Was Caligula Insane?
Caligula made his horse consul, tried to make love to the Moon, and sent his soldiers to gather seashells by the seashore - or did he? As we'll see in this video, the Caligula of popular imagination may be far removed from the historical emperor.
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Chapters:
0:00 Caligula's bridge
1:30 The reign of Caligula
2:40 Established Titles
4:00 Decadence and cruelty
5:00 The emperor's eccentricities
5:45 Caligula's madness
6:37 Assassination, character assassination
7:43 Rumors of incest
8:19 Caligula's horse
8:57 Warring with the ocean
10:02 Explaining the bridge
10:37 Glimpsing Caligula
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Every time I am at cross roads in my life I always ask myself: What would Caligula do?
@t.wcharles2171
Жыл бұрын
Marry your sister and make a duck the beneficiary of your will.
@mitchellandersen9199
Жыл бұрын
So when did you start liking femboys?
@MalleusIudaeorum
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchellandersen9199 *literal kids
@peregrine-fu
Жыл бұрын
Probably make his horse a senator
@jpaulc441
Жыл бұрын
Caligula is my spirit animal
Historians : He suggested he make a horse his consul. Caligula : “ You are all so useless I might as well elect my horse as consul” ⚫️ Rumor : Caligula made his horse a consul. Lmfao !
@semoremo9548
Жыл бұрын
right? I would've burst out laughing if I had heard him say that to be honest, but historians and people in general saying he actually made his horse a consul, or seriously suggested it, takes the fun out of it. All the bad things he did aside, he was kind of hilarious.
@GAIVSCALIGVLA
4 ай бұрын
Finally someone speaks the truth.
@kaloarepo288
2 ай бұрын
It's very similar to 2 other allegations made about historical figures - (1) That king Canute (Knut) the Viking king of England claimed he could control the tides and (2) That queen Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake.' Both are taken out of context for partisan reasons - Canute was demonstrating to a flatterer that he couldn't control the tide and Marie Antoinette was referring to brioche not cake - brioche is a type of fortified bread that was actually quite available at the time and was quite cheap and nutritious whereas bread was temporarily in short supply.
@booksteer7057
Ай бұрын
An early example of Fake News. 😅
"Don't forget, I can do what I want." I think that statement describes his mentality perfectly. He was drunk on his own power & authority, and life became essentially a game for him. It's not that he was crazy, but rather he thought to himself, "but, who's going to tell me no?"
@MrFredstt
10 ай бұрын
Too bad he didn't think of the fact that if he didn't take the needs of his citizens seriously to some extent that at some point he would have no allies and he would be forcibly removed from power. I wonder if that's what crossed his mind during his dying breath
@merrittanimation7721
8 ай бұрын
@@MrFredsttTo be fair it’s not so much the average citizen he alienated rather than the elites since they were in closer proximity to him.
@michyoung77
15 күн бұрын
One of his most famous quotes is "Who cares if they respect me? So long as they fear me."
@AmericanIlluminati
15 күн бұрын
@@michyoung77 Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
Of all the things this channel has taught me, the fact that our ancestors thought and acted like us today is among the top. I can’t shake the feeling that Caligula just didn’t give a damn, a laissez-faire, bored, unrestricted “troll”. The disregard for human life aside, the stories all give off a sense of modern day sarcasm, or have some layer of irony.
@fruitygarlic3601
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The seashell story always struck me as someone using the imperial power to mess around. He may have ordered the most powerful force in the region to get up to whimsical holiday activities during an invasion, just because it would have been funny.
@viderevero1338
Жыл бұрын
He was a 4channer born too soon.
@cassiecasiano2500
Жыл бұрын
He was a performance artist.
@whatinthefudge5346
Жыл бұрын
It was better bc races weren't mixed we obviously weren't supposed to mix that's why we are different races
@Lightice1
Жыл бұрын
@@fruitygarlic3601 The most plausible explanation for the shell collecting I've heard was that Caligula wanted to invade Britain but the legions refused, and knowing that he would get murdered if he pressed the issue he instead decided to humiliate them by making them collect the shells and present them as bounty of their nonexistant "campaign". Refusing to do something as simple would have ridiculed the legionnaires just as much as doing it, so either way, Caligula got his petty revenge.
