I love how Ariana walked out of the finale. I love that she quoted a legal, accurate description of Tom’s betrayal of her health and welfare. Ariana’s actions bring home the severity of what Tom did to her so clearly that production had no valid response.

@DianaOsazenaye

2 ай бұрын

good for her

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

She's handled every situation with grace and did not back down from her boundaries. A true queen.

@tracim3080

2 ай бұрын

Although it does scare me how many people don’t understand what non-informed consent means 🥺😱

@AJ-yd4lp

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, she's empowered and informed when stating her position.

@sheynievovo

2 ай бұрын

@@DianaOsazenayeif used in iuuuuuù

I agree we don’t need La La on the show anymore…

Katie trusted Lala when she vented about Ariana…Lala and Scheana are NOT Katie or Ariana’s friend.

@verityfairbairn1571

2 ай бұрын

Who cares. When Katie ousted lala for not be real. She's got no room

@user-un7sg4ri5l

2 ай бұрын

@@verityfairbairn1571Katie is always loyal and real. She has EVERY room

@verityfairbairn1571

2 ай бұрын

@@user-un7sg4ri5l I disagree

@verityfairbairn1571

2 ай бұрын

@@user-un7sg4ri5l I disagree, like many others 🤷‍♀️

Lala needs to learn that strength doesn’t mean loud… there is more strength and authenticity in Ariana’s silence and holding on to her truth, living with solid, healthy boundaries than anyone else could hope to have

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

100 percent!!

When Katie tried to explain what Lala accused her of, Lala and the guys kept talking over her. Doing that until she loses her train of thought is a dirty fighting tactic.

@wackyjackie12

2 ай бұрын

Not good argument skills “Stassi voice”

Lala and Scheana are on the wrong side as per usual. But let’s focus on the men.

I’m so sick of Bravo shoving the Sandoval redemption arc down my throat. I don’t think I can sit through any more of these reunions that treat the viewers like idiots. The Bravo agenda is so obvious a 5 year old can see through it. Lisa is so disgusting, I can’t take any more of her misogyny.

@Des_10_ny

2 ай бұрын

That’s so true… totally agree 👍

@DianaOsazenaye

2 ай бұрын

they think the audience are fools

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

They really seem to underestimate the intelligence of the audience and our ability to catch onto fake or forced storylines. We've seen it with some housewives shows before but never thought we would with VPR. It's really disappointing that the men continue to get away with horrible behaviour and are held to a fraction of the standard the women are. We wanted the Spice Girls season not whatever this is!!

@the_glitter_is

2 ай бұрын

Also, his pool comment was so rape culturesque. Basically saying that he couldn't help himself because of her body. He needs to be sterilized.

@itelluwut4535

2 ай бұрын

Lisa loves the Tom’s, Lala, Scheena and Broke because they will do and say whatever she wants. They can easily be manipulated

What really annoys me about Lala is she’s always going on and on about how she’s so grown and wise but doesn’t understand that Katie could’ve been upset with Ariana in the moment and not want to ruin her friendship over it.

Lala is upset with Katie because she thought all the women would get together and bring down Ariana. She is so jealous of Ariana and she’s upset Katie didn’t do what she wanted. I used to really like Lala but, this season changed my mind.

Yeah well apparently nobody just likes Ariana. I find it funny that they’ll admit she has a bunch of fans but they won’t admit there’s a reason she has a bunch of fans, but they just keep saying she’s unlikable. She’s not very popular, but she has all the fans? 😂 their logic doesn’t math 😂

Thank you for your recap. I’m not watching any Bravo because I’m sick of them pushing a person like Sandoval down our throats. I think Adriana is being counseled by her therapist to take care of herself and watching the what happened this season would affect her negatively while she was on Broadway. She’s given enough to VPR. JMHO. Take care ladies ❤️

@tracim3080

2 ай бұрын

I am watching Ariana because I survived an abusive relationship and I like to see someone thriving after a toxic and actually quite a mentally abusive relationship. Even if they’re not aware that that’s what that was. I have known since season two watching this year did that was an abusive relationship same with James when he was dating Kristen Kristen was abusing the fuck out of him so I like seeing how James is now that he’s broken. His own cycle is stopping drinking he’s maturing. He’s looking at what used to be his role models, and realizing they are not people to be admired in the adjusting accordingly. It’s very healing to know that some of these people are moving on from the abusive patterns. It’s very triggering to see the ones who are refusing to, and cling onto the abusive mindset.

