"grandpa is not racist, he takes us to Chinatown" same energy as "i'm not racist, i have a black friend"

@ClownHoundII

Ай бұрын

It's literally the same energy as "I'm not racist, I enjoy chinese food".

@OneEyeShadow

Ай бұрын

"I'm not a racist, I've eaten at Taco Bell."

@DavyEddyBenny

Ай бұрын

“This nation isn’t racist, we had Obama as president”

@Iamafishproductions

Ай бұрын

He showed us how to kick the gong around! HEEDIE HEEDIE HEEDIE HEE

@reynellfreeman8761

Ай бұрын

compared to I'm not racist I only make fun of white people

Video title: “Watching THAT episode of Braceface”. Me: Do you realize how little that narrows it down?

@derekstein6193

Ай бұрын

Replace Braceface with Totally Spies, and that statement is exactly as accurate.

This episode came out after 9/11. I'm surprised Grampy didn't ask Moe "When do you get your flying carpet?". And when Moe responded that he's afraid of flying, Grampy would have said "Thats good. We don't want to lose anymore tall buildings".

@michaelpineiro533

Ай бұрын

the execs were really pushing for "camel jockey", but when the writers segued into an asian joke is when they _really_ got *hard.*

"That episode of braceface" narrow downs nothing.

@DarrenSnider

Ай бұрын

It’s like asking Blight who’s father he murdered

@rco7195

Ай бұрын

I was assuming it was the breast expansion episode 😂

@20stardust

Ай бұрын

Thumbnails are valuable sources of info and context if you pay attention.

@TheDanishGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

C O R R E C T

@Firestar-TV

Ай бұрын

​@@rco7195😂 expected that one too

One thing I can say about braceface is that the creators aren’t afraid to tackle adult themes

Imagine being the grandpas voice actor, reading your lines for the first time

@adampellett4917

Ай бұрын

I think it sounds like Brave Heart Lion. Because that is the voice of a Care Bear Cousin.

@Iamafishproductions

Ай бұрын

"Hah! Get it? Camels! Oh, mercy...anyway, when do we start recording?"

@FlowWolf7

Ай бұрын

" Um that's not in the script, but thanks for the initiative

Gypsy being a slur I've learned is mixed. Some Romani say it is a slur, while others seem pissed that those Romani are taking what they call themselves away and prefer the term Gypsy. I've concluded that the whole thing is a mess that I have no say in as an outsider.

@gav1233

Ай бұрын

I'd avoid it because it comes from the word "Egypt". At the time, it was believed that the Romani originated in Egypt when they actually migrated to Europe from India. Not only is the word offensive to most Romani, it's factually wrong. However, some Romani, especially those in the United States, still use it because Americans wouldn't know what they're talking about when they say "Romani". That's what I've heard.

@danicafugit2697

Ай бұрын

When I was younger I always heard the word “gyped” but never knew how it was spelt or what they were referring to. I thought it was spelt Jipped. Anyway, used it back in a forum and was called out for using a slur. Some understood because of how I spelt it and how I responded that I had no idea, but some insisted I was racist. 😢

@PRT95

Ай бұрын

I tend to avoid it, erring on the side of caution. Only using it if I'm clarifying what I mean by Romani. Otherwise sticking with Romani. Also this is kind of their issue to handle.

@Darke_Exelbirth

Ай бұрын

@@danicafugit2697 I hate people from that last category. Like, come on, it's possible for people to genuinely not know something. A lot of east asian cultures don't know the n-word as a slur, because they were never a part of that business. And I'm betting the people who know the Romani slur is a slur probably don't know a single slur in Kenya.

@yellohammer8571

Ай бұрын

From what I've heard, Romani living in the British Isles are called Travellers, accompanied with which part of the country they live in.

"“The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.” The saying means that chosen bonds are more significant than the bonds with family or “water of the womb.” More directly, it means that relationships you make yourself are far more important than the ones that you don't choose " Idk, now that I know the correct saying. I get a little annoyed when people use the incorrect one So I just, comment the correct one

@Larper64

Ай бұрын

Same actually. I was just about to bring that up when I saw your comment. After learning the origin of the phrase, it became so annoying how often it is missused to mean the opposite and even to justify family loyalty in the face of abusive behavior.

