War Expert Dismantles Joe Rogan’s Claim of a Palestinian Genocide
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@jiggajewjayАй бұрын
Finally someone telling it like it is
@malikzakir9224
Ай бұрын
Hamas is Mossad operatives. Problem, reaction, solution. This is chess not checkers... do you play.
@matthickman3492
Ай бұрын
Is that why they bomb humanitarian aid?
@ZakariaBouzid-ze8ig
Ай бұрын
Bombing hospital wow what a way to minimize casualty insane how peaple buy this
@whatwhat3432523
Ай бұрын
@@ZakariaBouzid-ze8igWhen the hospital is the headquarter of Hamas thats what happens. I have seen with my own eyes Hamas using ambulances for troop transport. Hamas only have one goal, as many civilians dead as possible. So far the amount of deaths isnt even close to the 39 000 actual civilians killed the first 3 weeks of operation freedom just in baghdad. Where they also tried to minimize the amount of civilian deaths, in a much larger area, where the enemy didnt put civilians in harms way.
@user-ow6zf9oy1n
Ай бұрын
Yes!!! Thank you for this.
@northwestgardener5076Ай бұрын
Hamas isn't exactly what we would call a good source of information.
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
Neither is the Israeli government
@pazi-
Ай бұрын
Israel is @@Truth.shall.pravil
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
@@pazi-I’m not gonna go into a long explanation about the lies, What about the accusations they made about 40 babies getting beheaded?
@ervingjohnson409
Ай бұрын
@Truth.shall.pravil that was proven but media covered it bc they suport hamas
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
what happened to Israeli spokesperson eylon levy? Why did he get suspended
@kuraido8001Ай бұрын
Israel isn't what we would call a good source of information.
@bluaska
Ай бұрын
Right, and Hamas is?
@SonOfWalhall
Ай бұрын
Too bad they own 90% of international media... Not easy lel
@kuraido8001
Ай бұрын
@@bluaska Hell nah
@jamesvuk9761
Ай бұрын
Jesus is King
@kuraido8001
Ай бұрын
@@jamesvuk9761 He never was the head of a state.
@violentpixelation548615 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for showing this part of this jre Episode! 🙌
@andrewspencer654620 күн бұрын
Justifying killing civilians is crazy
@zacharyphilbeck8650
15 күн бұрын
No ones justifying anything lmao but this is war and people die in war, including civilians
@andrewspencer6546
15 күн бұрын
@@zacharyphilbeck8650 "no one's justifying it" followed up immediately by a statement justifying is hilarious
@DON-lv2pd
15 күн бұрын
@@zacharyphilbeck8650do you realised whatchu saying?
@JakeyOhsogood
15 күн бұрын
He's mearly making an observation of the truth of the statistics from both sides and drawing a distinction between the two witihin the context of a specific conversation. If you ACTUALLY think he's justifying anything that's entirely your own fault and bias. You are failing to be objective or truthful.
@ido1234i
15 күн бұрын
He says that if Hamas started a war and Israel has the right and obligation to defeat hamas and restore balance in the middle east, unfortunately civilians would die during this war. If It still does not make sense then it's your problem.
@hero9402Ай бұрын
This guy is basically saying "yeah lets normalise it"
@anamneses28
Ай бұрын
He's not. He's a very logical and statistics focused person. Coleman Hughes.
@user-in2qx7cv3s
Ай бұрын
first time? this is a fairly standard urban conflict bud. the pearl clutching is the new thing being normalized. modern warfare has been around for 80 years, and general war since the dawn of man (and was exponentially more brutal).
@ethanguptill3417
Ай бұрын
@@user-in2qx7cv3sa human rights org I just googled puts the ratio of civilians to combatants to 90%. Irregardless of that though this isn’t just “regular urban combat” they have been shown to use things such as white phosphorus, and they have bombed civilians convoys. They are not just doing modern urban warfare
@user-in2qx7cv3s
Ай бұрын
@@ethanguptill3417 i didnt say it was a good thing. look at the ratios in the iraqi conflict, the saudi/yemen conflicts, the lebanese conflicts, the conflict in veitnam, hell the conflict between ireland and great britain. the sad reality is that when an insurgent force uses civilians as cover while launching attacks against a conventional military, especially when the civilians are supportive of and participating tacitly or actively in the causes of the insurgency, you are going to have HIGH civilian casualities. the line between civilian and combatant gets blurred heavily and is itself used as a convenient propaganda tool for an insurgent force. for example, they will use women and children to transport and bring combatants munitions and material support. in that moment by definition those "civilians" are acting as members of the insurgency. this is something that is forbidden to do within conventional militaries, but encouraged in these groups for the very reason that if those women and children are killed as a result of involving themselves in the war making, the insurgencies can use their death as propaganda to rally support globally and among the populace. they engage in shitty tactics endangering the very population that supports them so they can play the victim. they hide munitions and command in hospitals and schools. they fire weapons from the courtyards of mosques and churches. they locate their command structure in historical sights. so that every time their military structure is attacked, and the civilians they put in danger are killed, they win a point in a propaganda war. they hope to throw enough "innocent" bodies on the alter of their cause that their enemies eventually can't stomach any more killing. it is the most dispicable form of warfare and has been a go to for certain regions in modern times. THAT is the reality of modern urban warfare, and THAT is what causes high civilian casualties.
@mjt1517
Ай бұрын
He’s saying this is what normally happens. He’s not saying it should happen, just that it does.
@vedarovski4110Ай бұрын
"Very normal ratio "for middle east"." Why do we have another ratio for middle east?
@EcnalKcin
29 күн бұрын
It is normal to classify information by region. Did you not know that? Also, it is wrong from what I can tell. It is actually a very good ratio. Both the US and Russia had worse ratios for Iraq and Afghanistan respectively. Israel is actually doing better than average.
@muhammadabdulrafay4623
28 күн бұрын
Because they are Racists! Just say it Like it is.
@PIOVRAME
28 күн бұрын
@@muhammadabdulrafay4623stop playing the victim card, it doesn't work no more
@HPgraffitiUL
28 күн бұрын
because they fight in civilian clothing
@yoyepo91
28 күн бұрын
because they use their civilians as bullet sponges
@brett938222 күн бұрын
Crazy how many people in the comments dont know that most casualties in war are civilians, really shows how good we have it that we dont know this. War really is the worst thing on earth.
@Dynelegacy
20 күн бұрын
And how many people dont know the meaning of the word casualty XD
@tommoore2012
19 күн бұрын
Considering that 70% of Palestinians (at least from what I heard) support Hamas that by extension makes them part of the opposition against Israel and aren't on the side-lines unfairly caught up in the conflict.
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
war is what allows massive progress of civilization , it's built in humanity lol
@mansd5131
18 күн бұрын
@@tommoore2012Sooooo, by your logic, 7th of October is fine, because practically every citizen over the age of 18 should serve in IDF, or is in reserves, meaning that except for the 14 kids that were killed, all others were legit military targets.
@theexpert758
18 күн бұрын
@mansd5131 people are so dumb about war. No civilians should be killed. Jesus preaches peace not war.
@SgtRudySmithbRet24 күн бұрын
That's total BS.
@MikeW515Ай бұрын
Just 19.000 civilians were killed. A normal ratio... Nothing to see here. How sick this dude is, man.
@jackbale5846
Ай бұрын
Yes, so Israel should just stop the war and give more land to the people who vow to erase them, makes sense.
@es-rh8oo
Ай бұрын
Edit: sorry guys got the numbers mixed around. My apologies 13k soldiers to 19k civilians, 13:19, that's less than half. Half (1:2, 1 soldier for every 2 civilians) would be 13k soldiers killed, 26 THOUSAND civilians. That's 7k less. To maximise the speed of this war, to make it end faster, Israel would need to stop trying to be careful and start being reckless. That ratio would go above 1:2 and the war would end faster, hostages would likely be captured and reclaimed easier. However, as part of being reckless, it's likely that the IDF would end up accidentally killing hostages. They already have done and it is indeed tragic
@shaunpatryck
Ай бұрын
The world outside the civilized west is mostly chaotic
@BlameslessT-rex
Ай бұрын
@@shaunpatryck"civilized west"😂😂😂 look at what America has done to the middle east, or what Britain did to most of the world and try that one again. All govs are corrupt and not to be trusted
@davidjackson8546
Ай бұрын
@@es-rh8oo unless those 13k soldiers have been counted with the 19k civilians and the other 12 to 14k are incorrect and did not happen? which would then result with 6k or possibly 10k or so civilian casualties?
@mlmoreno75Ай бұрын
I like this guy
@MOR.LOV.AMSTERDAM24 күн бұрын
One of the dumbest guys Joe had on his podcast in ages
@Malthusia
21 күн бұрын
False. Stephen Meyer.
@ingwiafraujaz3126
21 күн бұрын
Nothing dumb about stating statistics. They are what they are. You just proved you have no comprehension skills. He didn't make any argument, just an observation.
@ffk2385
20 күн бұрын
Why?
@geraldhowse8597
20 күн бұрын
Because he's citing published figures, makes him dumb. So are you embarrassed?
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
what is your argument, he dumb you are smart?, lmao
@Jesus-jy6mx11 күн бұрын
Bro really said "this is normal"
@hamidonabdulaziz7473Ай бұрын
15,000 kids .......9,000 women ........ 7,000 missing under rubble ....... 100,000 injured ........
@mohemmadalbughdadi2584
29 күн бұрын
Thank you for putting the numbers by his saying hamas are a group of kids and women
@MaroulalaH
29 күн бұрын
And 1,5 billion muslim liars.
@cutebear1817
29 күн бұрын
Hamas makes these numbers up
@MaroulalaH
29 күн бұрын
What for imaginative abilities !
@GeoJr815
29 күн бұрын
Why do my replies keep disappearing but this garbage stays up?
@TheArchitect101Ай бұрын
Dude, you lost the argument when you said it’s normal in the Middle East - your complicit!
@alexh2097
29 күн бұрын
"For Urban Combat in the middle east it is a normal ratio" If you quote Something do it right - you are complicit!
