The fact Sebastion was half a second faster in the first sector.
@kisadam7590
Жыл бұрын
Well from next year we will Have sebastioff Vettel
@ArtMoze
Жыл бұрын
@@kisadam7590 That was funny yet very sad
@AZBCDEE
Жыл бұрын
Illegal engine does wonders. No wonder he bottled it in the race and got destroyed by Leclerc despite being golden boy
@Jaco4e
Жыл бұрын
SeFASTian*
@weepjng
Жыл бұрын
@@AZBCDEE he beat leclerc this race + wouldve beaten him in quali without Bottas crash
@M4NA5 Жыл бұрын
I believe with the TD that came into effect at 2019 USGP (restrictions on fuel flow), Ferrari’s gains with their Power Unit subsided for rest of the season. Not to mention they had to start all over again and we saw the impact of that on SF1000 during 2020 season.
@SB3_01
Жыл бұрын
Technical Directives suck. They pretty much kill the sport if someone finds a loophole and prevents creativity to prosper. By the way, I don't think 2019 Ferrari engine was nerfed by technical directive. It was more like they got caught cheating and the details became a secret.
@1312_PV
Жыл бұрын
@@SB3_01 Well, I'm all for preventing some kinds of creativity. For instance, Toyota finding a way to jam more air than allowed in tha car in the 90s in WRC is not a real innovation while in the road you can just have a bigger hole instead of concealed holes. Restricting teams from overusing fuel is the same. In a ruleless car you would not have to fake the fuel consumption readings. There was not a proper innovation, just rule bending.
@robertvega1551
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They turned down the engine after Suzuka. This video is so wrong.
@dhruvsinghpal8737
Жыл бұрын
@@SB3_01 that loophole invention thing applies to Mercedes DAS system also.
@gavcom4060
3 ай бұрын
@@dhruvsinghpal8737not exactly. Difference is Mercedes developed DAS with the FIA in contact about its legality. The FIA themselves allowed for it in 2020, but banned it in 2021. On the other hand, Ferrari developed their fuel flow trick without the FIA knowing
@omgguyying8143 Жыл бұрын
Man the Ferrari 2019 was fast
@boludo244
Жыл бұрын
The engine as good but the car...
@moeez1211
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that engine illegal? Or did they change it by then?
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@Ed Swann xd, it started beiing legal at begining of 2020 when it was crap
@rudiss260
Жыл бұрын
Easy to do with a illegal engine
@tavaray4071
Жыл бұрын
@@moeez1211 yes it was illegal that why they were so slow in 2020 and 2021 mostly in straights
@amit6844 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this engine in sf-75 I luv this engine sound, especially the turbo whine at higher rpm.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
Жыл бұрын
this engine is in the F1-75, they just need to remove the fuel flow limiter
@MarcinHopa8
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, where is it gone? 😒 2022 engines sound so dull, even RedBull doesn’t have this anti lag sound 😒😒
@agostinodauria5455 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the 2004 Williams-Bmw speed on this straight
@ahmedrahim2500
Жыл бұрын
or even better an F2004 on slicks
@Spyker8921
Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedrahim2500 Slicks actually reduce top speed
@assaultfnr
Жыл бұрын
@@Spyker8921 why should they
@asrafulemon2004
Жыл бұрын
@@Spyker8921 why ??
@AlbiM1
Жыл бұрын
@@assaultfnr Because they would cause more friction compared to the grooved.
@alealphyxis Жыл бұрын
I will miss Seb but his 54 wins will live forever (That 1 win was Canada 2019)
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
xd, canda 2019
@JoelMiller_-gh8oo
Жыл бұрын
Traumado xd
@sandalphoncpu
Жыл бұрын
over 65 wins if you include the reliability issues
@luuduonghy659
Жыл бұрын
It is 54.5 actually He could had that win in Canada 2019 had he did not get 5s penalty
@randomturkyt
Жыл бұрын
@@luuduonghy659 did u not read the full thing?? originally he has 53 wins but he said 54 wins cuz canada 2019
@slipstream01 Жыл бұрын
Your clips are the best.
@KristianLyubenovYT Жыл бұрын
i can see the red bull coming close to this speed, it already was a rocket in a straight in monza and spa
@juzh1238
Жыл бұрын
350 max
@leartvrajolli6101
Жыл бұрын
It’s believed they need to have downforce to stall the diffuser, since Mexico is low downforce track it will be probably difficult to reach those top speeds
@reid1420
Жыл бұрын
I thought Mexico was high downforce, since the air is less dense?
@theracingban
Жыл бұрын
Monza and spa are low altitude and the redbull is a low drag car that's why it's fastest there but in Mexico the drag penalty is alot lower so redbull might not be as dominant in terms of straight line speed because this track helps the draggier cars like Ferrari and Merc
@fonsvinkunas5618
Жыл бұрын
@@reid1420 big wings can't produce that much downforce with this air pressure. So it's Monaco spec aero and monza levels of grip
@richardkeler9170 Жыл бұрын
The crazy part is that they are actually running high downforce too because of the low resistance
@sohampadalkar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah what if they put monza spec wing just for the 1st sector
@nurazrolzaa
Жыл бұрын
@@sohampadalkar cars most probably will had spinning at T1...
