Dance is such an on-character casting for the role of Tywin. There's a lot of subtleties at play here. -He uses appropriate royal terms, but does not bow to Joffrey. -Joffrey complains about the Small Council meetings, which he does not attend. -Tywin DOES attend, and uses the same argument of travel time for ACTUAL work. -When spoken to in a demanding way, he steps forward; causing Joffrey to recoil slightly. -Tywin is tall, he towers over Joffrey (great camera work) -The symbol of the Hand of the King is worn at an angle, not upright. -Tywin leans into Joffrey being a child, telling him he can be "carried" if desired. -Joffrey, petulant little sadist that he is, correctly brings attention to a potential threat. -One of Tywin's few, but blatant, weaknesses is exposed. Concerned only with the here and now. -Scene ends with Tywin not waiting to be dismissed. He pauses twice, readjusting himself to the center steps. All this in 3 freaking minutes. 1 min of which is done in complete silence.

@LenjoW15

Жыл бұрын

Furthermore, I've seen entire 2.5h MOVIES do what I've seen in 3 mins here.

@CrowsComputer

6 ай бұрын

Well spotted! I noticed another when he is entering with the kingsguard, he pauses briefly and they stop behind him and follow no further. They would do this for almost no one else and be right behind them all the way up to the king, but they know who he is

@aprilshowersstormtrooper

6 ай бұрын

Another thing you’ve missed: Tywin climbs the stairs dramatically, mirroring his stated “you can be carried up the stairs if you wish”

@dictatordan1

6 ай бұрын

great observations but I think the hand pin is always worn askew like that (Ned & Tyrion)

@gwyn111

6 ай бұрын

What the hell happened in Season 8! D&D were perfectly capable of adapting and augmenting the books brilliantly. Such a shame.

Actually one of the few scenes where joffery is showing intelligence. He’s genuinely concerned about the issue to the east and how to solve it.

@AidanMclaren

6 ай бұрын

Sadly Tywin, in the process of trying to set his grandson straight, doesn't take him or the issue he raised seriously.

@muhammadesa2517

6 ай бұрын

He should attend the meetings then

@jlassijlali290

6 ай бұрын

ّJoffrey: complaining about potentially having to walk up stairs to attend council meetingّ Do you think he is care! this is just show of power and who is wielding! it

@standarddeviation7963

6 ай бұрын

There is a moment where Tywin truly could have fostered actual wherewithal in his grandson to learn what it takes to be a king and instead he uses it to dab on him. Because he didn't want Joffery to be a king, he wanted Joffery to be a puppet.

@hibbidyjibbidyy

6 ай бұрын

hes genuinly goncerned abouit hbit grandpa

“You are being counseled at this very moment.” Such a badass delivery.

@victorcharles27

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like snape 😊😢

@bluegent7

Ай бұрын

Only if Tywin came by his own volition to counsel his king on the matter at that moment. Otherwise it falls flat and speaks against him as being negligent.

@rockstoneballs

24 күн бұрын

I mean, Joffrey summoned him? So he was only being counselled because he demanded it

@kalvin187douglas

3 күн бұрын

Right

"Whenever nessesary" = "When i fucking feel like it!"

@newperve

Ай бұрын

Remember he's to be "appropriately" counseled on "important" matters. They're is no less than 3 outs [EDIT: Tywin] gave himself.

@diocletian607

Ай бұрын

Yeah ALWAYS be extremely wary of having any dealings with people who play these word games. These people can justify lying to you through the use of a single qualifier

@DittyDafku

15 күн бұрын

Caught that too, was a sly attack that he knew Joffrey was too stupid to catch

@claudiuflorea2090

8 күн бұрын

@@newperveI was going to say the same thing kuddos to you for catching it, you must be a good manipulator also 😅

“May I ask why?” Joffrey has never been that polite with anyone else

@ajdominguez1002

5 ай бұрын

He knows not to f*** around with Tywin. He knows Tyron will hold a mask over his face, dispose of joffrey, and will plant Tommen on the iron throne

@frankie3357

5 ай бұрын

@@Inebriated_Goat if joffrey called for tywins execution nothing would happen, tywin pays the kingsguard, and the guards, and the executioners lol it's why joffrey knows not to fuck with him, tywin is THE most powerful man in westeros

@insultlk

3 ай бұрын

Really goes to show how dangerous Tywin is. That someone like Joffrey who treats all his peers and comrades like rats is so polite to his grandfather😂😂

@bradley5305

3 ай бұрын

Because he knows better.

