I wish that pad on Joe’s head was centered

@menikmati789

3 жыл бұрын

WA it’s back, and to the left

@travisrowe7697

3 жыл бұрын

Damn you.

@billmoran3219

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like one of the guys on men on film... three finger snap.

@62biggsy

3 жыл бұрын

OCD much?

@Senninha1960

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so OCD I have to look away in disgust

Even out here in Australia, both my Dad and Grandad said JFK's assassination sent a shiver down their spines, not just because of the shocking public murder, but also because as outsiders looking in, it was clear to them this was a highly orchestrated event, they never believed Oswald getting off all of those "perfect" shots. Grandad led heavy machine gun battalion in WW2 in Middle East, and Dad served reconnaissance in Vietnam, so I naturally listened when they spoke on these matters.

@lindagiovannazambanini6218

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone (Oz, EU, Canada) thinks it was a coup d'etat, except for the here in the US, where the MSM and govt' keep feeding us the same line of propaganda, coverup, and lies they fed us in '63!

@SnowBase

2 жыл бұрын

Show both them this, this is the missing part they never seen. Type this guys name in and it still doesn't come up. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2ysyrqMcb2wn8o.html

@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech

Жыл бұрын

And yet the same forces are getting your country to fight China in the future. As long as the war isn't on US soil. These guys in the US government will always push for more war. They don't care about nukes. They are willing to play crazy games to win if they killed the president, got away with it and stayed in power. They have never got any consequence from their actions.

@philsurtees

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, so there are idiots in Australia too. Why wouldn't a sharpshooter be able to get of those shots, when it has been replicated numerous times?

@user-qd6zn6wr9b

Жыл бұрын

@@philsurtees you can disagree without being a prick

You know they are telling the truth when KZread has to put the “fact check” on the video

@MP-tj5xv

2 жыл бұрын

From Wikipedia, nonetheless.

@Bramslootmans

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have that sign haha

@ralphholiman7401

2 жыл бұрын

Citing Wikipedia is like saying, “We fact checked this story with our crazy neighbor down the street who said this is bullshtt”.

@octavianbalenciaga6799

2 жыл бұрын

It's not Wikipedia, you guys, it's Britannica

@ralphholiman7401

2 жыл бұрын

@@octavianbalenciaga6799 , even so. I was an FBI agent assigned to the Dallas office in the 80’s and I would estimate that more than half of the agents assigned there at the time thought the Warren Report was BS. I used to drive home on JFK’s assassination route on Elm St. every day, right past the grassy knoll. It was hard not to think about it every once in a while.

Carlos “Gunny” Hathcock, sniper (USMC), the Marine Corps’ premier sniper with 93 confirmed kills including history’s longest single kill-shot of 2,500 meters, nominated for the Congressional Medal of Honor for action in Vietnam, former chief instructor of the USMC Sniper’s School, at Quantico, Virginia. (Note: Gunny Hathcock proved the impossibility of the lone-nutter scenario during tests he personally conducted at Quantico, Hathcock's own words... "Let me tell you what we did at Quantico. We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did".

@tacticalmattfoley

2 жыл бұрын

Oswald literally missed a general sitting by a window at his desk and we are lead to believe he hit a moving target from a sixth floor window three times? NO WAY. Doesn't jive. This isn't talked about enough. The Carcano rifle is a giant POS, too.

@johndeagle4389

2 жыл бұрын

Hathcock's shot was not the longest kill shot and it was from 2500 yards not 2500 meters. Oswald's shot to JFK's head was only 88 yards.

@bunkshaner22

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been to Dallas. Within seconds you can tell the angles are wrong.

@johndeagle4389

2 жыл бұрын

@@bunkshaner22 There is no place to hide for a grassy knoll shooter. No credible witness saw a gunman behind the stockade fence.

@johndeagle4389

2 жыл бұрын

@@bunkshaner22 Marilyn kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJyatsVuo6ndadY.html

I'm glad to see somebody is keeping JFK's murder in the public domain. We owe it to our children to keep this story alive.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIiex7dufaq5e9Y.html A related list: kzread.info/head/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.

@bradcrane4706

3 жыл бұрын

I think we’ve given out children enough nonsense to worry about. How about we teach them to do their taxes instead

@hanc37

3 жыл бұрын

I believe George Bush Sr. and Henry Kissinger was in involved. We will never know the truth until that evil bastard is gone.

@oliverrodriguez8541

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradcrane4706 I learned the hard way when I was young making almost $6k -8k month with commission and majority time I was claiming exempt and getting my fat bonuses. I remember before I claimed exempt I would let them tax me it was 30% of my pay check so if I made $5k they take out $1500 like wtf but I claimed exempt I got all my money but I got fucked at the end I paid over $10l in taxes

@bradcrane4706

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliverrodriguez8541 that’s a long paragraph man right on

I feel like Oliver Stone has had this conversation every day for 29 years and just isn't feeling it anymore

@tomallen5837

3 жыл бұрын

Well he certainly isn't feeling Joe Rogan's claim as to what a good shot is. Unfortunately Joe you don't have clout just because you're "a hunter". I think Mr. Stone did a good job of deflecting at a time when Joe was most passionate.

@encyclopediaamericana7234

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂faaaak......

@broganlund1268

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomallen5837 wasn't Oliver in Nam?

@tomallen5837

3 жыл бұрын

@@broganlund1268 yup

@MistaTofMaine

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomallen5837 Rogan's version of hunting is going with a guide, and he uses top notch gear. Hard to take him serious with some things.

Great to have Oliver Stone on the podcast and Joe does 70% of the talking.

@ashtonjames1244

Жыл бұрын

What’s the podcast name?

@jpete3027666

Жыл бұрын

I really cannot stand Joe, he just has amazing guests and great topics so I only care to listen to his guests so this is frustrating to me as well when he opens his mouth at all.

@rinkagamine1621

Жыл бұрын

Came here to find this comment 😂 what’s the point in having special guests if you’re gonna talk over them😅

@flipper1559

11 ай бұрын

@@jpete3027666I’m in the same boat. Though I will say not every guest is a winner but when he brings a good one on he talks over them for 80% of the episode.

@jpete3027666

11 ай бұрын

@@flipper1559 yep!

Joe PLEEEEZE let your Guest speak!

@terrenceliburd8655

20 сағат бұрын

I agree but I think Joe has some points that Mr. Stone might not talk about.

The book that pulls it all together is "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why it Matters". Incredibly well-researched.

@Cipher_X_x

3 жыл бұрын

CA mafia, cuba, CIA were all involved, Read the book Plausible Denial by Mark Lane, he won a court case by proving Howard Hunt managed the hit. Lane also had been head of House Committee of Assassinations

@ModernPlague

3 жыл бұрын

That book contains a very telling, off-hand comment made by Allen Dulles (to a writer who was helping him), spoken with contempt: "That little Kennedy---he thought he was a god."

@ModernPlague

3 жыл бұрын

@Anakin - Seating arrangement (boosted seat) doesn't explain a nearly pristine bullet suddenly appearing on the gurney. And nice try with the old "mentally ill conspiracy retards" name-calling routine, but that trick doesn't work any more.