@Alksonix Жыл бұрын
Ferrari PU in this time was a monster. Bring back this engine 😎
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
illegal
@egelechad
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 have you ever heard grey zones?
@Crihs95
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 Wasn't really illegal, it was a loophole, that's why they had to introduce a TD (new rule) to stop it from being legal
@gamingnoah9807
Жыл бұрын
It was very clearly illegal, the fia swept the entire thing under the rug and said ferrari had "come to an agreement" and after that their engine got alot worse
@Fractured_Unity
Жыл бұрын
@@egelechad It wasn’t a loophole. It was just so clever that the FIA couldn’t bust them on it, so they had to come to an agreement to get them to stop
@paolopiocampagnuolo4017 Жыл бұрын
The jazz music is really nice
@Alessio-fl9mb Жыл бұрын
with an high downforce set up too
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
but it was low down force anyway
@thomasconway95
Жыл бұрын
All cars run high downforce in Mexico because the usable downforce is less than Monza thanks to the altitude
@emontrailers Жыл бұрын
13000 RPM,unusual for hybrid
@darylyatestransportblogs
Жыл бұрын
They can rev higher than that but fuel flow limits mean its pointless max power is at 10500rpm so they are geared to keep above that.
@Jon_09 Жыл бұрын
Kimi did a 366kmh when he is chasing Bottas on the same track way back 2018!
@KimGee241
Жыл бұрын
With Drs, I think he's talking about the sheer engine power of sf90. Just imagine this engine doing 360 without any tow. Just pure power
@TheDashACorner Жыл бұрын
We are already @351.7 again. First year of new rules. Pretty sure they get closer to 360+ over the next years if they don't change the rules heavily against that.
@dzjad Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and watch them whenever I see one (even an old one!). So much information so quick. btw, "controversial" is how it is spelled :)
@MasterGr1mmy Жыл бұрын
I personally think they should allow the teams to have that amount of fuel flow
@yayyo3226 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, now that's what I call full beans
@deakksyy Жыл бұрын
People are saying this engine is illegal, it was a loophole like ferrari and redbull with planks this year or brawn with blown diffuser. They had TD to minimise or stop, else they would have told them to remove or revamp the whole thing like merc wing this year.
@jeffvedana5764 Жыл бұрын
i have a feeling that car of verstappen this 2023 can hit 360KPH in mexico
@meganizonda Жыл бұрын
Imagine that 2019 Ferrari engine inside one of the lighter, smaller 2015-16 cars... 360 km/h would be easily outdone
@bhekahlatshwayo751 Жыл бұрын
People hype the W11 like really this car was the fastest car we've ever seen on straights 🤷🏽♂️
@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire
2 ай бұрын
No one ever said it was the fastest on straights 🤦♂️ its the fastest around the circuit in fast and slow corners, learn to pay attention
@bhekahlatshwayo751
Ай бұрын
@@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire voetsek
@ALPHABYTE64 Жыл бұрын
my guess is that max speed in 2022 on this track will be 345-350 kph
@emilekaram6094
Жыл бұрын
Why?? Isn't the RB18 engine stronger than SF90??
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@@emilekaram6094 maybe a bit, but different areo, weight and back in 2019 special engine modes for qualification were allowed
@emilekaram6094
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 mmmm
@htnklouie
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 and the e10 fuel
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@@htnklouie yea
@sohammankar1154 Жыл бұрын
I think because of the Venturi tunnels we'll see less drag and with tow 350+ should be achievable
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
340-345 max
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
Considering those Venturi tunnels are basically spec or close to it, the downforce gain from them won't be enough to counteract the insane weight of the current chassis. Not to mention the fact that teams have been trying to claw back downforce any way they can because of that development, so drag will likely be higher than you're suggesting.
@ruiferreira1647
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 redbull concept has high downforce with low drag, i recken the red bull could hit 350
@mariusfranzen4375
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 idk if you watched FP1 today, but they reached over 340 without tow and not in qualifying trim, so I think we will see over 350 in quali with tow
@bogdan12275
Жыл бұрын
Already ~346-350 in FP3. They will hit 360(maybe more) in the race, depending on how good the tow is
@MrPedro1303 Жыл бұрын
I believe rbr could reach very close to 360 and Ferrari 350+, PUs still over to 1000 hp on qualy and this year lower drag can be possible
@madhavnatarajan222 Жыл бұрын
probably this time with max and rb with their inexplicably fast car, we can have these speeds once more
@brunofqs Жыл бұрын
This is 100 m/s. Insane.
@dusandjurovich2852 Жыл бұрын
Kimi Raikkonen México qualy 2018
@maximilianschroder5206 Жыл бұрын
Also: We won't see that less overtakes anymore You can choose between a little bit faster and no overtakes (lame races) and a bit slower and a good race
@xflynskywlkr27 Жыл бұрын
Love this engine. Made toto and horner cry before every race about how fast ferrari were on the straights 😄
@mursie
Жыл бұрын
Yeah because it was illegal
@xflynskywlkr27
Жыл бұрын
@@mursie The fia never said it was illegal though. Nothing was ever proven. At best you can say it they were doing "something" Where that falls on the legality scale is impossible to say without knowing what that something is.
