Some additional thoughts/corrections: 1) So, funny story. I've been digging into this for weeks, and right before publishing this video I finally found a 2015 paper that's kinda sorta talking about this? Not directly, but you can extrapolate some of my arguments from it if you want. I don't think I got completely scooped here or anything, I'm adding plenty of new stuff to the conversation, but I still want to recognize the work that's been done in the area so you can check out that paper here: www.macromusic.org/journal/volume4/09_Musical_Insights_Vol_4.pdf 2) There's also a broad corpus study at digitalwindow.vassar.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1387&context=senior_capstone that briefly mentions it, but without any specific interrogation. All this to say that, while I'm glad I hedged a little on the whole "I discovered this!" thing because technically prior documentation exists, I still think I deserve at least some credit for it. 3) I wanted to include a clip from Mad World at the beginning but it got caught by the copyright bot and I didn't feel like it was central enough to be worth fighting over. Sorry. 4) As you can probably tell from the number of times I said "last week" when the video I was referring to was two weeks ago, this video was supposed to come out last week. Scheduling stuff pushed it back and I didn't feel like rerecording 'cause I'm lazy and, in the grand scheme of things, what even is a week, y'know? 5) If you want to see this loop in action, Benny from Axis Of Awesome did a medley of 10 songs with it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ameV06mSo7XNcbw.html

@FelixLarios1234

3 жыл бұрын

Hey 12tone I always had a question, why is the Avengers theme song so interesting and how can I make my own

@normaldefault2206

3 жыл бұрын

@@FelixLarios1234 You might wanna check out Sideways' channel, I'm like 80% sure they've covered this question or something similar before multiple times kzread.info/dron/i7l9chXMljpUft67vw78qw.html

@zozzy4630

3 жыл бұрын

So, another commenter and I were discussing how the minor rotation seems to be used in both Dorian and Aeolian: "What I've Done" by Linkin Park uses a b6 in the melody, while "Radioactive" by Imagine Dragons uses a ♮6. I'm also pretty sure they use the correct respective IV chord (i.e. minor for LP and major for ID), although it's a little hard to tell. Does that have any ramifications on all of this? Has anyone started the Dorian version halfway through and made a Lydian counterpart to the major rotation? And I also wonder if anyone's done a song that switches between both modes (maybe just using a power chord for IV in the minor loop), or if there's an analogy for the Axis loop. Since the minor Axis progression has a built-in b6 it would probably be a bit of a challenge to use it in Dorian, but you could conceivably turn the bVII chord minor and make it Phrygian.

@MrAestas

3 жыл бұрын

I so love what you do and how you do it. Thank you and I'm very glad to know this awsome niche of The Internet

@baylinkdashyt

3 жыл бұрын

META: I note you've changed the show open, and I gotta say, I like the old 5-beat version better...

It’s the “I only know these chords on guitar” progression

@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500

2 жыл бұрын

Lol facts

As a guitarist, I'm gonna blame this on standard tuning.

@JeighNeither

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's just because you only play guitar. If you also played piano, you would likely see this folly perspective as the guitar bias it is. I'd wager 80% of those 115 likes also only play guitar. This progression is no more or less difficult or practical on either instrument.

@Sam-qc6sz

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeighNeither You are objectively wrong Because they are 116 likes

@ipecacisgoodforyou8128

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeighNeither is it so out there to assume that guitar has ad a bigger influence than piano in the developement of modern pop music?

@michaelsmusic3532

3 жыл бұрын

yeah that's it lol

@Cloiss_

3 жыл бұрын

see also Adam Neely's video on Hey Joe. what instrument a song is written on has a huge effect on how it's written

Any chord progression is stable as long as David Bowie is singing over it.

@jd_elderberry

2 жыл бұрын

Lol right

@krystalwolf1383

2 жыл бұрын

And Jacob Collier is composing it

@adamstricoff9708

2 жыл бұрын

Blackstar animal !