I totally get why Ariana didn’t watch any of the show before the reunion, she internalizes her trauma and puts on a brave face even though she’s hurting inside and I really do think she was protecting her mental wellness, good for her!! She did say that she saw clips here and there which were confusing, because she thought the girls were on her side, but by the end of the reunion, I think it becomes clear that two people being La Blah and Scheana are clearly not her friends, that’s why they are not talking to this day!!

@SuziSPSquirrel

2 ай бұрын

Scheana has always been it’s all about me. Throw Randall on next season and let’s see what a team player Lala really ls. Ariana was clear on her boundaries and never wavered. She had every right to walk out of the finale. Ariana was clear “Do you have anything to say before we never speak again?” Tom had hundreds of times to talk to Ariana…the fact that Tom and production wanted it on film is all we need to know. Tom has done nothing to redeem himself if anything he has doubled down. The audience doesn’t buy a redemption arc for Tom…he’s been telling us who he truly is on his podcast.

@energywellness8834

2 ай бұрын

@@SuziSPSquirrel well said!! 👏🏼

Lala: I ride so hard for Katie. 2 seconds later: Looking mad is her baseline.

@analizeth78

2 ай бұрын

So true, she's such a hypocrite. She doesn't know what a friend is hence what she does when she's not in a good place with these girls. She did it to Scheana last season. It's quite ridiculous.

I really dont get why Andy Cohen came out after filming the reunion hiw great Lala did this season being the voice of reason it makes no sense

Penny is not a good person, it was obvious in the baking show she was on. I think Penny was paying a finders fee to lisa.

@jerrir.8788

2 ай бұрын

The whole situation is shady AF. Chef Penny's business is as a chef consultant, exactly what she's done for LVP several times. Her actual ownership background was a pizza places from 2003-2008 (I think those dates are right). The girls paid her a consulting fee to help develop the menu and planned to retain her as back of house management. Makes one wonder how desperate she is in trying to steamroll the girls & take over a sandwich shop. 🤔

Trying to throw a wrench into people's very real relationships for television drama is next level TRASH.

@Shay416

2 ай бұрын

After you made a 💰bag off your "friend"

@msbrownsuga

2 ай бұрын

@@Shay416 Especially that!! Bought houses (yes plural) off of someone else's tears and a performative tiktok that was factually incorrect (Rachel was perfectly fine sending a notice to Lauren; there is no indication that Darrell would be the attorney for this type of matter nor would anyone reasonably expect Rachel to know personal attorneys).

The lawyers to therapist I took it as “you need to start investing in a therapist since you are always talking about your lawyers” I seriously doubt Katie intended a mocking lalas custody battle. Lala is unhinged

@msbrownsuga

2 ай бұрын

Lala and Sandoval play the same nasty games; two seconds later in her ranting Lala admitted that Katie was reacting to Lala cozying up to Scheana at the same time that Katie and Scheana were in a rough patch. Lala conflates issues and throws out an overbroad, often unrelated swipe at a person; only for it to be easily dismissed when the details are on the table.

I really wish throughout the reunion starting in part one that they would’ve shown clips of the Talking Heads of all the crap that was being talking about Ariana, so they could discuss throughout the reunion and then watch the last episode together on part three, that way it would’ve been very clear to Ariana what was going on! But then again, the producers were not on Ariana’s side this year and they were trying to do anything they could to make her look bad, too bad it didn’t work, it totally backfired !!

@msbrownsuga

2 ай бұрын

That would've been brilliant!

I think its gross that production tried so hard to redeem Tom , the guy is immature and just nasty ! Let him climb out of the hole he created. Stassi had to redeem herself !

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

Especially when he's shown us in real time/present day he has not changed in the slightest! It's so true about Stassi - they definitely didn't give any of the women the same storylines.

@h06anbjo

2 ай бұрын

As did Kristen...

LaLa did more flipping than IHOP...Its was really funny.. Why didn't she try out why Tom Sandoval could not say SORRY to any one

The only two bright cast members are Katie and Ariana. James grew up a lot and is quite successful.

Sorry, you are optimistic about Sheana, she’s never had an original thought. Lala and Tom will totally control Sheana. And by the way, Sheana, the stroke my ego and I’ll follow you anywhere girl, is also a liar. Remember she was married a year before she told anyone and then had a fake wedding.

Yes. Lala talks "be real," but she didn't confront Katie on-screen about her accusation that Katie was saying one thing offscteen and another on. And at the same time at the same time Lala was selling merch on podcasts 😊under the pretence she supported Ariana, she was trashing her on the show. Basically Lala was doing the same she insists Katie did.