@cabforwardooo9983

3 жыл бұрын

@Anakin You left out Bigfoot.

@Cipher_X_x

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin lol that’s an interesting take...personally I can understand your point if someone is overly engrossed in conspiracy theories constantly, that will drive people mad....but this was a major situation, so if people want to dig into researching and discussing it, why do you care? You realize humans are social creatures? We like to communicate about big and small issues...and you’re on the same thread lol

Is it just me or does Oliver have a calming voice

@johnsorto6737

3 жыл бұрын

Soothing

@WrightlyDivided

3 жыл бұрын

Cute cat

@JohnnyCage333

3 жыл бұрын

Very much.

@bobthebear1246

3 жыл бұрын

Very. His voice is even more calming than Noam Chomsky's.

@gonzolapanne1387

3 жыл бұрын

Not just that, it's hypnotizing, I could listen to him talk about life all day.

I was an FBI agent, assigned to the Dallas office is the 80’s, (Bobby Gillam ” was the SAC, for my bona fides), and most of the agents didn’t even think Oswald acted alone.

@markdelgado8963

4 ай бұрын

Lee did act alone, innocent men are not silenced for knowing nothing. Lee fired two bullets, the first missed and the second went straight through JFK and Connely who was sitting inboard and lower than the President on a jumpseat. The third round was a Remington .223 frag round which exploded Kennedy's skull, instantly killing the 35th President of the United States. Oswald had a birds eye view from the sixth floor corner window, witnessed the origin of the third bullet. Lee had to be silenced.

@HarrisonHollers

2 ай бұрын

On the book depository, theres a plaque on the building and they even reference the conspiracy to it. Wild!

@tomscott3

Ай бұрын

Based on my research, it is unlikely Oswald acted at all. Very Best Regards, Tom Scott Author ● Speaker ● World's Leading Expert on the Corrupt U.S. Legal System _Our American Injustice System_ _Stack the Legal Odds in Your Favor_

@erniecortes5453

Ай бұрын

did he even fired a rifle

@insertnamehere313

26 күн бұрын

​@@erniecortes5453 No sir. Oswald passed the nitrate test on his face neck..no way he fired 3 shots with a bolt action and came out clean like that.

Great Joe Rogan interview and show again! Love his enthusiasm and sincere interest in finding the truth :)

I don’t know what I am going to do when Joe goes to Spotify and I can’t read the comments on the vids 🤷🏼‍♂️

@syrilbrooks7041

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he already started on there

@jamesevangelista6460

3 жыл бұрын

JRE clips will still be here

@MertSu66

3 жыл бұрын

surely spotify video platform will have comment section. if theres no comm section and voting, it will fail anyway

@kamakazitv574

3 жыл бұрын

Joe if youre reading this its too late..

@Kube_Dog

3 жыл бұрын

I hope it fails. It would be fun to see it fail. Joe's about out of podcasting steam anyway. He's cashing in, then getting out.

Joe debating the JFK assassination with Oliver Stone is like trying to tell a baker about bread.

@dannylujan3619

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting baking!

@larrywheeler9917

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but he actually did try and debate stone.

@justincase4812

3 жыл бұрын

Not true when it's Stone who took liberties with "truths" and inserts them into the movie. Trouble is, people are then on the hook to research and find out what was true and what took liberties and is misinformation in the movie.

@larrywheeler9917

3 жыл бұрын

@@justincase4812 stone pretty much nailed it. The official version was never accepted. Stone just took the conclusion the majority of people felt . He made a great movie that pissed off the establishment .

@adampaape6894

3 жыл бұрын

Well said Sir...lol. Thinking the same thing...smh.

60 years and they still won’t release it all. WTF? Thank you Oliver tor keeping this alive.

@taylorprocker

2 жыл бұрын

Rumor has it that’s because Bush Sr. was named in some contexts as one of the “architects”. I’m probably spreading disinformation but, Bush’s CIA did it!

@adjuster57

2 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT!! We’re back to, “it’s Bush’s fault.”

@bluecollarlit

Жыл бұрын

December 24, 2022 They just released some more, under the Freedom of Information Act. It's still not all of it, apparently.

@bobclifton8021

6 ай бұрын

The fact that they keep refusing to release everything says a lot. Somebody has something to hide. They are probably stalling until everyone involved is dead.

Joe saying he can judge a person's character based on their reactions to conspiracy theories (in this case JFK's murder) is something I never thought of, but absolutely seems telling to me. It reveals someone's nature in response to something that isn't cut and dry. Not even so much the response, but rather the reasoning that brought them to their thoughts will apply to other situations. Almost want to call it a litmus test, except not so binary with a large grey area.

@darylfernandez2153

Жыл бұрын

A similar one for me is the question of whether a person thinks that Shakespeare (the villager from Stratford) wrote those plays.

@theoneandonly7019

Жыл бұрын

@@darylfernandez2153 but shakespeare actually did write those plays doofus

@darylfernandez2153

11 ай бұрын

@@theoneandonly7019 You're dumb. Go investigate.

@SovereignStatesman

11 ай бұрын

So Joe and Oliver wear the same-size foil hat.

@reginaldcampos5762

11 ай бұрын

​​@@darylfernandez2153eah, i saw that rabbit hole. Its not very believable in my eyes that he was a persona for a ghost writer. His name existed back then in the right areas. Also, dont call people dumb for disagreeing with you. Thats asinine, even if he insulted you first.

How is Joe thinking he knows more about this than Oliver Stone

@lucasoheyze4597

3 жыл бұрын

Oliver Stone swallowed Jim Garrison's bullshit, so he doesn't know that much.

@jules151968

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasoheyze4597 The small hat's and American Zionists killed Kennedy.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIiex7dufaq5e9Y.html A related list: kzread.info/head/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasoheyze4597 You're a damn fool if you think Garrison was bullshitting and dont beleive that main stream depiction of the trial rom back in the day, Garrison sued them amd won over that

@larrywheeler9917

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasoheyze4597 you choked on j Edgar Hoover's bullshit . Lol

JFK single handedly prevented nuclear war. He was a hero on the battlefield and in the Oval office. He was a great great man. He did NOT deserve to die like that. RIP Mr President

@philsurtees

Жыл бұрын

Singlehandedly??? Um ... no!

@anthonycampos8057

Жыл бұрын

@@philsurtees he's the president. His call, so......yeah

@MaloPiloto

Жыл бұрын

So true. Well said.

@mulderscully2054

11 ай бұрын

Not single-handedly. That is an extremely childish way to look at it. He had a team that understood and fought for him and gave him the solutions to eventually go that route. He wavered back and forth many times. His leadership was huge, but single-handedly? No.

@anthonycampos8057

11 ай бұрын

@@mulderscully2054 who's the president? Who makes the call? Yes. Single-handedly

I didn't really know a lot about Oliver Stone before watching this other than he's a fabulous film director, but Jfc, my guys a national treasure. A real seeker of the truth.

