Jim Morrison’s father was in charge of the Gulf Tonkin fleet that was the false flag incident that started the Vietnam War. Pretty crazy stuff

@illuminahde

Ай бұрын

Dave McGowan wrote a great book about the connections between the music and the intelligence agencies specifically. The number of bands from that period whose parents were working in high level Intelligence positions is certainly statistically relevant.

@CantTellYou

Ай бұрын

@@illuminahde His episode of JRE was so damn good, I should probably read that book but I’m illiterate I swear

@blakemorgner

Ай бұрын

There's a great documentary that covers a lot of this from the start to the early 2000s. It's called "drugs used as weapons against us: the cia's use and targeting of musicians and activists"

@MuddieRain

Ай бұрын

And he was at Pearl Harbor

@DangleSan

Ай бұрын

There's also a lot of info and books out there that State that LSD and other drugs were introduced To certain rock band members at parties

Jim Morrison and his dad were in the middle of the greatest "generation gap" in history. They were literally brought up in two completely different times in history. His father was old school and Jim was in the first generation that really broke free of their parents era and values.

@kathrynmcelroy5658

Ай бұрын

The CIA created Jim Morrison. HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

@kathrynmcelroy5658

Ай бұрын

Giving the CIA too much credit for orchestration.

@PercivalTheSeeker1982

Ай бұрын

I could see the CIA funding Rock music and even the New age movement to drive a wedge between generations. The purpose: To separate children from their parent's core values, and turn them into pawns of the State. Children nowadays are taught that Institutions have the authority and the moral high ground. Parents are a burden with their outdated culture. Grandparents are forgotten all too soon. It is a sad state of affairs.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

Ай бұрын

"Broke free" into a meaningless void of narcissism and nothingness. Morrison was one of the most overrated "poets" of his generation. At least Bob Dylan has some coherent things to say about relationships and cultural change. Morrison was just an LSD saturated freak.

@nxnu2119

Ай бұрын

Look up the book "Drugs a weapon against us"

Book is called Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & The Dark Heart Of The Hippie Dream, Written by David McGowan, who died in 2015.

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Bluemoonfarm17

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m going to put that one on my list!

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

@@Bluemoonfarm17 Just got it a few days ago. Great book.

I never thought about it like that but it makes a lot of sense, you went from chaotic jazz to rock to gangsta rap to cartel and terrorist org music, so its definitely something

@biowerks

Ай бұрын

You never thought about it ike that? What? How old are you?

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

It's all CIA. ALL of the pro-drug, anti-war musicians were children of 5 star generals, and their music was filmed by the US government's propaganda studios in Lookout Mountain Base. Where they filmed the Moon landing.

@poepoe99999

Ай бұрын

90s

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

@@poepoe99999 You're too old to be online!

@poepoe99999

Ай бұрын

@@Flat_Earth_Addy womp womp

“Eddie Bravo made me read a book about it” and then I had the author of the book on my show but got so high I forgot about it.

@jackmehoff2363

Ай бұрын

To be fair, i a person who listened to it, also forgot

@arthurguitar

Ай бұрын

Book is called Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & The Dark Heart Of The Hippie Dream, by David McGowan, who died in 2015.

@michaelstarmer7760

Ай бұрын

And CHAOS by Tom O’Neil. He is the guy Joe had on

@arthurguitar

Ай бұрын

@@michaelstarmer7760 aah thanks for this. I didn’t actually know about it 👍🏻

@jlindsay

Ай бұрын

Hollywood Vampires. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGdoktJqn7bHY6g.htmlsi=DJpGU8ZbtKmpRLad ?;33Rrg

The CIA be like, " Come on baby light my fire"

@Bartgoeschurch

Ай бұрын

🤯

@nickh4676

Ай бұрын

Beats came from the aliens 👽 😂

@jlindsay

Ай бұрын

MTVPied Piper. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2tlq9iLnZy7mdo.htmlsi=NYJs1qREkQEhNWdn ?555Fgh

The Grateful Dead song US Blues has a line that says " I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am. I've been hiding out in a rock n roll band". Robert Hunter wrote the song. He was an LSD test subject in the CIA MkUltra program.

