Nice IVECO drive. It wasn't mentioned because this is a Nikola promotional piece, but Nikola didn't design the truck and doesn't build it - it is an IVECO S-way, designed and built by IVECO and assembled and equipped with a fuel cell system by Nikola.

@sammas2959

6 ай бұрын

Does it works? Netflix video said that the first fraud, Nikolas bought an Italian design. Now, is Nikolas motor legit? California thought it us last November.

@brianb-p6586

6 ай бұрын

By the way, the fuel cell system that Nikola installs is provided by Bosch.

@zefrum3

5 ай бұрын

@@brianb-p6586source?

@zefrum3

5 ай бұрын

Dude…not accurate: “The Italian truckmaker and Nikola had formed the joint venture in 2019 to help Iveco, then part of CNH Industrial (CNHI.MI)…” and “The two companies will continue to share and develop certain common technologies, while Iveco will remain an important partner and key supplier to Nikola, they added.” In other words, the two companies brought their individual tech and manufacturing capabilities together, via a Joint Venture, and made the truck shown here.

@brianb-p6586

5 ай бұрын

The marking blurb is all correct,@@zefrum3 - it just doesn't mention that Nikola has no technical capabilities and their manufacturing capability is just that assembly plant. Nikola Motor buys the fuel cell system from Bosch, and gets the battery from the company which they bought for that purpose, and Iveco supplies everything else... even the electric motors. If you buy a pickup truck from Ford and bolted some big wheels and tires on it in your driveway, you could say that you and Ford "brought their individual tech and manufacturing capabilities together, via a Joint Venture, and made the truck". Yes, you're Nikola in this analogy.

Not a trucker but cool to see the potential future of these haulers!

@theglitch99

9 ай бұрын

It removes the skill needed to drive a large tractor trailer so the roadways will become more dangerous because ppl who are not skilled enough will be able to get down the road! They are known as steering wheel holders! The Automatic transmission in trucks started this process! Not good I promise!

@matthiasgrunwald895

9 ай бұрын

BOSCH POWERTRAIN EXPERTS

@nam766

9 ай бұрын

ignorace thinking. or i can say brainless. @@theglitch99

@jer280

8 ай бұрын

​@@theglitch99what? This is some hillbilly logic. I have no idea how skill has anything to do with this or how this truck does anything except improve working conditions. You're the only one that likes the sound of your Jake brake going off at 75 mph.

@neutrino78x

8 ай бұрын

@@jer280 Seems we have a lot of rednecks/hillbillies on this channel for some reason. 😲I don't drive at all, being from the San Francisco Bay Area, but if I were to drive, it would be battery or hydrogen, definitely. We'll have to see how solid state batteries go. If they give us 500 miles on a truck like this while hauling, maybe we never need h2 for trucks. Still need it for trains, aircraft, ships, heavy construction equipment, etc. 🙂

The tilting steering column is presumably a standard IVECO S-way feature, along with all of the cab interior features mentioned. These features are unrelated to the energy source - they're the same in the diesel version. This is much of why the truck seems "finished" - most of it has been finished for years and has been in mass production since 2019... and that's a good thing.

I'm about to go to work for Nikola this coming Monday. I would really like to see this tech progress in a real world application, And cater t the real truckers.

@F85M

8 ай бұрын

Make some youtube shorts. If NIkola allows you to take and post em. I wanna see some content.

@kennethney4260

5 ай бұрын

Isn't the owner still in prison?

@alexbento3410

4 ай бұрын

Hey. How's it going ? Does the company seem to be progressing?

@ELpolacko

4 ай бұрын

There is some progress and commitment to the customer base. I'm still there four months later, so things are looking good

@Balzdeepinurmama

4 ай бұрын

@@kennethney4260the ex ceo is in prison but he is no longer part of the company

Nikola looks very good, hope more people adopt the hydrogen infrastructure for the long haul

@laloajuria4678

10 ай бұрын

why? we already have an electric grid...

@user-ex6xh8gy8j

10 ай бұрын

@@laloajuria4678 And how much cars/trucks/housholds can that electric gris take, before it collapses. Also have you stopped and think what happens to the batteries after they degrade in 10 years time

@bartwaggoner2000

10 ай бұрын

Why?

@bartwaggoner2000

10 ай бұрын

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j we can improve grid - we are good at fixing obvious long term issues. The battery is a problem environmentally, I agree. Maybe recycling is a viable option, but I wonder, too. But hydrogen infrastructure is non-existent, making hydrogen is costly, the fuel cell is a high pressure bomb, and it is dangerous to fill - big pass. Why not stick with propane or diesel vs hydrogen?

@laloajuria4678

10 ай бұрын

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j the electric grid is infinite. thats how progress works. why dont you turn off fox gqp news for once?

If they can get Coca Cola as a partner, they're going to be huge.

