I've not finished the video yet but had to comment on the pricing part at the beginning. I get contacted constantly by start-up watch brands (sometimes 2-3 times per week) and I have exactly the same experience. Personally, and I do this with all my smaller clients, I give them options. Something like, if you want the best quality imagery possible it will cost "X", if that is beyond your budget then lets come up with a brief which works for you. If they actually have some budget (not something silly like £200) then we can sometimes land in a place which works for us both. This might be by modifying the brief (simplifying or reducing quantity) or lowering the quality of the final output. It's hard with watches as start-ups just don't realise the complexity but giving them options does sometimes work. Thanks for the video! Looking forward to watching the rest

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃 Thanks! Well, I think it's so hard to reduce the quality by purpose when I take photos, it's like a knife in my heart 🥴 But I understand what you're saying, I just wish I could find a solution to work with all potential clients. Often it's like super small budget or big budget in my experience.

@maxbridge8921

4 жыл бұрын

Completely! I hate reducing the quality, never a fun experience, you always feel rushed and am never happy with the result. At the same time, it's better for the brand as they get a photographer who knows what they're doing, as opposed to someone who charges £200 and creates a poor photo, and it's better for you as you get paid. It took me a long time to be able to do this but I'm OK at it now. I normally start by thinking about it in terms of time. It would take me X amount of time in both production and post-production to do this perfectly. With your budget ("your" being a prospective client) I will only have half the time, or a quarter of the time. Then, when I'm shooting and retouching I'm really strict and only give myself the amount of time my client could afford. They still get a pretty good shot and I still get paid. Don't get me wrong, it's really hard working like that and I don't like it but very few start-ups can afford me if I don't modify how I shoot. When doing this it's really important to set expectations. That took me a while to get right. Oh, and there's a limit of course. Some people just have no budget (or very little) and I can't help there!

I've got to say your product tutorials are the best on KZread (in my opinion). You don't ramble on with irrelevant info, I like your sense of humour, I really appreciate how you just 'see what happens' when you move things around, like you're discovering the shots with us. Keep up the great content!

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks! Very happy to hear that.

Already watch all your videos and I'm not a photographer... great job man!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

That's absolutely fantastic! Thanks!

Clients are like: "1000 euros for a shot? You just need to press a button"

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! 🤣🤣🤣

@DanielleDeutschTV

3 жыл бұрын

Alright “smart client” then why don’t YOU do that and let me know how it works for you. 🤣🤣🤣

@marek_vanco_photo

6 ай бұрын

​@@botvidssonyou can reply: so press the button yourself then.

Just started getting into the world of product photography, received my first job 2 weeks ago and now I've found your channel. You have been such an amazing help and motivator for my new side hustle. Coffee is KING!!!

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help! Thanks for the kind words!

I am a professional photographer from China, totally love your work and you have earned my respect! This is the best photography channel on my list!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Very very kind! Thanks 🙏🏻😃

So much good info! Thanks Botvidsson!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏🏻 Thanks!

Another excellent video, great work!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This is my favorite video of yours so far! I also love how you tell the truth in the beginning about pricing. Clients often have no idea how much work goes into making high-end product shots. To be honest 1k per day is still very cheap for that kind of work. Well done!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, it's like charging for your time, not the work and skills = no profit

Outstanding work as always, Martin!! Thank you.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻😃

Always a pleasure watching you work. Should call you Mr.Gradient :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe, thanks a lot!

Great video! amazing as always. Thank you very much!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏🏻 Thanks!

Love your watch work. I also love the challenge of photographing metalic and glass objects.

@botvidsson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much James.

Another great video, thanks! :D

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I love that you talked about pricing. I get that from clients too. Like I just have a camera and a desk lamp. I also have 20 years experience, insurance, studio rent, equipment maintenance .... I love what you do and how you talk through your setups. Thanks Martin!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes it's frustrating to deal with inexperienced photo buyers.

Shooting a watch is just a different beast all together. Nicely done my friend!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed! 😃😃😃🙏🏻

Thank you for the video! We need more tutorial like this :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏🏻 Thanks! Great to hear!

