As long as it hurts Disney, I'm totally fine with that.

@jakeharrison2000

26 күн бұрын

Agreed

@joemagwood9130

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

They are overpaying. Ratings have been in the dumps for the NBA.

@aar7149

26 күн бұрын

Avoiding the NBA at this point it is smart NBA rating have been really bad dumping the NBA which has a image problem and they extended the commissioner that has allowed those issue to fester. Espn is a dead brand and this does not really hurt warner with the ratings tanking and the NBA asking for 75 billion

@kyotheman69

26 күн бұрын

NBA went woke that's why

@3o4int3

22 күн бұрын

Idk if theyre overpaying. So long as theyre profitably able to sell ads they’ll earn money. The product is atrocious though.

@scarletspider1240

22 күн бұрын

You’re going to see a turn around in the upcoming years. There’s lots of younger players and teams coming up that are far better than the garbage of the LeBum era.

@pauls5096

22 күн бұрын

@@scarletspider1240 You might be right. In the 80s, the NBA was on the verge of bankruptcy. Then Magic and Larry Bird came on the scene and did for the NBA what Caitlin Clark is doing for the WNBA, at least in Indiana. Then came Jordan and the rest is history. NBA needs the next round of these types of players, IMO. I've never been much of an NBA fan but I watched Michael, the showtime Lakers, bad-boy Pistons and Bird, McHale and the Celtics. Those guys wanted to win above all else. Seems most of today's players get paid and don't care? I dunno.

Who in the hell would want to broadcast the NBA with the declining numbers they've shown over the last decade ? The amount of money they want for the amount of viewers they get the numbers aren't even close to matching

@thanakonpraepanich4284

25 күн бұрын

Did the good times ended for NBA when Kobe retired?

@hollywoodpineapple8337

25 күн бұрын

@@thanakonpraepanich4284 Yes it did. And LeBron for all his accolades and achievements aren't drawing in the fans and creating the hype like the previous stars of the past have. And considering back then there was less marketing avenues compared to the vast amounts of awareness opportunities that exists now, that's a big deal. That said, NBA not the only industry that this is affecting...Just look at Hollywood and films and the audiences they used to pull in the past vs. now when they have social media to market.

@Avendrew

25 күн бұрын

Good times ended when they went soft and stopped playing physical ball. Now they just play to the officials and bitch all game long. Whatever happened to beating and banging in the paint and trash talk

@Noah-ww5kx

24 күн бұрын

Sports are the only reliable vehicle ppl watch live .

Another casualty under Iger. Bobby is pitching a no hitter 😂

I hope all parties involved somehow lose money.

@FORTEtheSECOND

25 күн бұрын

Fingers crossed

Another lost for Iger and Zaslav.

@ardendragoon

26 күн бұрын

Zaslav is being smart. Basketball makes them no money.

@guadalupev30

26 күн бұрын

Zaslav is cleaning up a mess previous CEO and executives made.

Your overestimating how NBA is popular, they have been losing audiences for now 4 years, and the League has done NOTHING to get them back yet. Really WB is smart of getting out of the NBA business, cause they will decline more.

@terileo1203

25 күн бұрын

WB isnt getting out of NBA by choice, they just dont have the $ needed to pay what nba will get. Only reason Disney can (and have to) is b/c of profit from theme parks

@daveclark8337

2 күн бұрын

Warners Bros is SO broke they couldn't afford it anyway. It doesn't help matters that their Movie division has been producing box office bombs for the last 10 years.

Lol NBA was much better on NBC anways I tv aspect but damn the bussiness side way to much now

Something has to be done for the NBA ratings wise. I live in Seattle and there is strong talk of an expansion team here especially since this is still one of the fastest growing markets in the nation. But expansion gets complicated if TV $ continues to lag even though expansion could be a definite boost.

@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087

25 күн бұрын

Seattle leadership goofed up by insisting on using Climate Pledge Arena (old Key Arena) for Hockey & NBA. It's in a poor location for Transit and Parking. Also it's a small Arena @ 16,000 seating since it's on an existing Arena footprint. $900 Million spent for Arena Upgrade = Very Expensive tickets. Too bad the City would not allow the Arena to be built by Baseball and Football stadiums for a bigger Arena and has better Parking and Light Rail Transit Station there. Sonic glory days were mid 1970's & the 1990's when Basketball was a different game. It will be interesting to see who the new fans are that are willing to pay for $100+ tickets.

Man I loved that good old NBA on NBC jingle! I wish the NBA go back to the old days and LeBalco needs to retire!

