Wax your chain anywhere - make it yourself

This is a liquid wax you can bottle for easy transport.
Shellite equivalents.... benzine ,ligroin, petroleum ether ,white gasoline.

Пікірлер: 835

  • @ClaviculaNotoria
    @ClaviculaNotoria Жыл бұрын

    The wife is angry I melted all the candles but the chain is happy, life goals met

  • @stephengomme777

    @stephengomme777

    6 ай бұрын

    Hopefully no power cuts anytime soon 😅

  • @RichardsWorld

    @RichardsWorld

    4 ай бұрын

    Happy bike, happy husband.

  • @michaelmerrills576

    @michaelmerrills576

    3 ай бұрын

    But it was for her bike!!!

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. If anyone in the EU is looking for Naphta or Shellite, lighter fluid or washing benzin is the same thing.

  • @crabtrap

    @crabtrap

    11 ай бұрын

    also known as 'panel wipe' and 'camp fuel'

  • @unaluv88

    @unaluv88

    20 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @paulb9769

    @paulb9769

    16 күн бұрын

    Do you mean Zippo fluid?

  • @andymapplebeck2374
    @andymapplebeck2374 Жыл бұрын

    Used your wax/teflon chain recipe as you suggested and it has been brilliant. Also loved your clear, direct instructions and demonstrations......all of which has been a fine example to absolutely everybody who wants to make an instructional video, well done......

  • @kevinferguson6652

    @kevinferguson6652

    14 күн бұрын

    I've been using your wax recipe for years now. I got a slow cooker and ordered the wax and ptfe powder. Never looked back. I also make the liquid version after scraping some wax out of the cooker. It's awesome stuff and saves me money so I can buy more bike stuff. Thanks for the recipes and videos. Keep up the good work. I'll be watching from sunny Scotland 👀 😂

  • @garyaschenberger-cz2fj
    @garyaschenberger-cz2fj Жыл бұрын

    Ive been waxing my chains for about 3-4 years now and would never go back to the commercial products, cleaner longer lasting, thanks

  • @ralfhenning-venske6764
    @ralfhenning-venske6764 Жыл бұрын

    Pope of cycling lubricant - big community contributor - Thank you, this is the missing piece in my OzCycle Chain Wax history - coming from 2019 with Petroleum - switching end of Dec 2019 to PTFE version and now a solid hack with the "on-track" version - Thanks a lot! Good to have you back chap!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Improving lubricants is an ongoing process , maybe one day we will have belt drives with no lube.

  • @FooFahFoeFum

    @FooFahFoeFum

    11 ай бұрын

    Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @oranjid
    @oranjid Жыл бұрын

    2-3 years later still sticking to your Method Steve and it is working well. With candles and PTFE. It was a bit of search required, but just the most simple stick candles seemed to have the best wax. Very similar to those you have there. If anyone is not sure what kind of candles to pick, do not go for tea lights, white stick candles with no coating, the cheap stuff is the best here. Still not sure if this is for everyone. But for people who like to ride 20-30.000km a year this saves big money asides of the pleasure to always have a clean drive-train. thank you Steve!

  • @FooFahFoeFum

    @FooFahFoeFum

    11 ай бұрын

    Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @FunMushizzle
    @FunMushizzle10 ай бұрын

    Just got a new bike, and just learning the art of waxing chains! First time around I went the commercial wax mix in a bag, pre-made. It worked fine and I'm loving how clean the chain is. Next step after finding your channel is do this myself and the save the money! Thank you!

  • @ChrisLowden
    @ChrisLowden Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to watching this video. Truth, I look forward to all your uploads Steve and have put into practice many of your tips. Keep up the great work, always enjoyed and rewatched!

  • @damionmiller4366
    @damionmiller43667 ай бұрын

    I’m sold! Thank you for making this simple, affordable, practical, and fun!!! 🤩

  • @SniperSnake50BMG
    @SniperSnake50BMG Жыл бұрын

    The revised version! Thanks you very much Oz!!!

  • @TK-ov4hn
    @TK-ov4hn Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the update. You made me a believer about a year ago and I will never go back!

  • @kgu9870
    @kgu98709 ай бұрын

    This diy mix is the best thing ive found for coating table saws, planers, and jointers for woodworkers out there

  • @VeloSansFin
    @VeloSansFin Жыл бұрын

    Hi Oz, I did a 175km ride today with waxed chain and it was awesome. Thank you for the videos.

  • @rodionovivan
    @rodionovivan Жыл бұрын

    I used your parafin-PTFE recepie for past 3 years or so in hot bath and in bottle. Perfectly happy with it.