@chestrockwell6807

Жыл бұрын

a seeker of the truth? Oliver Stone is a pathological liar

@donsutherland9299

6 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan = a "smart" guy for idiots

The fact that oliver stone is a nam vet has always helped me hold truth to some of the things hes said and done...great film maker/historian

@shawnpistey4874

2 жыл бұрын

The guy loves Castro and every other communist dictator- for a fact- he supporters every anti- US government

@jameslindsay9272

Жыл бұрын

Yeah no soldier could ever be wrong or crazy

@donsutherland9299

6 ай бұрын

So Nam Vets can NOT be completely delusional? Wow, learn something new every day

@vhufeosqap

2 ай бұрын

If anything, fighting in a war that was somewhat and became more unpopular as it went along doesn’t really help that case. Especially once documents showing the government had been selling the people an overly Rodney picture and they were privately doubtful they they could win in Vietnam, as they were fighting it. Being disillusioned and cynical, or at least having good reason to doubtful of government use of military power doesn’t mean it doesn’t too far. If someone has decided, or has the genuine feeling that it’s all a lie(the war) then everything else is easy to cast doubt on… even when the telling of the JFK story goes beyond critical of government and into being driven by things other than fact….

Joe "I've shot guns before" Rogan

@mpbh6672

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Rogan with 0 military experience is arguing with Stone...a Vietnam combat vet.

@raf44bravo

3 жыл бұрын

Joe was getting a little worked up on his beliefs. Mr Stone keeping his demeanor calm and not letting his beliefs get infront of him well done Mr. Stone. Joe is a measured guy in most situations but when his beliefs get the best of him his voice gets louder and he gets determined to be right.

@razkable

3 жыл бұрын

bow rogan ...he thinks a cross bow is the same as a sniping rifle lol

@balancedactguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@mpbh6672 You don;'t have to be in the Military to know about guns, ammo, etc.

@dannylujan3619

3 жыл бұрын

Joe ,has plenty of experience with weapons! Be sides that on record he has the most powerful kick ,pound pressure!

I love how Stone literally just finished a documentary on the JFK assassination yet Joe still corrects him. Settle down bro.

@patsayjack402

3 жыл бұрын

@Irving Ceron He's not but he's done considerably more research than Joe and has a substantially more qualified opinion on the subject. However, Joe's skepticism is one of his best traits.

@WestCoastAce27

3 жыл бұрын

John Hammersmith but Joe forgot more about shooting and guns while taking his last dump than liberal Stone will ever know.

@millcum

3 жыл бұрын

Mark S decorated combat veteran, liberal Stone?😏

@beausacra

3 жыл бұрын

Mark S joe acts like he’s been hunting his whole life. He’s only been doing it these last few years. Phony wannabe joe

@bravo4104

3 жыл бұрын

Because the dude has done jack shit for research "No marksman in the world could've made that shot" kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZyhu5iBnbWaltY.html With ONE search. Two guys hit 2/3 shots, and one hit 3/3 perfectly.

While I appreciate JR keeping this discussion in the public domain here, watching him talk to Stone about the JFK assassination is a bit amusing. He seems like a student in class talking to a veteran teacher about something the guy's taught hundreds of times. Stone is game but it's easy to see he's being a bit polite as JR talks about guns.

@TruthDissident

11 ай бұрын

Except Oliver got many details wrong in his movie including the supposed magic bullet.

@stonedcoldstunna

9 ай бұрын

couldn’t disagree more, nothing hes done has proven accurate

@jimtruscott5670

6 ай бұрын

@rchuckins. Problem is Stone’s assassination film proved he knew and understood almost nothing about the assassination. It was a farce.

@PaulHenreid

6 ай бұрын

Like what? The Magic Bullet conspiracy theory has already been debunked. Even the federal government changed its official position from the lone gunman conspiracy theory to a theory that there was probably a conspiracy to assassinate.@@TruthDissident

Joe i love your podcasts, it's your true calling. Keep doing it.

Why didn't Joe go this hard when he had the CIA guy on saying it wasn't that big of a mystery?

@ziakhan6060

3 жыл бұрын

good catch

@christracy6301

3 жыл бұрын

Josh my brother, I feel ya man. Check out the two videos I posted above and read the Warren Report regarding the so called "magic bullet." Dopey Joe and Oliver are so misguided and on the fringe of tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist peeps. Peace! See the videos where Joe also believed in BigFoot and questioned the moon landing.

@holliecrawford882

3 жыл бұрын

Cause joe is bought... takes no genius too sus

@Phelps-1247

3 жыл бұрын

hes a wet wipe, thats why

@trev6783

3 жыл бұрын

I caught this too.. I've defended Rogan from other commenters who always says he changes his perspective based on his guest.. Then the CIA agent video came out and I was like.. Damn he does do that crap.

joe gets extremely lively when talking about this

@danc3693

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed the same. I tend to agree with what he said about ballistics and the absurdity of an undamaged bullet showing up on the gurney.

@holliecrawford882

3 жыл бұрын

Joe isn’t going too say shit about anything that will effect his own stuff and stats now is he...

@bvker-4368

3 жыл бұрын

He gets visibly excited every time he talks about the JFK assassination on the podcast. He’s pretty knowledgeable on it and seems passionate whenever he talks about it for sure

@mariovega7198

3 жыл бұрын

It’s just so intriguing

@vladimirbogosavljevic8039

3 жыл бұрын

@@bvker-4368 ofc bro ... that happened in your country ... everyone should be excited bcs that further implicate allot of other things ...

I visited Dealy Plaza in Dallas last weekend, 12-11-23. Something I've always wanted to do since the 1st time I saw the Zapruder film in 1981. I never believed Ozwald pulled that off because I grew up shooting guns and know a little about how an object moves when shot. It's very eerie standing on the concrete platform where Zapruder and his secretary did. After seeing it in person, it's crazy how close Z was to the JFK! Looks way further on film. If you ever visit Dealy Plaza, it's plain to see where the head shot came from.

A big question that never gets asked is why Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald. Everybody writes it off as him being emotionally driven because he loved Kennedy, but let's be real, Lee Harvey Oswald being able to talk about what happened would have blown everyone involved out of the water.

@bobbym8974

10 ай бұрын

Yea you mean jack Rubinstein. Read Michael Collins pipper on his take of the perpetrator of assassination

@ABAYBAZ

6 ай бұрын

It’s because they controlled the information that was released. The CIA is the shadow government.

@vhufeosqap

2 ай бұрын

So you dismiss the comments of those around him very often if what type of person he was simply by saying “buts be real”. The people who knew ruby were being real. Ruby hung around that police station often, they knew him. He was a highly emotional man. He was seen crying in public and made many emotional phone calls after the assassination. “Let’s be real” should mean go where the evidence leads, not let’s make a good story

Allen Dulles was on fire as the head of the CIA along with his brother, John Foster, who was Secretary of State at the SAME time. Both dudes began their careers as corporate lawyers at Sullivan & Cromwell and continued protecting those clients’ international interests throughout their time in government. 1953 on behalf of United Fruit Company and 1954 in Iran on behalf of what is now know as BP. Both democratically elected leaders of those countries wanted to nationalize the natural resources of those countries to benefit their citizens. The CIA protected corporate interests instead. These are only 2 of many examples. When they tried to do the same thing in Cuba JFK refused to call in the military to support the fledgling coup. It was the first failure on the part of the CIA and a major blow to Dulles’ reputation. JFK fired Dulles which in hindsight was not a very smart move considering the dude had spent the past decade developing the skill and network to assassinate political opponents and overthrow governments. Obviously there’s quite a bit more to the story but this is a good starting point for anyone wanting to understand where we are today politically and how we got here.