@LittleMissLounge

Ай бұрын

I read somewhere that's not the original quote and was created by an author to prop up found families instead of biological ones like the actual quote does. 🤷‍♀️

From what I'm seeing here, I'm sure the creators had no idea just how visible the problem would become over the next 20 years, but I think they tried their best even if it doesn't full-on tackle the issue im the end. What I'd like to have seen is her and her grandpa having THAT excuse. You know the one, the "of his time" excuse. And he has to eventually acknowledge that it was wrong then and it's wrong now. He could admit that he knows it's wrong and tell her he doesn't really know her friends, but he loves her and wants to be better for her sake. Then she can take that forward to her friend's relationship: that she doesn't really know him yet, but she loves her and wants to do right by her. It could let the friend feel safe enough to let her guard down and open up about the problem in her relationship.

There is alot of that episodes in Braceface

@imaniislander755

Ай бұрын

13 minutes in

Damn, it reminds me of Static Shock about racism even discussing about people’s sexuality, personality, the way they act even their preference. Boy, many kids shows got away with darker moments.

@MidgarMerc

Ай бұрын

And now when they try you get Ben Shapiro and Fox screaming about "indoctrination"

Wait, I had no idea Braceface’s father was a… *rock drummer!* 😱

@souplife1

Ай бұрын

WHY ARE THEY ALL LIKE THAT

@livingcancer5772

Ай бұрын

and a *jew*, no less!

@g0thfae

Ай бұрын

​@@livingcancer5772bruh

I've never been a preeteen girl myself, but Pepper Ann is my spirit animal.

lol I've expected a different Episode. 🙃 At first I thought the Grandpa is just joking and then he goes into full Racist Mode

ToonrificTariq tacked the whole Braceface series in a video and yeah. Sharon was way too dismissive about her old grandpa. Not even just racist, it's rude in general.

Very sloppy execution. It had a lack of focus and tried to juggle multiple scenarios that honestly should have had their own separate episode dedicated to it. The one with Maria and the guy should have been its own episode. As for the Grandpa, from a narrative perspective he needed to be held accountable at some capacity. Not villainized but held accountable for his inappropriate attitudes towards people of color. An intervention. SOMETHING! Don’t just dismiss it as generational difference. Overall a well meaning but confusing mess of an episode.

@CaptainCat101

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@ryanmoore6259

Ай бұрын

The fact that he doesn't overcome his racism is somewhat refreshing. All too often they have the bigot overcome their bigotry very quickly.

So after the og BraceFace video you did (about Busted), me and the fiancee decided to actually sit and watch BraceFace. Honestly? I think everyone should give it a chance. Once you see what they show is actually about, all the weird shit falls into place - it’s a show made to discuss topics you don’t want to bring up to your parents. There are episodes that are lowkey step-by-step instructions for Middle Schoolers in tough spots, such as their friend being inappropriately talked to by a teacher, handling a friend’s breakup, finding a way to keep step with your bullies, how to navigate tricky arguments/disagreements, and - yes - how to handle puberty and the insecurities it comes with. It’s genuinely a good show, and I mean that. Go try it!

1:39 WHAT!???? 😂 😂 😂

@yannismorris4772

Ай бұрын

I cringed so hard

@TheMiraculousVillain

Ай бұрын

Who says Harem in a cartoon!? It clearly should be said in an anime setting

@ClownHoundII

Ай бұрын

​@@TheMiraculousVillainPlease tell me you're joking. Anime didn't invent the concept of multiple partners.

@TheMiraculousVillain

Ай бұрын

Im not so sure actually 😂

I only ever saw clips of this show. I did not know what *that* episode meant. Based on this channel, I assumed it'd be some weird fetish thing where you ask "... did they creator know?" I was not ready for casual racism. That's an entirely different shield that I did not have up at the time.

I literally finished rewatching Braceface a couple days ago lol, still an amazing show.

the down side to these shows is when they PSA suddenly charters who never acted that way before do the PSA then never act that way again. the best thing to do is have each charter be hat way in every episode and work the issue out over time while never really getting over it.

In Europe we have the same problem of racism you have with black people but with the Roma people (different history, but it lead to a similar situation), then there are the thousands of national minorities which are each a world.

This is when I first heard about Funimation. I used to have a Braceface DVD more than a decade ago.

I feel like Maria is valid in her feelings towards Sharron’s grandpa, but the end kills it what could have been a good message. If it was shown that Sharron had a conversation with him and he tried to make an effort to change, it would have been better. That’s not to say that it’s as simple as a one time conversation irl. It’s not and some people don’t care to grow. Ultimately they chose to stay horrible people. You can’t change the minds of people who are too afraid to leave their bubble and grow a world view. I understand generational language differences but you can tell when someone is using language with the intent to be offensive. There is a difference between ignorance and racism. Edit because I thought of something else. Even if they had shown Sharron confronting her grandfather, even if he rejected her criticism, if the focus was on Sharron doing the right thing, and standing up for her friend and others, and acknowledging that her grandfather is wrong and that she was wrong for being dismissive, even that would have been better than how it ended.

