The Ocon/Alonso Jeddah Drama: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iomJj5Zyc7GekaQ.html

@namiboosterhuizen6610

Жыл бұрын

Clickbait!

@footballlatest9510

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Skynetska

Жыл бұрын

Only true f1 fans understand this 😂😂

@JebuzzCrust56

Жыл бұрын

@@namiboosterhuizen6610you wish lmao

@JebuzzCrust56

Жыл бұрын

@@footballlatest9510still laughing?

Ocon really can't accept the fact that Alonso is still faster than him

@zongballs

Жыл бұрын

"Ocon, Alonso is faster than you."

@denzel9086

Жыл бұрын

Ocon isn't a snitch or police boy so he can sleep easy knowing he won't get killed

@nabell2032

Жыл бұрын

"fernando is faster than you"

@Nassyy

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he can't confirm he understood that message.

@Jaco4e

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Ocon is 27 years old and it's supossed to be faster than a 41 years old guy. People sometimes forget that Alonso is one of the greatests of f1. Hope history make justice for Fernando.

Don't forget that he is not allowed Alonso by overtaking him at the first stint, he was slower so they lost amount of time. Alonso stopped first, he tried to overtake Ocon and Ricciardo overtook both of them. They again lost plenty of time with the hard tyres but Alonso managed to overtake Ocon out of Tv footage (team decision ?) and Alonso finished 15seconds in front of Ocon. I think that's why Alonso decided to go to Aston Martin, it was a big point for his decision.

@achintya3061

Жыл бұрын

Lol the agend is stong here , ocon finsihed 2.7 sec behind Alonso + Alonos was let through [ Team orders }. Your statement is so stupid

@Deathblow85

Жыл бұрын

In onboard footage Alonso was also openly complaining about Ocon being a bad teammate during this, so aal the signs were there

@jcarlos414

Жыл бұрын

Ocon only target is to beat Alonso in the championship, which is OK, and I think Alonso is going to "choose violence" next time Ocon tries the same. But I think Alonso decided to join Aston Martin because Ottmar just gave him one year contract, and probably tried to reduce his salary. Rossi and Ottmar have their own plan. Alonso was lucky to have a chance in AM, and go far away from these toxic guys.

@verde629

Жыл бұрын

Well Ocon is French so makes sense why Alpine kind of sees him as the face of alpine

@esteban4983

Жыл бұрын

yeah, good luck to ocon with going anywhere with that attitude

I’ve always been critical of ocon. The past two seasons he has proved he is the worst person to have as a teammate. There is always one driver on the grid no one wants as a teammate and ocon is definitely that guy.

@LandoNoWins99

Жыл бұрын

hes the most aggressive driver on the grid

@seafight74

9 ай бұрын

​@@LandoNoWins99most stupid*

@Angel-so6tg

5 ай бұрын

Everyone in the grid hate them xd

@robertoceballos1379

Ай бұрын

Just the past two seasons?what about since Racing Point

I used to be such a big Ocon fan. His story of becoming an F1 Driver and not being from wealth or having a very early sponsor like others is really inspiring. But man as he showed time and time again lately how he can be such a prick. This race at Hungary really made that super, crystal clear

@VictorTarela

Жыл бұрын

His post season statements about his better driving skills than Alonso really proove that he is one of the biggest assholes to take an F1 car lol

@angel64035

11 ай бұрын

That seems to me meritorious from his father, a car mechanic, as for Esteban I am not sure how different that was.

@pichueka

11 ай бұрын

I feel and felt the same way

@Broseph-Stalin

2 ай бұрын

I know what you mean it's like I wanna like ocon, but he makes sure to do something to ruin his image every chance he gets

You are damn right, Ocon's mentality is horrendous. He proves that time and time again, hopefully gets dropped in a season or so

@nabell2032

Жыл бұрын

bro raced his teammate harder in his whole career💀

@tegarandikash

Жыл бұрын

And wonder how tf toto still keep him from the academy. He's not going to ba a good teammate of anyone

@itax2139

Жыл бұрын

I never really understood why people say that he is underrated like he really isn’t THAT good

@RockSolitude

Жыл бұрын

@Dacia Sandero guys the problem is the mentality and backing behind Alpine is so weak that if they become a backmarker Renault might just give up and pull out entirely.

@dziolex2190

Жыл бұрын

@@RockSolitude maybe they'll be replaced by a better team

Add the unnecessary defence at the French GP. His behaviour at the Hungarian GP hastened Alonso's exit from Alpine

@michaelmorales7654

Жыл бұрын

Jeddah is another example, where the team might have benefited had they inserted themselves at some point.

@turognlz1447

Жыл бұрын

Do you think drivers go to another team from one day to the next? Lol

@jamesbassil2088

Жыл бұрын

Relations with alpine were already breaking down before this point, and I don't think ocon was gonna be siding with Alonso. Alonso since he left Renault for the first time seemed to bring his bad luck and overly passive aggressiveness everywhere with him, to McLaren both times, and to alpine now. Ocon has done nothing wrong, nor anything different to what Alonso was like with his teammates especially earlier in his career. I love Alonso, but people have to realise much of the bad luck he has had in his career has been brought on by him and his personality, and the same goes for the relation with his teammates

@best___0999

Жыл бұрын

Glad alonso left alpine they don’t deserve a driver like alonso

@pratisthshetty4523

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbassil2088 I always felt the same as you mentioned her. Talent doesn’t work if you have a big Ego. Also imagine two big Ego’s of Lawrence and Alonso colliding next year. I just wish AM have a championship winning car soon. The drama that is going to unfold is going to be so much fun.

