Wax your chain - Simple & Cheap way

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  • @GregLanz
    @GregLanz Жыл бұрын

    I remember hearing about waxing chains way back in the 80's but it was your videos that I came across a few years ago and finally made the plunge and have never looked back. In terms of total time spent waxing the chain and never needing to de-grease the rest of the drive train I'm already far ahead and my chains and everything else lasts longer. Just tonight while I was working on other non bike tasks I plugged in my little crock pot and once up to temp I removed the chain, gave it a very quick clean and popped it into the wax. Once I was done my other chores I pulled the chain out, turned off the crock pot and re-installed the chain. The total amount spent on working on the chain once the wax was up to temp was at most 2 minutes and now I should be good for a couple weeks or more as it's been quite rainy here for Alberta Canada so I thought it was about time.

  • @ericderuffray5641
    @ericderuffray5641 Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing advice! I come back to your channel every now and then to discover your latest enhancements. I’ve been waxing my chains for a couple years now, and I love it! Thanks a lot for sharing.

  • @richardharker2775
    @richardharker27755 ай бұрын

    I watched your first video about waxing and tried it on and off without being a fan. Then the "absolute clean" chain before waxing made a difference but not totally convincing since a waxed chain ended up being a squeaky chain after a 100K dirt road ride. So I went back to oil. Then I found out the KMC chains I thought were good have a coating that wax doesn't adhere to so much. So then it was basic Shimano hg chain, clean, clean, clean and wax. Since I was setup for chain waxing I rewaxed every 3-4 weeks or after a couple of wet days. Nearly 8,000K's later the Park tool chain gauge dropped in at .75. Very impressed. Now a total convert primarily thanks to Steve and these videos.

  • @andyboxish4436

    @andyboxish4436

    2 ай бұрын

    I use KMC chains with wax and they work great for me

  • @richardharker2775

    @richardharker2775

    2 ай бұрын

    @@andyboxish4436 Certain KMC chains don't have it. I watched a video where a guy put coupled half a Shimano hg and KMC basic chain on his mtb. Using oil at that time the HG chain wore much faster. I still use KMC or YBN when I can get them.

  • @JayWye52

    @JayWye52

    8 күн бұрын

    brand new chains come with a lubricant/anti-rust coating,so you have to clean/degrease them before waxing the first time.

  • @letter2steve
    @letter2steveАй бұрын

    Hi Steven. I love your videos. Thanks for putting so much work into them. I've been waxing based on your advice since the Covid bike parts shortage. I'm amazed how hard of a sell it is to get people engaged in waxing. I'm still a strong advocate and will not give up. I really appreciate your constant updates to your process. Take care, Steve from Canada :-)

  • @Caesch37
    @Caesch376 ай бұрын

    Watched your video tutorial way back when on making and waxing chains and haven't looked back! Thank you and keep 'em coming. Enjoy your content Steve

  • @96golfcl
    @96golfcl Жыл бұрын

    Absolute hero to cyclist everywhere. I have no idea how I first ran into your original waxing video but following your advice changed everything. All my bikes, even my e-bike are on waxed chains. The non-greasy hands alone is a good enough benefit

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice to hear 🙂

  • @ianwilde1800

    @ianwilde1800

    Жыл бұрын

    i did exactly same mate tried it as experiment on vintage road bike id restored coz only 7 speed chain really cheap to replace and loved it so did it on mountain bikes too id never go back oiling chains now

  • @ianwilde1800

    @ianwilde1800

    Жыл бұрын

    id like know how it works on e bikes im just about buy bafang mid drive for specialized stumpjumper to use as commuter please respond let me know how it is

  • @96golfcl

    @96golfcl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ianwilde1800 yeah its the exact same process. It last much longer than 300km though since it depends how much you pedal.

  • @errbud

    @errbud

    11 ай бұрын

    This man is a complete scum bag and is no ‘hero’ of mine. He was convicted of kidnapping his neighbours dog before returning a few days later and murdering it. Disgusting excuse for a human being

  • @obfuscator
    @obfuscator Жыл бұрын

    Went waxing route years ago after watching your original video - never looked back, good stuff, thanks for sharing.

  • @endtimeslips4660
    @endtimeslips4660 Жыл бұрын

    the best YT tips. your video about waxing chain change my life. life become more simple.

  • @stephenpapadimitriou2066
    @stephenpapadimitriou2066 Жыл бұрын

    Love it! Just a few basic hand tools and a trip down to the local hardware store. Keep up the great work everyone should be waxing their chain love your videos

  • @thenige69
    @thenige69 Жыл бұрын

    I recently found your channel and love the fact that you are from South Australia and ride a lot of the roads that I used to ride and race on in the late 80s (formerly from Myponga). I used to wax my chains back then and am about to re-start waxing the chains of my bikes again. Thanks for the channel :)

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    You prolly know me from racing back then... I was in Holdfast Bay- Marion club. Our coach was Jim Nestor.