I can't believe halfway through the episode her magic braces made her black.

Braceface had some interesting episode themes that I haven't seen that many shows tackle, i.e. the period episode (Sharon gets her first period while out on her first date with the boy she likes). There was an episode where Sharon gave in to peer pressure and drank alcohol, another where she starved herself after the show's mean girl called her fat and so on and so forth.

Oh goddddd I cant finish this one Saber. I bet its a good video but im cringing myself into a pretzel

For a Canadian kids show, maybe it tackled it in a good enough way but the fact that sexism in the same episode which also may have had the grandpa double down on his beliefs about Muslims or those from the middle east was probably not great to put in the same episode. South Park did do way better on this though to the point that their black viewers loved how it was done

I need to watch this series more, I mostly remember bits and pieces. And you did a riff on the breast implant episode, but there's an episode in this same season with presumptions about a guy's sexual orientation and I think it's the guy she's talking to after Maria calls out her privilege. But I'm not sure they ever use the word gay, which is reflected here too, he says, he's adorable when you'd know if you'd seen the other episode that he's apparently not into girls. Which isn't the one I thought it was, it's a later season, seemingly the one that wasn't broadcast on Disney because of the Busted episode

One thing I respect is that the grandfather DOESN'T Just stop being a bigot because he gets a nice talking to. Racism is one of those things that takes a lot of time and effort to overcome, and it requires a lot of self reflection, even from people with mild views. To many Very special episodes took the path of "oh the guy just stops being racist because he's told about it" which is both unrealistic AND gives the impression racism isn't that big a deal, which is dishonest. The hot dog thing I interpreted as he's at least willing to try to be more open minded, which is a good compromise

I've been binge watching these for recent streams (sadly work means I can never join one live) and am so glad you brought back the furry avatar.

I thought you were going to watch the episode where she gets the inflatable bra!

@secretmagicalgirl

Ай бұрын

He did a video on that episode a while back, actually!

@ZekeorSomething

Ай бұрын

I thought it would be the one where she drinks alcohol

@Pinkywinkykinky

Ай бұрын

samee

@noahdean9685

Ай бұрын

@@secretmagicalgirl I remember that one!

"Oh Graammppyy" and the delivery is SENDING ME

7:36 That in€£st stare moment

I DIDNT KNOW YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS SHOW-

Would've been more interesting if the grandpa was the one to notice the sexism because of his racism and have it turned back on him like "Why can you be aware of what other people are doing wrong but not what you yourself are doing wrong" would've been a good way to get the character introspecting and actually give him an arc instead of whatever this was.

those eyes in the dog walking scene was so bad, uhg

It needs a part where they have a serious conversation

Is anyone going to mention that the plane that hit "Braceface" was piloted by an east asian

I never actually saw Braceface but dayum!

A joke that flew over my head was the joke in the Dreamworks movie, ANTZ, where the wasps spoke with a 'sophisticated' accent and a snobbish demeanor. They were totally WASPS not just wasps.

@ClownHoundII

Ай бұрын

What?

@EboArmadillo

Ай бұрын

@@ClownHoundII Im serious. Search it up.

Is it weird I thought for a second that the racist grandpa and the girl we’re gonna kiss? I know that sounds messed up but watch plane hitting her in the face scene again and tell me that’s not what they’re building up to!!!😅😅😅

1:40 WHAT THE F... Harem in 2001?!

How about that episode of monster high about the seamonster getting her period.

Fun fact! If you Google "that episode," it shows results for the CSI episode "fur and loathing." But you already knew that, didn't you Saber?

Wait it just sorta ended.

Is this a banned episode?

I really like braceface but god this episode and the boob one are such massive blunders ugh

Jesus, I'm a minute and 50 seconds in and I already cant believe this shit 😥

@delycan4912

Ай бұрын

If I had watched this live, I'd be freaking out :/

People are asking why the Arab boy didn't react. Keep in mind this cartoon was from the early 2000s. I guarantee he's heard worse.

@LittleMissLounge

Ай бұрын

LMAO, what did you think the Family Guy joke about the family of wasps/WASPs was about? One of their few good jokes.

You should watch THAT episode of the show Horseland 😬

6:36 there are my favorite characters

Wow that is blunt!

