Any video update planned for the parallel connect of two of these?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

I have a parallel kit on order and will get a video done sometime soon! I purchased this one as it has built-in cord storage which I thought would be really helpful: amzn.to/2TTm9Wr

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

My goal will be to show exactly what the load currents, output-voltage and output-power is for each generator to determine just how well they really balance.

@blossomluke

2 жыл бұрын

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Non synthetic for break-in, change the oil first 15 min and let cooldown 1hr for heat cycle. Pour more non synthetic run for couple hours,then go synthetic. My 2000watts predator generator was used 24/7 for 4 month in huracan Maria in PR, still running like a champ after 5 years. My first AutoZone 4300 generator ran for 8 years ,1 month 24/7 same break-in and sold to get the predator cause gas was getting expensive .also still running great. Oil is life!!

Great video I just got the gen 2350 and will follow your start up advice thanks

Going to run it like this! Just ordered another one 3600W this time. I had a 2300 1880 running and I started to use it out of the box without knowing the start up procedure just filled with oil. That generator lasted 3 years from June 20th 2021 to February 19th 2024 and only changed the oil once and Spark plug one time too. Yes I know I'm horrible 😅

@DansWay

2 ай бұрын

Oh man, sorry that your generator was tortured to death... Have fun with the larger 3600W!

Great review Dan. Good clean video, pertinent and useful information, my time here was well spent. Keep up the good work!

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the encouragement!

Thank you great review!

That's a good video!

You do a good Job

What's it cut down to for watts in eco mode?

I would love to see you compare the A iPower 2300 Yamaha powers generator from Costco to this one. I am between that one, the one here in your video and the Champion 2500. Thank you.

after running for awhile, how do you know when the gas is running low?

Mine runs 20 mins then shuts off, and when I pull the rope it acts like engine is locked up. Broke the rope once. New gas , high octane gas still don't run but 20 mins then shuts off

@DansWay

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that is really strange. When it cools down, does it start working again? What does the oil look like?

I can't seem to find the noise testing video :(

Hi, how is the quality and performance after 3 years? Any issues?

My dad is cool

Dan! It looks like you have something like a coffee filter in the gas funnel. What was that? Thank you!

@DansWay

10 ай бұрын

Haha, close! That is one of those paint filters. It was already in there and clean, so I just left it to filter any debris that could be in the gas tank.

Excellent videos...I just bought the WEN 2350 and I'm glad I did after watching your videos. Did you use ethanol free gas? Can't believe how quiet it is.

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

It is hard to find gas without it around here... Fuel stabilizer helps some. I just leave them empty after use and plan to add gas as necessary. My 3800W version I added propane which means I can use my BBQ tank vs. gas which is nice. That video will be out sometime soon I hope.

@zlaninomma6986

3 жыл бұрын

Got mine today. Changed the jet for high altitude. Ran it for 2 hr no load, ECO every 20 min.,changed oil, ran another 2 hr, with 600 w with ECO on and off every 20 min., changed oil, then fully tested. Runs at 123.5 V. It overloads exactly over 1900 watts. Voltage drops to 99V for split second , goes back to 118 steady. I ran 1950 watts., overload light blinks and after 15 sec, it cuts off. Hit reset, go to bellow 1900 watts and green light on. Works fine like it supposed to. Sound at 1700 watts from 25 feet right at 59 DB. With 600 watts , no ECO, 51 Db. With ECO 48 DB. As advertised, works great.

@RHEC1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay just go to your local airport they'll sell you 99 octane ethanol free gas.

@10thAveFreezeOut

2 жыл бұрын

@@RHEC1776 or give you sump drainings for free. They drain dumps daily and have to pay to dispose of perfectly good gas.

@mandytuning

Жыл бұрын

Gas station near boat areas normally have 88 non ethanol

Hey Dan, Nice Vids btw. My question, Do you use non-ethanol gas?

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Non ethanol is always better in these small engines if you can find it. Much less corrosive. Do you have access to it?

@johnw2123

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your response, Yes I do have access to non ethanol

Any particular reason you chose WEN over a similar size Champion or other brand?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the idea that I could order all the individual components from a company with an American presence. Their offices are right here, and the focus on generators. Harbor Freight as a company is an importer of thousands of products and has no real support other than swapping out units when you purchase an extended warrantee. This company reminds me of Sears where you could purchase the parts for their products years after the warrantee expired to fix it yourself. BTW, I do shop at HF, but something like this isn't a throwaway tool...

I know you shouldn't leave gas in the generator while it's in storage. Can you run the generator until it runs out of gas, or do you have to pour the gas out?