  • @trooperthatsall5250
    @trooperthatsall52506 ай бұрын

    UK checking in, use the "wet" method on a Brompton for a few years now and have not had any issues at all, works a treat - Many Thanks ~Trooper

  • @Suesses-Einhorn
    @Suesses-Einhorn11 ай бұрын

    Perfect video! I changed because of you and its a life (chain) saver. Also mixed graphite powder (very fine for lubrication) into it, it improves the performance threefold, especially in wet conditions (just rag your chain often and get it your room to dry). I put the waxchain into boiling water and swirl it around. I use wax melter like yours with a little water in the bottom and do a lot of chains in row. I use it for cables too, its the best. For bearings i mix up graphite with simple grease, they last! Instead of throwing the wax away you could scrape off the dirt on the bottom if it has settled down and became solid.

  • @ssenssel

    @ssenssel

    11 ай бұрын

    Could you help me by telling the ratio of paraffin and graphite powder? I don't want to use PTFE since is hard to get and very toxic. Thanks in advance.

  • @Suesses-Einhorn

    @Suesses-Einhorn

    11 ай бұрын

    Of course. You can put very much in it. When the wax is gone, the graphite will lubricate instead of the wax. The wax should stay liquid, because it has to get into the links. My guess is that 1/2 is ok, just see for yourself. You cant to much wrong here, just make sure you have very fine powder for lubrication purposes. Choose the finest powder available. If its flaky or something, its not fine enough.@@ssenssel

  • @JayWye52

    @JayWye52

    8 күн бұрын

    graphite or moly will be MESSY,touch the chain and you get black on your hands,or your clothes/socks,just like if the chain were greased or oiled. PTFE is much better.

  • @Suesses-Einhorn

    @Suesses-Einhorn

    7 күн бұрын

    @@JayWye52 its expensive and maybe harmful, graphite is not messy, i can touch the chain and its like wax, you can wipe it off, no problem

  • @user-zf8vf5tk8w
    @user-zf8vf5tk8w8 ай бұрын

    Thanx very much for Your explanation and the easy waxing stand you have constructed. What I changed from your recipe is that I heat up the cleaned chain with a heat gun before I put it into the hot wax, this reduces or avoids a temperature drop of the wax when you put in the chain that is much cooler than the wax itself. I believe that this helps penetration of the liquid wax into the small rollers of the chain and you don't have to leave the chain as long in the wax to make the wax penetrate everywhere. After taking out the waxed chain I hang it up and help again with the heat gun to let the wax penetrate and let drip off the excessive wax on the chain. Thanx again and keep on rolling. Kind regards from Switzerland!

  • @TC-hl1ws
    @TC-hl1ws Жыл бұрын

    I watched all of OZ's wax videos and love to see his evolution of recipes and techniques.

  • @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834

    @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834

    Жыл бұрын

    and me

  • @azamzain24

    @azamzain24

    Жыл бұрын

    And me😊

  • @KarlosEPM

    @KarlosEPM

    Жыл бұрын

    +1

  • @ItsAlive111

    @ItsAlive111

    10 ай бұрын

    Me too!

  • @stephenkennedy3020
    @stephenkennedy302010 ай бұрын

    This is great! I'm sold! Thank you for the lesson.

  • @jant_
    @jant_10 ай бұрын

    Such an educational video! The number one reason for me to wax is water pollution. A drop of mineral oil can contaminate 600-1000l of water. So all the nice shots of gravel riders going through rivers... well tens of thousands of liters contaminated. Same when going through heavy rain. Also lots of waste water when chain cleaning. So waxing in that regard is way better - and apparently saves the drive train as well.

  • @wittmf
    @wittmf4 ай бұрын

    Great instructional video!!! I also watched the other one that covers the making of liquid wax chain lube. Perfect!

  • @zukzworld
    @zukzworld Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video, and really loved the idea for making chain wax set up. 🙌🏾❤️✌🏾

  • @boblatkey7160
    @boblatkey7160 Жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid my dad raced motorcycles and this was my job 40 years ago. It was a lot of fun waxing the motorcycle chains.

  • @tobythum6065
    @tobythum606511 ай бұрын

    You have tempted me over to the dark side of waxing. great tip with the ebay beauty wax pot, only cost $19 inc postage

  • @christopherchin6341
    @christopherchin6341 Жыл бұрын

    Been using this formula for years. It works. Thanks OZ.

  • @allyp7
    @allyp76 ай бұрын

    just done this today for the first time. cant wait to get it on my new gravel build and have hassle free riding!

  • @johne7100
    @johne7100 Жыл бұрын

    I'm running two waxed chains, one on the bike and the other waiting to be waxed when I have the time. They've done >11,000 km between them and the stretch gauge still shows under 0.5%. The cassette, chain rings & derailleurs have done >11 thou as well and everything's running smoothly. At present I swap chains and re-lube every 700 km. I have run one chain up to 1000 just to see how it would go but over 950 it got rattly and the front derailleur got a bit cantankerous. Waxed according to your method, of course, for which many thanks. As an aside, I get my paraffin wax for nothing. Every year the village council distributes a nice thick candle to burn in a window on Christmas Eve. Might actually do that this year because the wax bath is full ATM.

  • @aitorbleda8267

    @aitorbleda8267

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here. Runs really well. I went back to oil on the commuter as rain is very common where I live.

