I like how Luke looks like a linear interpolation between Linus and Gardiner on the preview.

@gardiner_bryant

2 жыл бұрын

This might be my favorite comment of all time. 🤣

@outofahat9363

2 жыл бұрын

oh shit i cant unsee it now lol

@HassanKhan0987

2 жыл бұрын

It's like a Dragonball fusion. It's Great

@RaggaDruida

2 жыл бұрын

this is way too accurate!

@Hellspooned2

2 жыл бұрын

Bwahahahaha! Thank you, haven't laughed so hard in ages.

Luke laughed because the pattern broke. That is: [Person] - [Brand] Wendel - Level1Techs Jason Evangelo - Linux for Everyone Gardiner Bryant -

@kajoma1782

2 жыл бұрын

Gardiner Bryant from Gardiner Bryant

@mskiptr

2 жыл бұрын

Null values are the worst!

@bradtoddler3765

2 жыл бұрын

He was formerly known The Linux Gamer lol.

@GeorgeValkov

2 жыл бұрын

I did watch a lot of reactions and Gardiner's were the best, so I posted a link to his video. I'm sure others mentioned him too. Mission successful!

@bradtoddler3765

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeValkov They did on the video. He's now getting recognized as Linux KZreadr or something.

To help with your confusion on the electronically signing a PDF, here is what is happening. Linus is trying to do it the "correct" way, to where it will actually be recognized by legal groups. In most situation, that will not matter, and either using a mouse or touchpad device like device to sign your name or just printing your name will probably work. When I provided support to a government agency, there were certain documents that needed to be electronically signed (speeded up the process as to not have to wait for physical copies to move from one person to another), and those would use signing certificates, those validated that the person's who's signature it was was actually the one signing it (used log in credentials to create the certificate). Edit/update: I've seen some discussion in the replies to this comment about the validity of signing a document electronically without using a certificate. When it comes down to what is accepted as signed, whoever is doing the signing will need to check with the people requiring the signed paperwork. I was in a position within the last year were I was attempting to get another job with a different contract company that provided support to a government agency. During that process, there was some paperwork that the company needed signed and they said it was fine to digitally sign or print it out and sign and send a scanned copy back. I used a signing certificate, and submitted that paperwork, only to have the company come back to me and tell me I had to resign the paperwork. I was told by their security officer that the way Gardner signs his documents was an acceptable way of signing. I'm not going to argue if what happened in this example is right or wrong, but it shows that there are places that have different standards as to what they consider to be digitally signed.

@JKoger501

2 жыл бұрын

I have to do it this way for military documents, with certificates from a smart card

@fuseteam

2 жыл бұрын

what was the program was using tho

@little_forest

2 жыл бұрын

When I had to do that for the contract with a publisher, they were using an online tool. So I did that in the browser and each party downloaded the signed document.

@CMDRSweeper

2 жыл бұрын

Yes this is a more secure way, but in everyday life, it is a stinking governmental form and the classic way I see people do it, even on Windows. Print it, fill in the form, and then rescan it and email it.

@fuseteam

2 жыл бұрын

@@CMDRSweeper fwiw, print fill in, rescan is __more__ secure than what luke did. what luke did will simply not be recognized.......likely i would need look at sedja to sure what the heck that does

I'm really enjoying this series from @Linus Tech Tips. It gives us insight on Linux from a perspective we as regular Linux users almost never get to see.

@perseusarkouda

2 жыл бұрын

The reaction you had watching yourself in their video was exactly the reaction I was expecting from you to have once I saw it. I loved it. haha

@valerioliberati6592

2 жыл бұрын

That was the purest reaction! Congrats!

@DarioRuellan

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad Linus switched to a KDE distro, it is really interesting to see how both desktops resolve the same problem in different ways, and how confusing a simple task can become just because the UI is not clear enough.

@nottingham82

2 жыл бұрын

I found you from your first reaction video to this series. Yours is the first video I look for now after the Ltt video drop. Also like your series on Steamdeck. The nice thing is not all of us tech gamer enthusiasts from the Ltt side use ad block and KZread premium pays extra for views (so I hear) so hopefully you will getting a KZread raise from all us Ltt fan boys discovering you.

@DemiImp

2 жыл бұрын

"Gardiner Bryant from... well, ~chuckle~, Gardiner Bryant" You were the only one whose name matches your KZread channel name. I also paused and replayed that a few times when I watched it because I was confused.

Just a random note. From an enterprise standpoint, Linus was technically right in his assumption to sign with a PKI cert because that is the industry standard. I use them at work all the time.

@RudyBleeker

2 жыл бұрын

You're a lucky person in that case. I wish I could convince more people that doodling in a PDF with some editor or worse, scribbling on a printout and then scanning it, doesn't prove anything and is not secure in any way, shape or form. I hope that getting a trusted personal certificate and the workflow to use it to sign documents will get much easier in the near future.

@EwanMarshall

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on jurisdiction, but sejda probably did do a cryptographic sign on their servers against a sejda private key.

@jyvben1520

2 жыл бұрын

and in some countries your identification card comes with an embedded personal certificate from the government.

@MahmoudElgassier

2 жыл бұрын

@@jyvben1520 you're spewing heresy and witchcraft my good sir! Such thing doesn't exist in America! And if it doesn't exist in America, EVERYONE IS WRONG! "identification card comes with an embedded personal certificate from the government..." pfffft, what is this? The over achievers' club?

@jyvben1520

2 жыл бұрын

@@MahmoudElgassier nope, just a decent society

You should be thankful Luke didn't refer to you as "The KZreadr formerly known as The Linux Gamer".

@mpldr_

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, why are you buried down here? Let me help you up a bit.

@IcoKirov

2 жыл бұрын

the guy who really looks like The Linux Gamer, maybe it's his brother or something

6:07 I totally get why Linus wouldn't click that hyperlink in the popup menu. The built in windows help index is absolutely terrible at explaining both what your problem is or how to resolve it. Him being a longstanding windows user I totally understand why his first reaction would be to google his problem rather than check the information provided by the popup. It's just one of those habits that's hard to break when switching operating systems.

@timonix2

2 жыл бұрын

it feels like 90% of those hyperlinks that pop up lead to a missing or broken webpage

@AlexMullerSA

2 жыл бұрын

@@timonix2 This. My brain subconsciously ignored any hyperlinks Microsoft provides. for anything.

@homemmakako3073

2 жыл бұрын

I never realised this until you said it. Most of the time I've used Windows the context links just lead me to a random page (usually the index) that has nothing to do with the topic, so I guess most people grew used to those being useless.

@MrCharlieBros

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but the issue was not even relevant for him, he just wanted to have his signature there, not a certified e-sign

@lordelliott42

2 жыл бұрын

@Veritas I just watched a video of a KDE developer reacting and he clicked that link and found that the help index page it opened was garbage to the average user and probably had not been updated in a long time.

