To anger a conservative, lie to them. To anger a liberal, tell them the truth.

@trevorthornley8835

Ай бұрын

Don't ruin my life with lies, when yours can be ruined with the truth.

@greyhairedguy

Ай бұрын

@@trevorthornley8835 Gina Carano truth...

@ghenulo

Ай бұрын

Eh, both are right-wingers I don't care about.

@greyhairedguy

Ай бұрын

@@ghenulo That's like loving only your left foot. If I am ever being chased by a bear, I want you on my 6...

@geraldcouture5319

Ай бұрын

@@ghenulo Disney's view? Disney is a Marxist leaning company and use racist practices, they are more left wing, not right?

So by their own admission, Disney is no longer in the business of entertainment, but in the business of creating speech - i.e. propaganda. Screw those extremist sociopaths.

@taffysaur

Ай бұрын

I’m glad they’re copping to the fact that they are now more analogous to a gay pride parade than an entertainment company. 😆

@sanle7515

Ай бұрын

@c0d3warrior it is kind of surprising that they took the First Amendment route. Freedom of speech is meant to protect individuals ( and now corporations , now viewed as 'persons' under the law ) from gov't interference. Ms. Carano did not restrict the ability of her employer from expressing their 'message' ,and there was no government censorship. I would have thought they would try a tactic more like the brand tarnishment & reputational damage Walt Disney Co. would have suffered had they kept Carano on. BTW, hate speech, propaganda, etc. are protected under the First Amendment

@marhawkman303

Ай бұрын

@@taffysaur yeah, that analogy they used in their legal argument was utterly INSANE. For the argument to work... they have to redefine the purpose of the company.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

Gina wasn't fired for HER politics... she was fired because she lifted the curtain and then shined a spotlight on DISNEY'S agenda. 5:09 - when VR is reading Gina's tweet, where she reveals (without naming names) Disney's agenda... which has *everything* to do with what CD calls "The Message".

@Willowy13

Ай бұрын

All of these companies are. I can't comment in youtube right now (or ever). Probably this comment will be erased.

Parents no longer trust Disney.

@ghenulo

Ай бұрын

They should never have. I was traumatized by Disney movies when I was a kid. Disney needs to come down!

Disney is so full of shit.

@jakechapman1442

Ай бұрын

Amen can’t Disney figured out lies from the truth

@user-ug4lt3yr5w

Ай бұрын

Yes, Rumor has it they have a toilet overflowing "problem"

Hammill is the classic case of never meet your heros

@Darth_Jah

Ай бұрын

Luke skywalker is my hero, not that Hollywood hack

@SamtheBravesFan

Ай бұрын

He's an actor.

@nathanrussell-raby5460

Ай бұрын

Mark Hamill is so tragic. He had so much goodwill with the fans garnered from the way Disney treated him re The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. He was so close to becoming the face of an entire movement against Hollywood which could have been very lucrative for him. And he threw it all away to go on delusional, foundationless political rants.

@Xiy114

Ай бұрын

Sad huh?

@Boskov01

Ай бұрын

@@nathanrussell-raby5460 There's nothing really tragic about Mark. Look closer into his personal life and it'll repulse you.

So Gina can't say; " beep, bop, boop." Yet these other characters can say anything racist and defamatory they want and gina can't say anything.

@Disturbotron

Ай бұрын

"beep, bop, boop" is the n-word for computers / ai.

@dannygraves4997

Ай бұрын

And Pedro Pascal could openly side with a Pedofile (1st attacker in the Kyle Rittenhouse case) on Twitter with 0 repercussions.

@fido2644

Ай бұрын

@Disturbotron 😂

@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it was that part that got her canned. I think it was her posting of modern day actions being comparable to what happened to the Jewish people in Germany.

@thelordakira

Ай бұрын

@@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden it was, they were just looking for anything else that was not that crazy. they found ... well something.

Disney can do whatever they want. I'm not associating my money with them anymore.

@anthonyyoutubefan7567

Ай бұрын

After all, that's your 1st Amendment Right, as an American citizen. 😉

@leroyrussell8766

Ай бұрын

What Disney admitted to is that they care more about their political message, than creating the kind of entertainment we actually want. You get more of what you pay for, people.

@paulboger3101

Ай бұрын

Your money, your choice!!

