A little picky my ass!! You’re 100% right!!! No way that should have looked like that brand new!

@jerrywilson1775

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@5eyes1294

3 жыл бұрын

It's not an internal combustion engine that needs .0015" tolerances. It's a Rototiller.

@dj13yrs1

3 жыл бұрын

@@5eyes1294 well its a gear boc and they certainly do have clearances and a tolerance on all of those clearances not to mention the ball bearings Probably have a tighter than an engine dose...

@5eyes1294

3 жыл бұрын

@@dj13yrs1 The clearances on a LOW speed gear box on a rototiller probably have an acceptable tolerance of .040" from the factory, maybe even more. It is not a precision piece of equipment. The plates that hold the shafts and bearings are cut on a plasma or oxy/acetylene cut table. They aren't cut with a 5 axis mill. The surface layer of oxidization on those gears might be .004" at best. As far as the ball bearing, again it's a very low speed rotation. so to compare it to an automotive engine is a very poor choice. The longevity of the ball bearing with light surface oxidization, in a low speed operation, submerged in an oil bath will be a very long time.

Don't apologize for revealing a bad product. Glad they stepped up, but those barring's were toast.

@trulysurprised-bk7cy

3 жыл бұрын

Bearings

@lightning9279

3 жыл бұрын

@@trulysurprised-bk7cy Thanks. The world is a better place for you having corrected that.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

I was truly surprised

@trulysurprised-bk7cy

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightning9279 you are welcome !

Tractor supply is the Walmart of agricultural equipment.

@MacGyver-1

3 жыл бұрын

Any chain store that buys enough inventory, dictates to the manufacturer what price point they want to buy items at so they can keep low prices and still make a good margin. You want good stuff? Don't go to chain stores, and pay what good stuff is worth

@codyg7936

3 жыл бұрын

Except they don’t always have the best price

@PumpkinKingXXIII

3 жыл бұрын

@@codyg7936, sometimes they have different specs on the big box stuff. That’s how they make the price points.

@100texan2

3 жыл бұрын

@@codyg7936 I find that they are the Harbor freight of ag equipment but their prices are high.

@lewis2553

3 жыл бұрын

@@PumpkinKingXXIII Yeah, Sears used to have Poulan make Craftsman chainsaws, and their Kenmore washers were made by Whirlpool. But they'd change a dimension or two on the more expensive parts, so that you had to buy their parts instead of using cheaper Poulan and Whirlpool parts. But Craftsman and Kenmore parts were more expensive, so they had you. You might try to beat the system once or twice, but you'd get stuck with a competitor's part that wouldn't work and still have to buy their part! So there you are, Pumpkinhead!

I would have returned the whole unit and gone and bought a well made one. Wow!

I normally would have tried finding a higher quality unit on the used market to buy but I needed this in a jam for a big job the next day that I was making good money on. You really can't beat Tractor Supplies hours. After seeing that this unit had been sitting outside and looked a little rough, I was skeptical to buy it. But figured I'd make the money back on it next day so I decided to purchase it anyway. When I got home and went to fill the gearboxes this is what I found. Also, I didn't mention in the video but I did get a price break on this when I bought it, but only due to the fact that it was missing the drive shaft and slip clutch. If you're planning on purchasing a three-point tiller and want to get maximum life out of it, you should definitely watch this video. I'm not trying to bash Tartar, I was just disappointed to see that it had rust internally. I have two of these units and they are both still going strong with heavy use. I do think if you own one of these it's worth checking the shaft alignment. I am 100% sure that's what led to upper bearing failure as seen in my other video.

This is why I felt spending the extra $$$ for my Land Pride unit was well worth the cost. And when I got it home we dumped the gear boxes and went with the premium synthetic gear oil.

@nicke1903

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Kubota having Kverland,Vicon, Landpride has a wealth of proven engineering to pull from.

These are assembled by Tater Gate Company in Liberty Kentucky. If you seen how many times the place gets flooded out you would understand the rust. Recently there entire storage yard was completely under water.