Sandoval on WWHL w/ Jax took back his statements about Ariana hating her friends and talking shit sbout them...he said he was just angry in that moment.....so why does Sheana still believe it, I guess she doesn't watch her bestie

Lala was not soft at all. She was projecting because she has not healed. She knew targeting opposition in show would gain attention and make her more significant. I think everyone thought Ariana would leave and likely production encourage, to keep show going. With Katie and Ariana out new people could come or like now seems, cross over to ,Valley. Katie and Ariana grew up and overcome, as has James, still a work in progress. Schwartz, Sandy, and rest, lost any interest because of lack of integrity and they never grew, do not will to, they need the attention to feel good. Was rooting for Schena, but feel she lacks integrity having her self support of show mean more than friends who do now love her but now she has released. Not a happy end but sure was a great move walking out by Ariana. Priceless. All the rest showed their true colors in finaly, just a mess in my opinion. Valley is boring. LVP, I use to like, but what now I see,not a fan.Motherly if it suits her not those who she Mother's now. Happy for James and hope he keeps up with sobriety but gives up weed. Lala, I hope she is able to stay in her sobriety too, but she requires more healing and concered over her pregnancy. Schena, I empathasize but still do not trust Brock. Sandy, will be the same in years to come being, he has messed up his mind with all his drugs. He's just not present. He will abuse any who come close and those who in his circle now support him, will not put up with it as they grow and he stays Same. Katie, heal and love you not image of who you think you are or seek others to see. You got this with or without Ariana. Arianna be happy, let go of past and be the person who is true to you and if you and Dan stay together, be in peace together. If not, be in peace knowing you have overcome. Schwartz, find new and real friends who won't teach you how to be a user, but appreciate those who love for real and, give you a heart to love not a false image like Sandy to idolize. You have ability to break free, but it takes courage to release those who hold you back and learn to be authentic and true. Look to they who will be honest with you and not comfort you with lies. Soon no TV will be gained but for they who rely on this, much change comes. Find and be with those who love you for who you are not what they can gain from you. Much love to all.

Scheanerrr looks soo old.😢

I don’t think it’s even not putting her into that space bc she doesn’t want to. She was literally performing on broadway 8 shows a week!! She didn’t need fhay

Please, next year no Jo.

I think it’s funny no one is questioning Lala and Stassi’s friendship. Let’s be real, they would never be friends in real life. Stassi is good friends w/Jeremiah and Lala took that as an opportunity.

Ariana not watching the show is the best thing she can do for her mental health. Not only that, but lala was clearly trying to set up tension with the queen Ariana of the season for a storyline and for Ariana to be like so dismissive of it all, is Queen behavior. Lala and her embarrassing opinions are not worth her time!!! Ariana also already knows who her true friends are so watching confessionals and episodes is honestly pointless. Why drag yourself into a hole at the hands of people who don’t matter to you… esp when she’s on the up and up and up !

I love how we will catch lala saying little isms that she clearly thought of in the middle of the night and wrote in her notebook to save for later…. Something about her? More like NOTHING about her hahahHAHAAA yeah that’ll be a GOOD ONE - she literally said it three separate times on three different filming days and they used all three 😆

@deenikki9690

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Sandoval’s facial expression is evil now. He looks like he hates everyone and everything. You can see the same evil expressions in Kody Brown’s (sister wife’s) facial appearance.

Thanks ladies. I think you are right on,💯with your observations and predictions. ❤❤❤❤❤

Why does everyone always act like only women can be manipulated by men and men can't be manipulated by women. She knew what she was doing. Raquel knew what she was doing

Ariana has a Contract....😄😄😄 "She DO NOT HAVE TO DO THING AGIAST HER CONTRACT" How can you forgive anyone when they (Tom Sandoval) DONT even apologize for what they did, and think they can just walk in and think everything is okay.. what world is this person live in 🤔🌍🤔

It was Broadway they were talking about but now that you mention the timeline you’re right that means that conversation has to happen after they finished filming season 11 before filming the reunion so Katie is 100% right why the hell are they bringing that up? no wonder she’s confused. Because it wouldn’t be relevant to the season we’re watching, so lala was really grasping at straws, trying to make it look like people were mad at Ariana 🤦‍♀️💔

you guys are one of my fave channels for commentary on these shows - your conversations just naturally flow so flawlessly, it almost feels like i’m in the same room gossiping/venting about stuff with you both 💓

@therealcouchwives

7 күн бұрын

Omg thank you so much!! That is exactly the vibe we're going for, we're so happy you're enjoying it! Thanks for watching😍😍

Once again the victim. I love James. He should have sat next to Katie.