@taffysaur

Ай бұрын

I’m not giving them anymore of my money either, BUT I am not of the opinion that “they can do what they want” and I will be fine with it. I am a HUGE Disney mark, and I want the company to return to its established values and to producing timeless and profound entertainment again. I don’t want them to completely destroy Walt’s great century-old legacy. It is cultural vandalism and it is not right that they can get away with it.

@tim2024-df5fu

Ай бұрын

People for some reason think only the government is required to obey the constitution. We're all required to obey it Violating civil rights is a crime even for civilians.

Apparently they agree with the messaging posted by Pedro Pascal and Mark Hamill. Got it Disney.

@brianschwatka3655

Ай бұрын

But they don't have an agenda or message according to Iger

@bookonlegsbookonlegs8991

Ай бұрын

Yeah, weird that.

@ComeAlongKay

Ай бұрын

Yeah Pestcal can be horrible and bigoted towards a group but how dare anyone say true things that threatens the woke narrative.

@ComeAlongKay

Ай бұрын

@@brianschwatka3655Iger The Terrible and Pestcal. Feel free to use them. Get some slams going on the woke oppressors of all good things.

Biggest issue for Disney is that they didn't fire Pedro Pascal who made way worse statements in twitter so they have discrimination in base of political views which is illegal.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

They didn't fire Gina for HER politics... they fired her for revealing THEIR politics. It came from the Left in 30's Germany... and once again, it's coming from the Left in 2000's (and ongoing) Hollywoke.

@garys1216

Ай бұрын

He posted kids in cages and blamed Trump, then the photographer came out and said, no those were under Obama and Pedro knew it before posting. Of course no repercussions from mouse house

@paulnicholson5997

Ай бұрын

There were more people than Pascal that made extremely rashist statements and they're still there.

Up until about five years ago, Disney could bully their way through the courts and do whatever they wanted. Those days are over.

Disney thinking they can be the Thought Police.

This brings up another interesting point if their argument is allowed to stand. They now own all their employees tweets for good or bad. If a Disney employee harasses you over twitter you can now sue Disney. Because by their own admission they support that employee and their message by not terminating them.

@MoonbeamGardener

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Any person that was put on blast by one of their employees can claim they were being targeted and/or harassed. I thought Disney's lawyers were supposed to be some of the best in the business. Did they fire all of the good ones and replace them with DEI hires?

@BeazleyStudios

Ай бұрын

I am starting to question that reputation. I wonder how much of their rep was due to Disney's money train. Why win in court when you can outlast your opponent's wallet.

@Meop79

Ай бұрын

This is an excellent point. Not sure that it would cover all employees, but definitely all of their acting talent.

@eddiebruv

Ай бұрын

@@MoonbeamGardenerDisney’s lawyers have proven themselves to be inept bullies recently. They normally rely on outlasting and outspending the opposition to either make them withdraw or come to an agreement. Watching then get their asses handed to them by Florida was amazing, let’s hope Gina delivers the final decisive blow in this case.

This lawsuit is already having the intended effect of exposing Disney as believing they are above the law and that they can dictate what opinions are acceptable by anyone that works for them.

Disney: That Gina Carano lawsuit against us? We want that dismissed. Oh, and that CFTOD? Yeah, we want that to go away too. Also, that Parental Rights In Education law, that has to go. And it should be illegal for people not to see our movies in the theaters.

@RichardSmith-dl2dk

Ай бұрын

If they wanted the Parental Rights in Education Law gone, then why did Disney give money to the campaigns of every sponsor of the bill?!!!!

@margaretwood152

Ай бұрын

(*) DI§§NEY *_is_* now The *EMPIRE.*

@margaretwood152

Ай бұрын

--> DI§§NEY *_is_* now The *EMPIRE.*

@fido2644

Ай бұрын

​@@margaretwood152Disney=DisNazy 😒

@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden

Ай бұрын

I’m happy to see some of their movies in theaters…by way of paying for a ticket for a different movie made by a less offensive studio I’m not boycotting.

So glad I am no longer a Disney cuetomer. I do miss the days of the Disney afternoon when I was a kid...Ducktales, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Talespin, Darkwing Duck...ah th good old days 😢

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

Don't forget Spin and Marty and the Hardy Boys. Uh, oh. Yep, I'm that old.

The "repost" sheds light on Disney's ideology and they can't have that come out.

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Why do they think the first amendment only applies to them and only when it involves the suppression of speech, not the free expression of speech?

