it and didn’t finish. Regarding the katana thing, yeah. They were one of the samurai’s most effective weapons, because no matter what new technology came out, you can’t beat a pointy metal stick.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, by the time that dude wrote that book, it was far enough after after the Tokugawa Shogunate became a thing that it's safe to say that he never saw a real battlefield As such, that's probably not the best reference for what it was truly like for samurai, but more of the foundation of what they'd *ideally* be about until the Meiji Restoration and subsequent Satsuma Rebellion collectively put an end to the samurai until Imperial Japan needed something to use to motivate troops during its expansionist period until its defeat.

@schizoidmeme5470

Жыл бұрын

@@BadGamesHere They WERE the most effective weapons... Until Guns were created.

@SmolAnarchy

Жыл бұрын

@@BadGamesHere Well, not really, it was a last resource weapon, they had way better weapons such bows and spears. You can't beat a long range pointy metal tip.

@shoopoop21

Жыл бұрын

@@SmolAnarchy Yeah, but consider Japanese AND european culture for a little bit. For extra credit, realize that the videogame weapon kills everyone thinks are the most pog are melee knife kills, and doing more with less. That's not Japan or Asia, that's just literally how human being are programmed and tend to think about things. They didn't revere the katana in spite of being a stress weapon, but because of it. It also stands that peasant warrior ashigaru were more than capable of using yari pretty effectively, but the sword required you to be a trained warrior.

There was a documentary with Mike Loades and Dan Snow where they simulated just how terrifying being in the receiving end of a cavalry charge would be. The noise alone if one horse in full barding with a rider in full plate mail on top was unnerving to say the least. Now magnifiy that by hundreds. And it's coming right at you. There's a reason why Shock Cavalry is sent to hit a part of the line that looks like it won't hold its nerve.

@Dowlphin

9 ай бұрын

He did seem to neglect discussing the lance point, though. What if they did point a row of lances at the riders? Or what if they dodged between the horses and then thrust their lances at the cavalry? Riding a horse straight into that seems kinda risky, basically deliberately wasting your horse in the process.

@azaria5419

9 ай бұрын

@@Dowlphin Could also shoot a decent amount of arrows to scare the horses. I doubt the aim would have to be good for the effect to work.

@matham625

8 ай бұрын

Cavalry was Rubbish.. thats why most armies stopped using it after 1940... although the Police still seem to think its worth using

@ZeroScotland

8 ай бұрын

@@Dowlphineven if the pikemen/spearmen/polearm user managed to stab the horse, *that same person with the polearm can get pushed hard with the motion of the falling horse,* giving a chance of the line breaking if given enough horsies, which much of times, was the case

You know they keep saying that guns immediately replaced bows. That's like saying "Rifles and hand guns were quickly replaced with tanks"

@azh698

Жыл бұрын

This is a bit infuriating. The first thing that could be recognised as a gun, the hand cannon, first appeared in Europe around 1300. Bows were integrated into the armies until at least 1600.

@markusgorelli5278

Жыл бұрын

@@WelloBello I'm sure bows remained the rapid fire weapon of choice for quite a while. 🤔

@sayroto

Жыл бұрын

@@markusgorelli5278 iirc the colt 6 shooter pistol was developed in part as a way to combat comanche archers who were noted to be able fire arrows fast enough to have several in the air at once. off top of my head Im guessing thats somewhere in the 19th century? so bows were still capable of challenging firearms up to like 200 years ago? i could be wrong in all this though, been a while since i read up on it.

@smileywarhead5178

Жыл бұрын

​ @azh698 until the 1900s. Look up Jack "Mad Jack" Churchill. Psycho used a longbow in a lot of battles and wars, including WW2. Died of old age.

@azh698

Жыл бұрын

@@smileywarhead5178 I know about Mad Jack. I'm speaking purely on the idea of army regiments being armed with bows.

Pike Square formations, as used by the Swiss and later Germans were in fact extremely proficient at neutralizing cavalry. However what most people tend to overlook is that pitting a pike square against a cavalry charge is extremely dangerous. It's a high risk-high reward tactic. A large part of the near mythical reputation these imperial mercenaries cultivated came not only from the effectiveness of their tactics, but simply the massive balls they had to deploy them in the first place.

@filmandfirearms

Жыл бұрын

Those massive balls also helped weigh them down and keep them in place when the horses collided

@exantiuse497

Жыл бұрын

It's not risky per se, as long as it's executed properly (i.e. the disciplind of the soldiers holds). You can't perform a cavarly charge in a braced line of infantry, that is suicide, and a horse, which is an intelligent animal, isn't going to scewer itself in a pike. As long as the formation holds the cavalry can't ram itself through the infantry line; as long as the mens' morale doesn't break they're safe. Of course it's extremely difficult to stand ground before a charging cavalry unit, and sometimes even professional infantrymen would break and get slaughtered as a result, so it was risky in that sense. Untrained conscripts or militiamen wouldn't stand a chance

@pyrolight7568

Жыл бұрын

What is important is that pikemen were not around for most of the medieval period.

@gehtdichnixan3200

Жыл бұрын

thats why cavalery changed to lighter armor pistols and sword after softing up the pike square they still where able to charge with sword in hand (black / german rider tactics) and the polish hussars even stayed at there old lance charges and it was there finest time

@josephwalukonis9934

Жыл бұрын

But pike squares did not completely neutralize cavalry. Please consult Oman's work on Renaissance warfare. The French countered Swiss pike formations using alternating cavalry charges from their fully armored men-at-arms and artillery fire. The men-at-arms that broke into the pike formations often fought their way through and came out through the back of the pike formations.

That article opened my eyes, cavalry was so ineffective and a waste or resources that armies used it untill the first world war because apparently the armies needed to get rid of horses and people at the same time.