  • @colincarter5266
    @colincarter52665 ай бұрын

    I love the feel and quietness of a freshly waxed chain (I use the immersion method with melted candle wax) but have been wanting good instruction on a freshen up drip application. Thanks for your clear and easy instructions. Will be trying this very soon!

  • @edwiser
    @edwiser Жыл бұрын

    Great to see people still doing this I started waxing my chains in the 80’s.

  • @TikeMyson69

    @TikeMyson69

    Жыл бұрын

    You're doing something wrong. It takes only about 5 minutes for me.

  • @edwiser

    @edwiser

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TikeMyson69 I started waxing my chain in 1985. 😊

  • @crabtrap

    @crabtrap

    11 ай бұрын

    @@edwiser are your palms harry yet?

  • @vikingcove

    @vikingcove

    11 ай бұрын

    I started waxing my chain in the 70's while in high school. I have no recollection from where I got the idea. It worked great in New Jersey's cruddy winter and spring riding. I got my paraffin from huge bulk blocks left over from when we used to make sand candles.

  • @bigwave_dave8468

    @bigwave_dave8468

    11 ай бұрын

    I was doing this in 1979 -- my neighbor was an Engineer from Hewlett Packard and an avid cyclist. He showed me how. I worked at a bike shop and we didn't have any paraffin based lubes in those days.

  • @yru435
    @yru435 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your thorough and informative videos on the chain lube topic. I had an experience recently that provided for me, and perhaps for your viewers, some pointers. I applied an expensive commercial wax lube product to my clean chain, and the lube just sat on the links with little penetration. I decided to add some solvent to the lube to give it some added fluidity. I tried a number of solvents and found that best was ACETONE. It made a nice milky sauce that was better at seeping into the pins and rollers. Here are reasons that ACETONE is better than NAPTHA (SHELLITE)... 1. ACETONE evaporates more quickly. 2. ACETONE is *far less toxic* than NAPTHA (SHELLITE).

  • @mohamedmonem2645
    @mohamedmonem2645 Жыл бұрын

    Coach , HUGE THANKS , i tried this method (naphtha) and it's very easy and very effective , it only took around 10 minutes to prepare and the result is very good , i used only naphtha and it dissolved the wax (with a bit of shaking) , applied it as you said , and a smooth ride we have , thanks a lot

  • @GeneralKato
    @GeneralKato Жыл бұрын

    Just the cleanliness of this method pushed me over!

  • @Suesses-Einhorn
    @Suesses-Einhorn Жыл бұрын

    You are the best person for presenting this. I make 10 chains at once, clean them with car gas in a sealed container, let them sit over night, and rewash them one more time. You can reuse those 2 sealed containers and the same gas. Then i use the wax warmer for hair removal and wax all the chains. When i can hear some squeaking from the chain i put it into a old can and flush it with boiling water, put the chain out and eject the water from it and clean it with a rag. Then i rewax all 10 chains. Its very simple, you just dont want to breath those fumes, so do it outside. I use a latex glove over a working glove to handle hot stuff. And remember, gas is a fire hazard.

  • @robertb208
    @robertb208 Жыл бұрын

    Great work as always! Thanks for sharing

  • @carlosschabauer292
    @carlosschabauer292 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for advice, you make my day.

  • @FranticGuitar88
    @FranticGuitar88 Жыл бұрын

    You should mention that it is important not to get the wax anywhere near disc brakes. If a flake of wax gets on the brake pads it will wick in once heated and you'll never completely get rid of it.

  • @brettmclean1213
    @brettmclean1213 Жыл бұрын

    Great new recipe. Thanks Oz

  • @holdenc1006
    @holdenc10068 ай бұрын

    Hey, greetings from Brisbane, new subscriber here, your channel is the one I’m most happy to have discovered. Also sort of a consolation to me that someone who knows what he’s doing, like yourself, still doesn’t mind using an ultegra mechanical in this day and age:)

  • @RolfReiner
    @RolfReiner9 ай бұрын

    Life saver!!! I ride MTB on a tiny, dusty, salty, sandy and windy island in the middle of the Atlantic. This is the solution, as it is very inconvenient and expensive to import products, particularly liquids.

  • @kahunamatata5721
    @kahunamatata5721 Жыл бұрын

    always love your videos!

  • @robertculver3296
    @robertculver3296 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for great advice. I have been using the teflon /paraffin on my MTB chain for a couple of years now, it is really good as the 'dry' chain doesn't attract /hold dirt so a quick hose off at the end of a muddy ride keeps everything clean.

  • @mdmattmann

    @mdmattmann

    Жыл бұрын

    How often do you reapply ?