@mandymac74

Ай бұрын

When is Disney going to sell ABC, HULU and all the theme parks? I am hoping Gina becomes owner and CEO of Disney!!!! Take them for all their worth.😊

DI§§NEY *_is_* now The *EMPIRE.*

@margaretwood152

Ай бұрын

"It's _*OK* When *We* Do It."

I love how Disney describes its complete LACK OF VALUES as “Disney’s values”. 🙄

@jeffrymilton1093

Ай бұрын

Disney likes to cherry pick the legal tree when free speech aligns with the far woke left and their views. Anything else is off limits for their actors and employees.

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

I believe they do have "values." It's just that they are terribly misplaced.

Nice of Disney to throw their case, and admit they broke State law. Iger, Iger finds a way.

Interesting. So this is them admitting that they approve of all of their "creatives" calling people Nazis over differences is opinion. That was something we've heard over and over again by their people. The fact that they didn't roll over on them suggests that's some of the speech they support. It'd be enough to boycott Disney, if I wasn't already boycotting Disney. 🤷‍♀️

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile, they actually honored a neo-Nazi in the parks for illegally occupying Russian indigenous land in the Donbass.

Disney is generally missing the mark when it comes to brand image.

Never forget that The Triune Equity firms lost a force multiplier of 15 trillion dollars, Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street has 30 trillion dollars (down from 45). They are losing the culture war.

@seancollins9745

Ай бұрын

lets keep it going to zero, fuck'em

@dangtoons1760

Ай бұрын

Agreed, they're losing but sadly, there's a long way to go. They are devout & true-believers in this nuttery, and they're in the business of doubling down rather than correcting course. Disney is leveraged tool of these equity firms so there's trillions lost but trillions left to lose. Maybe if the flow of public cash into these "investment" firms could be slowed or stopped that'd dampen their influence.

@racingraptor4758

Ай бұрын

They have??? Im asking seriously because i dug into them and I feelt hopeless that they will win no matter what. Maybe there is a hope after all

Disney is internally sick. To ingrained with staff that can not or will not be eradicated. Just have to deal with that fact. Period.

@JR-ej9up

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it sucks. But very true.

@peterrealar2.067

Ай бұрын

The company needs to be BOUGHT WHOLESALE and then CLEAN HOUSE of these demons.

@seancollins9745

Ай бұрын

same idiots in the government

@racingraptor4758

Ай бұрын

​@devodevo-ti8pgand rebooted with new people without disgusting agendas

Go Broke, Get Woke, Then Croak!

@Aikurisu

Ай бұрын

Ah, a fellow Razorfist fan, I see!

@isolinear9836

Ай бұрын

Razor had the causality correct. Or at least, it was moreso "Go broke, get Woke, Croak", then it was "Get Woke, Go broke". Bud Light was one of the EXCEPTIONS, rather than the rule...

@and__lam1152

Ай бұрын

"Everything woke turns to 💩" - D.J. Trump

Boycott Disney and their toxic agendas. Don’t buy any of them merchandise., don’t go to any of their movies, stay away from their overpriced theme park, cancel your streaming service

@paulboger3101

Ай бұрын

Done!

What I think really hurts the Rodent House here is they openly admitted to kicking her to the curb *for* expressing herself on social media. They can never claim anything more innocent because they chose to boast about it themselves on social media as their way of announcing the end of association. That action may do them the most damage in California Law.

@billmullins6833

Ай бұрын

I doubt it. Forget California law, leftist judges tend to rule along ideological grounds. What Gina Carano posted was contrary to most progs' ideology and so Disney will be found okay in firing her. Bet on it.

Few people were even aware of Gina’s post until Disney made a stink about it.

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

"Beep, boop, bop." I thought the R2 response was pretty cute. I guess Disney sort of took it the wrong way?

Reminds me of nerdrotic commenting on igers interview talking about non political issues. "It's not political it's just right and wrong and we decided we're right, you're wrong."

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

Actually, what he said was ..."To me, it wasn't about politics. It is about what is right and what is wrong, and that just seemed wrong. It seemed potentially harmful to kids." A bit softer than what you suggested, but still arrogant enough.

@JohnDoe-vm5rb

Ай бұрын

​@@montarakid1943 I was quoting gary's reading of it. In hindsight, I do make it sound like it's iger saying it.

'Your honor, her tweets go against my clients desired message and we request a dismissal!" "Please define, precisely, your clients desired message."

