Watch MEL SHUT DOWN MUHAMMAD HISTORICALLY in 12 minutes @ Sp. Corner!
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Mel from Ireland (his KZread channel: / @islamicorigins ) takes us through a sequence of historically documented MHMDs which led up to the Abbasid MHMD (notice, not the Islamic "Muhammad", because that MHMD didn't exist that early). When we look at what history tells us, according to Mel we find out that:
1) Today, the name "Muhammad" includes 4 consonants (mim, ha, mim, dal = m,h,m,d), and 3 vowels (Dhamma = 'u', and 2 Fatahs = 'a'). But vowels didn't exist in the 7th century Arabic alphabet. They weren't introduced for another 100 - 200 years later. So, there was no name Muhammad in the 7th century. There was only MHMD, the 4 consonants, in any written text. Consequently, we have been looking for the wrong word all this time. We should be looking for the MHMD instead.
2) The word MHMD was first introduced in Ugaritic (in Syria) in 1400 BC. At that time it meant "The Desired One". It then took on differing meanings, including "The Blessed One", or "The Praised One", or "The Altogether Lovely", and even "The anointed One". So, it was always a title, and never a name.
3) It was borrowed by the Jews in Hebrew, and can be found in the Bible itself; in fact, in the Old Testament it is written 11 times. In Song of Songs 5:16 we find the MHMD is "The Altogether Lovely One", referring to Solomon, but promising the Messiah Himself, who is yet to come. So, in order to be the "MHMD" you have to be the promised Jewish Messiah, and thus the descendant of David.
4) In the 4th century, the Christian's church father St. Ambrose, picked up this theme, declaring that the MHMD, who is the Messiah, the anointed one, is indeed Jesus Christ. So, now by the 4th century the Jews are looking for their MHMD to appear the first time, while the Christians are waiting for their MHMD to appear the 2nd time.
5) In Jewish thinking there are actually 2 Messiahs (2 MHMDs); the first MHMD ben Joseph, who would be the suffering servant, followed by the second MHMD ben David, who would be the conquering king. Christians believe that both are found in Jesus Christ.
6) In 523 AD a Jewish inscription from Najran (in present day Yemen) refers to the MHMD. But how can this be referring to the Muslim 'Muhammad' since this is 50 years before he is even born, and he never lived in Yemen, South Arabia?
7) Then in 663 AD the Umayyad Caliph Muawiya, in Damascus, mints a coin with himself pictured on the front, holding a cross in his hand and another cross placed on his head. On the back side of the coin we find a third cross, and the name MHMD printed at the bottom. This can't be the Muslim prophet, Muhammad, because clearly it is a Christian coin. The MHMD printed on the bottom has to be Jesus, the anointed one, the Messiah; in other words, the Christian MHMD.
8) In the 660s Muawiya has an inscription erected at the dam of Ta'if with his name written in Greek (notice not in Arabic), and he refers to himself as the "Abdallah", which means "The servant of God", who is the "Commander of the believers". But which believers? Look at the upper left corner of the inscription and you will see a cross; thus, he is the commander of the Christians. So, both the coins and the inscriptions clearly state that this MHMD is Jesus Himself, the anointed one, the Messiah.
9) Meanwhile the Jews in the 7th century claimed that their exilarchs (the Jewish Arab authorities in what is today Iraq) were each the Messiah whom they were waiting for. In 614 AD the Exilarch Nehemiah ben Husiel died, and the Jews attach MHMD before his name, claiming he was the
Messiah.
10) His brother Salman al-Farsi is then given the title MHMD, becoming the next Messiah. In the 7th century, whenever an exilarch dies, the subsequent exilarch took on the title of MHMD. According to Chinese sources from that time, there were between 5 - 12 different Jewish exilarchs in Iraq who took on the title MHMD. Notice that none of these Jewish MHMDs were in the central part of Arabia called the Hijaz, where Mecca and Medina are located, because there is no WATER there. They were all 1000 miles further north, where water is plentiful.
11) The Abbasids came to power in the 8th century. They didn't have their own prophet, nor their own revelation. So, they then introduce a 3rd MHMD, who is their prophet, their Messiah, as a fulfillment of the Jewish and Christian MHMDs; and thus he becomes "The Seal of the Prophets". The Chinese claim this happens in 756 AD.