@jackinzone8961

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@itscarl0zyall1

2 жыл бұрын

Or Johny Cash

I can't believe you didn't end this video with ""Anyway, here's wonderwall".

@kenyonj7957

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agreeee

@LisaSmith-yb2uz

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@captainalex8003

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't need to.

@zorbanongreco

2 жыл бұрын

So glad he didn't. 🐂💨 💨 💨 💨

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagal the Cascade?"

@effiefs9561

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@sean_mccadden

3 жыл бұрын

“He had abilities to play music that were known to be quite unnatural”

@oatnoid

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it happened on the planet Armeniar VII didn't it? Or was that Star Trek?

@semblanceofmagic4760

3 жыл бұрын

Literally laughed out loud!

@korayacar1444

3 жыл бұрын

"It's not a story the Common Practice would tell you."

Imagine his sheet music doodles were the only evidence of human existence

@yking7681

3 жыл бұрын

Those aliens would know everything about us, but they would think we were elephants.

@michaelsmusic3532

3 жыл бұрын

omg !!!! lololol That's funny

@jasonberezny9705

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤘❤️🇨🇦

@theloniouscoltrane3778

2 жыл бұрын

Made my day! Thanks

@yourguidefortheday928

2 жыл бұрын

We were elephant people who wrote language right to left in large multi definitioned glyphs, and wrote Math left to right in series of circles lines and smaller glyphs. Also even though language took up most of our writing we format our writing material to be optimized for maths

Another interesting thing to note about this progression (and its relative the Axis progression) is that it can very easily be played using the basic open chords on a guitar in standard tuning. For a rock-oriented beginning guitarist, E/Em, A/Am, G, D, and C are probably the very first chords they learn. This means that songs using the plagal cascade and the Axis progression are both easy to learn and easy to write with minimal experience. They also translate well to another popular and easy rock technique, power chords. When you combine this ease of access with their suitability for rock/pop styles, it's no surprise that they're among the most popular of chord progressions.

@ZipplyZane

3 жыл бұрын

And, of course, if they want them in other keys, they can just use a capo.

@beneathpavement1

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, see also that Scandinavian guitar dude who talks about what makes rock song rock songs for 15 minutes using all manner of music theory, then at the end points out that all of the stuff he was talking about involves open major chords. Rock is dumb, rockers don't understand theory, we play guitars.

@maximiliangfrorer1039

2 жыл бұрын

@@beneathpavement1 on the point. Rock is more about the lyrics and the energy!

@dyscotopia

Жыл бұрын

@@maximiliangfrorer1039 after watching enough 12 tone videos, I hesitate to call any particular type of music dumb. Easy to play does not equal dumb. Even when using common progressions,. most memorable rock, or hip hop or pop song do a lot of interesting things. Some can be notated, like syncopation and melodies that seem to be in contrasting keys to the harmony, while far more others, like timbre and lyrical intonation and swing are harder. Layering and chaining a number of different "easy" parts can create a very musically satisfying piece. As an electronic musician, there's a lot of repetitive, minimal stuff out tthat is just all timbre and production trickery. Is it dumb? Probably not, but it's boring to my ears

I feel like we should call it the Allied progression

@Domitianvs

3 жыл бұрын

This definitely needs more likes.

@fly4doe2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Domitianvs Yuckitie yuk yuck...a WWII reference. Right on. BTW, anybody feel like Germany has entered into a non-aggression pact with Russia again....say in 1/2022?

"After all, I'm only human..." **draws an elephant**

I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about this chord progression

@ata5855

3 жыл бұрын

well-played

@mickeyburns3494

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe...

@lucyfer_the_bat

4 ай бұрын

never really had a doubt

I've just always thought of this chord progression as being Dorian. Or at least that's how I've come about playing it on my own.

