Based on feedback, I'm enabling monetization on this series and will donate monthly revenue from it to UNICEF with proof of the donation posted to my community tab.

@karicallegra8194

2 жыл бұрын

Shit like this is what makes me glad I started watching and telling people about your channel (well and the awesome content). Thanks for all the hard work you put in to provide us with solid entertainment while staying true to being a good human being. If you're ever near the D.C. area, stop by my bar and drinks are on me.

@not-a-theist8251

2 жыл бұрын

good call. Lets hope that this war will be over soon

@not-a-theist8251

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming People are trash. Sorry that you have to go through crap like that. You are doing great

@ScarabicEnterprises

2 жыл бұрын

It is good to tackle difficult events in such a way, you are doing the right thing and I hope more people can see that. Keep up the good work and thank you for helping spread awareness to the current conflict.

@ClockworkAnomaly

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the next one! I know its a longer battle (maybe 2 vids even, btw I started playing right before you released this), but the 3rd battle is a more like platoon-sized doorkickers so that'll be really good for you. Haven't had the courage to start the last one yet >_>

The crossroads objective on this map has actually been confirmed to be a place of an ambush yesterday with NLAW, it's crazy to think about it, and there's video footage of it which makes even crazier

@loverofsexification

2 жыл бұрын

Sauce?

@cossackscout7251

2 жыл бұрын

@@loverofsexification kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5qGxc-DhKTVpbA.html Ambush was just south of Zalissya on E95 near an Okko gas station. Exact location as the crossroads objective modeled in this mission. If you look further down on E95 via Google maps you will see a Shell gas station. Ingame that is the clump of buildings on the right side of the road north of the BlueForce starting position.

@dv6000islame

2 жыл бұрын

@@cossackscout7251 Thanks for sharing. That is nuts! I saw a snippet of that video the a few days back but never realized it was the same location as this CM map. Dang...

Other creators may have done videos on the Ukraine war, but I doubt that any of them demonized their own videos and start a fundraiser for Ukraine in their videos. Total respect for you for doing this.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@pquumm answered this question elsewhere but doing that ads taxes/KZread cut/and invites accusations. I'm actually bleeding subscribers by simply posting this as a fundraiser. The fundraiser route is much cleaner. I have and will continue to donate what I'm reasonably able to from content creator income, but I consider that a personal contribution.

@napstack9038

2 жыл бұрын

why not monetize, and send the funds made by ads to the fundraiser?

@Samuraid77

2 жыл бұрын

"Demonitized" lmfao I was like "where did he "demonize" his videos it's not his fault he may have made some videos where he played as Russia before?"

@Xepent

2 жыл бұрын

Demonized

It still a fictional conflict, since for all we can see the Russian military depicted in the game never actually existed, no night fighting capability, no air supremacy, no combined arms, no UAV usage, no nothing.

This was a great game before in the Combat Mission series and it just hits different now. Crazy how a "Hypothetical" scenario could just become Historic overnight

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty wild. Unfortunately it goes that way sometimes.

@jeffjensen8

2 жыл бұрын

They came up with the idea for the game back even before the the 2014 invasion and annexation of Crimea, which was apparently the catalyst for finally making the game

@lethaface9883

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffjensen8 No, it was very far into development already by the time the 2014 war broke out.

@jeffjensen8

2 жыл бұрын

@@lethaface9883 *"Sometime in 2009, we determined the setting for Combat Mission: Black Sea: a fictional future conflict between NATO, Ukraine, and Russia in the year 2017. A few years later, the details of this conflict were fleshed out and work began on creating the unique military formations and equipment that would participate in such a conflict. In the midst of development, the unthinkable happened, and conflict actually came to Ukraine during the spring of 2014."* You're right - they were mid-development, but it still sounds as if the actual conflict pushed them into overdrive to make / finish the game.

@user-tx3xy7lw6w

2 жыл бұрын

This was never "hypothetical" lmao. I love reading comments from people obviously American. So ignorant and so easily fooled by propaganda and lies. So willing to be deceived.