@mikafiltenborg7572

10 ай бұрын

Nikola have - 250% profit on every truck sold. Nikola bankrupt january 2024

@ardoan6437

10 ай бұрын

@@mikafiltenborg7572You know you can be in trouble for lending out false information

@droomagon

10 ай бұрын

Coca Cola wouldn't be stupid enough to buy trucks that burns up itself and cost more damage to the company

@mariofornarelli1067

10 ай бұрын

​@@mikafiltenborg7572Tesla bag holder, competition is good for business

@juanzingarello4005

10 ай бұрын

@@mikafiltenborg7572 You mean 250% loss? Because profit doesn't sound like bankruptcy by January. lol

Really good looking truck that actually looks like a truck … Not a spaceship!! Cool. 👍🏼👍🏼

@brianb-p6586

7 ай бұрын

All hydrogen and battery-electric heavy trucks in production look like normal trucks, except the Tesla Semi.

@akira28shima32

6 ай бұрын

@@brianb-p6586Drag coefficient matters in EV.

@brianb-p6586

6 ай бұрын

Drag coefficient matters in all road vehicles,@@akira28shima32, especially those driven at highway speed... regardless of the energy source. Some battery-electric trucks have better front-end aerodynamics than their diesel equivalents because they don't need as much radiator area, but the fuel cell truck needs _more_ radiator than a diesel. While there may be an aerodynamic performance difference between a cabover and long-nose truck, other factors are typically more important in the choice between the two styles.

@brianb-p6586

6 ай бұрын

@akira28shima32 drag coefficient matters in any highway-speed vehicle, regardless of the energy source. Among the EVs based on conventional trucks, they generally have the same cab as the diesel, but of course they are typically the models with better aero (not the square-hood traditional models, and not the tall-radiator "vocational" variants). A battery-electric truck can have a smaller radiator grill thsb a diesel because less cooling is needed, but that doesn't apply to a fuel cell truck.

I only see this working for short runs for now, but if it's viable enough, it could help reduce fuel demand for the long haulers.

@blitz1199

10 ай бұрын

Local container and mail loads

@Stuka87

10 ай бұрын

The majority of trucks in the US are short haul. Which I think is where electric and/or hydrogen trucks come in.

@mariofornarelli1067

10 ай бұрын

They have mobile fueling stations too

@hankmoody7521

9 ай бұрын

Last month Mercedes did a 1,000km+ or 620mi+ run with their upcoming hydrogen GenH2 long-haul truck.

@twothbeave

9 ай бұрын

@@hankmoody7521it took 190Kg of H2. That would take 2 hours to fill with the current Hydrogen pumping. Ridiculous. And expensive. At the cost of hydrogen in CA for cars it would be 6700 bucks to fill!

This is the best video and review I have seen so far. A 6x2 will always handle better than a 6x4. I believe it is a sleeper cab, a single bunk European size. The illustrations are good and also the demo driver who is informative. I have been requesting for the longest time on NIKOLAS own site for side by side fully laden road tests on real life conditions and routes. I am becoming more impressed as time goes on, the cab and chassis is tried and tested its just NIKOLAS systems, Hydrogen-Electric and BEV to be authenticated and proven superior to its competition. TESLA, and VOLVO would be the bench mark BEV to start with. Looking forward to seeing a full review, and would like to be part of one. Congratulations to all involved here. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇸

@kennethney4260

5 ай бұрын

With all the hydrogen tanks full it will be equal to 72 gallons of diesel. The cost to equal 1 gallon of diesel is $15 for hydrogen Storage and cost are the limiting factors of hydrogen and no one has made any breakthrough that will change that fact

These trucks are the future the RANGE is what limits actual truck driving because of the weight. Now if the FMCSA cargo weights decreased then I believe this electrified future would work. however 80,000 pounds of combined weight will decrease electric range drastically. I get 8mpg on my diesel semi truck empty and 4.5-5.5 mpg loaded. I honestly think the industry should have went hybrid before forcing zero emissions.

@Tron-Jockey

10 ай бұрын

Not really. You're failing to account for the fact that battery energy density (both gravimetric and volumetric) is rapidly improving. You will see 750 miles of range for BEV Semis well before 2030 and 1000 by 2035. And this will come with little to no increase in weight. Already next generation batteries with 30% increase in energy density are slated to begin production before the end of 2024. Toyota's new solid-state battery, which offer nearly 50% more range than today's best Li-ion ternary batteries, will be in production by then as well. It's even foolish to think it will stop there. Better batteries will help fuel cell vehicles as well.

@user-vv3jy6hb9c

10 ай бұрын

@@Tron-Jockey that's what i mean!!