@kyotheman69

26 күн бұрын

maybe if they drop the woke shit then maybe

@hkp7k3

26 күн бұрын

😅😅😮😅😅😅😅Z C😮 ​@@kyotheman69

Ugh. Espn having the hockey rights is terrible. I like hockey but refuse to watch espn.

@luigivincenz3843

26 күн бұрын

As a Canuck now in the US, i would rather gouge my eyes out than go with espn. The numbers with the other networks have been deemed "low" but they are always steady, never declining in the US market.

@mosessupposes2571

21 күн бұрын

First world problems 😂😭💧

Apple and Amazon are flushed with cash... poor Warner are desperate for money😂😂

@thanakonpraepanich4284

25 күн бұрын

Are they allow to pick only good bits from WB's carcass and throw the rest into sausage maker?

@shadowednight1600

25 күн бұрын

We could be seeing a shift in power. But Amazon is pretty terrible too

@daveclark8337

2 күн бұрын

@@thanakonpraepanich4284 What good bits does WB have? . In 2010, WB was on top of the world with the Harry Potter and The Dark Knight franchises. And that devolved into those awful Batfleck and Fantastic Beast movies. Almost 15 years of overpriced box office bombs and they just did it again with Furiosa.

This already happened here in Brazil, Amazon Prime is streaming tons of games. ESPN not streaming most of games was unimaginable back in the day

Isn’t NBA ratings dropping ?

I'm a huge Warner fan, and I still have to ask "Warner has sports?"

The NBA is woke as hell, the product is terrible, teams now have like 50 different versions of their uniforms, and watching it is boring.

@mosessupposes2571

21 күн бұрын

Good thing you have plenty of other options. The free enterprise system still works.

Soo… Disney prematurely publicized their sports strategy amidst the streaming wars competitors and inadvertently invited increased competition and diluted profits. I guess that’s 1 way to do it 🤷‍♂️😂

Randomly found this stream. Great find. Thanks algos. Excellent discussion.

Thanks for covering this!!

Aren't NBA ratings quite poor? And if there's no TNT broadcast with Shaq and Barkley ratings will only sink lower

Warner Brothers Discovery without a very large part of the NBA makes Shahid & Tonk Khan's All Elite Wrestling a very valuable program on Warner Brothers Discovery.

Looks like another bubble to me.

@davidangeron3365

12 күн бұрын

YES!!! War in Europe and a declining China will bring Market correction!!! ALL Markets ALWAYS correct!!! The NBA correction has not happened since pre-1977!!! Correction to the Bubble is overdue!!! And, the Billionaires will howl at the Commissioner!!!

Just to be clear (and please correct me if I'm wrong) --- the current 10-year NBA TV and Media rights deal between Disney/ABC/TNT (Warner Brothers) etc is a total of $2.4 Billion per year from 2015 to 2025, for a grand total of $24 Billion. But the current negotiations give NBC the TV and Media rights @ $2.5 Billion per year for 10 years ($25 Billion total) to broadcast 2 primetime games per week; Along with Amazon having the TV rights and Media at $2.5 Billion per year; And ESPN retains its NBA TV and Media rights (but to a significantly lesser extent) but at $2.6 Billion per year over 10 years --- ALL for a grand total of approx $7.6 Billion per year (or $76 Billion total over 10 years)? Is that correct?

Would the techies and Comcast be overpaying for the NBA? Yes, of course. But that's not the point. The point is sometimes you have to take a small hit - and believe me, to these tech companies, it's a small hit - in order to deal a devastating blow to your competition. It's as much about having the rights as it is NOT allowing Disney to have the rights. And that's a shrewd move.

@MsVC-cs8ks

26 күн бұрын

But then WE have to pay more for their “offerings” and I’m not here for it.

@gabrielschroll3824

24 күн бұрын

@@MsVC-cs8ks I'm sorry to bring this to your attention, but we are always going to have to pay more. Just as the sun rises in the east, and sets in the west, these big corporations will raise prices.

@rhedosaurus2251

24 күн бұрын

​@@gabrielschroll3824 Not when inflation is running amok. People are cancelling subscriptions to streaming, satillite, and cable in droves and the NBA can't afford that.

This is a win for Disney no one watches NBA like no one watches Disney movies

In my mind it might be that no one wanted to be stuck with the 'whole' bill for the shabby NBA.

Warner picked NHL over NBA, how weird.