  • @bucketofguts
    @bucketofguts Жыл бұрын

    I did this when oz first did his video. I have never looked back. Much obliged Mate!

  • @3866TIM
    @3866TIM10 ай бұрын

    Great advice! The only thing I have been doing different is not letting the chain cool off. I just install hot and let it cool as I run the chain through the gears on the stand ( or just ride around the driveway for the few minutes it takes to cool. Much more to the point. It can be a hassle to thread the chain through the rear derailleur so next time I plan on installing an old chain first without the master link and then just hook up the hot chain to the old chain and just pull it through.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Good idea but the problem is by doing this the wax barrier between the metal sliding surfaces will thin out. This reduces the usability between rewaxing.

  • @cebruthius

    @cebruthius

    9 ай бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue It thins out anyway while riding

  • @LarryGraham7
    @LarryGraham7 Жыл бұрын

    That was a cool bush bike at the end. I'm going to try the paraffin & Graphite method soon, we'll see how it goes. Thank you & Cheers.

  • @ianwilde1800
    @ianwilde1800 Жыл бұрын

    love waxing followed your first vid on waxing iv waxed all my chains ever since thank you for your info and if people say its not water resistant i live in wettest part uk and it works great on my road bike and my mountain bikes

  • @gmadeley1
    @gmadeley15 ай бұрын

    This is a great video. You explain the process very well. I just made my first attempt and it went well except my pot only got up to 70C. The PTFE feels very slippery

  • @ssenssel
    @ssenssel11 ай бұрын

    Great video. Imma wax all my chains. Even non bikes ones.. Cheers from Brazil! 🚲🚲💛💛💚💚

  • @dereksmith3643
    @dereksmith3643 Жыл бұрын

    I had researched various chain lubes and decided waxing was the way to go. The first time I tried it it was a very lumpy mass until I found your original video about adding paraffin to thin down the mixture. Your latest video with the waxing stand and chain hanger is going to be an excellent improvement to wrestling with a full length chain while trying to hang it up. Thank you.

  • @triathleteover5030
    @triathleteover5030 Жыл бұрын

    I’m using his recipe for more than 2 years. I’m happy with the performance of my drive train. Though I’m planning to go back using oil lubes due to availability of ingredients and weekly preparations.

  • @andyryalls
    @andyryalls4 ай бұрын

    Thanks Steve for the testing and advice since your first video Ive never looked back , Trial and tested ,,,,,,,waxing is the way Thanks for such good info and videos.

  • @David-kf4pt
    @David-kf4pt Жыл бұрын

    Steve, I want to congrat you for the amazing job you've done through all these years for all cycling enthusiasts around the globe (I'm from Portugal :D).

  • @bitchoflivingblah

    @bitchoflivingblah

    Жыл бұрын

    ditto: wales, uk

  • @David-kf4pt

    @David-kf4pt

    Жыл бұрын

    Btw, Steve, the formula for the wet wax is Paraffin + PTFE + Paraffin oil? Or is it Paraffin + PTFE + Benzine (because I can't find Shellite in Europe). ?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Paraffin wax , ptfe , Paraffin oil

  • @neta1538
    @neta15387 ай бұрын

    thank you so much for the great Video. I’m starting to wax as well and i found great tips! Greetings from Germany.

  • @eternoaprendiz10
    @eternoaprendiz1010 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I’ll also gone use this tech for lubeing my cnc trapezoidal thread screw.

  • @PineappleMonkey
    @PineappleMonkey Жыл бұрын

    After seeing your videos a few years ago and doing it. I can say this process is still the best for all the advantages you've said!

  • @nafisadnan2280
    @nafisadnan2280 Жыл бұрын

    Sir, you were the inspection, once I've done it, I can never go back to the oils again. I never been faster nor smoother, people who hasn't experienced it yet won't know what are they missing out.

  • @PeterSdrolias
    @PeterSdrolias11 ай бұрын

    You’ve sold me. Gonna give this a shot!

  • @jugglematt100
    @jugglematt100 Жыл бұрын

    Im a convert , i have been using this method for a couple of years now and never looked back. Im currently running 3x chains and waxing them as a bundle . My idea is using cycling through the 3 chains will give even wear on the chains and cassette , and at the end of the chains life it will be time for a new cassette .

  • @ThomasSmithTechArtist
    @ThomasSmithTechArtist Жыл бұрын

    I learnt how to do this from the old OZCycle video. its great, really recommend anyone thinking about doing it to make the switch

  • @kostais
    @kostais Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. More hints that make waxing an easy process.

  • @thierrylerinckx1340
    @thierrylerinckx1340 Жыл бұрын

    Steve, you are a legend ! I started waxing shortly after your first KZread posts a few years back and never looked back. I have 2 chains per bike that I swap which helps to do it more frequently, especially every time after a wet or muddy ride (mountain bike, road or gravel bike alike). I can't find Connex links for 12 speed chains though... Also great tip about reducing the proportion of PTFE after the initial batch, the learning never stops 👌👍. Many many thanks from Belgium!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Connex have not started making 12speed links yet....hopefully soon

  • @PhilJohn1980

    @PhilJohn1980

    9 ай бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue they seem to be available on Amazon now FYI!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    9 ай бұрын

    Not ready for shipment till April 2024 tho.