@rogerstarkey5390

10 ай бұрын

A question. What limits the daily range of your diesel truck? I'll take a guess. You? You can drive for a certain time before a break, then a certain time after that break? . So, if a truck can Outrange YOU up to that break, add range DURING that break, with zero time added to the stop, then complete your maximum drive time with range to spare, then you would say that's sufficient for your needs? . If the vehicle can do that fully loaded, even better? . The Tesla is specifically designed do that (82,000lb GVW) . It can also gain time on gradients compared to your diesel. Let's say you had a total of 10 miles uphill on your first trip. If your diesel was limited to 40 mph due to the gradient, that's a 15 minute climb. If a Tesla can climb that same distance at 60 (with a full load) that's an immediate 5 minute, 5 mile advantage. Even reaching the cruising speed.... Let's say 60 again... 2 minutes? Vs 20 seconds? That's another 1.5 miles at full speed. . Time is money? Back to distance... The Tesla can *average* 60. It has 500 mile range *fully* loaded. If you ran 7 hours at 60, (420 miles) you still have range to spare. You'd need another 4(?) hours range, (240 miles) to complete *your* mileage limit. You still have 80 miles range "in the tank". You need a 160 mile top-up during *your* break. The Tesla can add that range plus more in 30 minutes (300+ miles?) . Next Let's say your going OTR over multiple days. . Where do you charge overnight? I'm waiting for Tesla to produce an adapter, NACS to Megacharge. Then, "build" a drive through lane (just paint!) at certain V3 charge locations. . You pull up at a .... 60+(?) Tesla car charge location. There's nobody there. You're in the "Semi lane". It lines you up with a V3 at the end of a row. You plug your adapter into the truck. You plug the charger into the adapter. Your truck has a facility to limit charge. You set the departure (charge end) time (6am?) 10 hours at 100 kW? It's a nice "trickle charge" for your overnight stop, also providing hookup for your needs. . The network is already there waiting to be expanded as the numbers increase. (Countries like Norway already have this.... They're closing the few Hydrogen stations they had) . The other advantages of straight Battery? (A "Hydrogen" truck IS a "BEV", Just very inefficient) . 1) Simplicity. One system, not 2 like the Hydrogen truck. . 2) Redundancy. The Tesla can outperform a diesel using 1 motor(!) It has 3. It's likely the first you know of a fault is either the truck on the Semi support team telling you. Imagine a call advising that motor 3 had a possible fault, logged automatically by the truck? Having the call centre confirm your route and GVW, then asking if they can meet at your next overnight stop to swap the motor (should take 3 hours).... The support truck arrives and swaps the motor while you eat your evening meal. Meanwhile the truck shows no stress, maybe slightly reduced acceleration, but the faulty motor was completely disengaged, no problem.

Kinda funny how many people are so pro Nikola despite the myriad of problems they face & the high chance of not making it. I wish them luck 'n all, but steering well clear of them.

@patgee81

9 ай бұрын

funny as i personally see the opposite .. the majority of people is hating nikola .. despite the myriad of goals they already acheived .. and despite all the problems ..

@raymondluna3187

9 ай бұрын

This guy... you own a tesla huh

@stevenboaz2952

9 ай бұрын

Don't forget about the lies of their past with the con artist Trevor Milton to steal from Nikola's investors....I don't forget. I only hope to one day break back even, but not holding my breath! Just holding Nikola stocks....

@twothbeave

8 ай бұрын

@@patgee81they haven’t achieved 💩! What are you even talking about. Show me this thing carrying a 40 ton load 1100 miles in 24 miles.

@zefrum3

5 ай бұрын

@@twothbeaveyou clearly do not know poo on startups

Happy to see Nikola here, I accepted fate of my NKLA but nice to see the company grow

@highstreetadvertising4571

2 ай бұрын

I just invested and it seems pretty radd.

26,000lbs is extremely heavy. That’s a lot of money left on the table. That only allows you to haul 42,000lbs net weight assuming your trailer weighs 12,000lbs. That’s not good. This would only work with really light freight that doesn’t pay by the ton or how much weight you haul.

This tech is excellent, and since it’s capable of OTR, installing hydrogen fill stations at truck stops would be much easier than trying to populate every gas station with hydrogen for cars. The batteries are smaller than full EV, so lighter truck does not take away from load capacity plus less mining to build them. This should be the future of trucking.

@Viggebob

10 ай бұрын

also H2 combustion engine will come - since it is a good bridging technology and wouldnt ruin millions of jobs/lifes/savings/mortgages

@gregkelly2145

10 ай бұрын

I'm afraid there will be nothing easy about building out hydrogen fueling stations. Hydrogen storage is very expensive as it is kept under extreme pressure (5,000 to 10,000 psi) and is the smallest molecule, so leakage is inevitable, no matter how good your seals are. Production of Hydrogen is another problem as most of what we have now is extracted from natural gas and is a fairly energy intensive process. Beyond that, electrolysis of water uses even more power. By the time you add up all of the difficulties in production, storage and transport, it is marginally cheaper than diesel, but not anywhere close to the cost and efficiency of battery electric. Electricity is ubiquitous, so it is far easier to build charging stations. All that said, I wouldn't trust Nikola as far as I could throw that truck... The company was founded by a fraud and felon currently serving 20 years in prison...

@guyforlogos

10 ай бұрын

@@gregkelly2145 good to know, that does sway my opinion of it.

@TaigaTurf

10 ай бұрын

Can't get passed the thought of the Hindenburg whenever I hear about Hydrogen vehicles...

@guyforlogos

10 ай бұрын

@@TaigaTurf 😅 well, at least their not filling the cab with the stuff!

Looks awesome. Anheuser-Busch is said to be among the first big customers. What about Walmart?

This is so cool! I can't wait to see more of Hydrogen tech in big rigs. It will really put the tech to the test.

Great Video . Can’t wait for full testing

Well no one mentions that truck is a Italian made iveco and no one in the usa has ever driven a European cabover before but this time its electric or hydrogen so yes it's a nice thing to drive.

This is the tech I've been waiting for. Of all the items I've seen around the fuel cell seems the most practical so long as proper planning is done (i.e. Tesla style infrastructure investments). This is the one I hope catches one, even for cars.

@bartwaggoner2000

10 ай бұрын

Why?