The PDF part seems to have been confusing for quite a few people. What Luke did was essentially scribbling on a pdf. This is probably good enough for most usecases, but wouldn't be seen as valid in most business to business relationships. The standard for pdf signing is Adobe sign. As a user, you have an account through your company, and your certificate is added to the PDF. That means that it's no longer just some scribbles on a pdf, but it can be proven that you signed that document, on behalf of your company. That is what Linus tried doing. I'm actually really impressed by how easy that appeared to be. As long as you have a valid cert, it appeared to be a viable free alternative to Adobe Sign, and that is not a cheap product. Pretty cool.

@jgould30

2 жыл бұрын

DocuSign is by FAR more popular and standard imo.

@EwanMarshall

2 жыл бұрын

@@jgould30 depends on requirements of jurisdiction, but is it really a good idea to be using on-line services to handle this stuff? Ultimately that is the sticking point here. Behind the scenes, DocuSign, Sejda, Adobe Sign and Okular are all doing the same thing, it is just the PKI stuff and who owns and controls the keys that changes. US Military for example, has the certificates on their ID Smartcards that they use for this sort of thing, in enterprise environments, this is more how it should be setup.

@FlameSoulis

2 жыл бұрын

Multi-billion dollar security company employee here... people just use a cursive font on Word or Excel as their signatures. I wish I was kidding. I've always signed with a USB tablet, simply because if anyone sees one that is signed with the above method, then you know it wasn't from me. In the past with other companies, I have used DocuSign, but that was only in the tech field so far.

@simon5007

2 жыл бұрын

@@jgould30 you are right. We use Adobe sign at work, and when I wrote this I somehow forgot that those are different products. Remainder of content does apply though!

@raifthemad

2 жыл бұрын

You have to pay to sign stuff? Estonian government provides free ID card software to all our citizens, it has to since the card is mandatory. At least I can vote online, log into my bank, digitally sign anything I want for free and log in to government sites with it.

Linus stated the experience with his printer is truly awful in Windows. He uses Windows Vista drivers to get it to work in Windows 10 which he backed up on his server because they're hard to find. That's why he was so happy.

I think the issue with signing a document is that Linus is a company owner, and Luke is not, so while inserting a picture of your signature into the document is good enough for most cases of regular people, it won't fly in case of corporate contracts. Me as a company owner would also take the task as adding a digital signature which would be upheld in a court should the need arise, but I can see why most people would just do what Luke did.

@Ferkiwi

2 жыл бұрын

It's clear that Linus did not know what he was doing. If he were familiar with adding a digital signature like that (even in Windows), he would have probably already had a digital certificate or know how to get it without having to Google for LetsEncrypt, since that's not Linux specific. I'm sure this has nothing to do with him being a "company owner", it looks like he actually expected to not need any certificate and just sign it with a scribble like Luke did.

@MrZeldafanX

2 жыл бұрын

No I think it was a clarification issue. To most of the world, digitally signing a document means putting a fancy cursive signature in the sign box, even if that's not considered "legally binding" Digital certificates are common in certain industries or countries, but not in the LTT world at least.

@ender-gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ferkiwi No he did know exactly what he was looking for regarding a digital certificate to sign electronic documents. And if you knew anything about doing so for a company, you'd know for corporate folks certificates are generated and tied via your windows accounts as managed by your enterprise. Linux doesn't have a windows account to sign with thus why Linus had to google it since he needs to make a self signed certificate for Linux. In enterprise windows this is handled automatically and the certs have roots built in via Microsoft. I have no clue how you'd set this up on Linux but I'm sure its possible.

@EwanMarshall

2 жыл бұрын

No, it is just Okular trying to do it properly but requiring the administrator to have setup with proper keys an certificates.

@EwanMarshall

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrZeldafanX and things like Adobe Sign and the PDF specifications actually does both. Sejda probably signed it on their servers behind the scenes.

Haha that was such a sweet reaction to being shouted out by LTT.. well deserved bro! :)

I never had to digitally sign PDFs, but from what I searched, a digital signature means you're signing it using a private RSA key which the other party can verify using your public key. Digital signatures has nothing to do with signature images.

@Dobaspl

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and this signature is just as legally valid as the handwritten one. We call it a qualified signature.

@2nafish117

2 жыл бұрын

@Shea Martin its not just an image, it is based on generating cryptographic keys that the receiver can verify with the senders certificate. and if the pdf was tampered with the signature becomes invalid.

@luckybairagi7294

2 жыл бұрын

aren't you talking about Digital signatures from website? and Digitally sign pdf means having your signature on pdf, like if you download any official document from a website, for example your mark sheet, It is written on bottom or on top that by whom it is signed, like "Digitally Signed by blah blah person, on behalf of blah blah Organization"

@holocaust_2.0

2 жыл бұрын

Would a gpg key work?

@nikkiofthevalley

Жыл бұрын

@@luckybairagi7294 When you see that, it's _also_ signed with a key. That bit of text or even a handwritten signature is easily forged when in the digital realm, you have to back it up with a certificate for it to be legally valid.

I have to disagree - startup applications is NOT straightforward in GNOME and no users should ever really have to use tweaks for anything like that.

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. On kde you can literally from the desktop just start typying "autostart" (or even just "start") and krunner will let you open the appropriate section of the system settings.

@Sereiya

2 жыл бұрын

At least devs are working on integrating everything that's currently in tweaks into the sydstem settings. Yet it's still a necessity, I absolutely do not get why distros won't ship with tweaks preinstalled as so many basic functions are still only found there.

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sereiya afaik gnome doesn't want distros to include tweaks.

@Reboot_TV

2 жыл бұрын

Discard was a really bad choice for this anyway, because it has a build in option in the settings to make it start on login. Using the system tools for this wasn't even needed.

@oShinobu

2 жыл бұрын

GNOME users tell you that KDE is unintuitive while having to use third party apps or extensions for basic settings lol. Not hating on GNOME though, if it works for you then that's fine, that's the beauty of Linux.

It made me happy to see you and those guys get shouted out, what you guys do really makes a difference.

Gardiner Bryant is one of the coolest, most welcoming Linux users I've ever come across. Very nice guy. I really hope that his channel grows. He deserves the shoutout by LTT.

Destructive testing from users who are unfamiliar with your product is standard practice in most industries. It's not easy to do that on a large scale without financial resources that are unavailable to most FOSS devs. At the very least, though, devs could try getting their family, friends, or neighbors to give a quick test of whatever they're working on.

@shinyhappyrem8728

2 жыл бұрын

Which would also gradually turn said family, friends, or neighbors into more experienced users, making them less useful for future tests. :)

@PedanticTwit

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinyhappyrem8728 That it does.

@Klffsj

2 жыл бұрын

What I think is cool about this series is that while Linus and Luke are Linux noobs, they do know a lot about it-or OS's at least. So, while they still make all the mistakes of a noob, they can critically analyze their experience and provide constructive feedback to the Linux community in a way that noobs rarely can.

Hey man, I don't know what you're other content is like but you've gotten a sub out of me just for this series covering Luke and Linus. I am considering switching to Linux myself and have tried a few distros in the past but never put the effort into giving a true try. Hopefully I can learn more watching you.

