WATCH PHOTOGRAPHY - CLIENT SHOOT

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C H A P T E R S
00:00 Welcome
00:15 Intro
01:13 The client
01:36 The set up
02:12 Arca Cube + Manfrotto 3-way head
03:05 The PGI process
03:38 Camera + lens
03:44 First shot
04:01 First flash
05:08 Diffused light
05:38 IKEA Melodi pendant
07:38 Reflector + grid
08:06 Second flash
08:35 The post process work explained
09:25 Photoshop quick look
11:23 Focus stacking explained
11:58 How to place the flashes correct
12:22 The other angles to shoot
13:05 Outro

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  • @botvidsson
    @botvidsson Жыл бұрын

    If you like to see the final image in higher resolution: www.botvidsson.se/product

  • @Q80splendor
    @Q80splendor Жыл бұрын

    You are the best artist so far in youtube , I enjoy learning from you. All the best.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much 😀 You just made my day. Makes me so glad to hear this.

  • @Kumnak

    @Kumnak

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agreed

  • @sunilchitolie6771
    @sunilchitolie6771 Жыл бұрын

    Your work is simply amazing, nothing more to it, just the best.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you! Very kind.

  • @iquraishi
    @iquraishi Жыл бұрын

    Good to see you back in action Martin! :)

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks man!

  • @karolciesla3746
    @karolciesla3746 Жыл бұрын

    You cant just leave us without a postpro video :D. After seeing the final edited version i just have to see how you have done it Martin! A-MA-ZING JOB!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    I will do a post prod video! Absolutely! Coming soon my friend!

  • @AricanTonic
    @AricanTonic Жыл бұрын

    It is good to see you Martin 🙏🏾 Your retouching work is so clean…this is crazy !!!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much 😀 Loads of work, many many hours unfortunately but hey, what can you do? 😁

  • @designalpha5564
    @designalpha5564 Жыл бұрын

    As always great work Martin and I hope you're doing well. We had a client wanted us to photoshoot jewellery photos for her e-shop (each ring or earring would cost about 2000 to 10000 euros per piece). She wanted to pay only 30-40 euros for each final edited photo, she said that even 40 euros seems expensive to her !!! They don't understand the work and effort in order to achieve professional results, none wants to pay.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    I would just tell the client: Good luck. I feel your frustration and nowadays I don't even take the discussion about pricing, it's just a waste of time. Many clients are inexperienced image buyers and some say we need to inform and educate around pricing. I just don't have the strength to do so nowadays. First thing I do when I get approached by a new client is to ask what budget they have. I also add that my prices are around USD400-800 per photo depending on what kind of photo they like to have. The sad news is that 90% will just disappear. Silence. But, I prefer to do one good payed job per month instead of 5 low payed jobs.

  • @PCcardboard1354
    @PCcardboard1354 Жыл бұрын

    This is what i have been waiting for fo rso long!!! a REAL client shoot!!!!!!!!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Great! I have some more client shoots under the coffee supporter member area. 😁

  • @RomanSkateboarding
    @RomanSkateboarding Жыл бұрын

    The back and forth between the raw version and the final result really blew my mind. Amazing job, Martin!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Big thanks mate! Yes, a lot of retouching. A lot!

  • @marekpr5801
    @marekpr5801 Жыл бұрын

    Love You! It's that what I have been looking for!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    That's great!

  • @sabelosibisi9762
    @sabelosibisi9762 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing work ethic!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @speterlewis
    @speterlewis Жыл бұрын

    This was wonderful, Martin. It's always great to see you work through the process (and it helps us in our work). And I'm glad you talked so much about post-processing and the huge amount of time it can take...even if it is fun. I constantly have to remind my clients that shooting is the easy and fast part, maybe only 20% of the total time it will take to make their final image. And, unlike landscape photography where a focus stack can just be a few images, in product photography, we take a lot of slices (although typically not 200, LOL). Keep cranking out the great content!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Peter, big thanks. The sad part of it all is that I have to stop shooting watches, that I love, no one can afford to pay a reasonable price. But there's a lot of other fun stuff to shoot so, happy days 😁

  • @gauravsawn
    @gauravsawn Жыл бұрын

    amazing and enlightening work!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @hermanlopez2945
    @hermanlopez2945 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your tips. Great video

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @TaavP
    @TaavP Жыл бұрын

    That heavy HEAVY photoshop work there. And here i was today removing cements bags from a corner with grass and gradient light on the texture wall. thinking I was all powerful xD Will love showing the before and after to clients xD

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    😁 Great mate!