Piastri's reason for not accepting alpine's offer..

Can't wait to see him get absolutely humbled by Pierre this year

@TomBlu16

Жыл бұрын

commenting this after the Australian GP it didnt take too long until they crashed each other out XD

@zulfarisekapermata3056

Жыл бұрын

And also he crash into pieree now in austalia 2023

@KavinRamchandran

Жыл бұрын

@@zulfarisekapermata3056 How did Ocon crash into Gasly?

@JuanCarLostYT

5 ай бұрын

Commented after the 2023 season: Ocon humbled by Gasly. The world is right again

@justinsmith4562

5 ай бұрын

This is exactly what everyone was asking... How? Why? WTF? @@KavinRamchandran

This is not new. Just look at Ocon in force india against Perez. He always defends and battles his teammates too hard. It even cost him his seat in 2019 because no one wanted him in his team because he is trouble, only time this didn't happen so much was with Ricciardo because he got completely destroyed that year.

@timmynicolas8729

Жыл бұрын

That's straight up false. Ocon didn't get a seat caus all the other seats were taken and he didn't bring much sponsor money , not caus if the way he raced Perez . Only one of 6 incidents between Ocon and Perez were Ocon's fault

@jamesbassil2088

Жыл бұрын

@@timmynicolas8729 exactly, in 2019 he was kicked out his seat by stroll, with him being told he would be replaced most likely sometime in November, when virtually every seat, if not every seat (I can't remember off the top of my head) was already full, this left him having to settle for a reserve for 1 year, but in his 2.5 years back, he has shown to be a solid midfield driver, and I think most of this stuff between him and Alonso on track is due to Alonso breaking down relations with alpine more than anything

@denizberberf1

Жыл бұрын

Bro, sorry but i disagree with comment. Cause Perez definitely crashing into Ocon for 4-5 times I don’t know. Ocon’s doing mistakes to Alonso this year but don’t forget Qatar defence to Perez. If we come to 2019 seat Ocon kicked because they think like you. I am an Ocon fan. If I tell wrong let me know that.

@fatal2830

Жыл бұрын

@@denizberberf1 Perez crashed a lot with ocon from my point of view it was Perez fault but this year ocon is unnecessary defending against Alonso

@denizberberf1

Жыл бұрын

@@fatal2830 agree

What a disgrace, Esteban really has a problem. He is ahead of Alo in the standings because of luck and Alonso's reliability issues and bad strategies by Alpine. Alonso has been beating him in terms of pure pace all this first half of the season. I'm sure in the second part Fernando is going to destroy him even more and get the points he deserves

@lozy497

Жыл бұрын

Due to Alonso being so unlucky this first part of the season Ocon now really wants to take advantage of that and try to finish ahead of him this season

@Vokefff

Жыл бұрын

🤓🤓🤓🤓

@matchless98

Жыл бұрын

@@Vokefff nice face reveal of yourself, do another one with clown makeup

@denzel9086

Жыл бұрын

Still doesn't change the fact Fernando is a snitch and a police boy who sang on some serious cases. Ocon is a real g, he knows to stick to the code

@f1videosforf1fans99

Жыл бұрын

@@denzel9086 bruh stop talking about the drivers personalities like you know them personally FERNANDO IS JUST FASTER than Esteban and thats it

Ocon is like my ex. You give them everything and in return you receive nothing

@imoanadz

Ай бұрын

same

And now Fernando finish p3 while Ocon got DNF. -Where is Estaban? -Ocon has retired -Karma! GRANDE ALONSO, TE QUEREMOS NANOO

Ocon clearly has a problem with feeling like second best. He's been paired with a lot of teammates that can outdrive him and instead of trying to learn and improve he plays dirty. There's a reason Alonso could hold of Hamilton for 10 laps.

@Firemarioflower

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Alonso was any better in 2007.... bitch please

I for one, is actually not against teammates racing each other as long as it is done fair and square. I'm from an era when having that is expected and part of the excitement. But to do it poorly at the cost of letting someone else from another team pass, like Ocon does regularly, is a whole different story.

@jamespoole3531

Жыл бұрын

If they’re both fighting for a title then fair enough, but they’re a midfield team trying to secure as many points as possible. This was just Ocon being a bitter teammate and sore loser.

@debaitf1686

Жыл бұрын

Your speaking FACTS man if your not liked by by a lot of f1 fans then you get a lot more shit than you wound if the media and fans liked unless you from France

@DevinEMILE

Жыл бұрын

@@debaitf1686 the issue is Ocon is costing the team while doing it. I’d have nothing against the block in lap 1. Except he left the outside side open and let a car steam down the outside. Then his stupid games cost them a spot to Daniel Play stupid games when your alone not when you have a rival sniffing your tail pipe.

@debaitf1686

Жыл бұрын

@@DevinEMILE why point is that Ocon gets a lot more shit than let say like Russel if they both did the same thing and yeah Russel would get shit but in a weeks time not people wound talk about it but whenever it’s Ocon you go on and on and on and on and on

@DevinEMILE

Жыл бұрын

@@debaitf1686 Probably because Russell doesn't have a history of wrecking his teammates. The Goat never was really was fast enough to be in that spot. While Ocon while with Force India/Racing point made it a common sight to see the two of them tangling. Thats not to say they were all his fault. But its still a history of doing it.