So much information, Thanks a lot for this video

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

So nice of you. Thanks!

Totally agree on how tough and frustrating macro watch work can be ...but compared to macro videography of a watch movement it's a walk in the park...if you could walk in the park these days...Great work and thanks for sharing...

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, agree. That is crazy hard! Thanks!

Amazing man, amazing job, amazing video, thank you so much!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

This is absolutely incredible knowledge, provided at no cost wow 🤯 thanks!!

@botvidsson

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Martin, That was one of your better tutorials!, Even though Watches are hard to do, What one learns from this Tutorial is how to use lighting and how to Block certain areas of lighting, So much is gained for future use on other product shoots, not just watches. I love how you have added the details of the products or materials you use. Very helpful! I'm sending you a NON-Covid19 cup of coffee! Stay safe my friend. Also, what brand and where can one get those black metal frames that hold the diffusion material? If they are not crazy expensive, I would like to get about three of them.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻😃 Under the video you'll find an Amazon link to my "shop", I have them there, Matthews steel frames. I must add that they are not the best solution for adding diffusion, hard. I just use gaffa.

Not able to find accurate words to praise your knowledge which you deliver through your tutorials videos. I have learnt so much from your tutorials. Thank you so much for being there and teaching us. God bless you. I am definitely gonna try this. Once again, thank you.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

So nice of you. Means a lot to hear that. Thanks a million!

I love how much detail you go into. Great video. I'd love to do more product photography while I'm trapped inside. Now I need to find some products that don't look too well used...

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I always shoot stuff that I just bought before I start using them... guess that's hard now when you're trapped inside...

You're the best, buddy. Thank you so much. Cheers from a coffee supporter. :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

HUGE thanks for the support!

Very interesting! Thank you very much!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Realy nice Video i Love your worke!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

It's so true, watches can be complicated to shoot, but so cool when they're done! I appreciated this tutorial a lot🤗

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻😃

What craftsmanship!!!! Bravo......This is the great paradox of the 21st Century.....companies don't want to pay for art. You have created art. I take photos of watches for fun. And when I look at what I get vs what you get it is night and day. These images you "create" are so worth $1000......companies today leave no money aside for good marketing. GREAT IMAGE......thanks for inspiring me

@botvidsson

10 ай бұрын

Well said! Thanks mate!

Thanks man you are a total help ❤️

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

Amazing work. Magical.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃 Thanks!

Amazing tutorial! I just got hired to produce 2-3 photos of about 70 watches so I found this very helpful!

@botvidsson

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😃

Dude / Sir / Master / Mister... Outstanding! Love your knowledge / quirkiness / tone / vibe. You should have a zillion more subscribers and a gazillion more views! Subscribed.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! Very kind words.

Beautiful !!! good humor

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

Very interesting and informative, thank you! 😀

@TheMrRatzz

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see that too!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for the useful tutorial. Great result

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey martin, just finished watching its only popped up tonight ,that's you tube for you,lot of hard work but super cool image again,admire your skill well done man!!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million 👽

another great tutorial, thank you bro! A big hug from italy. Stay safe!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Hugs from Sweden!

I thought I knew watch photography... until I watched this video haha. Good stuff, man! Do you think you will ever do a car photography video?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Me and a friend are planning to do a Tesla shoot when Covid-19 madness is over.

Thank you for you helpful tip in taking product photography pictures, I am learning how to do product photography and every time I watch one of your tutorials it helps me , the next time I am taking a picture, I follow your rules in set up and see what each light does . thank you

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

I just found out about your channel. I really like the chill and educative vibe to your videos !

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Very nice collection of Ardbeg!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Well spotted!

Never watched a 20 min video before, first time and it's totally worth it :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

That's very good for the channel statistics 🤣 Thanks 🙏🏻😃

Nice work, I'am learning a lot and with this situation I'am doing some studio work, was planning to shot a watch with 3 strobes. Will see what the out come is.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great to hear, please share the result in the Facebook group if you like to get some feedback. facebook.com/groups/botvidsson

I shoot watches for a living. You were on point during the whole process. Good Job.