@hlashflahflhsjfh

2 жыл бұрын

Made the switch 3 months back when my old unibody macbook seemed to brick itself and wouldn't renistall mac os. It's a pretty steep learning curve and if you have non supported hardware prepare to either buy new stuff or sink time into learning how to install community developed drivers. Totally worth it though, do not think that I'll be switching back anytime soon.

@SparJar

2 жыл бұрын

@@mao5170 I'm a sys admin so at least that stuff doesn't usually get to me.

@mstarOnYT

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your next tries. Hopefully they will be fun

@theronin2685

2 жыл бұрын

I can only agree with Jared! I have also come over to this channel because of these reaction videos, and after having watched a few other videos, I subscribed straight away! I have also played around with Linux Mint (Both MATE and Cinnamon), and OpenSUSE before, and I'm now thinking of doing a daily driver thing, with support from KZread channels like this one.

@benricok

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff! There is a few other channels also covering linux in different ways: Chris Titus Tech - Great balance between windows, Linux and MacOS, deep insight into sysadmin, linux servers, linux desktop and also very advanced windows features. LearnLinuxTV - lots of linux reviews and tutorials. DistroTube - lots of discussions about the community and linux itself. Lawrence Systems - also a big linux channel but focuses more on IT infrastructure and building out networks and servers for offices and companies.

It made me tear up with happiness seeing Gardiner be surprised that he got the shout out. You do amazing work, dude. Be proud. I've been watching you for years and your work definitely makes me feel welcome as a noob even in my 10th year.

I'm hearing that long standing issues are being fixed as a result of these videos which can only be a good thing for us all!

@Mysteoa

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to that? I'm somewhat interested on what is getting fixed.

@donday6753

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mysteoa one i heard about its now pop os gives a warning if you're about to delete your gui

@gragogflying-anvil3605

2 жыл бұрын

@@donday6753 The warning was how it used to be. Now it refuses to remove essential packages unless there is a file at /etc/break-my-system (or something). There's a change to apt where it's not removing essential packages while resolving stuff.

@Klffsj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mysteoa I know KDE added a warning message for their graphical package manager-similar to Pop!_OS's warning. I think it goes a step further to discourage the user from trying to do something dangerous...? I doubt there have been that many changes from this series so far, apart from very minor tweaks based on Linus' and Luke's criticisms. Still, they have the ears of the Linux community, including "popular" Linux KZreadrs and several developers. And, they do a great job highlighting flaws in Linux from the perspective of gamers, tech enthusiasts, and normal people not familiar with Linux. What makes their feedback so great is that although they're Linux noobs, they still know quite a bit about the OS (and other OS's), so they're able to critically analyze their experience-most Linux noobs can't do that!

I remember seeing a guy comment in r/pop_os saying that he was happy Linus damaged Pop's reputation because it would mean Pop won't become popular. Yeah, I agree with you, "The Linux Gamer".

@Elmekior

2 жыл бұрын

Which is funny because, I installed Pop_OS! The day after when I heard the issue was fixed.

Digitaly signed doc can be digitally verified, hence you have to sign it using your digital signature. The gimp trick would not work as nobody at receiving end would not be able to verify the signature.

@Steven-tw7iz

2 жыл бұрын

@@yokai64 Thats why most PDF software just do the SSL stuff for you in the background. Most people dont have to worry about it when the software manages it for you

@mercuriete

2 жыл бұрын

This same discussion is in the original vídeo. Here on Europe we have mandatory digital ID for every citizen at least on Spain. You don't generate a CA nor a certificate. The government enforces one for you. Then you do your taxes online or another procedure. I think this is a US issue about their own definition of freedom. Here on Spain you are enforced to identify youtself if you are required to do so by the police and you must to have your ID on your wallet all the time. If you decline to identify, the police can bring you to the police station to propper identification.

@chrisakaschulbus4903

2 жыл бұрын

it was discussed under the original video that linus and luke had different things in mind when they read "signing a pdf document"... honestly i thought more like linus and not just like scribbling something on the pdf

@AlucardNoir

2 жыл бұрын

@@mercuriete I'm also from Europe and I think your'e wrong. You're confusing a digital signature with your ID. While you have to use your ID for a lot of thing, it isn't the equivalent of a digital signature. I'm from Romania and if I want to digitally sign anything I need to get a digital signature. It's not my ID card, it's an actual digital signature that I can use to sign contracts and e-mail and which can be verified. To actually digitally sign a PDF contract or latter and have it be enforceable in a court of law I would actually need one of those and not just my ID card.

@AivarsLauzis

2 жыл бұрын

@@mercuriete similar in LV, but it’s mostly needed for communication with government. I have some kind of Id with me almost all the time, but mostly because I drive car, and buy alko from time to time both things needs Id or driving licence. About police it could happen in any country. If the police really want to identify and you are without Id, then you might be in trouble

18:45 This is an issue specific to Cinnamon with multiple displays using Nvidia proprietary drivers. It's been stuck in a "can't fix ; don't care" state since 2013, iirc the root of the issue lies within X11 so a fix is nigh-impossible without porting the DE to a different display server.

@Laihoistheman

10 ай бұрын

was coming here to say this, does wayland fix these issues? tempted to check.

For what it’s worth, I agree with them Gardiner. I’m new to your channel through these LTT challenge takes, and really enjoy your perspectives. Been enjoying other videos you make too, for example your recent steam deck one. Great work!

I like that they had a time limit, because none of those things should take more than 15 minutes. And who cares if you can do everything you need to on linux if it takes several hours to print or copy file.

I can very much relate to Linus' experience with elitists, unfortunately. They have been a real barrier to entry when I started to get into linux and I feel like the community will be better off once they all eventually move on to their next little pet projects. Linux is the only free and open source operating system that is anywhere close to windows and macos when it comes to normal, everyday tasks and work, and we cannot leave this important project to some hipsters who refuse to see how important it is for everyone.

@toast1797

2 жыл бұрын

Elitists are so freaking out of touch and often delusional. I've seen crap like "command line should be mainstream, not GUIs" or "rolling distros should not be updated"

@fuseteam

2 жыл бұрын

the thing is "the good eggs" know that and there's nothing they can do. the most we can do is ignore those people

@earthling_parth

2 жыл бұрын

As Fuseteam said, there's nothing good people in the community can do about them, so I don't know what else you guys keep complaining about? Just ignore them. People like them exists in every community and every gathering. I agree Linux has more than normal loud and vocal group of such people, but I don't think there's any other option other than to ignore them.

@fuseteam

2 жыл бұрын

@@earthling_parth i mean it fine to complain about them, but we should keep in mind that all we can really do is just......ignore them

@PhaythGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like ignoring them is important, but making it clear that they're not welcome by denouncing their raison d'être is a good thing. Not necessarily cancelling, moreso being as loud towards condescending, gatekeepibg users. Idk, maybe a bad take.

You know what would be interesting? Seeing Linux users trying to complete these tasks under the same constraints. I wonder if they would breeze through them or come into unknown difficulties like the two gentlemen did.