@jojocasimir1118

2 ай бұрын

lol Fr I was like finally somebody that will put him in his place

Joffrey sitting back, worried his grandpa would bitch-slap him is gold. 🤣

@tajajones7003

3 ай бұрын

Listen he knows how close and how often he gets the shit slapped out of him

Tywin stopping to stop the kingsguard following him screams power.

@michaelbayer5094

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and it's so subtle. When I read the books and got to Tywin's death, I thought that the Lannisters will now be in trouble, When Tywin dies in the show, I thought, "will this be worth watching without Charles Dance?". It really was not. No actor filled the screen like he did.

@brandonbrown6356

2 ай бұрын

I didn’t even notice that……everything about him showed how intimidating his presence was.

@jiszle697

2 ай бұрын

That's a great point!!! Tywin was the real king at this point, anyway.

@Sujjin21

Ай бұрын

Loved that little bit

@sayhitosteve2785

Ай бұрын

Wow, I missed that subtlety. Thank s for mentioning it.

I love how he walked up the steps so that he stood over Joffrey to imply that he was above him despite their stations.

@SuperSparrow45

4 ай бұрын

Joffrey is the king, but Tywin is the money. The kingdom follows the latter over the former.

@Christrulesall2

3 ай бұрын

Yes. By doing that and joffrey not ordering him to be instantly killed for just walking up the steps to the throne, he asserted his dominance in power over him.

@paullowman9131

2 ай бұрын

And he was.

@SelfHatingLionsFan

2 ай бұрын

No. He was simply making a point....the point being how easy it was to climb a few stairs, and how ridiculous it was to have just said that shit. Watch it again.

@andyroobrick-a-brack9355

2 ай бұрын

​@@SelfHatingLionsFanTwo things can be true at once. This was clearly conveying Tywin's dominance in the conversation, while also showing the idiocy of Joffery's concerns.

As a power move tywin farted on the way down the stairs.

@cbozlol

7 ай бұрын

This is now canon

@nunyabiznes33

5 ай бұрын

Maybe this was his horse in disguise.

@ghamandlupin

2 ай бұрын

"you will marry that fart"

@thegrimmretails3777

Ай бұрын

As a power move he’s been farting since he entered.

@Izabela-ek5nh

24 күн бұрын

​@@thegrimmretails3777 I appreciate this picture, thank you 😂😂😂

Charles Dance has such a commanding presence on screen. Great actor

The one time joffrey actually got it right.🐉🐲

I love how in the moments where Joffrey is actually being smart he’s mostly shot down but when he’s being sadistic and insane everybody is basically fine with it

@bullgravy6906

22 күн бұрын

He was so sure of himself when being a sadistic prat, and also his sadism had zero implications on anyone other than what was right in front of him. In actual kingly duties he was meek and unsure, but weirdly correct but no one cared because of his attitude

@Ariana-wv4pf

18 күн бұрын

Yep That boy was immature, psychopathic and cruel. But he wasn't dumb. He was the only one concerned with the dragons (and he was right about that), he was also the one who had the idea to create one army (as opposed to each kingdom having their own) trained to be faithful only to the Crown. He also understood Cersei's manipulation tactics and put her in her place more than once. He appreciated Margaery's more subtle ways of manipulating him and allowed her to do so. He wasn't stupid and, maybe, with Margaery by his side, he would have become a good king. And Cersei wouldn't have had the guts to kill Margaery and the rest. Tommen was too soft, had she done that while Joffrey was still alive, he would have executed her.

@Fgaentertainment

2 күн бұрын

​@Ariana-wv4pf if joffery were alive the high sparrow would never have made it to power. I can see him shipping cersei off once she annoyed him.

"Even broken clock indicates time correctly, twice a day" - Jeong Byeongju

@deja_

4 ай бұрын

The only thing a broken clock can tell you is the time of its death

@shourya2408

3 ай бұрын

@@deja_damn that's good, never heard it

@bashojanggoon2167

2 ай бұрын

Umm… I’m like 100% sure that the person you attribute that quote to was quoting someone else.

@TheCamieman

2 ай бұрын

It's technically stopped clock. A broken clock can be minutes odd out

@n00bfest32

Ай бұрын

Are you Jeong’s friend or something? Lol definitely not his quote

The pause before “whenever necessary” changes the meaning entirely. Brilliant.

@maggoteater2290

4 күн бұрын

Bravo vince

2:40 this line shows that Varys had been actively misinforming Tywin about the nature of Dany's dragons in order to keep his attention away from the matter. This might be the only time where from a strategic point of view, Joffrey is right and Tywin is wrong.