Caligula's eccentricities were so great that they reached even the farthest reaches of the Empire. For example, in Judea, he attempted to introduce a statue of himself into the Great Jewish Temple, which caused enormous outrage and resistance from the Jews. Had Caligula not been assassinated shortly after ordering the statue's transfer to Jerusalem, it would have sparked a full-scale Jewish revolt. If you are interested, the Anthony Burgess novel "The Kingdom of the Wicked" and the series "A.D." (which portrays the most degenerate and insane Caligula ever conceived) recount this event. Highly recommended
@leoribic1691
3 ай бұрын
I haven't seen A.D. yet, but surely he can't be worse anywhere than he is in the 1979 movie? I'm going to watch it!
@fieracarmen4713
20 күн бұрын
Vorbiți despre Caligula în așa fel,de parcă l-ați văzut personal și știți sigur,ce fel de om era!Eu cred că a fost o victimă mult mai mult, decât tiran!
Caligula's Horse is a solid band with some really good albums front to back. Stoked they got a mention here!
@honjon666
Жыл бұрын
Dang, I have thought Diocletian's Horse would be cool band name, i guess Caligula's Horse is cool too though lol, I'll have to check them out!
@2e826
Жыл бұрын
Haha I was caught off guard when he said it because it’s what I was thinking about
@massthetics1013
Жыл бұрын
I would recommend their album "In Contact" to start with. Enjoy!
6:37 Of all the depictions of Caligula's death, the best without any doubt is the one represented in the infamous 1979 movie. In this version, Caligula has long been aware that Chaerea wants to kill him. However, he doesn't move a finger because he actually wants to die in order to see his beloved sister Drusilla again, being his desire to become a God just a pathetic attempt to fill the void he has in his heart. Finally, Caligula realizes the day of his assassination that he already has a happy life with Caesonia and their child. Caligula then confronts Chaerea, ready to apologize to him in order to become the good Emperor he was, at first, destined to be. However, Caligula's unconditional love for his dead sister makes him insult Chaerea again, causing the latter to murder him and the Emperor's family. As the final credits roll on, we watch Caligula's dead face contemplating the high cost he paid in order to see Drusilla again
@michaeldunne338
Жыл бұрын
That movie was Bob Guccione's. Tinto Brass disavowed the project in the end.
@curiodyssey3867
Жыл бұрын
Latter** Not 'later'
@OptimusMaximusNero
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunne338 He still directed the majority of the footage of the films so, disavowing it or not, it will be always a film of his
@michaeldunne338
Жыл бұрын
@@OptimusMaximusNeroHe shot much film. Guccione noted that Brass shot enough film for the original Ben Hur,. 50 times over. I believe controversy centers around post-production and editing, which turned out to be a protracted, tangled affair, lasting several years. Brass would later be credited just for principle photography, while a generic "production" team is credited for putting the movie together.
@gigipaints1302
Жыл бұрын
O9oo9ooo
One note I’d like to add is that it’s very likely Caligula was deeply traumatized by his childhood, ranging from the death of his father to what seems to be political assassination, to the show trials of his mother and brothers, and then being used as little more than a pawn by his uncle, the emperor, him going mad from this trauma wouldn’t exactly surprise most, as it’s likely all of us in the same position would do the same
@jmd1743
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like he was just being spiteful toward the demographics who were in his childhood. He was 24 years of age when he took over which is not that many years from teenage rage. There was this girl who had a rich goldman sach's executive father. She went to a high dollar college & in order to rebel she smoked some weed while attending. She was arrested and then her father cut her off from the wealth. When she turned 18 she went to a infamous porn film studio that was famous for the most nasty type of content, think " two girls - one cup". When her porn content got out her father did everything he could to get off of the internet. He spent millions of dollars trying to get it removed off the internet with no sucsess.
@yippee8570
Жыл бұрын
Nah that's bollocks
@a2pabmb2
Жыл бұрын
@Maniac 5000 When was that ever suggested? We're certainly not going to give you any.
@rudi_tabootie
Жыл бұрын
@Maniac 5000 mhm good solution. treat psychopaths like a psychopath would. good idea
@MadProphet
Жыл бұрын
@@jmd1743 pics or it didn't happen
Caligula sounds like a modern billionaire with a better sense of style.
Established Titles is a scam. Having them as a sponsor hurts the credibility of your very excellent channel. It is difficult to see this appear alongside such well researched and thoughtfully presented videos.
@laurensb1b
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad im not the only one thinking this. Especially for a history channel, you expect the uploader to do his due diligence and check sources. If he couldn't figure out Established Titles is a scam how can i trust the rest of his information.