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

You have two options: You can dump it out, or add fuel stabilizer which helps to keep the gas from going bad. The ‘run till dry’ feature keeps the carburetor clean which is very useful as well. I also fire mine up every month or two and let it run for 15 or so just to keep things running and to know that it is ready to go.

Have you installed hour meter yet? Would be curious to see where you mounted it.

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I have one in my workbench I e been meaning to install. How about you? Did you find a good location?

@zlaninomma6986

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay yes, I installed it yesterday. I have installed it on top, in the middle, above that black cover where it clips in, between gas cap and spark plug cover. I tried to avoid top install, so it’s not exposed to the sun, but that was the only place I could think of without major modifications or cutting. I ran the wires thru the sleeve that was on the spark plug cable , then followed breather hose, then up, drilled very small hole on the top, next to the edge of the spark plug cover. Any extra I zip tied to the breather hose. Wire goes along the gas tank on air intake side, so no heat issue there. Looks good in that location and it does not interfere with the carry handle. Plus it’s orange color meter so it blends in perfectly. I just used a good double tape to mount it.

I've seen videos where they remove the spark plug and pour a cap full of oil in the cylinder before the initial start up, do you recommend doing this or is it unnecessary? Thanks in advance.

@DansWay

Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine they hurting anything, except for the burnt residue from it, and the potential for the startup to take a few more pulls or something. Goal there is to lubricate the cylinder walls. You could also just leave the switch off and pull the cord a few times really hard to splash oil up on the cylinder walls from the crank case.

do I have to do anything to the ground screw?

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t used it myself. You could connect it to earth ground, but I have never bothered. Anyone know if a particular reason to ground the generator?

When I pull on the pull start on my brand new 2350, the only resistance is the spring coil, and it doesn’t turn the engine over one bit. No cranking. The pull start is clearly not even connected to the engine. Have you ever heard of this out of the box?

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, no, never! They should handle that no problem. Have you pulled the side cover off to see if it is something obvious?

Do you have to run it out of gas to store when not using it?

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

No, you just put it into the right mode and it shuts off gas to the carburetor. It take a minute or two to finally die. Be sure you have removed your power cords before doing this.

Can I run power tools with this? Table saw, track saw. Shop vac?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

It will depend on the leak power. A large table saw will have a huge startup load so I would be surprised if it would work. Skill saws and smaller should do fine. The larger 3800 would work very well. I have a review video on that one as well. It just isn’t as fuel efficient.

@LoveUrLife365

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay Thank you very much Dan for the info. The reason I ask is that I am currently doing a camper van build in my parents garage. And was hoping I can use a generator on the road to power small tools and small table saw to do some finish work. The 3800 is too big and too heavy for a 110lb person to lug in and out of the van and I can't see myself spending the $ on Honda. Appreciate your contribution to the community and look forward to your other videos!

Great video. Looking to buy one. Any good suggestions on place to purchase?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

You can get these either from Amazon or from Wen Directly. Looks like the WEN 2350i is out of stock right now. You could consider the WEN 56225i. I assume it is similar, and currently available here: amzn.to/35lY3Gt

@TRD_Cueto

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay one last question...have you looked into the Westinghouse or Generac in this watt category? These two seem extremely similar in many ways. Almost as if one is making both units. 🧐🤷‍♂️ Thanks!

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRD_Cueto It wouldn't surprise me at all if they are made by the same company. OEM re-labeling of products is very common, so the minor differences are the only differentiator along with price... I have not used those brands myself...

I have a Wen 2000W and a friend has a Predator 2000W. Any idea if you can parallel the two different makes? My friend can’t see why not, but I’m not sure I want to try without checking around first.

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

That would be really interesting to know! My best _GUESS_ is that the first generator to power up becomes in essence the 'master' and the second unit started sees the waveform of the first and basically matches it, much like a micro-inverter does. This makes me wonder what keeps them from oscillating back and forth... If my hypothesis is true, then multiple units should work together, but step loads, and other balancing issues could come up. I still don't understand how two identical units communicate enough to be close to balanced. My best guess there is that they allow the voltage to droop down under load, so that two identical units will operate at similar loading if they are both looking at the output voltage. Anyone know better than my guesses?

@mikefrazier1760

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay just found this newer article (was looking last summer and not finding much). www.trustedhints.com/paralleling-generators/

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikefrazier1760 Great article. I just ordered the following parallel kit and will try it with both the WEN and Honda generators: amzn.to/2TTm9Wr

Dang, is it really that loud without eco on?? That's disappointing. Do you still recommend ethanol-free fuel for this type of engine?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

I would always recommend ethanol-free fuel for small engines like this where there is a chance the fuel will just sit for quite some time. The ethanol can separate and it tends to cause corrosion unlike standard fuels.