12) Once they have their own MHMD, who they call 'Muhammad'; he needs a revelation. That is why all of the Qur'ans begin to appear at this time, and his "Back-story" (the Sira, Hadith, Tafsir & Tarikh) are written and codified a century later, in the 9th - 10th centuries.
CONCLUSION: The Muhammad of Islam is a complete phantom, created in the Abbasid period to fulfill the earlier Jewish and Christian MHMDs (Messiahs), who is yet to appear.
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics & Polemics - US, June 23, 2024
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Mel is the Darling of Speakers Corner, Glad to see him there.
You guys have to write a book on your findings
Good to see Dr Jay and Mel in person better than thousands miles away. God bless both 🙏
@dadasha
6 күн бұрын
Yeah with that doggy fancy fake background of Mel's setup!
It was a pleasure meeting Mel.
@IslamicOrigins
6 күн бұрын
Likewise! 🙏
Pray for Dr Jay and Mel and your team. Days will go pass all Muslims will bow down before Jesus confessing Jesus is the Lord ❤❤❤
@IslamicOrigins
6 күн бұрын
Please God! 🙏
@corinnajones9030
6 күн бұрын
It will sadly be too late for most of them.
@tommyrotton9468
5 күн бұрын
I'd just be happy if they stop trying to be like this Muhammad.
@Popalongkid
3 күн бұрын
First off , I’m not here to refute or agree with this topic ! But what I find ironic is how they just took so much time to meticulously analyze the origins of the name Muhammad and how it was originally pronounced and written , just to associate it with Jesus !! But history tells us that Jesus is not the correct Aramaic name of Yasuha !! How do you purport one to be incorrect while teaching the other incorrectly ? 😮
@corinnajones9030
3 күн бұрын
@@Popalongkid I find it ironic that you're in the opinion that Jay, the lifelong scholar of Christianity and Islam, the child of missionaries, who attended school with children in the Islamic part of India is wrong. Meanwhile your opinionated self must be correct? I suggest you slow down and check again.
Great work Mel and Jay!
In early 7th century there wasnt even a Mekka! I looked it up!
@corinnajones9030
6 күн бұрын
Jay proves it in his videos. Mekka and Medina were insignificant villages away from trade routes.
@olami8
12 сағат бұрын
Mecca never existed then. Bacca is referred to in the Quran. Quran replaces Bacca with Mecca.
This fabulous well done for saying it publicly Mel and for Dr Jay Smith’s support 👍
Thanks for all the encouraging comments! I thought Jay and I got it across very suciently. I wasn't sure until I watched it back if it would be clear but it seems readily comprehensible, even those new to this.
@TheThornbird21
6 күн бұрын
Absolutely 👍 This has been a delight to watch, clear and lively and very compréhensible. Great Job Mel 👍
@123dsj123
6 күн бұрын
Thank you, Mel!
Maith an fear Mel! Proud to see a fellow Irish person standing there.
@IslamicOrigins
5 күн бұрын
Delighted to represent the Emerald Isle in this historical critique of Islam.
We need this video to go viral.
I can't imagine myself at speakers corner .. my voice will be inaudible 😂😂
@pfanderfilms
5 күн бұрын
Saint Murad, we would mic you up, as we did with Mel, so you could easily be heard by the camera, which is where you need to be heard, since that is where the real audience for this material is.
I'm sorry for those fooled into living for a myth but the ones who killed for it earned the fruits of their own character.
@sheikhboyardee556
6 күн бұрын
There are other religions & cults that have some problems but no one bothers them because they are non-violent, tolerant & easy to get along with so they fly under the radar. They believe as they wish & most people, being tolerant themselves do not bother them. Islam is different as it has been shown to be not a real religion, just a copy of others, violent & intolerant. That's the reason so many people are researching it showing it for what it is. It will be gone within 50 years.
@ragael1024
6 күн бұрын
@@sheikhboyardee556 doubt it. they plan on silencing England, Germany and France through imposing Sharia. 3countries that have produced many researchers criticizing Islam. Dawahs are pucking and chosing bits of info that fit their narrative while removing all others, as well as "taking advantage" of tghe general lack of arabic knowledge and telling us what verses actually mean, when in fact many times they've been caught lying by arabic speaking ppl. it will take a lot longer than 50years to dismantle the religion. and if liberals still have power over us, it may never fall.