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

2 жыл бұрын

Linux users trying these tasks on windows. I'd be so lost lol

@DominicRotberg

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Don't worry Windows would just blue screen before half of the list gets completed

@muellerhans

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Cheat by using the subsystem hehe

@taznz1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DominicRotberg BSOD have been almost exclusively linked to hardware faults & bad drives since Windows 7, once Microsoft basically banned apps from running at anything other than user mode with Vista (the reason for all those UAC popups) and requiring all drivers to be digital signed, the days of any random application crashing the whole system ended. But it's only been a decade and bit, so I can see why you haven't caught on yet.

@ncpolley

2 жыл бұрын

@@DominicRotberg I know BSOD is a meme, but that's so not true.

"wait what?" 😂 awwww, so adorable. Very well deserved shout out!

I agree with Linus on much of this. I switched from windows to Linux about 9 years ago. I'm still a point and click Linux user. I only use my keyboard for typing an email or in a search box and in certain programs. Just reaching for my keyboard feels like a chore sometimes. I chose Linux for freedom and while i had to use the terminal much more in the past. i never acquired the taste for it. I definitely feel his pain when asking for a GUI feature to do a simple task; the response is always do it the Linux way, which is the keyboard centric way. Many developers love the Linux experience and are out of touch with the people who are searching for another option but want a windows or android experience on Linux. Linux is slowly morphing from a system built by and for programmers to also offer an experience that is more familiar to the overwhelming majority of the population. Linus work isn't perfect but he is exposing many things that i would like to see addressed. Some of which i have asked for myself.

@p_mouse8676

2 жыл бұрын

I am actually exactly the same. Although I am no stranger to programming. But that's all in electronics like microcontrollers. The terminal for me just doesn't fit in my workflow at all. But most of all I simply can't remember those freaking command line codes. Even from a poweruser, I find it just bizarre people can't have any root/admin rights in a file browser. There are plenty of ways to make that secure. That's just 100% stubbornness from the developers.

@restoringthetruth

2 жыл бұрын

@@p_mouse8676 I started programming in 1983. Basic programming was offered in my high school and i took to it like a fish to water. In my area none of the colleges or teachers knew anything about game programming and thats what i wanted to do. When i finally found a place that taught game programming it was 20 years later. One of my customers was into game programming. I tried to teach myself online but that wasn't an enjoyable experience with a full time job. To many questions with no one to answer them. I don't mind using the keyboard for certain things but the basic daily user experience for entertainment and home computing is point and click. That is the experience offered by everyone else. That is where some Linux distributions are attempting to compete and they will have to rise to that standard to increase their user base. I'm enjoying the progress and hopefully they will take the constructive criticism from Linus and make something positive out of it. I would love to see some of these developers come together rather than everyone scattered in different directions. Look at what Solus has achieved with just a few people. What if 1,000 developers who were doing their own thing came together with a community goal; what could they do? With everyone abandoning the Gnome ship; i hope some of them get on the same life boat.

@p_mouse8676

2 жыл бұрын

​@@restoringthetruth You nailed it again. Lack of focus and direction if one if the biggest issues. Rather have a couple of very good distros than thousands of meh distros. Direct second to that is what I call the "everyone on his own little island" mentality. It's completely the world upside down that the end user can't just file in a complaint or a bug at the main distro. Instead he's being guided through a thick black forest to find the developer of the little program or sometimes even a feature (Dolphin is a good example). Often being send back again with the message it's someone's else fault. Imagine people would expect to do that when their computer is broken and have to contact some developer of the mainboard somewhere in Taiwan. Or your car. It's bizarre to think about it.

@irwanclark3387

2 жыл бұрын

I switched in the past month. I found windows on my laptop be extremely delayed. Like just opening start would take second. My experience with linux (using ubuntu with gnome) has been much smoother for my tasks I need. I agree with what you say about being a point and click user. I hate using the terminal because to me it feels clunky/unintuitive. I should be able to change some simple settings with a GUI rather than in the terminal.

3:37 "I thought it's going to be as easy as just dragging it into this folder, to be honest." "That's not a folder, that's a program." While you're technically right, he is technically right to expect that, since in Windows you can drag a font into that program and expect it to install it. You can also open the font file with the default font-viewing program and click "Install" to install it for you. Also, Luke might have laughed because he had to say your name both for your name and for your channel's name.

@alexray4969

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's because the control panel under windows is technically a folder.

Window movement lag is because of the Nvidia drivers. They've had issues with that for years. I switched from Nvidia to amd cause for a long time there was ZERO support for nvidia hardware on linux. It's a known issue and nvidia doesn't care. I should note too that it does depend on what distro and DE you're running, but the ultimate culprit is the dirver.

@regnsloja

2 жыл бұрын

i've used mint/cinnamon and nvidia cards forever, and never experienced anything like that

@ilya_mzp

2 жыл бұрын

I have experienced that with Nvidia a year ago, but it somehow fixed itself. Still had some artifacts when resizing windows though. But I since switched to AMD gpu with wayland and everything works perfect, no tearing, no artifacts, no lag. I'm so happy that I made the decision to switch away from nvidia.

@DubWubz

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue! The issue was resolved for me by changing composition settings to OFF and NVIDIA force pipeline or whatever it's called is also OFF.

@liothesilverwing3016

2 жыл бұрын

This issue is a bit more pronounced on DE's other than GNOME at this point, because nVidia either flat-out won't work, or is exceptionally buggy, with Wayland. This means no hardware acceleration. As Milli points out in this threat, you can mitigate it a bit by turning on "force full composition pipeline", but this doesn't completely eliminate desktop lag. It did seem like this was a lot better with the 470 driver than the 495, but 470 had a number of other problems that make downgrading to it not a great idea.

@donkey7921

2 жыл бұрын

I've never had this issue on gnome or KDE.

"All of the PDFs I have have personal information in it" Aaaah yes, I remember how my downloads folder looked like right after I bought my house!

Luke put his "signature" on the PDF. Linus was trying to digitally sign the document with a SSL certificate. I'm pretty sure what Luke did was what the challenge was supposed to be since that it what most people need to do.

@mgetommy

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Max128ping

2 жыл бұрын

This is from other commenters, but Linus is a company owner, that wouldn't fly well In fact, Linus was trying to do it... The "correct" way.

@Fender178

2 жыл бұрын

According to Comments on Brodie Roberson's video on Part 3 that both what Linus and Luke were doing is both correct in terms of singing a PDF document digitally.

That KDE compression one really annoyed me. I have also been insulted for even suggesting that maybe it could use some changes. I was thinking something like .zip.inprogress or something to indicate that it is compressing still. I also think that the progress dialog should show the first time with some kind of option to minimize it and you would see it minimize to that tray area that way people know where to look. The way it is now works great but ONLY if you already know how it works.

@Rylika

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter what thing it is. It must show an obvious indicator of progress for even new users can't miss. There will be options to permanently hide it once you understand it

@Immudzen

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rylika Yes I agree with that. There must be some obvious indicator of progress. The problem that exists now is some users seem to think that 6 random characters and a changing file size qualifies as obvious and don't want any changes.