@SRK_H_M_W_A

6 ай бұрын

Varys then proceeds to accurately inform Tywin about Dany acquiring the unsullied and Barristan Selmy as an advisor following Joffrey’s demise. It may not have been so much on misinformation as it was that Varys needed more time for his sources to get the message to him.

@TheMisterGuy

6 ай бұрын

"this line shows that Varys had been actively misinforming Tywin about the nature of Dany's dragons" Are you sure the dragons were proven to be a threat at that point? Early on, nobody even knew if the eggs could hatch, let alone that these dragons would grow to be the size of ancient ones.

@aswinastro

Ай бұрын

@@TheMisterGuy Actually, Tywin is right. In the world of GOT (both the books and the show) -Baby Dragons take years to grow and almost decades to reach the heights that Balerion or Vhagar did. Balerion for instance was already around 100 years at the time of Aegon's conquest. I think Meraxes and Vhagar were around 50-80 years old - I can't remember their exact age. As GOT does not have internet and the spies who pass information from one corner to other may take months, there is a strong chance the information Tywin got was at a time when Danny's Dragons were mere babies, smaller than your house pet.

@TheMisterGuy

Ай бұрын

@@aswinastro " In the world of GOT (both the books and the show) -Baby Dragons take years to grow and almost decades to reach the heights that Balerion or Vhagar did." But...in the show...Dany's dragons grew to massive size over a period of like, ten years. Are you saying that was highly unusual? I don't know if that's "full" size but they were enough that a single one of them could torch King's Landing and the Red Keep in a day. "As GOT does not have internet and the spies who pass information from one corner to other may take months" Ignoring how ravens seemed to operate at the speed of cell phones by the later seasons, that's fine with me, but Tywin would know that. Everyone would be accustomed to how long things take and if your spy in Essos says they saw something, you mentally add six months or whatever. You'd be in a world where you understand you're playing a very long, slow game with big delays in communication and travel time.

@bonononchev634

25 күн бұрын

Plus, even without Tywin two of the dragons died ... if he lived, they would not have set foot on Westeros...

Tywin did the Bane from Dark Knight Rises: “Do you feel like you’re in charge?”

@kalvin187douglas

3 күн бұрын

Really?

One of the few times Joffrey showed interest in being an actual king.

I love it when Tywin walked up and the stairs and Joffrey had to look up to him, a realisation that the power had shifted and was in fact always this way.

One of Tywin's ways of dominating people is by towering over them like that.

Look, we all HATE Joffrey, but tbh, he’s actually the more rationale and intelligent person in this scene. Not even about seeing Daenerys as a potential threat, but even the conversation about where the meetings are held kind of exposes Tywin’s own ego, that even the king must work on his time and rules

@user-it5td8hg4i

Ай бұрын

Exactly. I've always wondered how Tywin would explain if Joffrey asked "So your time is more important than my own?" Such a direct accusation would be difficult to deflect, since no matter what Tywin can not admit that he holds more power than the king.

the way this Tywin carries himself is goals, hes the leader in any conversation

Such an amazing actor who plays as Joffrey. Too bad the internet is such a bad place and very ungrateful

@moviedigest1

5 ай бұрын

Personally the best actor in the series

@SaigaTenshi

5 ай бұрын

@@moviedigest1 I agree. If I was given a chance to meet that actor, I would shake his hands and say "your role as Joffrey is magnificent"

@cheaplaffsarefree

4 ай бұрын

Apparently the poor bastard couldn't go anywhere in public for months afterward because people would insult and abuse him, unable to distinguish him from the character he played in a fictional TV series. People can be reeeeeally stupid.

@andyroobrick-a-brack9355

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. As much as I hate Joffery, I also love the bastard. Jack Gleeson did an excellent job with the role, he did more than what was necessary, and it sucks that people can't see past the persona he put on for a TV role.

@htwesports8804

Ай бұрын

​@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 He is so good that he fools the people

Joffrey: complaining about potentially having to walk up stairs to attend council meetings he never attends Tywin: an old man, walking up a flight of stairs in Joffrey's direction without any complaining

@alexblake5369

21 күн бұрын

To be fair though it's more about the symbolism than it is the actual walk. The small council works for the King, not the Hand, so they should meet in a position that's most convenient for the King, not the Hand. By having the small council meet in the Hand's tower Tywin is basically stating to everyone that he is in charge, not Joffrey. And he pretty much is. Joffrey is just a figurehead while Tywin is, for all intents and purposes, the real king of Westeros. Tywin, and the audience, may roll their eyes at Joffrey's poor excuse for not attending the small council meetings but he actively encourages this behavior. A real Hand of the King would be dragging Joffrey to these meetings while lecturing them about the importance of these meetings and how he is to lead them. Tywin doesn't actually want Joffrey to become more educated and a better ruler, because that would represent a direct threat to HIS power. Tywin is not the Hand of the King, he is the Shadow King.