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

Their message = "all man bad". In 30's Germany, it was just the people with the gold stars... but the intent is the same. Gina shined a spotlight on the similarities... and that is the reason they fired her.

Disney could do this. But then they need to argue when Pascal or Hammill compare MAGA (or anyone right of Mao) as 30s Germans, that's not underplaying Holocaust. Unfortunately, many left of center actually think it is not. And because of this, all their actions are justified. Disney thinks this is the moderate position.

@Grrymjo

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Is it illegal to have such position in the US?

@SelecaoOfMidas

Ай бұрын

Considering the placement of the Overton Window, it's easy to see them being comfortable in their delusion. Time to move it back to the right a bit.

@Grrymjo

Ай бұрын

@@SelecaoOfMidas Can you do it, though? How complete is the cultural revolution in the US right now? There are no reeducation camps (yet); can captured education system replace them?

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile, Disney actually honored Nazis at the parks.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

Do you know what they say about the Left accusing someone? That it's actually a confession, instead? Gina lifted the curtain and shined a spotlight on the fact that Disney (and others) is behaving *exactly* like those 30's Germans.

The lack of respect for the constitution and laws of by Disney is a sign that the administrative thinking of that company is the same as that of The Empire in the movies, full of totalitarianism.

Disney basically rewarded Rachel Zegler for attacking Gina by giving her that role in Snow White. Disney bent over backwards to protect Rachel and cover up her endless lies and attacks on fans. Now it makes sense.

So corporations with intention on social engineering have 1st ammendment rights, but we don't. Got it.

@amyself6678

26 күн бұрын

Disney is legally right, can fire Carano. We'd all fire a actor who said half the audience was morons and awful, instead of being quiet. When did performers start thinking they are wise?

@SomeGuyNamedRoy

26 күн бұрын

@@amyself6678 they didn't fire Pedro Pascal when he compared the other political side to nazis. You can't fire one person for doing it and praise the other.

@amyself6678

26 күн бұрын

Who are we to tell a business when an employee should be fired or not. Maybe Gina and Pedro said the same bad thing, but he is the VOICE of the title character while she was in 5% if the episodes. As a business decision they can choose to fire her and not fire him. The bigger the star the more misconduct they get away with since their employer is a business. I'd bet in 1990s when internet started the corps tried to keep all their stars off it, they prefer zero speech to not offend either side. Even now they DO fire those who get too extreme on either side. There is no rabid socialist actor employed in Hollywood, but you'll find them in colleges, so Hollywood has a ban on them on the left. The #1 rule of US business is a business gets to choose what to do unless it's race based, we never all agreed one ALSO can be a political nutjob and employer can't fire you, when did we all agree on that? I could be wrong, just guessing.

@SomeGuyNamedRoy

26 күн бұрын

If this was a normal company that would make sense. From the information in the lawsuit Disney has disclosed and the political action they took against Florida's governor, it's clear to see they are 100% aligned with far left politics and thinking. This isn't about the size of an actors fame, its about which party was insulted, and which talking points were said. Are you on the Disney payroll or something? It's odd to have so much faith in a corporation that is only self-motivated.

@amyself6678

26 күн бұрын

Can't a company have politic stance? Most health care companies want more govt help for sick people so lean left. Same with most environmental clean up companies. Most oil companies lean right. If a employee loudly says politicians from party B are liars and evil and should be locked up, and that pisses off employees and CUSTOMERS it would be costly to keep that employee. Dont run your mouth if it'll offend your boss, the law isn't magical shield your boss can find a way to fire you. Any law to contrary is worthless, it just makes boss lie to fire you. Until we have brain readers we can't have laws that try to stop the unstoppable, don't piss off most at your workplace and then wonder why got fired.

What Gina said in so many word, was essentially, "Be excellent to each other! 🎸🤘"

@eddiebruv

Ай бұрын

How bigoted of her!

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

No. What she said, summarized, was, "They are doing it AGAIN!" (re: pitting neighbor v. neighbor using all available means).

That makes no sense, she did it on her time, which is not part of their entertainment production.

@sanle7515

Ай бұрын

yea I thought it'd be Walt Disney Co. claiming brand tarnishment / reputational damage, @thelordakira

@Meop79

Ай бұрын

Yes it is. Actors are never off the clock. Look at AH and her effect on Aquaman 2.

@thelordakira

Ай бұрын

@@Meop79 The Term Disney used, says that her speech is part of their products. it can affect it, but it is not part of.