@maedre45

10 ай бұрын

@@bartwaggoner2000 The main reason for me is that it has the best of both worlds in my eyes. We have the speed of refueling, which straight electric can't beat yet. There is also the fact that hydrogen is abundant where lithium and the rest aren't as. This reduces the battery requirement and transitions it to something better, in my opinion. If people are trying to move away from diesel and gas then this is a better transition item than all battery electric. Again, this is just my opinion. It's all dependent on the infrastructure to work for any change in the tech.

@nickv8816

10 ай бұрын

@@maedre45you are obviously completely clueless on how hydrogen is currently made, how much it cost to make and for it to actually be green it will cost even more. Its a complete waste of energy and is physically impossible to ever be cheaper than BEV. Trucking companies only care about the bottom line, making hydrogen DOA. Btw, lithium is way more abundant then you realize and it can be recycled at the end of the batteries life. Its a no brainer for anyone the cares about total cost of ownership.

@larryspiller15

10 ай бұрын

It is moronic. Hydrogen takes 5x the energy so the fuel alone is 5x the cost EXCLUDING the added cost of building I hydrogen station which is 10x the cost of a fast charging station. The truck and the station will also require several times the maintenance. It's a garbage idea that exist to milk subsidies.

@allentoyokawa9068

10 ай бұрын

Been doing this for years in Japan

For people who do'n't know, the cab is a european one from Iveco. Its the S-way cab, its a full size european sleeper cab not as theybsaid a daycab, i has a bed behind the seats, and notnsure if this one has it, but under the bed is a full size fridge, over here theh are well equipt trucks for long haul

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

It does appear to be a high-roof AS Sleeper cab, even though IVECO offers the S-Way with an AD Short cab. It also appears to be bare, with no mattress so perhaps no refrigerator. Sandy Munro did a test drive and had more comments in his video about what is in the cab behind the seats.

@aukeboy1

9 ай бұрын

​@@brianb-p6586it has a matrass, its the same collor as the rest

Impressive! Thank you for the review!

I would prefer the hvac, axle lock, etc to be physical buttons. That would be a safe hazard to have to go through pages on a screen and take your eyes off the road.

Very cool technology. I would love to try that under load to see how it pulls. This looks workable for regional work where the truck returns ta defined place(s) each day. No, we don't have a network of hydrogen stations, but we also don't have a network of gigawatt chargers either. It all has to be built either way. The reality is we probably need both.

@HrLBolle

8 ай бұрын

yeah, with more of the innovators coming to the working stages now we are faced with the dilemma of how to supply for the needs

Good luck!

The image of the truck stripped of some covers @5:37 illustrates one of the problems of hydrogen: there are three tanks behind the cab above the frame, plus outside of the frame rail (presumably on both sides), and that still only adds up to 70 kilograms of hydrogen. That's 9,900 MJ or 2800 kWh of energy, which is equivalent to 218 kg or 273 L (72 US gallons) of diesel fuel... one small tank. Yes, 72 US gallons of diesel will drive a typical truck (with trailer, loaded to 80,000 pounds gross) about 500 miles.

Nikola Tesla. It is so appropriate to name two of the companies of the future after the greatest inventor of all times. If you don’t know who Nikola Tesla is, without him and his work you won’t have electric power at home, no cell phone and many, many other things we use every single minute and take for granted.

@jonsnow6631

10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily.

@jameswatadza8962

10 ай бұрын

They also named it after a convicted con artist. "Tre".

@drnick40

10 ай бұрын

These two don’t get it obviously.

@panamaJ

9 ай бұрын

Calling the company Nikola is corny.. jumping on the Tesla name is cheesy AF

@moneyman24258

3 ай бұрын

@@panamaJI like it

The unfortunate thing as an OTR driver myself, is the fact that it only goes 500 mi per fill, the sleeper is not driver centered, so no OTR driver would want to be in one for days on end. The diesel truck I drive now goes around 1100 miles per fill up, and the sleeper is set up so that when I'm on my breaks, I'm actually comfortable, and I'm able to have food and entertainment while I'm on the road. There is a long way for this to be an actual tech that will be viable for OTR applications.

@russella90

10 ай бұрын

yeah, i mean, v1 of any new tech is never going to have everything. Are there things about this truck that excite you?

@JJDrones

10 ай бұрын

@@russella90 I'm a huge supporter of hydrogen technology and I'd like to have Nikola reach out to the rank and file OTR driver and let us tell them what we need. The only channels I've seen cover this have nothing to do with the transportation industry so I don't know what kind of information they're getting from people like me with 21 years of over the road experience. But I'd like to see the range over 1000 miles, I'd like to see a driver centered sleeper, I'd like to see how hydrogen technology works in colder climates unlike battery technology that would completely fail, and to have one drive axle with a tag axle on the rear, Eaton Fuller stopped making trucks with that kind of transmission because it's unsafe for drivers. There's a lot of great stuff that's available with hydrogen fuel cells, I am happy to get on board once the technology meets the needs of drivers like me that drive 10,000 miles or more a month.

@Dills1995

10 ай бұрын

How many hundreds of gallons of fuel do you burn to drive 1100 miles? The current system is unsustainable. The future of OTR is what you see here.