@keonxd8918
3 ай бұрын
@@xflynskywlkr27 their 2020 season proof that they were punish in some way.
@hadithelegend3358 Жыл бұрын
GO VETTEL
@restlesssheep2453 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just wanted to know when you write "controvertial" do you mean to write "controversial" ?
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
Yes. sorry that's a typo lol
@wombat4191
Жыл бұрын
And I assume "of cause" means "of course".
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
@@wombat4191 Damn, I must've been drunk while making this video
@TheJokerit19 Жыл бұрын
I'm unsure how 2022-spec engines would necessarily be weaker unless this reference concerns E10 biofuel that debuted last season, as nothing changed on the engine front for this season.
@Reaz399
Жыл бұрын
They are a decent amount weaker. E10 has cost them a lot of HP+ the fact that specific engine modes for quali are banned now.
@alijahan
Жыл бұрын
They have lost some power with the new fuel, but not that much for it to have difference of 30km/h on the topend. The main reason is just the heavier and bigger cars which are draggier.
@ihateeveryoneofyou
Жыл бұрын
@@Reaz399 Engine modes are still allowed for quali are they not? pretty sure it's just mid race changes that were banned
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
@@ihateeveryoneofyou My understanding is that, once qualifying begins, you can't mess with the engine modes from then on. You can't go thermonuclear in quali and then turn it down to a sane level for the race - you must run the same engine map in the race as in qualifying.
@Reaz399
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Exactly.
@fockewulf9518 Жыл бұрын
is okay bra
@edy1434 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this engine on the W11 jezz that would be the best car ever
@prajwalkpbhat8998 Жыл бұрын
People saying that the v10 engines would match the top speed, I don't think so. They are naturally aspirated engines, which aren't as powerful as turbo engines at a high altitude track like mexico. So I think this record might stay for a few years or so.
@wombat4191
Жыл бұрын
In fact, turbo was originally invented specifically to solve the problem of low air density reducing engine power. It was a big problem in aviation.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
Turbocharged 3.0L engines it is, then.
@pangeranrio0112 Жыл бұрын
0:40 The sound of W12 in Brazil
@markokuzmanovic1565 Жыл бұрын
Its true. Top speed 349-350 kph for Max in Q3
@cashmasters99 Жыл бұрын
Surely the regs will adjust to make the cats a bit faster eventually
@joaopedrogod Жыл бұрын
Hum… in Baku 2023 one of Haas reached 357 km/h with DRS + tow. Curious what speed 2023 cars reach in Mexico and Monza
@vamositalia4600 Жыл бұрын
Perez in 2016 did 370 in the race
@keremv Жыл бұрын
ahaha i see you removed the (probably) after the race weekend
@alexm.s4000 Жыл бұрын
People seem to forget the illegal 2019 car as one of lewis' opponents. Every arguement against him starts with "best car, no competition etc" yet i feel like ferrari of 2022 did not challenge Max any more than the 2019 car challenged lewis. Both rocketships, both fell off towards the end like... well ferrari and both were good on one lap pace but always lacking race pace. The ferrari formula hasnt actually changed lol. 2018 was similar, except ferrari actually had race pace before they fell off once again
@willsharp43927 ай бұрын
362 in the race this year
@anuratohazra Жыл бұрын
Kimi 2018 366 kph
@ludzkipan1650 Жыл бұрын
is this what ppl want? bigger and slower cars?
@2ndcaptain9x8
Жыл бұрын
No , at least I don’t, I want the 2018-2021 f1 cars back not the current 2022 ones.
@semof1621 Жыл бұрын
where do you found this video?
@qrda3315
Жыл бұрын
F1tv pro.
@PPpaladin Жыл бұрын
pretty sure we will eventually, because progress
@yhelloh Жыл бұрын
Albon did 355+ during the race.
@jaypee2323 Жыл бұрын
The engine at peak isn’t weaker from 2024 onwards. Plus cars are meant to become lighter as well with new chassis changes. At peak, the new engines have 200+ more BHP than the current engines. This will not be the last time, I promise.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
Жыл бұрын
Not correct still The 2026 engines will be worse than the current ones due to the reduced fuel flow limit and more spec parts
@chubs2312 Жыл бұрын
The alpine will offer something interesting
@carfan3649 Жыл бұрын
With less drag due to ground effect cars should reach 355 kph easily
@gabeitch70097 ай бұрын
additional weight doesn´t affect top speed and the engine power is the same if not higher. 2022/2023 cars reach higher speeds due to ground effect being much less draggy
@xicu3705 Жыл бұрын
"Unless of cause another controversal engine comes up" Red Bull: HELLO
@________35107 ай бұрын
Look like the 2023 engine and aero is good enough to reach 360km/h
@videshanamali5335 Жыл бұрын
If Ferrari had this "Legal engine" in 2018 during the 2nd half, Seb could have won the championship :')
@Laennie5
Жыл бұрын
True
@TheR4ndomG4m3r Жыл бұрын
Imagine if he had a tow he probably would’ve reached 370
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
nah
@koen09871
Жыл бұрын
Air density is already very low so a tow won't be that effective
@purebloodsunite7489
Жыл бұрын
@@koen09871 tow is effective at top speed, doesn't matter much what that top speed is
@davidbabu1073
Жыл бұрын
kimi did 366
@davidbabu1073
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/aait1caRndq-XdI.html
@Knight_StalkeR_x007 Жыл бұрын
I Think the RB's Honda PU will be pretty close to 360kmph.