  • @Jarek.
    @Jarek. Жыл бұрын

    I truly admire your engagement in something such unimportant as chain waxing 🙂 No sarcasm here, I have converted recently and enjoying clean chain in my bike. And whole hassle in preparations? Well, it turned into a kind of ritual every other week (as I wax and rotate two chains). Cheers 👍

  • @KarlosEPM

    @KarlosEPM

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone who ends up here is a devoted hobby-ist. We're all about the minute details, and waxing is the cherry on top of all of them :D

  • @Dee-Ell

    @Dee-Ell

    Жыл бұрын

    His whole procedure is too much. You can simply it by a lot.

  • @janatlmb2770
    @janatlmb27704 ай бұрын

    Simple and super good. Never done that. Will try as the season is starting today for me 😂

  • @GHinWI
    @GHinWI10 ай бұрын

    For a water-resistant chain, you can add engine oil to the paraffin in different proportions; they’re completely miscible. This is the old-school recipe that goes back to the 1990’s (we used double boilers then because these excellent cheap crock pots didn’t exist). Dry paraffin just doesn’t cut it in terms of corrosion protection in my conditions. I use engine additive oil (sold under her brand name “STP” here in the US)-this product contains a high dose of ZDDP (zinc dithiophosphate), which is an anti-wear oil additive used to reduce wear on the engine timing chain, etc. ZDDP reacts with the steel surface to produce a phosphate tribofilm on the wear surfaces. To make the wax more tacky so it makes a film on the outside of the chain, add a small amount of beeswax.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Oil attracts dirt. Bees wax introduces high stiction.

  • @Juzujka
    @Juzujka11 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Add PTFE is interesting idea! Also, beeswax can be added to improve adhesion. The missing link also needs to be lubricated. I do this after the chain is put on, I dip part of the chain with the lock into a cup with melted paraffin.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    11 ай бұрын

    Bees wax presents a lot of stiction compared to paraffin. No need to wax the removable link but you can if you want.

  • @Steve-jo3cl
    @Steve-jo3cl Жыл бұрын

    Absolute legend steve !!!

  • @bigwave_dave8468
    @bigwave_dave8468 Жыл бұрын

    Love it! great tips!

  • @--KAS--
    @--KAS-- Жыл бұрын

    after I started use wax, my chain lasts a lot, now it has more than 15,000km and still good, I use this last wax cooker, very supper mega ultra power.😃😁😎🥳🤠👍👍👍

  • @RayStrilec
    @RayStrilec5 ай бұрын

    Having made a liquid wax lubricant to use in between hot vat waxing, I find that the liquid congeals in the bottle at colder temperatures. That can be a problem in the winters here in Northeast US. My solution is to put the bottle in a container with warm water, occasionally shaking it till the liquid thins and flows easily. However, when applying the warm liquid to a cold chain it causes the wax to harden on the chain, so my solution for that is to warm the chain using a hair dryer before applying the liquid. Experimenting with temperatures, you'll find you can get the wax to flow into the rollers before setting up. The cooler temps can actually work in your favor. Thanks for all your waxing tips!

  • @mr.z2618
    @mr.z26185 ай бұрын

    one advice, you can skip slow cooker. Just use jar with wax and immerse, half of it in the boiling water. Then when melted put chain into jar.Wax melting temp is around 80C. This way you don't contaminate any kitchen dishes and you don't need slow cooker.

  • @JayWye52
    @JayWye528 күн бұрын

    just a FYI,but paraffin oil is kerosene,and it contains a small amount of paraffin wax. mechanics use kerosene to clean their tools because it leaves a waxy film that prevents rust. BTW,WD-40 is mostly dewaxed kerosene. (I checked the MSDS) so no lubricating film after the volatiles evaporate. Paraffin is a byproduct of petroleum refining.

  • @JP-nx2wr
    @JP-nx2wr10 ай бұрын

    Hi Steven, I'm subscribed to your KZread channel and watching all your bike videos. thank you so much for all your DIY videos especially the ones on making your own chain waxes as the good factory waxes plus shipping, duties, taxes is way more then I can afford in retirement. I made the switch to chain waxing last night following all your great video info. My question is how do you remove the wax from the pan after it cools? I used one of my wife's 2.5 ltr casserole bowl and would like to keep in her good graces by cleaning out her bowl 😅 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Steven and hope you keep up the great work you have been doing for many years to come JP

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad you like the vids 😁. You can pour out then wipe with paper towel the bowl whilst it's hot. Or if the bowl separates from the cooker turn it upside-down and give it a few bashes on a rag or towel whilst bowl is cold.