@russella90

10 ай бұрын

totally. they should be designing their experience around the people who use it the most. @@JJDrones

@JJDrones

10 ай бұрын

@@Dills1995 160 gallons will give you 1100 miles in a 2016 tractor and the newer trucks are even more fuel efficient. The future will be what the drivers will drive. That's just fact. As the trucks stand now there's not a driver that would drive that long term over the road. We live in our trucks for weeks at a time and it's a home on wheels, if you'd deal with that God bless you, but no one I know would 😂

This company is pretty cool actually, hopefully they become profitable soon

Cab over design makes it a global truck, not american style. Volvo has this format as well in Europe. Edit: By this format, I mean hydrogen. Volvo is producing hydrogen fueled trucks for european market.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Everyone in Europe has this style. This truck is an IVECO S-Way, a regular production model in Europe (but of course it normally comes with a diesel engine).

@ericreid8111

9 ай бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 i mean Volvo has the hydrogen style

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

okay, @@ericreid8111, "format" would normally mean physical form, and you were talking about cabovers. Yes, most major manufacturers have at least played with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. None, including Volvo, has successfully gone into production with hydrogen fuel cell heavy trucks, as far as I have seen (I checked the Volvo Trucks website), although there are fuel cell buses.

@ericreid8111

9 ай бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 ok

I saw one on the road hauling freight on the 405 fwy in California. I did a double take because you dont see cabover semi trucks in use anymore and it was hydrogen powered.

Thanks for this interesting clip. I think the fuel cell tech look very promising

Wow! Pretty awesome! Great video....

@TFLtruck

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Andre! I had no idea you were so close, I would’ve taken you out for pizza! 😂

The guy with you was great.

Good information. Thanks!

Failed to mention the $750,000.00 price tag...😂

@roymoxley2587

10 ай бұрын

We won’t talk about that cause it’s only 750,000 f that bs

@sammas2959

6 ай бұрын

Why so much? Body of semi already was made by another company, right? Is Nikola motor legit? That's the question 🤔. If it is and it works, make more a lot more....now the price should be stabled.

I drove by one of these trucks today in Tucson... it was in traffic and was not moving as i passed it and it sounded almost as loud as a regular semi pulling a light load. It was going " WOOOOO" just sitting there doing nothing. it had a full sized trailer behind it

17:42 I like the separate town & country horns. I think all vehicles should have have them. I'm not even sure new Rolls Royce's have town & country horns anymore.

@1guyin10

10 ай бұрын

That's actually a requirement for heavy trucks. All of them have it.

@kennethney4260

5 ай бұрын

I see they're still using all the little electronic features to distract from the fact that they haven't actually made a single technological breakthrough...

The tour of the truck starting @3:44 is good, but the graphic (inserted later @3:57) shows that while Andre points up to the fuel tanks when he is talking about the fuel cell, the fuel cell stack is actually in the original engine location, under the cab between the front wheels. Fuel cell vehicles are complex, with a lot of components to accommodate, and fuel tanks which are both bulky and awkwardly shape (they must be cylinders with hemispherical ends, because they are pressure vessels). The hydrogen pressure is extreme, at typically 70 MPa in vehicles (that's 700 times atmospheric pressure, or about 10,000 PSI).

Hydrogen seems to me would benefit the heavy transport such as ships, planes and these trucks.

@natehill8069

10 ай бұрын

There is currently no way to GET hydrogen that doesnt involve using a lot more energy. Unless you convert hydrocarbons like natural gas, which still does the pollution. If it isnt cheaper, and it isnt better for the environment, then whats the point?

@shiftymcgee9359

10 ай бұрын

@@natehill8069emissions and air quality. There’s always going to be a naysayer. Many more see the benefits of hydrogen, even from natural gas, over diesel or an excessively large lithium battery pack.

@herbwheeler4470

10 ай бұрын

​@@natehill8069the big difference is hydrogen doesn't require rare minerals mining. A hydrogen fuel station can be ininstalled in a regular gas station. In just a few years there are going to be millions of batteries in need of replacement. Where are they going to go? There are only 1-2 lithium recycling plants in the U.S and lithium/cobalt is 100% recyclable yet.

@Stuka87

10 ай бұрын

@@herbwheeler4470 Lithium batteries don’t have rare earth minerals. The motors however typically have neodymium, which is a rare earth mineral. And is used for both electric and hydrogen vehicles.

@nyannyan123456

10 ай бұрын

@@natehill8069 Yes, there no way around this problem. Now if we ever get fusion energy working. Then Electric could become so cheap that electrolysis of water might make sense.

Tesla and Nikola or any others are great… no need to compete. It is the challenge of changing the industry that is strangling hold by current industry suppliers . Wish them all the best

I want Andre to go and see the Edison motors truck in canada

I love it.

Edison motors in Canada built a hybrid diesel and electric. They already did a short tow at 107k . And im 15 min from that plant in Coolidge and never seen one yet, and lucid motors is in the next town over , casa grande az. Wich just started calling employees back after the lay off.

Super cool!!!

amazing 😍😍😍

Awesome 🤩

IVECO sure makes an interesting looking COE. I'm sure that it's well received in New Zealand, Australia, and RSA. Good luck to Nikola, especially after having framed Trevor Milton for fraud. Please get in contact with Edison Motors and discuss their retrofit and production prototypes.