@zozzy4630

3 жыл бұрын

Technically it would be dorian on its own because the IV chord is major, but it tends to be used under the natural minor scale (take "What I've Done" by Linkin Park for example, where he hits the b6 scale degree in the melody during the chorus ["...what I've done/ I'll fix MY-self"]). A counter-example (where the melody is also dorian) is "Radioactive": "...wo-o-o-oah, I'm radioac-TIVE, RADIOAC-tive" really leans into that ♮6th.

@danielmirandacastro7161

3 жыл бұрын

Its pretty hard to hear it as a Dorian progression tho cause the 2nd chord is bIII and this really attaches you to the minor key. Last chord could be seen as modal interchange tho

@zozzy4630

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielmirandacastro7161 Dorian also has a bIII (dorian would be the diatonic scale starting on re, so that's the major triad on fa). The last chord could definitely be analyzed as borrowed from Dorian if the melody sticks to a b6 degree (as in natural minor) but the chord loop uses a major IV chord instead of the minor iv chord in minor.

@danielmirandacastro7161

3 жыл бұрын

@@zozzy4630 I'm not saying the bIII chord doesn't exist in Dorian, I'm saying it really pushes you towards minor Also you don't have to play the b6 in the melody to consider a IV chord a modal interchange (I mean actually you should avoid that there's a natural 6th in your chord), the fact that you're using the IV chord without truly leaving the previous key is the definition of modal interchange

@danielmirandacastro7161

3 жыл бұрын

Just try by yourself, play some natural 6ths over Boulevard of broken dreams and taste the spicy spicy dorian flavor in a minor key tune (I love this sound Hehe)

First song that popped I into my head when I saw this progression was Boulevard of broken dreams

@akashvenkatesh02

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@burpie3258

3 жыл бұрын

YES

@-guitarhero

3 жыл бұрын

this and hey joe by hendrix too

@Eichro

3 жыл бұрын

same key, too

This is my “lets see if I’m in tune” progression and I had no clue it was actually used in songs.

For those who know the four chords of pop from Axis of Awesome (or just like mashups), their keyboardist has a video mashing up songs that use this progression. It's on his channel BennyTheJukebox and is called Another Four Chords.

If you're looking for an actual minor, early, "looping" example of this chord progression, check out Serge Gainsbourg's "Bonnie and Clyde" from 1968 ! It's a song that I always thought sounded remarkably modern, and the chords are definitely part of that.

@Appers

3 жыл бұрын

Absolute incredible banger as well.

@Phoenixhunter157

3 жыл бұрын

Aghhh! Love that song! Was listening to it last night! ❤️

@koala2072

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was thinking of this song as well. It's an all time classic for us French. I personnally also love the song White as diamonds by American folk singer Alela Diane that uses this progression.

@zorbanongreco

3 жыл бұрын

@Tristan. Good call ! 🐂💨 💨 💨 💨

@joshua.t.harvey

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a killer song (so to speak)!

I saw "somebody" coming from a mile away and your execution of that part still landed perfectly. Kudos!

This is one of the best 12 tones. I love that progression, although I’ve just thought of it as Dorian. It’s a great progression for jam songs. Everyone just seems to click when you chose a song with that progression.

i love the name "plagal cascade" but i can't stop thinking about half-life "I never thought I'd see a plagal cascade, let alone create one..."

@somedude5414

3 жыл бұрын

Hurry up, Gordon!

6:08 that's some fluid equation writing.

@janmelantu7490

3 жыл бұрын

I was not expecting Fluid Dynamics in a music theory explainer but Air is a fluid and music has dynamics

@giuseppedominici7097

3 жыл бұрын

@@janmelantu7490 makes sense.

@LAM1895

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention he wrote it backwards, probably because he is left handed

Agree with all of the “Dorian” comments... to me this is the “Dorian” progression.