Poor old Joffrey. He ended up being right about the biggest thing of all, but because he was such a sob no one listened to him😁

@de0509

21 күн бұрын

Explains how EQ is also quite important. Theres a lot of corporate stories how asshat people run companies into the ground simply due to nobody liking them

@babytg93

5 күн бұрын

I used to think this was right but i saw a comment about how much fear they had for a powerless girl and essentially gave her power. If they hadn't tried to kill her and her baby she may have not wanted to be on the iron throne. She was happy with Khal Drogo. Her brother insisted on being king and she said herself she didn't want him to be. Even after Drogo died she could have been happy with her dragons just freeing slaves around her. Their fear of her is what gave her power and the desire to become Queen of King's Landing.

Tywin was the scariest with very few words.. smart and quick.. his only weakness is think was his hatred towards his son.. which ended him by his hands..

Can we all agree that Tywin is pure class even when he doesn't say anything. Man's got the presence of a true king 👏👏👏👏👏

This scene was masterful. It conveyed so much about the power dynamic with such little details.

Tywin climbing the steps without saying a word and then looming over Joffrey even had me intimidated 😂

the main cast in this show are so great. Jack as joffery played his role so well. People hated him so much they sent him death threats!

Joffrey: "I've been very busy, many important matters require King's attention." Tywin: *("Bullshit.")* "...of course."

Even his presence without say something shows how the king fears tywin

When he stands over him you can FEEL the very obvious shift in power and the one on the throne had NONE. BRILLIANT acting from them both!!!

Joffery in this scene was totally right. He was also right in season 1 when he told his mother about having a standing royal army.

The long strides. Tywin was intimidating. What a man.

i love how when he enters the room and the kingsguard walks behind him he stops for a moment letting them know to stop following him

I love the imposing camera angle! 😂

"I heard Dragons are back grandfather." "Yeah, they are." Joffery: da fuck? Mofo shouldn't we do something?? 😂

@djwoosie98

23 күн бұрын

Grandfather not uncle

Charles Dance's subtlety and brilliance at work here, but can we just take a moment to really appreciate Jack Gleeson's acting here? Kid's getting an acting masterclass, and keeping up without issue across an absolute legend.

Always loved how Tywin makes Joffrey uncomfortable in this scene, and smirks as he walks off.

didn't even ask if he was free to go, just left and mentioned "your grace" on the way out, as an afterthought. as if he forgot. but we know he didn't. the disrespect is real.

@KeyUploads

Ай бұрын

*_the king is tired._*

"We could arrange to have you carried." Translation:"I will k|ll you boy. I prefer Tommen anyway"

@moviedigest1

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@michaelbayer5094

3 ай бұрын

And soon Joffrey is dead. Coincidence?

Why if this isn’t such a fine grandfather and grandson moment?

The way he slowly walked up the stairs....Charles Dance is hot.

Tywin was so wrong about the dragons. It’s very ironic! 😂😂 And Joffrey being smart is ironic as well!

One of the few times the idiot king got something right and the master strategist got something dead wrong. If only Joffrey wasn't so inept in every other area of kingship, perhaps Tywin would've listened.

Charles dance such a phenomenal actor

Dude won like 6 wars. Everybody knew who was really boss round tht mf

The one time the kid was actually right

Mr Dance was perfect in his role as Tywin.

Lets hear it for the subtle glance aside when Tywin says "Of course.",in response to Joffrey complaining about many things requiring his attention. Thats one of those details that I love about Charles Dances' portrayal. Also noteworthy is Joffreys fscial expression after Tywin says "... whenever necessary." ,and turns to walk away.

Tywin is the guy who can be completely wrong but everyone thinks he won the argument because of his sheer confidence

Joffrey: complains about stairs. Tywin: climbs the stairs to the throne. Me: "Message received."

Charles Dance is a legend, but credit to Jack Gleason - his acting as Joffrey is superb.