@PristineTX

25 күн бұрын

NHL has small numbers, but the viewers have higher average net worth than any other major sport. Thus, they can sell high-dollar brands like no other league. And it’s not even close. 19% of the general population makes over $100,000 a year. 33% of NHL viewers make over $100,000 a yr. And a lot of those viewers are younger/families. PGA has a fair amount of high-earners too, but the average age is way higher, and that demo isn’t as attractive to advertisers. Hockey fans typically are hockey fans because someone in the home played hockey. And it is EXPENSIVE to have your kids play hockey. Equipment costs, ice time, camps, league fees and road games…it’s crazy.

@willbeard4835

20 күн бұрын

​@@PristineTXwarner going for that Canadian audience

Really glad that sanity has not come back. Streamers driving up the cost of content that fewer and fewer people watch.

Question , would the NBA on TNT crew of Ernie,Kenny , Shaq and Barkley move to NBC ? Cause that is the only reason to watch basketball on TNT at this point.

@aaronthomas1843

7 күн бұрын

maybe Shaq, Barkley and Kenny would......Ernie said he's staying at TNT. He does other things like March Madness and MLB

That's a lot of cheese!

Interesting how Disney/ESPN got the NHL as the Flyers are owned by Comcast.

11:24 NCAA is MORE fragmented - because they do deals with each conference and player - not the entire NCAA.

NBC getting the NBA back would be good. The foreign players are better players. They are more prepared than the American players are

Just a Thought $75 Billion for 10years, $7.5 Billion per year Fee If the (Linear) NBA Ratings are Goin Down per Year (This year Playoff ratings are Down), How does the NBA and its Partner stop the Downward Ratings ❓ And if NBA Ratings for Domestic are Downward Trajectory, How does the NBA and its Partner expect International Ratings to be ‘Higher’ ❓ And NBA made Bank even if the NBA Ratings go on a Continuous Rating Decline ❗️‼️

The NBA has become a cry baby contest. Star players get the vast majority of the calls and basketball has become game the officials. Floptastic

Almost don't care about games.. This means Earnie J and the studio show is done. .. wow. End of era

The streaming broadcasts of sporting games are so bad I'm considering getting cable

That is insane. Who spends $2.6 billion a year on 81 games?

Oh nooooo!!!!! No Kenny and Chuck!!!!!

Does this mean more NHL on TNT? I like their coverage. ESPN's team are meh

I miss being a nba fan more than I miss being a football fan, but im still never going back.

I keep saying Disney is broke and has way too much debt.

Bravo Iger and the Disney board! How much money can you lose investors before half of the year has passed?

I believe WBD was willing to pay more for it. But only a couple hundred million more. When the contract negotiating window expired that's when Comcast came in and said "Oh they'll give you $1.7 billion? How about we give you $2.5 billion." I do think Zaslav and Co does want it, and was willing to pay more for it. He attended NBA games, including the playoffs. But when rival companies have more money to throw around is difficult to compete. It will be interesting to hear all sides to the story once it becomes official.

sports is where the money for streaming is

ESPN is about to acquire the NFL network...

This video is puzzling, surely the NBA’s first streaming partner would be Amazon Prime considering TONIGHT I watched Bucks Pacers on Amazon Prime.

Never watched the NBA and never will.

SHRINKFLATION!

You're wrong, Valiant. The only sports we like here are blood sports. Welcome everyone to the commentary of the corporation blood sports.

it would be so funny if a nba team just decided to cheer up a crowd, get everyone excited and then when the game starts they break out a poker table. they are getting paid no matter what they do.

this good news all sports league mlb and mls and nhl pro wrestling lots of stuff like boxing mma college sports will get more now.

TNT having the rights since 1988 tells you the era cable mattered. Since 2005 it has been practically held hostage by cable that nobody should have anymore. Pay a subscription for what? JUNK Junk they actually sell commercials for that people watch? Its not just NBA the whole system is rotten. Anyway I did not know this because I checked out on watching NBA games when Jordan left the Bulls. Until recently. The past few years I have been watching the Nuggets, when I can, didn’t realize how locked down the NBA is on cable… Even the playoffs!!!!? Not for Jordan nor the Nuggets would I get cable. The announcers are awful, the “NBA insiders” are awful, many players are awful, its a really toxic stew. Im ready to resume my position from before stumbling into the interesting game the Nuggets have, Send/Sell the NBA to china.

ESPN will be fine. They still have the WNBA and the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Championship every year. Not to mention cornhole and both men's and women's college lacrosse. I hear they are also still in the bidding to pick up the Tokyo Dolphin Killing Festival.