  • @AndrewJames-ms3wi
    @AndrewJames-ms3wi Жыл бұрын

    Every time I watch these videos I think, «nah, it’s too much fuss!! » and every time I clean my chain I think, « I’m really going to have to wax this thing!!! »😂😂

  • @My_HandleIs_

    @My_HandleIs_

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I still think it is way too much hassle with hot wax I have tried the Squirt liquid wax. You clean your chain really well (start with a new and clean it is recommended). Then apply the Squirt onto the chain . Looks like watery milk. Let it dry for a few hours. Apply once more. Let it dry. Go ride! I have used it for a few weeks now, seems to work well. Easy to reapply (I wipe off with baby-wetwipes and hose it well. Boiling water may also work?) Then just two layers as above while Chain still on the bike… I hope the wear is fine, time will tell. The drivetrain has never been this clean before!

  • @robsonzoccoli
    @robsonzoccoli Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the tips I will do exactly as you say!!

  • @monkeezorg

    @monkeezorg

    Жыл бұрын

    Avoid the use of PTFE if you can - it's a well known pollutant.

  • @KarlosEPM
    @KarlosEPM Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all of your maintenance videos. Keeping chains waxed has allowed me to find much fewer excuses to go out riding on any weather. Cheers!

  • @FatherGorgony
    @FatherGorgony11 ай бұрын

    Six months ago I switched like a bee to wax. Yes, the chain looks like from a store, it doesn't get dirty BUT it wouldn't hurt to compare the resistance and friction on Shimano on oil with the same performance on wax. In the heat or at professional speeds, probably even cold-pressed olive oil :-) It will not give advantages, but in the cold with oil you will see less friction. We need an experiment that is blind and randomized😊

  • @neutronpcxt372

    @neutronpcxt372

    11 ай бұрын

    The fastest lubricants are chain waxes and very high end wax lubes.

  • @Liofa73
    @Liofa73 Жыл бұрын

    I think the chain and drivetrain are in such good condition after all those km is that the bike is ridden in dry aussie conditions on nice roads. Unlike here in the UK where country roads have all manner of junk and we ride 12 months of the year! The conditions are a big factor. But I like the video! :)

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    We have wet winters here in southern Australia.

  • @GrantAmann
    @GrantAmann10 ай бұрын

    always grateful for more content. I've been waxing from your videos for about a year now, but I just did a triathlon that was super rainy during the bike portion and had to throw my bike in my car for awhile while driving home. After pulling my bike out of my car, I noticed some slight rusting on my chain. Any tips on how to clean this rust off without having to do a full chemical clean or should I do a full clean and rewax?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    The rust will be superficial so carry on with boiling water and rewax. If you want to completely get rid of the rust use a rust removal chemical ,rinse with water then rewax.

  • @3888Orbost

    @3888Orbost

    9 ай бұрын

    I had the same problem - I just scrubbed off the rust with a green nylon scourer, rinsed chain well with boiling water then rewaxed. I’d be reluctant to use a rust removal chemical due to the potential to cause hydrogen embrittlement to the chain links- breaking a (weakened) chain under power is not fun.

  • @junomaxzoey5146
    @junomaxzoey51469 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this very informative video.

  • @nabanitus
    @nabanitus Жыл бұрын

    I love it!

  • @Glendram
    @Glendram Жыл бұрын

    Followed your instructions Steve and it has been fantastic. Very smooth and quiet drive train however i am having rust spots appearing on my chains. Mixed up a batch with some paraffin oil today, see how that goes. Also applying the liquid mix often to maintain the exposed surfaces might help ? Been a couple of years but still learning, could never go back to a sticky black chain 😱

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    After riding in wet conditions quickly dry chain off with rag before storing your bike. This should stop the rust.

  • @Glendram

    @Glendram

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue Thanks Steve, I have never done that but I will in future.

  • @profpogi

    @profpogi

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue Or, better, dry it off with a blower? :) Would a silicone spray affect the wax? Back when I haven't heard of chain waxing, we used silicone spray after drying washed chains prior to storing to protect against moisture, and we applied lube the night before the next ride. I'm wondering if I can spray it on the waxed chain after a ride (and after wiping off some superficial dirt). What are your thoughts on this?

  • @arcboutant
    @arcboutant Жыл бұрын

    Been using your wax/PTFE suggestion for a while now and it WORKS,but, using that wax heater is a brilliant idea ,simpler,easier,cleaner. Great idea.

  • @monkeezorg

    @monkeezorg

    Жыл бұрын

    PTFE is a well known pollutant and you should try to avoid using it.

  • @somerton123
    @somerton1232 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your tips and advice legend!

  • @aureliobruno6491
    @aureliobruno6491 Жыл бұрын

    Sensational. I started doing it some time ago and since then I only use this wax on my bicycle chains. This smaller pot idea is very interesting, but I keep making it in a larger pot using twice the amount and with that I can make at least 2 chains at a time. Last but not least I have a question: In the video "Ultimate Chain wax - make it yourself", you instruct us to keep the chain for 15 minutes in the wax and now you instruct us to keep it for 30 minutes. How long does it take to lubricate the chain anyway? Once again, congratulations on your work and thank you for sharing with us. From Brazil, Aurelio

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Immerse until no more bubbles come out of the chain.

  • @danhasnedl_CZ
    @danhasnedl_CZ11 ай бұрын

    I am using this method for some time now and I am strugling with lubricating direarioul wheels and avoiding contamination of the chain at the same time.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    11 ай бұрын

    Remove jockey wheels to service them then reinstall.