@pablo3558 Жыл бұрын
should not it be the other way around? 2022 car wings are simpler and ground effect has less impact on drag, 2022 engines are not weaker as well, leclerc and verstappen reached 342 km/h at monza in qualifying
@kijja
Жыл бұрын
2022 engines do produce less power than their 2021 counterparts. Due to the introduction of E10 fuel this year. Estimates seem to be from 5-10% reduction power this year. This is made up by the reduction is drag in this set of aero rules so you won’t notice it too much in top speed but it is noticeable is accel.
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
2022 engines are weaker because of E10 and the ICE-mode ban. And of cause much weaker than that 2019 Ferrari engine.
@pablo3558
Жыл бұрын
@@yelistener 352 km/h speed trap magnussen at qualifying, not that far
@yt_pieluca2675 Жыл бұрын
"Unless of cause another controvertial engine comes up" RedBull: Hold my beer
@Rilex037
Жыл бұрын
what kind of engine is that?
@shaikabdulrizwan6318 Жыл бұрын
2023 engine with GP2 engines
@kamnale1317 Жыл бұрын
well the current cars are supposed to be less "draggy" as the downforce is generated on the floor not the wings, well see
@valkeitos Жыл бұрын
The 2022 cars are really quick in a straight linez especially the RB's so i think we'll see them hitting 360km/h
@darwinrasyadan14
Жыл бұрын
maybe, but not as fast as the SF90
@ThEgamingGINJ
Жыл бұрын
Maybe 350’s I doubt 360
@amonero1
Жыл бұрын
They’ve been faster in practice already
@Kessoku Жыл бұрын
nah, Max will casually hit 369 kph. which is nice
@best___09995 ай бұрын
Imagine he had slipstream would have been 370km/h🔥
@LukaOJ01 Жыл бұрын
and some say that Merc had 1 second per lap faster car
@creatinegains Жыл бұрын
Also I wouldn't call the engine controversial, as it was clearly cheating. They reached an agreement with the FIA and then their engines were suddenly incapable of competing.
@prajwalkpbhat8998
Жыл бұрын
We don't know whether it was illegal or not as the fia didn't release any findings to the public. Even if they were exceeding the fuel flow limit, the fia and the teams were unable to prove it. It's basically as illegal as redbull's cost cap thing and merc's excess oil burning in 2017.
@Slimmeyy
Жыл бұрын
@@prajwalkpbhat8998 So... just flat-out illlegal.
@BKDltd Жыл бұрын
Would’ve got pole had it not been for Bottas’ crash. He was flying around here
@mc16_horizon2 ай бұрын
Imagine that 2019 illegal Ferrari engine in the back of the W11. 😳
@watchnocatch171 Жыл бұрын
Yes they are heavier and less powerful, but downforce doesn't really matter at all, does it? Top speed is about drag. I mean they haven't been faster on straights troughout this season compared to earlier, but isn't this pretty much the first long straight without a high speed corner before it? So if the cars are indeed less draggy than before maybe they could reach this speed? We'll have to see, I guess.
@ArjunUK55555
Жыл бұрын
Downforce and drag are proportional to each other. More Downforce means more drag, but not the other way around.
@watchnocatch171
Жыл бұрын
@@ArjunUK55555 Depends on the aerodynamic efficiency, doesn't it? For example if Formula 1 cars would use fans to suck them on the ground they would most likely have more downforce and lower drag at the same time compared to now or even last year.
@SirSirJay Жыл бұрын
Red Bull: 400KMH SHALL BE ACHIEVED
@lymido Жыл бұрын
wait, the 2022 engines are weaker than the previous ones? why?
@BARRYR97 Жыл бұрын
Probably
@Lackooo84 Жыл бұрын
Now watch 2023 redbull.... :D
@ankerautomotive2210 Жыл бұрын
And people say Mercedes had no competition when red rocketships like this existed
@Sticktothemodels
Жыл бұрын
Pure revisionism. Vettel challenged throughout the season in 2017/18 & this illegal engine in 2019 was no joke for most of the season
@ryanjonathanmartin3933
Жыл бұрын
It's why I believe when people say they don't like Mercedes, they actually mean "I hate Lewis Hamilton". I think if Lewis didn't go to Mercedes, Mercedes wouldn't be as hated.
@alex_rzn4407 ай бұрын
In Mexico 2023 , Haas reached 351 without an illegal engine 😎
@markokuzmanovic1565 Жыл бұрын
Will see RB18 🤔
@BMW_M3_GTR57 Жыл бұрын
wait.. why did i come to the comments? oh yeah, the downshifting at t1 sounds like a scar from fortnite lol
@metalchap10 ай бұрын
maan to think sergio perez reached 370 KPH here with a tow ☠️
@racingtoni Жыл бұрын
its controversial, not controvertial
@GoatedAtNFS Жыл бұрын
all this “grey zone” PU and they still lost constructors lol
@golazzogoal6469 Жыл бұрын
Why not?