@RodolfoDM

Жыл бұрын

@Bifocal Burrito to my knowledge it was "used" until mid late second war, with the Russian counter offensive a great story is the last cavalry charge from the Italian cavalry of savoy despite it being a minor skirmish was a succes ahaha

A few years ago I saw a gladiator reenactment group that their dedicated members loved the gladiator lifestyle, taking instructions from what written records we have. Included a very heavy enriched diet with a lot of exercise. Back then because they didn't have the same knowledge on the microscopic level of how the body functions as we do now, the idea was more food meant a bigger man as well as adding extra exercise. The way these guys all look though they were massive, intimidating, and even though they had a belly you could easily see that with one punch they could knock you out. I've been trying to find the article again so I can share it here, I'll reply to this comment when I finally do

@swissarmyknight4306

Жыл бұрын

It is the same for sumo; always bulk, never cut. They didn't know how to cut and retain muscle, but they knew how to bulk, so they might have had a very "strongman" build. Not because fat is an advantage; fat is a side effect of gaining muscle bulking.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

@@swissarmyknight4306 Both had sense enough to know that being physically active built muscle though, so there was muscle there, even when someone was obese.

@thatindiandude4602

Жыл бұрын

​@@InfernosReaperas an MMA fan, I am reminded of Daniel Cormier, who is short and fat and fought much taller opponents. The guy looks like your middle aged uncle who loves BBQs but was a UFC heavyweight champ at one point.

@kevingray4980

11 ай бұрын

The only reason most modern professional fighters have the shredded physique is because of weight classes. Once you hit an open weight division, worrying about fat is generally going to limit performance. Just look at athletes from sports like like rugby, American football, sumo, powerlifting, etc.

@Compton3clipsed

9 ай бұрын

The second purpose was performance. Being built that way allowed them to take much more superficial damage and still survive to fight another day. The myth that gladiators were just thrown in the Colosseum like meat and churned through is very popular but not accurate. They were seen much more akin to how we would see high level athletes that just happen to do something bloody and barbaric. They took a lot of investment, and their dying needlessly was a waste to the gladiatorum that bought and trained them.

You could have a field day debunking all the myths about ancient and medieval soldiers: the armor of knights made knights slow and cumbersome, Mongols didn't know how to siege fortifications and castles, Samurai charged into battle with katanas and hated modernizing, the Chinese were bad at fighting nomads, the Romans didn't use spears, the Celts were screaming naked painted barbarians who wore no armor and had no cities, the Germanic tribes were fur wearing 6 foot tall barbarians who fought with clubs and axes, Middle Eastern and African soldiers only wore light to no armor, etc.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

All of those have a kernel of truth in them but as a generalization are also totally wrong.

@Intranetusa

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@vaughanmacegan4012

Жыл бұрын

The Mongols completely failed against the Hungarian (heavy and light) cavalry in 1285 - with fortifications on the larger settlements - they even helped the Polish repel the Mongols from their lands as well during that same year using the same tactics.

@filmandfirearms

Жыл бұрын

@@kaltaron1284 So do all myths and lies. There really were a disproportionate amount of Jews in the WW1 German government. There's nothing to suggest they had a disproportionate part in the defeat, but they were for Hitler to use as a scapegoat. There really are a bunch of weird and hard to explain events, even some which might suggest extra terrestrials. That doesn't mean that the government is inflitrated by aliens, as some of the more comical conspiracies claim

@Intranetusa

Жыл бұрын

​@@vaughanmacegan4012 No, the "Mongols" didn't completely fail. The Golden Horde faction of the Mongols after the Mongol Empire split into multiple different bickering kingdoms is what had trouble against larger fortifications in Eastern Europe. The Golden Horde spent more time fighting other Mongol factions than fighting external enemies, and was one of the smaller powers that didn't have access to the resources, manpower, siege engineers and technology of the larger and more advanced Mongols factions like the Ilkhanate Empire and Yuan Empire. The Ilkhanate and Yuan Empire had access to advanced siege engines, money, supplies, and the masses of heavy infantry it takes to siege a castle, and they had no trouble taking larger fortifications. See the Kaidu-Kublai War, Toluid Civil War, Chagatai-Ilkhanid civil war, Berke-Hulagu civil war, Esen Buqa-Ayurbarwada civil war, etc that was basically half a century of Mongol civil wars after the Great Khan Mongke got himself killed during his war against the Song Empire.

"A warrior who fought on horseback was truly screwed if the enemy knew what they were doing." Said the man who has no idea what a horse is.

@axelmok498

Жыл бұрын

Nah, man you just gotta stand in its way lol

@abcdefghij337

Жыл бұрын

“Truly screwed if the enemy knew what they were doing.” What they’re doing: Getting run over by a horse, or fifty. Ah, yes. Truly screwed.

@Tired-of-fools

Жыл бұрын

Please, sir. Go deep in your mind. 😊

@RandomPerson-hd6wr

Жыл бұрын

Literally anyone gets screwed if their enemy knows what to do, these articles must've been ai generated

@aramisone7198

Жыл бұрын

Well if a soldier had a pike that would help against a horse.

I've been on the front lines of the Saxon army at the Hastings reenactment, on more than one occasion, and I can assure you that when the conroi charges across the front of your formation it gets the heart pumping. On one occasion a lone horse went off script, and crashed through the lines. I dread to think how much mayhem would be caused by a determined charge of dozens of horses, where the well being of your fellow reenactors was of no concern.

@chuckyxii10

9 ай бұрын

Yet at the actual battle of Hastings the Knight charges were stopped dead by the Saxons, it wasn't till the Saxons broke ranks to charge the Normans that they were overcome.

@andread5560

4 ай бұрын

Yep. But the knight charge of the norman was very differnt from axchargevyou could have seen 1 century later. In 1066, the horse were not barded and were lighter. Try to tink to a late middle age knight charge with a heavy and barded horse. A wall shield would breack in half. To defeat an heavy knight charge the solution was a compact formation with 6 meters lance not a useless wall shield.

I once watched a documentary about gladiators that did put forth the idea that their body shape was intentionally padded with a layer of soft tissue to make wounds less lethal. They based it on contemporary artwork and descriptions in written accounts. They were not sumo size but more like American football defensive linemen. They were not made unathletic by the extra weight but it increased their survivability. This seemed to make practical sense as the Romans were the most practical of ancient people in all things martial.