@FerdinandJosephFernandez

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed, I was thinking maybe add a circular progress bar on the zip file's icon and/or add the percentage value beside the filename (not putting the percent to the filename itself, just a label beside/below the filename in Dolphin).

@Klffsj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Immudzen From what I understand, KDE devs can sometimes be somewhat defensive about their work. But, I can't argue with the progress they're making right now. It's probably just that they've got other bigger things to work on, so small quality-of-life fixes can be hard to convince. For perspective, some compression formats look like six random characters and a couple of dots. If I'm new to Linux, or just not very familiar with compression formats, might've thought that those six random characters were some kind of fancy compression format. I agree that clearly indicating in the file name that it's in progress would be the best indicator. A GUI popup showing progress or a spinning circle icon are fancy and nice, but they may be a little out-of-scope for what's truly needed. Another option would be to hide the compressed file (by prepending it with "."), although there'd be no confirmation that it's begun compressing.

@sergiowolfpac

2 жыл бұрын

As someone that just completed a user interface design course, yea KDE absolutely failed on that interface to notify the user of what is actually happening lol

5:33 "Why do you need certificates? I don't really know how that's organised outside of EU. But here if you need to sign a contract or some other official document in a remote setting (from home basically, and not going Physically to an office). You must use so-called eSignature / Digital Signature. what is done using certificates and cryptography. Basically it works the same way as signed Emails. you get hash of the Content then you encrypt it with certain key (certificate). when it's Done other party can verify that you have signed the document and can be sure that the document will not be tampered with after signing. In our case certificates are issued by government and is embedded into national ID. oh and you must have Smart Card reader. So, I believe that program used by Linus is trying to eSign document. And as per my local government regulation the way Luke signed document is not valid. My question here would be what was intended in this challenge?

@mietek958

2 жыл бұрын

I think what Luke did was intended but after reading the name of the challenge I thought that you should do what Linus did, person who created the challenge fricked up

@Fredjikrang

2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty common in the US as well, though it depends on what industry you are in.

@fahadahaf

2 жыл бұрын

Don't quote me on this but I believe the program Luke used also does a digital signing, it just happens automatically(silently) and the certificate is issued from their server

I'm inclined to think that "digitally sign a document" means what Linus was trying to do, at least here in Europe. But the wording in this specific task was very ambiguous. On the "compress files" challenge, I must say both KDE and Gnome are doing a very bad job at giving feedback on what's goin on. Why don't just show a classic progress bar? Btw, the issues you got on broken text at the compression format dialog happened to me as well in the Budgie desktop, so it seems to be a general problem (in Nautilus?)

Hmm, while you can add a signiture wih GIMP, that itself is not digitally certified. You do want to add a fingerprint to a document that the signiture there is indeed yours.

@chrisakaschulbus4903

2 жыл бұрын

But what luke did is basically just as pointless

@AlucardNoir

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisakaschulbus4903 More so actually since he actually thinks what he did was correct.

@antikommunistischaktion

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisakaschulbus4903 Pretty sure that software he used does bind certs to you signature.

@adaliszk

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisakaschulbus4903 is that so? I'm not familiar with that software, but I assume it actually does generate a certificate alongside the signature.

@adaliszk

2 жыл бұрын

At least the normal flow of these is that the software you are using generates a certificate for you when you add a signature. Granted, some basic Linux tools just crappy and they do not do it for you, but they expect you to know how to create a certificate...

As someone just toying with moving to Linux (for years now). I have been waiting for noobs to Linux to chronicle this type of transition , it is super productive and informative. I actually repurposed a 2011 MBP by installing a distro and setting it up for my grand kids to play with! Stoked! It’s inspired me to take courses and learn about basic hacking. Love it guys keep up the good work!

15:40 KDE literally allows you to drag and drop onto the Desktop and it asks you if you want to move, copy or link.

Between the comments on the original video and this one, I'm enjoying the conversation around the digital signature challenge and the different ways it was interpreted.

@W1ldTangent

2 жыл бұрын

tbh I think that's a bit of a fail on James' part (he was the one that came up with the challenge goals and wrote them up from what I know), there was enough creative interpretation potential in that challenge to sail the Exxon Valdez through.

@PaulEmsley

2 жыл бұрын

@@W1ldTangent Yes, that's right. They both didn't know what it meant to digitally sign a document - and that's not something that they do on Windows or they would have their RSA key on a USB stick ready to go.

Wow.. I've been doing the ol' Gimp n' Switch in-line signing since I used to use Windows while riding on my dinosaur. You hit home hard Mr Linux Gamer...

Linus signature challenge might have felt familiar to him. Although you can sign like Luke did, what Linus was trying was to legitimately sign his pdf using a certificate very common on windows too if you need to submit an official document that tablet thing you talked about might not be enough,a personal certificate or a card reader for your ID (in Europe we have ID with chip) can sign documents.

Oh man, I’ve been watching this series from the get go, and I found you just recently, when you started covering the steam deck. I’ve been enjoying your videos immensely, and really love your perspective on this series in particular. It’s been my little ritual to watch the LTT vid, then wait for your react vid to come out to see what your thoughts are.

I've been watching you for years now and it was super sweet to see your reaction to the shout out. I know how much it means to you and I hope your channel continues to grow and benefit from LTTs Linux series!

Cinnamon uses Nemo. It is a fork of Nautilus. Given Nautilus and Nemo, I'd go Nemo all day. It has better functionality.

In defense to KDE: you can actually drag and drop and it will ask you if to move, copy or link. This both in different folders and when dragging to the desktop. Linus literally assumes the hardest road is the only possible one XD

@Klffsj

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you never know what cool user-friendly features an OS will have. (And I don't think either Windows or macOS does this.) Linus went with what he figured would work, not what he wished would work.

@firealliancenx

2 жыл бұрын

I think in both Windows and macOS, you only get a contextual menu when you right click drag and drop. So I get why it wouldn't be the first thing he tried.

The signing thing I think Linus was pointed in the right direction. Should've been looking at GPG certificates rather than SSL certificates, but he was looking at digitally signing the thing, not scribbling on it. 12:55 How is a random unexplained black dot any better than a progress bar in the notification area?

@neolight1010

2 жыл бұрын

It's not exactly a "random unexplained black dot". It is a progress indicator that starts empty and fills up as the task is being done. Also, it is pretty easy to spot at first, as it appears with a nice animation. It reminds of the download indicators of web browsers, which most people are familiar with. I think that the progress bar in the notification area is not as good, especially for people with *huge* screens like Linus.

@obake6290

2 жыл бұрын

@@neolight1010 Gardiner's demonstration looked like a black dot that he clicked on to get a progress bar. Maybe he just compressed something small and instant, idk. I very much doubt I would notice that indicator personally. But I'm probably not the best example either. Somewhere in the last year or so Firefox moved their download progress indicator. I still haven't found where they put it.