@tommyrotton9468
5 күн бұрын
@@sheikhboyardee556 I don't know. the Mongols crushed Islam, but like weeds after the Mongols left the cult returned. It must be addictive and brainwashing in some way as the texts are obviously false and nonsensical?
Super stuff. After this, I revisited Jay and Mel's conversation (published 22nd April 2024), _MHMD [15] Ben of Tuleda suggests Muhammad lived 500 years later!_ , reporting on the travelog of Benjamin of Tudela, a 12th century rabbi... “....When [Benjamin of Tudela] visited Baghdad, he met the Caliph Al-Abbasi, who not only knew all about Israel, but knew how to read and speak Hebrew as well, and befriended him. This strong relationship with the Jews and with Israel goes against everything we know about Islam and the Jews from within the Islamic Traditions. Benjamin mentions that Al-Abbasi was regarded by the men of Islam as "Mohammed", and when they came to Baghdad to do the Haj, they kissed his robe, believing that he was Allah's holy presence on earth, much like the earlier Jewish Exilarchs. So, it seemed that in the 12th century, this caliph, Al-Abbasi, was the focus of their pilgrimage, and was their "Mohammed". He mentioned that the Jews and the "Mohammedans" (notice that he doesn't use the word "Muslims" here) were to pay allegiance to the Caliph Al-Abbasi, or they would receive 100 lashes. At this time the Jewish Exilarch, Ali, was the Vice-regent (the administrative deputy) to the Caliph Al-Abbasi, who came out once a year as Mohammad. Consequently, the vice-regent Ali, who ruled all year long, actually had more power than Mohammed the caliph, since he ruled only for one day. This relationship between Ali and Mohammed, it seems, continued right up until the Mongols came and conquered that whole area of Iraq and Syria in 1219-1221, and usurped their power. So, the major question we need to ask is when then did Islam as we know it really begin? Did it begin with the Abbasids after the 8th century, as we have assumed up to now, or did it begin much later, sometime after the 12th century, or even as late as the Ottoman dynasty, and then redacted back to the 7th century?” I look forward to future 'news of the past' from Mel and Jay. Thank you!
@elitezafficobra2288
5 күн бұрын
WHERE did god the Father GET the “Son” Jesus FROM before the creation of the universe?
@RoninofRamen
4 күн бұрын
@@elitezafficobra2288 That is a non sequitur. Announcing that "I don't understand, or even care to try to understand the doctrine of the Holy Trinity" does not counter the historic question of Mohammad's supposed existence. There are non-trinitarian sects of Christianity (Unitarian, Arian, Nestorian, JWs etc.) as well as other religions with links to the Hebrew canon Judaism, Samaritanism, Manichaeism etc. so even if there were an issue with one doctrine in one branch of Christianity that doesn't make Islam true by default.
@elitezafficobra2288
4 күн бұрын
@@RoninofRamen If Jesus is god and eternal. Then WHERE did the Father GET the “ son” FROM before the universe ever existed. And 13.7 billion before the host Mary existed?
@elitezafficobra2288
4 күн бұрын
@@RoninofRamen All branches of Christianity still believe he is the “ son” of god.
I love seeing Mel at Speakers Corner! ❤
@IslamicOrigins
6 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😁
God bless you both! Mel seems to really come alive in public!!
I use to follow sin,now proclaim nicean creed.
@silverltc2729
6 күн бұрын
Heaven rejoices when one soul is saved. ❤
We miss Hatun ❤
@TheThornbird21
6 күн бұрын
Hatun burned out, she needed a time out I think.
@tommyrotton9468
5 күн бұрын
@@TheThornbird21 she had a chat with Tommy Robinson recently so least we know she is alive and well )
Smashing job at your first Ladder speaking brother MEL, and thank you God for sending brother Jay to help glorify your Name as the only lovely one , the only one sent for our redemption that great gift sent and never earned, and and most of all the one who rejoins us with our father that we can experience his love and bath in his continuance . A celebration is the word that MHMD represents , and upon its knowing we may finally understand the missing history that corrects the schism of Christianity and returns our Muslim brothers to our sides as it was in the beginning and as it should be in the end when we all sing of one accord.