@saartnomsky4523
Жыл бұрын
He still needs to make money idiot
@jadeharley8640
Жыл бұрын
No one was talking about Established Titles being a scam until a few weeks after this video was posted. MOST KZreadrs did not know it was a scam at the time, and I'm willing to bet neither of you knew either. Toldinstone is still a perfectly credible channel (as credible as a random KZread video can be, at least), they just made a mistake that tons of intelligent creators on this site also seem to have made. It's fine to call out Established Titles, I just don't understand attacking a creator's credibility because you didn't actually look at the upload date.
@livrowland171
Жыл бұрын
@@jadeharley8640 uploaded this November?? I've known it or similar products are a scam/joke for many years! It's pretty obvious to anyone with any legal knowledge that you obtain no official, legal ownership of any land and no noble title that would be formally recognised by any government any more than one you just awarded yourself..
@nick.p.9328
Жыл бұрын
@@saartnomsky4523 so then money > dignity, right? Careful with the name calling, you might end up the one ;)
I think the writings of Suetonius are extremely suspect -he was a tabloid type sensationalist writing for another dynasty and blackening the reputation of the previous Julio-Claudians
@joshuaharper372
Жыл бұрын
If course Suetonius is writing tabloid sensationalism--that's why he is so fun to read. That's also why it is important to try to read behind the text or between the lines. But when there's as much reported smoke as there is with darling "Little Boots", I suspect there was at least some fire...
@reeyees50
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for admitting the obvious, even back then they had comical yellow press propaganda
@NathanDudani
3 ай бұрын
@@joshuaharper372 iF cOuRsE
@jasondashney
2 ай бұрын
If I said something to you today, nobody would take it seriously. If I wrote it in a letter to you 400 years ago, and somebody found it, it would be shown as evidence and people would claim the things I said were fact.
Great video as always but the unimaginable abuse Caligula allegedly suffered during his upbringing from Tiberius seems often ignored. I hope you will do more videos about both Caligula and Tiberius in the future.
@Dan_Kanerva
Жыл бұрын
average American take: > is never someone's fault... is always the parents
@knitterscheidt
Жыл бұрын
wouldn't any person who lived under the constant threat of a horrific death since childhood, witnessed his father's execution and other atrocities be a bit ruthless? was he really more insane than Tiberius?
@mordecaitoth6703
Жыл бұрын
@@Dan_Kanerva At no point did I absolve Caligula of the evil of his deeds. The video is a discussion of his supposed insanity and it is well understood that childhood abuse negatively impacts cognitive development. Have a nice, perfectly sane day.
@Dan_Kanerva
Жыл бұрын
@@mordecaitoth6703 you are correct tho , traumas caused by bad parenting was very overlooked all the way throught history until the last 2 centuries... i am not surprised how many insane people where key parts of old society
@redplanet7163
Жыл бұрын
@@Dan_Kanerva Indeed, Caligula's behaviour cannot be understood without regarding his time on the Isle of Capri with Tiberius. And what had happened to his family members in the years before that. It's no wonder he was a very disturbed individual!
The look on the horse's face at 8:24 is priceless.
@benrobertson7855
Жыл бұрын
@JZ's BFF Yass ifss obverlsss….piss me aanotheerrrssss..nnaaayyy.hic.
In the whole 'what if?' thing, I have often wondered what kind of Emperor Germanicus would have made. Probably one of the best. But Roman imperial succession stories are, to me, a lot like 'Survivor'. I always start off a season thinking "He should win!", or "She's going to win for sure!" but by the time I get to the final three I'm usually amazed at who actually survived, much less who won.
@merrittanimation7721
Жыл бұрын
When one emperor (Claudius) becomes emperor mostly because he's the only adult male in the family left, regardless of actual qualifications, it's indicative of a fairly unpleasant series of events.
@cerberus6654
Жыл бұрын
@@merrittanimation7721 True!
@theeccentrictripper3863
Жыл бұрын
Germanicus as Princeps is the stuff romaboo wet dreams are made of
@michaeldunne338
Жыл бұрын
Germanicus could have ended up a failure. However, he had campaign experience that was relatively extensive for a person of his age by the time he died - as commander of forces in Germannia for 4 years (AD 13 to AD 17), but also from military and administrative experience going back to AD 17. He made mistakes, and maybe violated certain Roman taboos and rules (handle remains while technically a priest of a college that was not permitted to do that, and having a fleet badly roughed up by weather on the North Seat; visit Egypt without Tiberius' permission), but seems he won the admiration of the soldiers and earned the right to command in their eyes (imperator). In a counterfactual of survival in the East, he may have been able to evolve or reach a new accommodation with Tiberius and prove a successful emperor after the long reign of Tiberius (AD 14 to 37 - about 23 year).He didn't revolt at the start of Tiberius' reign when the legions revolt, and it is uncertain if he could have changed his mind and revolted while in the East, or after another assignment. Its always possible that years of service to the state could lead to a situation of eroding his judgement, morals, constraints ... but data is lacking.