@CantTellYou

Ай бұрын

lol imagine the chaos in the jam band community if the Grateful Dead got officially tied to something like that

@gr8ful4dead

Ай бұрын

NFA❤️⚡️💙

@Odd_Combo

Ай бұрын

​@@CantTellYouI thought it had been long-established that TGD had ties to the CIA, largely via Jerry Garcia...

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

True lyrics.

@biscuits4usall103

Ай бұрын

@@CantTellYou Haha yeah I'm sure people would flip. I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I love the dead and most music from the 60s. Whatever role the CIA played the music stands on its own.

My car cd player broke. It wouldn’t play ANY cds except The Doors.

@user-tv6ig4mx2o

Ай бұрын

The only band that really matters.

@kevinclements7977

Ай бұрын

It’s not broke then 😆

@lizardking7772

Ай бұрын

It just got taste

@jimrobcoyle

Ай бұрын

LA Woman is the best long distance drive album ever.

@nikhiljay9170

Ай бұрын

I wanna believe you. : )

Jim Morrison‘s father was a rear admiral in the US Navy, and was active in the gulf of Tonkin during all of this. Morrison never publicly divulge this fact.

CIA is Also involved in hip-hop.

@betooo331

Ай бұрын

Diddy Done

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. The FBI destroyed the Black Panther movement from within and assassinated some of its leaders. The CIA worked with both Bloods and Cripps to flood Black neighborhoods with crack.

@joshuadavidson662

Ай бұрын

Ba ha ha ha 😂 when u think ushers coming out​@@betooo331

@ssaaa4480

Ай бұрын

No diddy

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

True.

Joe's rabbit holes have rabbit holes.

@te9591

Ай бұрын

All you need is a top hat in a top hat to pull a rabbit out of the hole.

@americannightmare2109

Ай бұрын

Jim Morrison was actually a bear

They are talking about Zoolander with Will Farrell as Mogatu.

@minimatemasterworks

Ай бұрын

But why male models...

@GodsOwnPrototype

Ай бұрын

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

@dontsleeponyourstomach

Ай бұрын

God?

@Ave_Rage_Joe

Ай бұрын

Yeah I also thought she was talking about the Josie and The Pussycats movie as well

@mfo7611

Ай бұрын

Hansel Hansel.😊

Frank Zappa's father was a chemist in a weapons lab Steven Stills father was life long military David Crosby's father made movies for the military (and Hollywood) Joni Mitchell's father was military in Canada Jackson Browne's father was military and wrote for the Stars and Stripes newspaper John Phillips (mamas & the papas) father was lifelong military While it does seem suspicious on the surface, their parents, most likely, were caught up in World War II, when just about everyone was working for the military in some capacity.

@WoodenWizard

Ай бұрын

suspicious? lol. not even on the surface dude. you know how many people's parents were in the military? lol. so many! lol come on man. wake up!

@otmossampacado1550

Ай бұрын

It kinda seems like the kids going against the military order lifestyle of their fathers, similar to children of priest n pastors going against the religious lifestyle of their fathers to become atheists or non religious

@johnnyshanksalot8358

Ай бұрын

In 'some' capacity perhaps but not a whole lot of low level privates on that list. It's 1 of those '1 of these things can be a coincidence but all of them together cannot' typa things. The history of the canyon itself combined with the resumes of those families combined with 1950s military origins of the drug culture (particularly in Haight Ashbury and so on) reveal a very different history.

@Noumenon4Idolatry

Ай бұрын

@@otmossampacado1550 Exactly They are called Rebels 😄

@TheNancypoo

Ай бұрын

Yessssss!!!! Every single musician in that scene had a parent in the government or military and not one served in Vietnam! Weird…

"I'm uncle Sam hiding out in a rock-n-roll band." The greatful dead

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

True.