I was a little disappointed when I saw the update thumbnail - so I was pleasantly surprised to see you were being extremely mindful, not to mention fundraising for Ukraine. Nice job Pairs, you're killing it.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I'm sure it's still an imperfect approach, but it seemed even more inappropriate to ignore the conflict altogether on my platforms.

@DracoAvian

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming War is imperfect too. Not everyone has money to donate to the cause, but if they're here already, they can watch the video. You're offering another way for people to help. It is appreciated.

@chobai9996

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jinkis mate, it's not humourous at all how you're insinuating support for Russia by referring to the rebellion in Donetsk and Luhansk by making the assumption that military action by the Ukrainian government is equivalent to what the Russians are doing under Putin. It's two completely different situations - Ukraine was trying to take back territory that was overrun by rebels/terrorists funded by Russia to destabilise the country to allow for Russia to easily take over Crimea. Russia right now is literally invading for no just reasons and is doing it as a power play to gain resources and more territory. Supporting the Ukrainian military IS supporting the civilians, every euro, dollar, and whatever your currency spent on the Ukrainian military is one step closer to better protecting their countrymen. I find it rather disgusting you has to use your roundabout language to insinuate pro-Putin rhetoric in a devious manner

@chobai9996

2 жыл бұрын

@The Moody Juice Ukraine was never part of Russia, but part of the Soviet Union. Technically, RUSSIA was part of UKRAINE back in the Kievan Rus days when the people that lived in the Ukraine region controlled what eventually became Russia. So, YOU cope lmao. Also, if Russia was going to win it's certainly not showing it, losing thousands of vehicles and tens of thousands of equipment as well as thousands of dead soldiers doesn't really help

This game forgot the ukrainian tractors

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Slava Ukraine! 🚜

Interesting detail the planing of this game dates before the first invasion of Ukraine in 2014, you can actually find it somewhere Battlefront talking about it, on how they were designing the game long before it, and now years latter the full invasion of Ukraine it comes to fruition.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty wild. Dark...

@arjunamirzada3688

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it actually make me pretty terified that maybe people can see future it makes me wonder

@coryhoggatt7691

2 жыл бұрын

Not the first time either. The game that came before this one was based on a hypothetical conflict in Syria, well before that became a reality.

I see CPG, I click. I see CPG raising money for Ukraine, I click some more. You the real MVP

I was wonder when you were going to do another combat mission episode. Your videos on this game are the most enjoyable to view.

Man it is insane to think this 'scenario' for a simulator is actually going on....🇯🇲my heart goes out to all those currently fighting on the frontlines

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

Hell yeah pairs, I'm stoked that you're playing this. I won a yearly ladder on one of the communities dedicated to this game my first year playing this series (specifically the Battle for Normandy one). I got super absorbed in it and wanted to be the best opponent I could be, so I studied a lot of infantry doctrine manuals from WW2 and current day and applied those tactics in game. It's hard to watch more casual youtubers play this because of how technical and doctrinal you need to be to be successful. I love watching you play it because you understand tactics and communicate well to the viewer. I can also tell you're learning a lot about how to translate tactics to the game engine since your first video on CM. Excellent content, excellent teacher. Thanks bro

Respect for donating money made from the video Without seeing the details, I noticed you gave 'quick' move orders to the dismounted infantry in field of around 300 meters. It's a good idea to give pause orders of about 10-15 seconds very 40-50 meters so they won't get fatigued.

Always good to watch your videos due to your concise summaries in terms of planning and execution. The integration of your mounted and dismounted elements was very impressive given the avenues of approach along the E95 mobility corridor. The importance of good terrain analysis at the beginning of the mission can not be overstated in this case! It allows you to know when and where to achieve a "position of dominance" based on fire superiority and freedom of maneuver.

I'd be interested in seeing you take on the stand-alone scenario called "Ambush" and to learn how you approach convoy security and ambush response

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take a look. CM is.... Really hard haha. I still have a lot to learn about the sim. I have found that doctrinal concepts translate, though.