  • @robertculver3296

    @robertculver3296

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mdmattmann I haven't used the dissolved wax 'top up' approach, I have 4 chains that I 'rotate' on the bike about every 6-8wks (I do about 60km/wk) then every 6 months or so fire up the slow cooker and do all the chains at the same time.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Every 300km for hot immersive waxing , 100km for this bottled liquid wax.

  • @Unknown-jl7mg

    @Unknown-jl7mg

    Жыл бұрын

    i really wonder how it works on muddy mtb.

  • @Leo-gt1bx

    @Leo-gt1bx

    10 ай бұрын

    Have you tried Molybdenum sulfide?

  • @derekhobbs1102
    @derekhobbs1102 Жыл бұрын

    I'm currently on the Squirt band wagon, I just make sure I thoroughly clean new chain before first application. Current low level chain is at just over 4,000km with no noticeable wear.

  • @fernandomedeiros3393
    @fernandomedeiros339310 ай бұрын

    This is Gold! I like your recipes so much that I don't even bother waxing my chain on the pot anymore. This is all I use. Just wipe the dust off after the ride (If any), apply the lube, remove excess and you're done. I've made batches using IPA, OMS and Naphtha, all three performed flawlessly, IPA being my favorite.

  • @MrAnon-2024

    @MrAnon-2024

    5 ай бұрын

    I realise this was posted 5 months ago but, when you say IPA, are you referring to ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL? I have this in the garage (99.9% purity) so it would be great if I could use that as the carrier for the home made wax 👍

  • @mogosialexandru36

    @mogosialexandru36

    5 ай бұрын

    So....is the alchool good as a carrier? I want to make but i only have alchool

  • @daniele_trioni

    @daniele_trioni

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@MrAnon-2024yeah, I think It's that!

  • @MrAnon-2024

    @MrAnon-2024

    4 ай бұрын

    @@daniele_trioni 👍

  • @mythos14
    @mythos14 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the update. have not managed to get a solution like this, but will try again with ur added information.

  • @mythos14

    @mythos14

    Жыл бұрын

    i used 3/4 of an candle (45gr.), 0.75 Liters of wihte spirits, table spoon ptft. it seams a bit to heavy on wax but we will see

  • @ianthomas3155
    @ianthomas3155 Жыл бұрын

    Great to see you back.

  • @madpeddler8263

    @madpeddler8263

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think he's back, someone else is responding in his absence. The video is most likely pre gone-you-know-where

  • @davidmacdonald287
    @davidmacdonald287 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for recommending Connex Chains eons ago.

  • @FaiscaaaH
    @FaiscaaaH Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the INFO !!!

  • @neta1538
    @neta15386 ай бұрын

    so cool! thanks so much for sharing your experiences and your knowledge, greetings from frankfurt germany

  • @johne7100
    @johne7100 Жыл бұрын

    Pull the wick out with a pair of pliers and use a kitchen grater. I usually swap chains (one in the wax, one on the bike) at 500 km but last chain I did with the petrol/boiling water/wax/PTFE method gave me 1000 km before it got noisy. Wouldn't make a practice of it, just wanted to see. Great method, thanks!

  • @mickp10
    @mickp10 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, quietest chain lube I have used (haven't tried crock pot waxing). The gear changing is silky smooth. I bought my parrifan wax beads from Spotlight, then mixed it into an old Pump water bottle, as tried a large applicator bottle but it leaked when shaking it.

  • @ltu42
    @ltu42 Жыл бұрын

    My tip for this top-up lube: if the wax is not dissolving completely and the small bits of wax are clogging the nozzle, put the whole applicator bottle with the DIY lube into a cup of boiling hot water for a few minutes. The paraffin wax will dissolve into a clear solution.

  • @DavidCanet

    @DavidCanet

    4 ай бұрын

    oh really???? thank you

  • @DavidCanet

    @DavidCanet

    4 ай бұрын

    I will try with precaution not exploding

  • @gunnarguggs2725
    @gunnarguggs2725 Жыл бұрын

    I have been using _Acetone_ as the carrier. It is considerably *less toxic* than Shellite/Naptha and it 'dries' faster.

  • @krak171

    @krak171

    8 ай бұрын

    Did it dissolve the wax fine? Mine is not dissolving with acetone and i dont have naphtha here

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff OZ!

  • @morph__
    @morph__ Жыл бұрын

    Been following Steve's waxing advice for the past few years and believe it has saved me at least 2 replacement chains and prabably a cassette too. This is with one batch of candle wax + ptfe brew. I'll give this liquid a try as a "touch up" when I forget to do a proper hot wax. Thanks Steve!!