@regdor8187

3 жыл бұрын

Now THAT is some relevant information....Allows a better value judgement re Tractor Supply...

@arlisspropertyservicesllc5943

3 жыл бұрын

I understand the rusting issue, but the misalignment prob is all on the assembler, and it certainly sucks.

@lewis2553

3 жыл бұрын

@@arlisspropertyservicesllc5943 No. The assembler works with the parts they give him/her . . . /it! The fit problem is on the, uh, dare we call him/her/it an engineer? They are the ones who determine dimensions between holes and whether or not a hole is round, square, or slotted.

@lewis2553

3 жыл бұрын

All gear cases will have some condensation, anyway, if they are stored in a place where the climate changes from hot to cold a lot, even if they are never outdoors or in a flood. It will be worse if there is more vacant space inside it. These should be filled to about an inch below the fill hole with oil instead of being stored dry. There are three ways to deal with condensation water in your gearbox. You can: A. Change the oil completely. B. Take out the drain plug and just let out enough to get rid of the water at the bottom before you use the unit and then refill it. Or C. Run the crap out of it, and let the heat drive it out.

Now I’ll use a borescope before buying sheep feed from tractor supply!! Thanks for being picky and helping others bro!!

we need ppl like you willing to go the extra mile!! Thank You!!!!

You aren't being picky. I'm glad you showed me this.

Good you had the foresite to check everything. Also good the manufacture shipped you replacement gear boxes.

You are more forgiving than most people That thing has way too many problems to pay that much and then take it upon yourself to fix it was brave

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

I figure I'd fix the few issues I had with it and hopefully I'll get many years of use from it. Guess we'll see. That or spend the extra coin

With my luck, they would say my taking it apart violated my warranty!

@jackbarrie6007

3 жыл бұрын

The count would change that

I can't believe you didn't send it back to TS as soon as you found water in the gear box.

Thank you, I'm getting ready to purchase one! Would have never thought of looking for that

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

No problem! Yeah definitely worth taking a peek in there too see if it's good. I'm sure it will be fine. This one probably sat for quite a few years outside

I bought a new Kodiak 6 foot tiller last year. It had stickers on it saying shipped with no oil in gear cases, but with only grease. I asked the dealer what kind of oil he put in it and he said it came with grease, they don't put any oil. When I got home I read the manual and it states to fill with gear oil, the grease is just for Shipping. I am glad I checked it myself. Just because you buy something new, it doesn't mean it is ready to go to work!

Thanks for this video. I just bought a 5-foot model of this yesterday and will check it out with my bore scope before I even start assembling it. If I find these type of things, I am taking it back. I will only use it occasionally, but at $1999, I only need to spend another $300 to get one from an implement company I typically do business with. I had seen positive reviews on these, but this is eye opening.

Bought my 50” Kuhn in 1999 and have used and abused it. Worn several sets of tines out. Now it’s 2 years later and I want to rebuild it, I went to a Kuhn dealer and priced replacement parts. The 3 bearings were $550, a new chain cover was $245, the little chain tensioner was $66. For all of the parts I needed were over $1200 plus tax and shipping to be added to that. It was only $1799 new and now the same model is close to $3k, wow!

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Thanks, I was going to pick up a new tiller from tractor supply today but when I saw your video I decided to bring some tools to have a peek inside the gear box before I buy

Good response from the company. I'm surprised but happy they sent you a new set of gearboxes! Good (older) video.

Wow! Thanks for sharing man. I have been curious about how they store all their equipment out in the elements. And the quality of their build. Glad i kept watching till the end.

Thank you Chris for bringing this to light.

I'm grateful I found this video because I was looking at buying a tiller for my l 3901 cabota so me and my wife Could grow some food and it's a good thing that came across this video because we are not going to go to Tractor to supply now.