Tom Sandoval is like Charlie Sheen "winning" 🙄🙄🙄 no Tom you are not...

I think her not watching. Put her in a better position.. Cause LaLa was counting on her seeing it. in order to have a upper hand

I can't entirely blame Ariana for not watching given her role at the time. Plus they filmed in mid-March, so before even Easter. Halfway or so through the season I think. Seems like they did that on purpose to keep the narrative directed towards her not playing ball and Sandoval being hurt by all this too. There's a lot of questionable production decisions this year.

I wish producers would admit to their manipulations. At the reunion, Sandoval claimed the victim in trauma he inflicted weaponized suicidal ideation, but his suicidal ideation was in fact real. That claim alone should get him booted off the show. What we've seen is he's too small of a person, too limited in his scope of thinking, and has sociopathic tendencies in having no remorse and empathy for the person he hurt the most. I want him gone and I'm only a viewer.

Lala is duplicitous and Scheana is an opportunist. It’s not fun to watch.

Ariana has seen many clips , they watch them in the aftershow

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

Ohh that's true that's a good point - so she hopefully wasn't blindsided by Lala and Scheana

Lala land … a very trustworthy friend? 😉😉😉💰💰💰💰💰💰

I wish she would have watched too. I think she did it for her mental health. What does anyone else think????? 🎉🎉

They should have to watch the show when coming to a reunion. I mean Andy has to watch so many shows in order to do his job for the reunion. Maybe he gets a highlight reel, but he is still prepared. It was pretty wack

Lauren from Utah honestly sounds like a bag full of bullshit and contradictions. She’s bullshit because she swears up and down that Katie is being fake and Ariana is not a good friend but somehow, these are the two females (primarily Ariana) that has continuously come to her defense (ie being the new kid in sur, Randall relationship to name a few) and that has keeps it real with her when she’s coming out of the seams during her apparent “soft girl” era. And where she contradicts herself is when she’s consoling her friend (even crying 😭 with said friend) about a pretty devastating and very public breakup and how’s she handling it. Or forgiving another friend and being “over” whatever conflict they had either during or between seasons but still is lowkey mad. Honestly if you’re mad about something then STAY MAD 😡. Or at the very least, just act accordingly to those you’re having issues with. Idk what she think watching the finale and the reunion was gonna do regarding changing public opinions about Ariana but it’s not working

Lauren from Utah is so unserious, and I will continue to treat her "truth-seeking" as such. I'm struggling to think of any major vulnerability or insight about her own life that Lauren has shared willingly; most of what we know about her was because it was publicly known or exposed (see, e.g., all things related to Randall). Even her examples of people bearing their souls were of *other* castmates' situations. I've found Ariana to be incredibly vulnerable over the years, and I don't think any of us can ever know the truth of the Ariana/Tom relationship b/c the idea that they were "hiding things" and "not being honest" came specifically from Tom during his months-long campaign to paint Ariana as the distant, mean girlfriend. What I think the pro-"making TV" contingent wants from Ariana and Katie is theatrics, and that's just never been their style.

I’m confused, if anyone can help me out. Katie vented to Lala before the show started. Did we see Katie and Ariana address this in the season? I didn’t think so, so I understand why Lala brought it up. It was enough of an issue to vent to another off camera; but avoided filming it. That would annoy me as well.

I think if Ariana was leaving the show, it would have leaked

@therealcouchwives

2 ай бұрын

That’s true - she’d probably have a ton of bargaining power right now too with everything she has going on. She is thriving🥰🥰

This season was the worst!! Who put this together? Wasn't VPR this season....

I thought Ariana hadn't had time to watch all of the season given her Broadway schedule; her reasoning while understandable, was disappointing because now we won't get her full reaction or even a chance to see how others explain their haterade. Do we think production knew that Ariana hadn't watched anything yet and set up this group viewing on purpose to stir the pot? The timing for the reunion taping (pretty early it seemed to me but maybe not) and the lack of viewer questions were unusual, to say the least.