  • @ianwilde1800

    @ianwilde1800

    Жыл бұрын

    i was ranting on then seen your post yup you right

  • @coypatton3160

    @coypatton3160

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet you could use a mix of camping stove gas with your hot wax base to have s liquid lube.

  • @FooFahFoeFum

    @FooFahFoeFum

    11 ай бұрын

    Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @peteuthai
    @peteuthai Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this info, great!

  • @cyclemadkiwi
    @cyclemadkiwi Жыл бұрын

    I've been using this for the last 3 years, Road, mountain and Track! I'm a Road and Track Commissaire here in NZ and at the recent NZ Elite Road Nationals doing bike check there were a few elite riders (Pro Teams too!) using wax....I still had to have a rag for all the other "Dirty" chains lol I've still been using the IPA though, looks like the Shellite is a little easier. Along with PTFE I also use Tungsten Di-sulfide and having great results. Love your videos!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers 😃 . Yes wS2 is good too.

  • @sandythemonk

    @sandythemonk

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your routine. Does IPA dissolve wax? Also can IPA clean a new chain of the factory lube if I keep it immersed in IPA for couple of days?

  • @cyclemadkiwi

    @cyclemadkiwi

    Жыл бұрын

    @sandythemonk no, you need to follow the Oz Cycle method, use petrol first, then degreaser and lastly IPA. IPA on its own will not remove the factory grease.

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 Жыл бұрын

    Been using your technique for years, thank you. 2 comments. 1. I use a bain marie for the hot wax bath, ie a metal container on top of boiling water. Works fine, avoids having to use a bulky appliance. Does mean I do it in my kitchen though. 2. Afaik a lot of store candles are soy wax, not paraffin. I suspect soy wax also works, but idk if that's been tested. If it doesn't say on the label, idk how you can tell.

  • @tomrowe372
    @tomrowe372 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely going to try this 👍

  • @Thomas-vx8yf
    @Thomas-vx8yf Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video greetings from Greece

  • @ianwilde1800
    @ianwilde1800 Жыл бұрын

    another good vid mate iv converted my bikes to wax its so much cleaner and the chain life is so much better and i live in wet region of the uk it really is best solution instead spending fortune on fancy dirty oils im still using the first lot of ptfe and wax a year later and i love it its clean my drivetrain looks butifull all nice shiny instead of horrible oily anyone looking to do this believe me i really love it and im cyclist i don't even own a car i have my 3 bikes hybrid mountain bike and road race bike

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Butiful 😁

  • @MountainParameters
    @MountainParameters Жыл бұрын

    I got a lot of bottles of liquid paraffin years ago and have been using it as chain lube. As we ride in the winter when temps can drop to -20C, I have noticed that the small bottle I carry does freeze at temps below -5C, so I guess my next idea will be to make a more viscose 'winter mix' by adding some naptha. Also I have learned here that adding ptfe would also be a good idea.

  • @MountainParameters

    @MountainParameters

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sabertoothmeowsi I find it seems to fade away quite quickly so I keep a mister bottle of it in my bag and usually spray it on every few days I use it full strength from the bottle, at the moment with no naptha, etc. Probably next winter I'll use the naptha as this stuff can freeze, but I'll have to titrate the ratio, I'll probably start with about 25% naptha.

  • @ianhu943
    @ianhu9439 ай бұрын

    Thanks OzCycle👍 I will give it a try too.

  • @steva_nolimits
    @steva_nolimits Жыл бұрын

    The Magic Wax man 💪 no1 know with ur videos how many people started to wax their chains

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Like any industry improvements are made over time.

  • @HerreraCam
    @HerreraCam8 ай бұрын

    A thousand thanks!!

  • @ctawfiq
    @ctawfiq Жыл бұрын

    I use squirt lube. Next time will try to make my own. Nice video, as always.

  • @Kref3
    @Kref321 күн бұрын

    Question for the GERMAN guys around here: Is Naphta / Shellite the stuff we know as REINIGUNGSBENZIN here? And of course: Thanks Oz cycle for the content, really great.

  • @paulperry2120
    @paulperry2120 Жыл бұрын

    Okay I made some lube up this way. Magic mate. Best lube yet and so easy.

  • @cyclingstock4930
    @cyclingstock4930 Жыл бұрын

    Bloody beautiful 😊

  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 Жыл бұрын

    Steve Excellent video. Until seeing this, the whole waxing process all seemed too involved for me to head down this track. However, your very practical and simplified advice has made me reconsider it to definitely giving it a go. Again, thanks

  • @speckles9251
    @speckles9251 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think we want, nor need to spread PTFE all over the place. I get along with my waxed chains WITHOUT that stuff just fine. Otherwise, good experimenting.