@aanders1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming Totally agree that Combat Mission is hard. I'm sure you're already aware but just in case. Usually Hapless is the best Combat Mission KZreadr. He has a ton of tutorial videos.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@aanders1990 I'm constantly referencing his videos while I play! haha

Thanks for no swearing in this vid. Really liked the playthrough, looked really realistic, although the current situation in Ukraine is just bizarre. Looking forward to more! One advice, in CM series vehicle crew and dismounts are often not wounded but instantly killed when there vehicle is hit, so I always try to not fight mounted to much. Thanks again for your effort!

@dv6000islame

2 жыл бұрын

I too am a fan of no swearing in tactical videos and games. But they are few and far between in the FPS games and vids nowadays---It's one of the reasons I support Ground Branch over other modern shooters. The focus of that game isn't on the realism of the gore and the language of war but on what's most fun to me--gun customization, tactics, teamwork and communication. I like that the AI doesn't cuss.

Never change, Pairs. You are the best tactical gaming channel, flat out. As much as I love Op Drewski and Karma, Drewski moved away from tactical games, and Karma sold his soul. Great video, even more respect to you.

I'm currently reading a fictional book titled "Battlefield: Ukraine" published in 2017 in which Ukraine is the flashpoint for a conflict that engulfs the world in a war.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Let's hope that remains fiction.

@CombatMedic00

2 жыл бұрын

I hope it remains in the pages of a book too.

Not sure if you've dipped your toe into CM mods yet, but HQS (high quality sounds - I believe the latest version is 5.0) is one I really have to recommend. It greatly improves the immersion and quality of all sounds, from penetrations, hits on specific materials (with specific weapon types), etc. The Few Good Men Mod warehouse is a great repository of mods too, ranging from new vehicle skins to infantry uniforms, etc. Worth a peak at the very least, I'd say. Keime's vehicle mods are pretty great, for instance. Finally, thanks for showing more CM and making it for a good cause.

Thanks for leading on this!

Always great to see some Combat Mission content

Moaaar Combat Mission and doctrine talk please! I love your presentation!

Glad to see you pick up this game. Wish it was under better circumstances

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

As do I. Still a joy to come back to CM after a break.

@TheFanoren

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming btw, i ran through this campaign a while back. Congrats on your first video where you beat a scenario with fewer losses than i did! (I lost like 20 guys and 4 vehicles)

Nicely explained and inspiring. Thx :)

Thank you for approaching this subject with the due respect that it deserves. Although some may say it's a bit insensitive, I disagree. I always wanted to know how a modern battle force vs modern battle force would play out, and info from the actual war is very sparse and incomplete as far as military tactics go (as it should for opsec). With you playing through this and explaining the tactics, I believe people can get a better idea of what's actually going on irl. Plus I was just starving for more CM:BS :P And also thank you for donating the money made from these videos to charity. Many people forget that the real losers in war are the innocents on both sides. May this conflict end soon, and peacefully.

Would love to see more videos like this! Maybe red dragon or steel division 2 but I get it if they're not realistic enough. Also thanks for showing this game, probably gonna pick it up

My first run of this was yesterday, and I tried to insert half of my BTRs via the road while the other half and tanks fired from hull down behind the embankment mid-field. We got slaughtered pretty bad because of bad timings on advances (I mad dashed), but I discovered a lump in the main road that allowed me to set up 3 BTRs and blind fire them forwards from pull-down, and I made *something* retreat before my advance. My new plan is essentially the same but better timing: roll tanks up the field, let them engage for a while, THEN do the insertion.

You continue to impress, Pairs

Your awesome CP

my respect for you has grown even stronger

@Spark-dl7hu

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

🌮🌮🤙

Interesting, informative content as always and well handled to address the very real conflict and the human suffering it is and will continue to cause. It's a shame the video cannot remain monetized with all revenue going to charity, but imagine there are at least a couple accounting hurdles to make that work.

Love that you're fundraising over monetisation. Also, your tone was very appropriate and respectful. Big respect, and Slava Ukraini!