@alexh2097
29 күн бұрын
People on the Internet are crazy 😂😂 thinking they know Shit and are so well informed 😂😂
@veridan4363
29 күн бұрын
It's not an "argument." It's an observation of historical trends. It's also not complicit to acknowledge that what has happened is continuing to happen. Again, that's merely an observation.
@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeister
29 күн бұрын
Just to put you into prespective - in Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the wordt stats speak about 300.000 dead, wounded, captured, MIA combatants (100.000 Soviets and 200.000 Afghan forces) with around 200.000 killed The civilian casualities are between 1.5 - 2 millions dead and 3 millions of wounded. Meaning that for each soldier dead 10 civilians died and for each missing, captured or wounded soldier 30 civilians were wounded. This gives us total ratio of 1:16.7 millitary to civilian casuality. Gaza is 1:1.46 - and this by using the Hamas source that is most likely overexadurated. (With most probable number being 30.000 deaths the ratio would be 1:1.3)
@TheMrmomo55
29 күн бұрын
@@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeisterfirst of all your numbers are wrong. That was also a War between two countries and not an anti terror Operation. Secondly the war was almost 40 years ago and lasted for 10 years. Third, almost the entire world condemned the soviet Union for this brutal war. We talk about war crimes in this context. Also since its about the soviets you can assume exaggerated numbers. Even wikipedia speaks of 800.000-2.000.000 a huge span, which indicates that there are no real statistics. Also the number of Afghani combatants killed varies vastly. You are cherrypicking statistics. But lastly and the most important part: israel as the occupying force has the moral obligation to protect civilian lifes. This is not a war between to countries like in Ukraine. Israel is using excessive force against civilians. At this rate there will be almost 5% of the hole gazan population dead in 1 year of war. Even compared to Faludja the civilian death toll is horrofic im Gaza. Also the civilian to Combatant ratio is one of the worst for the israeli military. Also War crimes dont look at numbers. Even the death of 10 civilians can be a war crime, in that regard, israel is responsible of countless war crimes. Sadly since israel is a western colony, there will never be a serious persecution.
@zmanjon120 күн бұрын
If they refused to leave 15 mile battle field by now, they are not civilians.
@Angel-vb5ot
20 күн бұрын
They never were.
@zontune6257
19 күн бұрын
@@Angel-vb5otChildren are not civilians?
@zontune6257
19 күн бұрын
How can u say that when gaza at this point is entirely a battle feild
@Angel-vb5ot
19 күн бұрын
@@zontune6257 According to Palestinians, all Israelis are enemy combatants, including infants. Listen to their speeches and interviews. They state, outright, there are no "innocents."
@Angel-vb5ot
19 күн бұрын
@@zontune6257 Also, anyone 13 or older can become a member of Hamas. They claim Israel puts Pal children in prison, but what they don't ever confess is that they've used those "children" as terrorists. There are no Pals in prison, just for being Pals.
@dustspark_20 күн бұрын
Hmm yes 14000 children massacred alone, all were hamas operatives though. But hey that's all normal.
@friedrichrubinstein2346
20 күн бұрын
The average age in Gaza is 18 years old. So statistically, every 2nd death will be a "child". We know from UN reports though that Hamas is using child soldiers as young as 11.
@shiraflax5876Ай бұрын
Thank you!!! That’s the part that people aren’t getting!
@iamAwesomo1994Ай бұрын
"a very normal ratio" seems so fucked up
@joshhoward1289
Ай бұрын
War is pretty. He’s speaking truth and facts.
@JayRSwan
Ай бұрын
War is very f*cked up. Hamas knew this before starting it with their maximum civilian casualty attack on Israel.
@elaswanymohamed4864
Ай бұрын
so, am from middle east, and based on wars "in middle east" i am telling u that he is a deceiver. u as well might be biased however, both of u r clueless and ignorant
@TheRealTieLUR
Ай бұрын
War is fucked
@SRTKOVA
Ай бұрын
@@elaswanymohamed4864oh your from the Middle East and don’t agree with someone saying Hamas is evil. Don’t come here telling anyone else that they’re biased
@teshkuti172218 күн бұрын
Please do not call this dude a war expert
@ChukwubuDike
11 күн бұрын
He didn't say he was, he's stating statistics. Anyone that can read and has a tea spoon of brain can understand this.
@teshkuti1722
11 күн бұрын
“War expert dismantled Joe Rogan claim” that is what the video says
@Ben-nf7it
11 күн бұрын
@@teshkuti1722 you new to the internet? There's this crazy thing called click bait, and you dove right on it
@teshkuti1722
11 күн бұрын
@@Ben-nf7it yes it might be click bait. I know Coleman is doing the Zionist propaganda
@monicahart307118 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@whatshappening3327Ай бұрын
I don't know if this is true but I heard someone say that Islam allows for lying in times of war.
@zane4575
Ай бұрын
Islam allows for lying any time, whether there's war or not.
@boynamesue7720
Ай бұрын
Not just times of war but, also, to spread Islam.
@Vanta4741
Ай бұрын
I think there's a deeper meaning that I don't understand? My knowledge as a human is also limited. wallahualam
@dkdkkdks5087
Ай бұрын
@@boynamesue7720Spreading Islam is part of the war. Mohammad and Allah are at war with the disbelievers. Never trust a Muslim when he talks about Islam! ALWAYS ask for the verses in the Quran or Hadith otherwise they might be lying / twisting the truth
@oussama-nl5tt
Ай бұрын
Oh yeah ?
@smaailsaad370913 күн бұрын
I hate it when people assume they know what's going on.
@Hetzerg22 күн бұрын
So basically according to this war expert, if the number of civilians killed is higher than the soldiers killed, it is normal.
@florin604
20 күн бұрын
In urban combat
@CocoCrispy_
20 күн бұрын
In Urban combat, plus the Gaza strip is one of the most densly populated spots on the planet. Plus civilians cant leave
@thejakefort
20 күн бұрын
He’s just stating wartime facts and it’s brutal but the numbers are the same as a lot of other similar events in history it’s still terrible tho
@thejakefort
20 күн бұрын
@@CocoCrispy_ which is horrible I totally get the fear is if they leave they’ll lose it forever but they’re protesting and trying to win the minds of Americans where Americans do not feel a loyalty to land I was just told I was white and I stole all the land. So Americans don’t rlly understand why they’re not leaving or why Egypt hasn’t opened the doors like we did Mexico
@tenxenu7730
20 күн бұрын
If you start a sentence with “it’s horrible” and “it’s tragic”, the subject of the sentence and the action being described is legitimatized and can be brushed off. Israeli Hasbara has evolved to zero effort now. It’s what happens when you can’t explain an occupation’s actions faster than it can be publicized.
@marcsimard2723Ай бұрын
Some men identify as women, some as war experts
@adampindell
29 күн бұрын
To be clear, Coleman Hughes has never identified himself as a "war expert". We all got played by this clickbait title.
@marcsimard2723
27 күн бұрын
@@adampindell well he’s wrong whatever his qualifications
@2BluntsLaterJr
26 күн бұрын
@@marcsimard2723and what’s he wrong about? I don’t know much about this war, enlighten me
@justagamer7791
26 күн бұрын
@@2BluntsLaterJr because he didn't say that majority of those 19 000 civillians are women and children.
@brotbrotsen1100
26 күн бұрын
@@marcsimard2723He isn't wrong. Both America and Russia had a worse civilian to combatant ratio. And he is using numbers published by hamas, meaning the numbers are definitely inflated so the ratio is even lower in actuality.
@johanpfeifferАй бұрын
Some ppl like this guy understanding and saying exactly the truth
@ottoharcrow932711 күн бұрын
“Normal ratio”…… bruh
@Dee-sn5uh12 күн бұрын
Thank you sir for your truthful facts!
@caliconservative20Ай бұрын
Coleman is so grounded in truth.
@cherylcollette6736
Ай бұрын
Who's the black guy?
@shmuelrosenbluth9741
Ай бұрын
@@cherylcollette6736well, based on the fact that the "white guy" is Joe Rogan, I think the "back guy" is colman
@caliconservative20
Ай бұрын
@@cherylcollette6736 Coleman Hughes
@Decayed-ii5wl
Ай бұрын
@@shmuelrosenbluth9741the skill of deduction is slowly being lost by society.
@mehoward9711
Ай бұрын
@@Decayed-ii5wlyuh eye no mey dedukaychon es naght dat grait
@grammaurai6843Ай бұрын
They also count anyone under the age of 20 as "children," but males are 14 and up are allowed to participate in Hamas. If you look at numbers for ONLY 14 and under, less than 7% of casualties are children. In urban warfare that's a ridiculously low.
@nadaissa1969
Ай бұрын
Soo your saying on the 7th that most of those people above 14 are of military age , so now tell me the new numbers for the civilians if that's how you condone how things are. Just remember what's good for some should be good for others
@grammaurai6843
Ай бұрын
@@nadaissa1969 I'm saying that, since Hamas does not officially distinguish between "civilians" and "combatants" because Hamas is a terror organization and not a state militia, it's misleading to include all military-age males in the lists of civilian casualties. By that logic it's *always* a war crime to attack any terror organization because they're not technically state militias. Israel, however, does distinguish between uniformed military personnel, because, despite what some would like to believe, Israel has an officially recognized state militia rather than a terror organization. Therefore the *civilians* who were purposely targeted for r*pe, b-heading, evisceration, sanguination, and old-fashioned gunshot deaths were civilian homicides.
@ivangoran4461
Ай бұрын
Can`t wait to see people like you give some answers to God. It will be fun.
@jimbishop8667
Ай бұрын
@@ivangoran4461 When making a statement of such grave and macabre consequence it would seem important to say who among the commenters you are talking about!
@TrevJ91
Ай бұрын
Wait so all males 14 and up just automatically get lumped in with Hamas bcuz they’re at a certain age? Even tho just bcuz they’re 14 doesn’t mean they’re necessarily apart of Hamas? You really are shilling hard for the Zionists
@andyvonbourske640522 күн бұрын
being a veteran it enrages me when i hear bullshit like " Israel has the most moral military in the world ". the nerve they have to say such things.
@user-vy6gy6pw9m
18 күн бұрын
So how ,any civilians have you seen killed?