@lynneftw

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay Good to know. I use ethanol-free in my mower, tiller, etc. Still trying to decide between a Wen with fuel shutoff to the carburetor and easy oil fill, or a Champion dual fuel.

Dan! They added a fuel gauge to it!!

Did you notice they changed the oil capacity from 17.1 fl. oz? To 15 fl. oz in the manual?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

I hadn’t notice last myself. Do you know why?

@TheLittletroyboy

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed my manual says 15oz.

I thought about getting the magnetic dipstick but there were several reviews where the magnet came loose and destroyed the engine

@DansWay

11 ай бұрын

Wow, that would be horible! Not sure that would be a common issue based on the ratings.

@pinkiepie1656

8 ай бұрын

Mine hasn't come loose yet. My gen has been used many times over the past year. I've had the magnetic one since the first start:)

@edwinmedina4338

4 ай бұрын

3 year warranty

What actual oil did you use?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

I used a synthetic blend myself, same rating as the users guide suggested.

@mrspin3315

Жыл бұрын

You should not use synthetic oil for brake in, it won't break in!

Hi Dan, do you know why the Wen 2250w model weighs 10 more pounds? Is it sturdier or just heavier? That's a significant amount of weight?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, 10 lbs heavier than which other model?

@craigphillips6148

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay sorry was watching review of 2350w model. Nice review. The Wen 2250w model is also for sale but weighs 10 more pounds. I find this interesting.

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigphillips6148 wow, I had no idea that model was the much heavier. Not sure why...

@craigphillips6148

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay Back to my original question. I wonder if it is better with heavier components or just heavier?? No one seems to know. Wen cust service didn't really have a good answer. If you ever hear anything or know someone who has one hit me up for sure.

Most modern, small portable generators are grounded through their frame and built to conduct current from away from critical areas (like the gas tank) but the user manual clearly states this unit has to have an external ground to operate safely. Yes, it requires an external ground even when NOT hooked into another electrical system i.e. even when not wired into a building’s fuse box. I would have expected that to be in the product info listed on Amazon - but it isn’t. So what is required to ground this unit safely? The manual specifies a grounding wire of at least 12 AWG but does not give any other specifications except to refer one to local regulations. Well, the NEC (National Electrical Code) requires: a grounding rod - can be steel, coated in copper or zinc - that is a minimum of 8 ft long, sunk 8ft into the earth. That seemed a bit excessive to me for this tiny little generator. The consensus among internet sites pertaining to portable generators appears to be that a grounding rod should be a copper or zinc coated rod at least 4 feet long. Sites vary on whether that needs to be sunk four feet down... Your thouhjts

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, you have done some research! I think at a corporate level, and in a society where lawsuits are so common, these manufacturers are going to provide the most conservative 'suggestions' and leave the end-user responsible to follow or ignore the pages of warnings found in the manuals. Personally (and I really mean just myself), my understanding is that the power output from a generator is 'floating' with respect to ground, so as long as I don't create a path back to earth ground, I could 'theoretically' touch either output lead (hot or neutral) and not get shocked, because there is no return path back to the generator (antenna effects aside). If I earth-ground the chassis (which isn't? connected to the neutral connection), then it would protect the frame from becoming electrically hot, just like any three-wire connected appliance uses the ground connection to 'earth' ground the outside chassis which protects the user from a random internal fault which would connect 'hot' to the frame. All that said, I don't have any particular concern about being shocked by this if I don't use a ground connection every time I start it up, assuming it isn't parked in the rain, or otherwise mechanically damaged in some way. BTW: I assume no responsibility for how anyone who watches my channel or reads my comments and follows my example. All warnings and cautions in the manual should be respected and followed. This is just Doing Things Dan's Way, which isn't necessarily the right way...

@user-yn1vr8lv7s

3 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay yes I agree it wouldn't prevent me from purchasing one, Your tutorials are very helpful thanks again..Art

@cowlumbus

2 жыл бұрын

I saw your rant on Amazon too and giving it a terrible review all over the ground screw....good grief. How about we review the product as it operates and last as because the the ground screw issue is "on you" as it's clearly visible in the image. Now back to the reason why. Not that anyone actually grounds their generators (I've seen it maybe twice in my life and even then not done well enough to solve the issue) but having a ground is actually a good thing. Maybe the manufacture acknowledges more metal in the design but the fact existing is the was an internal short to metal you are going to wish you had that ground as a "no ground" generator isn't going to solve your issue. Good fix your review on Amazon. It's not valid and based on a rant that is "on you" for not studying the photos better.

But the manual doesn't include anything about breakin...