@cerberus6654
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunne338 Well put!
50% propaganda, 25% historical fog of time, 25% methods of conducting oneself shared by most roman rulers.
@jasondashney
2 ай бұрын
Nailed it. It always shocks me that historian, after historian will be so sure of themselves as far as historical matters go, especially when there isn't a mountain of evidence for most things. How people can look at the news today and see the same event covered so differently by all sides, and not realize that history was like that as well is beyond me. It's like we all assume that humans were perfectly objective and without bias and always factual and never wrong hundreds or thousands of years ago. Everything they say is gospel.
Established Titles is a scam.
It’s very difficult to believe anything good or bad said about the Julio Claudians because the histories were written by senators who judged good and bad based on how they acquiesced to the old Roman aristocracy. That said Germanicus would have been a great ruler
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
The senators had every reason to hate the Empire. The republic under the senators was Rome's best period. The emperors deprived them of power and at the same time heralded the fall of Rome.
@MalleusIudaeorum
Жыл бұрын
@@renatovonschumacher3511 false. It was corrupt and became so bloated with bureaucratic roadblocks by the time of the late republic that nothing could get done. The republic could never have carried on as it was indefinitely. The Roman Empire was infinitely more successful than the Republic by every measure and saw its greatest periods of expansion and financial growth.
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
@@MalleusIudaeorum YOU are wrong. Totally wrong. You could not be more wrong. WRONG ! !
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
@@MalleusIudaeorum You can compare it with modern times. The peak of European culture was the 18th century with a short revival between 1870 and 1914. The 20th century reversed everything and heralded the decline and soon to be end of Europe.The peak of Roman culture was the Republic. The empire initiated the decline, followed soon by the end.
@merrittanimation7721
Жыл бұрын
@@renatovonschumacher3511 How to say you're a Prussian fanboy without actually saying it
I guess the better question would be: “Was there a method, to his Madness”? Also most Kings and Pharoas is to be remembered and not forgotten, it’s a fear for them and see it as if they never existed. Although he is remembered for the crazy things that he did, but other than that he did pretty much the same things as every other Emperor did… they were all known for responding with extreme measures to questions they would ask themselves. Killing friends,family,anybody who’s a threat to the throne or that could overthrow them and even wiping out everybody around them so no one can get revenge. They “Heavy is the Head who wears the crown” but paranoia is uncontrollable. This is why they say it’s lonely at the top.
Any chance for a video about the Roman Republic? I'd love to see a video about Cincinnatus, for example.
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
The Republic was the best period of time in Roman history. The Empire was the ruine of Rome
Not having the Tacitus to balance the Suetonius really hurts Who honestly knows what happened. There is actually epigraphic evidence supporting the bridge story, and the amount of shipping boats that were ported there during the non-sailing season was immense. I had a professor convince me that this one actually happened. But I do think he was crazy. Nero on the other hand, is the victim of a total propaganda hit job from the ancient sources that still survives in popular culture today. #Nerodidnothingwrong (well he probably did kill his mother)
@MrFredstt
10 ай бұрын
Really? Nero is often the other Emperor touted as the most evil person in history. I'd like to hear more about how there may be more nuance to it
@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
6 ай бұрын
No Caligula was worse as he committed more financial waste and carnage than even that of Nero. Caligula is considered the worst of the ancient world and Hitler is of all time the most evil person in the world.
He was only in one big film, and then we never heard from him again.
@michaeldunne338
Жыл бұрын
In Europe they did, with a Laura Gemser film, on Caligula the Untold Story ...
@da90sReAlvloc
2 ай бұрын
No he wasn't he's in another big film called demitrius and the gladiator. Caligula character is in there as well
Caligula was and remained relatively sane considering all he had to endure. He grew up with tiberius, who was also pretty cruel. Lead poisoning may have fucked him up a bit but at the end of the day he was just human with depravity, dispite having had the world
@toserveman9265
Жыл бұрын
Empathy is misdirected
@siner2442
Жыл бұрын
U have to fight the World in order to keep it… remember anything worth having in this World, people will fighting u for it, so u have to fight to keep it.