@sharonrubaszewski5584
18 күн бұрын
I totally agree with you. War is war
@jecs2123
17 күн бұрын
They go out of their way more than the United States or other militaries.
@jecs2123
17 күн бұрын
Well, if their neighbors would stop attacking them, there would not be all the deaths. But Hamas, Hezbolla, and other radical groups and countries never learn. Israel will defend itself.
@Iron-Lion-Zion
17 күн бұрын
Where did you fight, veteran?
@walshasson883116 күн бұрын
That boy has been paid well by Israel ..
@quicksilver2510Ай бұрын
The CCP also said that a few hundred protesters died in the Tiananmen square massacre, and yet the real figure is closer to 10,000. Using the enemies figures is ludicrous. It's even more pathetic when the White House does it.
@icebergsimpson2828
Ай бұрын
Exactly it blows my mind that so few people are pointing this out
@bambuco2
Ай бұрын
Well it's the only numbers that exist currently, there isn't exactly an independent investigation crew on site during any of the wars. It also doesn't mean the numbers aren't correct.
@cutebear1817
29 күн бұрын
Hamas is the one lying here
@iamtruth6056
29 күн бұрын
Do you guys still believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
@brolol529
29 күн бұрын
@@bambuco2"the only numbers that exist yet" these are made up numbers. Most likely there's no way to know the actual numbers because there is not enough tools in gaza to do that. Made up numbers are worse than not having any! If I told you right now there's "only" 1000 civilian deaths in Gaza, would it help? Now you have more numbers to work with
@Wolfenstein69924Ай бұрын
His name is Coleman Hughes and he does not refer to himself as a “war expert”.
@worsethanjoerogan8061
29 күн бұрын
Yeah I did a double take with that title. I agree with everything Coleman says in this video but he isn't a war expert
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
28 күн бұрын
Most of the people who pretend are of very little value. He truly uses his brain. That's all that matter.
@phenomcollege4188
28 күн бұрын
@@alexdarcydestsimon3767using his Brain? Are some of those 15,000 children killed militants? If he says 19,000 civilians have been killed, does it then mean that only 4,000 civilian women and men have been killed. This is not how to use your brain. Maybe he wants to be paid for propaganda. Reflect on his concluding statement and you will see his bias
@goldencalf5144
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, his formal title is I$rael War Crime Apologist.
@TheCaputalRa
28 күн бұрын
nevermind what he is he telling the truth
@bookwarmtee775019 күн бұрын
I love intelligent people. The explanations are clear and understandable.
@takieddinbalti695611 күн бұрын
Let‘s ignore the attempted mass starvation.
@nonombre7159Ай бұрын
Due to the overwhelming support hamas has among "palestinians" every male from 15 to 60 has the potential to be a soldier and a good portion of the women as well.
@nikkinik4188
Ай бұрын
Many Palestinians support hamas & don't value life. Many have been fed lies their entire lives; they obviously don't know Jesus. Let's pray for ALL people who will come, to come to the cross & put their faith alone in the blood atonement of Jesus the Messiah about 2k years ago. ❤✝️❤️
@longsilver1
Ай бұрын
Hamas doesn’t have soldiers… they have terrorists
@switkaren
Ай бұрын
They are taught to hate and fight israel from the cradle
@user-hc8ki1rl4t
Ай бұрын
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@asdfgtrxcvhjkzxs3ek
Ай бұрын
Damnn evil knows no Limits
@bigyella12122 күн бұрын
Well said 👏
@sanjaybhatikar12 күн бұрын
IDF is the only force that has to reveal battle plans before going into battle to save civilians.
@Adam-uk5ukАй бұрын
If you can't believe Hamas then...
@user-de6qh9hg2d
Ай бұрын
Lol
@jamieabbott6728
Ай бұрын
There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.
@jamieabbott6728
Ай бұрын
There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.
@omarsaeznavarrete9253
Ай бұрын
when it was the PLO it use to be the same they use do the same ways ...but many dont know...
@Adam-uk5uk
Ай бұрын
@@omarsaeznavarrete9253 PLO , Hamas, Isis, Al Qaeda... They are all the same. They just split the names so it harder to point a finger at whom to blame for whatever atrocity is committed at the time
@jokkt6313Ай бұрын
People have a bad habit of misusing words, thankfully he explain it simple enough for people
@MrStivi198113 күн бұрын
Well said bro!
@howardhautville420816 күн бұрын
Spot on
@jasonpurnell4118Ай бұрын
Half of those civilians would be hamas
@abzmalik8197
Ай бұрын
No half of the civilians are children
@jasonpurnell4118Ай бұрын
Joe believing hamas 😆
@dkdkkdks5087
Ай бұрын
yeah. I was like wtf is Joe retrded
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
@@dkdkkdks5087y'all believe the idf?
@haiderameer9473
Ай бұрын
@@dkdkkdks5087except Israel themselves came to a very similar casualty count as the Gaza Health ministry so the number is in the 32k range. Not to mention the US believes the number is indeed higher than reported so if anything there’s more reason for us to believe the death toll than disregard it.
@DJ15EXY20 күн бұрын
Good point.
@Monkey_PNut21 күн бұрын
Well said
@Joherandez-jz4jnАй бұрын
I have seen the videos where Hamas soldiers are just wearing plain civilian clothes, that way they can claim that Israel is killing civilians.
@billtmarchi4320
Ай бұрын
My theory is that the difference between member of hamas versus palestinian civilian is: rocket laucher pointed up os hamas, rocket launched pointed down is palestinian civilian. It's just that 30 seconds when firing rocket launcher that they are hamas.
@jacksnakejames9570
Ай бұрын
And I'm SOOOO sure they don't do that on the other side. SMH
@bobsmith6544
Ай бұрын
@@jacksnakejames9570 r u ok?
@christopherpakney8542
Ай бұрын
The Jews fighting against Germany in the 1930s wore civilian clothes as well.
@yazanmk7660
Ай бұрын
And how did u knew that they are wearing civilian clothes and not civilians ?🤔
@shlogoffАй бұрын
Israel send soldiers in harms way, alerts the enemy in advance, provides supplies, and all to minimize civilian casualties.
@Just_logic
Ай бұрын
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. No one is buying this crap
@shlogoff
Ай бұрын
@@Just_logic nope, it's true. Israel has complete air superiority. They could achieve complete victory in a matter of days by air alone without risking a single soldier. But that will be catastrophic for the civilians, with far more collateral damage than what happened so far. That's why they send in ground troops.
@lorddiethorn
Ай бұрын
@@Just_logicpeople who put just logic don’t understand the words isral also has field weapons that could destroy everything in the matter of hours
@mariereddy4259
Ай бұрын
One word: SICKO.
@shlogoff
Ай бұрын
@@e_jesus get your facts straight. Israel has sent 375,000 tons of humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians since the Hamas terror attack.
@KMDECL11 күн бұрын
Imagine attacking the only entity fighting against oppression. Disgusting
@jdt193520 күн бұрын
Well said sir.
@user-zq7vb8xo4qАй бұрын
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!!!
@delenehuntington4192Ай бұрын
There's never been a war where the loser refuses to surrender, but insists the other side stops fighting.
@TheDenizxo
Ай бұрын
Yes we saw this in Afghanistan 😢
@sunseeker9581
Ай бұрын
You never heard of a ceasefire?
@sunseeker9581
Ай бұрын
Vietnam. Ukraine Russia. Get a history lesson
@erinjh89
Ай бұрын
People say anything just to talk!!! 😂😂
@YG-kk4ey
Ай бұрын
@@sunseeker9581not when they were the ones who started the war.
@ronbenvenisti827120 күн бұрын
It's about time someone puts the facts on the table.
@rock411518 күн бұрын
Joe, I’m starting to watch you It’s good that you talk to young men like this gentleman
@subhanmars3330Ай бұрын
13.000 civillians killed in Gaza this dude: it's fine in middle east. damn bro, how cold your heart could be.
@aliaqeelabbasi393
29 күн бұрын
19.000 civilians*
@subhanmars3330
29 күн бұрын
@@aliaqeelabbasi393 thats even worse
@hmswarspite3233
29 күн бұрын
Not what he said, all he said is it was nothing out of the ordinary for urban combat
@SodaBoppins
29 күн бұрын
Never heard of desert storm or the 2 battles for fallujah?
@zam50
29 күн бұрын
Don't twist peoples words
@eld910214 күн бұрын
Rather than minimize.... You can just put a STOP :)
@ahmedshah388419 күн бұрын
19,000 is still alot of people! and Human rights organizations say the number is over 40k..
@johnwhite4960Ай бұрын
He didn't debunk shit, he gave us his opinion.
@ytprv1890
Ай бұрын
He did debunk it
@StarrDust0
Ай бұрын
He's an expert on war...nuff said.
@peterpeplinski9923
Ай бұрын
Who is he
@AdeebHamad
Ай бұрын
@johnwick5350 So what makes him an expert on war? He have a PhD or something?
@AdeebHamad
Ай бұрын
@ytprv1890 how??
@isaacepstein897118 күн бұрын
logic. what a concept
@ShawnMosher16 күн бұрын
First Casualty of war is the truth.
@Mountainman2468Ай бұрын
At last. Common sense and truth
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
How do you verify that it is? Do you live there?
@lamborlambor6730
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299How about you verify your own claims?
@chy4919
Ай бұрын
@@lamborlambor6730 i mean they bombed the aid workers 3 times either knowingly or thinking they were hamas...
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
@@lamborlambor6730 what do I have to verify lol, its not like I’m the one talking with so much confidence about what’s happening with zero clue.
@MichaelShinosky
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 Verify your claim of "zero clue".
@IkeelechiogbaАй бұрын
What an honest analysis. People who speak the truth always have this shalom all on their face. Why would I accept Hamas data and question Israel's data? Thanks for speaking and standing in the fact.
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
Maybe cuz Israel doesn't recognize the difference between terrorist names and a callender?
@md11b6423 күн бұрын
What episode is this?
@LaminarSound21 күн бұрын
Hughes is one of the few voices of reason speaking on this subject.
@ariesmarsexpress24 күн бұрын
There are 110,000 civilian casualties which is completely separate. That is both dead and wounded people who are not combatants.