This is a disgrace. Ocon only focusing to win agaisnt Alonso, and letting all oponents overtaking. This is not teamwork. He cant accept that Alonso is better than him with 41 years. Immature mentality.

This was right after Alpine found out Alonso was having meetings with AM. I'm cinvinced Ocon recieved direct orders after the show to block Alonso's race anytime he could.

But yet conviently when he is asked to defend like a lion in Qatar, he could not even hold Checo off for one corner

@timmynicolas8729

Жыл бұрын

What did you want him to do lmao , use nitro ?

@kobloxy44

Жыл бұрын

Wtf can he do on a straight 300m longer than hungarys on a wide track with old tyres compared to new softs for Checo

@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771

Жыл бұрын

braindead alonso fans at it again lmao.... did you expect him to defend the same way that alonso did in hungary last year?

@robertdevald

Жыл бұрын

@@kobloxy44 what did Checo do on old crusty ass tires against Hamilton in Abu Dhabi? Yeah, exactly. That's how you defend. Ocon is garbage...

@mohammeded-dahbi7603

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he should've crashed into him, right?

Remember the Ocon-Perez days? He managed to make the best teammate in F1 his enemy. Class act this guy👏

@rileyjordan9072

Жыл бұрын

agreed. guy is a joke

@speedyplayz23

Жыл бұрын

@@yugarten8523 fr most of the accidents were Perez fault

@rtide

Жыл бұрын

@@speedyplayz23 Combination of both

@Cynycter

Жыл бұрын

So we gonna pretend like Perez didnt cause most of those accidents because he was being an asshole? And he knew he could get away with it because Force India was dependent on the sponsorship money he brought

@eulogp9888

Жыл бұрын

@@speedyplayz23 like Baku, when Ocon pushed Perez into the wall, and robbed the team of a potential 1-2? Perez was only at fault for Spa, it was a payback for Ocon's antics.

Ocon is a middle/low class driver and Alonso is a master. And that is reflected in every single minute of racing.

leaving alpine may have been the best decision alonso has taken in his career

Jeddah is another example, where the team might have benefited had the team inserted themselves at some point. It was neat to watch but couldn’t help but think the in race resources could’ve been used against opponents instead.

@terminayt6457

Жыл бұрын

Just let them race, since when do people want team order??

@ILikeRice88924

Жыл бұрын

@@terminayt6457 ong if Alonso was doing that people would be praising him

@marekbuhla6729

Жыл бұрын

@@terminayt6457 thats why you or ppl with same thinking cant be a team principal.. if you are not winning driver championship your only goal is constructor championship and there you need to maximize points and team orders are necessary to do it.. it is bussiness not fun for them .. shut up already about let them race ..

@hlonim8667

Жыл бұрын

@@ILikeRice88924 💯

@byanymeansnecessary9329

Жыл бұрын

Poor leadership at alpine, should control both their drivers better

Ocon is just an average driver, that is why he focuses his frustration on a two-time world champion with 41 years old who makes him look like an amateur every single race for 2 years in a row

@j.s3300

Жыл бұрын

You sure?

@chevesj

Жыл бұрын

@@j.s3300 pretty much

@j.s3300

Жыл бұрын

@@chevesj and yet its alonso running away

@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590

Жыл бұрын

@@j.s3300 yes because alpine prefer keeping a stupid driver just because he eats baguette and its a french team

@SHRModding

Жыл бұрын

@@j.s3300 i mean if your boss and management screwed you over multiple times like that and you were given the same job with better pay and a longer contract, wouldn't you 'run away'?

Esteban is literally L human being. I remembered the days when he and Gasly were like childhood bestfriend, and their relationship wrecked just because Esteban’s jealousy of Gasly’s earlier career success in F1. This guy simply has a bad attitude and heart towards all of his teammates. if he continues to be like that so, i just hope that no teams would like to take him as a driver man. L

this why alonso make a move to aston

And ironically after all that Ocon still finished behind alonso

I don't know whose gonna take the 2023 Alpine seat, but I'm sure they will hate Ocon 👍

@X-TREME34

Жыл бұрын

and fernando is the worst driver to destroy a team

@Dolek135

Жыл бұрын

@@X-TREME34 toxic brit I assume?

@aventusV33

Жыл бұрын

@@Dolek135 obviously

@francisanatriello9815

Жыл бұрын

@@X-TREME34 Alpine is such a toxic team to be part of, just look how they treated Prost

@chellom292

Жыл бұрын

@@Dolek135 he has point alonso is not clean we all know his works from the past

KZread algorithm taking me here after first race of 2023 is glorious. Alonso in Aston Martin being driver of the day, showing everybody that he is still the boss, and Ocon being a clown getting penalties like an amateur. Like Alonso would say: Karma!

The first example you must understand that Ocon drives for Toto first and foremost. Even over his current team. Toto has always been Ocon’s meal ticket into F1. He got him his current spot on Alpine. It’s not surprise that Ocon helps Hamilton out when he can. Remember it was Alonso blocking Hamilton to help Ocon. If the roles were reversed the result would have been entirely different.

@starby1243

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Esteban works for Merc. No surprise he helped Lewis.

Ocon had many clashes with Checo in Force India. IMO is the most overrated driver on the grid. His racecraft is very weak.

@masterjackhalo

Жыл бұрын

We only confirm that Ocon was the main problem, not saying checo was innocent but at least we know he was deffending himself

@335is

Жыл бұрын

I never really understood the hype about him returning in 2019, thought he was just kinda average

@except_nothing

Жыл бұрын

2017 ocon was good, but it wasn't necessarily him clashing with checo, checo had clashed with him too in spa once, i remember.