  • @markbeeversaddictedalround6574
    @markbeeversaddictedalround6574 Жыл бұрын

    Really cool Martin, i started watching your videos years ago,when i started to learn photography my photography has come along way and thats thanks to people like you sharing this information.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful Mark. So nice to hear you say this. Thanks for sticking around!

  • @scottcunningham4115
    @scottcunningham4115 Жыл бұрын

    Learnt a lot as always. Great to see you back Martin..! Hope your recovery is behind you now. 😊

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Soon my friend, soon.

  • @renatozorn7162
    @renatozorn7162 Жыл бұрын

    Wooooooow! Congrats!!!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @alexanderbaluev
    @alexanderbaluev8 ай бұрын

    Hello! In order to place the watches cover glass parallel to camera sensor you can to point the central focusing point to the center of the watches and rotate them to see the reflection of the front lense of the camera lense symmetrical to central focussing point. I hope my explanation is not too complicated ) Have a nice day!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    8 ай бұрын

    That was very smart, I will try that next time. Thanks!

  • @karanarora9437
    @karanarora9437 Жыл бұрын

    Solid work as always. Very informative and helpful. Thanks for sharing 😁

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @LeventavcBLOG
    @LeventavcBLOG Жыл бұрын

    Great good to see you back cheers.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks!

  • @AgIg07
    @AgIg07 Жыл бұрын

    Отличная работа!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Спасибі

  • @stefanschroder4329
    @stefanschroder4329 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see you back I hope you are fine🤩👍

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, thank you. Getting better every day.

  • @fotoHORYZONT
    @fotoHORYZONT Жыл бұрын

    Martin - as always great job and informative explanation of what you do as a professional. Thanks a lot. Greets from Poland :)

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Many thanks Piotr!!

  • @danadiab9031
    @danadiab9031 Жыл бұрын

    amazing wok! it would be great if you can show us how you do the retouching in photoshop.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    I will try to do a video on that.

  • @krisztiankomjati4095

    @krisztiankomjati4095

    6 ай бұрын

    Hello @@botvidsson have you happened to make this video of the retouching of this particular shoot? If not something similar?

  • @user-ed4sg4ht3d
    @user-ed4sg4ht3d Жыл бұрын

    Legend from Sweden )))

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    😁😁😁

  • @CrazyAboutLife
    @CrazyAboutLife Жыл бұрын

    Beautifull image Martin :)

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you man! Cheers!

  • @alexgrimadesign
    @alexgrimadesign Жыл бұрын

    Nice work 🔥🔥

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🔥Alex!

  • @alirezagholampoor4245
    @alirezagholampoor4245 Жыл бұрын

    good to see u , long time no see u

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @lozinski86
    @lozinski86 Жыл бұрын

    Hej Martin, ny kaffesupporter här! Foto är ett alltmer växande intresse hos mig och vill verkligen ge mig in i produktfoto. Du ger mig enormt mkt kunskap och inspiration inom området. Så tack för en otrolig kanal och fint att du är på benen igen. allt gott! /Anton

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Hallå Anton och supertack för att du stöttar kanalen. Ja snart är jag nog helt återställd och kan prodda lite mer kul videos. Kommer två till klock-videos inom kort. Ha det fint!

  • @photobeis
    @photobeis Жыл бұрын

    PGI I LOVE 😍

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too! 😁

  • @Justas49
    @Justas49 Жыл бұрын

    PGI letters keeps industry more relevant next to CGI 😂

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    😁

  • @ingohoffmann9450
    @ingohoffmann945010 ай бұрын

    bester Kanal

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks mate!

  • @pvetesnik
    @pvetesnik Жыл бұрын

    I know your feeling and I dione exactly the same :) I feel your pain hahahaha

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    😁 Yeah, life of a photographer. Only a fellow photographer can understand.