@CriticalSanchez
13 күн бұрын
They refused to leave and accepted to die as martyr to protect Hamas.
@ariesmarsexpress
13 күн бұрын
@@CriticalSanchez From the world's perspective, that will make very little difference over the next 100 years for Israel. They are not coming back from this. Before, a couple of countries in the middle east didn't want them to exist, now an entire world understands why.
@user-bv1ni6kc8sАй бұрын
Joe showing his true colors .
@Just_logic
Ай бұрын
JOE IS SHOWING RET OF THE WORLD COLOR
@michaelvincken6018
Ай бұрын
In the political maze, morals often fade as people blindly echo lies without grasping their meaning
@joeseppy949
Ай бұрын
True colors of questioning the TV? Get real. Another bot “user xxxxxx”.
@chrisviolette899120 күн бұрын
No body has talked about 1972 Olympics. Or 1979 hostages in Iran.
@siegfriedschmitz526019 күн бұрын
Absolutely right
@PRJ413Ай бұрын
Anyone who’s listened to this entire interview knows he didn’t dismantle nothing.
@calebwhite1999
Ай бұрын
He just did dismantle the narrative. Many people don't understand that the Gaza Health Ministry IS Hamas, so is not to be trusted in regards to jack shit.
@chitoyk8o554
Ай бұрын
Says the Jew….
@tzitzitzitzi1584
Ай бұрын
Didn't dismantle nothing means that he dismantled something. You used double negative 😂
@qwertzu1195
Ай бұрын
@@tzitzitzitzi1584 smartest hamas supporter
@despa7726
Ай бұрын
@@tzitzitzitzi1584Double negative is a linguistic feature of many languages. It is a dialectal feature of English as well.
@TUHANbukanorangARABАй бұрын
"HAMAS does not serve Palestinian people, HAMAS serves Iran. They are using Palestinian people as human Shield." *(Musab Hassan Yousef)*
@brandonsanders2767
Ай бұрын
They were elected to govern. Now that may be my force and gun point, but the Palestinians also tried to kill king Abdullah and they supported saddam Hussein which is why the Kuwaitis ended up kicking hundreds of thousands out of their country. Nobody is perfect sure but you can see the fundamentalist nature of the Palestinians or Syrians if you want to get technical.
@angelrasch
Ай бұрын
😶 so why they attack the shield instead of them??
@TUHANbukanorangARAB
Ай бұрын
@@angelrasch You know the militias wear daily clothing. They are civilians in Gaza Strip.
@sayeedakhtar8647
Ай бұрын
@@TUHANbukanorangARABI find it funny that aan army defending it's land is called militia but a nation invading it is called moral and upright army.
@sayeedakhtar8647
Ай бұрын
@@brandonsanders2767says a person whose nation goes around the world overthrowing their democratic elected government installing puppet, funding a terrorist organisation in order to cause chaos in peaceful country in order to loot their natural resources and then lecture the people of the nation who are resisting against him and call them terrorist. WESTERN HAVE NEVER REALLY GIVEN UP ON THEIR SUPERIORITY COMPLEX HAVE THEY.
@gregos123Ай бұрын
So well said 👍
@birdie584610 күн бұрын
palestinians will gladly NOT condemn hamas
@michelewasef12 күн бұрын
Tell me ur ignorant, without telling me ur ignorant:
@carlb770Ай бұрын
The questions about numbers and reality are obvious in an honest discussion
@davidheard723Ай бұрын
Wr had the same argument when fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The terrorists would hide civilians inside compounds, knowing we would drop a bomb or IDF and afterwards we were accused of killing civilians. Terrorists hide behind civilians and then blame the other side when people are killed. How does everyone ignore and forget a war we fought only up to a few years ago???
@miriamsaleh3913
28 күн бұрын
There were no terrorists in Iraq before the us invaded. They were created by the us in the first place. Even trump admits it.
@mochithepooh5368
28 күн бұрын
Because we knew how Israel operates and how loose they're. We know they deliberately wait until the potential target went home to their family before striking them. We know Israel used unguided munitions which caused a lot of collateral. We know Israel have been lazy in their intelligence gathering to minimize collateral. You probably never heard of this because western media refuse to cover the expose.😊
@urielpolak994919 күн бұрын
Good man. Finally some truth
@artv502812 күн бұрын
This guy is on point 🙏
@brendonw2154Ай бұрын
This is not a “war expert” His name is Coleman Hugh’s. He is a very smart guy with a great podcast and has some high levers education none of which has to do with war or geopolitics. I respect most of his opinions and what he has to say but stop with this clickbait BS. Edit: level. And to everyone thinking I’m commenting on Colmans claims I’m not. Just that the video simply misrepresents / lies about someone to smilingly push a narrative. I think what Coleman says has some truth to it but he’s not a “War Expert”.
@patrickweaver1105
Ай бұрын
Frankly I'm more likely to disbelieve a "war expert." Things are either true or not. Hamas lives and breathes propaganda. Appeals to authority are unconvincing to say the least.
@flyoverkid55
Ай бұрын
His last name is Hughes.
@brokengenius315
Ай бұрын
Well he is sitting in joe rogan podcast, he definately is more qualified than you and knows more than you on this matter soo 🤷♂️
@belevezero2279
Ай бұрын
@@brokengenius315 what makes you think that just because hes on Joes podcast that makes him more qualified than anyone else?
@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead
Ай бұрын
So you don't have a problem with data provided by an organization sympathetic to a terrorist group or see that data as a conflict of interest? Are you anti-Israel or just incredibly naive?
@matthewmccall6028Ай бұрын
First of all, he's not a war expert. Second, if you're saying killing 19,000 civilians to get 13,000 bad guys is a success, you're out of your mind.
@almac9203
Ай бұрын
War is ugly. There is always collateral damage particularly in urban environments.
@obenator
Ай бұрын
The ratio is waaaay lower than the average. As messed up as war is, compared to averages, this would have to be counted a success in some regard
@nickc.440
Ай бұрын
The IDF counts like every killed man as a military death. 13000 is likely much higher than it actually is.
@DatlTAE
Ай бұрын
Wait till you hear about americas ratio. 500k 2001-2020 150k were insurgents.
@nickc.440
Ай бұрын
@@sprickenville it’s likely not 13000 bad guys either. Those numbers basically assume no military aged male is innocent
@BigHorney61716 күн бұрын
post the rest of the clip where no claims were dismantled
@cody196423 күн бұрын
Dont think there could be a worse take than this
@Stealth_MustangАй бұрын
Key point “it’s Run by Hamas”
@peterang6912
Ай бұрын
nop, it's a fact that the numbers gave by Hamas are more correct then the numbers Israel gave in the past 40 years..
@XtazationАй бұрын
What they dont tell you is that the civilians are holding aks and rpgs
@FF-ou4rk
Ай бұрын
And their Goliath slings
@Xtazation
Ай бұрын
@@FF-ou4rk its sling of david
@Menisama
Ай бұрын
Remember the Nova party? The party that was raided by Hamas on October 7th? One of the terrorists was a 12 yo kid who shot people all over the place, one of the people that got shot by him told her story on the radio today.
@pabloxanaxbars4664
Ай бұрын
The jewish space lasers have melted your brain dog
@Malthusia
21 күн бұрын
@@pabloxanaxbars4664the what?? 💀💀💀
@BuckarooBonzai10 күн бұрын
Minimizing the pain of others like this is simply bad 👎.
@NOne7210 күн бұрын
Since when is Colman Hughes a war expert? He's a writer and podcaster
@parisvale256129 күн бұрын
Never seen a Hamas soldier with a gun on the news
@izzieb.2926
20 күн бұрын
Because the news doesn't show the whole story. We KNOW they have guns.
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
right, why would they show that hmm, only the kids and women right
@parisvale2561
19 күн бұрын
@@OpenWorldGamer- u telling me a Israel soldier would post themselves playing in playgrounds and smashing toys looting houses but not show off that footage?
@markleeben
18 күн бұрын
@@parisvale2561Bro's just making shit up lmao
@parisvale2561
18 күн бұрын
@@markleeben U must of missed it fella
@yehudacohen9151Ай бұрын
That's not normal for urban combat in the Middle East. It's exceptional.
@eliolaro4420
Ай бұрын
Any source that a urban war in the middle east hasn t that much civilians casualties
@avnerduchovni6675
Ай бұрын
Perhaps the opposite. The ratio is very low, thanks to Israel's caution and care for international opinion. Hey, have you ever compared the number of Palestinians killed by Israel throughout history to the number of them killed by Syria in 6 months?
@HarryLagman
Ай бұрын
Syria have killed more Muslims in 6 months than Israel has in 75 years
@ammanueltsegay1434
Ай бұрын
Tell me about Yemen 🇾🇪 how many people have been killed by Suni and Shia Muslims also how many yazidi have been killed?????
@TheRohitmukherjee
Ай бұрын
I agree with you it's exceptional...cause we know how Hamas likes to hide behind civilians... And they prefer Palestinian civilians dying just because that supports their narrative
@panzertank93822 күн бұрын
They even go as far as telling people where they're going to hit warning them not to go there
@DaWootzi18 күн бұрын
Finally someone who has brains
@DamageLLCАй бұрын
God bless Israel and the actual truth! 🤦
@fastone745
Ай бұрын
Look up what happened to the USS Liberty before asking god to bless the nation of evildoers
@mrno.7366
Ай бұрын
👍
@user-mc7gn2mz7sАй бұрын
He's RIGHT ! ! !
@Wiinnk17 күн бұрын
Definitions matter
@wormellglover167314 күн бұрын
That guy has NO FACTS! He’s basing everything on his OPINION….
@workslobАй бұрын
Correct sir a voice of reason. And let us never forget the 7th October. No country would put up with that.
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
70 years? October 6th ? October 5th?
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
Its funny how people are being pushed to feel bad about what they choose too feel bad about. You sound like an npc.
@workslob
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 not sure what an npc is?