@adamgillespie3393

3 жыл бұрын

The melody is never specifically Dorian though so that doesn't work

@sssjaeger

3 жыл бұрын

I think it might be easier to think of it as the IV chord being borrowed from the dorian mode

@RiffMusic1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@sssjaeger Interesting. What mode would you consider in to have to borrow from Dorian?

@TimPauls

3 жыл бұрын

I too was thinking this is just an E Dorian progression. (D major with emphasis on the 2nd degree: E) but I like all this other stuff. Very cool. But it is Dorian. Harmonized scale of Dorian is: Imi, IImi, bIIIMaj, IVMaj, Vmi, Vidim, bVIIMaj... The progression (chord loop) here being: Imi, bIIIMaj, bVIIMaj, IVMaj. You could also think of it as a 2-5 progression with a cadence preceding the 5 chord. Really giving you that Dorian sound.

@TimPauls

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamgillespie3393 even if the melody is not specifically Dorian are not the chords enough to determine the key. I'm just wondering what I'm missing. To me this is totally a Imi, bIIIMaj, bVIIMaj, IVMaj progression or loop. All the chords are from the key center of D major, with the emphasis on the E minor. I would only need two chords E minor to A major to identify it as a Dorian sound (a II-V progression)

You need to know that I’ve been searching for the title of “Pictures of Matchstick Men” for YEARS. Thank you!!

@zorbanongreco

3 жыл бұрын

🙄? they sing the title a lot in that song !! 🐂💨 💨 💨

I just wanna chime in and say that i really appreciate the analytical approach you share in these videos. I take an experimental approach to my composition process (which is to say that analysis always comes later at the expense of trial and error), so it is always fascinating and enlightening to hear your perspective on these things from more of a pattern-recognition angle. So so so cool!

Bryan Adams "Run to You". I always loved that chord progression. Now I now why!!

@chadpollet7452

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was hoping someone would mention that song!

@federicogatto2635

3 жыл бұрын

Yeaaaahhh

@Armakk

3 жыл бұрын

When the feeling's right...

@seanfitz81

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna run all nighttt

@zoltannemeth8864

3 жыл бұрын

“I’m gonna run to you (tube)...”

It’s just a standard Dorian progression to me. I always called the “melancholy chord progression.”

@reineh3477

3 жыл бұрын

Dorian was my first thought too

In your video on "What I've Done," I noticed that you could flip the progression to major and it ends up being "All Star." I wish I'd thought that observation was profound enough to comment about it back then so I had proof, but it's true.

I believe "Jane" by Jefferson Starship used this progression. That would be 1979ish.💋

@cfibb

3 жыл бұрын

True! Also “Calling Dr. Love” (Kiss, 1976).

@rknisple

2 жыл бұрын

I spent a while looking for someone else who noticed this! Great tune. 👍

Dude, nice find. I’ve known of this connection for over a decade, but the video explains it well, in a super-creative way - I hate how this channel reveals all my secret music tricks I’ve been using forever, but great job! haha:)

I really like these videos about chord loops, they are so unique and it's such a cool and interesting model that really shaped the way I think about songs I'm so happy you keep making those

This channel has proven my long-standing thesis that all the open chords on a standard-tuned guitar can be played in any arbitrary order and sound just fine. This video is the period on that sentence.

This is my favourite chord progression! I called it the Wonderwall chord progression since it's (at least in my head) the song that gave it prominence. A song with it is likely to become one of my favourites (and also its variation without the second chord, becoming Em-D-A). If you look up 'ii IV I V chord progression' on Spotify you'll probably find my playlist with songs that use it

Awesome Video dude! just found this today and will like and watch as many of your videos! Taught me something awesome from this video! I appreciate it dude!

Just discovered your channel, I'm impressed and subscribed. This is an awesome progression. Can't wait to do something crazy with it.