GREAT video, guy - both content and concise presentation. Just learning about these as going with a friend to buy an old used one (Yanmar RS1400). Hard to believe anyone would assemble them with shafts misaligned like that.. strain on bearings from the beginning, but would take awhile for them to fail.

@terrysharp4376

Жыл бұрын

My thought,s exactly

I work for a company that makes these units we make all sorta of county line products from welding to assembling the all the black parts ive never personally welded thos tillers i do know most of the assembly parts gearboxes pto shafts exc are often kept outdoors with no regard for weather conditions ina flood prone area i wouldn't be surprised if thos where under water at one piont

Wow! Talk about timely. I just got a tractor from my sister and am starting to look for tillers. I won’t be checking out those. I actually bought a 12 cubic foot gorilla cart from TS Monday. I’ve been looking for 6 months actually went to that store. Talked to the right person and found one assembled out back. It had a half inch of nasty water, some various steel parts, and wheels from other carts. They did give me a 15% discount. The problem with tractor supply they seem to only hire young people with no clue how their products work.

Wow, I wouldn't have been nearly as friendly as you, there's no way I'd be swapping out equipment parts, they'd get the whole unit back for a replacement or cash.

I actually just rode by a local TS store looking for a 48 inch tiller 2 days ago. I am buying a tractor and the dealer didn't have one. Sure enough they had an entire pallet of them setting outside in the weather which I wasn't happy about. I never would have guessed that they shipped them with the gear boxes dry. The good news is my tractor dealer kept calling around to other dealerships until he found one and is going to assemble and install it on my tractor before he delivers it. Thanks for the heads up.

@CincinnatiDJL

3 жыл бұрын

Sad part is the dealer tiller most likley sits outside too. Have a large dealer close to me and EVERYTHING is sitting outdoor.

I've run a BCS for 12 yrs. I've never even looked at it's gears / bearings. I will this spring though.

Thanks for the video! I have different tillers and never thought about opening yhe gear case to inspect. Very cool. Glad they sent you a new one.

Friend of mine bought one and tilled up his yard. He beat it unmercifully tilling rocks and roots and didn't have any trouble. It would be good if they put some anti-rust coating on the gears since they are stored outside with no oil in the gearboxes.

Have a bobcat 5’ tiller, bought new, no oil in trans gearbox or trans mission gears housing. 3hours later it seized. Warranty will replace both, but the oversight by the company is inexcusable, and unnecessary. THE TILLER IS A BEAST, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PROPER USE.

Nice to hear TS will back up their product, now you will have a spare! The adjustments to alignment are common on a lot of low cost Chinese products. Thnx for the video!

Well Chris, I was just about to purchase a 72" County Line, but that ain't happening now! Thank you for posting this, and for showing us everything you did. Much appreciated. Looks like an Everything Attachments ER074 is getting ordered now. Thanks again for making up my mind!

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, great to hear it helped you solidify your purchase decision. Appreciate you dropping the comment. Thanks

I got a King Kutter from Orscheln's last year. Looks almost identical to this one. When I checked the service, the side gear compartment had over a pint of water in it. Fortuantly, it was serviced with 00 pourable grease. The angle gearbox was low too. Looking through the angle drive service plug hole, it didn't appear to have any rust nor the side cover either. BUT, the fill/drain service plug on the side cover had been tapped WAY off center and the plug was sitting so crooked it barely had threads on one side. Dodged the rust bullet though. KK did come through too and sent me a new side cover and gasket. I still had to supply my own lubricant. This kind of stuff is inexcussable.

I had the exact same experience with a finish mower. The store got with the representative and did the same thing. The rep sent a new unit to replace it. The stores leave all these PTO powered gearboxes outside with no lube forever.

That thing looks like it was in a flood and who knows what else. I'd of taken it back. I bought a new Tarter 48" tiller a week or so ago. Based on this video, I checked the gearboxes for rust and the shaft for alignment. The side gearbox was spotless, the top a tiny bit of rust. Removed the cir-clip to to allow for shaft movement and checked the alignment. It was spot on. Yours must of been a complete lemon down to the paint. Still looks like flood damage. Might of even been dropped or something major to get the alignment that far out of wack.