@fernandonando8461 Жыл бұрын
If they introduce nitro in this car it would happen.....
@EareelOfficial Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we won’t. I don’t mind though
@CalculatorGuides Жыл бұрын
but dosent weight have no impact on top speed?, i guess maybe acceleration is a factor
@marto9635 Жыл бұрын
the fia is killing de f1
@2ndcaptain9x8
Жыл бұрын
true
@SamuelC558 Жыл бұрын
2019 Ferrari engine moment be like
@alessandroqueiroz8973 Жыл бұрын
12900 RPM lol!!!
@Akmal_Kusuma Жыл бұрын
imagine they use v10 engine in mexico
@Spyker8921
Жыл бұрын
N/A engines are crap in altitude
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
yea, it would be slower
@stylo3103 Жыл бұрын
Carlos sainz just did 365kmh in the practise and qualifying will be even quick so guess not 🤷♂️
@lukkas3611 Жыл бұрын
2022 cars are faster in a straight line, yes they have weaker engine but a lot less drag
@lovebato8873 Жыл бұрын
just inject oil in the intercooler
@chrissdevano Жыл бұрын
*controversial
@asrafulemon2004 Жыл бұрын
#OnThisDay Vettel got his 4th championship at Indian GP
@Shadowed007 Жыл бұрын
They will get there by 2025
@crnkin2 Жыл бұрын
And only burns 40 mpg. Of oil.
@pedrofernando8336 Жыл бұрын
Why F1 cars achieve a bigger top speed at mexico?
@AlexMartin-xh3lc
2 күн бұрын
Por La Altura, El Aire Nos Es Tan Pesado y Sí No Tuvieran Mucha Carga Aerodinámica Llegarían Sin Problemas Hasta Los 400 KM/H.
@Adrian-th2pu Жыл бұрын
Monza Qualy: 2019 349,7 km/h (perez), 2022 347,8 (latifi), not that much difference, 2022 have less drag due wheelcovers and ground effect
Пікірлер: 331
The fact Sebastion was half a second faster in the first sector.
@kisadam7590
Жыл бұрын
Well from next year we will Have sebastioff Vettel
@ArtMoze
Жыл бұрын
@@kisadam7590 That was funny yet very sad
@AZBCDEE
Жыл бұрын
Illegal engine does wonders. No wonder he bottled it in the race and got destroyed by Leclerc despite being golden boy
@Jaco4e
Жыл бұрын
SeFASTian*
@weepjng
Жыл бұрын
@@AZBCDEE he beat leclerc this race + wouldve beaten him in quali without Bottas crash
I believe with the TD that came into effect at 2019 USGP (restrictions on fuel flow), Ferrari’s gains with their Power Unit subsided for rest of the season. Not to mention they had to start all over again and we saw the impact of that on SF1000 during 2020 season.
@SB3_01
Жыл бұрын
Technical Directives suck. They pretty much kill the sport if someone finds a loophole and prevents creativity to prosper. By the way, I don't think 2019 Ferrari engine was nerfed by technical directive. It was more like they got caught cheating and the details became a secret.
@1312_PV
Жыл бұрын
@@SB3_01 Well, I'm all for preventing some kinds of creativity. For instance, Toyota finding a way to jam more air than allowed in tha car in the 90s in WRC is not a real innovation while in the road you can just have a bigger hole instead of concealed holes. Restricting teams from overusing fuel is the same. In a ruleless car you would not have to fake the fuel consumption readings. There was not a proper innovation, just rule bending.
@robertvega1551
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They turned down the engine after Suzuka. This video is so wrong.
@dhruvsinghpal8737
Жыл бұрын
@@SB3_01 that loophole invention thing applies to Mercedes DAS system also.
@gavcom4060
3 ай бұрын
@@dhruvsinghpal8737not exactly. Difference is Mercedes developed DAS with the FIA in contact about its legality. The FIA themselves allowed for it in 2020, but banned it in 2021. On the other hand, Ferrari developed their fuel flow trick without the FIA knowing
Man the Ferrari 2019 was fast
@boludo244
Жыл бұрын
The engine as good but the car...
@moeez1211
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that engine illegal? Or did they change it by then?
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@Ed Swann xd, it started beiing legal at begining of 2020 when it was crap
@rudiss260
Жыл бұрын
Easy to do with a illegal engine
@tavaray4071
Жыл бұрын
@@moeez1211 yes it was illegal that why they were so slow in 2020 and 2021 mostly in straights
Imagine this engine in sf-75 I luv this engine sound, especially the turbo whine at higher rpm.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
Жыл бұрын
this engine is in the F1-75, they just need to remove the fuel flow limiter
@MarcinHopa8
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, where is it gone? 😒 2022 engines sound so dull, even RedBull doesn’t have this anti lag sound 😒😒
I'd love to see the 2004 Williams-Bmw speed on this straight
@ahmedrahim2500
Жыл бұрын
or even better an F2004 on slicks
@Spyker8921
Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedrahim2500 Slicks actually reduce top speed
@assaultfnr
Жыл бұрын
@@Spyker8921 why should they
@asrafulemon2004
Жыл бұрын
@@Spyker8921 why ??
@AlbiM1
Жыл бұрын
@@assaultfnr Because they would cause more friction compared to the grooved.