@botvidsson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks my friend it’s has been long time... keep it up 👍🏻

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻 How do you mean long time? Latest videos I released once per week 😃

@mohdbob7436

4 жыл бұрын

botvidsson 😅 it’s seems that I’m not good follower, i was to happy to see ur video since long time ... i shall hit the 🔔 😘

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, hit that bell! 😃 Thanks!

WAITING!!!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏🏻

Thanks Martin. I was keen to see this one, as I am a watch dealer here in Canada. I carry several brands, which affords me the fun of having the best of props. But as you said, they are very complicated to photograph. I enjoyed the video very much - thank you!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic to hear Pat! Thanks 🙏🏻😃

Excellent

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Amazing! Thank You! That green is nice I think :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

A bit spicy and cool yes? 😃

@Justas49

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson Yes and it's matches overall in blueish theme from many videos. And it looks serious on video about scary watch photography :D

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃 great!

Bella!!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Grazie mille!

@juanofrbucketliz4176

4 жыл бұрын

Senior @@botvidsson as always Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Very well presented and most important Coffee gets you though.

@botvidsson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Now, this will blow our mind i think !

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

It's easier than it looks maybe, only 12 hours shooting 🤣🤣🤣

@Joker1531993

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson usual time 🤷😃

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

@@Joker1531993 Indeed!

hey, I just found your channel recently and love your videos! great video as usually :D how do you make the focus stacking on camera, do you hand focus? or focus using the software on the computer?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

With the Canon I hand focus but that is not a good way, hard. I might get the Helicon Remote so the software will do it by auto.

“Maybe you think I’m crazy. Of course I’m crazy! No one will shoot for twelve hours.” Dina videor är det bästa.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Tack som fan! 🤣🤣🤣

thank you for this video. my question is how did you put the watch like that? what tools did you use?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

I used a regular A-clamp and clamped it at the clasp, I also put some soft material so I did not damage the watch. 😃🙏🏻 Thanks!

Another fantastic video! Thank you for sharing your experiences with cheapskate clients who disappear as soon as they're quoted a reasonable price for their product photography. My experience has been the same. Many clients aren't sophisticated enough to understand how much time, effort and talent it takes to produce beautiful commercial images of products as complex as a watch. I suggest that in the future, before quoting your price for a watch photography gig, you should send the potential client a link to this video, then discuss your price.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe, great idea! There is nothing more uninspiring then inexperienced image buying clients.

Great job 👍 🥇

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻😃

Hi, I'm starting out with watchphotography and bought myself a Canon 5D Mk 1 and a Sigma 105mm lens. I tried taking picture and adjusting the white balance like you explained in the Redbull can video, but I'm not getting the results I'm looking for. If I would invest in lighting, what would you recommend for someone on a budget? Would you use a flash, strobe or continuous lighting? Umbrellas, soft box or diffusion panels? Many thanks! Arno

@botvidsson

Жыл бұрын

I always suggest strobe, try finding 2 used flashes (Godox, Elinchrom or similar) with reflectors and grids+getting some diffusion material. Skip soft boxes and umbrellas.

wow, ihve set reminder on

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Great!

thanx for sharing! do you use constant or impulse light? what is preferable?

@botvidsson

Жыл бұрын

Always strobe light, so much more power.

@user32dvt

Жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson thank you sir!

Great video! Love your work. quick question...do you use Photoshop to focus stack or other software?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

For this shot Photoshoot worked best but I do normally use HeliconFocu

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

I have a speed retouch video on the channel for this watch

Gosh, what a shame i couldnt be here on time. Great video as always, its most anticipated thing by me in these hard times. Watching You is always inspiring!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Huge thanks!

Would it be advisable to reduce the number of focus stack shots with using a tilt lens?