Oh my god, I ALWAYS talk about this progression. It's one of my favorites, and it appears in lots of popular songs in the last 12 years or so. Duran Duran has used it a billion times, along with One Republic, Imagine Dragons, Tears for Fears, etc. I always assumed it was effective because it starts off sounding like it's d minor, then sounds like it might be F major, then sounds like it could be C major, or some weird cross between d dorian and C major. It always has a wistful, semi-melancholy feel when stripped to the bare harmony. Will watch the video now to see what you say!

@pamspray5254

3 жыл бұрын

SAME! Legit one of my favorite chord progressions to play around with. It's also one of the easiest to play on guitar, I've found.

I've always thought of this progression as the rock version of a I-vi-ii-V. its like that classic jazz progression but flipped upside down because why not, its rock and roll and we dont care about rules

your accessible explanations of loop theory are my absolute favourite, thanks for always digging in!

I love your videos! Really great explained and you give much to think about. Thank you!

“Alive” Pearl jam. The only reason i know this is because I’m in a cover band and Ive explained the prog to other members as the man in the box prog. Love ur channel!😀

@KevyNova

3 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought too. I covered that song with a band in 1991.

@Deiadara

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's E instead of Em in Alive

FEEEEEEEEEEEEEED MY EYES

@derk.ex.machina

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ 🙄

@zurielfernandes7670

3 жыл бұрын

NOW YOU'VE SEWN THEM SHUT!!!🤟

@austinford5937

3 жыл бұрын

Since the 90’s, I thought the line was “fear in my eyes” Love those mis heard lyrics.

Love these chord theory videos! Keep up the good work!

Hey, I was just listening to the progressions here, and I can't help but notice how evocative they are of the westminster chime sequences, and since these are such popular clock chime sequences, I imagine that music of the 20th century was greatly influenced by them, as immediately following the industrial revolution making such things affordable to the world at large we had generations of families growing up in homes that likely sported a clock with Westminster Chimes that inundated their daily lives with the prolific progressions sounding every 15 or 30 minutes. It's no coincidence that we now see it in so much modern music today. Neat. It's like a cultural ear worm. WE JUST CAN'T STOP HUMMING THAT DAMN CLOCK CHIME!

Helplessly Hoping by CSN also uses this progression, released in 1969.

@hannabaal150

3 жыл бұрын

Very distinctive styling, beautiful guitars.

I sometimes think of this as the Linkin Park Progression, since it shows up in so many of their songs.

@adk_studios

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcgrath6118 A lot of their tracks have this same progression

@adk_studios

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcgrath6118 I'm sorry. Its not exactly the same. I got this info from a video The Linkin Park Formulas By the channel Holistic songwriting Its an interesting video

I care. I find it all fascinating. Your breakdowns are for music like what understanding the power of dividing by two or ten are to math - they help me see relationships between elements that I would never had dared to pursue before. While there's not much practical application for me as I'm not a songwriter, it helps me better understand patterns I hear in music, which helps me catch when someone does something tricky in a song like resolve to a different chord than I was expecting or break their established rhythm to change the feeling of the moment when it happens. It's not something tangible I can even articulate how it goes over in my head, but it brings added enjoyment to music. Add to that, ever since you explained the skill of listening exclusively, tuning parts of a song out to hear other parts that are not as emphasized, I've come to appreciate bass a heck of a lot more and that too helps make parts of music that I was oblivious to suddenly "visible" to my ears. A good example of a song that takes on so much more meaning and enjoyment is (ironically) "Listen" by Collective Soul when I apply a lot of what I've learned to listen for. I guess what I'm saying in my ineloquent way is thanks for making your videos available to everyone. My life is better for viewing them.

I've been thinking about this for so many years... Thank you for bringing this up!

can anybody tell me what going on 7:28? where did the a minor and c major come from?

@simmme

3 жыл бұрын

It's the same chord progression but in A minor starting on the 3rd chord (vii, G major)

9:58 The closest that I know of is Every Day is Exactly the Same by NIN, which uses E C G F (instead of Em C G F)

@SelfPropelledDestiny

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting one. Would you think this was III I V IV? Seems similar to an Andalusian Cadence with that III. That E Major is a chromatic mediant of C making a kind of cinematic feel but the E does still sound like home, which is strange.