I will miss Seb but his 54 wins will live forever (That 1 win was Canada 2019)
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
xd, canda 2019
@JoelMiller_-gh8oo
Жыл бұрын
Traumado xd
@sandalphoncpu
Жыл бұрын
over 65 wins if you include the reliability issues
@luuduonghy659
Жыл бұрын
It is 54.5 actually He could had that win in Canada 2019 had he did not get 5s penalty
@randomturkyt
Жыл бұрын
@@luuduonghy659 did u not read the full thing?? originally he has 53 wins but he said 54 wins cuz canada 2019
Your clips are the best.
i can see the red bull coming close to this speed, it already was a rocket in a straight in monza and spa
@juzh1238
Жыл бұрын
350 max
@leartvrajolli6101
Жыл бұрын
It’s believed they need to have downforce to stall the diffuser, since Mexico is low downforce track it will be probably difficult to reach those top speeds
@reid1420
Жыл бұрын
I thought Mexico was high downforce, since the air is less dense?
@theracingban
Жыл бұрын
Monza and spa are low altitude and the redbull is a low drag car that's why it's fastest there but in Mexico the drag penalty is alot lower so redbull might not be as dominant in terms of straight line speed because this track helps the draggier cars like Ferrari and Merc
@fonsvinkunas5618
Жыл бұрын
@@reid1420 big wings can't produce that much downforce with this air pressure. So it's Monaco spec aero and monza levels of grip
The crazy part is that they are actually running high downforce too because of the low resistance
@sohampadalkar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah what if they put monza spec wing just for the 1st sector
@nurazrolzaa
Жыл бұрын
@@sohampadalkar cars most probably will had spinning at T1...
Ferrari PU in this time was a monster. Bring back this engine 😎
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
illegal
@egelechad
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 have you ever heard grey zones?
@Crihs95
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 Wasn't really illegal, it was a loophole, that's why they had to introduce a TD (new rule) to stop it from being legal
@gamingnoah9807
Жыл бұрын
It was very clearly illegal, the fia swept the entire thing under the rug and said ferrari had "come to an agreement" and after that their engine got alot worse
@Fractured_Unity
Жыл бұрын
@@egelechad It wasn’t a loophole. It was just so clever that the FIA couldn’t bust them on it, so they had to come to an agreement to get them to stop
The jazz music is really nice
with an high downforce set up too
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
but it was low down force anyway
@thomasconway95
Жыл бұрын
All cars run high downforce in Mexico because the usable downforce is less than Monza thanks to the altitude
13000 RPM,unusual for hybrid
@darylyatestransportblogs
Жыл бұрын
They can rev higher than that but fuel flow limits mean its pointless max power is at 10500rpm so they are geared to keep above that.
Kimi did a 366kmh when he is chasing Bottas on the same track way back 2018!
@KimGee241
Жыл бұрын
With Drs, I think he's talking about the sheer engine power of sf90. Just imagine this engine doing 360 without any tow. Just pure power
We are already @351.7 again. First year of new rules. Pretty sure they get closer to 360+ over the next years if they don't change the rules heavily against that.
I love your videos and watch them whenever I see one (even an old one!). So much information so quick. btw, "controversial" is how it is spelled :)
I personally think they should allow the teams to have that amount of fuel flow
Jesus, now that's what I call full beans
People are saying this engine is illegal, it was a loophole like ferrari and redbull with planks this year or brawn with blown diffuser. They had TD to minimise or stop, else they would have told them to remove or revamp the whole thing like merc wing this year.
i have a feeling that car of verstappen this 2023 can hit 360KPH in mexico
Imagine that 2019 Ferrari engine inside one of the lighter, smaller 2015-16 cars... 360 km/h would be easily outdone
People hype the W11 like really this car was the fastest car we've ever seen on straights 🤷🏽♂️
@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire
2 ай бұрын
No one ever said it was the fastest on straights 🤦♂️ its the fastest around the circuit in fast and slow corners, learn to pay attention
@bhekahlatshwayo751
Ай бұрын
@@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire voetsek
my guess is that max speed in 2022 on this track will be 345-350 kph
@emilekaram6094
Жыл бұрын
Why?? Isn't the RB18 engine stronger than SF90??
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@@emilekaram6094 maybe a bit, but different areo, weight and back in 2019 special engine modes for qualification were allowed
@emilekaram6094
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 mmmm
@htnklouie
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 and the e10 fuel
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
@@htnklouie yea
I think because of the Venturi tunnels we'll see less drag and with tow 350+ should be achievable
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
340-345 max
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
Considering those Venturi tunnels are basically spec or close to it, the downforce gain from them won't be enough to counteract the insane weight of the current chassis. Not to mention the fact that teams have been trying to claw back downforce any way they can because of that development, so drag will likely be higher than you're suggesting.
@ruiferreira1647
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 redbull concept has high downforce with low drag, i recken the red bull could hit 350
@mariusfranzen4375
Жыл бұрын
@@ALPHABYTE64 idk if you watched FP1 today, but they reached over 340 without tow and not in qualifying trim, so I think we will see over 350 in quali with tow
@bogdan12275
Жыл бұрын
Already ~346-350 in FP3. They will hit 360(maybe more) in the race, depending on how good the tow is
I believe rbr could reach very close to 360 and Ferrari 350+, PUs still over to 1000 hp on qualy and this year lower drag can be possible
probably this time with max and rb with their inexplicably fast car, we can have these speeds once more
This is 100 m/s. Insane.