  • @pvetesnik

    @pvetesnik

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson I actually have those lamp shades in kitchen and when need to shoot watches I just remove it and use it. It is very awesome solution :) but your result is much nicer :) I was supposed to shoot 3 different watches in combination with 13 different bands :D and as you said 90 procent of postproduction 10 percent of shooting. I spent 2 days shooting and like a month editing. It was a nightmare (kind off) 😂

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah cool! Yes, that's how it is. Edit edit edit... 😁

  • @tedming3515
    @tedming3515 Жыл бұрын

    As someone said: "There are two calamities in this life: 1) having a job; 2) not having a job 😆😆😆😆😆 Still wanna complain, Martin?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    True! 😁😁😁 Well, if I could not share this photo shoot with you guys here om KZread I would not take on this job. Nowadays I actually pick the 2nd option more and more often... poor and proud! Or something like that 😁

  • @tedming3515

    @tedming3515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson This watch is an excellent work, Martin! I hope you don't go on starving there in Sweden because of the lack of work and will keep on giving us joy with your work. 🙂

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    I will survive 😁 Thanks again!

  • @tedming3515

    @tedming3515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson Please do, Martin. Stay alive and do your work. 😆😆 kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5Z3mMaFd8LKgbw.html

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! 😁😁😂

  • @krisztiankomjati4095
    @krisztiankomjati40953 ай бұрын

    Hey, great video, love it! How can the issue of the cone being at a considerable distance from the product be resolved? Using zoom? Even if considering that zooming in reduces the photo quality? Without using zoom, the product appears quite small in the image, and as I know distance from the subject and zooming in (changing focal length) is not the same thing. I learned that it might be related to the so called focal length, however still don't understand if the cone limits you moving closer to the subject what should you do?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    3 ай бұрын

    I understand, I experienced the same thing shooting rings with the cone, so I just changed the lens, a zoom. No problem.

  • @krisztiankomjati4095

    @krisztiankomjati4095

    3 ай бұрын

    @@botvidsson Hey! Oh, could you please explain more in depth what do you mean you changed the lens? Because I experienced that using a higher focal length lens might not solve the problem where you are to far away from the product just like in this case where you have limited access or moving capabilities :/

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh sorry I misunderstood. You mean that you can't come close with an IKEA cone shooting small jewellery? That's a problem yes, maybe cut the hole a bit bigger 😁

  • @fotosbyDanny
    @fotosbyDanny Жыл бұрын

    Great work as always Martin! I would love to see how you rigged the watch for the back shot. How did you hold the strap and bracelet open? I'm guessing wires? The shots look incredible. Also, what is your preferred technique in post for smoothing textures? Finally, would you say digital backs are the most optimal format for Watch photography in particular because of their resolution? I've been thinking about saving up for H5D or an older Phase IQ system. Would love to see a comparison video between your hassy and canon on a product shot. Keep the videos coming !

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's a raw shot of the black watch: shared-assets.adobe.com/link/3231bf59-a75c-46aa-43d4-b2c53201060b It might be hard to see but I just took a white wooden brick and leaned the watch. Also I put a bit of blue tac so the watch will not glide. On the steel watch I did the same thing (link open yes) and used some gaffa tape to hold the link up: shared-assets.adobe.com/link/a425c8df-f407-454f-4b2c-34750dbf63be Smoothing textures, I try to avoid that as much as possible cuz it often looks bad. However, on the black rubber strap I used Median in Photoshop. I also use a frequency separation action from time to time to keep the texture and smooth out the colors below. I never tested any PhaseOne so I can't talk about it. When it comes to my old H5D 50MS Hasselblad camera you will still today get a greater result than any regular DSLR or mirrorless camera. You have the 16-bit colour depth and that's amazing, it delivers smoother tonal transitions. Very important if you shoot like me with a lot of gradient lighting. The bad thing about my old Hasselblad is that I can only shoot at the lowest ISO, if I crank it up to ISO400-800 the files will be trash. Not often you need to change the ISO in a studio senario but sometimes it is a bit frustrating. I will try to do a comparison video between the Hasselblad and Canon. Compare the quality of the tonal transitions. Thanks!!

  • @ules714

    @ules714

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson Great insight, thank you Martin! By the way, have you considered developing product photography courses? I think your style of explaining theory and knowledge of the subject matter is unlike anyone on KZread. By far one of the best channels on KZread for learning and gaining new skills.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ules714 Wow, huge thanks. Well, I do have courses/workshops from time to time. When I get some time over I will add this to my website. Did you have digital courses in mind or?