The episode could've tackled the subject better. At the very least, they should've said to him that he was being rude

white anglo saxon protestant

Braceface went deep there, this episode is so needed now today. But sadly if we reshow this it will be called woke.

Never in my life til today have I EVER seen a cartoon or kids show talkimf abkut racism and all that such but at least static shock taught us an important lesson about unlike braceface that one guy stood up for his friend and got angry at his own dad for being a racist piece of crap while the main character from braceface thought it was funny that her grandpa being racist was being funny which is not so yeah.

6:14 Wait Sharon's ancestors came from England!?

@fredericgrunert7902

Ай бұрын

Yes thats why she need braces.

I thought it was going to be the exploding boob episode 😂

Aaah Braceface, love it as a kid and still loving it now. It's still holds today. Like a fine whine.

So much "Color Blind" Canada.

When you said 'that' episode, I thought you meant the boob one.

Oh, so "the comments" said it was a slur? Must be legit then...

@josjos-x5s

Ай бұрын

I mean it is. And you wouldn't know to even look into it unless someone told you.

Oh first time being the first at no views

That episode was BULLSHIT!

Think about it Saber, what kind of people tend to be bougie, tennis players? Old money.

This episode goes hard, wow!

Saber is white!?!?

@Angela.Perkins

Ай бұрын

Yes

79th veiwer!

Idk i feel like the message was that you cant control how people are and some parts of them are hard to deal with but you cant let the bad parts block all the good. Also if you talk about it and try to understand each other, you can both change or adjust your perspective.

So the bra episode?

"Gypsy" is not a slur, it's just that some people _think_ it's a slur.

@g0thfae

Ай бұрын

Finally! Someone gets it.

@josjos-x5s

Ай бұрын

No it is a slur because it was literally classed as such by Romani groups since like the 1980s. It's a term thats been used in the racism/prejudice against them, has been used to generalize their culture and was a mislabel in the first place (Being that they were thought to be Egyptian). Kind of like how "Indians" was a mislabel for Native Americans. Of course the way these given names are treated isn't exact.

@otaking3582

Ай бұрын

@@josjos-x5s It's been used for decades since then, and yet few if any people have complained.

@josjos-x5s

Ай бұрын

@@otaking3582 I have the strangest feeling you dont actually listen or even see those to listen to.

@otaking3582

Ай бұрын

@@josjos-x5s First of all, if "gypsy" were a slur, then how come KZread isn't censoring my comment despite them also censoring such words as "aut1$m" and "b1g0t"? Secondly, I somehow doubt that you yourself are Romanian, so you probably shouldn't be saying what is or isn't offensive to them.

One problem is that only 'european and english' people can be racist, they never like showing the reverse. Hence why people who come over say only 'certain people can be' while everyone else isn't. The result is in the present.

i don't mind people telling asian jokes too me. like i won't be offended by it and im asian.

First commentttt

@arbotplayzroblox8248

Ай бұрын

Well not first but second

@caoimherush4488

Ай бұрын

@@arbotplayzroblox8248 yeah I started refreshing it cuz it wasn't loading from my end but now I see it

"I didn't know it was a slur" Proceeds to say it multiple times.

@SniccSnacks

Ай бұрын

He's not using it in a hurtful context, he's explaining how he learned it. Calm it

I never would liked this cartoon. I don’t like how they have four fingers.

@gryficowa

Ай бұрын

The four fingers are a remnant of the first animations, so that's an interesting fact

her eyes are so wild and buglike wtf

Slice of life anime is great, but I honestly didn't care much for American slice of life. Too many cringe moments

@notrealnamenotatall2476

Ай бұрын

Good news, this is actually Canadian.

Just cause you have different skin, nationality or even views doesnt make you a bad person. If the grampa showed hostility then he'd clearly be the badguy but he was pulling humor and the arab was going along with the jokes. If the arab pulled a joke about grey foxes then i believe the gramps would've taken the humor just as well. But then again i wouldnt know how this episode went. This video is my intro to it but i find that the way a person acts says more than what they say.

@ravenm6443

Ай бұрын

A lot of times people who experience racism laugh and crack jokes to cope with a common and awkward situation in part because if you call people out on their racism or ignorance, they get defensive and say “it’s just a joke” “you’re too sensitive” “lighten up” etc. it’s easier to dismiss and deflect by playing a long, not being we think it’s funny or ok but because we’ll be dismissed or raged against for calling it out.

@jr5687

Ай бұрын

It's not always about the intention, it's the words said.