Kimi Raikkonen México qualy 2018
Also: We won't see that less overtakes anymore You can choose between a little bit faster and no overtakes (lame races) and a bit slower and a good race
Love this engine. Made toto and horner cry before every race about how fast ferrari were on the straights 😄
@mursie
Жыл бұрын
Yeah because it was illegal
@xflynskywlkr27
Жыл бұрын
@@mursie The fia never said it was illegal though. Nothing was ever proven. At best you can say it they were doing "something" Where that falls on the legality scale is impossible to say without knowing what that something is.
@keonxd8918
3 ай бұрын
@@xflynskywlkr27 their 2020 season proof that they were punish in some way.
GO VETTEL
Hey, just wanted to know when you write "controvertial" do you mean to write "controversial" ?
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
Yes. sorry that's a typo lol
@wombat4191
Жыл бұрын
And I assume "of cause" means "of course".
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
@@wombat4191 Damn, I must've been drunk while making this video
I'm unsure how 2022-spec engines would necessarily be weaker unless this reference concerns E10 biofuel that debuted last season, as nothing changed on the engine front for this season.
@Reaz399
Жыл бұрын
They are a decent amount weaker. E10 has cost them a lot of HP+ the fact that specific engine modes for quali are banned now.
@alijahan
Жыл бұрын
They have lost some power with the new fuel, but not that much for it to have difference of 30km/h on the topend. The main reason is just the heavier and bigger cars which are draggier.
@ihateeveryoneofyou
Жыл бұрын
@@Reaz399 Engine modes are still allowed for quali are they not? pretty sure it's just mid race changes that were banned
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
@@ihateeveryoneofyou My understanding is that, once qualifying begins, you can't mess with the engine modes from then on. You can't go thermonuclear in quali and then turn it down to a sane level for the race - you must run the same engine map in the race as in qualifying.
@Reaz399
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Exactly.
is okay bra
Imagine this engine on the W11 jezz that would be the best car ever
People saying that the v10 engines would match the top speed, I don't think so. They are naturally aspirated engines, which aren't as powerful as turbo engines at a high altitude track like mexico. So I think this record might stay for a few years or so.
@wombat4191
Жыл бұрын
In fact, turbo was originally invented specifically to solve the problem of low air density reducing engine power. It was a big problem in aviation.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Жыл бұрын
Turbocharged 3.0L engines it is, then.
0:40 The sound of W12 in Brazil
Its true. Top speed 349-350 kph for Max in Q3
Surely the regs will adjust to make the cats a bit faster eventually
Hum… in Baku 2023 one of Haas reached 357 km/h with DRS + tow. Curious what speed 2023 cars reach in Mexico and Monza
Perez in 2016 did 370 in the race
ahaha i see you removed the (probably) after the race weekend
People seem to forget the illegal 2019 car as one of lewis' opponents. Every arguement against him starts with "best car, no competition etc" yet i feel like ferrari of 2022 did not challenge Max any more than the 2019 car challenged lewis. Both rocketships, both fell off towards the end like... well ferrari and both were good on one lap pace but always lacking race pace. The ferrari formula hasnt actually changed lol. 2018 was similar, except ferrari actually had race pace before they fell off once again
362 in the race this year
Kimi 2018 366 kph
is this what ppl want? bigger and slower cars?
@2ndcaptain9x8
Жыл бұрын
No , at least I don’t, I want the 2018-2021 f1 cars back not the current 2022 ones.
where do you found this video?
@qrda3315
Жыл бұрын
F1tv pro.
pretty sure we will eventually, because progress
Albon did 355+ during the race.
The engine at peak isn’t weaker from 2024 onwards. Plus cars are meant to become lighter as well with new chassis changes. At peak, the new engines have 200+ more BHP than the current engines. This will not be the last time, I promise.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
Жыл бұрын
Not correct still The 2026 engines will be worse than the current ones due to the reduced fuel flow limit and more spec parts
The alpine will offer something interesting
With less drag due to ground effect cars should reach 355 kph easily
additional weight doesn´t affect top speed and the engine power is the same if not higher. 2022/2023 cars reach higher speeds due to ground effect being much less draggy
"Unless of cause another controversal engine comes up" Red Bull: HELLO
Look like the 2023 engine and aero is good enough to reach 360km/h
If Ferrari had this "Legal engine" in 2018 during the 2nd half, Seb could have won the championship :')
@Laennie5
Жыл бұрын
True
Imagine if he had a tow he probably would’ve reached 370
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
nah
@koen09871
Жыл бұрын
Air density is already very low so a tow won't be that effective
@purebloodsunite7489
Жыл бұрын
@@koen09871 tow is effective at top speed, doesn't matter much what that top speed is
@davidbabu1073
Жыл бұрын
kimi did 366
@davidbabu1073
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/aait1caRndq-XdI.html
I Think the RB's Honda PU will be pretty close to 360kmph.
should not it be the other way around? 2022 car wings are simpler and ground effect has less impact on drag, 2022 engines are not weaker as well, leclerc and verstappen reached 342 km/h at monza in qualifying
@kijja
Жыл бұрын
2022 engines do produce less power than their 2021 counterparts. Due to the introduction of E10 fuel this year. Estimates seem to be from 5-10% reduction power this year. This is made up by the reduction is drag in this set of aero rules so you won’t notice it too much in top speed but it is noticeable is accel.