  • @BEATHLETIC01
    @BEATHLETIC014 ай бұрын

    You are the best.

  • @montrose252
    @montrose252 Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna try this!

  • @RayStrilec
    @RayStrilec4 ай бұрын

    Having used this recipe, I find that the liquid congeals in the bottle at colder temperatures. That can be a problem during the winters here in Northeast US. My solution is to put the bottle in a container with warm water, occasionally shaking it till the liquid thins and flows easily. However, when applying the warm liquid to a cold chain it causes the wax to harden on the chain, so my solution for that is to warm the chain using a hair dryer before applying the liquid. Experimenting with temperatures, you'll find you can get the wax to flow into the rollers before it sets up. The cooler temps can actually work in your favor. Thanks for all your waxing tips, Oz Cycle dude!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    4 ай бұрын

    Great input,thanx 👌. Can't imagine what it's like to be that cold , coldest we ride in here would be 6degC.

  • @aveedub7403
    @aveedub7403 Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't readily get hold of Naphtha, but lighter fluid, like Ronson etc seems to be a substitute, its virtually 99.9% the same.

  • @tresorr1
    @tresorr1 Жыл бұрын

    after using wax one year, 2 bikes (for citi and road bike) I noticed only one coins: in winter, when is many salt on roads, chain start rusting. So then you need to clean chain after ride in that salti conditions

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. Жыл бұрын

    have followed this and waxed my rival axs chain for about 12 months, 10k km, still good - washed off too quickly in uk winter rain, so have been back on the smoove for the last couple of months.

  • @user-fh7bo4hp2c

    @user-fh7bo4hp2c

    2 ай бұрын

    Do you change the chain link often? It seems that if we were to change the link every 300km it will cost a lot more than using an off the shelf lube and changing the chain at 5000km.

  • @global_nomad.

    @global_nomad.

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-fh7bo4hp2c i never change the chain link - never broken a chain or a link so maybe power related - if you use them carefully they should last fine

  • @dirkgross1603
    @dirkgross1603 Жыл бұрын

    I've been a convert for about three years now. One downside (minor) is tracking miles on 5 bikes. Not a problem on my primary bike because I keep a spreadsheet for maintenance tracking, but my wife doesn't do that so I have to guess for hers...

  • @pbalerig
    @pbalerigАй бұрын

    Great videos always thank you

  • @spektrumB
    @spektrumB Жыл бұрын

    Should I drop Squirt and use this homemade drip lube instead? Gonna made some this weekend and try it out.

  • @RayStrilec
    @RayStrilec4 ай бұрын

    I've viewed many of your videos and they are very informative and helpful. I am a chain waxing convert, thanks to you. I have noticed that you have recommended different liquid wax mixtures, over time, using different chemical agents. Early on you recommended paraffin oil, you later explain that the oil may attract dirt but may be best in wet environments to prevent rust. In other videos you recommend using 99% isopropyl alcohol and in this video, you recommend Shelite (naphtha, here in the US). Could you explain the evolution or the benefits or detriments of the different agents? Might be the subject of a separate video.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    4 ай бұрын

    Some chemicals are not available or have different names in certain countries. For the bottled wax shellite or white spirits is best.

  • @dirkhunt9425
    @dirkhunt9425 Жыл бұрын

    Hello OZ, I have been using the PTFE/Paraffin mix and it works great. I keep 3 chains for my road bike and 3 chains for my gravel bike and just swap chains when needed. (that way I am only heating the crockpot with wax and a temperature controller one every other month or so). A year in and my chains have yet to show any wear at all. With the concerns of forever plastics, have you tried WS2 (Tungsten Disulfide) instead of the PTFE?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes , tried WS2 quite a few years ago but it didn't prove as efficient as PTFE.

  • @cotteeskid
    @cotteeskid Жыл бұрын

    so to be clear Steve, this Shellite ready to use version is fine to use over the top of the Xylene/paraffin hot bath mix from your earlier vids? While you just mentioned the hot immersion wax, I wasn't sure if you had yet another version/carrier that I had missed somewhere along the line. As always, great vids mate.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes , you can use it along with the previous waxing methods. However this shellite recipe is the best one.

  • @juliusceazardeala9231
    @juliusceazardeala9231 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @tcmcdcac
    @tcmcdcac Жыл бұрын

    Just a quick warning. I used the method and it worked perfectly - thanks! However, when applying, I stupidly splashed the shellite carrier on my old shimano dura ace C24's and disolved one of the stickers! No problem, but be careful when applying the mixture!