@delano4526
Ай бұрын
@@youcefhemaidia2395Yeah 70 years of Arab terrorism
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 answer my point then y'all talking about 7th October like that doesn't happen every two months for 70+ years,idf soldiers holding families and children at gun point, randomly forcing people out of their houses beating them to a near death state if not killing the person, raping 16 year old girls,a 12 year old caught on alot of cameras, targeting anyone with a camera, attacking elderly and wemon inside mosks while praying in ramadan with flashbangs and tear gas,all this years before "khamas" even existed,so who you calling an npc
@brigoose7945Ай бұрын
Gaza = Hamas has murdered their own since 2002/2004. Noone cries for rhem
@TheLoyalpain
Ай бұрын
They only care about palestinian lives when they can point their finger at israel
@yonisbadar2129
Ай бұрын
You really don't know anything do you
@brigoose7945
Ай бұрын
@@yonisbadar2129 I remember it on the news all my life to now.
@leonig01
Ай бұрын
@@yonisbadar2129Tell it to the gays, suspected collaborants, PLO "palestinians" ... they all flew off roof tops in Gazah, killed by other "palestinians". Go learn some history, before showing your ignorance.
@yonisbadar2129
Ай бұрын
@brigoose7945 the fact that the gaza strip exists the way it is, is because of the colonial project from 1948 onwards.
@faisalalan863321 күн бұрын
Tyrone as a math expert 😂
@john-mf1qm20 күн бұрын
No innocent civilians in Gaza
@captainohcaptain9588Ай бұрын
Who runs Gaza health ministry 😂 HAMAS
@1.21Gigawatts_
Ай бұрын
They actually don't
@fazic759
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_who runs it then
@es-rh8oo
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_ tell me who runs it.
@Menisama
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_Gaza health ministry is a government ministry, who is the elected government of Gaza? Hamas. So Hamas is the government sole ruler but they are not in the health ministry?🤦🤦🤦
@stephenfgdl
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_ you know, whenever you give a rebutal give your reasons why....don't answer like a child!
@lproth17 күн бұрын
Thank you for breaking it down for civilians to understand. Now if only the educated
Пікірлер: 9 700
Finally someone telling it like it is
@malikzakir9224
Ай бұрын
Hamas is Mossad operatives. Problem, reaction, solution. This is chess not checkers... do you play.
@matthickman3492
Ай бұрын
Is that why they bomb humanitarian aid?
@ZakariaBouzid-ze8ig
Ай бұрын
Bombing hospital wow what a way to minimize casualty insane how peaple buy this
@whatwhat3432523
Ай бұрын
@@ZakariaBouzid-ze8igWhen the hospital is the headquarter of Hamas thats what happens. I have seen with my own eyes Hamas using ambulances for troop transport. Hamas only have one goal, as many civilians dead as possible. So far the amount of deaths isnt even close to the 39 000 actual civilians killed the first 3 weeks of operation freedom just in baghdad. Where they also tried to minimize the amount of civilian deaths, in a much larger area, where the enemy didnt put civilians in harms way.
@user-ow6zf9oy1n
Ай бұрын
Yes!!! Thank you for this.
Hamas isn't exactly what we would call a good source of information.
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
Neither is the Israeli government
@pazi-
Ай бұрын
Israel is @@Truth.shall.pravil
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
@@pazi-I’m not gonna go into a long explanation about the lies, What about the accusations they made about 40 babies getting beheaded?
@ervingjohnson409
Ай бұрын
@Truth.shall.pravil that was proven but media covered it bc they suport hamas
@Truth.shall.pravil
Ай бұрын
what happened to Israeli spokesperson eylon levy? Why did he get suspended
Israel isn't what we would call a good source of information.
@bluaska
Ай бұрын
Right, and Hamas is?
@SonOfWalhall
Ай бұрын
Too bad they own 90% of international media... Not easy lel
@kuraido8001
Ай бұрын
@@bluaska Hell nah
@jamesvuk9761
Ай бұрын
Jesus is King
@kuraido8001
Ай бұрын
@@jamesvuk9761 He never was the head of a state.
Thanks a lot for showing this part of this jre Episode! 🙌
Justifying killing civilians is crazy
@zacharyphilbeck8650
15 күн бұрын
No ones justifying anything lmao but this is war and people die in war, including civilians
@andrewspencer6546
15 күн бұрын
@@zacharyphilbeck8650 "no one's justifying it" followed up immediately by a statement justifying is hilarious
@DON-lv2pd
15 күн бұрын
@@zacharyphilbeck8650do you realised whatchu saying?
@JakeyOhsogood
15 күн бұрын
He's mearly making an observation of the truth of the statistics from both sides and drawing a distinction between the two witihin the context of a specific conversation. If you ACTUALLY think he's justifying anything that's entirely your own fault and bias. You are failing to be objective or truthful.
@ido1234i
15 күн бұрын
He says that if Hamas started a war and Israel has the right and obligation to defeat hamas and restore balance in the middle east, unfortunately civilians would die during this war. If It still does not make sense then it's your problem.
This guy is basically saying "yeah lets normalise it"
@anamneses28
Ай бұрын
He's not. He's a very logical and statistics focused person. Coleman Hughes.
@user-in2qx7cv3s
Ай бұрын
first time? this is a fairly standard urban conflict bud. the pearl clutching is the new thing being normalized. modern warfare has been around for 80 years, and general war since the dawn of man (and was exponentially more brutal).
@ethanguptill3417
Ай бұрын
@@user-in2qx7cv3sa human rights org I just googled puts the ratio of civilians to combatants to 90%. Irregardless of that though this isn’t just “regular urban combat” they have been shown to use things such as white phosphorus, and they have bombed civilians convoys. They are not just doing modern urban warfare
@user-in2qx7cv3s
Ай бұрын
@@ethanguptill3417 i didnt say it was a good thing. look at the ratios in the iraqi conflict, the saudi/yemen conflicts, the lebanese conflicts, the conflict in veitnam, hell the conflict between ireland and great britain. the sad reality is that when an insurgent force uses civilians as cover while launching attacks against a conventional military, especially when the civilians are supportive of and participating tacitly or actively in the causes of the insurgency, you are going to have HIGH civilian casualities. the line between civilian and combatant gets blurred heavily and is itself used as a convenient propaganda tool for an insurgent force. for example, they will use women and children to transport and bring combatants munitions and material support. in that moment by definition those "civilians" are acting as members of the insurgency. this is something that is forbidden to do within conventional militaries, but encouraged in these groups for the very reason that if those women and children are killed as a result of involving themselves in the war making, the insurgencies can use their death as propaganda to rally support globally and among the populace. they engage in shitty tactics endangering the very population that supports them so they can play the victim. they hide munitions and command in hospitals and schools. they fire weapons from the courtyards of mosques and churches. they locate their command structure in historical sights. so that every time their military structure is attacked, and the civilians they put in danger are killed, they win a point in a propaganda war. they hope to throw enough "innocent" bodies on the alter of their cause that their enemies eventually can't stomach any more killing. it is the most dispicable form of warfare and has been a go to for certain regions in modern times. THAT is the reality of modern urban warfare, and THAT is what causes high civilian casualties.
@mjt1517
Ай бұрын
He’s saying this is what normally happens. He’s not saying it should happen, just that it does.
"Very normal ratio "for middle east"." Why do we have another ratio for middle east?
@EcnalKcin
29 күн бұрын
It is normal to classify information by region. Did you not know that? Also, it is wrong from what I can tell. It is actually a very good ratio. Both the US and Russia had worse ratios for Iraq and Afghanistan respectively. Israel is actually doing better than average.
@muhammadabdulrafay4623
28 күн бұрын
Because they are Racists! Just say it Like it is.
@PIOVRAME
28 күн бұрын
@@muhammadabdulrafay4623stop playing the victim card, it doesn't work no more
@HPgraffitiUL
28 күн бұрын
because they fight in civilian clothing
@yoyepo91
28 күн бұрын
because they use their civilians as bullet sponges
Crazy how many people in the comments dont know that most casualties in war are civilians, really shows how good we have it that we dont know this. War really is the worst thing on earth.
@Dynelegacy
20 күн бұрын
And how many people dont know the meaning of the word casualty XD
@tommoore2012
19 күн бұрын
Considering that 70% of Palestinians (at least from what I heard) support Hamas that by extension makes them part of the opposition against Israel and aren't on the side-lines unfairly caught up in the conflict.
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
war is what allows massive progress of civilization , it's built in humanity lol
@mansd5131
18 күн бұрын
@@tommoore2012Sooooo, by your logic, 7th of October is fine, because practically every citizen over the age of 18 should serve in IDF, or is in reserves, meaning that except for the 14 kids that were killed, all others were legit military targets.
@theexpert758
18 күн бұрын
@mansd5131 people are so dumb about war. No civilians should be killed. Jesus preaches peace not war.
That's total BS.
Just 19.000 civilians were killed. A normal ratio... Nothing to see here. How sick this dude is, man.
@jackbale5846
Ай бұрын
Yes, so Israel should just stop the war and give more land to the people who vow to erase them, makes sense.
@es-rh8oo
Ай бұрын
Edit: sorry guys got the numbers mixed around. My apologies 13k soldiers to 19k civilians, 13:19, that's less than half. Half (1:2, 1 soldier for every 2 civilians) would be 13k soldiers killed, 26 THOUSAND civilians. That's 7k less. To maximise the speed of this war, to make it end faster, Israel would need to stop trying to be careful and start being reckless. That ratio would go above 1:2 and the war would end faster, hostages would likely be captured and reclaimed easier. However, as part of being reckless, it's likely that the IDF would end up accidentally killing hostages. They already have done and it is indeed tragic
@shaunpatryck
Ай бұрын
The world outside the civilized west is mostly chaotic
@BlameslessT-rex
Ай бұрын
@@shaunpatryck"civilized west"😂😂😂 look at what America has done to the middle east, or what Britain did to most of the world and try that one again. All govs are corrupt and not to be trusted
@davidjackson8546
Ай бұрын
@@es-rh8oo unless those 13k soldiers have been counted with the 19k civilians and the other 12 to 14k are incorrect and did not happen? which would then result with 6k or possibly 10k or so civilian casualties?
I like this guy
One of the dumbest guys Joe had on his podcast in ages
@Malthusia
21 күн бұрын
False. Stephen Meyer.