@yelistener
Жыл бұрын
2022 engines are weaker because of E10 and the ICE-mode ban. And of cause much weaker than that 2019 Ferrari engine.
@pablo3558
Жыл бұрын
@@yelistener 352 km/h speed trap magnussen at qualifying, not that far
"Unless of cause another controvertial engine comes up" RedBull: Hold my beer
@Rilex037
Жыл бұрын
what kind of engine is that?
2023 engine with GP2 engines
well the current cars are supposed to be less "draggy" as the downforce is generated on the floor not the wings, well see
The 2022 cars are really quick in a straight linez especially the RB's so i think we'll see them hitting 360km/h
@darwinrasyadan14
Жыл бұрын
maybe, but not as fast as the SF90
@ThEgamingGINJ
Жыл бұрын
Maybe 350’s I doubt 360
@amonero1
Жыл бұрын
They’ve been faster in practice already
nah, Max will casually hit 369 kph. which is nice
Imagine he had slipstream would have been 370km/h🔥
and some say that Merc had 1 second per lap faster car
Also I wouldn't call the engine controversial, as it was clearly cheating. They reached an agreement with the FIA and then their engines were suddenly incapable of competing.
@prajwalkpbhat8998
Жыл бұрын
We don't know whether it was illegal or not as the fia didn't release any findings to the public. Even if they were exceeding the fuel flow limit, the fia and the teams were unable to prove it. It's basically as illegal as redbull's cost cap thing and merc's excess oil burning in 2017.
@Slimmeyy
Жыл бұрын
@@prajwalkpbhat8998 So... just flat-out illlegal.
Would’ve got pole had it not been for Bottas’ crash. He was flying around here
Imagine that 2019 illegal Ferrari engine in the back of the W11. 😳
Yes they are heavier and less powerful, but downforce doesn't really matter at all, does it? Top speed is about drag. I mean they haven't been faster on straights troughout this season compared to earlier, but isn't this pretty much the first long straight without a high speed corner before it? So if the cars are indeed less draggy than before maybe they could reach this speed? We'll have to see, I guess.
@ArjunUK55555
Жыл бұрын
Downforce and drag are proportional to each other. More Downforce means more drag, but not the other way around.
@watchnocatch171
Жыл бұрын
@@ArjunUK55555 Depends on the aerodynamic efficiency, doesn't it? For example if Formula 1 cars would use fans to suck them on the ground they would most likely have more downforce and lower drag at the same time compared to now or even last year.
Red Bull: 400KMH SHALL BE ACHIEVED
wait, the 2022 engines are weaker than the previous ones? why?
Probably
Now watch 2023 redbull.... :D
And people say Mercedes had no competition when red rocketships like this existed
@Sticktothemodels
Жыл бұрын
Pure revisionism. Vettel challenged throughout the season in 2017/18 & this illegal engine in 2019 was no joke for most of the season
@ryanjonathanmartin3933
Жыл бұрын
It's why I believe when people say they don't like Mercedes, they actually mean "I hate Lewis Hamilton". I think if Lewis didn't go to Mercedes, Mercedes wouldn't be as hated.
In Mexico 2023 , Haas reached 351 without an illegal engine 😎
Will see RB18 🤔
wait.. why did i come to the comments? oh yeah, the downshifting at t1 sounds like a scar from fortnite lol
maan to think sergio perez reached 370 KPH here with a tow ☠️
its controversial, not controvertial
all this “grey zone” PU and they still lost constructors lol
Why not?
If they introduce nitro in this car it would happen.....
Yeah, we won’t. I don’t mind though
but dosent weight have no impact on top speed?, i guess maybe acceleration is a factor
the fia is killing de f1
@2ndcaptain9x8
Жыл бұрын
true
2019 Ferrari engine moment be like
12900 RPM lol!!!
imagine they use v10 engine in mexico
@Spyker8921
Жыл бұрын
N/A engines are crap in altitude
@ALPHABYTE64
Жыл бұрын
yea, it would be slower
Carlos sainz just did 365kmh in the practise and qualifying will be even quick so guess not 🤷♂️
2022 cars are faster in a straight line, yes they have weaker engine but a lot less drag
just inject oil in the intercooler
*controversial
#OnThisDay Vettel got his 4th championship at Indian GP
They will get there by 2025
And only burns 40 mpg. Of oil.
Why F1 cars achieve a bigger top speed at mexico?
@AlexMartin-xh3lc
2 күн бұрын
Por La Altura, El Aire Nos Es Tan Pesado y Sí No Tuvieran Mucha Carga Aerodinámica Llegarían Sin Problemas Hasta Los 400 KM/H.
Monza Qualy: 2019 349,7 km/h (perez), 2022 347,8 (latifi), not that much difference, 2022 have less drag due wheelcovers and ground effect
Albon will somehow do it
"controversial"