  • @mzimmerman12
    @mzimmerman125 ай бұрын

    I saw recently on Durianriders channel where you used 99% Isopropal alcohol instead of Naptha. Is that the latest way to go vs the Naptha as that is harder to get your hands on these days. What about Acetone, or mineral spirits, are thos okay to use as well? Love the channel!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    5 ай бұрын

    Simplest and cheapest is white spirits if you can get that?

  • @Charl_Wait
    @Charl_Wait Жыл бұрын

    Still the best lubricant for your chain. My slow cooker broke, and the wax in it lasted longer than the cooker. They stole my bike last year, and yet the wax remains. 🙃

  • @kousueki7024

    @kousueki7024

    Жыл бұрын

    condolences for your stolen bike

  • @genixia
    @genixia Жыл бұрын

    I assume that the excess of shaved wax keeps the solution near saturation, and shaking the bottle simply adds the energy needed to ensure complete saturation. Have you tried making the solution with molten wax and naptha in similar ratios? I'd think that the excess wax would precipitate out as fairly fine particles. If that's the case you could simply melt the wax in jar in a warm oven (170F) before adding it to a jar containing naptha. Along those lines, you could just take clean molten wax from your hotpot next time you refill it.

  • @crabtrap

    @crabtrap

    11 ай бұрын

    no need just shave wax into jar. then add naptha to jar and cap. it will desolve wax. then just pour jar into bottle

  • @michahalczuk9071
    @michahalczuk907111 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this tip. It will be extremely easy to use, and I never wanted to submerse my chain in hot parafin because it was too complicated.

  • @danielbingham3124
    @danielbingham31243 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your instruction of a cheap effective way of waxing chains. Seems like most youtubers are pushing the overhyped. expensive special waxes.

  • @aldunne2001
    @aldunne2001 Жыл бұрын

    As always thanks Steve. I have been using your “recipes” for hot wax with a slow cooker for 5+ years with great success for both road and mountain biking. The only issue I have is that winters are very cold here (Canada) and I find the wax results in poor shifting when cold, say less than -10C. I can only attribute this to the wax getting too hard. Is there a way to adjust the recipes, either hot wax or drip wax that would make it softer for cold temperatures? Maybe mix the paraffin wax with paraffin oil, or thin it out with Xylene? Any thought on what experiments I can try for cold weather? Cheers!

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    You can soften it with paraffin oil. Try half by volume , that's 50:50

  • @SniperSnake50BMG

    @SniperSnake50BMG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was thinking of that cases using liquid paraffin.

  • @Eduardo1007

    @Eduardo1007

    Жыл бұрын

    How does it work for mountain biking? How often do you need to re-do the bath process?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Hot wax every 300km

  • @oranjid

    @oranjid

    Жыл бұрын

    We do not have really cold winters, but 0 to -10C happen - depending on the mixture I started to get issues earlier. Wax does not last that long, shifting quality then decreases already after 80-120km and not the usual 450. I think it might make sense to run a winter chain - with a different mixture. My normal mix is 100% stick candles, that wax works well in most conditions, with PTFE powder. I tested mixing 30-50% of tea candles into the mix. Have to test around a bit, they seem to have a higher oil content. The "no stick" effect is slightly reduced though. But the higher oil content seems to work better in freezing temperatures. It is a bit of a compromise though and I would not want to contaminate my summer chains or wax mix with those candles, and it takes some experimenting to get the mixture just right.

  • @sirbillmumptono.b.e.3946
    @sirbillmumptono.b.e.39467 ай бұрын

    Many thanks, Phil, UK

  • @MuckingMunt
    @MuckingMunt Жыл бұрын

    I have saved most of your old, original chain waxing related videos in a play-list Steve; and I think a summary like this was overdue. On each of my two main bikes I alternate two fully immersed waxed chains. On the few longer 300-400k+ (randonneuring) instances I've set out from home I've used the Isopropanol 'carry along' small bottle solution suggested from your earlier videos. I'm defintely keen to try the "no kettle" shellite approach here too. My only small critique of this video is under-playing the original conversion to a wax vs. oil/petroleum based chain routine. Things are a bit more involved for the first time proper waxing of a chain slicked in OEM/factory lube. I had tried waxing some years before first seeing your channel; and I found your emphasis on totally washing, rinsing and removing previous petroleum based lubes made all the difference. Still a fan of your approach and undermining the BS of the broader industry. Keep it up.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes a chain must always be fully cleaned before any waxing

  • @crabtrap

    @crabtrap

    11 ай бұрын

    Use a powered ultrasonic cleaner w degreaser solution. Will strip chain clean. They cost $60US....and have many uses

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    11 ай бұрын

    Gasoline contains oil , so no.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    11 ай бұрын

    OK. If it dissolves wax and evaporates without leaving any substance it should work.