Is there going to be any more of this content pairs?

*Now a historical title*

Pretty cool. This reminds of a game called Firefight that I’ve been trying to apply real world doctrine to so I can sharpen my skills.

Controlled pairs on CMBS. My day has been made

I noticed your vehicles were deployed in the oringal facing they were loaded in, you might have fixed this in the part you skip in the edit but you can press G to face a unit into any direction. great video!

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Great to know. Thanks! I still have a lot to learn about CM.

@Ekstrax

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming Np, i remember being relieved when i found the 'face' command in CM so i thought i'd share

Absolutely loved this video

Small thing to me, but maybe larger for others? But the "Kiev" pronunciations is the russian version of the naming. I got confused on the news when I heard "Keeeve" and saw it written as Kyiv so I looked it up. I guess Ukraine changed it in 2018. It is produced "Key-ve," as opposed to "key-ev" From the wiki: "KyivNotKiev is an online campaign started by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) together with the 15 member centre for strategic communications "StratCom Ukraine" on 2 October 2018. Its goal is to persuade English-language media and organisations to exclusively use Kyiv (derived from the Ukrainian language name Київ) instead of Kiev (derived from the Russian language name Киев) as the name of the Ukrainian capital."

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I had no clue.

@hypeflexington7081

2 жыл бұрын

@Controlled Pairs Gaming no problem! I didnt know either until this all happened!

The Ukrainian military in reality is much more capable than what is depicted in the game, as it was based on pre-2014 military, which had just about 16000 combat capable troops. I am glad you are rooting for Ukraine. I won't be participating in your fundraiser, because it is much quicker for me to help directly, even though I have to hide in the basement several times a day :) Ukraine will prevail!

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Hang tough, brother. Slava Ukraine!

@drk5orp-655

2 жыл бұрын

Are you hacking the russians or something?

@antonbatura8385

2 жыл бұрын

@@drk5orp-655 no, just donating and also helping physically where I can. Nothing major, but better than nothing.

@caldesigner8679

2 жыл бұрын

The Russian was portrayed in game as being next to the US Army in level of training. And the Ukrainian was portrayed as low quality throughout. It just turned out that the reality is the opposite. That said, it was the reality in 2014 when the game was just released.

@lethaface9883

2 жыл бұрын

@@Arth0715 That's true for most of scenario's / campaigns. However it's easy to edit scenario's to change those soft factors, for QBs you can set them yourself.

Can i pay you to sit down and teach me how to play this game as if i were a 5 year old? Im 32, but I for the life of me cannot learn the controls etc of the Combat Mission games. Ever since the Feb 2022 war kicked off, I've desperately wanted to play this game in particular and play as Ukraine!

Love these videos, your attention to detail along with the clear and concise thought process is something I havent seen anywhere else on KZread. huge props for demonetizing out of respect too, im getting one of the combat mission games through your nexus next paycheck to support. though.. im not sure how well ill do as i dont have your extensive doctrinal knowledge to inform my decisions it should be a fun excercise in critical thinking

It's a shame that you've abandoned this video series and Combat Mission games on your channel in general.

Huh. Interestingly, the maps in the game are modeled after real places. A few days ago I saw a comparison between this map and a place where Ukrainian infantry set up an ambush on a Russian convoy. Even the location of the gas station matched...

@JuergenGDB

2 жыл бұрын

You realize this game was created way before the Russian - Ukrainian conflict right. That being said some maps have been created via a 1-1 scale for historical effect.

Dreams dreams... but Ukraine is able to successfully fight only with monuments to the heroes of the Second World War

Have you ever heard of a tabletop game called crossfire? A very simple tabletop simulation game. This just reminded me of it.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not familiar with it. I'll have to check it out.