@derekkelley7490

3 жыл бұрын

I don't agree, the air cover aspect of The Bay of Pigs invasion was a blunder. Kennedy ok'd the Bay of Pigs, as long as there was plausible denial(of the mission). It failed! Hence the 'fire-ing' of Allen Dulles. Everything above that is correct. Before making the "BAD CAPITOLIST" case. Think about what kind of danger Communist-Cuba posed. Missle Crisis?

@indydude3367

3 жыл бұрын

Good book about this called 'Devil's Chessboard'.

@mikegrady5669

3 жыл бұрын

Insightful. Never knew that

@Zfahidy1066

3 жыл бұрын

Nationalizing industry never benefits private citizens, it only increases the size and power of the state.

@lucasgrey9794

3 жыл бұрын

There is also the small matter of JFK wanting to: inspect the Dimona reactor in Israel, supporting Algerian independence, registering AIPAC under FARA, giving Palestinians the right of return and get closer to Gamal Nasser in Egypt. All of this changed AFTER he was murdered.

I love Oliver Stone, he's one of the greatest directors ever in my opinion. It's a shame he was blacklisted by hollywood over a bunch of bull.

@Hwella555

3 жыл бұрын

What happened there?

@Kube_Dog

3 жыл бұрын

What did he do? Jerk off on a bald dude's head?

@fulavision

3 жыл бұрын

Why was he blackballed?

@jontraz5993

3 жыл бұрын

I think something about a movie he made in Russia? Correct me if wrong, but I do believe Stone spoke some serious truth to power

@Biring1

3 жыл бұрын

Stone has never been on the good side of the studio system. Fantastic filmmaker.

"The bullet hitting those two people and finding it's way onto the gurney, magically, with very little distortion in the bullet at all, is straight up HORSESHIT"

@Rayburn58

2 жыл бұрын

What is your knowledge of ballistics? your knowledge of ballistics is probably on the same level as joe rogan.

@81overon

2 жыл бұрын

Tash - Six doctors and an FBI weapons expert involved in this case agree with you.

The third shot came from the front. The Zapruder film proved same.

And people think the government wouldn't do 9/11 😂

@Kube_Dog

3 жыл бұрын

That's right.

@LarsBreuning

3 жыл бұрын

Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.

@vickcelino326

3 жыл бұрын

@Taylor Lemoine if they can kill a president.. And its an US president. Then what makes you so hard to believe 9/11 was inside job? Or are you just those guys who would believe everything the media tells you?

@Continentofdigitalandspiritual

3 жыл бұрын

Or ride out coronavirus for election benefit

@danielmor4073

3 жыл бұрын

Taylor Lemoine they’re still milking oil from 9/11 🤣.

Joe "I have a buddy for every little possible thing" Rogan

@mannazee

3 жыл бұрын

Joe “My Buddy” Rogan

@artothewanderer9517

3 жыл бұрын

@chuck bass. Yeah, that’s what happens when you’re well like. You have a lot of friends in different places. 👍🏼

@foran43

3 жыл бұрын

@@artothewanderer9517 you're well like?

@samus598

3 жыл бұрын

Joe "I have a buddy who killed Kennedy and he is named Spotify" Rogan

@michaelinelegant1289

3 жыл бұрын

@William Hoover it's just a joke

1:30 Joe Rogan sounding exactly like my uncle at thanksgiving here like word for word

Kennedy loved Cuba. I wish we had a president like him now. He was a TRUE democrat and I'm a republican

@stevenobrien557

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@vhufeosqap

2 ай бұрын

Huh?

"they've killed my husband" - Jackie O.

@charlotte7568

3 жыл бұрын

Doe eyed Jackie O ..... 🙄

@Jason.cbr1000rr

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlotte7568 her eyes were too wide apart ...

@innit1407

2 жыл бұрын

If you read her lips, she says, FFS John, your brains match my coat!!

@krystofodehnal9448

2 жыл бұрын

@@innit1407 Bro...

@farmerfishdogg486

2 жыл бұрын

Saw an interview with the governor who was shot in the seat in front of him and he said Jackie said "his brains are in my hands"

One of the greatest injustices ever carried out in this country.

@navyguyinva

3 жыл бұрын

Only after 9/11 👀

@Rayburn58

3 жыл бұрын

The greatest injustice because millions of Americans believe a conspiracy when there is not one shred of hard evidence to support a conspiracy. Oswald acted alone and millions of Americans will never believe it because of frauds like oliver stone that perpetrate lies and ignore all the hard evidence.

@harbingerofsalt

3 жыл бұрын

All the "hard evidence" provided by the prime suspect in the crime: the government itself. "We investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong." Whoever believes that hard evidence cen exist in this case after the Dallas PD, Secret Service, FBI, CIA and other officials actively destroyed the crime scene with their utter stupidity and incompetence is a bonafide moron.

@Rayburn58

3 жыл бұрын

@@harbingerofsalt Read what you wrote here. It makes no sense, and your ability to communicate your thoughts is terrible. It's totally unclear what you are trying to say. What does the word "cen" mean? What evidence do you have that the FBI, CIA destroyed the crime scene? It was Dallas PD that was at crime scene and it was not destroyed by anyone.

@harbingerofsalt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rayburn58 lol you know damn well it was a typo and I meant to say "can". Tell me I make no sense and can't communicate and that's the one example you can come up with. Pathetic

The time between the second and third shot could not have been done with a bolt action rifle.

@bbb462cid

2 жыл бұрын

4.9 seconds for the time between 2nd and 3rd shot? Based on Zapruder of course. What's so hard to beleive about that? The Brits used to train for a 'mad minute' of accurate fire from a bolt action service rifle, over 100 years ago. A rate of fire (also hitting the target of course) with an average of less than two seconds between shots was not out of the question. 300 yard range. Tests were done at the time after the assasination using a similar rifle as Oswald's and the results showed it could be done, many of the shooters taking less than 6 seconds total to fire three rounds. Jamming was encoutnered by the tests but that doesn;t mean Oswald's rifle jammed. Could _Oswald_ have done it? Open for a lot of debate. He wasn't a world-calss marksman. But could he do it fast? Sure why not. Yes, Hathcock said it couldn't be done. He meant couldn't be done while hitting the target, demonstrably and as a matter of record that rate of fire can be had with a bolt action. You can see the videos on youtube lol. But what if what Oswald hit didn't matter? An lot has been said about his terrible first shot. Well. A first shot miss actually isn't uncommon among target shooters who make the mistake of taking the first shot with a nice clean bore. You actually want the barrel slightly fouled. But what if Oswald and his crappy Carcano did what you'd expect and miss his target every time? Then the question about rate of fire becomes easy: yes he could fire it that fast. Since it is, I hope, your opinion that Oswald certainly did not act alone, this supports the idea that the fatal shots came from someplace else. Where did Oswald's bullets go? Can't say. But it's easy for me to accept he missed.