@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
6 ай бұрын
How dare you justify somebody THAT evil and insane? That’s like feeling sorry for and admiring Hitler! Just because you have gone through some horrible stuff, doesn’t give you or anybody for that matter the right to do the most horrible things ever! How could you think such great things about a Roman emperor who was THE most hated and feared upon?
Another great video. Also really enjoy your podcasts - hoping you upload some more soon!
@toldinstone
Жыл бұрын
Stay tuned...
being the inventor of the "pleasure cruise" and the "orgy pit" isn't crazy its genius
@MrFredstt
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@thomastaylor6699
9 ай бұрын
🤢 He was a sick, vile leader.
Thanks for another excellent video, we always get the straight dope from you.
See you got baited by the established titles scam too
TIL that "Eccentriciies = beating a man to death with chains or having prisoners bled dry with dozens of tiny cuts."
Bravo, great video again!!!
you’re a excellent youtuber thank you for the content.
Caligula is also featured in the 1950’s movies “The Robe” and “Demetrius & the Gladiators” (well worth a watch).
He was just ahead of his time
This is the best part: 8:15 "Caligula's relations with his relations." 😋
You never covered his time in Capri where Tiberius showed Caligula the joys of torture and depravity.
2:51 I was just watching a LegalEagle video on Established Titles.... LOL.
Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them and the little history lessons on one of my favorite periods of time.
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
Your favorite period of time ? Are you aware that this periode marked the decline and fall of the Romans ? The best time of the Romans was during the Republic when the senators, the Roman aristocracy, ruled. The Empire ruined it all. The end of Rome also meant a setback of 1.000 years in European history. Your favorite period of time ? Are you sure ? You may also be one of those who admire the present day ruines for which the Emperors are responsible. Your favorite period of time ? Are you really sure ?
@jaelge
Жыл бұрын
@@renatovonschumacher3511: Quite the judgy little KZread comments Karen aren´t you? Imperial times of Rome happens to be my favorite era of study as well, would you like to bawl me out as well?
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
@@jaelge Your favorite period of study does not mean that it was also the best period in Roman history, no matter how much you love this period of decadence.
@jaelge
Жыл бұрын
@@renatovonschumacher3511: Pretty sure that´s what Optomix was saying irrespective of the fact that he didn't phrase it precisely to your satisfaction. But even if it is someone´s favorite era, so what? As opposed to what you may think Julius Ceasar´s and Augustus's times was some of the most peaceful and prosperous times to have been a Roman. And for me, the most interesting.
@renatovonschumacher3511
Жыл бұрын
@@jaelge Yes, Julius and Augustus and a few more appear in a positive light. It was not them who ruined Rome buth the dozens of other emperors and the imperial system as such that more and more turned against tradition and against the old elite that built and prospered Rome. The new imperial elite was a bunch of nouveau riche who were not interested in the continuity of ancient Roman culture. Parallels to today's world come to mind.
The clear disregard for human life seals it for me....insane it is
Hey, really like your channel. I watch your videos all the time. However I don’t see any comments talking about Established Titles - it’s a scam company. It’s a gag gift "name a star" type of thing and you don’t actually get land or have a tree planted. You actually can’t even hold the legal title of lord under Scottish law. This information is just getting out, but I would recommend severing ties with ET.
@jasondashney
2 ай бұрын
So you admit that it's a gag gift, but are still cranky about it?
@colleen6341
2 ай бұрын
@@jasondashney Why were KZreadrs promoting it like it was legitimate? This is old news. Established Titles is proven to be a scam and nobody (to my knowledge) partners with them anymore. I get "cranky" when KZreadrs I support partner with scummy companies.
@jasondashney
2 ай бұрын
@@colleen6341 Anyone that dense was bound to lose their money anyway.
It would have been really surprising if Caligula had turned out to be a well rounded Emperor considering his violent family background. His family was destroyed by jealousy, paranoia and ambition.
@VerilyViscous
Жыл бұрын
It'd be the second surprise I would learn about the Julio-Claudians. The first, of course, is that Claudius was actually a competent emperor, so much so that I'd say he was only eclipsed by Augustus.
@ATtravel666
Жыл бұрын
@@VerilyViscous The problem with Claudius was his visible disabilities in a world where they had extremely negative connotations, everybody thought he was an idiot. Which ironically, is probably how he survived the family bloodbath under Augustus (think the two Julias and Agrippa Postumus and especially under Tiberius.