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

I would say in general yes. Maybe not advisable because it WILL be less photos thanks to the tilt function.

how did you go about pushing the nob back in and placing it into the photo? did the watch move? how did that effect your stack?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the watch will move. First I do the main stacking with the crown out, then I do another stacking for the crown shot. Then in Photoshop I will manually place the crown shot in the correct place.

thank you!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you so much for making these videos I just subscribed to you and I'm finding a very informative By the way I'm over here in Brooklyn If you ever open up your studio and I don't know if you are in Brooklyn love to hang out and see if I can pick up some pointers let me know Thanks

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I been to Brooklyn once and I love to come back. Would be great just to hang out and talk photo stuff.

Thank for the warning to stay away from watches... but thanks to you, I loved to take a watch photograph. It's complicated, attentions to details... it's very challenging for me, because I only have 3 speedlights and home made diffuser and reflectors. But I am enjoyed it... Thank you! after a long time (since 2008) I have dive into photography, I've found what I am passion about in this field.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic to hear. Well it is very challenging but a lot of fun to shoot watches. 🙏🏻

is there some sort of plate that you use to support the watch and the silicone strap? It seems to me that the strap itself could not hold the weight of the watch. There should be some sort of support? Which I assume is being clamped down as well? Is there a support product like this that we can buy? Thanks in advance - love your tutorial!

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! If I remember correct the silicon strap was very stiff so I only clamped the buckle with some cloth to protect if from getting scratched.

Again great tutorial Bot! Are you planning a retouching video about this shot @botvidsson ?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes that's the plan. I almost gave up a few times realising it will take forever to clean this used watch, I did my best but it took FOREVER... many many many hours. Never shoot used watches.

Thank you, I am the same as you who shoot watches every day, but there are a few skills I will have to learn from you, especially how to handle light. Wishing your youtube channel and your work grow strongly from Vietnam

@botvidsson

10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Thanks!

@botvidsson

Жыл бұрын

Very welcome!

Amazing shoot and BTS video as usual!!! What kind of polarising filter you put in front of the camera? Also the light should be polarised?🙏 thanks

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Carlo! Under the video you'll find the pol filter in my Amazon shop

Great photoshoot

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻😃

Excellent videos sir! What is that metal frame (above the watch) with the diffusion paper attached to called?

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Its probably the Matthews flag frame and the diffusion is Savage Translum Medium weight. You'll find all in my Amazon shop below

@pnwbjj

3 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson Awesome! Thank you for responding so quickly.

thank you so much

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Belissimo!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Tack Sune!!

This is making me think twice about trying out watches. Focus stacking makes sense. The difficulties of surfaces on watch looks complex. Maybe try out this after doing other products first with a bit more experience. Thanks for showing watches.

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, don't start with watches, it can be a bit difficult. 😁

Great work! Watches are double tough for sure.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Agree! Thanks 🙏🏻😃

@aesthetic_mfr

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson I'm surprised you're not using some sort of focusing rail considering you shoot so many watches. Maybe upstairs?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

​@@aesthetic_mfr Haha, yes upstairs in the big studio. When shooting watches I always use my Hasselblad and tilt/shift adapter + Rhino motorised glide track, sometimes manually focusing. Easier with Hasselblad lenses. On the channel I want to use more accessible tools from time to time so people don't get so pissed off 🤣

@aesthetic_mfr

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson We're just jealous man. I appreciate you holding back on using that sort of gear. Must be difficult for you to have it and then deliberately tie your hands behind your back. Equally as difficult as last weeks catalog white episode. You did a good job teaching the lesson but how boring it must have been for you. You do a lot for us and many of us really appreciate it. Thanks man!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Very kind words, thanks a lot!

Bring it! I'm waiting. LOL

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏🏻

Snyggt! Men man vill ju se redigeringsprocessen med! ☺️

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Kommer!

Martin thank you so much for shooting your Rolex on one of our straps. Great tutorial and we will be putting some commercial work your way very soon. Many thanks

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Lee! The strap looks awesome!

@leescott7357

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson thank you my friend

@leescott7357

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson Your photography makes it look more awesome!!!

Very very nice

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

Will you do a retouching video of this image?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's the plan.