@bgarrison67

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbb462cid 3 reports. 1- pause and then 2-3 on top of each other. Amost simultaneously. That Carcano rifle has a long bolt throw making that sequence of fire impossible. Don't be a schill.

@bbb462cid

2 жыл бұрын

​@@bgarrison67 LOL, a 'shill' burn 30 seconds, and read my whole comment numbnuts.

@allanroche8053

2 ай бұрын

There was a documentary back in early 90s or late 80s were they cover all the questionable facts they had a skilled rifleman not snipper perform the three shots hit all three with a 1/2 second to spare I believe he used the same rifle

@harryricochet8134

Ай бұрын

@@allanroche8053 Shots 2 and 3 are almost on top of each other, nobody can recycle a bolt, reprop and aim accurately that quickly.

Joe got so worked up about the magic bullet theory, even his little "oohh" at 2:35 sounded angry 😂. And then contrast it with how Oliver Stone is speaking.

@randyharris3175

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how angry he would get if he was proven wrong?which he is

Hate how one person killed Oswald before he could say anything....

@milkpatty7984

3 жыл бұрын

And then that guy died after going to prison which tied up all the loose ends

@pts5217

3 жыл бұрын

Milk Patty he died of cancer years later

@hazeofthegreensmoke505

3 жыл бұрын

Ruby had MK Ultra connections, saw that on another JRE

@reinforcedpenisstem

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how JFK felt.

@nickbisson8243

3 жыл бұрын

@@reinforcedpenisstem made him lose his mind

Even Oliver Stone is like, "Alriiiight, this guy's just a lil bit nutty."

@roberttheodorson1770

3 жыл бұрын

Joe trying to correct Stone on JFK assassination facts is cringey AF.

@Peppersfirst

3 жыл бұрын

@@roberttheodorson1770 Super cringey. I was so ready for Joe to stop saying the shot was possible. I felt like Oliver was like, "This guy has no idea what he's talking about"

@justgivemethetruth

3 жыл бұрын

@@Peppersfirst I know what Rogan meant, luck happens, or luck can happen. But that doesn't mean it did, and when we look at most other things in the universe we accept probabilistic logic. The weird thing is how the other bullets were solid, but the last kill shot that appeared to come from the front was a fragmenting bullet. Also, we have to assume that mixed in with all the honest "conspiracy theorists" who honestly want to solve this or add to the thinking on the case, there are undoubtedly agents of whatever entity posting ideas, facts and fake evidence to throw everyone off.

@robb3176

3 жыл бұрын

@@justgivemethetruth Oswald was the only killer, people just like to imagine a conspiracy because Kennedy was "important" and shouldn't have been killed by a narcissistic wingnut. The bullet evidence is clear that the "magic bullet" only hit soft tissue and thus the deformation of the bullet was consistent with the end appearance of the bullet. The bullets for the rifle Oswald used varied in quality so that some fragmented and others didn't.

@justgivemethetruth

3 жыл бұрын

@@robb3176 My opinion differs

Exceptional interview. Both guys, well done!!

Imagine if the Zapuder film never happened. We'd think Oswald did it alone.

@chestrockwell6807

Жыл бұрын

Oswald did do it alone

@ABAYBAZ

6 ай бұрын

Physically, Oswald did it alone. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a participant of MKULTRA.

@stewgotz1

5 ай бұрын

OJ did it

All those events are as clear to me today as when they happened. Even as a ten year old i knew oswald was just what he said he was a patsy or fall guy.

Oliver Stone has made some really great films, and JFK was one of them.

@TheJPSouza

2 жыл бұрын

Platoon, Born on the Fourth of July and JFK are his best films, in my opinion

@GirlFriday68

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJPSouza Wall Street really good, and prescient for what would happen to this country with the hedge funders and big banks, "greed is good".. could be this country's motto today

Good interview 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

The price on anyone's head isn't that much if they're interfering with business as usual... People be so naïve about the business world

Oliver Stone is one of the best directors and script writers around. Great story teller!

@karltodd

Жыл бұрын

Undeniably!

@johnstrawb3521

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame he fell apart with Natural Born Killers. Simply unwatchable junk, horribly miscast.

@JeffCrow1313

Жыл бұрын

get real, Stone is trash.

There's only one thing worst than people asleep... people "pretending" to be asleep... 🤦🏻‍♂️

@philwright2480

3 жыл бұрын

*worse*

@nikko.lottsahcocc6917

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by this? is “asleep” supposed to be the opposite of “woke” ... cuz nowadays ppl who claim to be woke seem to be the most in need of a long nap...

@Lgg130

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i used to do that when my parents came up to check on me when i was a kid and now i feel horrible

@kennethprice8710

3 жыл бұрын

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@redpilledcovfefe

3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Joe I presume.

"The Devil's Chessboard." (David Talbot) Makes perfect twisted sense. Kudos to Mr.'s Rogan and Stone.

There is an old interview of witness Lee Bowers and a recent interview with journalist Robert McNeil who was there. Both describe the spacing of the THREE shots EXACTLY the same way. The 2nd and 3rd were almost right on top of each other. There was no way the 2nd and 3rd shots came from the same bolt action rifle and it's pretty unlikely that the 1st and 2nd shots did.

@nigelliam153

2 жыл бұрын

The latest audio analysis shows there was at least one high velocity and one low velocity rifle and probably 3 rifles.

@keimo2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@nigelliam153 Does it mean that Oswald changed gun between shots?

@nigelliam153

2 жыл бұрын

@@keimo2007 it means there were 2 or 3 teams. Google the audi tapes at on point theres two simultaneous shots.

@formernavyspook

2 жыл бұрын

A Secret Service agent in the following car accidentally fired his M-16 as he was bringing the rifle up in response to the shots from behind, hitting JFK in the head, killing him...a 1 in a million, accidental shot from a Secret Service agent unfamiliar with the then, new M-16.

@keimo2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@formernavyspook lol

The thing that really weirded me out was that one of the officers in the book depository identified the weapon as a Mauser rifle. He was former sporting goods store owner and knew the model. His partner checked the barrel and indeed confirmed it was a German Mauser rifle. This was in their reporting. Somewhere between that and ‘what really happened’ it became an Italian Manliker Carcano rifle.

@garrybaldy327

3 жыл бұрын

It was always a Mannlicher Carcano. It was initially wrongly ID'd as a Mauser. Keep up, will you?

@tacticalmattfoley

2 жыл бұрын

Someone found a Mauser rife on top of the building. This is in Stone's new documentary. No one reported on this after the assassination.

@aaronz7056

2 жыл бұрын

@@tacticalmattfoley Dear God, that story came from demonstrable serial liar Roger Craig, who later changed his account so the roof rifle disappeared from his story and the Mannlicher transforms into a Mauser. Unbelievable that clown was given an ounce of crediblilty.

@tacticalmattfoley

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronz7056 I'm just repeating what was in Stone's new documentary. I will say this after having seen the "shooter's box" in the Book Depository Building: unless he was literally hanging out of the window, I just don't see how Oswald made that shot from there.