@except_nothing

Жыл бұрын

@@335is he was a mercedes reserve driver like Russell, so people had high hopes for him

@jasperli

Жыл бұрын

@@except_nothing I’m still mad that he got the Force India seat and Wehrlein had to settle for the Sauber.

Never thought of Ocon’s sole victory as one he earned, rather one that was handed to him, Ocon had a history of being not only a bad teammate, but slower than whoever he’s paired with and getting into unnecessary collisions, this was really apparent when he was paired with Sergio Perez back in the Force India days

@timmynicolas8729

Жыл бұрын

He was faster than Perez in 2018 tho anyone who watched that season can agree . + Only baku is his fault , what about Canada ,spa (twice) , Singapore or hungary ?

@kobloxy44

Жыл бұрын

@@timmynicolas8729 idk what people are on about cos Checo did shove him in the wall more but also he is fighting to show his talent against Fernando

@metamonogatari3139

Жыл бұрын

Playing devils advocate, he won against Vettel because of chaos + help from his teammate + Vettel's slow pit stop and Vettel was faster still (had like 2 or 3 chances) but he couldn't get past because it's hungary

@gherbo1609

Жыл бұрын

@@metamonogatari3139 vettel got DQ due to fuel infringement anyway

@metamonogatari3139

Жыл бұрын

@@gherbo1609 yeah can't deny that

1 year later Alonso has achieved many podiums and Ocon is crying.

2023: +30s for Ocon

Good point. I was really shocked how ruthless Ocon was to his teammate. Only HAM-ROS days comes to mind. My guess is that he was genuinely shocked by Alonso form. In his 41 he gives Ocon (who is in his best shape) crazy challenge. In spite of a valuable skull, Ocon got well aging legend who outshined him. Even his highest achievement - P1 in Hungary is shadowed by incredible ALO performance.

@mohammeded-dahbi7603

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't give him crazy challenge, he wipes the floor with him. It would be an insult to Alonso to consider them on the same level or even close.

@agent6599

Жыл бұрын

@@mohammeded-dahbi7603 how does he wipe the floor with him? Even if you equalize both of their issues they are pretty close to each other. I’d agree it to be an insult if you compared each other’s prime, but literally anyone who isn’t some biased Alonso stan can see they are evenly matched right now

@mohammeded-dahbi7603

Жыл бұрын

@@agent6599 No they're not? Alonso has had superior race pace throughout the vast majority of the season. Last year they were much closer to each other, but this year Alonso is significantly better. The thing is, Alpine for some reason decide not to use team orders. In Canada he was literally faster with an issue in ERS deployment. And he had much more bad luck throughout the season.

@mikemelina7395

Жыл бұрын

He wouldn't have had that P1 in Hungary had it not been for Alonso. Ocon's only win in F1 and it was a gift from his teammate. I don't see Ocon ever standing on another F1 podium.

@pedroferrr1412

Жыл бұрын

@@agent6599 Are you for real?! You must be French.

Since his clash with Verstappen in 2018 or something, I knew there's a problem with this guy. He had issues with Checo in Force India/RP, and again here with Alonso. He's good, but not good enough. He doesn't know how to pick his own fight. Always racing with the wrong people on track, only god knows what he wants to prove.

@H-Shop

Жыл бұрын

As a French, and since he's French, I assume he wants to protect his French pride. Which makes no senses. He could've learn from Alonso being the best teamplayer in 2021 but he decided to be the average online arcade racing game driver who thinks he's good.

@tombardsley3081

Жыл бұрын

Checo actually had a problem with ocon. He was the one that didn’t move over in Canada 2017 which cost ocon the chance of a podium and left them vulnerable to Vettel catching and passing them both. Also checo is the one that defended aggressively and took both cars out in spa and the incident in Singapore

@tombardsley3081

Жыл бұрын

@@danieljung5036 actually ocon was passed because he had pitted. Ocon had every right to unlap himself. As Hamilton said, Verstappen was the one that had everything to lose and didn't need to take a risk closing the door on a lapped car that he wasn't racing. He was well clear of Hamilton behind so he wouldn't have lost much time had he let ocon pass

@RiccardoTheBeAst

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Ocon is a complete idiot and worst team mate in the last years of F1

@ej20tnz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that thing in Brazil was disgraceful

Ocon is taking the F1 ''your only true benchmark is your own teammate'' motto too seriously. he doesnt care if he gets overtaking by ANYONE, unless its his teammate. the seriously embarrasing amount of points alpine lost this year thanks to Ocon... its staggering...

Ocon is one of the dirtiest pilots in Formula 1 history.

Also you forgot to mention lap 1 chicane incident where ocon pushed alonso off track

I remember watching this live and thinking "I would consider leaving Alpine if I'd be Alonso". This Ocon guy is such an ungrateful SOB 😂 and just few days later... It's one of my F1 dreams to see Alonso winning third one 🙏 cmon Aston Martin

@yourstrulybae

Жыл бұрын

I'm begging that Aston does keep up with their pace on their car next season and Alonso has a real fighting chance. He has everything, now he just need a bit of Car luck.

@alonsoalvarez6877

Жыл бұрын

After watching the 2023 Bahrain GP, it seems like your prayers (and also mines) have been heard my friend

@kyubzi

Жыл бұрын

@@alonsoalvarez6877 hype is real

@revahan

Жыл бұрын

@@kyubzi he also won again in Saudi Arabia Alonso sweep is real

@corpsecoder_nw6746

Жыл бұрын

yea and now Alonso is 3rd in the world championship as of 2 rounds of 2023.