Bravo! Brilliant, concise, and so damaging to the SIN. Facts don't lie and the historical facts contradict the claims of Islam.
Good work, Mel. 👍
5.20 Good to see Jay applauding Saint Ambrose. One of the Four "Latin Doctors". Check his teaching on the Holy Eucharist
So I am gathering the Arab nomads and raiders needed a Robin Hood legend to advance their empire and draw men to their cause.
@corinnajones9030
6 күн бұрын
That's a great summary of their motivation.
@mysotiras21
6 күн бұрын
more like a King Arthur, considering all the magic and fables we find in the SIN.
@olami8
12 сағат бұрын
Muhammad was really a Robin Hood.
Brilliant! Mel!
Great job Mel! The best summary of where we are at that I have heard! :)
Hello brother Mell!!
Mel nicely put it together. Nice and contextual. All together lovely
Now we understand why they aginst questions
Well done Mel!
IslamicOrgins is a good channel. Im glad jay is giving him exposure
Its was all a dream ✨️
You are doing a great job Sir. God bless you and bless your work. You are showing us how to debunk the lies of Islam
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Thanks for the researchers actively pursuing the misunderstanding among people of the old
It was exciting to see Mel. Hello Mel. We usually only saw your face .
Praying for Indonesian free from Islam
@IslamicOrigins
4 күн бұрын
I will releasing 2 videos in Indonesian in early July to help.
❤
Great summary - thank you.
It sound like manna in tamil sound like king
I S L A M - Incomprehensible Story Line Abashed Massively
@mysotiras21
6 күн бұрын
ISLAM: Idolatry, Satanic, Lying, Adultery, Murder.
Jay you have to love history ❤❤❤
I’ve always suspected that Mhmd is a title, and even with the Muslims, there was many leaders possibly using that title, until the 8th Century when it was all associated with one person.
Who comes from nowhere in the Garden of Eden, well you all know.
I would love Mel to debate Mansur . That would be pure entertainment 😅😅😅😅
This is mind-blowing. Who could forsee in the 8 th century that there would be the internet and research in the future.?😅
living in muslim majority country, I pretty well knew that the most conservative of them won't put picture in their house, rather, they put caligraphy of Arabic writing, but Muawiya, the supposed caliph put picture of living being in the coin and with cross?
What if there were 11 exilarchs and to this day they are still waiting for the arrival of the 12th?
@abj136
5 күн бұрын
sounds like Shia Islam
Dear Jesus, protect your children on the front lines of this battle. In Jesus name give them wisdom, to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. To speak the Truth in love so that your children who are seeking the Truth, can receive it.
💐❤️✝️❤️💐😇🙏👍👌👌
Superb explanation. Christ is God and the King of Kings.
Gabriel would have known about the Book of Galatians by the 7th century AD, being well read, and did he say that the following should be disregarded? "Galatians 4: 28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman." Good point, descendants of Egyptian slave women don't get birthrights, only descendants of Isaac or people who mentally identify as such while also believing Jesus is YHWH transformed into a higher level entity which is now anthropomorphic. YHWH is no more, he made the jump to Christ-consciousness and is now possibly the most powerful and advanced deity ever, now repulsed by the notion of livestock sacrifice.
Slavery Created The Arab Empire and a Religion. After the fall of the Roman Empire, an Arab Empire arose in the 7th century in the Middle East where victorious armies took captives who were sold on slave markets. In order to promote the sale of slaves in order to finance war of conquest the Abbasid Dynasty wrote stories about the Messenger of God, the ruler of Medina, so that the believers got a prophet and moral role model who was slave owner and had taken captives in war to use as slaves, thus the believers could without moral qualms buy the captives that were sold as slaves which provided the income to finance the conquest of a large Empire stretching from Spain to Pakistan.
SOng 5:16, You have to be Jewish, a son of David to qualify. It describes the Messiah.
Would have been good to see some audience expressions
Takes a Catholic!
YWHW wont ever be Muhammad. MHMD, could only be Jesus the praised one, (I'd rather call him the annointed though) but never Muhammad.
Jesus is King 👑
This should be shown in every mosque and Islamic schools across the globe for 30 days in a row!
@tommyrotton9468
5 күн бұрын
by right it should be shown in every secondary school as part of religious history. But we know full well that rent a beard mobs will be threatening to murder the teacher and the Police will protect the mob not the teacher.