@virtuallyreal5849

2 жыл бұрын

It's a WWII Company level game, but if you prefer a more modern game, it is very easily adapted. Normally you have several squads in a platoon, and several platoons to a company, as well as HQ staff and weapons teams. In a modern game, you can use: (Two fireteams and a SL) x3 Two MG teams, one AT team and a SL A Platoon Leader and a Sergeant A Medic And a(n?) RTO or forward observer Look who I'm telling though... Anyway, it's a great game. If you can convince a friend to spend a couple hours playing a tactical board game, I highly recommend. If you don't care about the era it's definitely easier to get cheap models and supplies for WWII stuff.

Will you be doing a video restricting the fields? Currently fields cannot be used much because of the muddy terrain.

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great point. I'll talk it during terrain analysis on the next one.

@singulardesigns3d912

2 жыл бұрын

Just talk, no action? ;-)

@Coddykin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming If you wanted to you could edit the scenarios and change the terrain conditions to muddy forcing you to stay on hard ground unless you want your vehicles to get bogged. CM is very customizable like that.

ya bro i get this was hard to play given current times. but it's weird how this game was developed b4 the protests and civil war and how they actually had to take out a separatist faction is what i heard because of how close to reality it was.

The game needs an update: TB2 drones. Have drones and handheld ATMs made tanks obsolete?

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Obsolete? I don't think so. But they've changed a hell of a lot.

Good fundraiser

Keep it up.. Curious when your going to do a PBEM against a human opponent who knows what they are doing... That would be an interesting match... The AI is nothing compared to a skilled enemy commander...

Is there an adjustment to the Russian side to make the AI follow a strategy that is totally stupid? Just for realism.

Its gonna be simulator of my life

Didnt we have Armas Operation Flashpoint from 2000s that was close to today's objectives?

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like it was along those lines actually

You should do a campaign on this

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That's the plan

@tychokort

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming awesome ! Love your videos

CP, thanks for what you're doing to raise awareness and help support the Ukrainian people. It's horrible what the Ukraines are going through as well as the average Russian soldier who is just following orders and trying to stay alive. So sad. And now, some good old fashioned CM tips! :) At kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJObt5OiZJrVd9I.html your ATGM has a normal Target Arc. I assume you probably wanted them to have a Target Armor Arc (purple arc) so that they don't waste a missile at infantry. At kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJObt5OiZJrVd9I.html your infantry are walking upgright into a combat situation with the standard Move order. I'm guessing that you're probably doing this to conserve stamina. I think a better approach is to use either Hunt (with Hunt they'll crouch and be a little more responsive, going to to ground immediately if threatened) or my favorite when moving to contact over a long distance is with the Quick command (or rather multiple Quick commands interspersed with 10 to 15 second pauses). That allows them to move quickly so they're harder to hit if targeted--but they'll still respond if shot at--and at the pause order they'll take a knee and rest will also be able to get a lookaround and engage threats. You can effectively bound elements forward this way. Great job CP! I love how you explain solid battlefield tactics and your CM vids are my favorites. Keep it up.

Wait Im pretty sure there is a civ div video from an area incredibly similar to this.

@ControlledPairsGaming

Жыл бұрын

Like a similar location/scenario?

Hell yeahh CP

I think you have the best approach concerning what's going on in Ukraine to give donations directly to UNICEF. I've seen others give "humanitarian aid" to the Ukrainian Army and I've found that out of place.

They should include Javelin, NLAW and (soon to be) Panzerfaust 3 ambushes by infantry.

Why not monetise the video and send the money to UNICEF? Just out of curiosity

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Considered it. Incurs taxes, KZread cut, and opens the door to accusations that I'd rather not ward off.

Rather than demonitise could you have kept it monetised and donatated any earnings towards an aid charity? Or is it better to demonetise a sensitive subject?

@BoomerChris

2 жыл бұрын

Doh! Didn't see your pinned comment 🙈

more combat mission

CM videos are truly your top tier content, double down please

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! CM is extremely difficult, though I find it exceptionally rewarding.

@dv6000islame

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

hey, i have a lot of respect for your stand, and what you said in the beginning, so please dont take this thr wrong wy, but isnt demonetizing the video counter productive ? why not just take all the money made by the adds and add it to the fundraiser ?