@chuckyxii10

9 ай бұрын

Yeah beefy guys aren't necessarily unfit, you see a lot of Chonky boi's in modern heavyweight fighting sports. Having mass helps in combat.

I do remember reading an anthropological article about how gladiators put on some extra fat for protection. The fat layers would make shallow cuts not as deadly. Of course this doesn't mean they were obese

@richardsanchez5444

Жыл бұрын

Kind of like sumo wrestlers. Yeah they got body fat but theres a lot of muscle under there. It helps cushion the blows cuz they hit hard.

@sladval

Жыл бұрын

The next time I order fast food I can justify it as +1 armour not unhealthy eating

@badfoody

Жыл бұрын

Also take into account That super shredded looking bodybuilder body types are dehydrated Generally id like to see Gladiators as Heavyweight types

@lazios

Жыл бұрын

​@@richardsanchez5444 Sorry (firstly for my English) but Sumo wrestler is not a good comparison, probably the more suitable/closer you can make (considering height anyway) is a heavyweight/middleweight in boxing. A gladiator as big as a sumo wrestler would have had a lot of difficulty using weapons (although it depends on what kind of gladiator he was) and in any case he would get tired too easily. The gladiators were (simply) trained fighters who ate much (much) better than "normal" people (only this basically); sure, is true who (when possible) they tried not to let the gladiator die, but again the explanation is simple: the money, making a gladiator cost time and money, obviously no "manager" wants to lose his athlete/investment after one fight (just to make an ex).🍺

@richardsanchez5444

Жыл бұрын

@@lazios I just meant sumo wrestlers look obese but they are and do require them to be athletic, nimble and strong. Yeah they can't use weapons their body type wouldn't allow it. My point was you don't have to have a six pack and look like an underwear model to be athletic. A better option example is the UFC. Yeah some of them are muscular and show it but some like Roy Nelson don't have the "normal" body type.

OF COURSE the Samurai of old were ashamed of their Katanas, they couldn't fold them 4,000 times with the technology available at the time. Totally understandable.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the difference between layers and times of folding. Better keep folding then.

@schwarzerritter5724

Жыл бұрын

kaltaron1284 Not many people know the difference between addition and multiplication.

@sd5241

Жыл бұрын

And I dont know how they are still so popular!

@georgeprchal3924

Жыл бұрын

Samurai in real life: So anyway I started blasting.

@jollygoodfellow3957

Жыл бұрын

Katana are typically folded 8 to 16 times, making some thousand layers. Don't confuse layers with folds.

About the heavy cavalry: there is an episode precisely described in memoirs, from Polish-Russian War (battle of Plonka, June the 28th of 1660), where a Winged Hussar in a charge (and they were always charging FULL-SPEED) pierces with his lance 6 (SIX!) musketeers in one movement, like a skewer. I would like the guy who wrote the article to face something like that…

It would seem economically advantageous to keep the gladiatorial fights as showy but minimally lethal as possible, as it would take a lot of time and resources to train a professional, not to mention the price of the slave. And considering how common worked fights are even in supposedly competitive combat sports to this day, I would be surprised if it didn't have a little bit of WWF to it.

@cccpike

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that the economic approach is correct here. Roman elies did not stage gladiatorial combat for economic profit, they did it to show off their wealth and power to the masses. This is also how many huge and lavishly decorated public buildings came to be. These were ways for the emperors and elites to maintain their prestige in the eyes of the populace, not financial investments they would have expected to pay themselves back.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's just absurd to say that "some gladiators were fat, so they'd all be"

@martinportelance138

Жыл бұрын

I agree they were primary showmen, as the best ones were popular idols who got the women and other luxuries. Except the price of defeat often was death, so they had to be serious. Maybe their arena weapons weren't as sharp as those of the legion, when fighting one another. A duller sword can make the difference between a dead asset and one who can fight another match once he heals.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

@@martinportelance138 The price of defeat probably wasn't "often death" to be real. The math just doesn't work out for "often death" being likely outcome. That said debilitating injuries and deaths were something that were going to happen, just not necessarily on purpose.

@lancepage1914

Жыл бұрын

Modern day wrestlers put their body and lives on the line and plenty of them become seriously injured or worst doing so. I can respect that because they do it for the sake of entertaining people. That's the only comparison I like between modern WWE and Gladiators is that they're/were entertainers for sure. But obviously being a Gladiator is a lot more dangerous and fatal. I like to think Gladiators carried themselves like modern day MMA fighters and Boxers, except we would very much miss them if they were severely injured or they lost. We know they were a monumental asset so I like to think too that they had great respect for their opponents.

Okay the look on your face when you got to gladiators was priceless. It was the whole "Oh God! What now?!" look.

I like this type of debunking the debunkers. Lets you share your knowledge on the many topics your know about in a single video. Now, obviously when you go more in depth we get more out of it but this is like a dessert in between meals. Either way, any video is going to be a treat.

@metatronyt

Жыл бұрын

I think this current system of one highly researched video, followed by a couple of old school Metatron videos, plus a lot of these debunking article videos is the way to go for now. It has a bit for everyone in it. If I only made highly researched videos I couldn't post more than once a month, which would not be financially viable, with a family to provide for.

@RyansFine

Жыл бұрын

​@@metatronyt I respect your honesty. Gotta do what you must to put food on your table. Take care, thanks for the amazing content over the years❤❤

@darthsilversith667

Жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt I’ve been subscribed to you for a long time but lately, I have been finding great comfort in your content. It’s truly been a warm fire on a cold night. Keep up the great work and hope all is well with you and your family!

A cavalry charge is basically a controlled and armed stampede. Ask anyone who works with cows, horses, or bison what happens to someone standing in the way of a stampede. I also seem to remember hearing somewhere that those cavalry mounts were battle-trained to be killers in their own right. Sure, there were ways infantry could mount a defense but it was gonna hurt.

@markusgorelli5278

Жыл бұрын

There's a video of two guys getting close to a moose until one reaches out, touches the animal and it turns. The two guys flee, one slips and the moose tries to stomp him. I rather think it must have been something like that. 😬

@BigJay039

7 ай бұрын

Pretty much yeah. War horses had to be tough, they're in a battle ffs. They were taught to run over people. Add barding, 300 lbs of rider, and they were massive both on size and weight.