  • @PaulioMaldinio
    @PaulioMaldinio Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these videos

  • @event4216
    @event4216 Жыл бұрын

    Exhaustive guide on how to come over to Wax Side! If I'd be running those $50+ chains I'd definitely join you. Otherwise, I just comfort myself putting oil drops on rollers instead of updating diary with "July 28, 2023 and I'm addicted to bikes, cycling and stuff".

  • @jarrykentlampasa3389
    @jarrykentlampasa33899 ай бұрын

    Thank you verry much for sharing this!

  • @nedt
    @nedt Жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Thankyou

  • @raOdhiOnal
    @raOdhiOnal10 ай бұрын

    i appreciate all the effort you are making this tuttorial and edit the video, but when i hear i need to rewax each 300km ride, basically every 2 weeks i need to redo all these process. looks like a lot work. but i've been enjoying all your videos! THIS CHANNEL ARE GREAT!!!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Rewax is just rinse with hot water and put in hot wax.

  • @donavinnezar
    @donavinnezar11 ай бұрын

    Ive been using a 15 year old can of castrol moto chain wax , chain still feels great shifting is great evwn after about 4 months of commuting Ill try a proper wax someday soon , after gettig all the tools needed to properly disasemnley drivetrain

  • @atozlemm7803

    @atozlemm7803

    10 ай бұрын

    Oil is a mess

  • @morneauh
    @morneauh11 ай бұрын

    Added benefit, no dirty hands when fixing a rear flat tire.

  • @mortendidriksen1253
    @mortendidriksen125310 ай бұрын

    Very good and instructive video 😊

  • @HoshinoMirai
    @HoshinoMirai11 ай бұрын

    Consider me convinced. I will wax my chain now.

  • @juiceofsapho
    @juiceofsapho Жыл бұрын

    I am a believer in chain waxing, and did use your method (parafin mixed with ptfe) initially. However, I had some problems with corrosion on the chain after occasionally riding in wet conditions. Now I am using the MSW which is marginally dirtier, but overall provides better corrosion protection and is more durable, you don't need to wax it as often.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    If riding in consistently wet conditions add paraffin oil to the wax at 1:1. This prevents corrosion.

  • @leonlowenstadter9223

    @leonlowenstadter9223

    11 ай бұрын

    What would MSW be? Being from Germany, I appreciate a little explanation for a non-native speaker...

  • @juiceofsapho

    @juiceofsapho

    11 ай бұрын

    @@leonlowenstadter9223 Molten speed wax... There are others of course that have good reputation, ie Silca secret chain etc

  • @beardfu979

    @beardfu979

    11 ай бұрын

    @@leonlowenstadter9223I believe it is referring to Molten Speed Wax

  • @3888Orbost

    @3888Orbost

    9 ай бұрын

    @@leonlowenstadter9223 Molten Speed Wax - a commercially available chain wax

  • @antonydevine8950
    @antonydevine89507 ай бұрын

    Great video so easy to follow your instructions, if using parrafin to make a wet lube do you still need to add the PTFE ? and will it attract dirt like wet lubes do?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    7 ай бұрын

    Any wax lube is more efficient with an additive like ptfe. This lube does not attract dirt as its carrier completely evaporates leaving just the wax.

  • @rivnuts7398
    @rivnuts7398 Жыл бұрын

    An old fondue pot that was used to melt cheese works well also.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Good one 👍

  • @keithallen4313
    @keithallen4313 Жыл бұрын

    How much time does the wax pot you used take to heat the wax up. Very good video.

  • @peppermintpig974

    @peppermintpig974

    Жыл бұрын

    It really depends on the ambient temperature and how thick your wax is. Some people buy wax in large ingots, others buy candle sticks.

  • @mickp10
    @mickp10 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the waxing videos. My chains have never been quieter, and smoother gear changes.

  • @TheTurnerturner
    @TheTurnerturner Жыл бұрын

    Had my first ride last week on my waxed chain. Used the wax heater and it worked a treat. Do you know if the quick links you use can be used on SRAM flat top 12 speed chains?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Connex do not produce the 12speed yet. When they do , yes it should work with the flat top SRAM chains.

  • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
    @SamuelBlackMetalRiderАй бұрын

    Gotta love the 💯 % D.I.Y. approach!!

  • @adyjclarke
    @adyjclarke Жыл бұрын

    This vid popped up while my chain is in a Pro-Wax 100 wax melter, bought off eBay 😂

  • @eugenegolubenko
    @eugenegolubenko Жыл бұрын

    OMG! Man! Awsome!