So many on the ladder... so little wrestling... Jacob won't be pleased..
@123dsj123
6 күн бұрын
I am a Jacob still wrestling with God; and so are you. So is everyone.
@martinjackman2943
6 күн бұрын
@@123dsj123 Its an excellent metaphor for life.. But Jay and Mel are on an ACTUAL ladder... so I was joking.
@123dsj123
5 күн бұрын
@@martinjackman2943 I was delighted recently to see Dr. Jorden Peterson used the "Jacob Wrestling with God" as a metaphor of life. I think it was in a video entitled "People Who Wrestle with God". Thank you... I knew all along that you were joking.
I highly doubt any muslim knows this or will even look into it...because their whole worldview culture and family belongs to this....i could be wrong but aint most of the early people to formulate the quran and sayings and etc of persian origins...
Useful before rasulullah steal it
WHERE did god the father GET the “ son” Jesus FROM before the creation of the universe??
@IslamicOrigins
4 күн бұрын
Where did Allah get the words of the Qur'an from before the creation of the world? Were those words eternal or constructed in time? Look forward to an answer.
@elitezafficobra2288
4 күн бұрын
@@IslamicOrigins The Quran is the direct speech of Allah to mankind revealed to prophet Muhammad peace be upon him by Angel Gabriel. The ( original) Gospel and ( original ) Torah were also the direct speech of Allah to mankind. Both the Gospel and Torah without a doubt were changed, distorted and corrupted. Here are the reasons why and how the Gospel was violated. Before we begin I refer you to these words of Satan to Allah mentioned in the Quran. This event took place before Satan was expelled from paradise for disobeying Allah and misleading Adam and Eve. “ Let me live until The Day of Judgement and I swear by your Might and Honour I will lead them all astray” Allah said - “ Granted, but who ever among them follows your footsteps steps I will throw them into hell with you” A man by the name of St Paul destroyed the entire religion of Christianity from its core. After Jesus was taken to the heaven by Allah saving him from his torturers and tormentors . The Gospel was in its perfect form. The very early Christians worshiped only One all powerful, all knowing unseen God. Who is the sole creator of the entire universe. They believed Jesus was Allahs messenger and slave and lived life how he Jesus taught them and did not commit idolatry. Until one day a man by the name of St. Paul came along. One day while St Paul was pondering about the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ and the miracles he performed by the permission of Allah, Satan took the opportunity to whisper evil into his heart. This is what he mostly certainly whispered - “ He was a miracle birth, perhaps he was the “ son” of god”. St. Paul - “ umm sounds good, 🧐🤔” Now all St Paul hod to do at that very moment when Satan was attacking him with evil suggestions and whispers, is pray to Allah to protect from Satan and guide him to the Straight path. Pray to Allah the way Jesus peace be upon him taught. But he didn’t and began writing and spreading idolatry. And that’s how Christianity was destroyed from its core. The rest is history!! Now my friend. From the Christian perspective. If Jesus is eternal and god - WHERE did the Father GET the “ son” FROM before the creation of the universe. And 13.7 billion years before the host Mary ever existed?
@elitezafficobra2288
4 күн бұрын
@@IslamicOrigins The Quran is Allahs final speech to humanity. Now my friend. If Jesus is eternal which means no beginning and no end. Then WHERE did the Father GET the “son” FROM ?? Before the creation of the universe? And 13.7 billion years before Mary the host existed?
@dpatrick5164
3 күн бұрын
God the father tells you in Psalm 2: Pss.2 [7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
@elitezafficobra2288
3 күн бұрын
@@dpatrick5164 But WHERE did the Father GET the “ son” the second person FROM before the creation of the universe and BEFORE Mary the host ever existed??
The myth of Muhammad was always taking things from others, like the character of Muhammad in the myth. Jesus was called the Seal of the Prophets based on passages like Luke 24:27. "And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself." Jesus was the true seal because He fulfilled what the prophets had said about the Messiah. The Gospel of John chapter 1 introduces Jesus as the Light of God. The book of Colossians reveals that Jesus is the one for whom all things were created, not Muhammad. Muhammad is always trying to copy and take attributes that rightfully belong to jesus.