Two things. My favorite one was the cavalry charge claim. Second, I remember educating a fellow sword club attender on where the difference between a Messer and Falchion came from. He had been repeating the myth that peasants were not allowed to carry swords, but that messrs didn't count. My response was that 'people back then were not stupid'. He thought about it a second, and said, 'yeah, that'd do it'.

@tummytub1161

Жыл бұрын

The messer was probably so a different guild could benefit from the urge people have to arm and protect themselves. The main difference between a Messer and a Falchion was the tang construction making a Messer technically a knife, just a very big one

@andyknightwarden9746

Жыл бұрын

@@tummytub1161 It's a sword constructed like a knife, yeah. But just because it's constructed like a knife doesn't make it not a sword. People seem to think that the folks that were alive in the past were bumbling morons.

@tummytub1161

Жыл бұрын

@@andyknightwarden9746 I only said knife makers used the Messer to get in on the sword making business by a technicality

@andyknightwarden9746

Жыл бұрын

@@tummytub1161 I know. The last part of my comment had nothing to do with you

@tummytub1161

Жыл бұрын

@@andyknightwarden9746 No worries, we are still bumbling morons

For your Cavalry Charge Challenge: I’d bet good money that you wouldn’t even need to have armored soldiers on those horses, a herd a horses running at you is scary (and lethal) enough on its own, and I’d be surprised at anyone without training who had the self control not to hide/flinch/duck/run when mere horses (especially large horses) charged at them, as that’s absolutely terrifying.

@sassyviking6003

Жыл бұрын

Horses are certainly a lot more durable than a human. 2 even 3 direct hits eith arrows have been shown to not always be enough to bring down an unarmored warhorse. Though I would still absolutely armor my hordlse if I jad the money to afford it. A good horse is expensive and you want to protect that investment.

@mikedittsche

Жыл бұрын

Riot police uses horses for this exact reason. They don't even have to charge into the crowd, a trained horse just radiates a lot of authority which makes rioters suddenly have a change of mind. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaWct7Z_ZMu1oJs.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/moCLz5hpmKjNgrg.html Everybody gangsta 'til officer stallion comes charging in.

@countzero5150

Жыл бұрын

​@@sassyviking6003 does anyone know the general value of a trained warehouse from the time period? Not being contrary or facetious, I'm just genuinely curious because I've never heard it mentioned and I "think" it was probably quite a lot.

@sassyviking6003

Жыл бұрын

@@countzero5150 i'm no historian, so I won't bullshit you and pretend I know. I don't. But it is my understanding that horses being so useful were always a decent investment, even draft horses. But a horse strong and swift enough to be useful in battle would be worth a small fortune. As I understand it this is why the knightly tradition was started. Basically the infantry could be peasants levies but you'd never trust something as expensive as a warhorse to anyone but a professional soldier. And this is also why knights would often be nobles who could afford to train at a young age and eat a varied healthy diet etc, but also lowborn who proved to be skilled above their station could be elevated to knights, all so protect the investment of the horse. In fact this I do know the origin word of chivalry is the french word for horsemanship.

@maddogs1989

Жыл бұрын

​@@sassyviking6003 Draft horses didn't exist in medieval times as all known Draft horses are all dependent from destriers. A suit of armor into days money accounting for inflation would be over several million dollars. You add a destrier to it and it would be as much as a modern jet fighter.

I do appreciate a good entertainment rant against historical misconceptions. The gladiator one got to me. My first thought was that bones (as are often dug up in archaeological sites) can’t tell you a persons weight while they were living. Even a full skeleton can’t do that. 🤔 If they were digging up armour, a larger size would indicate a larger wearer, but not how much padding a person carried on their frame.

@scloftin8861

Жыл бұрын

I believe one can tell if the ligament attachments were indicative of more weight. Still, rather than fat, I'd be thinking muscle.

@robo5013

Жыл бұрын

Were they digging up the bodies of gladiators that died in combat or those that retired and died of old age? It seems likely the latter. If so they would definitely have been heavier when they died than when they were active. Look at any retired bodybuilder or athlete that stops exercising when they get to a certain age, muscle turns to fat.

If the author's only idea of Roman soldiers comes from watching Asterix and Obelix, where all soldiers wear uniform-looking armor, gladius and huge shield and march in a testudo formation, then yeah maybe reality comes as a shocker. I used to think the same. When I was 10.

If anything, the katana had a spiritual reverence. Their practice with the blade honed their skills and souls, but also prepared them to use it. It's called a 'side-arm,' and the katana was the most respected sidiest sidearm of iconic history.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

That spiritual stuff didn't really come about until the Edo Period, when things were generally peaceful and they could muse about philosophy. Before that, the katana was just another weapon in their arsenal, one that was very handy to be good with. After all, you can't exactly walk around town with a spear or bow on you at all times, but that sword would usually be close by

@Grasslander

Жыл бұрын

Thinking of Japan, I wonder how often shuriken were actually used. I often wonder just how many ninjas there were.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

@@Grasslander Hard to say. Even in classic Japanese theater the details about the ninja were exaggerated or fabricated. In reality, if a ninja was doing their job even halfway decently, it would be hard to say whether or not if one was actually a ninja.

@christiansorensen7567

Жыл бұрын

@@Grasslander There weren't really historical ninja as we think of them. There were talented men: Scouts, spies, assasins, informants, and night-watchmen. Look up Antony Cummins and some more Metatron videos for some solid historical info on Shinobi.

@KampucheanDemon

Жыл бұрын

@@InfernosReaper my thinking is that the ninjas or farmers per se knew their surroundings and environment to effectively be mobile using guerilla tactics and whatnot. Although their specialty is blending in with the common folk for spying, assassination would seem easy as they would look like some poor farmer all of a sudden they whip out a kama and slit throats.

I remember the days when Cracked was just another intentional comedy site, but that makes me feel old because it feels like it was a very long time ago, and now it seems entirely unintentional.