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

It really should have a whole section of recommendations right! Start out slow is the best suggestion...

got one 10/15/2020 when i was in Quartzsite Az it WAS GREAT TELL 9/24/2021 then it died, change oil every 20 to 25 hours cleaned filter every week and spark arrester, when i started trying to figure out what happened it had no compression and the air filter tube to carb was not in hole on back side so it was sucking dirt straight into engine so never buy their product again and sure not worth 450.00 at less the one year

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's a bummer for sure. Was that a manufacturing error, where the air intake wasn't properly secured to the carb, or did something break?

I bought it using your link, not sure if it showed up.

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony, Thanks for using the links to purchase your generator. Did you buy from Amazon or WEN directly?

@TDHobbies

2 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay the Amazon link. I should get it today and then do the break in. I like how you suggested that whole process. It will be used to power a small fan and motorcycle tire warmers , maybe other things here and there too. About 1,400 watts.

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDHobbies Awesome! Please report back your experience with it when you have time.

Mine is burning oil like a mother. Back it goes. Waiting and waiting for an email back from tech support.

@DansWay

Жыл бұрын

Wow, how strange. I wonder if the rings were not installed properly?? Please let us know what you find out.

@bburns36

Жыл бұрын

@@DansWay Looks like scored cylinder walls. I'm not sure if the rings were installed properly or not as I didn't tear down that far, but there was certainly some vertical scoring. Just popped the head off for a quick look-see.

@bburns36

Жыл бұрын

.. against my better judgement touched things with an appropriately sized ball hone and.. plug looks perfect, no more liquid oil on the exhaust spark arrestor screen, greatly diminshed smell. I might just hang onto it, i'm curious at this point. LOL

Have you done your comparison test yet?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

Scott, I am still editing the videos related to the larger 3800 generator. The larger one is less efficient when loaded at less then 1500w but obviously has almost double the power handling of the smaller 2350i. What other specific questions do you have?

@scottstockman5132

3 жыл бұрын

Dan Holt I just purchased one for power outages. Wanted to run my fridge and freezer last outage we had lost everything in my fridge and freezer. Also wanted to see how it stacked up against the Honda. Hoping I made a good purchase. How does it do in freezing weather ?

@DansWay

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottstockman5132 Well, living in San Diego, I don't have a lot of freezing conditions available to comment on that detail... For the sake of occasional backup power you can't go wrong with these lower cost options vs. a Honda. If I was a contractor, I would spend the extra for the Honda. Which of the generators did you get? I added a propane / natural-gas kit to my 3800W unit and am testing it now. There will be a video on this topic eventually.

@scottstockman5132

3 жыл бұрын

Dan Holt i purchased the 2350.

@mrspin3315

Жыл бұрын

I got a Champion 2000 watt duel fuel inverter generator and it is better than adding a propane conversion. It will still be under warranty. I have now run it for 38 hours and I love it. Can run for 14 hours without economy mode on propane.

I bought one but haven't tested it yet

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Let us know your thoughts on it 👍🏼

@Borads

2 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay o tested it ran bout 3 hour maby less went to overload mode then it stopped running talked to a mechanic at northern hydraulics to see what he thought the outcome was not good.

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

@@Borads oh wow, sorry your experience was so abnormal! Looks like its time for a return on that one...

we ran for week, burns oil, dies with load, noise, crap

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Man, what a bummer! Definitely try to get that returned/repaired/replaced. Shouldn't act like that at all.

This generator ran for 5 months then die they sent a coil pack got spark but will still not run even with starting fluid, called customer service, will they give me a number to a repair man that said 3 months or longer called wen , left a call back number 5 day in a roll, ps pull so much the cord is coming a part , first 5 months Run good 👍 then all hell ,talk to a repair shop in Vegas they said they would not touch this generator , guess I should have stuck with harbor freight the last one gone 5 years before my son burn it up

@DansWay

2 жыл бұрын

Ah man, sorry you had such a bad experience with your generator. Shouldn't be so hard to get service, but when the whole unit is only worth $400, new parts + labor could easily out-cost buying a new one...

@scottyyou4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@DansWay yeah I took the valve cover off and one valves not even moving , I talk to a friend that use to work on them ( he said going to be a stuck valve ,

@mikejenneman5490

Жыл бұрын

Had the same problem. Was running loud for a minute and the green light was flashing. Then I couldn't get it started. This lead to me cleaning caked on carbon off off the screen on the spark accelerator. After that, it started up.

People. Please do not buy Wen . I have one and still waiting for warranty parts. A part. Inside gets hot ,blows and shuts generator off after only 5 mins running. Wen does not returns unless the repair cost is more than half the total cost. Mine is at a service shop still waiting for a part. Eco mode is for power under 1000 Watts off eco is for more than 1000watts

Let me see if I understand this correctly... You are determining how loud it is at idle..?? Yeah, riiiight...!!! LOL!