@ingwiafraujaz3126
21 күн бұрын
Nothing dumb about stating statistics. They are what they are. You just proved you have no comprehension skills. He didn't make any argument, just an observation.
@ffk2385
20 күн бұрын
Why?
@geraldhowse8597
20 күн бұрын
Because he's citing published figures, makes him dumb. So are you embarrassed?
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
what is your argument, he dumb you are smart?, lmao
Bro really said "this is normal"
15,000 kids .......9,000 women ........ 7,000 missing under rubble ....... 100,000 injured ........
@mohemmadalbughdadi2584
29 күн бұрын
Thank you for putting the numbers by his saying hamas are a group of kids and women
@MaroulalaH
29 күн бұрын
And 1,5 billion muslim liars.
@cutebear1817
29 күн бұрын
Hamas makes these numbers up
@MaroulalaH
29 күн бұрын
What for imaginative abilities !
@GeoJr815
29 күн бұрын
Why do my replies keep disappearing but this garbage stays up?
Dude, you lost the argument when you said it’s normal in the Middle East - your complicit!
@alexh2097
29 күн бұрын
"For Urban Combat in the middle east it is a normal ratio" If you quote Something do it right - you are complicit!
@alexh2097
29 күн бұрын
People on the Internet are crazy 😂😂 thinking they know Shit and are so well informed 😂😂
@veridan4363
29 күн бұрын
It's not an "argument." It's an observation of historical trends. It's also not complicit to acknowledge that what has happened is continuing to happen. Again, that's merely an observation.
@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeister
29 күн бұрын
Just to put you into prespective - in Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the wordt stats speak about 300.000 dead, wounded, captured, MIA combatants (100.000 Soviets and 200.000 Afghan forces) with around 200.000 killed The civilian casualities are between 1.5 - 2 millions dead and 3 millions of wounded. Meaning that for each soldier dead 10 civilians died and for each missing, captured or wounded soldier 30 civilians were wounded. This gives us total ratio of 1:16.7 millitary to civilian casuality. Gaza is 1:1.46 - and this by using the Hamas source that is most likely overexadurated. (With most probable number being 30.000 deaths the ratio would be 1:1.3)
@TheMrmomo55
29 күн бұрын
@@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeisterfirst of all your numbers are wrong. That was also a War between two countries and not an anti terror Operation. Secondly the war was almost 40 years ago and lasted for 10 years. Third, almost the entire world condemned the soviet Union for this brutal war. We talk about war crimes in this context. Also since its about the soviets you can assume exaggerated numbers. Even wikipedia speaks of 800.000-2.000.000 a huge span, which indicates that there are no real statistics. Also the number of Afghani combatants killed varies vastly. You are cherrypicking statistics. But lastly and the most important part: israel as the occupying force has the moral obligation to protect civilian lifes. This is not a war between to countries like in Ukraine. Israel is using excessive force against civilians. At this rate there will be almost 5% of the hole gazan population dead in 1 year of war. Even compared to Faludja the civilian death toll is horrofic im Gaza. Also the civilian to Combatant ratio is one of the worst for the israeli military. Also War crimes dont look at numbers. Even the death of 10 civilians can be a war crime, in that regard, israel is responsible of countless war crimes. Sadly since israel is a western colony, there will never be a serious persecution.
If they refused to leave 15 mile battle field by now, they are not civilians.
@Angel-vb5ot
20 күн бұрын
They never were.
@zontune6257
19 күн бұрын
@@Angel-vb5otChildren are not civilians?
@zontune6257
19 күн бұрын
How can u say that when gaza at this point is entirely a battle feild
@Angel-vb5ot
19 күн бұрын
@@zontune6257 According to Palestinians, all Israelis are enemy combatants, including infants. Listen to their speeches and interviews. They state, outright, there are no "innocents."
@Angel-vb5ot
19 күн бұрын
@@zontune6257 Also, anyone 13 or older can become a member of Hamas. They claim Israel puts Pal children in prison, but what they don't ever confess is that they've used those "children" as terrorists. There are no Pals in prison, just for being Pals.
Hmm yes 14000 children massacred alone, all were hamas operatives though. But hey that's all normal.
@friedrichrubinstein2346
20 күн бұрын
The average age in Gaza is 18 years old. So statistically, every 2nd death will be a "child". We know from UN reports though that Hamas is using child soldiers as young as 11.
Thank you!!! That’s the part that people aren’t getting!
"a very normal ratio" seems so fucked up
@joshhoward1289
Ай бұрын
War is pretty. He’s speaking truth and facts.
@JayRSwan
Ай бұрын
War is very f*cked up. Hamas knew this before starting it with their maximum civilian casualty attack on Israel.
@elaswanymohamed4864
Ай бұрын
so, am from middle east, and based on wars "in middle east" i am telling u that he is a deceiver. u as well might be biased however, both of u r clueless and ignorant
@TheRealTieLUR
Ай бұрын
War is fucked
@SRTKOVA
Ай бұрын
@@elaswanymohamed4864oh your from the Middle East and don’t agree with someone saying Hamas is evil. Don’t come here telling anyone else that they’re biased
Please do not call this dude a war expert
@ChukwubuDike
11 күн бұрын
He didn't say he was, he's stating statistics. Anyone that can read and has a tea spoon of brain can understand this.
@teshkuti1722
11 күн бұрын
“War expert dismantled Joe Rogan claim” that is what the video says
@Ben-nf7it
11 күн бұрын
@@teshkuti1722 you new to the internet? There's this crazy thing called click bait, and you dove right on it
@teshkuti1722
11 күн бұрын
@@Ben-nf7it yes it might be click bait. I know Coleman is doing the Zionist propaganda
Thank you!
I don't know if this is true but I heard someone say that Islam allows for lying in times of war.
@zane4575
Ай бұрын
Islam allows for lying any time, whether there's war or not.
@boynamesue7720
Ай бұрын
Not just times of war but, also, to spread Islam.
@Vanta4741
Ай бұрын
I think there's a deeper meaning that I don't understand? My knowledge as a human is also limited. wallahualam
@dkdkkdks5087
Ай бұрын
@@boynamesue7720Spreading Islam is part of the war. Mohammad and Allah are at war with the disbelievers. Never trust a Muslim when he talks about Islam! ALWAYS ask for the verses in the Quran or Hadith otherwise they might be lying / twisting the truth
@oussama-nl5tt
Ай бұрын
Oh yeah ?
I hate it when people assume they know what's going on.
So basically according to this war expert, if the number of civilians killed is higher than the soldiers killed, it is normal.
@florin604
20 күн бұрын
In urban combat
@CocoCrispy_
20 күн бұрын
In Urban combat, plus the Gaza strip is one of the most densly populated spots on the planet. Plus civilians cant leave
@thejakefort
20 күн бұрын
He’s just stating wartime facts and it’s brutal but the numbers are the same as a lot of other similar events in history it’s still terrible tho
@thejakefort
20 күн бұрын
@@CocoCrispy_ which is horrible I totally get the fear is if they leave they’ll lose it forever but they’re protesting and trying to win the minds of Americans where Americans do not feel a loyalty to land I was just told I was white and I stole all the land. So Americans don’t rlly understand why they’re not leaving or why Egypt hasn’t opened the doors like we did Mexico
@tenxenu7730
20 күн бұрын
If you start a sentence with “it’s horrible” and “it’s tragic”, the subject of the sentence and the action being described is legitimatized and can be brushed off. Israeli Hasbara has evolved to zero effort now. It’s what happens when you can’t explain an occupation’s actions faster than it can be publicized.
Some men identify as women, some as war experts
@adampindell
29 күн бұрын
To be clear, Coleman Hughes has never identified himself as a "war expert". We all got played by this clickbait title.
@marcsimard2723
27 күн бұрын
@@adampindell well he’s wrong whatever his qualifications
@2BluntsLaterJr
26 күн бұрын
@@marcsimard2723and what’s he wrong about? I don’t know much about this war, enlighten me
@justagamer7791
26 күн бұрын
@@2BluntsLaterJr because he didn't say that majority of those 19 000 civillians are women and children.
@brotbrotsen1100
26 күн бұрын
@@marcsimard2723He isn't wrong. Both America and Russia had a worse civilian to combatant ratio. And he is using numbers published by hamas, meaning the numbers are definitely inflated so the ratio is even lower in actuality.
Some ppl like this guy understanding and saying exactly the truth
“Normal ratio”…… bruh
Thank you sir for your truthful facts!
Coleman is so grounded in truth.
@cherylcollette6736
Ай бұрын
Who's the black guy?
@shmuelrosenbluth9741
Ай бұрын
@@cherylcollette6736well, based on the fact that the "white guy" is Joe Rogan, I think the "back guy" is colman
@caliconservative20
Ай бұрын
@@cherylcollette6736 Coleman Hughes
@Decayed-ii5wl
Ай бұрын
@@shmuelrosenbluth9741the skill of deduction is slowly being lost by society.
@mehoward9711
Ай бұрын
@@Decayed-ii5wlyuh eye no mey dedukaychon es naght dat grait
They also count anyone under the age of 20 as "children," but males are 14 and up are allowed to participate in Hamas. If you look at numbers for ONLY 14 and under, less than 7% of casualties are children. In urban warfare that's a ridiculously low.
@nadaissa1969
Ай бұрын
Soo your saying on the 7th that most of those people above 14 are of military age , so now tell me the new numbers for the civilians if that's how you condone how things are. Just remember what's good for some should be good for others
@grammaurai6843
Ай бұрын
@@nadaissa1969 I'm saying that, since Hamas does not officially distinguish between "civilians" and "combatants" because Hamas is a terror organization and not a state militia, it's misleading to include all military-age males in the lists of civilian casualties. By that logic it's *always* a war crime to attack any terror organization because they're not technically state militias. Israel, however, does distinguish between uniformed military personnel, because, despite what some would like to believe, Israel has an officially recognized state militia rather than a terror organization. Therefore the *civilians* who were purposely targeted for r*pe, b-heading, evisceration, sanguination, and old-fashioned gunshot deaths were civilian homicides.
@ivangoran4461
Ай бұрын
Can`t wait to see people like you give some answers to God. It will be fun.