@Meop79

Ай бұрын

@@thelordakira shrug, have you read her contract? I'm going to guess no. I suspect it will be tossed and then the question is how the appeal will go. This could go all the way to the supreme court as it is basically a novel question.

@thelordakira

Ай бұрын

@@Meop79 Disney already said that they fired her for political reasons. This case can make or break society. hope it ends well, for all of us.

Disney likes strong and independent women, as long as they say what they want them to say and do what they want them to do.

This is what happens when you get a corporate lawyer(s) that have done everything they can to avoid going into the courtroom, and are used to bullying opponents into settling are now having to go into the courtroom and actually practice law…..

I was born in 1960 and grew up with Disney, loved all the movies and t.v. shows. WTF happened? Walt would be ashamed! I know I am.

I really hate Disney. My kids love all thing Disney but not one dime of my money have gone to Disney in 4 years.

Disney is dead to me. I won’t be giving one single dime on my heart earned money to them.

Disney......"It's OK when we do it" !!!

Disney: “we’re guilty, ok? But for these reasons get us out of it? No? Oh…”

I wonder if we can turn this into a class action lawsuit against Disney

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Sign me up. I want reparations for everything. This company has done to the LGB community through its support of eugenics.

Poor Disney, bullied like this by Gina, who's impeding their freedom of speech!

Biggest irony as pointed out by Clownfish TV, Disney owns national geographic, whose own historical reporting, corroborates and confirms Gina's statement about the holocaust.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

That's the problem... Gina shined a spotlight on what Disney and "The Message" are actually doing/trying to do. They didn't fire her for HER politics. They fired her for correctly revealing THEIR politics and agenda.

Oh man, Walt is spinning in his cryotube 😂

Disney needs to be made into an example

Explains why Disney has a vice grip on Hollywood actors 😅

The idea that anything produced by Disney in the last decade is art is laughable.

There's not a lot that's more amazing than watching a company try to deploy a strategy that ends up blowing up right in their face and does the exact opposite of what they intended. By going ON RECORD as saying what they said, and claiming what they claimed, then yes...they are saying without saying it that they do indeed espouse beliefs like Pascal's and will sponsor it and endorse it. The exact opposite of what they intended to accomplish. All they did was paint themselves into a corner. I'm here for it.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they didn't fire Gina for revealing her politics... they fired her for revealing THEIR agenda.

Discovery please! Discovery please! Discovery please! Discovery please! Discovery please! 🙂

@gokaury

Ай бұрын

If Elon weren't involved in this, then I would fully expect it to be settled out of court. But I think Elon is in it till the end.

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

@@gokaury Certainly agree. For him it is the principle. I really do expect this to go to trial unless Disney offers Gina soo much money she can't refuse and other consessions...in exchange for a non disclosure agreement.

Just noticed the judges name on the court document was Sherilyn "Peace" Garnett...now that's apropos! Hope everyone has a great day or night.....

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

Peace Garnett was appointed to the bench by Biden. Disney could not have hoped to get a better judge for this litigation.

I may not be a top dollar Hollywood attorney, but I am qualified enough to say that whomever Disney hired to represent them in this case has a very dubious understanding of this type of litigation.

The disney lawyers are panicking.

@montarakid1943

Ай бұрын

If this motion is the best they could do then it would seem that they may, indeed, be in some trouble.

Disney of today have destroyed the company, it will take 100 years and multiple generations of good family values to even have a chance at getting back to where they were 20 years ago!

Boy Scout membership dropped from 1.97 million in 2019 to 762,000 this year.

@scoutmaster33

Ай бұрын

It’s not Boy Scouts it’s whatever scouts now….The Mormons kicked them to the curb over it as well.

@dolphinshooter2871

Ай бұрын

Because of their new gay policies my church dropped sponsoring them and pulled all our young men out. We just do it ourselves now. No gay crap. No woke crap. Just a bunch of men teaching correct principles and building a strong foundation for real manhood. The world is starving for that today. We hope to have the answer to this woke nonsense in a generation.

@goldman77700

Ай бұрын

@@scoutmaster33 Creature scouts

Maybe I am too slow (and I am definitely not an American), but why can't hating half a country be a message? I think Disney is consistent: they have "THE MESSAGE" (TM), they propagate it through their products, and they enforce compliance among the employees. It's like criticizing "Pravda" for bashing capitalism in good ol' Soviet times. Now, whether declaring half of the citizens of the US "nazi" is legal, I do not know.