@chocoman45

Жыл бұрын

yea i thought Metatron was falling for a troll article, but i checked it out and Cracked isn't what it used to be.

Napoleonic tactics of forming square with Musket and Bayonet generally meant shredded Cavalry BUT even then the Cavalry got through pretty regularly and once they did; that square was done for! Heck the British Heavy Cavalry at Waterloo famously destroyed 5 French Regiments {5000 men} having taken them by surprise and not in perfect square.

@nickklavdianos5136

Жыл бұрын

Definitely true and also Napoleonic era heavy cavalry is definitely lighter armoured compared to medieval heavy cavalry, given that the riders were fully armoured and the horses were also armoured usually.

@franohmsford7548

Жыл бұрын

@@nickklavdianos5136 Lighter armoured because by that time armour was no match for musketry - Even Cavalry had pretty much given up on Breastplates. Rifles were just coming in too; with the British having two rifle regiments. - But Horses don't charge into squares unless forced to or the defensive formation falls apart. The same would apply to Medieval Cavalry charging a pike formation - The horses will pull up to avoid the spikes unless their riders force them to kill themselves! - Pike formations in the middle-ages however would have been just as prone {if not more prone given they weren't professional soldiers} to falling apart at the sight and sound of 500 Armed Knights and Destriers bearing down on them at full gallop! If there's any break in that formation the cavalry will go through it and their will be slaughter!

Reacting to the title alone: I'd say yeah, gladiators were "obese" or that is to say they weren't nearly as close to how they're depicted today with body builders approaching sub 3% body fat ratios. They probably weren't obese though in the medical sense. They probably fell in a healthy 10-18% body fat ratio, which might appear a little flabby compared to how they're portrayed. But it's sort of like that actor who plays "The Mountain" in Game of Thrones; by no means is he unhealthy or weak because he doesn't have a chiseled out six pack.

"knight charges were pathetic." I took that personally.

We might have to organize an intervention if Metatron keeps on inflicting this garbage on himself. He may think that he can stop anytime he wants, but that's just what they always say.

Having nice stuff and caring for oneself doesn't make you a fussy dandy...especially if I can stab the opposition with my fancy sword.

I used to read cracked quite a lot. Remember reading this article in particular and some of the beliefs have stuck with me until today. Really glad to have seen this video

So, on the choreographed gladiator fights... Lloyd from Lindybeige posits that the reason that the gladiators helmets are so concealing of the face is that it allowed the combatants to coordinate and communicate. I tend to agree. If You're going into an arena to fight with live weapons, an accidental death is a real possibility, and literally nobody involved wanted that. I think it was a lot closer to the WWE than MMA.

@Iraski

Жыл бұрын

I imagine this had to be true to some degree for at least some times and places. There's a natural incentive to develop some degree of coordination when entertainment is the real goal, because when it comes down to it real fights just aren't a consistent form of entertainment. You can still have a "real" fight even if there's an unspoken gentlemen's agreement to avoid doing things that cause career ending injuries. Hell, even modern pro wrestling is less choreographed that it's made out to be. Yes, there's a shared set of moves all developed to minimize injury, but at the end of the day much of it is improvised and they're still really slamming their bodies into each other and the ring.

@sethsalahadin

11 ай бұрын

Metatron is wrong about this one. He can't be an expert about all history but the article give the wrong idea of gladiator being obese. They just have fat, due to a diet with a lot of oil and glucide (more than the average people of this time), few kilos too much not 15 or something like that. And yes the fight was an entertainement not a real fight. Imagine paying your place to see a real fight, 30 seconds later one of the fighter is dead. So much entertainement time. Just imagine how many gladiators you need to have for a show, in those conditions or be ready to fight an angry mob wanting their money back. Gladiators were like stars, like WWE fighters, you can't risk to have the money maker that bring tons of people in the arena to see the show die like a shit. The fights were dangerous (animals don't care about you, they just want to survive) and can be used as dead sentence but not a deadly as you can imagine (and Metatron seems to think) there were many rules. I hear about the idea that even sometime the winner was decide before the fight (so the gladiators need to agree on how to allow finish the fight and make sure the loser didn't die, because like WWE the winner is the popular one of the moment). But I don't find anything about it (the source from memory was sometone serious about history not a random article) so maybe I don't use the right words to search or it's totaly fake (considere this information as fake because I can't confirm it, but maybe someone could read this and give us something to confirm (or invalidate) this idea.)

I think the fat gladiator portion was inspired by the archeological discovery that gladiators had a mostly vegetarian high carb diet with low animal protein, so their diet was completely different than modern day athletes who eat a leaner, high protein, usually animal protein diet. "Some" of the articles about the archeological discoveries (such as the article called 'gladiators diets were carb heavy, fattening, and mostly vegetarian' by Atlasobscura) say they had a high Calorie high Carb diet that may have created a body with a higher percent of body fat than our perception of a lean athelete with 6 pack abs. This may have created additional layers of fat and skin that protected their muscles and vital organs during fights.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

Which is slightly different than "obese" but I guess that was lost on the author of the article.

@Intranetusa

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The Cracked author must have read those articles and misunderstood it or intentionally exaggerated it.

@Non-vegen

Жыл бұрын

@@kaltaron1284 one easier way to picture it, is that they would look like morden day strongman competition

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

@@Non-vegen Possibly. Although the strongman competitions entail different things than actual fighting.

@maxlutz3674

11 ай бұрын

That high calorie diet is meaningless without knowing the calories spent during activities. Archeologists should know this. I watched a short about lumberjacks in the USA. It mentioned that their breakfast usually had about 5400 kCal and they had lunch and dinner on top of that. Yet they were fit and lean. 5400 kCal may last me for two or maybe three days.

Regarding gladiators, Lindybeige once said that he thinks that the reason for the weird design of their helmets is to hide the fact that they were signaling to each other.

Many years ago, I was threatened by a guy who had a 'live' spear. It was some type of Japanese spear, which he'd had hanging on the wall of his living room. The incident occurred in this living-room, and I was totally unarmed. I can tell you that I was utterly intimidated by the weapon ... the guy held my life in the palm of his hand. I can only imagine what it would be like to have that spear attached to 1000lb of horseflesh + Knight. It would be incredibly difficult to stand firm in the face of that. Just my opinion, of course.

