What do you think of the good cop - bad cop technique and do you think it’s too manipulative?

@MMAFightMagazine

Ай бұрын

If investigators are allowed to lie during interrogations, I don't see why "Good cop, Bad cop" might be considered "too manipulative" by jurors, etc. Question: How do jurors typically view confessions that came afterr/ as a result of investigators having "lied" about a thing, as opposed to confessions that came via Good cop Bad cop?

@kaylahall1219

Ай бұрын

I like the Reid technique

@Toastmalone6192

Ай бұрын

Not rly

@alleyhuntt5096

Ай бұрын

they arent trying to get a confession because they already know he did it he is a behavior/risk dude

@jessicalynn6285

Ай бұрын

The detective who enters the room as the "bad cop" is Jim Smyth, the same amazing detective who interrogated and got a full confession from Colonel Russell Williams. Derek has a video that breaks down that interrogation and it shows how GOOD Jim is at interrogating suspects, he KNOWS what he's doing. Good cop bad cop doesn't always work. It is thought that the sudden change in emotions can throw a suspect off, and when the bad cop is gone, in that moment of relief, the suspect might say something he wouldn't have said prior. When watching the full interrogation, you see that Jim Smyth's bad cop DID have a big effect on Michael. He even expresses his fear that someone is going to come in "barking" at him again. I love ya, Derek, but I think Michaels reactions just shows they used this technique for a reason. I believe they attempted this technique believing knew it might be the best and ONLY way possible to get ANY information out of him at all. Also, the relentless talking by the first detective wasn't him intentionally using that old interrogation technique. He wasn't doing this believing he was wearing him down to the point of confession. The detective is doing this to prevent the suspect from having a chance to even think, let alone a chance to come up with any explanation or think about how to refute evidence presented. He is also doing it to keep his confidence low, he is seeking information but doesn't even entertain the suspect's denial. He is also presenting himself as the complete opposite of intimidating and direct- nonthreatening and endless rambling. Both of these detectives are with Ontario Provincial Police, which has a highly trained behavioral sciences unit, and their subdivision of forensic psychiatry is recognized as one of the best in the world.

This scenario feels like when you were at school and got paired with the worst person for a project.

@FNigslol

22 күн бұрын

What a stupid comment

The detective who enters the room as the "bad cop" is Jim Smyth, the same amazing detective who interrogated and got a full confession from Colonel Russell Williams. Derek has a video that breaks down that interrogation and it shows how GOOD Jim is at interrogating suspects, he KNOWS what he's doing. Good cop bad cop doesn't always work. It is thought that the sudden change in emotions can throw a suspect off, and when the bad cop is gone, in that moment of relief, the suspect might say something he wouldn't have said prior. When watching the full interrogation, you see that Jim Smyth's bad cop DID have a big effect on Michael. He even expresses his fear that someone is going to come in "barking" at him again. I love ya, Derek, but I think Michaels reactions just shows they used this technique for a reason. I believe they attempted this technique believing it might be the best and ONLY way possible to get ANY information out of him at all. They did so after considerating all other options of what could work on Michael. Also, the relentless talking by the first detective wasn't him intentionally using that old interrogation technique. He wasn't doing this believing he was wearing him down to the point of confession. The detective is doing this to prevent the suspect from having a chance to even think, let alone a chance to come up with any explanation or think about how to refute evidence presented. He is also doing it to keep his confidence low, he is seeking information but doesn't even entertain the suspect's denial. He is also presenting himself as the complete opposite of intimidating and direct- nonthreatening and endless rambling. Both of these detectives are with Ontario Provincial Police, which has a highly trained behavioral sciences unit, and their subdivision of forensic psychiatry is recognized as one of the best in the world.

Good to see you on the platform again!!!

@ryankueter8396

Ай бұрын

Do you mean KZread or what

@folkloreofbeing

Ай бұрын

​@@ryankueter8396 No, they meant at the train station 😁

The GOATs back

Fail miserably? The one detective is the best ive ever seen……. He also got col Russell Williams to confess in one of the best interrogations you’ll see online

@andythomas9564

Ай бұрын

And you just mention this 😂

@piediepew

Ай бұрын

Well the technique was literally never close to working in this case so you can say it failed miserably, doesn't mean he's not a good detective

@andythomas9564

Ай бұрын

@@piediepew these guys didn’t fail….justice was served as much as Canadian’s do… i think this dude and the girl that helped him both should’ve been put down….that little girls last day must’ve been so scary to her….i get what you’re saying though, the pacific “good cop, bad cop” technique if that was their plan may not have went as planned….i would’ve definitely had to be the bad cop…very bad cop to this pos

@cdmray

Ай бұрын

He did pointed out and praised the detective on the Russel Williams case in the beginning of the video. Just that this particular case wasn't effective using the good cop bad cop strategy.