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

I disagree that the last few minutes of the. Reunion were necessary. Even if she did not give them the Emotional outbursts they wanted and so they were going to show those clips, Regardless if she had watched the season or not

VPR is almost certainly not going to get cancelled, the rating aren’t as big as they were last year but it’s still too big to cancel. Also in terms of Ariana not watching - they wouldn’t stop filming to get people to watch because that’s expensive and dramatic irony is a great story telling device. It does suck for Ariana personally though

I was really OFFENDED

Ariana definitely should have watched at least a compilation. Her explanation about not wanting to go back to that headspace does make sense to me though. I wonder if she suspected what was going on with her friends and sort of avoided it to extend how long she gets to pretend they’re there for her. 😢

@tracim3080

2 ай бұрын

Well, she did watch them for the after show.

@KristenNicoleYT

2 ай бұрын

@@tracim3080 I mean, we don’t really know what exactly they’re watching for the after show, if anything. The clips they show us in the edit are not necessarily shown to the cast. As far as I know, the producers just ask them questions and they answer.

@michaelathompson3310

2 ай бұрын

She explained it better on wwhl. Basically she was worried about what headspace it might put her in to relive that period and that that could make her do something stupid publicly like sound off on someone and that would hurt her career on broadway or other opportunities. I don’t think it had anything to do with the girls, it was probably about what Tom might have been doing on camera that she wasn’t aware of. And since she struggles with anxiety and depression she might’ve been protecting her ability to fulfil her broadway commitments

Giggle Twins

Can we please get rid of the Tom’s as main characters? They are mid at best.

Lala could be playing all sides..OR...Like a healthy adult she doesnt believe she has to take a side on a situation that is complex and involving the experience of various people... she can have empathy and understanding for all sides without dehumanizing one person and taking sides.

I’m sorry it has gone to Ariana especially the way she spoke to Swartz when Ty were at SF. Telling him to watch the way he talk about that Trash person. Swartz didn’t mean to RT to make Sandoval look good! She seemed fake. I’m glad Lawent after Katie! 👏👏bravo! Katie finally needs to put in place!

Well, she doesn’t need the VPR for LA She’s got love island that’s $1 million contract unlike Sheena and Lola Ariana only bought like a $1.3 million home and that’s before she gets her share of the one she owns with Tom She’s not in a financial hole She can afford that home without even factoring in the commercial deals, merchandising, something about her and Broadway

@maramash3196

2 ай бұрын

Ariana still has to pay the mortgage on their house while Tom gets to keep it for himself. Her payments are keeping him in the house which he can’t afford without her $$$

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@maramash3196Ariana should be paying because she hasn't paid anything on that house for a year now !!!

How did you feel about part 1 of the reunion?

@SuziSPSquirrel

2 ай бұрын

Lala is a clown she lost her shit when Schwartz played pickleball with Randall, but cannot understand Ariana’s stance? She did the same thing. Bring back Randall and see how much of a team player Bla Bla is. Hypocrite is what she is.

You know what's strange... Ariana, for many years, told Tom, "No Marriage, No Children, No Sex" while emasculating Tom a million times over. She didn't deny that she said she would take herself out if Tom broke up with her, the many times he tried. If a man did this to me and I had a colleague that gave me a shoulder, I would likely stray, as well. Ariana has been totally unrealistic and deserves some responsibility in their demise. Plus, you could possibly lose your mate the way you got them, like Tom cheating on Kristen with Ariana's consent. Plus Ariana has been boring all these years, she offered nothing, really. And, I definitely don't believe that she didn't catch some of the show and recieve pertinent info from, oh so angry, Katie.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Best comment on this page !!! Ariana and her games IMO just shows me just how manipulative and mean Ariana really is !!!

Have you guys been watching since the beginning? Cuz how do you not know how nasty Katie is? She would so say that to somebody about a custody battle and she hasn't had children yet so she thinks she knows everything

I can’t stand the Toms but you lose them how you get them. Arianna knew he was a cheater bc she cheated with him! The whole cast sleeps with each other. Including the women. Get over the Tom cheated things. It’s done,been done! It’s nothing new!

Katie is nobody’s friend, she’s all up in Ariana’s azz, because she’s all she has. I have never seen anyone so jealous of others like Katie does. Get off your high horse already Katie. 🤦‍♀️ Katie thinks she owns Tom let him live without you being pissed 😤.

Katie and Ariana have NEVER brought anything to the show NEVER !!! Why should everybody back Ariana because she dis this same exact thing Rachel did BUT ARIANA WAS WAY WORSE AND EVIL !!!!

Katie has NEVER been close to Lala so Katie must of really been over kissing Ariana's ass and Lala had every right to call Katie out because Karie sure would have done the same thing !!!!