  • @robertmcfadyen9156

    @robertmcfadyen9156

    6 ай бұрын

    My friend was told by Clarence Street Cyclery that it was unnecessary , casual mechanic's suggestion . I ended up sterilizing​ his chain and starting from scratch with Holy Cow . I had this in stock .@@stevenleffanue

  • @jonedmonds283
    @jonedmonds283 Жыл бұрын

    Very Good Video

  • @stefanwagener
    @stefanwagener Жыл бұрын

    I swapped to waxing two years ago by following the advices here and couldn't be more happy. Thanks a lot! But one question to hot rewaxing in the rice cooker. After initial waxing the wax in the cooker is still clean, but after reusing it for the first rewaxing the wax gets dirty because the chain isn't really clean after using boiling water. When do you think is the point of replacing the wax in the cooker completely? Or do you use fresh wax every time? I saw that the bottom of wax in the cooker is more dirty than the top, so probably some sediments falling to the ground of the cooker. So cutting the lower part of the chunk might leave a more clean upper part of the wax but cutting isn't really easy. So any tips when to replace the wax or how to maximize the reuse of the wax?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    It happens to all immersive waxing unfortunately. Even so , with the wax going greyer with every waxing the chain life is still very long because of the low friction. I recommend making a new wax batch before it gets dark grey.

  • @JeanFrancoisDesrosiers
    @JeanFrancoisDesrosiers Жыл бұрын

    Careful with all and anything that is/was in contact with naphta. Mostly that paper towel you throw in the trash. It can react and ignite.

  • @bigfrogs
    @bigfrogs Жыл бұрын

    I'm just in the process of making some of this and have been hot waxing my chain with your formula for a couple of years now with great results. Would bottled Squirt be ok to use with your recipe as I have just found a bottle I bought ages ago but never used or would I haveto deep clean my chain after use before rewaxing?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Should be OK with squirt lube. As squirt attracts dirt tho you would need to deep clean your chain or the dirt will get into your wax batch.

  • @arandomJohn
    @arandomJohn Жыл бұрын

    Is there a particular type of paraffin you recommend? Looking at suppliers such as Blended Waxes there are a large number of options. Some melt at 120 F, others at 160 F. Any preferences? I've just been using canning wax for years and it works fine, but I figured I might as well optimize if possible.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Simple , cheap candle wax does the job , not blended.

  • @stevemullin1195
    @stevemullin1195 Жыл бұрын

    I currently ride a recumbent trike and switched to the wax/PTFE hot wax last year...and I'm now switching to the silica hot wax mix for my tour this year. My chain is over 10' long and plan to switch to a 2nd chain every 300-400 miles. I have the super secret drip wax lube to treat the chain along my route if it needs it. Hoping to stay at some hostels and warm shower hosts along the way where I can do a proper rewax using a double boiler setup. My tour this year will be from Seattle to LA along the pacific coast route which is over 1600 miles...hoping to do this in less than 2 months averaging 40-50 mile days with camping everynight. I've got the park chain cleaner which I can use with degreaser, rubbing alcohol to clean the chain then treat the chain with my drip lube if the chain gets to dirty...but most of the route is on tarmac. Any suggestions on ways to maintain the chain on long tours?

  • @corvus400

    @corvus400

    Жыл бұрын

    Try vax remover liquid for cleaning your vaxed chain.

  • @lukemiller1873
    @lukemiller1873 Жыл бұрын

    Steve, you're the best mate! I've watched all your videos and have learnt so much. Thanks to you, I managed to successfully build my own bike from the frame up. I figured if I can build it, I can service it. Keep the videos coming mate!

  • @troycollett8540

    @troycollett8540

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s hardly the best

  • @troycollett8540

    @troycollett8540

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RimBrakeKing KZread should prob delete the channel

  • @MickB235
    @MickB235 Жыл бұрын

    Glad I found this video, I have a couple of questions,firstly, my wife is into using candles from DUSK in a big way and when they get to the point of no longer being able to be lit there are remnants left over, would these be ok to use given that they're scented with oils etc? Secondly, I have easy access to avgas (aviation gasoline...which I've been told that shellite is very similar to) and JET-A1 (aviation turbine fuel, or aviation kerosene) . Would either of these be suitable as the liquid carrier?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    If the scented candles are paraffin wax they should be good to use. Sorry I don't know anything about Avgas.