Brazil Sprint brought me here.

great videos mate with the intresting topics and vid style keep up the good work 👍

Alonso stays clear because these kids are always ready to destroy thousands in parts and potential sponsorships Perfect example of how a guy worth gold always ends up at the wrong team at the wrong time.

@jadrione61

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@dragonkrieg4444

Жыл бұрын

Alonso is about 150 pounds, and that weight in gold is about $4 million. He is literally worth more than his weight in gold to a Formula 1 team i.e. the difference having him will make in WCC standings alone will be worth more than that

@byanymeansnecessary9329

Жыл бұрын

Alonso is himself a cancer and fully the reason why he isn't in a better car or team. He was too scared to fight Hamilton on equal terms in an equal car so he tucked his tail and ran back to flabbio to fix races. Alonso has gotten far more than he has deserved out of F1.

@brikbrak9386

Жыл бұрын

Alonso is also a jerk, don't understand why people portray him as the messiah.

@unthenner5519

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonkrieg4444 Bloody hell you're right.

He should be replaced Idk y alpine is keeping him Only got win one ocon (we all know how) Alpine 2022 cars have qualifying pace has more potential than getting p7,p8 Alonso’s Australia qualifying,Canada and all we all know Ocon isn’t even close to that not even showing any kinda impressive performance and yet get penalties unnecessarily

@smellymewi

Жыл бұрын

Him being French is the only reason why Alpine is keeping him.

‘Ocon is ready to lead the team…’ thanks for a good laugh….😂😂👍

No wonder why Pérez doesn't miss Ocon as a team mate XD hope Alonso gets a competitive Aston Martin in the next seasons

Good that Alonso will leave the team. I really wish for Aston to step up their game in 2023 so that Alonso can shine.

@pewpaw9379

Жыл бұрын

And they did 🎉

@marysalinas6146

11 ай бұрын

5 podiums out of 6 races!!!

Looking forward to see how Alonso handles him in the second half of the season.

@bean2705

Жыл бұрын

Hope he bullies alpine and ocon

@naiboz

Жыл бұрын

@@bean2705 😂 yeah, really hope he beats them up a bit.

Disgusting behavior from Ocon, and it's not the first time he's done this to Alonso, he just couldn't accept the fact that Fernando was better and faster than him. He wouldn't have won in Hungary the previous year if it wasn't for Alonso's defense on Hamilton.

Esteban can care about only one opponent per season. The one driving the same car as his.

Remember how everyone was praising him in 17/18? Alpine are so stupid for keeping him until 2024

@swamin764

Жыл бұрын

He is French

@betobeto1241

Жыл бұрын

He’s been awesome since last season… One bad race and he’s a bad driver? He hadn’t had and incident with a teammate since 2018 (Singapore), and it was completely checos fault

@Dolek135

Жыл бұрын

@@betobeto1241 One? ONE? Open your eyes, mate. Should help.

@betobeto1241

Жыл бұрын

@@Dolek135 go on, tell me which incidents he’s had? Fucking plastic fans please leave the sport, ur just freaking toxic for no reason. Ocon has been awesome all season. I swear he could save someone’s life and ud still say that he’s a shitty human being…

@335is

Жыл бұрын

@@betobeto1241 Jeddah he did the same

good points in the video. its interesting how the management at alpine are really messing the races up. ocon is under pressure because he is being outpaced by a driver who is old. last year the management used to take control in situations like this, they'd swap and let the driver behind 'have a go' and if the driver behind couldn't make headway they'd swap them back again. see brazil 2021 where alonso slowed down on the last lap to let ocon past. they played amazing team roles last year because management allowed it imo. this year the faster car has often been stuck behind the slower one and losing race time as a result, and management have done nothing. it's easier to follow closely in these cars compared to last year but still you need a faster car or tyre advantage to make a proper move again and again. so disappointing. it makes you wonder had alonso got past on lap 1 could he have challenged norris even after the switch to hards? mclaren was very quick on the hards compared to alpine, hard to say but surely he was the best bet to try, not ocon

@richards4456

Жыл бұрын

Szafnauer is the difference between this year and last year. Don't think much of him. Marcin Budowski was much more polished.

@SHRModding

Жыл бұрын

@@richards4456 yeah, my thoughts too. he didn't seem like he'd fit in the team like he did at force india prior to stroll takeover

Here after Bahrain 2023 Alonso made the right career move finally.

This is why I hate how Ocon is portrayed in DTS. He’s made out as this nice Frenchman who just wants to win but who in reality is a jerk to his teammates who are always faster than him. At Racing Point, Checo was faster. At Renault, Danny Ric was faster. At Alpine, Alonso was faster. And now, Gasly will likely be faster. And both Checo and Alonso complained about his aggressiveness towards him. At some point, teams will finally realize he’s not fast enough

@raunakroy1738

2 ай бұрын

Since when Checo was faster than Ocon?