@ultra-papasmurf
11 ай бұрын
@@VerilyViscous Claudius as the second best empire I feel is putting too much value into the early empire. His greatest accomplishment Britannia ended up a gigantic burden once the tin and gold mines ran dry and there are far more contenders for said spot
What I've heard about the 'madness' was that it was focused on the upper class, that he was humiliating them to play to the masses. the idea of a horse as council would fit in that line too. the problem was that he also turned his 'humor' on his guards who expressed their displeasure.
Suetonius portrayed all the emperors before Nerva and Trajan as mad tyrants outside of Augustus of course.
The captions on the pictures are HILARIOUS
Fascinating!
"Enhance!" I love it.
I love I,. Claudius and John Hurt's sudden appearance in this got a laugh from me.
Perfect timing because I watched the Caligula episodes of “I Claudius” today. Thanks for a different look at Caligula. It gave depth to his story.
@JOEFABULOUS.
Жыл бұрын
Coughing irritated him 😉
@jaybee9269
Жыл бұрын
Nah, he just wanted to cure the boy’s cough…
Beautiful. Just beautiful
1:30 - I don't know if it's that simple to just concluded he was insane. Wasn't there an oracle by the name of Thrasyllus of Mendes who prophesied that Caligula had no more chance of becoming emperor than of riding a horse across the Bay of Baiae? And in that, he used his opportunity and power to cross the bay?
@toldinstone
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the three explanations Suetonius gives for why Caligula built the bridge. It's impossible to say now, of course, whether there's any truth in it.
@ritchierichh
Жыл бұрын
@@toldinstone I feel they should've been mentioned at least rather than directly stating Caligula was insane.
@MarcusAgrippa390
Жыл бұрын
@@ritchierichh I just finished watching the video, and honestly, Garrett never once said that Caligula was insane. He quoted references and sources that said Caligula was insane and when he did so it was clear that it was the source which made the statement. And at the end he concluded with pretty much the same thing as your comment.
@tw9535
Жыл бұрын
I think that was kind of the point. Did you watch the video all the way through? Like at the 11:09 mark? Or are you saying the video misinterpreted sources from the past?
Didn't Caligula's successor Claudius describe him as 'deranged' in a public document after his assassination? It seems quite unlikely for Caligula's unclde to say that officially about his dynastic predecessor unless perhaps reluctantly acknowledging a widely-accepted fact known to everyone at the time.
@semoremo9548
Жыл бұрын
If he wanted to distance himself from the bad image Caligula had given the figure of emperors, I find it more than reasonable that he would've cursed him out no matter if it was true or not. If everyone hated Caligula, and Claudius wanted to clean up the emperor image, then he would've gone with the flow and agreed with them.
@sotony7483
Жыл бұрын
@@semoremo9548 Yes, possibly, but many emperors managed to distance themselves from their predecessors' acts and policies without stating publically they were deranged. It's an odd thing to say out loud about a member of your own family (and a former consular colleague) unless everyone knew it was true anyway and it was an inescapable reality that had to be acknowledged to be able to move on. I do accept more generally that the 'mad emperor' motif is overemployed in popular culture for others (e.g. Nero), but for young Gaius and his traumatic background it's all too believable. For example, at 25 he was at pretty much the peak male age for schizophrenia onset, which would have had a 1% prevalance in the population then as now.
@semoremo9548
Жыл бұрын
@@sotony7483 Tbh yeah they were family but like... it's not like that family was healthy or normal anyways so I don't actually find it weird that he said that about Caligula. I'm not saying there was no chance that the being "crazy" allegations hold no truth or aren't likely, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was just a group of wealthy people trying to smear his image (more than his other heinous acts had already smeared it lol)
It it just a coincidence that Caligula and King Joffrey from Game of Thrones have more than a passing similarity in appearance?
@jellyfishjig
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@merrittanimation7721
Жыл бұрын
GRRM has stated that Stannis was partially inspired by Tiberius (as he appeared in the I, Claudius BBC show) so it's probable.
@mrgaudy1954
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t there also “5 good kings” in ASOIAF to mirror the “5 good emperors”?
@hfsk123
Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment that Gleason kid could play the hell out of Caligula
There's a restaurant near me called Little Boots...Ive always called it Caligulas.
King Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones was based on Caligula. So if you want to see what Caligula was like on a daily bases go watch that show
caligula was the very first man to live in a society
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Dear Gaius, another master of hubris beside Gein, suffered from Grave's Disease and had Episodes of Occupational Delirium, he worked so hard on his sass!