@jimrobcoyle

Ай бұрын

"I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am, been hiding out in a rock and roll band." "Chicken Shack? Back to back? Sonofagun you better change your act" "Give me five, still alive". .. The Dead are a counter operation to the CIA operation, in my Boomer opinion.

I love cold war conspiracies man. It never gets old hahaaa

@stevilkenevil9960

Ай бұрын

The literal term "conspiracy theory" is a CIA terminology used to discredit opposition views

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

Why would you laugh???

CIA brought LSD into the rock movement. Just like crack cocaine was brought into the rap movement

@DoYoHomework-tc6cx

Ай бұрын

I can believe that

@Dovahkiin0117

28 күн бұрын

Nah that slipped out and they tried cracking down on it and putting everything else in a bad light hence the war on drugs Lsd was making people quit the cia

“Television children fed. Unborn living, living dead”

“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”

@Joonzi

Ай бұрын

Like genocide, and most human sufferings.. So true

@zZzJohnnyBoyzZz

Ай бұрын

who's quote?

There's the same conspiracy with Punk with Miles Copeland's dad being CIA.

@yourt00bz

Ай бұрын

stuart copeland

@pallascat1743

Ай бұрын

​@yourt00bz Yeah they're brothers. Miles produced (Dead Kennedys, REM, The Police and The Cramps) and Stuart was the drummer in The Police. They have another sibling Ian Copeland who promoted New Wave bands.

@metalahhhhhhhhhhhh

Ай бұрын

Whoa didn't know this, only thing like this in punk I knew of was Sex Pistols manager. Dead Kennedys is lil scary tho didn't know the CIA got that close to hardcore. I know they stayed away from Suicidal Tendencies they had lyrics about em lol

@danauburn1119

Ай бұрын

Guys. Music literally produces emotions. Why the hell WOULDNT the cia abuse and manipulate this by manafacturing their own narrative being mainstream

@andreavanda5402

Ай бұрын

It's ALL CIA!

You really need to get Jay Dyer on

Dave McGowan’s book…Weird Scenes inside the canyon I believe…RIP Dave McGowan

@Aaros-SL

Ай бұрын

Everyone should read all of Dave's books

@mrselfish7764

Ай бұрын

​@@Aaros-SLread Programmed to Kill!

@Aaros-SL

Ай бұрын

​@mrselfish7764 For sure, I own it. Talk about rabbit holes, that's a deep one!

The CIA definitely made American Abstract Expressionist Painting an international phenomena. How, they bought there paintings for huge $.

@barbaramccoy6448

Ай бұрын

Like Hunter's

He was an admiral.

@user-xr2lv4ll6j

Ай бұрын

That was very admiral of him.

@Simpleman88

Ай бұрын

Right

@d_boneswish1296

Ай бұрын

Which is a naval general

@Simpleman88

Ай бұрын

@@d_boneswish1296 yes

Rogan needs a separate "True Conspiracies" type podcast, like MMA.

@user-xr2lv4ll6j

Ай бұрын

MMA is a conspiracy?

@Flat_Earth_Addy

Ай бұрын

He's a sell-out now.

Look what the CIA has done with rap. Absolutely devastating.

Had me thinking of the frames Brad Pitt puts in films in fight club 😂😂

As a parent. Him being the complete opposite of his dad isn't that big of a stretch

Led zep, was crowleys student

Imagine the child of a military man being rebellious. Probably the first case of this...

Look into the Tavistock group. The Beatles start with, I Wanna Hold Your Hand. They are then brought into the homes of many young people. The Beatles then release Strawberry Fields and Helter Skelter.

There’s this crazy conspiracy… that turns out to be true…

@minekush1138

Ай бұрын

funny how that works 😂

@charlespancamo9771

Ай бұрын

It makes sense if you know nothing about Morrison and what he said, promoted, and believed AKA you're an idiot whom just blindly believes things they hear.

@Mannyr-bu7qv

Ай бұрын

Naw it usually isn't

@andreavanda5402

Ай бұрын

@@Mannyr-bu7qv Yeah, it usuall is!