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

See other comments on the subject

@ltournay

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming great move unfortunately i feel this money is gravely needed, war sucks

You into tabletop wargaming at all?

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely interested, can't say that I have much experience, though.

@Esotericism72

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming flames of war is good scenario based ww2 one that I would recommend. Its on the division scale I'd say. And the other I'd recommend for smaller unit tactics of maybe a company size at its largest is bolt action.

@Esotericism72

2 жыл бұрын

Also if you get into making terrain yourself for the battle maps you could have some amazingly detailed and cinematic shots. . . The only downside is it can eventually cost a lot of money especially if you buy the figures pre painted. I'd recommend painting them yourself it can be really relaxing. The most fun I had was painting an easy 8 for bolt action and creating mud to put on the tracks using coffee grinds and white glue.

@virtuallyreal5849

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlledPairsGaming Hey...! I was just writing a comment recommending Crossfire. One of the simplest and most intuitive games out there. Yet it's often called a simulation because of how many things are simulated by the way the initiative works. Great game for people getting into wargaming and just people who want an intuitive, fast, realistic experience. Edit: The one downside is you need a lot of dense terrain and cover. Which is also an upside because it means the maps are almost always beautiful and interesting.

@KermitTheGamer21

2 жыл бұрын

@Kain Bismarck Flames of War (and its modern counterpart, Team Yankee, which explores a WW3 scenario in 1985) is at the company level, though it does incorporate things like divisional support units.

Dude don't worry about the money or the "sensitive subject" all the mainstream media at capitalizing on it and you should too.

how fast do u wanna speak lol

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Faster.

If it's realistic no one will want to play the russians as their body armor and explosive tank armor are filled with cardboard! LOL!!!! But if we do get to play the russian side do we get to kill women and kids for bonus points? Oh and russian command won't supply us us for a month???? LOL!!!! Can't wait to put on some cardboard body armor! yeah i'm so tuff i don't need real body armor! LOL!!! JK This looks really good though! I can't believe this was made before the war how eerie!!!

1000th Like.

You could monetise the videos and donate that. Free money for donation.

Even the shit Russian forces in every wargame I've ever played are better than what the real thing turned out to be.

Slava Ukraine!

Second :D

I don’t find anything such horrible about this video, turn on monetisation. You can vote to on or ff in comment section to this comment

@qweasdoUAttgl5300

2 жыл бұрын

I find good decision to turn off demonisation

@qweasdoUAttgl5300

2 жыл бұрын

I find bad decision in turn off monetisation

Lol Ukraine is losing

@ControlledPairsGaming

2 ай бұрын

It's war. Everyone is losing.

Помогать детям это хорошо, но только украинским и только сейчас. 8 лет не волновали никого дети в ДНР и ЛНР. Кстати, 72 бригада убивала детей на Донбассе с 2014 года. В следующий раз, когда сша начнёт очередную войну, в ходе которой будет уничтожать мирное население(сопутствующий ущерб) и гражданскую инфраструктуру, я надеюсь Россия будет спонсировать и поддерживать противника сша оружием. А когда американские солдаты будут возвращаться в чёрных мешках, убитые русским оружием- справедливость восторжествует.

@kingdedede1066

Жыл бұрын

No such thing has happened

@m1serty

Жыл бұрын

@@kingdedede1066 you mean war between DPR/LPR vs Ukraine or any war US started?(Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, for example)

@kingdedede1066

Жыл бұрын

@@m1serty massacre in eastern Ukraine

@m1serty

Жыл бұрын

@@kingdedede1066 sure. Maybe not a massacre, but now there is no massacre too. Search Angels Alley in Donetsk. Children died of Ukrainian artillery shelling. Just if you say that Russian army kill children now in Ukraine-you have to confirm that Ukrainian army killed children in east. Anyway-it is good to help children. Doesn’t matter which ones. I just hope this money are not going to be spent on Ukr military.

@kingdedede1066

Жыл бұрын

@@m1serty I agree totally with your point that all children deserve to be saved, regardless of location.