YOU CANNOT SHUT DOWN PROPHET MUHAMMAD BECAUSE IM THE LINK U NEED TO SHUT DOWN AND IV GOT JESUS AND ALL THE EVIDENCE AND I HAVE GOD
Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Jesus pbh prayed with head on floor same has Muslim.
@IslamicOrigins
Күн бұрын
Tenuous. Also Islam has copied how coptics prayed, movements etc. So get it right, Muslims try to mimic Jesus, not the other way round, and even then get most of it wrong.
@josephj5050
11 сағат бұрын
Jesus prayed to God as His Father as all Jews and Christians still do, because that is what the prophets reveal about the nature of the God of Abraham e.g.Prophet Malachi 2.10 These are the prophets Muslims are taught to believe in and accept, whilst believing in a god who rejects everything they say. Muslims cannot pray to Allah as a father,Allah is a father to no one and none of his 99 names include father. Allah proves to be a counterfeit god pretending to be the God of Abraham which is deception,and deception comes from Satan. Muslims continue to remain victims of this spiritual deception to this day, trusting their salvation in a lie. QED Islam is a fraud.
Jai sri ram i am proud to be hindu
Absoluter Schwachsinn
@IslamicOrigins
3 күн бұрын
History is nonsense to ahistorical mythicists but I prefer history.
@alijahalilovic32
3 күн бұрын
If you don,t understand what i said google the english translation
Jay take your shahada..
@TheThornbird21
6 күн бұрын
He’s uncovering the Islamic lies, why would he take shahada???
@jordanbey870
6 күн бұрын
@@TheThornbird21 He follows another set of lies which is Jesus so he might as well take shahada 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@silverltc2729
6 күн бұрын
There is no God but YHWH and Jesus is The Angel/Messenger of YHWH.
@jordanbey870
6 күн бұрын
@@silverltc2729 Nonsense...there is no God but money and you ain't got none..
@silverltc2729
6 күн бұрын
@@jordanbey870 lay off your crack pipe.
Jesus got hungry and ate. God does not need food. God created and provided us with our food. Jesus is NOT the one God.
@IslamicOrigins
6 күн бұрын
Try your best non fallacious argument. This argument is weak and you know it.
@MU-we8hz
6 күн бұрын
After reading this comment, allah became an apostate
@TheThornbird21
6 күн бұрын
😁😁😁😁 Your comment proves your lack of Knowledge. God the father is a spirit, a spirit doesn’t need food, doesn’t feel pain or hunger no die. Jesus ( the son of man) is the image of the unseen God in the flesh. Your argument is so old and rotten and still being repeated although it has been answered by many many Christian literatures, individuals, channels…
@aaronharun1394H
6 күн бұрын
The earlier idols (false deities) were statues erected of pious people of previous generations. These people were later wrongly prayed to and taken as deities. These type of misguided beliefs of taking humans as deities or gods exist in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present. A human taking another human as a deity or God is falsehood. It makes absolutely no sense for a human to pray to (worship) another human. Deity Incarnation where a human is believed to be a deity or God coming down in this world as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present. Claiming a human is God manifest as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions. Claiming a spirit in a human is a deity or God is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions. Claiming God having sons or daughters is among the misguides claims in pagan and polytheists religions. All that I mentioned about idolatry, pagan and polytheist religions you can look it up online including from their own sources. The misguided belief of taking Jesus as a deity or God is against what Jesus himself believe and taught. It is against what all the guided prophets that include Noah, Abraham and Moses believed and taught. It is against the foremost of the religion which is the first and foremost commandment. Abraham did not pray to Jesus which is a man's name. Abraham did not pray to three persons. God is not a human God created humans As great a human Jesus is, he still is human.
@aaronharun1394H
6 күн бұрын
Chosen messengers of God were sent by God throughout history to warn their communities of their errors. Noah and Abraham were messengers of God who were sent to warn their communities of their errors of idolatry and the consequences of Hellfire. Idolatry is a grave error and an unforgivable sin. The only way is to repent and leave that believe and practise. Muhammad was also sent to warn the arab pagans at the time of their errors of idolatry. As an ensuing messenger who is also the final messenger chosen after Jesus, Muhammad was also sent to warn the Christians of their error of believing Jesus is God and the consequences of Hellfire.
So much to learn thankyou my lovely Teachers .
moooo who? mad😡