@something_different7632

3 жыл бұрын

@@SelfPropelledDestiny Thanks for your reply. I'd say probably yes. Considering that G F and E are the last three chords of, as you said, the Andalusion Cadence (i-bVII-bVI-V in A Minor or vi-V-IV-III in its relative key, C Major). Alternatively, one could view the progression as just borrowing chords from the parallel key, E minor (C and G) and from E Phrygian (F). Hence making it I-bVI-bIII-bII since E seems to be the tonic/home.

@something_different7632

3 жыл бұрын

*Phrygian Dominant

Thanks for the video! It's so interesting diving into how these four chord loops work.

This is the second video of yours I've watched, the Black Parade one being the first. This is the kind of music theory deep nerd I love! Thank you!

9:44 -- "Nights in White Satin" by the Moody Blues sort of uses this progression.

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

That draws on earlier classical roots (can never recall which one). What about the animals 'For You Love' ?

@seanfitz81

3 жыл бұрын

@@highpath4776 For Your Love is i - bIII - IV - iv

@susanbotsford9995

3 жыл бұрын

Nights In White Satin is really close, it's: em-DM-CM-GM-FM or i-VII-VI-III-bII I believe.

3 жыл бұрын

@@susanbotsford9995, no. Definitely not Dm. Em D Em D C G F Em

"Anyway, Here's Wonderwall.."

@fnjesusfreak

3 жыл бұрын

"What's a Wonderwall, anyway?"

@theburgersystem126

3 жыл бұрын

I said maybeeeeeeeee

@fnjesusfreak

3 жыл бұрын

@@theburgersystem126 You're gonna be the one that saves meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@theburgersystem126

3 жыл бұрын

@@fnjesusfreak and after aaalllllllllllllll

@patrickmurphy223

3 жыл бұрын

@@theburgersystem126 you’re my wonderwall!

I've been using these chord progressions in my writing for the last little bit because I thought they sounded cool. I love your videos!!!!!

Good video! An additional potentially interesting fact, for those of us into just intonation: The axis loop cycles around the same tonic on the lattice, whereas the plagal cadence travels consistently east on the lattice. In other words, the former has a consistent tonic frequency, the latter pumps up by a syntobic comma each loop. This is solvable by the use of the Pythagorean minor third for the first chord. Or of course by palindrome looping instead of recursion looping, but that obviously changes the musical cadence drastically. Now someone go make all-star comma pump up into the sky. I can’t be bothered. 🙃

A reference to Wishbone Ash?! Lovely.

@n3ssaya972

3 жыл бұрын

I was shocked and had to go back to make sure I heard it right.

@herrweiss2580

3 жыл бұрын

I have one of their albums, somewhere.

@StaleNachos

2 жыл бұрын

Mother of Pearl!

@wildrosecece

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the name

The famous sweet home Alabama 3 chord loop is this with one less chord. It explains the bitonality everyone argues about.I bVII IV, is in a zillion songs and it's even more common or was more common the the 4 chord loops. Half of 80s hair bands and many others used it.

Mind blowing good explanation and presentation and love the tempo

I think what makes them feel stable to me is the use of relative modes. I hear the plagal cascade as Dorian/Ionian, whereas the Axis progression sounds Aeolian/Ionian. In theory you could maybe do a Phrygian/Ionian loop, although I imagine finding an example would be harder given Phrygian isn’t a commonly used mode, and iii isn’t super commonly used in major progressions either.

I think the main riff from Jefferson Starship's Jane is Em-G-D-A, that's from '79. I'd say it's one of the most prominent examples of this.

@caseyspaos448

2 жыл бұрын

How about Ah Leah! By Donnie Iris?