  • @CodSlap
    @CodSlap Жыл бұрын

    A beautiful setup! ❤ For an indoor bike, that approach would be a no-brainer: stays clean, easy to clean, and to dispose of properly. For outdoor use, I’m not a fan of wax personally, though. Solid paraffin wax is petroleum-based, and in its solid form does not biodegrade, unless I’m mistaken. PTFE - or Teflon - doesn’t either. It also tends to bioaccumulate in nature, meaning it has a compounding effect wherever it’s shed, and the human body is no different: PTFE is linked to reproductive cancers and similiar stuff. It’s not really something I’d like to get as fine particulate in my own system, so I try not to introduce it to others either. When I was younger, I didn’t really care about these things, but now that I’m retired and as I grow older, I find that I think more and more of what I leave behind. I mostly like to ride forest paths, and on gravel near waterways and lakes, and I try to leave those places as pristine as I can. Steel and fully biodegradable wet lube on my outdoors / daily driver bike, nowadays. Oh, and thanks for showing that beauty-cooker wax melting pot thingy: that’s a genius idea! 😊

  • @event4216

    @event4216

    Жыл бұрын

    For indoor use wax doesn't make as much sense as outdoors - specks of it will fly all over floor around bike and will need to be cleaned up. Outdoors we just don't notice wax left behind. Lubed chain indoors usually isn't subjected to sand and mud thus it will never get dirty (at least, not SO dirty) and grind itself like outdoors.

  • @neutronpcxt372

    @neutronpcxt372

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have the budget, you could always use a natural hard wax.

  • @CodSlap

    @CodSlap

    Жыл бұрын

    @@neutronpcxt372 Hey, you’re right, if it at all behaves in the same way. If you’d then replace the PTFE additive with something more natural like graphite (pencil ’lead’), you could make a fully environment-friendly version of Oz’ wax. Good tip! Mr. Oz - possible idea for a new video? 🙂

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    We tried graphite. 1/ Chain life good but not as long as ptfe. 2/ leaves grey marks on whatever it contacts

  • @leonlowenstadter9223

    @leonlowenstadter9223

    11 ай бұрын

    Have you ever tried bee wax? I guess you can't get a more natural wax. By the way, what's the problem when using just wax?

  • @Suchen_Wahrheit
    @Suchen_Wahrheit Жыл бұрын

    I waxed my chain after seeing you video. Thank you so much. The chain is butter smooth now. But I just couldn't get the liquid wax lube correct. 😅

  • @My_HandleIs_

    @My_HandleIs_

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I still think it is way too much hassle with hot wax I have tried the Squirt liquid wax. You clean your chain really well (start with a new and clean it is recommended). Then apply the Squirt onto the chain . Looks like watery milk. Let it dry for a few hours. Apply once more. Let it dry. Go ride! I have used it for a few weeks now, seems to work well. Easy to reapply (I wipe off with baby-wetwipes and hose it well. Boiling water may also work?) Then just two layers as above while Chain still on the bike… I hope the wear is fine, time will tell. The drivetrain has never been this clean before!

  • @Suchen_Wahrheit

    @Suchen_Wahrheit

    Жыл бұрын

    @@My_HandleIs_ its expensive for me. That's why I am trying to make my own liquid wax. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Suchen_Wahrheit

    @Suchen_Wahrheit

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@My_HandleIs_I am bike Kurier. I am waxing every week😂. And my crappy using liquid wax. I chose acetone instead of xylene. Bad choice😂.

  • @JayWye52
    @JayWye528 күн бұрын

    I bought a small $10 crockpot from Walmart,and they sell a 16 ox block of paraffin wax for canning for $5.

  • @arcboutant
    @arcboutant Жыл бұрын

    I’ll be utilising my Dremel drill stand (base and upright) and a wire coat hanger doubled up.

  • @mythos14
    @mythos14 Жыл бұрын

    nice one, good speedy update of ur older videos! if we hang up the chain 95° hot, isnt there the chance that the wax is running off too much?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    You can take it out at a lower temperature but doesn't seem to make much difference with performance. If riding in wet muddy conditions it would be good to take it out at lower temperature to retain more wax on the outside of the chain.

  • @jshdc
    @jshdc10 ай бұрын

    I've been chain waxing since I watched one of your first videos years ago. Great videos through the years. One thing I'm a bit confused on is the ptfe... following the initial dip, are you adding 3g to replenish the existing paraffin? Or are you making an entirely new batch? Discarding the original batch after only one dip?

  • @profpogi

    @profpogi

    10 ай бұрын

    New batch. Use 20:1 ratio for the initial dip (first waxing session of a chain). The 80:1 ratio (3g PTFE) is used for the succeeding waxing sessions/batches of the same chain/s (rewaxing).

  • @JohnJez
    @JohnJez Жыл бұрын

    Hi Oz, amazing video as usual! The waterproof wax, with paraffin, have you got any alternative to paraffin? Also, does it get more dirt sticking to it compared to uiur normal mix? Thanks, Alex

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Wax is waterproof by nature. By adding paraffin oil to the wax it becomes a wet lube...better for riding in wet conditions. Without paraffin oil it attracts almost no dirt.

  • @robertandersson2523

    @robertandersson2523

    Жыл бұрын

    I should worry more about ptfe

  • @peppermintpig974
    @peppermintpig974 Жыл бұрын

    I like the upgrade here. Now we need the assembly line version of this where multiple chains are processed and hung. XD Great video as always. I still think it's better to boil water and rinse the chain before re-applying wax so you can get more uses from the wax. One of my DIY upgrades was bending a spoke to create a custom digital candy thermometer holder that grips the edge of the crock pot. If interested I can send a link for a photo of that.