Like a dog without a home or actor that is stoned, riders on a storm....one of the best songs of all time

@thetruth1862

Ай бұрын

Actor out on lone

@justinmathewson3692

Ай бұрын

*Dog without a bone

@spinapex2469

Ай бұрын

Riders on the storm Into this house we're born Into this world we're thrown Like a dog without a bone An actor out on loan Riders on the storm Least deep, easiest rhyming, song writing (randomly saying whatever) lyrics ever. Unless you were trippin' enough to follow along like every other fashionably vegged-out ego-maniacal long hair ever. The false egos some kids took to was saddening.

@all_invite_0hm

Ай бұрын

You fucked that lyric up so bad

@justinmathewson3692

Ай бұрын

@@spinapex2469 your brain is squirming like a toad 🐸

Just remember a fact many have forgotten..that the Doors were Hated! By the hippies by 1969…my friends father who grew up in the sixties would tell us..that it was “Uncool” to like the doors by 1971. and when Morrison dies no one really cared..it was not until 1979 that they were “revived” not by boomers but by generation X after Francis Ford Coppola put “The End” into Apocalypse Now…they were soo buried by adult contemporary rock boomers that many young people at the time..thought they were a new band..and of course “No one here gets out alive” was published…they influenced many 80s bands…yep gen x..people are ignorant to actual history. I remember this as I was one of these gen Xrs…

@charlespancamo9771

Ай бұрын

well he thought the hippies were a bunch of pussies that failed to fight the system because of their cowardice. He was right and he let them know that. Of course they didn't like him.

@user-hl1nn9mw8k

Ай бұрын

Facts. David Crosby stated plenty of times that he hated The Doors.

@televinv8062

Ай бұрын

I agree with you to some extent. The Doors were still a pretty big concert draw into 1970 probably because of both 'Light my Fire' and later, 'Touch Me', huge hits. So, not sure it was 'uncool' to like The Doors. Young people knew they were a '60's band when Apocalypse Now came out. Although I agree the movie got many to dig deeper into The Doors music for sure.

@televinv8062

Ай бұрын

​@user-hl1nn9mw8k The Doors music was 'rebel' music. I can see Crosby dismissing them. To each his own, The Doors music is tremendous 👍

@peterrex8191

Ай бұрын

@@televinv8062 there is an interview from 1969 or 70 you can look it up..and Morrison is asked straight out “why are the Doors the band people love to hate.” They were not a concert draw I. 70 as all their concerts were canceled after Miami…also an interview with Morrison as he discussed “hippies” he did not identify as one..in which he explains that the generation was what it was because of how much wealth they had…or privilege…it’s available for a listen.

They are still behind it

Dave McGowan RIP

@user-xr2lv4ll6j

Ай бұрын

I didn't know he died. Thats a great book he wrote.

@gayrobinson7561

Ай бұрын

​@@user-xr2lv4ll6j😊

The Will Ferrell movie she's thinking of is Zoolander.

Yes it’s true. I knew a guy who was involved first hand with it and he confirmed everything. ( I know this sounds like bs but it’s true) it broke my heart since I’m a huge music fan. Don’t meet your heroes

Amont of times joe says crazy conspiracy theories right after saying the CIA these days is crazy

Eddie Bravoooo look into it

Manson as well was in “ Boys Town” when I think he was 12-13.

Some of jolly West patients include. Jack Ruby. Whitey Bulger. Sirhan sirhan. Charles Manson And Timothy McVeigh. Do any of these names sound familiar.

If so, then they should return to work on music again 😂

@MADPoltergeist

Ай бұрын

They didn’t “make” the music. They promoted it. Just like they are promoting drill rap rn as a way to villainize and provoke young people into committing acts of violence, which they will use as they did in the 60’s to claw back more power from the people.

@televinv8062

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Jim Morrison’s dad basically started Vietnam. Look it up!!! I have MR MOJO RISIN tattooed on my arm. Anagrams are lit.

Jim's dad was not happy about his son becoming a rock star and was very discouraging towards his life choices. This theory is really stupid.

@deeceestackowicz7856

Ай бұрын

Of course he was unhappy with Jim's choice. How would the narrative fit otherwise?