@SteveBluescemi

6 ай бұрын

Yup, I immediately thought of "Wet Hot American Summer" when he played those chords

I'm fascinated by relative numbering patterns for chord progressions! Interestingly, if we assume that the ionic major is called the 1, then this progression can be described as a 2-4-1-5

@kzeich

3 жыл бұрын

Or is it E Dorian 1374

@hunterb4399

3 жыл бұрын

​@@kzeich Nice for sure, it's that as well! Perspective's craaazy maaaaan

@Syncop8rNZ

2 жыл бұрын

Or ii IV I V using upper case Roman Numerals for major and lower case for minor. But I too would say Dorian, thus i III VII IV.

My favorite version of this progression replaces the major IV at the end with a minor iv. It fits more neatly into natural minor, and it especially works well as a a pivot chord to set up a ii-V-i resolution into the next chromatic mediant (for example, starting in E minor, you can go with Em | G | D | Am for a bit, but then change the last go-around to Em | G | D | Am D | which then resolves to G minor, starting the chord loop over up a minor third from the original key).

I learn something new every video 📹 your content is amazing 👏

A loop I've noticed that sounds pleasing and has come up a few times in songs which I've enjoyed is I III vi IV. The III chord is obviously non-diatonic and provides and authentic cadence to vi, and the plagal IV-I movement is obviously much weaker yet still seems to work. Does this loop fit loop theories well?

Your videos inspire me!

This is really interesting. Thanks! I've been complaining to anyone who will listen about how a huge portion of pop songs recently are 4 chord cycles only, simply varying the melody to distinguish verse and chorus or other song parts. I see U2 as early pioneers of this form (e.g., with or without you), but pop music seems a bit tedious now as these loops dominate so much.

the chorus of Kiss' "Calling Dr Love" 1977 is E, G, D, A

@ArtbyPaulPetro

3 жыл бұрын

@@eubarhibssib3258 ah some sources said 77 some 76. and you're right not the chorus lol i'm getting old!

@MaggaraMarine

3 жыл бұрын

Same with Detroit Rock City that uses a minor tonic. That would actually be an earlier example of the progression with a minor tonic than Mad World, because Detroit Rock City was released in 1976.

'Jane' - Jefferson Starship, 1979.

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

White Rabbit was earlier and that fits too.

great video as always!

This is really interesting - I never noticed that certain songs use the same chords in the same order, yet are in different keys that completely change how you hear the chords (Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Pumped Up Kicks, for example) The whole-step relation between those key centers reminds me of how some rock songs seem to be in both Minor and the relative Mixolydian at the same time, such as Sweet Child of Mine which seems to switch tonics in the middle despite not changing what notes are in the scale

"Last week" and the relativity of time: This is KZread and these videos are going to be up for (presumably) years and so it is very likely that more people will see this video out of order from "last week's" video, immediately after the other video, years separated from the other, etc. so such references aren't really all that big of a deal. Those of us here and now might be confused but our compadres in the future will be "eh, whatever" about it.

“Plagal Cascade” is a good name for this progression. Great job!!!

@lastofthe4horsemen279

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't make up the name So good job introducing you to it is that what you mean?

I really enjoyed watching all the videos on lyrics and theory. I feel like I have a lot more understanding

Brilliant- had me inspired and smiling. Nice job for the quick minds! 😎💕🎵

This chord progression can also be heard in Jimi Hendrix's "Hey Joe"

@KevyNova

3 жыл бұрын

Not quite. “Hey Joe” (written by Billy Roberts) is C G D A E E E E, all major chords.

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagal Cascade, the Wise?

@steellemonstudios

3 жыл бұрын

He could actually... create... chord progressions?