@theotherbrad5650

10 ай бұрын

Framed Trevor Milton? Trevor Milton framed Trevor Milton. Maybe the company will succeed now that he's gone.

@GROGU123

10 ай бұрын

How did they frame him? He was the biggest "fake it till you make it" story I've ever seen. Dude went from pouring concrete all day with no college degree, to a Billion dollar CEO.

@JT_771

10 ай бұрын

Framed? Ummm ... nope, he earned that title so we shouldn't take it away from him.

Nikola doesn't have a partner just for the motor - the electric motor equipped axle comes from IVECO, along with the complete chassis (frame, suspension, axles, steering, brakes) and complete cab.

This size of cab is used as a sleeper cab all over Europe, just add a bed behind the seats, bonneted trucks like those used in the USA do not fit in a lot of places in Europe

Very cool video

Wonder if the computers can figure out, when the truck is about to go down long grades, too keep the battery’s at a lower level for max regen to help the brakes 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Great looking truck 👍🤗

@budalanemac3115

10 ай бұрын

They have it in allmost all newer trucks. Automatic drive shaft disconect to lower RPM of the engine to idle range while going down hill. When you press your brake and need to stop, it will reconnect and use engine to slow down allong with your breaks... or if you use your engine brake... etc

@rogerstarkey5390

10 ай бұрын

You said the "B" word. That's the issue. It's a BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLE. Just a very inefficient one.

These are short haul and max regional trucks. OTR units won’t be replaced for a long while.

need more video about NIKOLA.

FCEV hydrogen trucks will be the making of this company. We all know the troubled past but I honestly don’t think people have realised what a revolution this truck is. This is the truck of the future.

I wonder if there will be a problem with a tag axle. If the truck is on an uneven surface, if the back axle was on a higher surface than the front drive axle, you could lose traction. I am thinking this might happen during snow or on unpaved surfaces.

@JJDrones

10 ай бұрын

I've been driving a truck now with the rear tag axle on it, and in the winter time the truck is horrible in slippery conditions. Eaton Fuller quit making the transmissions with the tag axle for trucks because of the lack of safety.

@kelvinhill9874

10 ай бұрын

I drive a large truck with tag axle. We call it a lazy axle here in Australia. There is a button on the dash which allows me to dump the air from the air bags on the lazy axle if I need to. I use it when going over an uneven surface where drive axle traction becomes a problem.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Manual control of a lift axle on a truck is not legal in some areas, @@kelvinhill9874 , because driver's can't be trusted to use it properly.

600 hp? That's cute... Tesla semi is 1500 and have nothing to worry about from Nikolas annual 2400 unit run rate once fully ramped lol.

It would be interesting to see if this could be coupled with a trailer that has electric motors to further increase the range and power if needed

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

That would only increase the range if the trailer also carried more fuel, which would not work (due to the problems of making a fuel hose connection) unless the trailer also had it's own fuel cell stack. By that point, you have duplicated every expensive part of the truck.

@randgrithr7387

9 ай бұрын

How would more motors increase range?

I have worked on class 8 trucks for about 20 years. 500 miles is very low to get the job done.

@glitter_fart

10 ай бұрын

more than enough for 15 minute cities where everyone is retinal scanned for id's when crossing into another district

@heavydieselengine8989

10 ай бұрын

@@glitter_fart 👍🏻 complete control

@luizbruno2010

10 ай бұрын

@@glitter_fartwhere that happens?

@ALMX5DP

10 ай бұрын

I’m not familiar with semi classes, is this not suitable for more local or regional routes?

@heavydieselengine8989

10 ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP class 9 is typically long haul trucks. Which on average about 700 miles per day. This truck could run local depending on the size of the trailer and location.

I want to see a range test with a full load. What’s the fuel cost per mile?

@TFLtruck

10 ай бұрын

We plan to do this soon.

@tomm5936

10 ай бұрын

@@TFLtruck yes I heard that at the end after typing this. I will look forward to that. I would love to hear what they think about refueling, are they involved or is that up to the customers. Also the 500 mile range sounded like it was under ideal conditions. Would they consider adding range, to me it should be a simple question of adding a bigger fuel tank, all the people against non-diesel trucks use range as an argument. It could be laid to rest if they could offer longer range, even if nobody needs or wants it in real life.

@cruiser97eric1

10 ай бұрын

@@TFLtruck Who will be providing the hydrogen for your tests?

@JH-je2yn

10 ай бұрын

He changed the subject pretty fast when asked about the range..."up to 500 miles"....look how easy it is to steer....

@cruiser97eric1

10 ай бұрын

@@JH-je2yn I don't think there is a standard way of measuring range for a class 8 truck like there is for passenger cars. So it is reasonable to say up to 500 miles with a full load. Range depends on load weight, driving speed, elevation gain, weather conditions, etc.

Ballard did this year's ago .. and none are still on road..same as the Ballard based busses.. great tech.. but

Love the drive selections buttons! D N R 😂 simple is always better.

@motofunk1

10 ай бұрын

The companies "DNR" has already been signed.

@RMmotorsports1000

10 ай бұрын

Yeah awesome for more steering wheel holders to watch only fans while driving, honestly very common. We mop wrecks up for this all the time.