@mr.ford-man4481

Ай бұрын

@@deeceestackowicz7856 It doesn't fit. Just a bunch of pothead nonsense.

I don't think the Jim Morrison thing makes sense.. despite what most people seem to think, he only dabbled in hallucinogens, and was mostly just a raging alcoholic. The music is really unique and stands on its own. No CIA push necessary

@steratorefriends6596

Ай бұрын

@@Natty1620 of course

@all_invite_0hm

Ай бұрын

He BECAME a raging alcoholic... He certainly did his fair share of hallucinogens.

@steratorefriends6596

Ай бұрын

@@all_invite_0hm I'm aware. But he wasn't the massive acid head people make him out to be. He did everything put in front of him. The only consistency being alcohol

Wow what a coincidence! Jolly West's other famous patient was Jack Ruby!

People need to read about the Tavistock Institute....they invented the Beatles

@marklewen9384

Ай бұрын

The CIA invented the FAKE Charles Manson family...

@gayrobinson7561

Ай бұрын

Correct on Tavistock all controlled. Creepy boys! 😊

@gayrobinson7561

Ай бұрын

And that's Paul's twin. 😊

@dandee6331

Ай бұрын

@gayrobinson7561 very possible.

Marleys Dad was Mi5 pretending to be overseeing a farm in Jamaica.

@Godshonestruth

Ай бұрын

Marleys dad was Jewish

Uncle Fester showing how unsmart he is! 😂😂😂😂 😲 😲 😲 😲

What was the documentary called?

They had this place in hollywood, old cia/army place which came recording studio for hippi music after... I don't remember that place name damn!!

Look into Courtney Love and her dad. She had a lot to do with most of major stars on the grunge scene and drug distribution to them. Pretty fucked up. Seems to be the same ol playbook.

pretending the podcaster space is totally different

@michaelstarmer7760

Ай бұрын

@@Natty1620 Not necessarily created, but perhaps compromised at some point. Andrew Bustamente is a spook and even lays this out in several podcast episodes

The CIA made some damn good music.

Idc. Morrison Hotel is top notch.

Reminds me of TTSA type thinking. Entertainment as a tool.

Bob Dylan too. I have no sources.

the title💀

The lyrics the killer awoke before dawn and put his boots on.. makes more sense now.😮

Just a thought, follow up on the BlackRock influence on ALL music after the 50's and 60's, some of the 70's .also, check out the influence in the movie industry, interesting shit.

Hey Joe! No cohencidence I just finished Robbie Krieger's book "Set the night on fire" - Living, dying & playing guitar with the Doors - ... It's a page-turner! Also worth checking: The Doors by The Doors - Ben Fong-Toress compiled the ultimate "coffee table book" on Jim. We love Jim F O R E V E R! DOORS music will never die!☮🕊

Like Jackson pollack

All The Doors songs were allegedly written by Jim Morrison before The Doors were formed, even though Jim Morrison was not a musician. And their music wasn't actually recorded by them apparently. Seems "The Band" played the tracks in the studio. Basically it seems everything about The Doors was manufactured

@televinv8062

Ай бұрын

No...Robbie Krieger wrote the lyrics AND the music for Light my Fire, their biggest hit. Robbie and the others had a hand in MANY of their deeper cuts too.

“I am the lizard king, I can do anything” Morrison was the ultimate badass!

@putitback4789

Ай бұрын

Slither King

There was a military base at the top of lookout mountain which is said where the lsd was produced

He was an Admiral

The book is Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon. Fun fact, Jim Morrison and Frank Zappas wife went to the same naval kindergarten. Rolling Stone even reported on how when they were children, Zappas wife hit Morrison in the head with a hammer. Years later they were practically neighbors in the Canyon

Admirals are generals. The navy dosnt call that rank a general. They call that rank an admiral

William Joel or billy joel. song "we didn't start the fire 🔥.is about all the" CIA" convert influence in the world 🌎.. 6:51

Actually, Joe, a rear admiral in the Navy IS the equivalent of a Major General in the Army.