@aaroncook4513

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooo some say he had the power to save the chord progressions he loved 😂😂

@steellemonstudios

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaroncook4513 Ha ha ha

@lzryd

2 жыл бұрын

The farce was strong even if his story has no major resolution. Chordially...

i've just realised how many songs i love use this chord progression and i guess i've always been unconsciously a fan of this one! its so cool to learn about new music theory concepts because it makes me more aware of why actually i like the songs i like and it makes mi feel very smart, lol

This is one of my favorite channels on KZread! Totally worth the patreon investment!

"when life gives you smash mouth" coffee spewing laugh...

You forgot "Jane" by Jefferson Starship (1979)!

I really appreciate your work.

I took music theory a very long time ago, but I remember thinking about the kinds of things that you are discussing. My thought was that chordal movement has to more to do with the environment around a chord rather than just it's placement in a static sequence. In other words, there are many possible "next" chords, and the possibilities are not bounded by fixed progressions but are instead influenced by "adjacencies". The current chord is "colored" by the chord before and the "next" chord's movement will be "colored" by this current chord instead of being aligned to a structured sequence. For instance, a Monet is more influenced by color and ambience at the expense of a sharply focused rendering based on a more formal scaffolding. Anyway, I am really enjoying this video!!

There are other progressions that are are unnamed that are actual good sounding unlike the pop 4 chords, please find them and explain them so I can die happy having those emotions, created from the specific progressions, explained

"I'm only human" *draws littol elephant*

I am The Doctor by Murray Gold's progression is Dm Bb C Gm. It seems to be stable starting on both Dm & Gm despite having the i, iv, & V of G minor

Nice. Much above my level of theory understanding at this point, but presented in such a way that I am able to grasp.

“Alive” by Pearl Jam uses this progression as well.

@Track-Tor

3 жыл бұрын

Not exactly since the E is major.

@MmadA-lg6ix

3 жыл бұрын

@@Track-Tor Well, they had an example in the video that did that too.

Can't wait for a teardown of IV-V-vi-I (bVI bVII i bIII), probably the most noticeable chord progression for me when I'm listening to video game music and metalcore.

@wareya

3 жыл бұрын

(one of the coolest things about this chord loop for me is how many songs with it end on a IV/bVI chord)

im happy this is free because ur channel is so good if i had the money i'd pay - its worth it. U have one of the best channels onKZread

As someone who plays guitar but knows not much of theory, I noticed this pattern in a bunch of songs (boulevard of broken dreams also comes to mind) yet never paid attention to it, just knew it was kinda there, thanks for the insight on it! Now I know how and why it works! Btw, big fan of your content, keep it up!!!

5:59 here again, and whenever you mentioned this in your other videos: i am absolutely unable to accept anything except the first version as correct. Am i the only one here?

"I....ohhhhhhh I'm still aliiiiive"

@simmme

3 жыл бұрын

That's the first song I thought of with this chord progression! Love Pearl Jam!

i really like you videos especially the ones you have been putting out the latest year or so, keep it up. also do you know when the next time you will be streaming GO or something on twitch ill imagine that's something i will want to watch as well

Yes, fascinating! I like your line of thinking. Thanks!!

This is one of my favorite progressions. Blue Rodeo used it tremendously in the chorus of "Hasn't Hit Me Yet", so I urge anyone to check that out.

00:06 this is how you get a copyright strike from, like, 80 million bands.

A long time ago, I played an online game called Ultimate Defense 2. In it, an intro chord progression played that went like this: G/D, D, Am/C, C. It works really well as a loop, and in fact, it's this exact progression, just beginning on the 3rd chord.

Perfect timing for what I’m working 😃 thanks 🙏

The chord loop in “Hello” by Adele is Em G D C

@NanoMan737400

3 жыл бұрын

Now that's interesting, since the chords being set up are D and C according to this loop theory, and D is the stronger one because of its position in the loop. I haven't heard the song, I wonder which chord actually feels like the root

“Doctor Love”

Super interesting. Keep making stuff like this

Great insight and video! It would be great to post those notes/drawings at PDF’s, so that I could purchase a few! The art is amazing!