@aaronz7056

2 жыл бұрын

@@tacticalmattfoley He did it and witnesses (Brennan, Couch, etc.) plainly saw the rifle sticking out of the window. Do not trust Stone. He championed himself as a crusader for truth and justice for Kennedy while happily manufacturing a fake story that lets his murderer off the hook, slanders a lot of innocent people (eg, the cops who risked their lives to capture Oswald alive in the theater) as being co-conspirators to murder and treason, and packs more than 80 *demonstrable* lies into the narrative.

Anyone watched the tv series with James Franco? It’s great and well worth a watch 👍🏻

@johnr1740

3 жыл бұрын

Yes 11/22/63 was a great show,it left me wanting more episodes.

@johnulcer

3 жыл бұрын

Stephen King said while researching the book that he arrived at the conclusion that Oswalt acted alone, despite previously believing it was a cover-up. I'd like him to speak more on the topic of why his opinion changed and what evidence he looked at.

@McJerkins

3 жыл бұрын

He is on the newest release for Epsteen flight log. Look it up. Dude is fucked.

@McJerkins

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnulcer stephen king and franco are both on epsteen flight log. Democrats gonna blackmail.

@johnulcer

3 жыл бұрын

@@McJerkins Nah, that's a hoax apparently, although I'm sure you'll tell me why it's just the lizard people trying to cover up facts. Pretty sure they are listed in his "black book" which was basically just a rolodex of famous people. Trump is in it too. Epstein was very powerful and wealthy and probably attended many social functions over the years - it's not surprising that he'd trade business cards with celebs. I think the people who were actually on the flight logs (iirc, Kevin Spacey, Clinton, Woody Allen among others) have some explaining to do, but just because a celebrity made it into his rolodex doesn't mean shit.

I met Oliver twice in 1992 when he visited the bank I worked for and he struck me as a very humble honest man!

@FUnzzies1

7 ай бұрын

Psychopaths are like that

One of the few times when Joe should listen to his guest a tad more

Joe "I've shot guns so I'm a ballistics expert" Rogan

@The_Joker_

3 жыл бұрын

Lol he’s a gas man, he’s an expert at everything. Good old Joe.

@Teufelsnachbar667

3 жыл бұрын

Still a better expert than a kid behind a computer screen ;)

@MarvelousMusicmmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Teufelsnachbar667 irrelevant

@Teufelsnachbar667

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarvelousMusicmmusic relevant

@jimsteinway695

3 жыл бұрын

Hunters and shooters who train a lot know what bullets do. You see what happens when the slug hits the target and spins off. Or when the slug hits the ground. You don’t have to be a ballistics expert to know what happens to the slug. I shoot 2,3 times a month and I regularly see what happens to slugs on the range.

Olivers voice is so smoothing

always agreed with Ollie's take on the events back then

Sooo it's been 10 months... is this doc of Stone's completed? If so, what is the title so I can look for it?

Fun fact: the Warren Commission was filled with lawyers for the Crown Family, Meyer-Lansky Family, General Dynamics etc.

@ryannayrryan

3 жыл бұрын

Meyer Lansky? Where did you get that info? Eddie Bravo or Sam Tripoli?

@lucasgrey9794

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryannayrryan You can literally read the names of the Warren Commission and verify for yourself.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Allen Dulles was on it 😄 of course Meyer Lanky related people were, La Cosa Nostra has massive power. Hope your not trying to go all anti semite, youll never get close to getting down to the bottom of it Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIiex7dufaq5e9Y.html A related list: kzread.info/head/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Who? ________________________ Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States(chairman) (1891-1974) Richard Russell Jr. (D-Georgia), U.S. Senator, (1897-1971) John Sherman Cooper (R-Kentucky), U.S. Senator (1901-1991) Hale Boggs (D-Louisiana), U.S. Representative, House Majority Whip (1914-1972) Gerald Ford (R-Michigan), U.S. Representative (later 38th President of the United States), House Minority Leader (1913-2006) Allen Dulles, former Director of Central Intelligenceand head of the Central Intelligence Agency (1893-1969) John J. McCloy, former President of the World Bank (1895-1989) General counsel J. Lee Rankin (1907-1996) Assistant counsel Francis W. H. Adams (1904-1990) Joseph A. Ball (1902-2000) David W. Belin (1928-1999) William Thaddeus Coleman Jr. (1920-2017) Melvin A. Eisenberg Burt W. Griffin Leon D. Hubert, Jr. Albert E. Jenner Jr. (1907-1988) Wesley J. Liebeler　(1931-2002) Norman Redlich (1925-2011) W. David Slawson Arlen Specter (1930-2012) Samuel A. Stern Howard P. Willens (liaison with the Department of Justice) Staff Philip Barson Edward A. Conroy John Hart Ely (1938-2003) Alfred Goldberg Murray J. Laulicht Arthur J. Marmor Richard M. Mosk (1939-2016) John J. O'Brien (1919-2001) Stuart R. Pollak (1937-) Alfredda Scobey Charles N. Shaffer, Jr. Lloyd L. Weinreb (1936-)

Joe “ im a hunter “ Rogan

@goldjozi1276

3 жыл бұрын

"Nothing better then hunting for your own food" Rogan

@briangallagher7709

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Pullitsurprize

3 жыл бұрын

omg does this get old...

Wasn't Gerald Reginald Ford on the Warren Commission, IN Charge of BALLISTICS.?!

If Oswald acted alone, why would an eye witness with clear vision and nothing to gain state that he heard a gunshot and saw smoke from behind the wooden fence? Why would two officers immediate race up the hill toward the fence?

@vhufeosqap

2 ай бұрын

Why would people run in lots of strange directions? Why would people report hearing the sound coming from many different directions in a large open area with multiple story buildings reflecting the sound amidst panic. Oswald was in the book depository and shot kennedy

@vhufeosqap

Ай бұрын

@@totallybored5526 of Oswald tried to shoot jfk when he was “straight” in front of him(as in, if Oswald’s shoulders are parallel to the school book depository and jfk is within thr buildings frame/umbral/outline) then it’s a harder shot. JFK would have been moving faster a-crossed Oswald than when JFK is further away and JFK would be more in profile so would be smaller target If that makes sense.

When you know the "Whys" he was killed then the "Who" will not lead to a three-name peeson

@rideroftheweek

3 жыл бұрын

Chris W three name person. Lee Harvey Oswald

@timreyes2179

3 жыл бұрын

George herbert walker bush 4 names

@digitaldemocracyai-rob

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris W Stone mentions the man that murdered JFK. DULLES. Look no further.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIiex7dufaq5e9Y.html A related list: kzread.info/head/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

@@digitaldemocracyai-rob Haha the Director of CIA and a guy on the Warren Commision...what didn't that evil fu*k do?

in before joe says "magic bullet theory"

@wertytrewqa

3 жыл бұрын

@Ba Doai that link is spam

@wertytrewqa

3 жыл бұрын

@murray1234567891011 I can do the same thing for Joe's "if Werner von Braun was alive today, the Simon wesenthal center said he would be punished for crimes against humanity" speech

Just rewatched JFK the other night. What a cast and movie!

I love trust and believe Oliver Stone, most people go with the flow, it takes a truck load of balls to expose the truth...!!!!

Me and Oliver did so much coke in the 80s

@300zxss

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@hunterscott5836

3 жыл бұрын

Give us the juicy details

@MarkGormlyIsHung

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunterscott5836 a lot of laughs, tears and hookers

@Gynecologist

3 жыл бұрын

Why’d you stop? Party’s still going on in 12D!