Now I wonder how 12th century archeology worked.
Thanks
@toldinstone
Жыл бұрын
Deeply appreciated!
As I understood it Claudius still had Caligula's assassins executed.
Being a murderous megalomaniac is the definition of insane dude.
@veloce5491
Жыл бұрын
was hitler insane too?
I forgot who, but I remember reading an historian pitting foward the idea that Caligula’s order to collect sea shells was an order meant to humiliate his troops. A sort of jokes. This is because, as far as we know, the even occured on Caligula’s return from a failed campaign in gaul/germania, during which his troops refused, out of fear of the enemy, to follow rhe orders of the emperor. Caligula’s revenge was the order to collect seashells on the road to return to Italy. In essence: since u r not brave enough to cross the rhine into Germania, all u r good for is collecting seashells. Edit: This alligns with Caligula’s character. The emperor’s intentiom to make incitatus consul also seems to have been one such joke, likley in response to a fight with the senate.
I think the insanity of Caligula mainly comes from the fact he acted like a late empire ruler during the principate era. He was still at a time when he needed to appear as a member of the senate when as Agustus learned, that was just necessary pageantry for the transition from republic to empire. If he had come later he probably would have been remembered as an average emperor, but he came at a time when the aristocracy still had a lot of social influence and he pissed them off by showing they had no more political power effectively so they trashed him when they could
Power tends to corrupt -- sometimes so much that the corruption appears to be insanity.
@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
6 ай бұрын
It’s not power itself. It’s the person behind the power. Just like it’s not the gun or car itself that kills people. It’s the people with the gun or car. Same thing with power and wealth.
I have the original Caligula uncut movie on DVD from Penthouse-Malcolm McDowell was brilliant acting as Caesar and captured the essence of just how crazy and perverted He was. Good luck finding that to watch uncut
@dreamingsymphony
Жыл бұрын
I think you can find the uncut of you pirate it...or is it that there were more crazy things that are cut?!🤔 Needless to say the movie is just hardcore porn and when I was watching it I was just looking overy shoulders to not get caught!
Quite surprised to see Caligula's Horse mentioned. Good band.
@khanzor
Жыл бұрын
Came here to comment the same! Absolutely my favourite hahah.
Oh man, it hurts bad to see this channel support that established titles scam. I REALLY hope it was a desperation to find any sponsor and not a lack of due dillegence. For some reason, a channel like this hurts more because I respect it so much.
@ahappyimago
10 ай бұрын
How was he supposed to know it’s a scam?
@Tinil0
10 ай бұрын
@@ahappyimago Let's ignore that this was after the entire KZread community realized it was a scam for the sake of argument. Due Diligence is the answer. If you represent something, you have the responsibility of researching what it is you are representing. By advertising it, you endorse it. If you advertise scams, you are partially responsible for everyone that gets scammed who saw your advertisement and joined. That's part and parcel of taking money to represent something.
@ahappyimago
10 ай бұрын
@@Tinil0 His job is history not exposing fraud
@Tinil0
10 ай бұрын
@@ahappyimago It has nothing to do with "exposing" anything. He doesn't need to share any info with anyone, but by taking money to promote it he is absolutely responsible for it.
@ahappyimago
10 ай бұрын
@@Tinil0 no the people who made the fraudulent business are responsible unless it’s reasonably obviously a fraud
i had read that some local writer there had said that that will be the day sarcastically, when Caligula walks on water or something like that,,, so Caligula arranged the crossing.
I'm just glad we call him Caligula instead of Gaius Agustus. The guy was a real jerk.
I am not insane the world I live is too orderly. ~ Caligula.
So how do we think things like schizophrenia were recorded in ancient times? Obviously people just just say someone was “mad” but were things like delusions of grander something that was known about? Cause with him thinking he’s a god, paranoia of others with power and hallucination(like when he would talk to “moon people” or whatever you said) Like those 3 things sound like they could be schizophrenia to me, so if they did make up that he was crazy, wouldn’t it be a pretty weird coincidence that they described schizophrenia before a time where mental illnesses were understood?
Oof... Didn't expect an established titles plug in this one, that hits hard
@jasondashney
2 ай бұрын
Why? It's a gag gift. Anybody who literally thinks you can become a Lord for a few bucks deserves to lose their money. I bet they are furious after they go see a magician and find out that it's mirrors and wires.
The ancient historians (the ones whose work we’ve found, anyway) say Caligula was nuts..the contemporary historians say he was just misunderstood..I think he was misunderstood because he was nutty as a fruitcake.