I purchased a 5' tiller 15 years ago from TSC I have countless hours on the tiller, tilling tree rows and large garden, I have hit big rocks hard with it and it just bounces up comes back down and says give me more. The tiller is a beast and I believe the absolute but tiller on the market. The volume of gear lube in the gear box is more than adequate to combat a bit of rust. I'm 69 years old and don't believe I'll need to purchase another tiller in my life time but would not hesitate a second to buy another from TSC!

I noticed the exact same thing on mine. I complained but didn’t insist on a different one since they were all the same. It lasted a couple of years before the bottom seal started to leak. In the process of putting back together this weekend.

I like the 2” receiver mod on the back of your original tiller. Gave me an idea about how to rig up two furrows for potato planting. 👍🏼

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man the hitch was definitely a great addition to it. I have another video on putting it on there if you're interested to check it out

They have improved them since. Mine came with oil and has worked well.

With that amount of play, ya need a universal joint in that drive shaft. 🤣

Was shopping for a tiller. Thank you!! I won't be buying that trash bin. You proved county line cares about filling their pockets and doesn't care about a good product to sell to customers. Wow so many issues. Back in the day my dad left all his farm equipment outside. And it would work everytime. Wouldn't rust out. No pride in their product.

I had a buddy who had the same issues. What he had done after replacing the bearing, he replaced the straight shaft with a heavy duty yoked shaft. And he has no problem with it since. That has been about 5 years ago. It is something worth thinking about.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a fix that would work good, but I think just lining the boxes up works well also. I haven't had a problem since this

You have every right to be mad that’s bull crap there shouldn’t be a speck of rust in a gear box or bearings you did the right thing checking it out

You are right. 100% right. Good video. TSC needs to know this also.

I worked for TSC for 2.5 years. I saw many of those sit outside for at least that long. But, like you said, these are more of a "budget" 3 point attachment than a quality one. At least they did warranty the gearboxes for you.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a shame they let them sit outside like that. They should really just invest in some kind of big lean-to off the building to the store the implements under. But even then, this problem would still happen with the temperature changes and no lubricant or anti-corrosive in the gearboxes. That's the main problem. But yeah, I was pretty shocked and thankful that they warrantied the gearboxes.

@officialWWM

4 жыл бұрын

So what are you saying? Because they are low budget, it's ok to leave them sitting around outside for years!?

@pauljohnson7486

4 жыл бұрын

$1700 is not a budget buy from where I come from for anything.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

@@pauljohnson7486 yeah that's what I'm saying, 1700 is a big chunk of change. Certainly budget when it comes to tillers though. Most name brands are more like 2500 for this size. And if one of those pitted bearings ended up wiping out the gear case in the future, there's another $800

@davidmathay7117

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, budget is relative when it comes to some 3 point attachments. And I 1000% agree with nononsenseknowhow that some kind of anti-corrosive should be sprayed in those cases when they are assembled. Cheap Chinese quality for you. The finish and brush mowers are the same way. I use to do assembly for the store I worked at. Cheap was kinda the name of the game for some stuff. Kinda falling into the same category as Harbor Freight. Perfectly fine for occasional use, but buy something better if you are going to beat on it daily for 6, 8, 10+ hours at a time.

It was assembled in the USA. They import most of mechanical in shipping containers. That is why there was no oil and rust. They can't ship it with fluids.The containers are not always water a tight and salt water spray gets in everywhere. The gearboxes still are influenced by atmospheric through breathers. BS that no one at tractor supply went through it.

Now that you have taken the unnecessary pressure off the bearing it should last a long time.