@noahmorgan8520

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@raunakroy1738in 2020, Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 62 points to 125 when Checo was at Racing Point and Ocon was at Renault. Renault that season finished just 14 points behind Racing Point in the Constructor’s. In 2018 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 49 points to 62 when both were at Racing Point. In 2017 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 87 points to 100 when both were at Sahara Force India. Maybe he’s fast enough but he doesn’t beat out his teammates in equal machinery

The most overrated driver in the current grid

@Dolek135

Жыл бұрын

Not that many people rate him in the first place

@aventusV33

Жыл бұрын

Especially with how he's fairing against a 40 year old Alonso

@scottandy123

Жыл бұрын

much slower than a 40 y/o Fernando

@stanb5716

Жыл бұрын

@@scottandy123 yeah old Alonso need to retire like Kimi

@Dolek135

Жыл бұрын

@@stanb5716 He's wiping the floor with Ocon. Clean your eyes ;)

Imagine if alpine knew that Alonso would depart before the race and they instructed Ocon to block him because of that.

@kuyt20

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I think. I do not buy for one second that Szafnauer was completely blind to Alonso talking to another team.

@Timre23.1

Жыл бұрын

Only thing that doesn't make sence then is that you still want the best constructors place when the championship is over

@jcarlos414

Жыл бұрын

@@kuyt20 I think Ottmar didn´t expect Alonso to have any chance in other team but Alpine, and they were putting pressure on him. But you could be right, that Ottmar and Rossi wanted Alonso to reject the deal, so they prepared a bad deal for Alonso, made comments praising Ocon and Piastri over Alonso, and allowed Ocon to know he was 1st driver.

@umbium

Жыл бұрын

Alonso the weeks before this race was saying that he would retire when his teammate was way better than him, but that right now that wasn't the case. Someone got a bit salty+team wanted to put pressure over Alonso as a driver. Result? Ocon ended behind Alonso.

@pedroferrr1412

Жыл бұрын

@@Timre23.1 Do you think so, look at EU, what the leaders are doing to there own country´s ?! Don´t underestimate the idiotice of the people, anyone. The World is full of idiots in positions of power, like never before.

Ocon vs Max in Brazil ... that's all you need to know about Ocon.

Ocon has a history of over defending team mates - he clashed on multiple occasions with Perez at Racing point, Perez is a pretty clean driver overall, and on cases he defends team mates harder than other drivers especially lately with Alonso. About the only time I didn’t see him as aggressive was in 2020 at Renault with Daniel Ricciardo as his team mate where he wasn’t as quick over the season and they never were as close to each other

Ocon is plain afraid of Alonso. He is terrified that a 41 year old is still a better driver than him at 24 years of age and in all of the drivers' heads they see themselves as title worthy... So getting beaten by an old teammate who is way past his prime is not the nicest thing to happen to them, that's why ocon is extremely aggressive towards Alonso. That's my verdict. He's desperate.

@fggaming6258

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Esteban had the opposite mindset, how great Alpine would be 🥲

@anshumankakralia7542

Жыл бұрын

@@fggaming6258 Alonso is very mature... If he wanted he could have gone and fought as aggressive in Hungary and both would have been out... But he held all his emotions to keep both cars still in the race.

@MariadisHeller

Жыл бұрын

i would argue alonso is still mesmerizing to watch, especially his racecraft as good as ever, always aggressive but never over the line

@tombardsley3081

Жыл бұрын

Or Alonso gets upset too easily when someone beats him or races hard against him. I refer you all the way back to 2007

@nerd888

Жыл бұрын

@@tombardsley3081 yeah 15 years ago...

FERNANDO WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME ROLES REVERSED. HOLY FUCK. Double standards.

@ILikeRice88924

Жыл бұрын

And if Fernando did the same thing people would be praising him

@starsaber9378

Жыл бұрын

Yea

@Emerich2

Жыл бұрын

then why did alonso defend hamilton so long so that his teammate can win?

@Firemarioflower

Жыл бұрын

@@Emerich2 Dumb fuck.... That was also his own position he wanted to keep

@darkknightreturns1627

27 күн бұрын

​@@Emerich2Situation was different. Alonso and Ocon weren't racing each other directly for the win. Moreover, if Alonso didn't defend, not only Ocon but the team would've lost the win. Alonso defended for the team, not for Ocon. Any competent driver would've done what Ocon did. It's not as if Alonso was faster anyways.

Can't wait to grab my popcorn and see Raton and Gasly making the racing track their battle arena!

"Fernando is faster than you, Fernando is faster than you" This phrase haunts Ocon in his sleep

@xael-the-artist7708

Жыл бұрын

The spirit of Massa overtook him.

And it’s safe to say that I won’t be missing the days of having Ocon as a F1 driver !

I mean you guys are the fist ones to acclaim racers as Verstappen, Shumacher or Senna but can’t stand a racing driver trying to keep advantage on their opponent with a similar car. As long as it’s fair and clean, no reason to criticize it.

@hnnwom3572

Жыл бұрын

He trying too hard and in process ruins the whole teams race. And its not like it's prost-senna or hamilton-rosberg where they're fighting alone for the title. They're in the midfield and you can't afford battling your teammate all the time because it will cost you crucial time in the race. The main issue for me is that Ocon only defends hard against alonso. If he was racing the others hard no one would say anything

@cactusttp_5520

Жыл бұрын

@@hnnwom3572 He also defend hard on others, they are just not all shown… Just look at his in board

@hlonim8667

Жыл бұрын

@@cactusttp_5520 didn't hear them complaining about him defending very aggressively (dirtily) against Hamilton in Monaco, which... 1) kept Hamilton behind for a few laps 2) prevented Hamilton on his inters from closing in on Fernando 3) helped Fernando finish in front of Lewis.