@devilmanscott

2 жыл бұрын

@@obake6290 I agree, this is where Windows does far better, everytime you copy a file, zip or whatever you get a big pop up in the middle of the screen telling what it's doing so even the most basic user knows something is going on.

@nootics

2 жыл бұрын

@@obake6290 if you had something large that wouldn't compress or transfer to a different directory fast, you would see a progress pie filling up as it progresses. Then you would know it and wouldn't find it weird when it's fast and only showing a black dot like in his case. That's how it is on my system at least

@syth-1

2 жыл бұрын

@@obake6290 id argue your far more likely to notice it if you have focus on that area of the screen (bascially the window), take your browser download for example, especially after you do something and you instinctively look there to see if its done. . . (eg. usually firefox download icon will turn blue to indicate the download has finished)

The best part of the video is Gardiner melting at the shout out. Haha. The best. Great reaction too.

Luke basically said, “Gardiner Bryant, from… Gardiner Bryant.” It was a play on the fact that the other names were “from [ Company]”. It was cute. Like, unlike the other guys you’re so big you don’t need a company after your name to get mentioned by LTT. When I saw that I was like, “Hey! I know that guy!”

So, I think you’re quite unaware of what’s actually involved in eSigning documents. The image matching your signature has nothing to do with it, eSigning requires that it be cryptographically signed and usually there’s a third-party involved in verifying the identity of the person signing, because without that additional process there’s no way of knowing if an image of someone’s signature is even valid. If you’re given a document intended for you to print and sign, then you might get away with doing what you’re doing in GIMP, but if you’re trying to obtain a loan or something where there’s more at stake, then it’s likely not going to fly. At least not with anyone that knows something about contract law. You’re often better off printing, wet signing in pen, scanning and sending your documents to someone via some secure method. Otherwise you need to use one of a number of eSign services that provide digitally signed documents that hold up in court.

I would just like to say I found your channel from your very first react video to this series. I have since started watching your videos and love your content (mostly non Linux user) and I'm so glad they gave you a shout out. Legit made my heart so happy

Linus trying to sign a PDF is a great example of knowing just enough to be dangerous. I kind of felt bad for him during that segment because I've definitely gone too deep down rabbit holes of trying to get stuff working, when there were much easier ways I didn't know about.

My stepdad owns an accounting company and I've been working there for about 4 years now. The challenges for the everyday use, including the signature challenge, was actually stuff I found useful and a lot of what I've seen/read about linux in general has made me consider trying to transition over to using linux in our office. The ability to just print without stupid settups or needing to go through the hp apps, is almost enough on it's own to consider transitioning since it's a pain everytime one of our printers dies on us or when we add new computers/employees to the office

Luke laughed when introducing you because he was following the "{person's name} from {channel name}" pattern of refering to people and in your case he just repeated your name twice "Gardiner Bryant *chuckles* from Gardiner Bryant".

I've been watching your impressions of the challenge as it has gone on, and very much enjoyed your perspective. I hope they pull you into WAN Show one day to talk about some stuff like they've brought on Wendell before. I'd also love if in a year they do this challenge again but instead of Luke and Linus, have it be Mac users so Jonathan Horst and Sarah Butt perhaps? And have the challenges given by people that daily drive Linux (you, Wendell, etc...) instead of just James.

@yearswriter

2 жыл бұрын

First part is definetly interesting, but I think challenges being set by "3-d party" just helps with them being somewhat random, otherwise it is too easy to ask for something yo know works well.

i swear that every linux users can easily say " i have been using linux for X amount of years and never seen that" and here i am for the 1st time using linux facing something that a pro linux user never saw. what are the odds

Yup, I saw that when I saw their video and I was like, yes, Gardiner deserves that shout out! :)

I believe Luke was using Nemo but could be wrong. Also, your reaction to them shouting you out was so wholesome. As soon as I saw you upload I wanted to watch to catch your reaction to that part. Stay awesome my guy!

@lesleymunro4964

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Mint uses Nemo as the file manager. At least in the Cinnamon DE flavour. I'm sure the other DE versions will be different. In fact, I just checked, the XFCE DE uses Thunar, and Mate uses Caja. Out of the 3 I do prefer Nemo. It just seems more fully featured to me compared to the others. But then they are designed to be lighter-weight on the system.

@CyberianFaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesleymunro4964 I am actually really glad you listed that as I had no clue what was default in anything but Gnome and KDE.

I think neither of you is doing the PDF challenge correctly, digitally signing the pdf means it can be verified. And it's not just about scrabbling your name onto it...

@satejkokate410

2 жыл бұрын

Yes its a concept of cryptography its not literal signing

Congrats on the shout-out, it's well-deserved! Just to be clear, I don't think Luke was laughing at you, but just at the broken pattern. He was saying of and your channel IS your name. I hope your subscription base grows based on that, you deserve it!

I found you out from their video and now I'm subbed. Even though I'm a linux admin, I still like to see things and sometimes learning stuff i didn't know about. Way to be a good sport, aaaaaaaaaaand subbed.

Notepad++ is something that SHOULD have a Linux version already. And it's even based on Scintilla (like Geany) for crying out loud!

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

2 жыл бұрын

The developer of Notepad++ just refused to port it to Linux, AFAIK, and running it with Wine is super easy, so, that's going to stay the way it is.

@davidbentham9586

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest i use kate, gedit all have advanced options. But so no reason not to have a native notepad++

@bitpony

2 жыл бұрын

there's notepadqq that's supposed to clone notepad++ in linux

@henrymach

2 жыл бұрын

@@bitpony It's supposed to. But it doesn't

Seriously though linux printing is sooo slick. Literally changed my company's sever back end for there OCR app so I could code in printing with lp command.

Came just to see your reaction to the shout out in the video, been loving your commentary on their linux challenge!

Straight up got a shout out from LTT, nice. Its pretty cool getting mentioned from a channel as big as LTT regardless of whether you enjoy or dont enjoy his content (I too got a quick mention once so i know that feel)

@29:55 he didn’t laugh at you, he laughed becaused he was mentioning the people and their channel but your Name and your KZread channel are the same: “Gardiner Bryant from… the Gardiner Bryant”

16:07 - making a link the "Drag&Drop" Way on KDE uses the right Mouse Button, btw. It will then bring up a little menu where you can choose "Copy, Move, Link" if you have the permission to do that on the folder where you dropping, that is. 18:15 - I think what happened here, to Linus was that kde on shutdown tries to create autostartups for all current open applications. Which includes discord, that resides at the systemtray.

@InventorZahran

2 жыл бұрын

KDE has some really weird default behaviors (including the ones you mentioned), but I'm sure there's some obscure way to change them...

@ShenLong991

2 жыл бұрын

@@amystery5238 yes it does, or better said it can. I use it for so long now that i dont really now the defaults. But you can choose between "Autostart the previous started apps from last session", "Autostart only set list of apps" or "Dont autostart any apps"

ive been thinking about getting into linux the past few days, and finding ur channel just makes me want to dual boot and try it now. thanks for making this a series, and congrats on the shoutout!