@FNigslol

22 күн бұрын

Ya this guy is a moron, the good cop bad cop was fine. It rarely works. They didn't need a confession is a huge fact he's blatantly unaware of

You know Smith must have been frustrated with his colleague

@jabarhenv5933

Ай бұрын

exactly he's being too brash smh

@jessicalynn6285

Ай бұрын

I actually see it as both of them doing specifically what they planned on doing together, prior to this interrogation taking place. How could they attempt the "god cop, bad cop" technique without knowing exactly how the other was going to act and what the other would say? BOTH of these detectives are with Ontario Provincial Police, which has a highly trained behavioral sciences unit, and their subdivision of forensic psychiatry is recognized as one of the best in the world. This was not an average interrogation, both detectives literally planned this approach. The first detective wasn't just a clueless, rambling idiot. The whole thing was planned and orchestrated, he is acting like this on purpose, as they both planned for him to act. I really think they specifically choose this technique believing it might be the only option to get any information out of Michael, after profiling and understanding what would affect Michael. The relentless talking by the first detective wasn't him intentionally using that old interrogation technique. He wasn't doing this believing he was wearing him down to the point of confession. The detective is doing this to prevent the suspect from having a chance to even think, let alone a chance to come up with any explanation or think about how to refute evidence presented. He is also doing it to keep his confidence low, he is seeking information but doesn't even entertain the suspect's denial. Jim Smyth and this defective PLANNED for the detective to act like this. He is deliberately presenting himself as the complete opposite of intimidating and direct- nonthreatening and endless rambling. Did this knowing exactly how Jim Smyth was going to be, aggressive and direct. The Mutt and Jeff technique (good cop, bad cop) doesn't always work. Michael WAS affected by Jim, expressing his fear that someone was going to come in "barking" at him again. His reaction shows why they choose to attempt it. Ultimately his crime was so horrendous that nothing could get him to talk.

This was a HEINOUS DISGUSTING crime! Absolutely vile !

its so fascinating watching the chris watts interrogation vs this one. the investigators in the watts case played good cop bad cop very well.

Its hard to overstate how much you have taught me and how much I have enjoyed our time together

Nice to see you back Derek.

Hi Derek, I love your videos and always get excited whenever I receive notification of a new release. Your speaking, editing, etc. are on point and I always learn something new. The Criminal Minds part had me rolling. 😂

I'm just glad for any content you're working on I always enjoy what you are doing.

jcs criminal psychology covered this interrogation in depth and even though it did t work this time the police officers are some of the best at this.

I think the good cop/bad cop technique can be effective if done right by experienced detectives but in this situation, they bombed that play. On the other hand, I find that a single detective interrogating a suspect is more efficient due to the fact that a single force is less overwhelming for the suspect. If a single detective starts off as the "good cop" obviously, then, the suspect will be more inclined to relinquish possible damning details. Always a thrill to watch your videos Derek!

They did everything they could to get a confession out of him. They tried every trick in the book. He was set on fighting it in court, and he wasn't going to confess no matter what. He still denies all of it to this day🤷‍♂️ The detective, in this case, is one of the best I've ever seen.

Love the Rubix Cubes in the background.

@Redeemedpooper

Ай бұрын

Did you see the lamp!!!!!

Some of those cops clearly don't understand how to do their job.

Really happy to see your pumping out some videos!!

Great to see you posting! Sadly sometimes you vids don’t show on my subs feed!

Yay! You're back! Awesome to see you back GOAT! 🙏🥳👏❤

Have missed you Derek glad to see you again.☺.Watching from Oz👀

i really like the video editing of the videos the last 1-2 years. I never expected to be that intrested in videos like this but ur making them so entertaining. Amazing job, keep it going

I feel if I were the sus, I wouldn’t swallow the bad vs good cop scenario. It’s blatantly obvious. It’s condescending and very clear what they are both attempting to do.

Thanks for the upload 👍🇺🇸

So happy to have you back! ❤

Great video

Love your videos man. Wish you uploaded more frequently. You are the reason I'm studying body language and working on my degree in psychology

You deserve more subs.

Keep doing these types of interrogation videos, its very interesting.

I still miss the "welcome back to the channel schaikerssss". Still top notch content though. And oh man those AIM sfx 😂

Love this channel

Good job sir.

Compared to Graham Coder and Tammy Lee in the Chris Watts case, every detective looks like a rookie.