What’s the book ?

His dad was in Navy

Its like be has the same conversations with every host

A lot of allegedly what ifs to connect dots. What did the Doors do to control people.

In reality the CIA created Joe Rogan he was a struggling comedian barely making ends meet until the CIA offered him a chance to host a podcast .He is a disinformation specialist

@kil7016

Ай бұрын

Maybe, he’s know Alex Jones for a while who also has suspicions. Also his shift from liberal to conservative recently really changed some of my friends perspective too. That much power will probably operate under the control of a higher power

@Smokeyxz

Ай бұрын

The problem is liberal doesn’t mean what is used too now a days.

1:10 the U.S. Navy has no “general”. Rear Admiral is the equivalent to a Brigadier General in every other branch of the military. So he is a “general” technically.

Look into it "wrecking crew". They were the investment team's musicians and producers

CIA- “look for a while at the China sunflower”

lol. Joe Rogan and this podcast was created by the CIA

The Manufactured Invention of the Beatles, Stones, Grateful Dead and the Birth of Rock n’ Roll by the Tavistock Institute

You lost me at Eddie Bravo! Mr. Tinfoil Hat himself! 😂

@danielfox3003

Ай бұрын

Totally, that guy shouldn’t smoke weed and surf the innerwebs.

@amanda1500

Ай бұрын

Listen to some of David McGowan interviews. He wrote the book Weird Scenes Inside Laurel Canyon.

The Netflix documentary series “American conspiracy” shows a ton of crazy stuff still going on.

@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI

Ай бұрын

What episodes do you recommend

The Nickelodeon guy made slime cool, now Youngthug is the spokesperson.

I've heard this before, apparently the Beatles and rolling stones were promoted by the cia because of their teenage culture sorta influence. Teenager was a word created by the cia to help this movement take off.

Yes

He was a navy admiral

They created rap music and still maintain it to this day

looking at how hard they work tells you just how special you are. They fear our collective power of intent.

Yes.

Winds of change apparently was a CIA operative

The Manson thing has gone from a conspiracy theory to fact on Joe's show.

This is what the term "industry plant" comes from. We are so far in the future, they figured out how to manipulate everyone through everything at this point, including music such as this topic.......🤯

“This is really stretching it” Yea it’s stretching it to say that for some wierd reason everything that is blue is totally untouched for example cars that are melted into pavement right next to blue plastic umbrellas. Entire parking lots of cars melted and the only cars that aren’t are blue. So conspiratorial to think that the same police chief that was chief in Las Vegas during the shooting, became chief right before this happened, and then the police blocked off the only road out of town. SO SO CONSPIRATORIAL!!! We are all so crazy guys it’s just an enormous coincidence

That would be like the one good thing they did if so

@notyouraveragegoldenpotato

Ай бұрын

OR- they WERE experimenting with psychedelics for mind control truth serum etc, and it was part of using the population as lab rats to test their work on a large scale. Almost feel like that happened not too long ago as well🤔

There’s a story that the CIA worked with the Scorpions and created the song “Winds of Change” during the fall of the Soviet Union???

@brianhopson2072

Ай бұрын

I was alive at that time. Winds of Change was dedicated to the fall of the Berlin Wall, but I think Small World was already released as it was basically a single.

Jim was incredibly well read. That's what made him. Not some CIA shite.

Thinking anyone in the CIA has even an ounce of musical talent is your first mistake

@user-hl1nn9mw8k

Ай бұрын

CIA never gave a shit bout rock n roll. Most people over 25 thought the beatles were a joke. In hindsight we're so cynical that we can't believe that music in the 60s was so pure and good, so we invent garbage conspiracy theories.

Simple answer yes they did do all of that

Joe smashing that square block to fit in the round hole, lol. It would be like saying the Kaiser deliberately started WW1 just to create the depression in the US in the 20's, two things can happen without them necessarily being related with cause and deliberate effect.

Great documentary on this topic "Drugs used as weapons against us: cia's targeting of musicians and activists"