  • @ules714

    @ules714

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson Sure, as much as I would like to see more in-depth product work, I think some food photography videos would be great. Your food photography is unique with your use of lighting and shadow play. Would love to see more of that and your creative process from pre-production to post work. Perhaps some videos on photoshop in regards to retouching. I think post-processing is where a lot of photographers fail or have difficulty and your retouching is world class. Also, shoot more watches and jewelry :)

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually started out as a pro retoucher before I became a photographer so... I guess I should do more Photoshop videos... working on it. So little time so much fun videos to make. 😁

  • @samcooper5539
    @samcooper5539 Жыл бұрын

    gorgeous work! So how many days did it take you to complete the whole project? were you able to work faster with each photo as you went?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    In total I took 8 photos. Don’t know how long it took, maybe 2-3 weeks. Hard to say cuz I did other shoots in-between. Nowadays I rarely take on watch shoots cuz it’s impossible to charge a reasonable price. This time I did the shoot for the KZread channel and the coffee supporters. I see it as an investment into the KZread channel. Thanks man! 😁

  • @James_m7

    @James_m7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson what is the going rate for a shoot like this nowadays?

  • @toddtucker323
    @toddtucker323 Жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel and love it. Question. Why do you have to focus stack? Will shooting at a high aperture not get everything in focus? F8 or F11?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    When you’re very close you have to stack, only a tiny part will be sharp even if you go to f32 or something like that crazy. Also, when you go extremely high f-number you loose the over all sharpness. Thanks mate!

  • @toddtucker323

    @toddtucker323

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson thanks!

  • @ruslanalpysbayev1209
    @ruslanalpysbayev1209 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Could you tell what software you use for capturing the shot? And why did you switch from Capture One to this program?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    The software is Phocus and it's for Hasselblad cameras. When I photograph with my Canon I still use CaptureOne. Thanks!

  • @tamasbrenyo1348
    @tamasbrenyo1348 Жыл бұрын

    I don't have a macro lens, just a 24-70 & 70-200. Is it possible to create a similar picture to this one or it's very limited?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    The Canon 24-70 you can go close I think. Works great. If you have a camera with a crop sensor, even better.

  • @tamasbrenyo1348

    @tamasbrenyo1348

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botvidsson Good to hear that, thanks for the quick response. I have a 5d mk II so full frame.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tamasbrenyo1348 I mean, if you don't need to take close up macro photos, any lens will do. Personally I prefer the look of 70mm, 85mm, 100mm ish kind of photos.

  • @tamasbrenyo1348

    @tamasbrenyo1348

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@botvidssonWell I would like to replicate this very pespective you had here, which is not a super macro close up.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, you can do that

  • @zbenji229
    @zbenji2294 ай бұрын

    how do you move the crown in in photoshop?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    4 ай бұрын

    Just cut it out with the pen tool, copy to separate layer and move the crown in.

  • @enricoviappiani4305
    @enricoviappiani4305 Жыл бұрын

    My main problem as photographer is to tell the client my prices. Everyone refuses after that. Only 3 or 4 photographers works in the whole country. That's so demotivating. I'm about to quit. So frustrating.

  • @Readingworld2023

    @Readingworld2023

    Жыл бұрын

    Just do like me, i ask the client ( are you looking for a price or quality? ) , and always remember to let your work speak on behalf of you!

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds tuff and I know how it is, I turn down one watch client per week... very frustrating. But don't give up, find a way!

  • @pravinxp
    @pravinxp Жыл бұрын

    Ikea product link available ?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/melodi-pendant-lamp-white-10386539/ Not sure if it's available all around the world.

  • @johnnymossville
    @johnnymossville Жыл бұрын

    I do cgi renderings of watches when the watch doesn't exist yet, otherwise, photography is best.

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah of course, I did not think about that. The watches I shot this time are pre-production, not ideal. I must say that I kind of changed my mind, CGI is the way to go, photography will be way too expensive. The retouching will take too much time.

  • @meh2063

    @meh2063

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@botvidssonboth take time, with CGI you must figure out how to get the exact shapes as the real watch, no tolerance for mistakes.

  • @dooboo1976
    @dooboo1976 Жыл бұрын

    What's up?

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch photography! 😁

  • @Knowledgeseeker70
    @Knowledgeseeker70 Жыл бұрын

    Photographers slowly moving to cgi now a days especially for automotive and products... No need to focus stack and clean the image to insane levels...

  • @botvidsson

    @botvidsson

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, no one can afford photography nowadays and IMHO, the CGI at the top level watch brands often look like... CGI.