They should have just traded an oxy for a confession 😅

Well they got the room layout and placement right. 👍🏻🤷🏻‍♂️

Good video

“Good Cop” wasn’t a good interrogator. 😅

Yeah~ A video~ I am dying for a super long video from you again. I feel like everyone who has watched a cop show understands Good Cop, Bad Cop. I wonder if basic knowledge of the technique makes it any less effective.

You need to upload videos more often!

@folkloreofbeing

Ай бұрын

He has a LOT of studying to do. He does this in his free time! He could just be relaxing, but here he is.

That was spot on.

Sad to see Jim Smythe, the GOAT of interrogation, fail like this.

I thought Smith had a bald spot?!

They should have did bad cop bad cop, like in The Other Guys 😂

Crazy because I've heard from other channels that the interrogation of the Canadian Air Force dude was particularly professional and an exceptional job. Do we think it was solely "good cop" that threw him off?

I’m embarrassed to watch this 😂 so embarrassed it hurts 💀 please make it stop 😂

BODY LANGUAGE!

A smart person knows that there is no chance of winning in an interview room. Shut up and call a lawyer

Should have asserted his right to keep quiet and to talk only to his court appointed lawyer.

You still got your Lamborghini

Blabbermouth good cop! 😂 Hilarious! The "good cop" is really really bad at interrogation, I think I saw Jim Smyth holding back because it looked like his hands wanted to reach out to the other cop to stop him from blabbing. Jim tried so hard and set up so many opportunities for Michael to answer but the other cop couldn't stop his blabbering every single time. It would have been better if Jim worked alone on this one like he did with Colonel Russell Williams.

Is Bret Hart the interrogator?

JCS seems to disagree

@7beers

Ай бұрын

How so?

Its the old buddy cop gag... both wanna be the bad cop In this case you have to shift from good cop bad cop, to bad cop worse cop...

They should have played bad-cop bad-cop.

My impression of Mr. Schaik is that he's a narcissistic, somewhat over theatrical showman; the ringmaster in a world that revolves totally around him. He at first seems comical, like a comedian playing a pompous, over acting phony. He seems to be a Mulligan's Stew of multiple actors like Jim Carry, Chris Hanson and the Djin from the Wishmaster movies. In his grandiosity he might actually identify with the Wishmaster; a larger than life omnipotent demon dishing out cruel yet often deserved punishments as he grants selfish desires in unexpected, ironic twists. I hope he's just method acting. All the ear marks of psychopathy are present so for his own sake and that of society I truly hope that he IS simply acting.

This is a case related to Celina SpookyBoo 😱

Are you out of your mind? I've seen it and interrogation and they did a good job.

Ask for a lawyer and say nothing.

One Vid Already Down The Hatch 😎

Absolute goober for being a bad good cop

I don't get it, both are cops, they are in the same team, so why confess to anyone anything. It is irrelevant if they are nice to me or not and if I get anxious that means the team is trying to manipulate me

Interrogators should take lessons from mothers.

They didn't fail, they were masterful, the crime was just too terrible too admit too...

😂

🤙🏿🤙🏿

First

Looks like Bad cop was killing it. Doing all the right things. Good cop was a screw-up.

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You're assuming from the start Derek that you are talking to the person who committed the crime. You should explain before the interrogation even started how they came to be arrested and any evidence or witnesses who saw them. All that should be in the hands of the police before they talk to the suspects. They are the building blocks that will be added to if the suspect is guilty. Many an innocent person can be tricked into making a confession to something he didn't do and the police become convinced they have the culprit because that's what they want to believe. It can easily happen to vulnerable people who are suddenly in shock and feel intimidated by their situation.

That video window of you is so distracting and unnecessary man...fkn hell. Why change cameras? 🤦🏻

too much monologue by youtuber ;(

Damn bro, you fell off bad

@alexryder545

Ай бұрын

His platform is censored due to his analysis of various politicians and members of the elite

👎👎

Please repost your video about dementia & Biden. I thought everyone knew!

Never use a female as an accomplice

The fact that people STILL talk to police baffles me. This is why if u plan to do a crime, do it alone, and don’t tell anyone. So many idiots, and not enough people who fail to comprehend “nobody talks, everyone walks”, as well as having an attorney present during questioning. I’m glad the bad guys are being caught, but this just shows how many idiots don’t know their rights, or the most obvious police interrogation techniques

Your new cam angles and play dress up makes you seem too over the top. I don’t like this and I’m sure others don’t as well which is probably why the views haven’t been what they were.

Wow you talk way too much. Ruined the video and spent way to much time over explaining everything

Good video