@cactusttp_5520

Жыл бұрын

@@hlonim8667 I mean he did get a penslty there at some point…

Now yesterday's race feels even better 😆

Love the transitions from elevator music to screaming F1 engines

They way I see it, Szafnauer had heard about Alonso talking to AM (yes he will deny he knew about Alonso's contact with AM in public interviews). I do not buy for one second that he is completely blind to the fact that one of his drivers is not chatting to another team. Therefore he probably asked Ocon to try his best to outshine Alonso on track, no matter the cost. The second half of this season is going to be interesting. Alpine will entirely focus on Ocon. But Alonso will stop giving a s**t about not fighting with Ocon as he knows he will surely now be an afterthought to Alpine. Which means he gets to drive the way he wants and even Ocon would be fair game, and if that causes both of them to DNF, why would he care, right? I can't wait to see Alonso really fighting with Ocon on track now.

@mikezilla9675

Жыл бұрын

Alpine was already entirely focused on Ocon just look at that super long contract ocon got at the drop of a hat the same year he was still beaten by Alonso but Alonso only gets one year Bottas style extensions for his hard work.. Alonso saw the writing on the wall and was looking for an out even from the start of this year and as soon as Aston Martin opened they both snapped each other up immediately. I’m happy about seeing Alonso in a team that will treat him fairly again next year and all the resources they are putting into building a fast car for him.

@thatlazguy

Жыл бұрын

@@mikezilla9675 not even bottas style extensions, it was a one year contract as a seat warmer for a rookie. Massive disrespect to Fernando for no reason at all, i hope AM make a good car next year just so he can shit all over Alpine for this

@mikezilla9675

Жыл бұрын

@@thatlazguy they tried to trick Alonso into a 1 year contract and are now paying the price.. buffoons! Yeah me too! I’m confident he can.. they don’t even have a second driver yet.

@thatlazguy

Жыл бұрын

@@mikezilla9675 can't wait to watch ocon take both seats and defend against himself while letting other drivers through

@mikezilla9675

Жыл бұрын

@@thatlazguy 😂

Regarding what was said at the 5:30 timestamp; Stroll is arguably worse. And because Aston is literally owned by him, there are no repercussions. Just watch the last corner last lap at France 2022 for example.

@RockSolitude

Жыл бұрын

Stroll is accident prone and has no race sense or awareness, but at least with Stroll it's not malicious. He "does an Ocon" on accident, not on purpose.

@edyslavico3761

Жыл бұрын

he is not THAT bad imo

First race of 2023 and a podium for Fernando already… but also got hit by Stroll, his new teammate, within the first minute of the race 😂

@d9zirable

Жыл бұрын

Tbf stroll is struggling with his injuries

@Heathen.Deity.

Жыл бұрын

@@d9zirable true. He was hardly at 100% this past weekend and having missed the entire testing week with the 2023 car.

And now Ocon is suffering penalties for being an idiot with the 6th car while Alonso is fighting the big guys at the front with the 2nd fastest car. As Alonso would say: KARMA!

ultimate team game by ocon and hamilton in lap 1 🙂

Ocon was always the worst teammate on-track in F1. Ask Perez. I wouldn't miss him a bit should he leave F1 again.

@wastefellow2569

Жыл бұрын

Last year, it was Mazepin

@agent6599

Жыл бұрын

Perez was responsible for 90 percent of incidents in 2017-18

@ab8jeh

Жыл бұрын

What crap. Well Perez is the perfect teammate now to Max because he is so slow.

Well, well, well ... How the turntables!

Thats the stupidest decision to start making aggressive moves ON THE OPENING LAP! Cold tyres Ocon!

And Mclaren had only hards to put Ricciardo onto ig so they did the absolute same thing and obviously, through logic, decided to put him on the hards that slowed Alpine down even more after Ocon. Great stuff

Esteban can't see himself losing to Fernando

@turognlz1447

Жыл бұрын

He already lost last year and will also lose this year. Alonso's pace is too much for this guy.

@GallactusF1

Жыл бұрын

@@turognlz1447 Alonso owns him in Qualifyings. But the team somehow messes up Alonso's strategy. No wonder why he's leaving Alpine

@TheCreativeGuy264

Жыл бұрын

@@GallactusF1 Alpine slowly turning into Ferrari.

@joelthompson6201

Жыл бұрын

I see him losing to Alonso all the time. Too bad he can't see it.

Esteban Ocon, the driver that defends his teammate like a lion, and he also ignores blue flag. No wonder Piastri ran like hell.

@Firemarioflower

Жыл бұрын

Piastri is overrated and would not stand a chance

@Ardeurquire

2 ай бұрын

​@@Firemarioflowerpiastri is overrated😂

@Firemarioflower

2 ай бұрын

@@Ardeurquire You want to argue that he isn't? I'm keen to see what your arguments are!

@Ardeurquire

2 ай бұрын

@@Firemarioflower bro just buy glasses and then watch f1

@Firemarioflower

2 ай бұрын

@@Ardeurquire You damn well know that Piastri is overrated, just admit it. I don't need glasses, perhaps you take up your own advice and grow a brain in the process, as you clearly don't understand F1 at all!!!!

Ocon has a huge history of this, his days with Perez speak for themselves.