Where you began I was thinking 'How can just reading articles damage his mental health....?' By the end I was rocking back and forth clawing at my eyes.

Regarding Glafiators vs Professional Wrestlers: I think some would have had the same body type. The stout builds of some of the old big men wrestlers like Big Bossman, Hardcore Holly, or Sgt Slaughter compare fairly well to the more puffy looking gladiators seen in some period art.

@miceliusbeverus6447

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be so sure... Wrestlers did exist back then, but to fight with a sword, especially in a one-to-one combat, you need to be agile...

I have studied samurai history for a while now and I never have thought I would have seen a fake article shit on a katana

I do love how you tear these articles down. Bless you Metatron.

I can't remember the documentary, but one from the History channel (before its downfall) said that a lot of the weapons that were designed for gladiator vs gladiator fights were designed to cause as little damage while drawing as much blood as possible. the one that comes to mind is the spear of the myrmidon(?), which had short, wide prongs which would cause wide shallow cuts

The titles sounds like things I would say as a joke for how many misconceptions are out there. These articles man...they're something else alright.

@dangerousdiscourse

Жыл бұрын

They are the initiatives, funded by our tax dollars, to totally rewrite history in order to change the present, and they very essence of human beings. Everything masculine, especially connection with ancestors, is something they seek to break.. they know it adds depth and strength to the soul. This is why, you see remains of people dug up living 1000 years ago, with 100% of their teeth w no rot, yet Hollywood would have you think everyone had teeth rotting out of their heads, they were stupid, and now apparently not truly masculine. Its all nonsense, the only problem is these ppl print the money and if they want the next generation to believe something 180° from the truth, they will certainly see to it.

I saw the title and knew it was in Charge of the Stupid Brigade time.

@juliodyarzagaray

Жыл бұрын

Ours is not to reason why.

I'd love to hear Metatron's take on Total War's historicity ( Rome II and Shogun 2 especially.)

Thanks for reminding us that bows did not come out of fashion with the introduction of the arquebus... massed arquebus fire was an excellent tactic, but bows mere more precise and faster firing, (and of course demanded much more training), so it makes sense to still have archer for sniping and to cover the gunmen while they reload. and if this is a misrepresentation, please tell me how, I'm ready to face possible mistakes.

The more the time passes the more I'm convinced these must be some sort of parody articles. Otherwise is rather hard to come up with a justification for the astonishing amount of ridiculous errors.

@Katzztar

Жыл бұрын

IF they are from Cracked, it's likely they are satire. IF this is same Cracked I knew of 10 yrs ago, it was a satire site worthy of The Onion.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

Nah, they are just clickbait and cheaply made.

@rianmacdonald9454

Жыл бұрын

was thinking the same.

@TheXLink

Жыл бұрын

Never in history has a normal person had so much information literally in the palm of their hand, but ignorance may also be higher then ever. I think some people are just immune to knowledge.

@TheWolfgangGrimmer

Жыл бұрын

That's the problem: Cracked is officially a satire website, but the statements of fact made in these pseudo-debunking articles are not meant as jokes. It serves as a convenient shield for their fanboys whenever someone tries to point out the misinformation, however.

I really wish the word "Viking" was used Correctly and not to describe a Group . Viking is a Verb "To Go Viking" . We just ruined it .

@tomhalla426

Жыл бұрын

I am part Swedish, and it is calling a whole nation pirates. Or highwaymen, which is a closer analogy to one translation, with Vik being a bay or inlet.

@fetus2280

Жыл бұрын

@@tomhalla426 I can understand your feelings behind that. I never thought of it that way mate . Good point. I should have thought along those lines myself, being English and being called colonizing genocidal slave owners and other tripe . Thanks for sharing your view. Cheers.

What I enjoy the most about all your videos is the amount of enthusiasm you display, no matter what you're talking about.

I laughed all the way through the video! Love your work, please don't stop making these even if it's frustrating for you! Grazie!

@metatronyt

Жыл бұрын

Grazie a te!

a charge from heavy cavalry or lancers could probably only be effectively stopped by a very deep and close formation of pikemen, and also only head on. lose formations, shallow formations only like 2 or 3 lines deep, flanking or hammer and anvil tactics would make infantry formations completely and utterly helpless against cavalry. Or you could run into the forest.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

Barricades and the condition of the ground can also help. Some infantry formations tried to protect in all directions but that required more training and discipline. Although it has been done at various points in time. It's really an issue of the whole picture. Most tactics have their place and time.

@schwarzerritter5724

Жыл бұрын

This may sound hard to believe, but Braveheart is not a very historically accurate movie.

@freman007

Жыл бұрын

Yes, "hold your positions, stand your ground" sounds good, until a ton of man and horse are bearing down on you, lance set, along with his mates, similarly equipped. Then it's brown trousers time.

@filmandfirearms

Жыл бұрын

Pike or bayonet squares weren't that effective at actually killing cavalry. However, they were very effective at diverting it. Contrary to Hollywood's depictions, horses have a pretty strong survival instinct, and can tell that several inches of sharpened steel leveled at their head is something they should stay away from if at all possible

@martinmullender-taeter5163

Жыл бұрын

@@freman007 yeah thats exactly the point, thats what separated bloodied veteran troops from the average joe, because it only takes one to start a rout, others will see it and just go like "they are running im not staying here with a few guys to take this on" ... but yeah also bloodied vets sometimes broke ranks, cause lets be honest, you dont want to be on the receiving end of one of those charges whether you stop it or not, and you definitely are not thinking about stopping anything if the people around you are running, no matter how brave you are

I'll convinced these articles are written JUST so Metatron will make a video about it and give them exposure.