Looks like a piece of antique equipment that's been sitting out on the fence line for 20 years

Thank you for informing on tiller problems. I wouldn't of known these issues other wise.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

I was actually thinking about buying this tiller. Glad i seen this first. I guess I'll keep looking.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

They're not a bad tiller as long as you check for the few items I mentioned in this video. This one had clearly been sitting outside for too long. Mine is still going strong

That will last the long haul now !! Just them small adjustments saved it's life !!

I looked at one of these at the store by my house at Tractor supply.. Being in phoenix, AZ we have less rain etc and they looked much cleaner than this... but there are bad stock sitting at various stores for sure.

However one of the best tillers made! Went thru two king cutter tillers under warranty. Have a rocky farm this brand of tiller held up to the abuse! Mine was sitting outside at the store 2 years before purchase so mine was rusty too.

Dang...I was just getting ready to plunk down $2600+ dollars on a 60". Thanks for the heads up on that!

This is why youtube is so great. It keeps accountability in check for all these big "companies"

Osphoric acid on bare metal where rust pops up wire brush clean spray ospho on bare metal let dry wire brush then red oxide primer then yellow paint Do this your rust issues are history. I do this method on bare engine blocks or any metal ...your 100 % dead on being picky paying that kind of money For equipment. 75w -90 valvoline synthetic gear oil should last few years . With frequent changes. Great video great information and definitely would have Bearing failure before 100 hours if you didn't give a good pre run inspection.----..... again great video

Thanks for sharing. The inside should have been coated and they should not have painted over the rust. Imagine what they are putting in our medical supplies and food items

That was terrible. Nice job inspecting. Good job on the company for sending you new parts, although you gotta do the work. But it will probably last a lot longer than if you would have added oil and went on. Great video thanks. I was actually in the market for a tiller I'm glad I watched this video.

Looks like something that was used and then returned for whatever reason...then touched up and resold... Good luck 🤞

I am in the process of restoring a cub cadet 1a tiller. 40 year old grease is pretty dry. But was still a lot in it. They dont build stuff like they use to.

This makes me happy that I spent the extra money. On a better quality unit. The salesman at the implement dealership told me to steer clear of any gear driven tiller also. He said the chain driven ones are less prone to catastrophic failure.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I got no beef with a change-driven tiller. My Kubota R40C lasted around a thousand hours until the shaft snapped in half. But that was very heavy use

i just bought this unit. Man it never crossed my mind to check this. Thank you!

appreciate the video, BUT, and I know people hate that, but, any metal that sits through a winter in a non heated environment, is going to have condensation happen, it's a fact of life. That's where the moisture inside came from. condensation. This is why I change my oil in EVERYTHING before I start using it after sitting for the winter, can't afford to heat my storage buildings. I'd say this tiller obviously sat through a winter in a warehouse or even outside.

Just so you know folks, there was a container ship in Saipan a few years ago that capsized and partially sank and had over 40 big container boxes swamped with salt water that were filled with Tractor supply and AGCO and other discount brand farm/garden equipment. A Lot the stuff was salvaged and hosed off and sent on to their destinations all over the Country.

@santini1953

3 жыл бұрын

Prove what you say

You get what you pay for my Man, but that being said talk about excellent customer service!!!!

Being new, It should be bright and shiny. Nice of them to make you do the labor. I would of exchanged it.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Long story, but i needed it for a job next day that was paying alot. So it made sense at time

Wow thank you, hope to be buying a tiller in the next 12 months! I’ll skip TSC for my tiller!!!

You'd think the company making these would have seen these issues and corrected them a long time ago. Quality assurance is a must.

@silent1967

3 жыл бұрын

It's called Chinese communist junk.

@regdor8187

3 жыл бұрын

@@silent1967 : Not necessarily the cause of this review....

@silent1967

3 жыл бұрын

@@regdor8187 Wanna bet.

Man thanks alot for your time and the video but you must have 20 hours+ figuring all that Crap out not to say your travel time and GAS!!! Thanks again😇😁😇

I bought one but it was only on the lot for a month, I looked at seals and in gear box, moisture in there but no rust. Thanks for the heads up!