So exciting

Looks good too, hope it works

That is heavy, here in Europe a tractor only weights around 8 tons with lightweight units around 6.5 tons and considering a 40 ton weight limit on the road that could be a disadvantage

@user-ex6xh8gy8j

10 ай бұрын

it's 11 tons, not that heavy, considering the technology

@B-rad303

10 ай бұрын

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j you know nothing about CDL rules, there's an 80k weight limit on USA roads the more the tractor weighs, the less cargo you can haul, and there's also front axle, drive axle, & and rear tandem axle limits going through ports of entry in each state, but you probably already knew that since your a seasoned CDL over the rod driver..

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Yes, it is heavy compared to a diesel version of the same truck (which is the IVECO S-Way). There is a lot of hardware, including a substantial battery.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j 11.8 tonnes or 13 tons

The guy in the passenger side, his cell hard workers in the gym he looked in the gym only😂😂😂😂

How do these work for long haul? 80,000 gross weight towing. Charging. Their recharging?

Go nikola 👏

How much to fill and where to find? Looks nice, but will fail terribly base on operating costs. P-Chi

It's not a "full fuel cell" @22:41. That's full fuel *tanks* . The fuel cell is not a storage tank - it is the device which takes hydrogen and air to produce electricity. A fuel cell stack (one cell only produces about one volt, so many cells are stacked to produce useful voltage) is a specialized type of electrochemical battery that only does that conversion; it doesn't store any energy, or any material.

Looks fab..it’s looks like a iveco cab..bet it will sell well in Europe..only problem in uk is electric charging stations .. dnt think hydrogen stations will come up here in about 10-20 years lol ..Txs andrè for another video..I didn’t hear how much max load!!xx

@rogerstarkey5390

10 ай бұрын

Hydrogen makes even LESS sense in Europe due to the speed and drive time restrictions. A Tesla could Outrange a driver easily.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Yes, it's an IVECO S-Way... and that's the whole cab and chassis (without engine), not just the cab.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

The truck will presumably be rated for the usual axle capacities to max out the US federal highway weight allowances, which are 12,000 pounds front axle, 34,000 pounds for the tandem rear set, and 80,000 pounds gross combination weight... plus a 2,000 pound extra allowance because it is an alternative fuel vehicle.

@Xv1p3rCr0

9 ай бұрын

It wont sell in europe ...i think they even closed their joint factory with iveco in germany...that partnership is over

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

@@Xv1p3rCr0 the IVECO - Nikola joint venture at Ulm Germany was terminated... and IVECO will be building this truck in Germany and selling it in Europe themselves. IVECO is still a "partner" of Nikola, meaning a supplier... of the entire glider (can and chassis without power source).

Way too many screens. There should be no reason that all buttons need to be eliminated from the dash.

This is really cool! I really hope hydrogen infrastructure develops to where it's a viable alternative to gas or EVs. The technology is quite fascinating, and I'd love to see it work widespread.

@Tron-Jockey

10 ай бұрын

Be careful when you suggest this as a viable alternative to EVs. This is a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle (HVCV) which has the same drivetrain as an electric vehicle. HFCV's even require a fairly large Li-ion battery that acts as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell.

@MultiPurposeReviewer

10 ай бұрын

@@Tron-Jockey You are correct. In comparison to EVs, I meant mainly in terms of refueling. An EV takes hours to recharge, whereas a hydrogen vehicle can fill up in a matter of minutes, much like a regular car. I seem to recall that a hydrogen vehicle would also have more range, and more reliable range (that is to say, the range degradation while under load would be less pronounced than in an EV).

@rogerstarkey5390

10 ай бұрын

@@MultiPurposeReviewer "an EV takes hours to Charge" Errr... No

@MultiPurposeReviewer

10 ай бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 Uhh, yes. If you need to fill up any significant amount, it's gonna take at least an hour at a fast charger, far more at home. Hydrogen can fuel from empty to full in a couple minutes.

@SimonEllwood

7 ай бұрын

​@@MultiPurposeReviewerI have never taken anywhere near one hour to charge at a Tesla Supercharger. Where are you getting your information from?

Nikola needs to work with Edison Motors from British Columbia Canada who have made the World's 1st Diesel/electric hybrid Logging truck which works with Fuel cells.... Happy 2023 and glad to see a Great Company live past it's previous leadership 😊

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Edison Motors has not implemented fuel cells, and knows nothing about them. And Edison, which has only built one prototype, is not the first to build a hybrid logging truck; I don't know how many companies have, but Sisu builds them in Finland.

Does this one roll up hill as well

For Europe, that truck size is slipper size)) but not for USA

Can't wait to see this on the Ike.

Awesome 👏 absolutely awesome 👏 well done Nikola 👍👍 Question 🙋‍♂️ When am I going to see my Nikola stocks going up 🤔 I have been waiting for long time to see my Nikola stocks moving forward like this truck, not backwards like the way is happening

@user-lo3sr2pp5d

10 ай бұрын

Never, sell stocks ASAP.. this hydrogen tech will never ever be successful

@stupendouslife8128

10 ай бұрын

@@user-lo3sr2pp5d 😱😱☺️☺️😭😭

Is this an upgraded version that doesn't catch on fire like all the other ones? 😂

It seems that 500 miles range is a problem along with hydrogen refueling infrastructure. I imagine that would improve over time though. Is the current plan for this truck to be local delivery only? What is the company's plan for a more long range OTR truck along with sleepers?