@jimbishop8667
Ай бұрын
@@ivangoran4461 When making a statement of such grave and macabre consequence it would seem important to say who among the commenters you are talking about!
@TrevJ91
Ай бұрын
Wait so all males 14 and up just automatically get lumped in with Hamas bcuz they’re at a certain age? Even tho just bcuz they’re 14 doesn’t mean they’re necessarily apart of Hamas? You really are shilling hard for the Zionists
being a veteran it enrages me when i hear bullshit like " Israel has the most moral military in the world ". the nerve they have to say such things.
@user-vy6gy6pw9m
18 күн бұрын
So how ,any civilians have you seen killed?
@sharonrubaszewski5584
18 күн бұрын
I totally agree with you. War is war
@jecs2123
17 күн бұрын
They go out of their way more than the United States or other militaries.
@jecs2123
17 күн бұрын
Well, if their neighbors would stop attacking them, there would not be all the deaths. But Hamas, Hezbolla, and other radical groups and countries never learn. Israel will defend itself.
@Iron-Lion-Zion
17 күн бұрын
Where did you fight, veteran?
That boy has been paid well by Israel ..
The CCP also said that a few hundred protesters died in the Tiananmen square massacre, and yet the real figure is closer to 10,000. Using the enemies figures is ludicrous. It's even more pathetic when the White House does it.
@icebergsimpson2828
Ай бұрын
Exactly it blows my mind that so few people are pointing this out
@bambuco2
Ай бұрын
Well it's the only numbers that exist currently, there isn't exactly an independent investigation crew on site during any of the wars. It also doesn't mean the numbers aren't correct.
@cutebear1817
29 күн бұрын
Hamas is the one lying here
@iamtruth6056
29 күн бұрын
Do you guys still believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
@brolol529
29 күн бұрын
@@bambuco2"the only numbers that exist yet" these are made up numbers. Most likely there's no way to know the actual numbers because there is not enough tools in gaza to do that. Made up numbers are worse than not having any! If I told you right now there's "only" 1000 civilian deaths in Gaza, would it help? Now you have more numbers to work with
His name is Coleman Hughes and he does not refer to himself as a “war expert”.
@worsethanjoerogan8061
29 күн бұрын
Yeah I did a double take with that title. I agree with everything Coleman says in this video but he isn't a war expert
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
28 күн бұрын
Most of the people who pretend are of very little value. He truly uses his brain. That's all that matter.
@phenomcollege4188
28 күн бұрын
@@alexdarcydestsimon3767using his Brain? Are some of those 15,000 children killed militants? If he says 19,000 civilians have been killed, does it then mean that only 4,000 civilian women and men have been killed. This is not how to use your brain. Maybe he wants to be paid for propaganda. Reflect on his concluding statement and you will see his bias
@goldencalf5144
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, his formal title is I$rael War Crime Apologist.
@TheCaputalRa
28 күн бұрын
nevermind what he is he telling the truth
I love intelligent people. The explanations are clear and understandable.
Let‘s ignore the attempted mass starvation.
Due to the overwhelming support hamas has among "palestinians" every male from 15 to 60 has the potential to be a soldier and a good portion of the women as well.
@nikkinik4188
Ай бұрын
Many Palestinians support hamas & don't value life. Many have been fed lies their entire lives; they obviously don't know Jesus. Let's pray for ALL people who will come, to come to the cross & put their faith alone in the blood atonement of Jesus the Messiah about 2k years ago. ❤✝️❤️
@longsilver1
Ай бұрын
Hamas doesn’t have soldiers… they have terrorists
@switkaren
Ай бұрын
They are taught to hate and fight israel from the cradle
@user-hc8ki1rl4t
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@asdfgtrxcvhjkzxs3ek
Ай бұрын
Damnn evil knows no Limits
Well said 👏
IDF is the only force that has to reveal battle plans before going into battle to save civilians.
If you can't believe Hamas then...
@user-de6qh9hg2d
Ай бұрын
Lol
@jamieabbott6728
Ай бұрын
There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.
@jamieabbott6728
Ай бұрын
There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.
@omarsaeznavarrete9253
Ай бұрын
when it was the PLO it use to be the same they use do the same ways ...but many dont know...
@Adam-uk5uk
Ай бұрын
@@omarsaeznavarrete9253 PLO , Hamas, Isis, Al Qaeda... They are all the same. They just split the names so it harder to point a finger at whom to blame for whatever atrocity is committed at the time
People have a bad habit of misusing words, thankfully he explain it simple enough for people
Well said bro!
Spot on
Half of those civilians would be hamas
@abzmalik8197
Ай бұрын
No half of the civilians are children
Joe believing hamas 😆
@dkdkkdks5087
Ай бұрын
yeah. I was like wtf is Joe retrded
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
@@dkdkkdks5087y'all believe the idf?
@haiderameer9473
Ай бұрын
@@dkdkkdks5087except Israel themselves came to a very similar casualty count as the Gaza Health ministry so the number is in the 32k range. Not to mention the US believes the number is indeed higher than reported so if anything there’s more reason for us to believe the death toll than disregard it.
Good point.
Well said
I have seen the videos where Hamas soldiers are just wearing plain civilian clothes, that way they can claim that Israel is killing civilians.
@billtmarchi4320
Ай бұрын
My theory is that the difference between member of hamas versus palestinian civilian is: rocket laucher pointed up os hamas, rocket launched pointed down is palestinian civilian. It's just that 30 seconds when firing rocket launcher that they are hamas.
@jacksnakejames9570
Ай бұрын
And I'm SOOOO sure they don't do that on the other side. SMH
@bobsmith6544
Ай бұрын
@@jacksnakejames9570 r u ok?
@christopherpakney8542
Ай бұрын
The Jews fighting against Germany in the 1930s wore civilian clothes as well.
@yazanmk7660
Ай бұрын
And how did u knew that they are wearing civilian clothes and not civilians ?🤔
Israel send soldiers in harms way, alerts the enemy in advance, provides supplies, and all to minimize civilian casualties.
@Just_logic
Ай бұрын
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. No one is buying this crap
@shlogoff
Ай бұрын
@@Just_logic nope, it's true. Israel has complete air superiority. They could achieve complete victory in a matter of days by air alone without risking a single soldier. But that will be catastrophic for the civilians, with far more collateral damage than what happened so far. That's why they send in ground troops.
@lorddiethorn
Ай бұрын
@@Just_logicpeople who put just logic don’t understand the words isral also has field weapons that could destroy everything in the matter of hours
@mariereddy4259
Ай бұрын
One word: SICKO.
@shlogoff
Ай бұрын
@@e_jesus get your facts straight. Israel has sent 375,000 tons of humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians since the Hamas terror attack.
Imagine attacking the only entity fighting against oppression. Disgusting
Well said sir.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!!!
There's never been a war where the loser refuses to surrender, but insists the other side stops fighting.
@TheDenizxo
Ай бұрын
Yes we saw this in Afghanistan 😢
@sunseeker9581
Ай бұрын
You never heard of a ceasefire?
@sunseeker9581
Ай бұрын
Vietnam. Ukraine Russia. Get a history lesson
@erinjh89
Ай бұрын
People say anything just to talk!!! 😂😂
@YG-kk4ey
Ай бұрын
@@sunseeker9581not when they were the ones who started the war.
It's about time someone puts the facts on the table.
Joe, I’m starting to watch you It’s good that you talk to young men like this gentleman
13.000 civillians killed in Gaza this dude: it's fine in middle east. damn bro, how cold your heart could be.
@aliaqeelabbasi393
29 күн бұрын
19.000 civilians*
@subhanmars3330
29 күн бұрын
@@aliaqeelabbasi393 thats even worse
@hmswarspite3233
29 күн бұрын
Not what he said, all he said is it was nothing out of the ordinary for urban combat
@SodaBoppins
29 күн бұрын
Never heard of desert storm or the 2 battles for fallujah?
@zam50
29 күн бұрын
Don't twist peoples words
Rather than minimize.... You can just put a STOP :)
19,000 is still alot of people! and Human rights organizations say the number is over 40k..
He didn't debunk shit, he gave us his opinion.
@ytprv1890
Ай бұрын
He did debunk it
@StarrDust0
Ай бұрын
He's an expert on war...nuff said.
@peterpeplinski9923
Ай бұрын
Who is he
@AdeebHamad
Ай бұрын
@johnwick5350 So what makes him an expert on war? He have a PhD or something?
@AdeebHamad
Ай бұрын
@ytprv1890 how??
logic. what a concept
First Casualty of war is the truth.
At last. Common sense and truth
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
How do you verify that it is? Do you live there?
@lamborlambor6730
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299How about you verify your own claims?
@chy4919
Ай бұрын
@@lamborlambor6730 i mean they bombed the aid workers 3 times either knowingly or thinking they were hamas...
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
@@lamborlambor6730 what do I have to verify lol, its not like I’m the one talking with so much confidence about what’s happening with zero clue.
@MichaelShinosky
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 Verify your claim of "zero clue".
What an honest analysis. People who speak the truth always have this shalom all on their face. Why would I accept Hamas data and question Israel's data? Thanks for speaking and standing in the fact.
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
Maybe cuz Israel doesn't recognize the difference between terrorist names and a callender?
What episode is this?
Hughes is one of the few voices of reason speaking on this subject.
There are 110,000 civilian casualties which is completely separate. That is both dead and wounded people who are not combatants.
@CriticalSanchez
13 күн бұрын
They refused to leave and accepted to die as martyr to protect Hamas.
@ariesmarsexpress
13 күн бұрын
@@CriticalSanchez From the world's perspective, that will make very little difference over the next 100 years for Israel. They are not coming back from this. Before, a couple of countries in the middle east didn't want them to exist, now an entire world understands why.
Joe showing his true colors .
@Just_logic
Ай бұрын
JOE IS SHOWING RET OF THE WORLD COLOR
@michaelvincken6018
Ай бұрын
In the political maze, morals often fade as people blindly echo lies without grasping their meaning
@joeseppy949
Ай бұрын
True colors of questioning the TV? Get real. Another bot “user xxxxxx”.