Disney still get nba finals every year on abc network. ESPN get fewer games Amazon get couple of nba games on prime video NBC is outbidng Warner Bros for B Package including playoffs games to be stream on peacock

@shatnerhasselhoff

22 күн бұрын

Should be top comment

Sports are the only thing where people watch adds cause it’s the only thing people watch together live anymore. Non-sports people just don’t get it. That’s why sports rights are exploding and as more people watch everything on streaming live sports is gonna get MORE valuable - not less. Cause as sports fans it’s a communal experience - we all watch it together. So people aren’t streaming games later to avoid adds. I sometimes watch a moment or 2 behind - but in big games when I watch with others or engage with others online - if I am behind them that is impossible.

So make it even harder to see a game people dont watch cable anymore and the a numbers stink lol make it even harserto see a game and further ruin it

While I understand all things change and morph, I find the NBA unwatchable now. It is not the game I loved as a younger man.

I hope ESPN waste a lot of money on the nba because no body is watching it in the regular season they only watch it in the playoffs because it a different game then the players play defense then its not just run down the court shoot and run back

If they pass I have a super good idea fir turner go full out in the NHL next deal in 3 years get more playoff games

Nobody watches the NBA. :) The stock holders should sue they boards and CEO's of these companies.

And everybody clapped

Sports are *always* sexy!

The NBA is on the decline

We just built a system for smart tv & streaming & monetization. CNN should have hired my team. Lol.

I am wondering how many people still care about any of this.I was over Deisney and woke wankery a while ago.

@mosessupposes2571

21 күн бұрын

Disney has been doing dirt to kids since the 1940s. Too bad you didn’t care about that all along. It didn’t matter to you until you got your widdle feewings hurt ❄️

Who still watches the NBA?

@themourac229

26 күн бұрын

The same people still watching Disney Star Wars

@sygmarvexarion7891

26 күн бұрын

The same people who give money to Disney.

@iamasaint_5727

25 күн бұрын

Yall do

WBD have lost 4.3 billion dollars in net valuation in about 10 days! Their stock price is now 70% less than it was 2 years ago and they have dropped net value from 28 billion dollars to 18 billion dollars, when they still have 43 billion dollars debt!!!! lol WBD is burning

🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣DOH!!!!!!!

I used to watch NBA games… but, It’s been decades since I had any interest in it at all. I’ve never seen this LeBron James guy play a basketball game. I did watch Caitlin Clark play a game but the veterans of the WNBA kept insulting her out of their jealousy she was making more endorsement money than they were. So I won’t bother watching their dog and pony show either.

I think Disney can't afford the cost to retain rights to major sports right now

Lifelong NBA fan, they’ve created a product that’s not even watchable. We grow up learning defense differently than the NBA allows it to be played. Everyone knows the ratings have been dropping like a boulder for 4 years, and it will keep happening under Adam Silver because the players don’t respect him. He asked the All-Stars this year to make it a game and play defense because nobody watches it anymore, they players stuck it to him by scoring over 200. The league has never been more unwatchable, maybe I’ll try again after LeBron is out of the league even though the creation of Clutch Sports was the beginning of the end.

The NBA? Who cares?!

As long as it destroys Disney and ESECPN im definitely for it! Im going to buy more Amazon stock, NOW! Yes, the NBA is horrible and a joke product as well!

If youre going to bid for sports rights, hsve some understanding of the environment in which you're buying. E.g woke content making customers switch to sports and an understanding of how sports rights actually work.

Go Celtics!

NO one watches the NBA

@Npc1488-wc1kf

26 күн бұрын

13% abd their liberal subs do

@pdbronco

26 күн бұрын

Nobody watches the WNBA. The NBA still has decent viewership numbers. (Then again, I don’t watch the NBA [since I find it boring]. The last time I watched was the final game of the Isaiah Thomas/Bill Laimbeer era Detroit Pistons first championship.)

@sonnyandreotte5721

26 күн бұрын

38 million watched Mj last shot. Now Between 5 an 8 million An that's being generous. Nba peaked.

@562wiseguy

25 күн бұрын

Yet basketball has the highest average salary of any sport and the NBA in specific averages over 10 mil which makes them the highest paid league of any sport in the world...somebody is watching

@jonfreeman9682

25 күн бұрын

Actually it's watched a lot by Americans and worldwide. It's second only to NFL and Superbowl. But worldwide NBA is huge second only to European ⚽ league.

You don’t sound too bright when you talk anything sports. Do you fallow tv sports ratings. All sports ratings are down . Masters Sunday couldn’t draw 10 mil.

If Amazon retains the rights to air nba games, I’ll bet viewership goes up. EVERYONE has Amazon prime….less and less people have cable which for a long time has been the only way to watch the NBA.

They should invest all their money into the WNBA. There's as much of an audience there as there is for any current "modernized" show they release