@1guyin10

10 ай бұрын

For a daycab 500 miles would be fine. They usually are dedicated to short runs like local and regional runs. They typically are either returning to their home terminal or running terminal to terminal so if the fueling is established at the terminals it will work. It's probably worth noting that there is also no network of gigawatt chargers, which would be required for EV trucks. Either way a network has to be built.

@SimonEllwood

7 ай бұрын

​@@1guyin10Gigawatt chargers will be considerably cheaper than a hydrogen filling station and the running cost for a BEV will be much lower.

Low range for a big hauler. It’s suitable for town routes, or short hauls I guess.

I want to know how it brakes going down a steep long hill (like in Colorado, Tennessee) , does the electric motor provide resistance in conjunction with the air brake system

@deluexemusic9172

10 ай бұрын

They do. You think they Are Amateurs and dont do their homework Right?

@20smgreen

10 ай бұрын

@deluexemusic9172 one would think that, but I worked with engineers that spent $40k+ on "rare earth magnets" to magnetize to an aluminum floor................. I have a mechanical design engineering degree, and even I won't think of everything.

@deluexemusic9172

10 ай бұрын

@@20smgreen thats why there is not working only one person. Its a big crew.

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Yes, all electric and hybrid vehicles use regenerative braking.

You can see the Iveco Fiat FCA Stellantis in the steering wheel controls

So Nikola wasn't a total scam after all

Very cool; the *right* application of battery tech

The hydrogen electric may actually work for hub to hub or even city delivery. The full electric is something I am leery of. They key,would be in how fast you can refill the hydrogen tanks/fuel cell.

@HrLBolle

8 ай бұрын

what will be very interesting is when we reach the point of having such a surplus of electrical energy as to create a nearly or fully closed loop system in which the two source gases do not diminish in quantity as much as they would in this system, because the water that comes from the fuel-cell would be split back up in the wo base gases

@ramonmacias9013

8 ай бұрын

@HrLBolle not all the gasses get turned into water there is significant loss to heat generation from both the separation process and the recombination, and of course the electicity being generated gets used. So in a completely closed loop you will run dry

@HrLBolle

8 ай бұрын

@@ramonmacias9013 thanks for educating me on a subject I know very little about. what liftle knowledge I have on how fuel-cells work comes from documentaries pertaining to the application and installation of the same in space crafts

Some kind of fluid leaking out from the truck bottom?

The powertrain is a hydrogen-electric hybrid, for which the battery capacity does make sense.

I’ve seen these trucks driving on I-25 and around Colorado Springs.

It's a little strange that Andre asks about battery capacity @12:03 and expects over 700 kWh, since the battery capacity has been stated @5:04 and is much smaller (164 kWh), but apparently the video editing changes the order from reality.

@panamaJ

9 ай бұрын

Yep, that guy was talking bollocks. To a point I question this entire video..

No compounding the brakes I guess. Is the regen as powerful as a Jake brake?

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

Compounding? Yes, regen is as powerful as a compression-release ("jake") brake, but because this has only one drive axle all of that braking is on that one axle.

Did you make any calculation how much a diesel truck driver would have saved in regards with fuel cost if they would switch to these type of trucks?

@graves5526

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, drivers will lose money moving to the fcev right now. Hydrogen production and distribution is substantially more expensive than diesel. If that roadblock can be fixed the pendulum may swing the other way. Right now though, the price difference is massive.

How long is it to fully charge the batteries when completely dead?

@snowman2834

10 ай бұрын

It's hydrogen . You don't use the battery unless you're out of hydrogen

@shiftymcgee9359

10 ай бұрын

Look up hydrogen fuel cell to answer your own question.

@FL.AirBoater

10 ай бұрын

@@shiftymcgee9359 who the hell asked for your opinion!!!

Hydrogen looks like a great solution but the big physics and cost questions haven’t been answered. Generating, compressing, pumping, storing, transporting and the comparison in cost to other fuels is way higher. Very few stations have been built and the unsubsidized cost is not there. We just don’t have the hardware and footprint to feed enough trucks to even start to make a dent in replacing diesel. If you buy a truck today you would have to buy it with the fuel station to make it run. What happens when the station goes down?

Having vipers in the menu is crazy but Ike will be interesting. I'm guessing 9 minutes on the Ike.😊

@TFLtruck

10 ай бұрын

Let’s go!

This is cool but you guys really need to do a review of @EdisonMotors. Those trucks have incredible real world applications with none of the range limitations of all electric or hydrogen

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@TFLtruck

10 ай бұрын

We will haul something soon.

@h2now

10 ай бұрын

Because another broke down?

Go Nikola!

the main problem is the weight of the actual truck it can't pull a 40k pound trailer because it will be over gross in most states

So if you are needing to refill the hydrogen because your down to say 80 miles left to empty so you pull into a Loves truck stop to refill your hydrogen can you keep going another 500 miles or do you need to recharge the battery also?

@Zorkmid123

10 ай бұрын

You would only need to refuel the hydrogen, not the battery. The battery is charged with regen breaking and I think energy from the fuel cell as well.