No body has talked about 1972 Olympics. Or 1979 hostages in Iran.
Absolutely right
Anyone who’s listened to this entire interview knows he didn’t dismantle nothing.
@calebwhite1999
Ай бұрын
He just did dismantle the narrative. Many people don't understand that the Gaza Health Ministry IS Hamas, so is not to be trusted in regards to jack shit.
@chitoyk8o554
Ай бұрын
Says the Jew….
@tzitzitzitzi1584
Ай бұрын
Didn't dismantle nothing means that he dismantled something. You used double negative 😂
@qwertzu1195
Ай бұрын
@@tzitzitzitzi1584 smartest hamas supporter
@despa7726
Ай бұрын
@@tzitzitzitzi1584Double negative is a linguistic feature of many languages. It is a dialectal feature of English as well.
"HAMAS does not serve Palestinian people, HAMAS serves Iran. They are using Palestinian people as human Shield." *(Musab Hassan Yousef)*
@brandonsanders2767
Ай бұрын
They were elected to govern. Now that may be my force and gun point, but the Palestinians also tried to kill king Abdullah and they supported saddam Hussein which is why the Kuwaitis ended up kicking hundreds of thousands out of their country. Nobody is perfect sure but you can see the fundamentalist nature of the Palestinians or Syrians if you want to get technical.
@angelrasch
Ай бұрын
😶 so why they attack the shield instead of them??
@TUHANbukanorangARAB
Ай бұрын
@@angelrasch You know the militias wear daily clothing. They are civilians in Gaza Strip.
@sayeedakhtar8647
Ай бұрын
@@TUHANbukanorangARABI find it funny that aan army defending it's land is called militia but a nation invading it is called moral and upright army.
@sayeedakhtar8647
Ай бұрын
@@brandonsanders2767says a person whose nation goes around the world overthrowing their democratic elected government installing puppet, funding a terrorist organisation in order to cause chaos in peaceful country in order to loot their natural resources and then lecture the people of the nation who are resisting against him and call them terrorist. WESTERN HAVE NEVER REALLY GIVEN UP ON THEIR SUPERIORITY COMPLEX HAVE THEY.
So well said 👍
palestinians will gladly NOT condemn hamas
Tell me ur ignorant, without telling me ur ignorant:
The questions about numbers and reality are obvious in an honest discussion
Wr had the same argument when fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The terrorists would hide civilians inside compounds, knowing we would drop a bomb or IDF and afterwards we were accused of killing civilians. Terrorists hide behind civilians and then blame the other side when people are killed. How does everyone ignore and forget a war we fought only up to a few years ago???
@miriamsaleh3913
28 күн бұрын
There were no terrorists in Iraq before the us invaded. They were created by the us in the first place. Even trump admits it.
@mochithepooh5368
28 күн бұрын
Because we knew how Israel operates and how loose they're. We know they deliberately wait until the potential target went home to their family before striking them. We know Israel used unguided munitions which caused a lot of collateral. We know Israel have been lazy in their intelligence gathering to minimize collateral. You probably never heard of this because western media refuse to cover the expose.😊
Good man. Finally some truth
This guy is on point 🙏
This is not a “war expert” His name is Coleman Hugh’s. He is a very smart guy with a great podcast and has some high levers education none of which has to do with war or geopolitics. I respect most of his opinions and what he has to say but stop with this clickbait BS. Edit: level. And to everyone thinking I’m commenting on Colmans claims I’m not. Just that the video simply misrepresents / lies about someone to smilingly push a narrative. I think what Coleman says has some truth to it but he’s not a “War Expert”.
@patrickweaver1105
Ай бұрын
Frankly I'm more likely to disbelieve a "war expert." Things are either true or not. Hamas lives and breathes propaganda. Appeals to authority are unconvincing to say the least.
@flyoverkid55
Ай бұрын
His last name is Hughes.
@brokengenius315
Ай бұрын
Well he is sitting in joe rogan podcast, he definately is more qualified than you and knows more than you on this matter soo 🤷♂️
@belevezero2279
Ай бұрын
@@brokengenius315 what makes you think that just because hes on Joes podcast that makes him more qualified than anyone else?
@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead
Ай бұрын
So you don't have a problem with data provided by an organization sympathetic to a terrorist group or see that data as a conflict of interest? Are you anti-Israel or just incredibly naive?
First of all, he's not a war expert. Second, if you're saying killing 19,000 civilians to get 13,000 bad guys is a success, you're out of your mind.
@almac9203
Ай бұрын
War is ugly. There is always collateral damage particularly in urban environments.
@obenator
Ай бұрын
The ratio is waaaay lower than the average. As messed up as war is, compared to averages, this would have to be counted a success in some regard
@nickc.440
Ай бұрын
The IDF counts like every killed man as a military death. 13000 is likely much higher than it actually is.
@DatlTAE
Ай бұрын
Wait till you hear about americas ratio. 500k 2001-2020 150k were insurgents.
@nickc.440
Ай бұрын
@@sprickenville it’s likely not 13000 bad guys either. Those numbers basically assume no military aged male is innocent
post the rest of the clip where no claims were dismantled
Dont think there could be a worse take than this
Key point “it’s Run by Hamas”
@peterang6912
Ай бұрын
nop, it's a fact that the numbers gave by Hamas are more correct then the numbers Israel gave in the past 40 years..
What they dont tell you is that the civilians are holding aks and rpgs
@FF-ou4rk
Ай бұрын
And their Goliath slings
@Xtazation
Ай бұрын
@@FF-ou4rk its sling of david
@Menisama
Ай бұрын
Remember the Nova party? The party that was raided by Hamas on October 7th? One of the terrorists was a 12 yo kid who shot people all over the place, one of the people that got shot by him told her story on the radio today.
@pabloxanaxbars4664
Ай бұрын
The jewish space lasers have melted your brain dog
@Malthusia
21 күн бұрын
@@pabloxanaxbars4664the what?? 💀💀💀
Minimizing the pain of others like this is simply bad 👎.
Since when is Colman Hughes a war expert? He's a writer and podcaster
Never seen a Hamas soldier with a gun on the news
@izzieb.2926
20 күн бұрын
Because the news doesn't show the whole story. We KNOW they have guns.
@OpenWorldGamer-
19 күн бұрын
right, why would they show that hmm, only the kids and women right
@parisvale2561
19 күн бұрын
@@OpenWorldGamer- u telling me a Israel soldier would post themselves playing in playgrounds and smashing toys looting houses but not show off that footage?
@markleeben
18 күн бұрын
@@parisvale2561Bro's just making shit up lmao
@parisvale2561
18 күн бұрын
@@markleeben U must of missed it fella
That's not normal for urban combat in the Middle East. It's exceptional.
@eliolaro4420
Ай бұрын
Any source that a urban war in the middle east hasn t that much civilians casualties
@avnerduchovni6675
Ай бұрын
Perhaps the opposite. The ratio is very low, thanks to Israel's caution and care for international opinion. Hey, have you ever compared the number of Palestinians killed by Israel throughout history to the number of them killed by Syria in 6 months?
@HarryLagman
Ай бұрын
Syria have killed more Muslims in 6 months than Israel has in 75 years
@ammanueltsegay1434
Ай бұрын
Tell me about Yemen 🇾🇪 how many people have been killed by Suni and Shia Muslims also how many yazidi have been killed?????
@TheRohitmukherjee
Ай бұрын
I agree with you it's exceptional...cause we know how Hamas likes to hide behind civilians... And they prefer Palestinian civilians dying just because that supports their narrative
They even go as far as telling people where they're going to hit warning them not to go there
Finally someone who has brains
God bless Israel and the actual truth! 🤦
@fastone745
Ай бұрын
Look up what happened to the USS Liberty before asking god to bless the nation of evildoers
@mrno.7366
Ай бұрын
👍
He's RIGHT ! ! !
Definitions matter
That guy has NO FACTS! He’s basing everything on his OPINION….
Correct sir a voice of reason. And let us never forget the 7th October. No country would put up with that.
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
70 years? October 6th ? October 5th?
@qaisquraan5299
Ай бұрын
Its funny how people are being pushed to feel bad about what they choose too feel bad about. You sound like an npc.
@workslob
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 not sure what an npc is?
@delano4526
Ай бұрын
@@youcefhemaidia2395Yeah 70 years of Arab terrorism
@youcefhemaidia2395
Ай бұрын
@@qaisquraan5299 answer my point then y'all talking about 7th October like that doesn't happen every two months for 70+ years,idf soldiers holding families and children at gun point, randomly forcing people out of their houses beating them to a near death state if not killing the person, raping 16 year old girls,a 12 year old caught on alot of cameras, targeting anyone with a camera, attacking elderly and wemon inside mosks while praying in ramadan with flashbangs and tear gas,all this years before "khamas" even existed,so who you calling an npc
Gaza = Hamas has murdered their own since 2002/2004. Noone cries for rhem
@TheLoyalpain
Ай бұрын
They only care about palestinian lives when they can point their finger at israel
@yonisbadar2129
Ай бұрын
You really don't know anything do you
@brigoose7945
Ай бұрын
@@yonisbadar2129 I remember it on the news all my life to now.
@leonig01
Ай бұрын
@@yonisbadar2129Tell it to the gays, suspected collaborants, PLO "palestinians" ... they all flew off roof tops in Gazah, killed by other "palestinians". Go learn some history, before showing your ignorance.
@yonisbadar2129
Ай бұрын
@brigoose7945 the fact that the gaza strip exists the way it is, is because of the colonial project from 1948 onwards.
Tyrone as a math expert 😂
No innocent civilians in Gaza
Who runs Gaza health ministry 😂 HAMAS
@1.21Gigawatts_
Ай бұрын
They actually don't
@fazic759
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_who runs it then
@es-rh8oo
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_ tell me who runs it.
@Menisama
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_Gaza health ministry is a government ministry, who is the elected government of Gaza? Hamas. So Hamas is the government sole ruler but they are not in the health ministry?🤦🤦🤦
@stephenfgdl
Ай бұрын
@@1.21Gigawatts_ you know, whenever you give a rebutal give your reasons why....don't answer like a child!
Thank you for breaking it down for civilians to understand. Now if only the educated