@lbrad2001

Ай бұрын

oh it can be. But if Disney comes right out in court and admits to this, like they would have to in order to win this case, their stock will implode instantly. Plus most advertisers would run away from that type of open hostility.

@Grrymjo

Ай бұрын

@@lbrad2001 Thank you; I see your point. However, you implicitly presume that markets and advertisers are not adversarial against the conservatives and that Disney shareholders have priority over other "stakeholders". I hope your assumption is correct, because I am not so sure.

@MirandaSinistra

Ай бұрын

@Grrymjo I don't think a majority of the market really cares about this stuff, at the end of the day whether they agree with conservatives or not they still want the money from the conservative side. For the market and advertisers cash is still King. If they can get that cash without having to pretend they don't hate conservatives that might be the moment it's mask off. As for as the Disney shareholders, many are losing confidence in Iger's ability to hold his sinking ship together. It's all fine and dandy that he agreed with their politics but his company still has to appear successful. The more it appears to fail, the more people ask questions about why it's failing. And the more digging the public does the more exposed those 'other stakeholders' become to scrutiny.

@eddiebruv

Ай бұрын

Disney can have an opinion, sure. But they also want to dictate what their employee’s’ opinions are too. The point of the 1st A is that people can hold outrageous opinions and express them as they wish, as long as they don’t incite harm towards others, but it’s really a protection from government retribution, not necessarily from your employer. Gina might have had no case if every employee expressing ‘controversial’ opinions had been treated the same way as her.

@nyetzdyec3391

Ай бұрын

@@Grrymjo The problem wasn't Gina's politics. The problem was that Gina revealed what "THE MESSAGE" really is... and the results it might have... which was the entire, and *accurate* point of her tweet. (The one that VR reads at 5:09)

Great Vid Valliant - Well said!!!

So much of the argument is people saying she was not fired but her contract was not renewed , so is the actual evidence she was fired rather than her contract not renewed.

Wouldn’t Disney have to state where they stand on politics in order to set the standard. Go ahead Disney state what you believe we want you to say it out loud.

So Disney have admitted to political discrimination (illegal in California) on the record in their court filing. What happens if the court rules against their First Amendment claim?

Weird, weird, weird!

Great clip, VR, but wanted to say the intro music sounder seemed HOT! Former Sonar tech listening on headphones and had to drop volume for it. Thank you, VR!

“Before you speak, know that in Sparta, even a king’s messenger is held accountable for the words of his voice.” -Leonidas (300) The world (and Hollywood/Disney especially) seems to forget this “old school” mentality/philosophy.

I will not have anything to do with anything Disney & many former fans feel the same way as me. When Iger, Kennedy, Fiege and Filoni are gone from Disney then I will take another look at Disney

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Q: how do you know if a Disney movie is any good? A: if the studio either edited it multiple times or censored it altogether!

I was born in 1950, we watched every Disney Movie and everyone wanted to go to Disney Land. The CEO and Executive Management have destroyed the company. NOW EVERYONE IS DISGUSTED WITH THEM.

Since when do corporations have rights as an individual?

@parithon2397

Ай бұрын

Forever? A corporation is nothing more than a group of individuals; they have no less rights than a single individual. This in no way express my support of Disney.

@darthrevan1281

Ай бұрын

@@parithon2397 False. it started in 1886 with _Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Rail Road._ This isn't some tradition that has existed from time immemorial, it had a specific historical beginning. That ruling has since proven to be a deadly mistake for humanity, and the Earth's whole biosphere.

@parithon2397

Ай бұрын

@@darthrevan1281 That was a lawsuit that solidified in law what was already a reality. If people have rights, people who get together also have rights.

@darthrevan1281

Ай бұрын

@@parithon2397 The whole point of a corporation is to shield actual people from their individual liability and risk. Corporate "personhood" allows rich people to have their cake and eat it too by creating legally fictitious proxies that have rights, but not responsibility. Corporations themselves did not spring from the Aether eons ago, they were invented by men within the last few centuries. They can likewise be reformed or even uninvented at any time. Also, California Labor Code § 1101 clearly protects the political rights of actual humans against bullying by fake corporate "persons." The law itself can tell the difference, why can't you?

It is overreach of how much a company can dictate your speech as an individual.