The reaction to the shout out is hilarious. Grats man and good video

For the cinnamon issue with Luke, I'm worried that he might be running Wayland, but I'm not sure. Neither of them mentioned if they are using Wayland or Xorg

@thecodedshader

2 жыл бұрын

Both Plasma and Cinnamon use xorg by default. So I don't think it could be a wayland issue. I've myself found cinnamon to lag a bit when a bunch of windows are opened, so I think it could be a Cinnamon thing bit I'm not sure.

@UwUSAH

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecodedshader indeed, tough to say, I've never had any issues with gnome, and cinnamon touts that it uses less memory so I don't know why it's lagging. Maybe they have some kind of desktop scheduler that lowers CPU usage when a game is running?

@Scrumplex

2 жыл бұрын

Cinnamon doesn't have Wayland support apparently.

@ThatLinuxDude

2 жыл бұрын

Cinnamon DOES NOT have a Wayland version whatsoever currently, so being on Wayland would literally be impossible.

@lumer2b

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t Wayland supposed to be newer and better than Xorg?

Thank you for backing me up on the modifying system files with dolphin thing. Said the exact same thing on reddit yesterday and had a bunch of people tell me that "hurr, hurr on linux you have to mess around with system files all the time". And these people are wrong. If they have to regularly modify system files, they're just doing linux wrong.

Love this video. An excellent return to form, lots of great points made and, yes, it was great to see you get a shout-out along with the other YT Linux gods. Take care dude

The Thing that surprised me most about the video was the fact that Luke doesn't have a NAS. I'm regularly surprised at the number of people (even those that come off as technically-minded) on the LMG crew that obviously have plenty of stuff to store, but only just store everything "in the cloud" or just locally...without a backup. Having a NAS is (digitally) lifechanging. I don't understand how people these days get by without one.

24:35 I thought one of the points of Linux was freedom. How is it then the Windows way to want the right to modify your own files? That's ridiculous.

I did the same think you said about installing a new font: I opened the font file and pressed install. DONE 👍 I enjoyed so much this video. Luke having better luck than Linus made me laugh hard 😂 Ps: HP sucks. In Windows, In Linux, In Android, In whatever.

That was an awesome shoutout for you to be honest! Glad they recognize the work and love you do for the Linux community! :-)

Your genuine reaction to them mentioning you. I was wondering how you'd feel when it happened, and yeah... that's smile.

As you well said in video i think most important issue is Windows mindset. Need more work specially for known Linux youtuber like you to clarify. IMO with respect

The zip thing is a part of my gripes with Linux. There's such an obsessive infatuation with making things minimal that some operations becomes difficult. Just like a dot displaying that an app is open is super tiny and not easy to spot, the lack of a dialogue to inform people if a file transfer or archiving is done or ongoing is too far in the other direction. Things are so minimal it has hit extreme minimalism levels.

@earthling_parth

2 жыл бұрын

I agree over simplification is a problem with Gnome. Maybe try using other desktop environments but not KDE Plasma as I find it way too much overwhelming.

@bleack8701

2 жыл бұрын

@@earthling_parth for now I'm considering trying out Mint since Luke had such a good time with it and Cinnamon looks like what I'm searching for

@earthling_parth

2 жыл бұрын

@@bleack8701 I've used it few times on my friend's machine. I really liked it, hope you do too 👍

29:35 i came here for this moment xD "you did good young padawan, now it's time to teach" except, you are already teaching, and the jedi that gives you a shout out is probably the padawan .... but you know what i mean!

I laughed too hard when you stopped at Gardiner Bryant from Gardiner Bryant

12:01 What are you talking about? Are you telling me that Linus would have noticed that dot in your file manager, but that notification in KDE is too hidden?

@etopowertwon

2 жыл бұрын

I really hate such progress bars. Firefox has progress bar of similar sizes for downloads. I don't have big monitor, but my eyesight is not 20/20 either, so without straying my eyes I can't even tell if file finished downloading or not.

@devilmanscott

2 жыл бұрын

@@etopowertwon This is where Windows does it better, it gives you a big pop up in the middle of screen showing you it's doing something, like copying or compressing a file.

@BOYSSSSS

2 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer KDE's notifications. Once you know they're there you can't miss it and if you want bigger window open up the notifications status icon. Windows big popup windows is actually annoying, it's too big and I don't know where to put it. With 4K monitors today it's better but it used to be pretty bad.

@devilmanscott

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOYSSSSS I agree in part, on my distros I prefer more minimalist pop-ups, but for the average user having something obvious removes any confusion.

the "digital signature" thing got me really confused... maybe just personal thing of using eIDAS for years and thinking of that as superior version as those SSL signature PDF things i have encountered have enabled modifications to underlaying pdf

Your comment about telemetry at the end is exactly the reason I always turn telemetry on in every install I do, I know that someone somewhere is going to see my error reports and do something about the issues I have. I also know that if I’m having an issue so will someone else so I’m happy to help the devs see these issues and fix them for everyone else who also runs Linux

The issue of not being able to attain root privileges in the file browser, consider that Linux is a multiuser system, and ordinary users do not normally have access to sudo or the root account. That is the job of the sysadm, that is, like Gardiner says, how the system is designed... it's not designed to be a single user computer like Windows. I am quite certain the Dolphin developers are well aware of this fact, the logic being, if you have a need to have write access system files or directories, you also have the skills to use the terminal.

Please lookup digitally sign a pdf before you comment, I interpreted like Linus, which is a /digital/ signature on the PDF

@TheCalifornianeskimo

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would have interpreted like Linus too. The way Luke and GB did it wouldn’t count as a digital signature for any kind of legal doc, which is 99% of why you’d sign a PDF. Of course, I only know this because I use a CAC card to do it, which has a cert that says that it’s me when using my pin to sign a document.

@M1America

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is 99 percent of the time I've been asked to digitally sign a pdf, the paint brush in gimp was enough to scribble down a name. If you need to sign a pdf properly, you are probably a lawyer.

@JEffinger

2 жыл бұрын

@@M1America in the military too.

@rotflol6666

2 жыл бұрын

@@M1America Nope, it is about valid verifiable signatures digitally on documents like PDFs, IANAL!!

@Jack-The-Gamer-

2 жыл бұрын

@UCnGGQzst-U5hYzWXcxbiBdw you are full of shit, my friend. Speaking from experience.

*Hardcore Linux Nerds:* You n00b, you shouldn't be copying files into the System Folder. There are better ways of doing it. *Also Hardcore Linux Nerds:* [Guide] Here's how you solve your X problem - Copy these files into the System Folder. Seriously, if you're saying no one should do X, then stop writing all these guides telling newbies to do X - basic logic, not rocket science.

..your facial expression, when you realised you were featured on LTT.. 😂 That was priceless.