@m.f.1132

Жыл бұрын

May Metatron has written them;)

I think the reason why they write calvary charges as useless because everyone uses spears and move in formations was because they got influenced by video games. Its quite common in RTS that units works like rock paper and scissors. Its very often the case that horsemen will lose to spearmen. Also, attacking gaps and flanks on lines, and killing routing soldiers are a very common way to use calvary in Total War games. I also need to note based experience that full on calvary charges on older total War againts spear or pike walls are suicidal. Maybe thats what influenced them to write that.

I personally know a few writers from Cracked, and without letting the cat too much out of the bag, a lot of them are pseudonymous writers who do things there for fun while working at larger pubs like WSJ, NYT. It just demonstrates the level of knowledge a lot of the journalists we get "serious news" from have about anything they report on. And yes, among most journalists, there's this idea that people in the past were dumb and they believe in the "arc of history bending towards one direction" bullshit.

@GholaTleilaxu

7 ай бұрын

So they use pseudonyms on Cracked (fitting name) to spill all the vitriol in their souls and other toxins(sniff, sniff) they have accumulated over years of frustration, working as "independent" journalists.

The main reason why the cavalry charge failed at Agincourt was due to the mud in freshly plowed fields after a heavy rain........

@grahamhanks906

Жыл бұрын

yep, which is why they chose that exact location to stand their ground :-)

@TheEmperorsChampion964

Жыл бұрын

@@grahamhanks906 location, location, location. Just as important in battle as it is in real estate.

@DH_264

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Also the funneling effect of the terrain, the woods on either side meaning the French were shot at from 3 directions, the stakes, the confusion of the charge etc. Some great videos/reenactments on KZread. e.g. History Hits

I'm glad I was listening to you reading this stuff rather than reading it myself, which would probably have lead to something being thrown at a wall.

@rianmacdonald9454

Жыл бұрын

facepalming is taking it toll - think I will join you in throwing something instead. lol

You have uttered wisdom oh mighty Metatron. Keep producing brilliant videos my friend.

Your genuine smile, facial reactions, and dialogue make this channel the best on YT, in my opinion. Of course, it's along with the subject matter you hit upon, and the proper study put in before speaking upon it, but the 'sell' is much easier with the first three things incorporated. You do fantastic work, paisano.

Daidoji yuzan, a samurai in the edo period tells us a lot about the relationship of a samurai with his sword in his “code of the samurai” Some of what he wrote: a samurai must wear his sword while doing nearly anything anywhere to be ready for everything. some samurai he tells us even wear a wooden sword while taking a bath.

@ebtv7663

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't mean they liked them 😂😂😂

@tn1881

Жыл бұрын

Mongolian scholar Wang Yun (1228-1304)"Japanese soldiers are equipped with bows, katana, and armor.There was no spear. The cavalry are united.katana is long and extremely sharp. All the soldiers are brave and do not seem to be afraid of death. " Chinese Ming Dynasty Martial Artist Cheng Zongyou (1561-1636) "No other sword can match the Japanese sword. In Japanese swordsmanship, the change from side to side is strange and mysterious, and it is not predictable to ordinary people. Therefore, even if you use a long-handled weapon such as a spear, you will always lose to the Japanese sword. " Scottish botanist Robert Fortune(1812 - 1880) "The Daimios are constantly training their soldiers in all the arts of Japanese warfare. On this occasion, when passing near a Daimio's residence in the city, I heard the clattering of arms, as of men engaged in fencing ; and many times, during my stay in Yedo, I have heard the same sounds."

@blackknightjack3850

Жыл бұрын

Well, it was the Edo period and the sword was the most practical weapon for the time (putting aside its significance as a status symbol).

@martinportelance138

Жыл бұрын

It's safer to stay dirty.

Your rants are hilarious! I love how passionate you are about correcting misinformation! Excellent!

A little late but that last "yeah you can totally keep it" made me laugh thank you. A fine video and thanks for putting yourself through that

Wow. You know... You remind me of my physics teacher from highschool, when he was watching Interstellar (and commenting on the "science" parts of the movie).

Gee, these articles get more outlandish every year

"Losing all their momentum" while skewering the first 5 ranks of the infantry formation. xD

The writer: "oh, the fact that countries with large mounted divisions were the dominate powers? Nah, complete coincidence. The horses were a major disadvantage." Completely forget that swinging a sword from atop a horse gave additional power (physics, momentum, etc), forget that armies have morale, and seeing a large group of armored beasts with riders with weapons drawn would almost certainly have an effect on the rank and file.

@h0m3st4r

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that while shooting with a bow from horseback, you can quite literally run circles around the enemy and fill them with arrows at will.

Regarding the gladiators, there is a lot of evidence, from Pliny the Elder who refers to them as hordearii (barley eaters) to Galen who mentions their bean and barley diet that made them relatively flabby and notably gassy. Max Miller from Tasting History did a great video on what they may have eaten here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/emd_o7CQpKSudMY.html

This series is awesome, keep it up please!

Thanks for sharing an URL. I have seen that the author stopped publishing his articles 10 years ago and that is a good information, bad is he might changed the articles site :D

I saw a reinactment where a cavalry ran into a group of fully armored knights ... At a slow trot they plowed through

I only read titles, and I learned so much! Can't wait to tell my friends these new factoids.

Please keep doing these, we need to educate as much people as possible

@metatronyt

Жыл бұрын

I will, thanks!

These videos are what I use as an example of what schadenfreude means when people ask me. I love Met and his passion for his subject and appreciate the pain he puts himself through to educate

19:10 Love seeing how offended Metatron got when they called the romans gear/armour like lorica segmentata as ”Costumes” XD

@GholaTleilaxu

7 ай бұрын

If the World is a stage, then the people on it are actors. What do actors wear? Costumes. These people, who write these "articles" live in a world of their own, where insanity is just around the corner.

@TheRealRealMClovin

7 ай бұрын

@@GholaTleilaxu true statement. People today like those who write articles live in their own stage.

That article is hilarious! If cavalry and bows were so ineffective, then there would not be any recorded use as recently as WW1 and 2, ACTUALLY, there is plenty of records of cavalry charges (see movie Warhorse based on a true story), and an English officer got a confirmed longbow kill (see Mad Jack Churchill who carried a longbow, sword, and bagpipes into battle) in WW1 and 2 respectively.