  • @mcndjxlefnd

    @mcndjxlefnd

    Жыл бұрын

    Any time I use water of any kind on my chain it rusts. Is there any way around this?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Dry the chain as soon as possible. To help prevent chain corrosion add paraffin oil to your wax mix

  • @MikeKolcun

    @MikeKolcun

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you target 95-100 C for the whole waxing process?

  • @mattfoley6082

    @mattfoley6082

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mcndjxlefnd I agree. I washed my chain with water and got rust within 2 or 3 minutes plus chain developed cracks. On next ride the chain broke.

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm Жыл бұрын

    I use Silca Super Secret chain wax with their drip wax between hot wax treatments. As it's more pricey than paraffin candles, I want it to last as long as possible. So before each hot wax treatment, I put my chain in a jar of 100% rubbing alcohol and shake, shake, shake, and shake. This does remove more of the old wax from inside the rollers, but no matter. The hot wax treatment completely replenishes that lost wax. The big advantage of this method is it removes MUCH MORE dirt and debris from the chain, preventing it from contaminating my Wax. I get an incredible number of hot wax treatments out of each bag of Silca Hot Wax this way making it a very cost effective way to wax my chains.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Good suggestion 👌. IPA in some countries is expensive though.

  • @T.Mitcbree
    @T.Mitcbree Жыл бұрын

    When using the DIY paraffin wet wax, it tends to leave a bit of dirt gum. How often should you change that out during the wet season. Presently I wipe the chain to dry and clean after every ride and reapply with your DIY bottle mix every ride for 300 km then redip? Or should I go through the strip and clean again every 300. Only during Winter riding this is.

  • @Panfleto89
    @Panfleto89Ай бұрын

    Great video. You were the first video I watched about waxing chains a couple of years ago, but I just now started waxing my chain. I also bought a small wax melting pot for a fraction of "Bicycle" specific pots. Question, if you clean the chain with boiling water before you re-wax it, would it still turn the wax black?

  • @ralfw.3009
    @ralfw.3009 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Oz and big thx for keeping us Up to date with good information. I'm using a waxed Chain according your recommondation and Like it very much. Have you heard about the PTFE discussion from eg the European Union which might lead to an import Block. So nevertheless if it make sence but in case it will get blocked, can you recommend an alternative? Thx

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Working on it. Unfortunately ptfe is such an amazingly low friction substance it's hard to ignore, especially in this competitive cycling scene.

  • @monkeezorg

    @monkeezorg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue PTFE is a well known pollutant - so you should avoid using it.

  • @PavelBarbanegra
    @PavelBarbanegra Жыл бұрын

    Sweet video! I understand how to clean the chain and jockey wheels, but how do I go about cleaning the cassette and chainrings? Do I take them off`f the bike?

  • @zyghom

    @zyghom

    Жыл бұрын

    on one of the videos he showed it: boil the water and pure on the cassette while spinning and brush it (if I remember correctly) - same with the crank

  • @PavelBarbanegra

    @PavelBarbanegra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zyghom Thanks a lot!

  • @dreddnada9279
    @dreddnada927910 ай бұрын

    Hello ! Just found your channel, i've been binge watching yours videos, especially about waxing cause i'm really tempted to change my complete drivetrain and start using wax :) Yours videos are really completes and you convinced me to start waxing my chain. Now i've some questions :) i'm not a road biker, i'm riding an MTB and i do 50% road and 50 % enduro ( trails and fields ) When i'm done riding, my bike is almost always covered in mud, dirt, sand and dust and i try to rince and clean it off as soon as i can ( after 2 / 3 rides most of the time cause i don't have time to do it each time ) Will i be able to clean my bike the same way ( using a hose to wet my bike and clean most of the dirt, and after using a sponge/brush and soap to clean my frame and drivetrain ) if i use waxed chain ? Can i brush my Cassette and my Rear derailleur with soap/degreaser ? same for the chain ? or will it wear off the wax ? Thanks in advance if you take the time to answer me ( or if anyone answers me ^^ ) A young rider from France ! Ps : you gain a new subscriber :)

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi and welcome. Yes you can clean your bike as you would normall, but you want need to clean the drivetrain as wax attracts almost no dirt. Spray rear sprockets and chainrings with 'wax n grease remover' and water rinse every 500km should be enough.

  • @dreddnada9279

    @dreddnada9279

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue Thanks for your answer. So what you're saying is that i won't really need to clean my drivetrain often because of the wax ? What should i do if water and/or degreaser are going to my chainring/cassette/Rderaileur while i clean my bike ? just leave it dry without do anything ?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    10 ай бұрын

    Yep. Just wash as usual and let dry. You will get the hang of it , it's a lot simpler than oil n dirt going everywhere

  • @user-qy4kr8ez4s
    @user-qy4kr8ez4s5 ай бұрын

    Very informative and nicely done video. Has anyone used boric acid as additive? It's also used as solid lubricant.

  • @erhan6095
    @erhan6095 Жыл бұрын

    If you don't have a garage or garden, chain and drivetrain cleaning is tiring and makes you an enemy in front of your wife. Thanks for the sharing.