  • @darciobraga6941
    @darciobraga6941 Жыл бұрын

    OZ I use you was formula with PTFE. That is fantastic! About this video I have a question or observation I believe that naphtha can damage the bike paint. For that reason I’d stick with alcohol.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    If you spill some on your paintwork simply wipe it off with a clean rag. The natpha evaporates quickly anyhow.

  • @petrhanak6950
    @petrhanak6950 Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering what this shellite is in EU. Well, it is white gas, reinigungsbenzin, or technicky benzin in Czech. Good tip from OZ!

  • @mrsmradoch9584

    @mrsmradoch9584

    Жыл бұрын

    Taky hledám. :) Asi zkusím severochema White Spirit?

  • @mrsmradoch9584

    @mrsmradoch9584

    Жыл бұрын

    Najdi komentář ot Eric S ... Píšou tam že použít se dá kerosene(petrolej) aceton a white spirits... Asi zkusím tu petrolej protože je nejlevnější :) u acetonu píšou že moc rychle mizi

  • @yodel_diploma2315
    @yodel_diploma2315 Жыл бұрын

    Very good advice! Would this work with an atomizer also?

  • @yodel_diploma2315

    @yodel_diploma2315

    Жыл бұрын

    Update: I tested a squirt bottle, unfortunately it jams up quickly.

  • @johnmaheu4037
    @johnmaheu4037 Жыл бұрын

    What adjustments are needed for cold weather, say less than 0 C when bike and lube are in a cold garage? I've been trying the standard Squirt in these temps and it definitely seems off. Thanks for the video.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Add more solvent to keep it liquid for the application. Once in the chain it doesn't matter what the temperature.

  • @Threadexpress
    @Threadexpress Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! I have been buying and using R&Roll on my E Bike for years. This will save me heaps! How do you really know the hot wax method is better? I have been using the solvent type and measuring my chain regularly...and I got three years on my first chain before it started to show some minor wear- just changed it. Cheers Cliff

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Rock n Roll was one we did compare with. Whilst initially a good lubricant it collected dirt very easily and that contamination seeped into the chain links easily.

  • @Threadexpress

    @Threadexpress

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevenleffanue I have been using R&Roll blue, which I think is just wax and PTFE. Or are you saying that your brew will carry contaminant into the chain also? Cheers Cliff

  • @drayzen9678
    @drayzen9678 Жыл бұрын

    Steve, Have you tested Tungsten Disulfide powder?

  • @rivnuts7398
    @rivnuts7398 Жыл бұрын

    Some time ago you posted a similar video on how to make your own liquid wax using paraffin, lamp oil and xylene. I tried that recipe and had difficulty in keeping it liquid with heating and this quit making it. Is this current recipe better in that regard and what led you to abandon the lamp oil and switch to naphtha?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    This is better... always improving , it's an ongoing process.

  • @DDai-qd8uk
    @DDai-qd8uk Жыл бұрын

    Hey mate, curious if you ever tried tungsten disulfide and how it compares to ptfe in your testing? Or perhaps combined them?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    PTFE presented less friction.WS2 leaves grey marks on what it contacts.

  • @gnomesgardens4393
    @gnomesgardens4393 Жыл бұрын

    I've gone through the thorough degreasing process and currently use smoove lube, but am thinking of switching to paraffin/teflon in a slow cooker. Should I thoroughly clean my chain again or should I be good to go straight to paraffin since they're both wax based? Cheers, Matt.

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    The Shellite in the mixture will dissolve the previous wax and every rewax will replace that previous wax with paraffin wax.

  • @sandythemonk

    @sandythemonk

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@stevenleffanue Sounds like WD-40; degreasing and lubing at the same time.

  • @donbushek733

    @donbushek733

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sandythemonk Be careful. WD40 is NOT a lubricant. It’s a solvent carrying a water dispersant. It may seem slippery while still wet, but if you rely on it for longterm lubrication, you are asking for trouble.

  • @gentlecoder5167
    @gentlecoder5167 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this advise. Question: does the shellite leave an oily film on a chain? Do I need to go thru the initial cleaning with tarp/gasoline and metholated spirits before the next hot waxing?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes , do a final rinse with IPA or methylated spirits to make sure

  • @darrylearnshaw7102
    @darrylearnshaw710210 ай бұрын

    Assuming you can use pre-mixed wax/ptfe with shellite?

  • @todormashev5337
    @todormashev5337 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the advice! In order to avoid flaking after hot waxing, your advise is to add some paraffin oil into the wax. Could you tell me what should be the ratio?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    50:50

  • @corvus400
    @corvus400 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome chain vax! I wanted to get Ptfe powder for a long time. Is Naphta the same as White spirits?

  • @stevenleffanue

    @stevenleffanue

    Жыл бұрын

    White spirits will work well also