I remember the video for this article years ago, and I am so grateful Metatron is making fun out. Oh god, I remember arguing with my ex about the stupidity of getting of your cavalry in the middle of the battle.

Thank you, that clip made my day! 🤣🤣🤣 It was a pleasure watching you dissecting these moro... ehm people that write such "interesting" articles. 👍

Do you think you could discuss about warrior moralities in feudal ages (particularly knights and samurai)? I feel that both extremes (romantic and pessimistic) are exaggerations.

@ub-4630

Жыл бұрын

I think Metatron covered it in a live stream with Shad (Shadiversity). At least I think it was a stream. You can still find the upload on Shad's channel.

@cadethumann8605

Жыл бұрын

@@ub-4630 Sounds like a needle in a haystack thing. Do you happen to know the exact livestream (even better, at what minute)?

@ub-4630

Жыл бұрын

@@cadethumann8605 I can try. When I have time. I'll edit it in, in this comment. Edit: If you can't wait. It was a video discussion about Chivalry and Bushido. Irrc, it's in the title.

@derniercaesar5319

Жыл бұрын

It really depends on the person

@cadethumann8605

Жыл бұрын

@derniercaesar5319 I agree. The thing is that it's hard for me to find real life records of altruistic knights and samurai. It's mostly about them being indifferent at best or cruel at worst in regards to the commoners' plights. The most I found with a noble knight is Balian of Ibelin for his defense of Jerusalem at behest of the people. As for samurai, it's Sakamoto Ryoma for striving to change the feudal class system that divided people (granted, he had ulterior motives as he suffered the division too but he did strive for peaceful means such as settling a long-lasting conflict between clans). I still wish to find out individuals and groups who did have compassion and care for the less fortunate.

Actually!! . Were well aware😂. Your accent when you get excited 😂😂Love it..

For the gladiator one. Im thinking their thought process was some gladiators had a strongman bod like gow thor to enable more feats of raw strength vs endurance and thought, "well this guy had a small layer of fat covering his muscle groups to give a bit of extra weight allowing them to lift more" and concluded "he must be 700 lbs of raw fat and not just a wall of 400 lbs of muscle underneath 10-20 lbs of chub."

I'd like to remind that dude who wrote this, that when the Winged Hussars arrived, there was nothing left standing. And their primary method of attack was... le GASP! Cavalry Charge!

@grahamhanks906

Жыл бұрын

winged Hussars in full charge is a sight to behold!

That their hair was very important for the vikings is true, Jarl Varg was a handsome friendly man with long blonde hair, then his hair got thin with even a bald spot. He got insane over being bullied for it, lost all his hair and became a cruel sadistic man. One punishment for his enemys was scrotum wipping.

This guy is a gem to humanity. Thanks metatron!!!!!

I actually just had a conversation with a friend, about how you can tell how consumed people are regarding mass media information. Or how they get their history from a show like Vikings. It's rough...

Sure, Chris' Thor was unkempt... in the specific scenes showing he had let himself go. His hair is masterfully maintained in every other scene across all the other films. His clothes are straight from the factory clean. His skin looks smooth and pristine. Huh?

5) Sure, the Norse were comparably cleanly but the ones going on a Viking? I don't remember any pictures of those longships having any saunas. And it was really more that continental Europe was in a somewhat bad place compared to the rest of the world. 4) They really need to pay more attention to the difference between a Tachi and a Katana and the changes that came with the end of the Sengoku Jidai and during the Edo Jidai. I somewhat agree that the mythos around the Katana was formed to compensate for becoming mostly clerks but the teachings of other weapons never disappeared. 3) I do believe them that Gladiators were a bit more chonky than a body builder or modern MMA fighter. But obese? Heck, no. 2) The tank analogy is actually not too bad. You know what happens to tanks when they charge into enemy held, unsuitable terrain defended by infantry? Yep. Does that make tanks or knights useless? No but it means you have to know when and how to use them. And used well heavy cavalry charges have definitely decided battles. About the momentum, it's probably good that all those infantrymen were obese and weighted as much as a barded war destrier. And again the psychological effect is similar to tanks. Sure, you can stand your ground and hope to place a shaped charge mine on it or something (a pistol is enough if you're a Hollywood actor though). Won't be a problem at all. 1) If you would collect Roman armour with a time machine and bring them back wouldn't they register as too "new" and not antiques? You made some strange mispronunciations this time like for "reviled" and "sniping". That's pretty rare for you.

@leonrussell9607

Жыл бұрын

The saunas were in the cabins below deck, its shocking how little you know

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

@@leonrussell9607 Together with all the soap and bath tubs? I mean if you look at the Numenoran ships in Rings of Power, everything is possible.

@markusgorelli5278

Жыл бұрын

5) That explains it. After spending grimy weeks on a ship, the first thing any good viking wants to do when they come back home is to scrub the muck off, detangle wind blown hair and dandy up. It actually makes perfect sense. I know I would. 😉

oh, I love your sarcasm :) lol it was a delight to watch.

The problem with going back in time, getting a helmet from a battle field and then coming back to sell it is that it wouldn't be an old helmet (unless u are turned into an skeleton) and, probably, the museum would accuse u of fraud

wonder if there is an article about the crusades in there, you don't talk about those very often so it might give an excuse

"You failed, so here we are." 😂 Perfect statement. Lol btw Love these videos. Thank You! I know it has to be painful after the first dozen or so facepalms while reading these articles.

About charging Calvary. My college friends and I decided to have a picnic at valley forge. We drove there. Parked in the lot. Found a flat place to spread out our blanket. Little did we know we set up where the horse guard was practicing that day. The horses came thundering at us while we were eating lunch. We scattered faster than a peasant army!

Megatron looks like a person that time travled from the middle ages and just lives in modern society...

If the gladiators that they dug up were out of shape they could have been retired...just saying Also, yeah just stand in front of a 500-800lbs creature running 45mph straight at you with a pointy stick, I'm sure you'll be fine. Physics don't mean anything

I can't listen to this at work, I'm going to get in trouble for laughing too much. That said, I just love these videos. LOVE.