great to see a chat where some opposing views are discussed positively

@jonevansauthor

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. I think we're outnumbered in the comments though. The Nimbys are all over it so it's like attending a town council planning meeting. 🤣😂

Great guest!!

This is one of the best interviews yall have ever done! Thanks for the great content. As a Tesla investor/ fan and lover of walking/ biking I am very conflicted with both modes of transportation. I don't think it is either just cars or urbanism. I think a healthy mix of both. When FSD is proven and scales, i believe cities will become safer for pedestrians, bikers, etc. Nevertheless, we should design our cities to make it more difficult, through hard infrastructure, for Human drivers to speed, driver irrationally, etc Both hard infrastructure and FSD will make our cities healthier and safer!

Kindness is always free the Highlander.😊

Good video guys ❤

We've created communities of interest, including employers, that are more physically distributed in terms of their homes. I play in several musical groups, all of which congregate at distances from home of 10 to 20 miles. That would remain true even if I managed to be able to work in walking distance from home. So much of my social life requires weekly travel in some sort of vehicle, with little likelihood of convenient mass transit. Now decent-range jet packs . . . .Hard problem. Whenever I do choose to walk in the SF Bay Area, I find myself wishing for either pedestrian bridges or tunnels/subways crossing the major roads. Waiting out the multiple traffic signals to cross large roads that cross each other becomes intolerable when walking.

Super interesting stuff guys! :)

Will my personal AV, deprived of any local parking spots, increase traffic by circling endlessly, waiting for me to finish my meal? Possible.

At Cedar Point Ohio.

OMG my wife and I almost got killed by bikes multiple times in Amsterdam until we learned to look for bikes before crossing streets!

Maybe you were thinking of Cedar Point? It opened in 1870 and is the second oldest operating amusement park in USA.

@jonevansauthor

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering that - only because my brother worked there once, not long after it opened :D

lol, I’m wondering if you are thinking of Cedar Point amusement park. 😊

Once the near absolute safety benefits of autonomous vehicles are well understood, insurers will price self driven vehicles off the roads.

Do you not have Park & Ride schemes in places like Newbury Port? Big car park, outskirts of town, you park, get a bus. Just like at an airport. If you're browsing shops and enjoying the waterfront you don't need to park. The park & ride is free parking, everything where you want people to park less, is priced to put off.

@strongtowns and @notjustbikes folk need to see how autonomous vehicles will help end the need to own one and should be the bridge to public transport acceptance. FSD should be called "Virtual Rail Mode"

@lws7394

Ай бұрын

LMAO. You really believe it... Ever heard of the Jevons Paradox : 'When technological progress increases the efficiency with which a resource is used (reducing the amount necessary for any one use), but the falling cost of use induces increases in demand enough that resource use is increased, rather than reduced ' Whether electric or autonomous, cars occupy as much space on the road and on parking facilities as normal cars. How much ? You can search for the Munster Road Space photo ! Car dependency needs to be removed, Single zoning needs to be removed. The 30% of car trips in US

@Justwatchpro

Ай бұрын

Go for it then. Try to convince a society with car brain to paradigm shift into the new urbanist reality. It's already bad enough that trucks are a status symbol. I'm at least trying to make make a middle service that will convince the public to relinquish car ownership, such as Music streaming services replacing buying songs. @@lws7394

Cedar Point

Wait, are you guys getting orange-pilled? Have you seen the light? New Strong Towns evangelists?!

@Drew-nv1op

4 ай бұрын

And as a Tesla investor, myself, I say we need more e-bikes and fewer Cybertrucks. As for “limited areas” or separation of modes, see Barcelona’s superillas or the Dutch concept of ontvlechten.

Do you understand making the autonomous car slowing down due to more pedestrians ect will also create more hazard. It will cause road rage. We will NEVER go full autonomous unless we have unconstitutional governmental overreach.

I mostly agree with the point of view of Jeff and see the autonomous individual car as big a threath to our cities as the car was in the 20th century (hopefully will be replaced by autonomous bus and minibus to solve the geometric problem of our cities). I Just do not agree with stop sign as a good measure. This is also imo oversignalized and the same could be made with yield sign like in europe.

How did you not talk about the boring tunnels/ Vegas loop?! Question for him. Has he been to India to see what wakability does but also no restrictions on businesses. It's a small business every few steps and so convenient. Oh no, you shaved!!

England has famously terrible food… No, I’m not paying $1200 for lunch in London.

@jonevansauthor

4 ай бұрын

In this, sir, you are a massively ignorant muppet who knows nothing about England, or London. This is like me saying the US has terrible food because of McDonalds and bread with massive amounts of sugar in it. What I do, is simply go to better restaurants, and check reviews. Works in every country I've ever been to. I'm with you on not paying $1,200 to visit any city just to have lunch, but I figure he wasn't really serious about the lunch bit, just looking forward to being able to travel that far within a day.

To bad he doesn't get how autonomous vehicles will work. He is lost in his romantic idea of "green" walkable city, and hatred of cars. He should be thinking about making mobility sustainable, not restrictive but sustainable in the future. Don't limit mobility. Mobility brings people more choices in work and experiences, and increases GDP. All good things. Good job hosts bringing some logic into his world.

@jonevansauthor

4 ай бұрын

Walkable cities are sustainable mobility.

@AMacProOwner

4 ай бұрын

What is it Speck didn't understand about autonomous vehicles?

Guest is closed to reality... Had to stop watching him. Thanks for the video...

Screw walkable I mile cities if that is utopia for some otherwise for the rest of us kick rocks and leave us alone

@jonevansauthor

4 ай бұрын

'Murica! Right? Who lives in a city and wants to be able to walk everywhere and not have to own a car? People are so weird, aren't they? I don't know why they aren't keen on poverty, heart problems, lung problems, noise and stench. They must be crazy!