I started respecting ocon more and more until this GP where I honestly lost all respect. This was very classless of him to drive the way he did, in Hungary out of all places…

@agent6599

Жыл бұрын

Why did you lose your respect? At the start he is trying to keep his position, and Hamilton was going to get past him anyway, so it makes sense to block a driver you can compete with Also during the pitstops where did you expect Ocon to go? Did you want him to just disappear? Not his fault that Alpine once again delivered a slow pitstop and put him directly in front of the battle

@SriyanGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@agent6599 no point in blocking someone you can compete with if it’s your teammate. alonso is miles ahead of ocon and drivers should never be blocked like this; it’s illegal and especially stupid to do this to your teammate and lose positions to a rival team like ricciardo in the mclaren

Strange...everyone dislikes team orders,but when they fight everyone get salty.

@lukasralys6096

Жыл бұрын

There is time and place to fight your teammate, but when you get nothing out of it and lose very good points because of it, its not good

@LexeLite

Жыл бұрын

Remember Ferrari fighting in the sprint race and then conveniently giving Verstappen the win? Nobody wants to see that, fight when you clearly can't catch whoever in front and it's safe from behind.

I can confirm that Alonso is not missing Alpine anymore

this video aged like a fine wine, thx for the analysis

Ocons onboard on the lap start makes his move look x10s worse than on TV, the space Hamilton gets is insane

What amazing videos you make man, one of the best channels on F1 on KZread it has to be!

here after brazil 2023

Alonso and Estaban 2021: El Plan, and great working together. Alonso and Estaban 2022: Esteban forgetting El Plan trying to run over Alonso.

When Alonso asked "tell esteban to defence like a Lion", this is not the Lion that Nando means 😂

plot twist: another reason why alonso left Alpine

Ocon couldn't stand being slower than the legend Alonso. Can you imagine how he will behave with a French teammate of his age? Next season will be fun at Alpine.

@onetwo-gt2tr

Жыл бұрын

yep, its gnna be fun, Alpine also have scheduled their families to not be together in any gp, cuz their relationship from lower categories was really bad, cant wait for them crashing

Alonso gifted him his first win and Ocon pays backs but being an absolute rat

ocon defending his position at the start? unbelivable! alonso went out on his own aswell.

let fernando taste driving with owner's son and he will feel the same as here

@evanstanislas898

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Lance is worse than Ocon in this case.

@lozy497

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they already talked about that when negotiating with AM

@jimmystoney8029

Жыл бұрын

Lance is nowhere near Seb who already lost his motivation to continue when he is 23 years old, where most young drivers should be driving as if it was their prime.

@kuyt20

Жыл бұрын

You really think Alonso would not have already thought about that and included a protection clause for himself in his AM contract?

@mikezilla9675

Жыл бұрын

Lol if Aston wanted a driver slower than Lance they wouldn’t spend big money for Alonso.. it’s nonsensical. Both strolls are friends with Alonso for a long time btw

2:19 i bet Hamilton was buzzing almost laughing his head off at all that free space Ocon gave him 😂 to Alonso as well ffs Ocon 😂

I still see ocon as the guy who took the leader out while being a lap down

There is a reason almost nobody on the grid likes Ocon, especially his ex teammates

@jxswu3224

Жыл бұрын

Mick likes him

@peacemission305

Жыл бұрын

@@jxswu3224 Mick is a loser and a stain on his dad’s legacy, enjoy DTM next year mick

I still find it difficult to believe that Ocon was the reason behind Alonso's departure from Alpine. I can't see it happening but at least I can hope Aston Martin will build a car that will put them into the midfield.

@rodrigolloreda7012

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s why he left either. But it may have played a factor in HOW he left. You mess with the Spanish Bull long enough you get the horns. I also don’t think it was directed at Ocon, but rather the team for the way they’ve consistently handled these situations with Ocon, namely, by not handling it at all.

@blaise2833

Жыл бұрын

It's probably more than just Ocon. Probably Alpine as a team not respecting Alonso enough and even money from Lawrence Stroll

@Loucag135

Жыл бұрын

Lol good luck at aston career done now

@JariGarcia69

Жыл бұрын

And Snazfauer, and Rossi, want to pay half to Alonso than to Ocon, they are like goats... also they only gave him one year and withdraw him from the WEC and Fernando is a force of nature who wants to continue in F1 for at least two or three years more, he does not want the WEC, he has already won it twice, they believed they could do whatever they wanted with the drivers and they have remained what they are, stupid.

@campaneroprimero3753

Жыл бұрын

You must be blind then if you find it difficult. You have a NON team mate who does not care about other drivers overtaking you just to block your team mate at every race and opportunity. Then the Team Ambitions are always the same, happy whatever the results. A Team with no Discipline and no Ambitions is a Team doomed to fail in all areas. Alpine Management has been horrendous, the worst I've ever seen just second to McLaren with Ron Dennis supporting Hammilton years back when Alonso was put alongside.

Alright my only quibble is any driver starting where ocon is, or any driver on the grid is checking their mirrors like that and blocking to some extent

Anyone here after the sprint in Interlagos?

@TheJokerit19

Жыл бұрын

Me

I don't think blocking Alonso made a massive difference tbh because Lewis's start was much better than both of thiers.

@kuyt20

Жыл бұрын

They could have blocked Hamilton together had Ocon chose to defend the outside line.

Now I’m really happy that Checo put him in the wall multiple times during their stints in Force India/Racing Point. He deserved those

@leboucfou5834

2 ай бұрын

imagine you hate someone so much you wish him very dangerous situations

Occon vivirá el restos de sus días condenado a ver como su única victoria en la F1 se la debió a Fernando Alonso y si le superó en puntos no fue por méritos propios y honestos. Como me voy a reír de Alpine este año...