I have to say, Gardiner, your video was the FIRST to appear in my recommendations just as I finished the first part of the challenge, you are a great guy

I use Notepad++ on my Windows 10 work laptop, I use it mainly because it's extremely lightweight and there are no slowdowns on my computer (unlike vsCode)

@UwUSAH

2 жыл бұрын

It's kinda funny that neither of them know that notepad++ was developed by people who designed it to function like gedit. Like they love that program but don't know it's because of Linux

@tylerbarr2740

2 жыл бұрын

Notepadqq is the Linux alternative to notepad++

@waaaaaaah5135

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerbarr2740 Tried it on my Manjaro machine, unfortunately there's a bug that causes the cursor to not show up, so I have not been using it :(

@nootics

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerbarr2740 notepadqq kinda feels heavy and not well integrated, i don't know why. It's not bad, but gedit with much less features or even vscode feel better on linux

@devilmanscott

2 жыл бұрын

Not to be harsh, but how weak is your laptop that something a lot better like VsCode is not an option, I started with notepad++, but the lack of features and customisations was a deal breaker and I could just use vim instead, which I do when I remote into servers.

I agree with your thoughts of KDE in this video. It's honestly a big shame that neither of them used GNOME as it's by far the most polished desktop environment

@ThatLinuxDude

2 жыл бұрын

They'd most likely have plenty to complain about with GNOME if they use the proper GNOME, like the lack of a system tray, lack of titlebar support under Wayland, lack of maximise and minimise buttons, the fact you need Tweaks to do stuff as basic as adding startup programs, and so on.

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

2 жыл бұрын

Hard disagree. Gnome is weird af and only really intuitive for the only people who are taken into consideration when making decisions for gnome: gnome developers.

@jaimiepotts7638

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV GNOME is definitely different but it is still the most polished desktop environment

@jaimiepotts7638

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatLinuxDude what do you mean by lack of titlebar support under wayland?

@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaimiepotts7638 Until you realise it's so "polished", that they've polished away basic functionality. How do you change the firewalld zone for your network on kde? Click on the network applet > right click your network > general configuration and there you can change your firewall zone. How do you do it on gnome? Gnome doesn't support that. You either do it in the cli, or install additional software. And the best part of that is: Gnome used to support that, but having that option was "too complicated" and users don't need it anyways (i.e. I, the developer don't use it and any other usecase is invalid). Having to install additional software is apparently "less complicated". That's really gnome in a nutshell. Making everything more complicated for the sake of "simplification".

The gimp tip is good, Krita didn't have such a smooth pdf workflow, thank you. Haha you'll always be the linux gamer!

Congrats on shout out, also not everyone had same reaction about their challenge and experience that they had, but I'm happy that not everyone is toxic in Linux community, this will help us who wants Linux to grow and become better and better, I remember 15 years ago, When I was trying to use Linux as desktop OS, it was pain, but today it's already getting so good, and people like you, and Linus media group, would help Linux a lot, because it'll help developers to see what to improve, and as many people will start using Linux, those companies who didn't even care to make software, or drivers, or anything else, will have to do it, either they do it, or they lose customer. I also use of MacOS, which is absolutely different topic, but there are very similar problems with mac as well, when user base is smaller than Windows has, companies will not bother to waste their time on it, and some of the problems they had, with elgato and other stuff, most of the times it also exists on mac. I think today Linux has biggest community ever had, but software needs more testing, most of the issues that I had, or they had for this challenge, and I think everyone else also has, is because of distributions are not tested enough, or sometimes it's just dependency problem, it's not ok, when system wipes entire user interface, or removes something useful, just because another program had some old/new library as dependency and package manager decided to remove old software that used old dependency including dependencies... how is that even an option? again... How? and I read comments regarding this challenge, that Linus was stupid? 99% of users, who is not expert in linux, or is not developer, will have exact same problem and they will probably never use Linux after realizing that it is possible to wipe entire system, and work they have on it, can be gone ( I know there was nothing gone other than gnome, but again, normal user will never know that it was easy fix, but it's easy fix for us, not for someone who never used terminal ), and that's all, Every time new Linux distribution appears, everyone goes same way, so many projects are based on BSD and Linux, that has much friendly approach and is targeted to non developers as well, you mentioned FreeBSD... OrbisOS is based on FreeBSD as I remember, I never seen my PlayStation 5 to require me to open terminal and install something to play on it, or watch something, lot's of projects use Linux and BSD kernels to build OS based on it, and Linux distribution developers have lots of resources and existing stuff, that they can use to make at least one distribution that is as easy as MacOS or Windows or even better, plus Linux community is so huge compared to Sony for example, and I get it, many people will argue that it's easier to make console OS than Desktop one, but why? I don't think so, it probably has more codecs and stuff supported including HDR and 3D audio etc, and some people again will argue about hardware as well, that they had to work on only one specific hardware, but no, this is not good argument either, Microsoft does all that as single company for every manufacturer and every device to work at least 10 times better than Linux distributions does, and if you open any big linux project on github, and look at amount of contributors, Microsoft doesn't even have 1% of software engineers compared to those projects, and those projects on their own, are doing good job, but then there are distribution developers, who just copy paste each others work and then just duplicate tasks, and they think changing icons and other visual assets make their distributions different, or better, but I don't think Linux needs more distributions with different logos on it, we need proper desktop distribution that can handle tasks as easy, or even better, than Windows, or MacOS does, because we already have distributions that are made for cloud, or other stuff, but we don't have enough good desktop distro, why? because distro developers are lazy, they take someone else's work(software), just make installer, new logos and they call it their own OS, when they did nothing useful other than just making dependency lists, logos and installers... actually not, even installer is not theirs, most of the time it's also separate project, separate people wasting their own time, and most of the time people don't even know who did that project, while distribution developer, who did almost nothing, gets all the appreciation.

@Gardiner Bryant I started watching your channel about a month before the Linux challenge and had the same reaction as you when they shouted you out. "What this dude I just started following is being promoted by the biggest tech channel!" Good for you bro!

I really love your character progression since Part 1 of linus' linux challenge hahahhahaa

You definitely deserve the shout-out. I've been recommended your reaction videos by the yt algorithm, ever since I watched the first daily driver challenge part and your perspective has been great. I've been watching your LTT DDC reactions ever since.

I'm glad they did shout you out man. You're my go to for a balanced Linux perspective on these videos. You're fair and informative and funny.

I'm firmly convinced Luke chuckled at ending that list with a real, substantial impact channel that's actually named the same as its creator. It's a breath of fresh air 😊

Another fine piece of commentary on the Linux challenge, imho. Watching Linus' face when he printed the document reminded me of my early days in Linux, when accomplishing even the simplest of tasks filled me childlike glee. Then I got to know a bit more, and I kinda felt I was getting it, and then I broke my system (and that happened a lot). I am hoping that the result of this challenge will be that more folks out there decide at least to give Linux a try. As Jared said below, if this challenge serves no other purpose than to funnel some people to this channel, and those like it, then that will be a great result.

I've not used Linux for many years, and don't really intend to anytime soon, but am enjoying Linus' adventures. However, you additional commentary adds a huge amount of context and texture, and it is very much appreciated. Very enjoyable, thanks.

On KDE/Dolphin, if you drag files and right click as you drag them, you get a context menu that only shows "Copy File" and "Create a link".