That bridge on the sea is to me a pretty inventive defensive construction
Now I need to go back and did up the old "Viva Caligula" flash game.
I wouldn't want to live any where near him.
Ever feel like we're living in a bad reboot?
He may have had syphilis as well
One thing is that he should have been deeply traumatized, much of his family had been horribly killed or left to starve to death in cells during his boyhood, and then he had to serve and live with the man who did it, the emperor Tiberius.
Yes
Why do modern historians always feel the need to 'overrule' and second guess long established history?
I heard about your channel from the forehead fables podcast. I’m glad I found your channel!
@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
Жыл бұрын
Back to tard containment
Cheers, he is my favourite, little boots. We should all wish to be more like him. Let's hope to have leaders like him in the future. 😀😬😂❤️❤️
@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
6 ай бұрын
You want leaders to be like Caligula? You’re MAD and insane! I can’t believe you want tyrants and dictators like Caligula and Hitler!
Caligula was definitely one of the weirder emperors.
PLZ POST AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. WHENEVER. DONT REGARD YOUR LITTLE DEMON. WE ARE PARCHED.
Did Romans have any mental impairments from their lead ?
@orionfernandes4587
Жыл бұрын
Some did, I believe it was known as a disease that affected heavy drinkers.
@Marinilliv
Жыл бұрын
This is mostly a misconception. the Greeks and Romans knew about the health detriments of using lead and continued to use it in aqueducts and other plumbing, but the hard water buildup prevented almost any contamination of lead into the water supply. Surely some did, but the idea of widespread lead poisoning affecting a large percentage of the population is overblown
@gentlemanfarmer6042
Жыл бұрын
@@Marinilliv Thank You for someone saying this! Thus has become very pervasive as of late on the internet.
@gentlemanfarmer6042
Жыл бұрын
This*
@someguy8955
Жыл бұрын
Probably. I think it's similar to how we used to have leaded gasoline, which let high levels of lead in the bloodstream, which affected especially the children's development.
Like King Canute ordering the tide to retreat, to prove his sycophants were wrong.
Thanks for taking the time to give Caligula the benefit of the doubt. 😁
If you knew the us Constitution you'd know that titles aren't recognized in the us. Anyone who thinks he/she can strut around because they paid for a dirt clod in Scotland is in for some disappointment.
Caligula's Horse are fuckin great
@2:45 oof Established Titles
the movie THE ROBE i think has one of the best portrayal of calligula
5:44 LOL
Come on the dude was nuts. What more does someone have to do to qualify as insane nowadays?
@noahvannote363
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's allowed anymore.
The fact they actually found his boat leads me to believe that the historians weren't exaggerating much about the dude. He was likely exceptionally cruel, very bold, enjoyed taunting and humiliating political rivals and critics, had extreme blood-lust, and was an outright tyrant. The rest is embellishment to a person who was historically speaking probably not much less cruel than the stories of him state.
Early balding can be a sign of both lead and mercury poisoning. Emperors may have been more prone to poisoning because of their excessive lifestyle. Gilded food could have been done with amalgams containing mercury. The rich red of cinnabar was used a lot as a pigment and in medicines.
@noahvannote363
Жыл бұрын
Also genes do that. lol
@hfsk123
Жыл бұрын
Apparently the Roman's has rather high levels of lead in their systems bc they used lead for water pipes, cooking, cosmetics, amongst other things. It's truly a miracle their society functioned as well as it did
Hey man. I hope that this Rome trivia question is rhetorical, bruh. He never bathed in the Ranch dressing at Ambrose Pizza in La Mirada. How come? Great Channel
He may have been mad, he may have been bad, he may only have been eccentric. But it all came together to make him world famous. 2000 years after his death.
For some reason youtube doesn’t tell me when you upload videos. Despite being a subscriber
Caligula sounds like he was droned
Could I make a suggestion for video? I wondered how did people in Ancient Rome saw other religions. Did they believe that only their gods were real? Or that gods from other religions coexisted?
Just imagine thinking you're about to be executed only for the Emperor to come out.....and start dancing around the room for absolutely no reason at all
It's an interesting idea that Caligula was not insane. Many things I was told in history class or saw in movies, especially about antiquity, is based on rumors that were untrue. My guess is that, at the very least, he wasn't a very good ruler and had tyrannical behavior. Whether it was based on insanity or incompetence is a more difficult thing to decipher. I'd like to read more about him to find out.