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Gotya. Thats good. And no prob.

Mine was bought from a reputable dealer, not TS. It's never been rained on the whole time I've had it because it's garage kept.

W o W good thing you checked ! Nothing like breaking down when its 30 above ! 🤗

The reminds me of the Chinese metalworking lathe I bought, back in 2004. It lasted 5 hours, before going up in flames. Yeah, sure, I fixed it, but heck, I was expecting at least 10 hours out of it, before it went boom!

@riverotterluresericdenson9216

2 жыл бұрын

Rofl. I got a cnc router from china that was wired backwards. By the time i got the dam control box rebuilt im pretty sure i was a certified electrical engineer.

@CNCmachiningisfun

2 жыл бұрын

@@riverotterluresericdenson9216 Yup. It looks like Chinese products have the power to turn us into repair experts ;) .

I bought one of those from Tractor Supply and with in a half hour of using it the seal went out for the input shaft. I paid cash for it, took it back and had to wait 2 weeks for them to mail me a check so I could purchase another one from Rural King because they didn't have another one on the lot. I was super pissed, but I am extremely happy with the one I got from Rural King.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, sounds like they need to step up their quality control on these. Glad you were able to return it

@ronbell802

3 жыл бұрын

The one from Ruralking is made in Louisiana

@icontrolmyownguns2096

2 жыл бұрын

Kopplin, I'm surprised that they didn't give you your money back at the same time you returned it to Tractor supply.

@kopplinfamily7529

2 жыл бұрын

@@icontrolmyownguns2096 They said they didn’t have that kind of cash in the store. I was dude I just paid cash for this thing an hour and a half ago.

@icontrolmyownguns2096

2 жыл бұрын

@@kopplinfamily7529 That sucks. Like you said you just paid cash an hour and a half before, so they were bound to have still had it. When these businesses start doing things like that, they're gonna lose alot of future business

I'd find a used Woods or BushHog brand before buying any implement from TSC, unless I was planning on severely abusing it and didn't care.

If you can find a date of Mfg it just may give you some indication of just how long it's been sitting outside at that box store. If it does not have a date stamp then ask the manager when they got it . It's pretty sad to see that on new piece but the heads up is worth a million bucks.

Great video.. I was gonna buy one of these tillers because I hear it is reversible.. I really like that fact.. and it’s a really good price compared to other tillers.. gotta expect some faults for sure but rust is bull crap cuz they could have easily pre-greased or lubed all the bare metal gears and casings and not had this happen.. if/when I buy one, I’ll be making sure it’s a new unit that hasn’t been sitting around long, and I’ll be sure to check it over carefully before sale. Thanks for your video!

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are good units overall. It's a shame they let them sit outside and like you said don't prelube the cases. Good luck with your purchase and glad to hear the video was helpful

@BiffsEquipment

3 жыл бұрын

NoNonsenseKnowHow thanks man, and it sure was 👍🏻

That's just normal these days. People have forgotten how to manufacture. I've seen it on just about everything, wires not being in the looms rubbing in places they shouldn't, gear boxes not coated in grease or prelube to prevent rust, basic equipment designs that fail within a year on something so basic it should last a lifetime, shit that didn't need to be "reengineered". I could on and on but no one really seems to care anymore.

Glad you made this bc I was thinking ab getting one of those That’s definitely unacceptable

Tractor supply stores keep their ag equipment outside even through the winter. Sometimes so long the paint fades.

When you buy new, expect new. No you are not picky. I get ill with tractor supply also. In Columbus,Ga. They leave alot of stuff outside in the elements, not covered up or nothing. Bought a poulan yard tractor(riding lawnmower). SMOKED from day one,but its still running 3 years later after resealing some covers. Still have issues with it starting because the decompression dog (Flange) broke on the cam.

I bought one of their yellow County Line? hay forks that fit on a loader, it bent with a light (800 lb.) round bale of hay that I failed to put on straight and it turned. I don't plan to ever buy any equipment over $20 from them again. Their 7ft t-posts are okay.