@MarkGormlyIsHung

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gynecologist good one, opie

Thank you Oliver Stone for your book and documentary "The Real History of the United States."

The ARRB investigation is a gem - see Douglas Horne's five volume set.

The thin red line by Terrence malick has a line in the narrated thoughts of one soldier along the lines that ‘maybe there isn’t an individual soul in each of us but that maybe we’re all part of one big soul’, so in a sense, there’s something to the idea that killing and causing the suffering in other humans is at some level like doing it to ourselves. Friendship, camaraderie or even love I feel speaks to the same idea, there’s something about sharing a laugh even, that it’s something more than two wholly independent individuals being present in the same geography, like two lumps of inorganic material, there’s something that can’t easily be accounted for and beyond words. Anyway, I have to say, sometimes, often I have been very critical of joe, how he has handled himself, particularly with particular issues or guests, but his conversation with oliver stone to me hits certain notes and you can see they have a lot in common with each other intellectually, dare I say, at a spiritual level / connection, which of all the examples are the ones I’d point newcomers to the show to, and I feel demonstrate some of the best of what joe does. These are the reason I keep coming back in the hope there might that particular time be an exchange that hits the heights it sometimes does, truly memorable and significant, thoughts you carry around with you a long time after hearing them aired, in the best ways.

Joe “I like guns more than you do” Rogan

@JR-ju3kj

3 жыл бұрын

@Alfonso G Where did Joe say or claim that he knew more about guns than Oliver Stone did? Having been in the infantry,Stone obviously HAD to know about guns and how to properly use them, given his background in the military and war (otherwise,he wouldn't have survived)but one doesn't cancel out the other. Joe knows about guns because of his background in hunting and Stone knows about them,too. There are people who were hunters or even who have criminal backgrounds,who know a lot about guns.You don't have to have been in the military and law enforcement or a government agency or the military,ALONE,to know a lot about guns,

@TheDogDad

3 жыл бұрын

@Alfonso G some people that served don't know a lot about weapons

@nicehatmrdog5265

3 жыл бұрын

Stop the BS dam dude what happened? Dude was trying to rob u and you popped him?

My Girlfriend - " Joes headphones were not centered the entire time. " Me - " Did you catch they were going to blow a plane up and make up death certificates for fictitious people? " My Girlfriend (actual answer, while staring at the screen) - " yeah, someone needs to tell him." Me - " Well dear god honey i hope they do."

@kawasakiwhiptwo5821

3 жыл бұрын

LOL!... I think.

@williamkillingsworth2619

3 жыл бұрын

Cut that thing loose... You don’t need that type of stupidity in your life

@jokalee

3 жыл бұрын

911 was an inside job!

@shanehaney2121

3 жыл бұрын

Or be glad you have a gf that watches JR with you.

@nodivisionjustunity4364

3 жыл бұрын

jokalee thank you captain obvious.

I'm glad to see somebody here

Haven't watched this yet but I want to remind you that it wasn't Magneto, he was only trying to save jfk which is why the bullet curved!

@Owl90

3 жыл бұрын

Word!

@raynic1173

3 жыл бұрын

Lead is not magnetic.

@frostyflames7864

3 жыл бұрын

@@raynic1173 that's technically true. Lead is diamagnetic, meaning that it is repelled by magnetic fields that would attract magnets. Lead is a very heavy metal and not very conductive, only 7% as conductive as silver. But lead will interact *slightly* to very strong magnetic fields, meaning that Magneto could have curved it. Lead's weight and poor conductivity (not the fact that it isn't magnetic) is probably what kept Magneto from saving jfk.

@frostyflames7864

3 жыл бұрын

go to this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHl9u7qonbXKfLw.html to see lead and other nonmagmetic metals interacting with a magnet

@carlhungus2521

3 жыл бұрын

It was the Comedian that made the shot and his cigar made the puff of smoke

if only JFK could have made AIPAC register as a foreign agent

My dad has this story of my grandpa who was a sniper in the marines trying recreate those shots and couldn’t. I would assume that him and Oswald would have had similar training. But it was just a story that my dad didn’t even know if it was true because his brother told him about it.

@bluecollarlit

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting, thank you.

@melbourne-heat.69-71

Жыл бұрын

When Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Marine Corps he was basically the worst shot..His scorecard was written in pencil it was erased and changed to make him look like a better shot.. Malcolm "Mac" Wallace ex-marine he was Lyndon Johnson's Hitman this guy killed eight people and got away with it all he even killed Lyndon Johnson sister "Josefa" in 1963 they already had the evidence his fingerprints on the boxes and the tape and on the spent shells on the floor..There was 2 guy's also on the grassy knoll that was the head shot or the killshot.."Hermino Diaz" shot Kennedy in the temple the other guy beside him shooting was James Files Ex-CIA.. Lee Harvey Oswald was just the Patsy.. George Bush Senior had oil fields in Cuba he would go over there on his own ship called the Barbara after his wife..In return he would give them thousands of automatic machine guns handguns and ammunition for loading up his ship with 55-gallon Drums of crude oil..There was more then 4 shooters Kennedy never had a chance..The guy's that paid to have him killed were Rich oilmen tycoons from Texas..They put out $2 Million dollars..

@cormacthem8406

10 ай бұрын

For close family members that’s a lot of hearsay. However I do appreciate your level of honesty. 👍

Did this documentary they discussed ever come out?

I remember seeing JFK with my father and going into the cinema a boy and coming out a man. It really did feel like that on the way out, that my eyes had been opened to the world that I live in.

@williamtaylor5193

3 жыл бұрын

It was a movie, and a highly speculative interpretation of what went down.

@williamtaylor5193

3 жыл бұрын

@Bryan Mack Yes. I've always found it troubling that for millions of Americans, the Kennedy assassination was a formative political experience, based on the belief that Oswald didn't act alone.

@bobbym8974

10 ай бұрын

And perhaps stone closed your eyes more, via misdirection. Read Michael Collins pipers in the jfk topic.

Me: trying to listen to the pod cast and really Absorb the information Also me: omg Joes headset is on awkward and that’s the only thing I’m going to be focused on

The jump seat is the key to debunking the magic bullet

What gets me is that if you get a copy of any Dallas newspaper on the morning of the 22nd November it shows the motorcade traveling on main st so how did Oswald know to get a job in the Book depository 6 weeks before hand when the security detail had no knowledge of the altered route 12 hours before the assassination.

"We must convince the public that (Lee Harvey) Oswald was the real assassin." - One of J. Edgar Hoover's memos after JFK's death.

@brettg82au

3 жыл бұрын

Oh ffs lol

@Rayburn58

3 жыл бұрын

What hoover was saying is we must convince the public of the truth because oswald did act alone. Not one shred of evidence of any conspiracy.

@darrinnolen1555

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rayburn58 He wanted to disband the CIA. The CIA has been involved in assassinations and failed assassinations for years. Chavez? If they were going to do Northwoods and basically martyr innocent people for the war machine then they absolutely would assassinate a sitting president who got in their way.