Charles Dance is one of the best Vilain actors of all time

That look at 1:20. Tywins like " Of all Jaime's sperm you were the fastest." 😂

Charles Dance fucking smashed his role as tywin how he never earned an oscar is criminal. I never liked him when i first watched it but damn the second round you realise he was the master at the game of thrones

If you ever watch an interview with Charles Dance, he's incredibly warm and personable. He plays such intimidating characters that it's kind of a shock.

The moment Joffrey realizes who's really King.

Tywin walking down the steps like " I really run the realm not you little bastard" 😂

@jimslancio

22 күн бұрын

" ... you little bastard." And that was literally true.

Tywin's character screams "power" with every inch he moves. It's just adorable, how king Joffrey tries to compete, but fails.

"..whenever necessary" reminds me of Yes, Prime Minister.

I like how Joffrey changed the conversation when he knew that Tywin was getting annoyed 🤣🤣

Great actors

Charles Dance was born to play Tywin Lannister

Like so many people, Joeffrey doesn't even realises it when he is put in his place

1:20 i now have to climb the stairs Tywin = is there a problem 😒😒 Joffery = 😅😅😅

Tywin was such a bad ass

One does not speak to Tywin Lannister, He speaks to you!

This is the example of. A crown doesn't give you power

Tywin was the Victor Newman of the Seven Kingdoms

It's interesting how Joffrey feels lulled in his precious chair when the man beside him is actually disrespecting him by towering over

Tywin Lannister the king who never wore a crown

Kingsguard:- *escorts Tywin in* Tywin:- *stops and gives them a look* Kingsguard:- Kid, your on your own

I forgot how superb the actors were somehow. They nailed their roles

20seconds in... scene feels so lonely and cold and then you get a look at the iron chair. Shivers

As much as I love Tywin as a character, I have to give credit to Joffrey here, a more concerned and less passive stance in regard to Deanerys, would have been the smartest move going forward.

@ravenchain85

23 күн бұрын

In hindsight, yes. But Dany was a lesser threat to Joffrey at this point in the series. Her dragons weren't yet full grown, and she was occupied with her slave liberation campaign. Tywin knew Robb Stark and Stannis were much greater and more immediate concerns. Joffrey just showed how unfocused and outmatched he was as a king.

That pause in his gate to let the guards know that was far enough. That look on his face as he approaches the throne and again as he slowly makes his way up the steps. So fucking epic 👌

Tywin knew all along that he as the Hand was the true power behind the throne. Charles Dance's imposing height and powerful presence was perfect for the character.

One of the best scenes of the show

Tywin kinda pulls the Tony Soprano intimidation lol. Looming!

Subtitles killed it my dude

Joffrey was kind of smart in this scene though. His concern seems genuine and is just.

Tywin walking up the stairs with “Do you feel in control ?”

Dance is fantastic but the actor who plays Joffrey, Jack Gleeson, is so fantastic.

Joffrey was right there...

@michaelbayer5094

3 ай бұрын

Tywin has every intention to rule. He comes down to the throne room to make that plain to Joffrey. So, while Joffrey ie correct about the dragons. maybe Tywin is purposely dismissive ("curiosities") to placate the boy and make sure he does meddle in the affairs of state. Also, Tywin might believe Mormont is still on the payroll.

Well, we know who's the real boss.

The one time Joffrey was right, lol. Hilarious watching this scene and then immediately afterwards watching the scene from S7 where Dany attacks the Lannister army.

"We could arrange to have you carried" may be the most thinly veiled threat I've ever heard.

Tywin would have stopped the Night King with a speech and a condescending look.

King Joffrey was one of the best characters in GOT and the actor who played him absolutely nailed it

I wish Tywin Lannister was my thesis director!

Jose Mourinho and Roberto Mancini couldn't even handle Mario Balotelli 🤣

1:28 Joffrey realising hes just fucked with the one person in the seven Kingdoms who isn't scared of him

And then said curiosities proceed to destroy the Lannister army at the Battle of the Goldroad.

The few times Joffrey actually tries to govern, he’s not bad.

Two minutes in charge and the kid thinks he Lee Iacocca!

Joffery understands how powerful his grandfather is

This was probably thé only time Joffrey actually knew better then Tywin and funnily enough thé dragons ended up being thé undoing of thé lannisters in thé end

@JnEricsonx

7 күн бұрын

He also suggested a single unified army versus one made of different family's people, as I recall.

Moment he walked up!! Joffrey realised that he rubbed the wrong butt😂😂

A Rare Grand-Pa... In Many Terms... 😁😁😂😂