They Should have at least shipped it with a spray on rust preventative, that’s how most bare metal parts ship from machine shops. Cosmolube is one brand but there are others. They ship dry to avoid having to worry about leaking oil (hazmat) since to fit as many on a trailer as they can they sometimes stack them in orientations where they’d leak.

Holy shit snacks. I'm going check my tiller next chance I get. I bought my tiller new, different brand, and it sat out in the dealership's field for a couple years. I got it dirt cheap bc he went out of business

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you're luckier than I was and everything's all good

Great the company stood behind their product

We have 2 of the 60" ones. They get used, never had an issue.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet. Good to hear

We just bought the 7 foot model this summer and tractor supply and it was at least that rusty if not worse

Looking to buy a tiller for my tractor, sure glad I saw this video.

You did a great job and help everyone out

I wish this video had came out before I bought mine. I'll be checking mine before I use it again.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hear you on that man. Let me know what you find with yours. Definitely a good call to take a look

Patina sound good it used to be called rust

Very informative! You were much more accepting that I would have been. I hope county line compensated you somehow for all of the work that you had to do to get the gear boxes changed. I assume you did it yourself? Great video!

Thanks for giving us a heads up on this matter, I appreciate it.

What did you expect? Everything at Tractor Supply sits out in the rain and snow for months.And it was already garbage when it left the factory. You only go to Tractor Supply if there isn’t a Rural King within driving distance.

@Matt-mq1ep

3 жыл бұрын

We have a Rural King here, its a dump. Id buy stuff at walmart before Rural King. No Tractor Supply close.

Just bought this same tiller two days ago. Same issue with rusty side gears. Had 1/2 cup wtr in bottom. Amazing bearings weren’t rusty, only gears and cover. My tillers paint job was fine so I might believe the salesman that it was only 3 months sitting. Tines were a little rusty. I think yours may have been from last season given the severity of external rust. My gear box seems ok. Will scope it tomorrow. Thanks for misalignment tip. Will be checking that next. Unbelievable SOBs at Tarter too damn cheap to spray these insides with 10c worth of lube before shipping. My vent ball on the side cover was also rusted shut. Honestly I think it happens in transit on the back of an open flatbed semi in winter when they ship most of these. Or even just in rain going down the highway.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one that had a crummy experience. Luckily after I reaching out to them they sent me new gear boxes after seeing the pictures though

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Let me know what you find with the alignment. I'm willing to bet it's off like both of mine were

@donv6039

4 жыл бұрын

Pulled the cover on my center gear box. Luckily was clean as your new one. Had a time with the outer hub. Was pumping grease into it an it let out a loud crack. Thought I had blew the grease seal. Turns out was just some amber factory grease exploding past the seal. Seal goes in from the outside behind the bearing so it can’t really “blow out”. Ran out of weekend re shaft align check. Might just leave it be for now.

@NoNonsenseKnowHow

4 жыл бұрын

Got you. Well glad to hear your gears werent crusty like mine!

@donv6039

4 жыл бұрын

Also, FYI that the “outer hub bearing” is a “self aligning bearing”. Marked as “LAB 1310”. I thought the damn thing was bad at first. The whole inner shaft/flange was wobbling around like crazy after I took the hub off. Makes sense though with all the misalignment between the tiller frame, the tine shaft, etc. Was a chore dropping the shaft to pull that hub but now I have some piece of mind and a bit of info not mentioned in the manual or by Tarter. They don’t even list internal parts for the outer hub. Gotta buy the whole thing for $110. Or source your own parts. FYI

They use stitch welding instead of a continuous weld, that allows water to get in and rust.

They all sit outside, rain, snow and boiling sun. I bought a brand new log splitter, couldn't pull the starter rope. Took out the sparkplug two gallons of water pours out. Had to change my engine oil twice in the first 30 minutes of running time. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is simple, contact the manufacturer to make it right.