Great video and points, Valiant! I’m especially glad you chose to reference and display what Pedro Pascal posted in relation to what Gina Carano posted. Love that contrast. The day Pascal posted that on Twitter was the day he joined my boycott list. The Rodent House may not have objected to it, but I did and he is now someone I will never again support, just like the Rodent House. It’s really a shame, and telling, that the House openly admits Carano’s position against treating groups of people disrespectfully is in direct opposition to their own values.

Chances this lawsuit goes to trial--zero. Disney will never allow opposing attorneys to have discovery access. They will write the big check.

@xisigma

Ай бұрын

What if plaintiff refuses to settle?

@darthrevan1281

Ай бұрын

@@xisigma Then strap in.

I've never been so right about turning down a job as I was when I refused to work for Disney. I dodged a huge bullet on that one.

Disney is losing it mentally

Latest from Bob Igar is that he has finally admitted that Disney is losing loads of money, but still doesn't equate it with DEI or it's woke culture. His solution is to make more DEI woke movies.

On top of this she became aware of her firing on social media before she was informed directly. Double Standards, others on this show have made more offensive statements but did not dismiss the other.

Disney almost said "The Message"

I hope Gina’s lawyer shows this in court.

Those Carano vs Pascal and Hamill tweets are what are ultimately going to doom Disney in court, not to mention this whole first amendment dismissal argument. I look forward to what happens. And I believe Elon won't settle out of court. He and Gina are in it for the long haul.

That entry music was so loud it hurts my ears Hate the peace I lost because of it. Damn

THE MEEEEESSAAAAAAGEEEE 😂😂

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

The message is they want to convert your Gay sons into your heterosexual daughters. This is a war crime.

Precisely!

Screw the noise!!!!!!

One of the California laws in question is probably California Labor Code § 1101. Ironically, it was written to strengthen and enforce an individual person's free speech rights---rights Disney proudly violated.

Walt would be pissed at the sith that now have taken control.

If this had not happened would Gina still be working there? Can you imagine what manner of slop they would be handing her in script form right about now?

F Disney, that's all you can say!

A faceless entity has human rights now? We truly are fkd!

Can’t watch Disney anymore

Should start collecting all the Twitter, Instagram, fb, tiktok, etc of actors, producers, writers, directors, etc. They are all Disney's speech now. What kind of inept lawyer would put forth this legal argument for opening a can of whoop a*** in the future. I hope this case goes through and not resolved outside the courts.

11:43 THE MESS😂AGE! (which they've denied they have!)

Reminder that Carano never even MENTIONED Democrats or Republicans. She told people to not act like Nazis, and the Democrats all immediately self-identified and sided with the Nazis

Their job is to create speech? Silly me, I thought their job was to entertain us. Well that clears up why whatever they produce now sucks. 😊

Companies shoukd be able to hire and fire whoever they want whenever they want, contracts not withstanding. It is my understanding that her contract was up and they chose not to extend it, so that caveat would not apply.

Very well said

Walt is turning over in his grave! He would hate what Disney has become!

We wouldn't have the Thomas Tank Engine memes with Carlins stand up if this were true. Total bullshit.

Disney is going to loose that suit so badly. muhahahahahahahahahah

Disney is asking for carte blanche right to discriminate at will.

Renegade makes a good case. If Disney is able to be exempt from the state law in question, every company is. If an employee expressing political views on their own time, outside of anything company related, can be seen as compromising the company's ability to expresd their own vontrary views, then any company could say likewise.

They were angry she went against their opinion. She was free to have her own opinion so long as her opinion was their opinion. But she didn't say anything that wasn't true. That post about people turning on the Jews was very relevant to modern day. Social media and current politics had started putting bullseyes on people of certain opinions. A double standard was developed where you could be harassed and mocked and attacked and it would be played down if you were a conservative, right leaning type. All she did was point it out. The truth hurts, get over it.

@paulboger3101

Ай бұрын

The House of Mouse is the only one allowed free speech, according to them. The rest of us aren't allowed to disagree.

@HugoSoup57

21 сағат бұрын

Oh please, if she was a Democrat, it still would be wrong. She compared conservatives to Jewish Holocaust victims. In Gina Carano’s case, she doesn’t deserve to have her opinion respected and Disney had every right to fire her. Not only that, they were totally justified in doing so. Freedom of speech only goes so far, get over it.

Where is Disney hiring these jokes of,lawyers??? Harvaard, Berkley????

@jeffrymilton1093

Ай бұрын

Birds of a feather, flock together. Maybe in social circles, this works, but certainly not in legal circles.