Hi From what i can read online when using a polarizing filter you will need a natural source of light or polariserende film in front of strobes(which seems to be expensive) but you do it with diffusers here and clearly got it to work. Please help my confusion

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

It is often enough with just a Pol filter on the camera, it all depends on where the light comes from, what angle. If your light comes from a "bad" angle you can add the pol filter on the light, this might help you more. At some point I will do a proper pol filter video tutorial, both lens and light pol filters.

@bogdanpopescu8406

2 жыл бұрын

There are TWO steps : first you CREATE the polarising light, with a polarising film on the light itself (flash), then you use this already polarised light with a CPL filter on the camera lens.

Cant wait for this - been wanting to shoot my own watch.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Do it 😃!

very good pal

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

Love your work. Next time, can you please include photoshop edit as well.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I will do a separate video for THE POST

How did you rig the watch to stay in the position?

@botvidsson

7 ай бұрын

I used some foam for protection and holding the watch with an A-clamp attached to a c-stand

Thanks for the video. I'm struggling with shooting video of watches right now. I'd love to see a tutorial of that if you are up to it.

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

I know, it's 1000 times harder to film watches then to photograph, and that is super hard... 😄

cảm ơn ông vì những video trên, thực sự nó rất rất hay để mọi người có thể học hỏi

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

100%

Galet bra! 👌🏼 Det krävs verkligen en hel del arbete bakom en sån här bild! Köper du savage translum från amazon, eller finns det någon säljare i sverige som har dom, eller motsvarande?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Har svarat två gånger nu... varför ser jag inte mitt svar KZread!!?!?!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Jag köper i Nederländerna

@Thompa74

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson Tack så mycket! 👍🏼

Hey, can you give some advices for food photography?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Team up with a pro chef to get stunning looking food. Then use a beautiful surface and a big light source from behind.

Like you say Martin, many people underestimate watch (or any high end product) photography, and hence don't appreciate the price tag we put to the pictures we'r expected to take for them. stay safe.

@ianssight2785

4 жыл бұрын

It's the world we live in. People deal in sound bites and instagram. As you imply some people don't study and consider 'good enough' as a benchmark. When I look at the investment made, I feel the pricing is fair.

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks and stay safe too!

You the man...

@botvidsson

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

Thanks for this video, adding a polarizer filter was a hit! Yes, I think watch photography is one of the hardest things to do.

@botvidsson

3 жыл бұрын

It really is! Thanks!

👏👏👏

@botvidsson

7 ай бұрын

Thanks

Love your videos, is it more challenging shooting watches with an actual background?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Depends, if it's not a macro shot it's easier I think, then you don't go into the details that much.

Coffee Supporter here!! Thank you for all of the videos! On focus stacking - what is the in-camera process you use? Are you focusing through the viewfinder or using the back of the camera touchscreen?

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen and thanks for supporting the channel! I look through the viewfinder. This is not the best way to do it, will not be that precise. I wish I could use CaptureOne software and change the focus there. Have not find a way to make it work with Canon, maybe someone know here if it is possible to make it work with Canon. I think it works with Sony.

@StephenDavisMonsignor

4 жыл бұрын

botvidsson thank you for the reply! I shoot Canon too (but use Lightroom for tether). I have a commercial client (women’s shoe manufacturer) and I have done some focus stacking using both viewfinder and back of screen (I also shoot a 5DMIV) and neither is perfect.. lol... easier for landscape as you don’t need to be a precise. Thanks as always!!!!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Ah, now I remember that I could not stack this watch photo. I tried HeliconFocus and Photoshop.. you will see this in the post video. I have a motorised slider that I should use, then it will be 100% perfect. I used that slider on the Super Macro Shot of a bee on the channel. Very expensive solution though. I use to use Lightroom before a lot, maybe it's possible to control the focus from Lightroom when shooting tethered... probably not.

@wearevideoelements

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson Why don't you use Helicon Remote for stacking? It's automated so you can sit back and drink coffee, or a beer :)

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

@@wearevideoelements What is that? Something I can buy extra for Helicon?

WooHoo!

@botvidsson

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe 😜

@TheMrRatzz

4 жыл бұрын

@@botvidsson That is one beautiful image ... :-)