@Rayburn58

3 жыл бұрын

@@darrinnolen1555 What hard evidence do you have to support any of what you said? Show us your proof, instead of voicing an absurd theory.

@darrinnolen1555

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rayburn58 Since you want people to spoon feed you publicly available knowledge. The national security archive (nsarchive2.gwu.edu) has the declassified operation northwoods from 1962. Along with other reputable sites. (Not Wikipedia) Instead of just saying “absurd” or thinking everything is a conspiracy theory you should actually attempt to fact check PRIOR to claiming something is false. Operation mongoose like the person above me brought up. Lots of information about that as well. Check the National archives. It’s a gov website. The New York Times article from April 25 1966 talks about Kennedy being “disturbed” by the CIA for being misled on the bay of pigs and has an admin quote reporting he vowed to “splinter the C.I.A. Into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds”. Cause just like today’s White House staff and attorneys. Everyone likes to write books about private conversations and leak to the press. Bay of pigs was a disaster to him. Kennedy’s speeches are also available to listen to if you want. He wanted to end the nuclear arms race. That’s Not exactly in the best interest of arms dealers and companies who profit in war. As for the coup claim.... I’m really not sure how old you are, or where your from but paying closer attention in US government or American History classes would have done you well. Even just watching the news. Election meddling? By the US in foreign countries, Lol you think Russia made that one up....? Venezuela? Guatemala? National archives, cia.gov, library of congress. You have all of these sources at your finger tips.

One of the most important questions is to ask what Oswald’s involvement was in this thing assuming it WAS a conspiracy. Was he just the fall guy then?

@stevetrammell6403

6 ай бұрын

The look on his face says (to me) "I've been played like a fiddle." That means nothing, granted. But, he's in custody for 48 hrs and there is no record of an interrogation? C'mon! Look up Thomas Vallee, who would have been the "Oswald of Chicago" if the hit had taken place there. It might've taken place in Miami if the SS hadn't caught wind of it and killed the motorcade portion of that visit.

JFK, Wall Street, and Platoon are Oliver Stones great contributions to cinema.

As seen in the film, Oswald and some of the others involved were connected to the Civil Air Patrol (CAP). Civil Air Patrol was and remains a CIA recruitment front. The primary co-founder of the Civil Air Patrol was David Byrd. The owner of the Six-Floor Book Depository building was David Byrd.

Joe says hes shot a lot of guns. Ha, how about bolt action. 3 repeated shots in a row on target within 3 sec. with bolt action rifle. Bullshit

@7071t6

3 жыл бұрын

yep and a moving target which the road has a 20 degree downhill slope and also that it winds like a snake as well, tell me as a shooter and sniper all those facts need to be calculated the scope was misaligned, its was at least 4" to the left and the same high, now even if you drop that same rifle the scope is not going to move that much, the fbi had to put 3 metal shims under it just to make it accurate to fire and they say that a ln did this shooting with that rifle total and utter bs, you need custom rounds with highly skilled snipers its that simple, Carlos harthcock could not do it even if he tried with that weapon totaly impossible its that simple and the most important fact is that the back wound in jfk had no exit point at all and this is right out of the autopsy report he had minor bruising on the inside of the chest wall no exit point for the bullet which they say hit jfk in the back 5 and 3/4 inch's down and 1" to the right of the midline of his back?

@yamatotakeru9078

3 жыл бұрын

True

@larrywheeler9917

3 жыл бұрын

@@7071t6 the kick back and operating the bolt after each shot means you have to refocus your eye through the sight. Why pass up an easier shot as the car is coming toward him on Houston st.?

@ericwilliams1031

3 жыл бұрын

He did try and shoot while the car was right below the window. His first shot hit the top of the traffic light instead and ricocheted down the street hitting the sidewalk, cutting that guys cheek with concrete chip. The second shot plowed through both men as Connolly was turned around to look where the first shot came from. Full metal jacket. The third shot Oswald had a couple seconds to line up and blew the side of Kennedy's head off. He had just enough time to get 3 shots off and just got lucky. He was focused and wanted to be famous for killing a president. Research the people who knew him best. Even his brother thought he did it alone.

@jpgiii85

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericwilliams1031 LOL K.

A lot of real world good and revelations resulted from the JFK movie. Stone deserves a lot more credit.

@garrybaldy327

3 жыл бұрын

He deserves credit for making a very entertaining three hour movie. Sadly, he forgot to include any facts as to the case

I wish Oliver Stone would do a movie on Lyndon Johnson.

Oliver "I don't know how microphones work" Stone everybody!

I’m bothered about joes headset being off centered more than anything lol

I went to the school back depository and looked out where Oswald shot JFK. I was shocked to see it wasn't that far a shot. It looks farther away in photos. That's my only comment. First time listening to you Joe and you do a great job. Congratulations on your success. I was at the Comedy Store a few years before you were there. Good luck.

@radar0412

Жыл бұрын

Everybody who visits the TSBD says the same thing.

@cormacthem8406

10 ай бұрын

Correct. Also the Lincoln Kennedy was in was modified with an elevated back seat for him to be better seen by the crowd. At this angle the trajectory of the bullet makes perfect sense and Oswald could and in all likelihood did kill the President on his own.

@User39.

10 ай бұрын

@@cormacthem8406 I don't know about that... I think there was a shot from the grassy knoll.....I think there was probably 2 shooters...Maybe Oswald...maybe not...but at least 2 shooters

@madara992

10 ай бұрын

@@User39.there’s still be a tendency that gun shots has some sort reverberation that can cause to echo the same shot from distances often happens in hunting too

@madara992

10 ай бұрын

@@cormacthem8406from the evidence it felt as it seems that Lee was just at the right place at the right time

This guy made the movie,Joe your not telling him anything he doesn't already know.

Where can I find this Doc, I have looked every where...

"Let your movie face be your real face and and your real face be your movie face." Oliver Stone.

I rarely have any heroes, but Oliver you rock. When I first saw the JFK Masterpiece at the Cinema I'd been immersed in the subject for ever. I was 9 when they took him out and I knew, I mean how could you not smell a rat, I'd done the docu's and read Col Fletcher Prouty and a few others and that film just laid it out in front of my eyes just like I figured it. Cudo's Oliver....

@larrywheeler9917

3 жыл бұрын

I've studied this case and grew up in the 50-60-70s. Kennedy got on the bad side of some powerful cold war types inside the govt.

@jamesblanshard9468

3 жыл бұрын

@@larrywheeler9917 ain't that the truth. The Dulles Bros, General Curtis LeMay, they were lining up. It's still shocking today when you think about it. And of course they couldn't let Bobby inside the Cabal

@bluecollarlit

Жыл бұрын

James Blanshard, you were nine -- I can relate, I was five. It's one of my earliest memories. I went indoors from playing - my parents were watching the TV standing up, and in the middle of the day... they were real upset.

@jamesblanshard9468

Жыл бұрын

@@bluecollarlit 'Destiny Betrayed', the whole world would have been different, what a waste........ Best wishes to you.

@bluecollarlit

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesblanshard9468 Thank you for sharing your comment.

It is hard to feel good when you know that you are being lied to

Politicians make mobsters look honest.

KZread can’t getJoe off of KZread fast enough